What does Holla Forums think of this company? Sounds like exactly what we've wanted in a computer manufacturer.
puri.sm
Perfect laptop OEM?
Luis Jones
Caleb Hall
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Charles Hughes
it would be interesting to see how windows functions on this
Kayden Long
Purism is really good. It's not quite Stallman-certified due to the FSP and vBIOS, but there's work under way to reverse engineer both of those.
For perhaps the first time ever, the response would be "lol, who cares?" when asking an x86 OEM about Windows support. Their entire schtick is Free Software. I'm actually considering trying DragonFly BSD on a Purism.
Anthony Rodriguez
Purism started off as absolute cancer, when their v1 shipped they didn't even have open source touchpad drivers, it seems they've redirected their efforts into being a good company.
Lunduke had their CEO on his show and it was encouraging to see how much is open now and how they're interacting with other open source projects.
Feels weird man, because of how badly they started I am still wary but we're very close to non botnet new x86 CPUs because of these guys.
At the very least they will know how Microsoft feels whenever someone asks them to support linux on their surface line.
Christopher Hernandez
I feel like they are still a little bit of a joke. I think the company is fine right now, but they need to ship a good product that reflects there current situation. Little news blurbs like these are nice, but it isn't going to create as big of a PR thing as releasing a new product would. If there phone goes well, people's view on them will definitely change.
I'm still not sure if I want to back there phone though since it is pretty expensive. I could use a dumb phone + pda/laptop and it would be a lot cheaper for a somewhat similar expensive. If I just wanted to switch to something like copperhead or replicant, I would need to buy a completely new phone anyways (the cheapest phone that they support is a few hundred cheaper than the librem 5 IIRC). Although running GNU/Linux on a phone would be cool, I'm not sure how good the experience would be without a proper keyboard. I'm open to hearing why I should get it, else give me more FUD. I want to have a firm decision and not just panic buy it since I only have this weekend to decide.
Caleb Flores
Can't some company just buy old IBM thinkpad designs from Lenovo, adapt it to new 4:3 or 3:2 13 inch screens like ones you see in iPad's or Microsoft tablets, and start producing new hardware with complete backwards compatibility with existing chink accessories like keyboards, palmrests and nipples?
Luis Walker
At this point, I'm planning to just move away from Intel entirely, and never give them a penny again. The Pinebook (ARM) laptop sounds interesting. There's also that MIPS-based one (Loongson), but seems to be hard to get ahold of unless you live in or travel to China.
But most likely I'll just go with an ARM SBC, and avoid laptops entirely.
Daniel Cox
you can do the same thing they're doing to disable ME yourself now, the software and documentation are out, you just need $100 worth of shit, a pi and some cables/clamps. you also need to be able to take the risk if you brick the board or processor.
the risk and experience doing it seem well worth it though if your going to consider dropping $1700 on a new laptop.
Joshua Jenkins
More interested in their smartphone. Just need a good browser, email client, maps and streaming music player, everything else can suck a dick
Jeremiah Gomez
Check the asus c201, it is a librebooted laptop with every driver that is open source (except GPU and Wifi dongle, but both aren't vital)
Joseph Taylor
I WANT A PDA WITH A HARDWARE KEYBOARD AND FREE DRIVERS
Is such a thing possible, and am I allowed to dream about it?
Isaiah Martin
WEW
Still not RYF certified
I don't trust them.
They have blatantly lied more than once.
They promised that the ME would be removed completely without being sure that they could.
They did made an effort to "neutralise" it (to say that most of it seems to not work but without guaranty) but I still won't trust any hardware that isn't released has free from the beginning.
aka only hardware like this:
raptorcs.com
Isaac Scott
Been trying for a long while. Beaglebone, odroids, pinebook. It's just not there yet.
The pinebook is too flimsy. Bad keyboard. Low volume output. Crude trackpad. Too slow for use as a daily driver. Good value for the price, and cute/shiny, but it's quite limited.
Aiden Butler
This. Just looked it up, as I also like the idea of getting away from Intel, and its only 1.2 GHz? That can't be right. I mean even the Libreboot Thinkpads are at 2.26 at the minimum, and support 8GB of RAM.
I can see TALOS II being a great choice for an alternative architecture on the desktop, and compatibility won't be a problem, as distros such as Debian and Fedora have full support for it.
On the subject of purism, I think we really need to take a look at this page. It looks like they want to have up-to-date hardware, while sticking to a roadmap that eventually leads a Fully, 100% free computer. It also shows where they are at this point
puri.sm
Camden Parker
I'm really looking forward to puri.sm's tablet, when that's released. Dell's 2016 XPS12 was wonderful except for generally crashiness and oh an instant KP if you tried to put it to sleep. Thanks Broadcom! With a tablet I'm also not expecting it to be great at gaymes, which is the reason I'm less interested in purism's other stuff.
Jaxon Perez
It's technically possible but it's not going to be mass produced. The closest thing you can do is either build one from an Arduino or RISC V.
Dominic Hughes
This is what I've been considering lately. An Orange Pi PC with adapter and a tiny screen would make a cute frugal diy setup for like 60 bucks.
Jack Jenkins
Aren't Pi's full of closed source firmware?
Connor Campbell
Might as well be a Macfag
Brayden Perry
The "Orange Pi PC Plus" is an upgraded version with an 8GB eMMC module and WiFi antenna
Jayden Russell
Connor Rodriguez
I never understood why people use Macbooks as reference to prices of laptops
Luis Richardson
To be fair Broadcom released documentation and source for their chip, you don't need blobs anymore, there's still blobs in other places just because they haven't ported the new code in yet.
raspberrypi.org
Nolan Green
Depends. On one hand, you have the Raspberry, which was blobbed to hell and back when it came out. On the other, there's Beaglebone, which is fully open if you don't plan on using the gpu. How open are the Oranges? No idea. Probably more than Intel.
Nicholas Ortiz
No, don't buy that shit
Mine overheated stock, had a shitload of problems in making it run with a tv out and then somehow shorted itself and now it's collecting dust
Kayden Williams
H3 does run hot. Shouldn't overheat though if you're on Armbian. I wouldn't recommend using any other distro on Oranges. Personally, I think the two worth considering are the 10 dollar One and the 15 dollar PC. My home server is an OPi One clocked at 480MHz, works just fine.
Kevin Rivera
They're overpriced and so are these. Would an Alienware reference be more up your alley?
Joseph Harris
Better them than Sony
Jeremiah Davis
They are expensive, but well built machines. Calling them 'overpriced' is like a McDonald's employee saying Porshe is over priced, he was never the target market anyway so even if they are it's an irrelevant statement.
Gavin Nguyen
I don't think how you could call anything that sports a ULV CPU "well built", it's got planned obsolescence written all over it.
John Thomas
*don't know how
Caleb Taylor
Pinebook has a Mali GPU and thus a proprietary out-of-tree GPU driver or raw framebuffer.
Colton Moore
pinebook is also basically a pi in a laptop case performance wise, and plays video poorly according to people on jewtube (lot of buffering, bad audio)
Kevin Ramirez
Maybe, but what are you doing that would require the next gen CPU anyway?
I guarantee all your needs will be met.
Sebastian Mitchell
Your next line will be "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear"
Liam Brown
I've had a chance to visually inspect one of their older revisions of Librem 15.
The display backlight seems to use PWM and with low frequency which is visible and hurting eyes.
I asked on the official website but they refused to tell if they will be using PWM in the future revisions.
Looks like this is not an alternative to Apple laptops yet.
William Scott
with non-critical ME modules removed and the killswitch activated it's basically already botnet-free
Ian Taylor
At this point Intel is your best bet since there's no work being done on disabling the whole PSP / TrustZone thing on the AMD side
The pinebook has something similar to ME I think
You can also use an OEM flash tool, manually set the HAP bit in the bios payload and pray it'll work (it'll 100% not work if you use UEFI boot because the tool will try to update the firmware through an UEFI capsule, which is cryptographically signed)
Asher Foster
if your laptop doesn't have boot guard enabled