Nihilist roll call

Who is the most nihilist superhero and why is it Moon Knight?

See Nihilist posters are unequivocally the worst on this board and I think I know why, its just like what people say about pol how people memed about Nazis so Nazis eventually got the idea it was the place for them, round here people meme about stirner and so on and the idiots don't see that they're making fun of it, so nihilists start taking over.

I only ever read a little moon night, mostly his run during Civil War.

I wasn't very impressed with him, what else can you tell?

lack of any reason to act implies you to stop responding, faggot

sounds like suicide to me

Faggot, I can't talk about coconuts without invoking the concept of coconuts. So that means they don't exist?

You have to read the part of his run that came before that, 'The Bottom'. That was great.

Moon Knight is an ex-merc who was killed and left for dead by his commander when he tried to betray him to save some people. He gets resurrected by an Egyptian God and becomes his avatar of vengeance. He slowly goes crazy and develops multiple personalities as he doubts the existence of a God who physically does things for him. His runs always have interesting art and cool concepts. Best b list hero ever.

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Stirner wasn't a nihilist m8. He was an egoist. And I'm in agreement with you that the Stirner memeing is getting tiresome - though in my case it's because I think it has contributed a lot to people misunderstanding Stirner.

I do consider letting yourself die - which is different from actively taking your own life - to be a valid choice for a nihilist, actually.

The problem is that I don't think it's possible for anyone to purge themselves of any kind of interests to the point of being so extremely indifferent to the world that you would just let yourself starve to death and not even care. You would have truly become the passive nihilist sage to accomplish that, but again, Is vs. Ought

That's also a false equivalency. Meaning is a complicated and specific theoretical term. A Coconut is just an object.

It's akin to circular logic as far as I'm concerned to cash out the concept of meaning by using meaning itself, like if you tried to define space by using the concept of space.

wew you sure hurt my feelings there lad. As a nihilist I take myself extremely seriously :^)

fucking retard

You should read Quine's essay "Ontological Relativism" m8. He argues that linguistic meaning cannot possibly exist either, and I'm inclined to agree.

Skeleton here I found this post racist towards skeletons because it portrays skeletons as Godless heathens that believe life has no meaning. In fact a large majority of skeletons are God fearing Christian Nazbol Anarcho Monarcho Nationalist Capitalist Communist. But then again what do you expect from a straight white human male.

Exist in what form?

Dropped.

Then I cannot understand what you are saying to me.

Thank you for your opinion Yui.

Nihilism is bullshit that puts matter into the concept of not mattering. Or, it is impossible not to see the matter in things.

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Not an argument

we all know you'd just post stirner memes and call everything a spook anyways

Everything isn't a spook though. Maybe you'd know that if you read Stirner

of course, but anything you feel uncomfortable to argue about you'd call a sboog and get away with it

Stirner gives a pretty specific definition of what spooks are and they aren't "anything you feel uncomfortable with"

Also calling something a Spook doesn't necessarily negate its relevance it just means it doesn't have any innate relevance in itself and you have to demonstrate why I should submit to it.

Maybe you'd know that if you read stirner

the problem is this shit is so easy to misunderstand and so exploitable any fedorafag can chime in and call everything a spook

Okay but that doesn't matter. A lot of people who are atheists also use it to justify carpet bombing the Middle East into oblivion, that doesn't mean you can just dismiss all atheists outright as "hurr fedora ur automatically wrong"

Fuck off Yui. I don't like Quine either but the article is relevant to meaning in language.

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My favourite nihilist is Cioran.

Reminder that Nietzsche is a poor man's Kierkegaard.

reminder that jesus is the white man's muhammad

to be fair their critique of le human nature is pretty useful while arguing with Holla Forumscucks and lolberts, i'll give them that.
but other than that, they really dont do anything

them be fighting words gomrade

Nah, kierkegaard is the autist's nietzsche

Dat perma butthurt

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The only thing anarchists can do is misrepresent Nietzsche into a vague "bee yourself" philosopher and get shitted on by the police. That's pretty much it.

Nietzsche is the autist's Nietzsche.

Even after that thread yesterday where you pretty much BTFO anyone saying Nietzsche was a nihilist and was actually an aristocrat anarchist are still appropriating him.

So mutch care and effort lel.

Dont you want to be a proto-fascist untermench user? :^)

literally pleb

You just come off as an edgy teen to anyone who isn't already leftist by writing murder fanfictions about the police

It's Nietzsche's aphoristic style and change of opinion regarding the size of the state that is able to delude them. If you read everything and then understand his application of biology to his philosophy/class structure plus historical context you can't come off without knowing he is a reactionary. Also anarchists can't understand the division between individuals and groups so Nietzsche's delusions about the greatness of the individual, the individual aristocrat, deludes them.

>if i think hard enought about abolishing them without having any enforcement by wepon we will have a succesfull revolution soon
Thats pretty idealistic for a commi. ;)

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Biting the bait constantly distracts you of starting a revolutuion larp-san. Come on you are the vangaurd right. ;)

I can't help that your ideology is so shiet desu

Your plan is to just randomly assassinate police officers in capitalist countries with a 24/7 private news cycle that acts like pure propaganda, with a gigantic police force and army. Plus all your attacks and property damage really only terrify the population into siding with the police. All you do is swap one body acting as a cop for another. Direct action is literally the shittiest thing in existence and has even less success than the other non-successful anarchist ideology like ancom.

So this is what they mean when they talk about tankie asshurt

So mutch for the potentional class consciousness, cant escpae the spectacle under advanched capitalism.

Marxist Leninism is the pure rape of Stalinism, he is the ultimate egoist and fags who submit to the spooks under his authority are dumb as fuck and deserve to be used.

Like clockwork, lick that idea of a boot you dirty slut.

Didn't Marx BTFO you guys like over a hundred years ago?

she's cute af

Clearly not cause the cancer of egoism is still rampant and marxism has been raped being recognition by the current left.
Being class conscious means that you are an idiot tho, its like being race conscious.

*beyond
Langauge is a spook.

There are Marxist rebellions all over the world and Marxist political parties are popular even in the former USSR. You guys are popular on a Cantonese Cartoons forum.

Spooks are a spook. Read early Marx.

So what does being a lifestylist/nihilist even entail?

Living perfectly according to capitalist society while occasionally driving past stop signs when no one's looking?

Revolution soon comr8. (n-no this time there will be a revolution! Trust me we are planning this since 1991!)

Are you kidding?
I bet you've never read a single thing on Kierkegaard except "lol he wuz christian"

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Purge yourself fam.

Existentialist with no other place to go reporting for duty.

Holy shit that picture is cringe as fuck

Ego-comma are the true edgelords

Yeah we're definitely being raided by reddit at this point. That's why there's so many "lol anarkiddies" shitposts.

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No, I meant that this place has always had a fair share of MLs and anarchists and its only recently that every other post has become divisive shitslinging.

This thread is pure cancer.

Why are nihilists perceived as edgy? I could see anarchism seen as edgy. Not nihilism of all things

Who the hell killed Czar? Did you even read some history?

I am talking about retarded anarkiddies whose only achievement is killing some Russian tsar.

Volya group? They were not Anarchists.

Marginal socialist movement that used terrorism, but not actual Anarchists.

Narodism is the best Russian socialism.

Bolsheviks can suck on it.

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This must be one of your asshole who does not suck for you

It's just a bunch of self-absorbed idiots being smug.

Me tbh.
I'm so edgy broken glass is jelly of me.

Reading this thread makes me think most Nihilists here are LARPers.

So, in other words, it's entirely statistically congruent with Holla Forums as a whole :^)

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"Anarcho"-Nihilists: Epicureans with edgy branding. Fucking boring liberal toss.

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
鬼神 Kill Em All 1989
I am trask man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS

鬼神 = fierce gods

Yet another well-informed poster on anarcho-nihilism. wew

This is why both Holla Forumss are garbage. Both of you cuck for different agendas. Haven't been here for to long but I already feel the millennial degeneracy here too. Just with a different coat.

You're telling me you're full of shit? See greentext in :

Practically, that's no different to Epicurus expounding that the purpose of life is pleasure.

inb4 yet another pile of sophist argument from your worthless self.

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Truly you have outclassed us

Who are you quoting?

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Nihilism isn't "Life doesn't matter, wah wah" but "Life doesn't matter, Hell yeah!"

Nihilism is not understanding Nietzsche because you haven't read Schopenhauer and then you call everything a spook.

I don't understand your reasoning, and it seems to me that you're the one here who has little to now understanding of Nietzsche. Your posts about how Nietzsche was an advocate of aristocracy because >HE SAID SO didn't impress me at all.

I like Buddhism cause it's just the right mix of nihilism and optimism.

found the American

Buddhism says there's a way to transcend suffering; nirvana is ultimate bliss and lasting happiness, what is more optimistic than that?

Bliss and happiness=/=optimism

Learn what words mean faggot

Nietzsche was a nihilist, what he called an "active nihilist" and set his project out against Schopenhauer, what he called "passive nihilism" or sometimes western Buddhism. To simplify, Schopenhauer said that life is all pain and sucks ass, that it's all the "Will to Live". Schopenhauer's ethics revolve around pity and empathy, aka feeling the pain of other beings (On the Basis of Morality by Schopenhauer). Nietzsche rails against him and states that life is the "Will to Power", aka class domination. That's why he hates pity and compassion so much. Nietzsche fully embraces the Will to Power and jerks off on how good power is.He rails against deniers of life who want to make life miserable by making everyone equal "Last Man".(4umi.com/nietzsche/zarathustra/41)
TL;DR You got duped by a guy who literally said he was an aristocrat. Just because he uses the word "nihilist" doesn't mean anything.

well the dictionary says, Optimism: "noun; hopefulness and confidence about the future or the successful outcome of something."

Someone who has confidence in what the Buddha taught will have optimism.

Optimism: synonyms: hopefulness, hope, confidence, buoyancy, cheer, cheerfulness, good cheer…

sounds like happiness. :)

Show me where in any of the Bhagavad Gita or any other mainstream Buddhist scripture it preaches "hopefulness" "hope" "confidence" "cheer" "cheerfulness" "good cheer"

Nietzsche was also introduced to philosophy through Schopenhauer and liked him early in his career before he became what we call "Nietzschean". So reading and understanding the other reactionary Schopenhauer is important for understanding the uber reactionary Nietzsche.

That's a hindu scripture, Buddhists don't use it.

Dhammapada Verse 203: Hunger is the greatest ailment, khandhas are the greatest ill. The wise, knowing them as they really are, realize Nirvana, the greatest bliss.

I don't see the word "Optimism" anywhere in that quote

m8 this is all pretty basic shit about Nietzsche that you're talking about, and again it really doesn't impress me. I mean, at least you realize that Nietzsche was an active nihilist and not a passive one, but protip: SO AM I AND LITERALLY EVERY ANARCHO-NIHILIST, EGOIST, INSURRECTIONIST, AND ILLEGALIST.

So, that really doesn't help you.

Your argument as far as I can tell w/r/t to Nietzsche being a monarchist, basically, is that Nietzsche was an advocate of aristocracy because he speaks highly of aristocracy and nobility, and because his metaphysical view (if you interpret it as a Heideggerian) was essentially that the world is in a state of constant chaos with everything trying to dominate everything around it. The will to power, in other words. I think this is a really amusingly vapid analysis coming from someone who rocks the hammer and sickle flag and is some kind of M-L apparently, because it's exactly what I'd except from a small-minded Old Left drone like you seem to be.

The fact that Nietzsche says he admired nobility is hardly a reason to say that he was an advocate of monarchy/aristocracy. I think that anyone who knows anything about the history of monarchy can tell you that Nietzsche most certainly wouldn't support power via inheritance in some fashion, given how the racked the lines of kings have been with diseases brought on by inbreeding. Because I'm sure you, being such a well-read Nietzsche scholar, would surely know how much health and sickness play into Nietzsche's writings as metaphors for his philosophical concerns with the health of the will/spirit of individuals.

Let us not forget also that Nietzsche was in fact an admirer of slave morality, but in a different sort of way; he admired the slave morality of the "Jews" (Christians) precisely because it succeeded in transvaluation from master to slave morality. He admired master morality and aristocracy for it being a more truthful expression of life-affirmation, but he certainly didn't want to return to that. It would be a huge contradiction to his overall project to seek to go beyond Good and Evil by going backwards; rather, it's part of his style to be controversial by flying in the face of the commonly-held beliefs of his day that were so entrenched in the public consciousness like liberal pity and compassion by reminding us that greatness is won through violence and striving for power, not denying it and life itself.

And on the topic of power: I also find it very droll for a fucking M-L to think that this somehow makes him an aristocrat when acquiring power is a huge part of the communist project. We are trying to bring about a change in history that most people don't want or agree with and that most people would try to stop; aspiring to power is fucking essential to that. You can dress it up all you want with internalized liberal bullshit about progress and the will of the people and whatnot, but at the end of the day Engels was right to say that revolution is an authoritarian act. And for classical anarchists, that's a bit of a problem.

I don't give a shit about that, though. Nietzsche was right to say that we shouldn't stoop to the level of the rabble; it's demeaning to them and makes us weak. We should be more aristocratic, not in purse or office but in spirt, as Emma Goldman put it.

accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.179.than.html
In terms of cheerfulness and having confidence this one speaks about practitioners who have "four pleasant mental abidings in the here & now" by purifying their minds and how they have developed "verified confidence" in the teachings, the buddha and his followers.

accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an10/an10.066.niza.html
This one says to take delight in the teachings, which is a pleasantness.

accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an09/an09.034.than.html
This one the Buddha is hopeful about a sick monk and teaches him not to worry and be anxious.

Optimism, confidence, peacefulness and good cheer appear all throughout what the Buddha taught, maybe not in those exact words but they are there. The whole point is to transcend suffering.

Nirvana is described as the greatest bliss in that quote. Nirvana is the goal of Buddhism. So anyone who works towards it should be optimistic.

oops the last link should be : accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn35/sn35.075.than.html

regarding the sick monk

I've heard this all before and honestly it doesn't impress me either. By what mechanism do you have power? Only by ignoring that (Nietzsche didn't) can you wax on and on about power. It's a bunch of nonsense that's so abstracted from reality it's almost useless to talk about.

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dw bb you're still loved by marxists who aren't dogmats which is actually quite hard to find on this board

The NEP was a mistake.

The Memes are real.

remind me who that is in the picture. hot

Can't argue with that.

leftcoms and annils are my favourite posters don't fight pls

fight! fight! fight!

Lets do it!

why is this so enticing to listen to?

I'll be buying this book tomorrow. I don't have a scanner, so unfortunately I won't be able to put it into a .pdf, but depending on how long it is, I may be willing to transcript it.

I emailed the author about getting a .pdf but if I can't get one, I have a copy too. I don't have a scanner either, so if you wanted to try transcripting it we could collab on putting it into LaTeX and submit it to The Anarchist Library.

I'd be more than willing to collaborate with you on it, but I have no experience whatsoever with LaTeX, so I'd be of little help in that department.

LaTeX is pretty easy to learn. You could try giving this a read and see if it seems like something you'd be able to help with.

A nihilist book club/transcription team would be incredibly dank

I'll give it a read while I wait for the book to ship.

We could organize the transcription/book club on the /anarcho/ board or IRC, it'd be a pretty cool project if we could get all of the nihilist funposters onboard.

Well, looking at the Anarchist Library's page for submitting books and asking their IRC, if we wanted to submit it to them it'd have to be in HTML format or just plain text: theanarchistlibrary.org/action/text/new

I think that making our own .pdf would be cooler and a learning experience for using LaTeX, but it's also not necessary if people just wanted to transcript. Doing a transcription in parallel with reading a text might be neat.

It'd certainly be a good way to increase retention, if you did it page-by-page or something like that.

I think that the most important part of the transcription would be just getting the text out there for other nihilists (or those interested) to read.

I am still interested in learning LaTeX though, so I will be giving the .pdf a look regardless.

Yeah, of course. That's mainly why I'd want to do a transcription is to get out more of the canon since anarcho-nihilism is a relatively new tendency (even though it has a history already with the Russian Nihilists and illegalism), though idk how fast the Anarchist Library works at making .pdfs

So should we make new threads for this? This can be discussed in the #anarcho channel on Rizon but I'm afk atm

For shame.

P.S.: Antihumanism > nihilism

I think that Nick Land's thought - from what I know about it - is extremely interesting. But he also mutated into a neo-reactionary, which is a bit disconcerting to me. Nevertheless I'd like to give Fanged Noumena a try again sometime. His style is also very interesting, but makes for extracting the ideas out of his writings pretty difficult.

m8, pls

That's a very good post. I know Nietzsche by heart, and I don't like him, so I'm very sincere when I say that.

I appreciate that famrade.

Alright, lad, my copy's on the way. I'll stop by #anarcho when it arrives.

Also, isn't #anarcho on Freenode now rather than Rizon?

I have an #/anarcho/ channel on freenode too for people who prefer to use freenode/tor, but the Rizon channel has just gotten more use though personally I think freenode is the better choice