Comfiest OS

Nicholas Miller
Nicholas Miller

Dream come true. My daily timewaster machine is now running Windows 2000 functionally. A japanese autist is writing kernel extensions and API wrappers for the Windows 2000 kernel. Using his extensions, you can run modern browsers/software. He's also modifying chipset drivers and backporting security updates, though I wouldn't rely on it for anything mission-critical.

This is amazing. A shitty Pentium 4 with an much ram as the board will take, and 80% of the websites I use on a regular basis are fully functional (and if a shit is being shitty, disable javascript!), email, spreadsheets and text editing work fine. The OS absolutely screams, I can't believe how responsive and fluid it feels, and the best part is the total lack of flat metro cancer, instead you have the clean, comfy and aesthetic 9x UI. It feels comfy as fuck and takes me back almost 20 years. My only complaint is the integrated IE explorer shell, but until someone figures out how to get a modern lightweight browser working on Windows NT, it'll do!

Some 775 boards have Win2K drivers, i can only imagine how fucking fast they'd be.

Microsoft's OS development really should have stopped with Windows 2000. Transition to 64-bit, dump some of the legacy compatibility crap no one cares about anymore gradually, harden it as vulnerabilities are discovered, tell glow i the dark cia niggers to fuck off with their backdoors, add new core technologies as their value is proven.

Other urls found in this thread:

blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1299806.html
win2k.dyniform.net/windows-2000-update-pack.html
blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/
pouet.net/prod.php?which=59105
pouet.net/prod.php?which=68360
windowmaker.org/
betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33250
stephanos.io/archives/21
github.com/mistydemeo/tigerbrew
stardock.com/products/windowblinds/
heise.de/tp/features/How-NSA-access-was-built-into-Windows-3444341.html
arcanoae.com/
sevan.mit.edu/
pkgsrc.org/
github.com/JohnnyHobo/ArkOS
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_chart
youtu.be/9uDXtJqdcKM
danika.jukor.net/win2000.html
winworldpc.com/product/windows-nt-2000/final
winworldpc.com/download/413ce280-9436-18c3-9a11-c3a4e284a2ef

Ryan Cox
Ryan Cox

Nice bloat, because they didn't do any of what you wanted. If you used the right combination of linux software you would get even better performance, and most certainly better security, in your pentium 4. If you want windows 9x UI just get a XFCE theme for it faggot.

Why trust this random chink to backport patches to a already compromised OS?

Nathaniel Cruz
Nathaniel Cruz

You're 100% dependent on a singular Japanese autist for backported security updates, and you're worried about space aliens and CIA niggers?

Angel Butler
Angel Butler

I wouldn't rely on it for anything mission-critical
80% of the websites I use on a regular basis are fully functional
Windows

Why the fuckitty fuck would I ever use this over linux? Just WHY?

Cameron Williams
Cameron Williams

You know Windows XP and 7 have a classic style right?

It sounds like your main argument for using it is >muh nostalgia and >muh classic theme and you can just use a classic theme without needing to overburden yourself using 17 year old software

Carson Roberts
Carson Roberts

also like said there are ways to make Linux look almost nearly identical to windows classic

Chase Morris
Chase Morris

Huh, that's pretty impressive. How modern can your software get with KernelEX?

Benjamin Williams
Benjamin Williams

Because linux software for anything outside software development is absolutely shit.

Mason Robinson
Mason Robinson

...but that's all I care about, software development. Well that and web-browsing but that works just fine on Linux also Gimp and Krita work fine and there are some good games on linux that work fine. Linux does everything you could want and does it better.

Justin Myers
Justin Myers

The fuck are you talking about? Have you ever heard of wine? Atleast with wine you get more security with your shitty winblows applications.

Gabriel Scott
Gabriel Scott

Linux does everything you could want and does it better.
everything you could want
lists web browsing, software development, Gimp, Krita and "some good games"
everything
Have you ever heard of wine?
wine
Most programs barely work
A lot of them have spotty compatibility
general low framerates across the board
Program compatibility is spotty
most people who play vidya and use Linux most of the time dualboot

Jason Campbell
Jason Campbell

What the fuck do you want to do exactly?

There are many things I CAN'T do on windjews that I do on linux.

Literally the only thing that right away comes to mind is "there's a bunch of shitty Windows exclusive programs and games that nobody in their right mind would ever want to waste their time and which could all probably run in Wine anyways".

Blake Baker
Blake Baker

What the fuck do you want to do exactly?
Use obscure hardware peripherals without having a BA in computer science for starters

Chase Wright
Chase Wright

shhhh. That is too much logic for the Linux autiste community. They will start explaining how writing driver is not that complicated.

Hudson Cooper
Hudson Cooper

False faggot. OP is using a pentium 4. He ain't playing any modern games with that. Wine has improved greatly, to the point of running windows applications better then windows 10. The gaming situation has improved on wine. You can play any DX9/10 game you can think of and some DX11 games now with great performance.

So you are doing it wrong.

Zachary Sanders
Zachary Sanders

Well it isn't because you are just building off of c classess the kernel gives to you and pointing to memory adresses for hardware manipulation. MAYBE just maybe you are programming the device itself using a assembly language specific to it MAYBE.

Ian Moore
Ian Moore

He ain't playing any modern games with that
Even still a lot of older games even run very terribly on modern Windows, let alone Linux.

Then you run into other situations like, does the game require a fix that only runs on Windows. Or does it require codecs that windows even got rid of a long time ago. I remember Max Payne 1 on Windows 7 requires a sound fix because it used a sound format that Microsoft removed in later versions.

The gaming situation has improved on wine
Not really, you're still going to run into tons of incompatibility issues. Even if it's as small as like "Game dips to 20 fps whenever you go into this menu". Stuff like that. It's generally a more temperamental experience.

Then you get into trying to run obscure programs most people haven't even heard of. Like for instance if you want to try modding a game, the level editor almost certainly never works on Linux and even if you got it to work, a lot of things about it won't. Like attempting to compile the level or use its script editor.

You can play any DX9/10 game you can think of and some DX11 games now with great performance.
The last time I installed Linux on my laptop I was curious about the performance of Wine so I did a test.

I ran the native port of Half-Life 1 on Linux and I ran it on Wine

The native port of Half-Life 1 ran at a steady 60 fps as to be expected

The Wine version ran at approximately 40 fps and dipped to 30 frequently.

Emulation is always slower than the real thing and depending on your hardware that can make running a game basically unplayable.

William Reyes
William Reyes

ah that is my issue too, I just gave up on ever having working audio, and nobody ever was helpful to me they all just claimed I was stupid and it could be done without explaining how

but these are the sacrifices we must make

Nathaniel Phillips
Nathaniel Phillips

How long ago was this? As of wine 2.0 you get great performance unless you are running ubuntu on a fucking potatoe/pentium 4. Nice bloat faggot.

Adam Cruz
Adam Cruz

The key here is knowing what hardware you have. lspci and lsusb should give you enough info to Google. If you want to use <anything> but Windows, you spend 2 seconds Googling before you buy to be sure it will work. It's not rocket science, and you'll feel a bit silly when you realize how easy the solutions are. Most people on /g/ and Holla Forums are knowledgeable enough to field questions if you want to take a day or two to learn to use Linux.

Easton Morris
Easton Morris

How long ago was this? As of wine 2.0 you get great performance unless you are running ubuntu on a fucking potatoe/pentium 4. Nice bloat faggot.
This year.

My laptop doesn't run that many games all that well but I was still able to get a better performance on Windows compared to Wine out of the games I tried. Albeit I didn't try something more graphically demanding.

Aiden Sanchez
Aiden Sanchez

overburden yourself using 17 year old software
If it works for him, there's absolutely no problem with it. No need to evangelize Linux to him like a pushy Morman. What I'd really like to know, is why the Japanese autist is so interested in writing the kernel extensions. It's one thing to use it, but to justify so much effort there must be a reason.

Isaiah Nelson
Isaiah Nelson

*Mormon.

Hunter Turner
Hunter Turner

the Japanese autist
autist
I think you answered your own question

He probably has some stupid reason like "I really like the dog in MS office"

Angel Wright
Angel Wright

Hahaha. Good point.

Justin Turner
Justin Turner

The OS absolutely screams, I can't believe how responsive and fluid it feels, and the best part is the total lack of flat metro cancer
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Keep an eye on ReactOS. If god willing Lunix dies, the OS in the shadows may grow faster. Though I worry if the bitches at MS won't crack down on ReactOS once it becomes big, or they would if it wasnt Russian.

Microsoft's OS development really should have stopped with Windows 2000. Transition to 64-bit, dump some of the legacy compatibility crap no one cares about anymore gradually, harden it as vulnerabilities are discovered, tell glow i the dark cia niggers to fuck off with their backdoors, add new core technologies as their value is proven.
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From Prism slides apparently backdoors started being added in since Vista to today and ofc Win10 is full spyware and they don't even hide it anymore. That said remember NsaKey BS. Don't trust OS with closed source, that's one thing Torvalds said that wasn't BS.

Ian Myers
Ian Myers

I'm not surprised really, the entire country absolutely loathes upgrading computers and using modern software. It wasn't too long ago that they were all using winxp and giving the finger to anything else.

Luke Scott
Luke Scott

You can allegedly also install a broken version of Windows ME from a Windows XP install disc because Microsoft were lazy fucks and just merged their Windows ME installer to the in-development XP installer

Nathan Harris
Nathan Harris

Vista was when PRISM was first implemented, however the weird NSAKey has existed since NT3 and that just sounds alarm bells.

Ian Murphy
Ian Murphy

I've heard that they still use fax quite a lot. It's a good attitude to have though, the majority of office workers could easily get by with windows 95. Obviously people managed with it just fine when it was new, and their work load hasn't exactly changed.

Eli Hernandez
Eli Hernandez

linux software is absolutely shit
use a 20 year old operating system with chink drivers to run internet explorer and windows media player

Matthew Torres
Matthew Torres

And the full catalog of software written for Windows 95...

Cameron Clark
Cameron Clark

Not going to lie, this looks pretty comfy. OP, do you have a link to the Japanese kernel autist?

Camden Robinson
Camden Robinson

have really great pornstash from the early 2000's
forgot password and the hard drive is a bit corrupted
reverse engineer entire operating system and release it so people won't find out you wasted decades of your life for lewd jpg anime pics

Andrew Cox
Andrew Cox

I'm fairly sure Linux is quite a bit slower on older hardware, if you want to do everything that an older windows can do, like running X and more modern web browsers.

Luis Jenkins
Luis Jenkins

Puppy Linux is pretty comfy. The guys behind it made a DE out of ROX and JWM, and wrote their own tools to make it easier to use.
Pic related is an older version, but it's the version I used when I used Puppy exclusively.

Jace Gomez
Jace Gomez

There are plenty of X servers for Windows.

Leo Jones
Leo Jones

This looks cool, I am very interested. Do you have a link to share with us?

Juan Ross
Juan Ross

Not OP, but I think this is it.
blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1299806.html

Ethan Torres
Ethan Torres

it looks like one of those fake GUIs that are applied as a decal sticker on a nonfunctional toy computer for 3 year olds

Charles Green
Charles Green

Mac before it become a Consumer-level OS.

pic related.

Bentley Lopez
Bentley Lopez

Looks like a shitty ubuntu fork.

Austin Hall
Austin Hall

Doom's first map editor looked really bad

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

Using his extensions, you can run modern browsers/software.
Is this able to run the visual c++ 2017 command line tools? If I could replace my godawful bloated windows dev VM it would be heavenly.

Carson Williams
Carson Williams

The japanese tend to still use very old versions of windows; pre-win7, usually NT.

The UK pays MS for extended support. The japanese tend to not care so much for individual security as its a collectivist country (obvs when you look at borders and immigration enforcement).

Ayden Turner
Ayden Turner

Exactly, it was made for engineers. Modern Mac is for people who don't want to be reminded they're on a computer.

Robert Rogers
Robert Rogers

Won't someone kill this old=insecure myth already?

Security updates are but one layer of the many layers of good security (including but not limited to: antivirus, firewall, sandbox, encryption, backups, security updates). I'm tired of people saying old Win installations are insecure, especially when implying that new ones magically are.

More power to the OP for his choice. I am of the opinion devs rush like fools to abandon old versions of whatever they're working on. For little benefit to the end user, who ends up being a beta tester of sorts. RANT OVER.

Juan Reyes
Juan Reyes

antivirus
lmao
I am of the opinion devs rush like fools to abandon old versions of whatever they're working on. For little benefit to the end user, who ends up being a beta tester of sorts.
You are the fool. Developers work to benefit themselves, which is why everyone is moving to the web where they have effective forced updating.

Adam Jenkins
Adam Jenkins

I see all the replies in this thread and all I can think is "whatever happened to being autistic for the thrill of it?"
Seriously OP this is cool, is the source available?

Blake Wilson
Blake Wilson

See It's in Japanese, so you may need to use Google Translate or something.

Jeremiah Perry
Jeremiah Perry

I am of the opinion devs rush like fools to abandon old versions of whatever they're working on.
That's not an opinion Peggie. They do it for money. There are plenty of businesses in the headlines that refused to update so you're in good company.

Gabriel Hill
Gabriel Hill

The UK pays MS for extended support
Does that mean patches/security hotfixes? how can we get them

1- You install your favorite flavor of Windows 2000 (from CD for extra authenticity)
2- You install SP4 and a bunch of security rollup hotfixes
3- Install every update from this pack: win2k.dyniform.net/windows-2000-update-pack.html
4- Get the latest version of KernelEx from the Japanautiste blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/

... K-meleon or Pale Moon
... Winamp 2.9 or foobar 2000
... Office 2000 and service packs for authenticity and fast as fuck doc editing
... Photoshop 7 (personally stick to 5.5)

Feel the warm glow of nostalgia as your system boots in seconds and feels so fucking fast doing 90%+ of what you want. Die a little bit inside when you realize this could have been the future we had, but instead we got a high viral load web 3.0 numale cuck hellscape.

Next challenge: Install Windows 2000 on an HP Evo desktop with a Core 2 Quad

James Cook
James Cook

Holy fuck boys I think this is gonna work.

Julian Perry
Julian Perry

Does windows 2000 properly support more than two cores/processors?

Aiden Rodriguez
Aiden Rodriguez

* Windows 2000 Professional will support up to two processors.
* Windows 2000 Server will support up to four processors.
* Windows 2000 Advanced Server will support up to eight processors.
* Windows 2000 Datacenter Server will support up to thirty-two processors.

So I'll be trying Server and de-serverifying it.

Gavin Rodriguez
Gavin Rodriguez

So potentially I could get my 8320e to run Windows 2000 to its full potential with the right Add-on cards? That's something I've got to try at some point.

Ayden Collins
Ayden Collins

With all this effort and expert knowledge going into hacking and supporting an outdated OS, I feel its ironic how many people say Windows is easier than Lignux.

Charles Young
Charles Young

Windows NT (Numale Technology)
being good
No.

IRIX was the best OS out there with the most features and most advanced GUI for its time. Even better than IBM OS/2. Pic related is MaXX Interactive (a fork of the IRIX Interactive Desktop) running on Fedora 26.

Mac before it become a Consumer-level OS.
No, that's not at all what it is, retard. I have to explain this to shit eating macfag retards like every fucking day. Modern OS X is a big mix of the FreeBSD kernel, the OS 9 userland, and a few GNU utils mixed into it. Everything else is made by Applel and the only NeXTSTEP components left over are the dock and a few sounds. Also NeXTSTEP had mediocre software support and the GUI was and is a big ball of poo. It only makes things harder.

Alexander Anderson
Alexander Anderson

Feel the warm glow of nostalgia as your system boots in seconds and feels so fucking fast doing 90%+ of what you want. Die a little bit inside when you realize this could have been the future we had, but instead we got a high viral load web 3.0 numale cuck hellscape.

I already died a little bit inside many years ago, when I tried out DamnSmallLinux in all its 50 MB glory. That's when I learned what "software bloat" means, and it's been a nightmarish ride into Bloatville ever since. We haven't stopped yet. We may never.

Adam Brown
Adam Brown

I already died a little bit inside many years ago, when I tried out DamnSmallLinux in all its 50 MB glory.

If you want to go further down the rabbit hole, see what 64 KB can do: pouet.net/prod.php?which=59105

What about 1 KB: pouet.net/prod.php?which=68360

What we experience is beyond bloat, it is the combined effort of all of mankind to actively ruin something that should just work.

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

Bloat is inevitable imo.

Easton Jones
Easton Jones

Nah, it's just because we have just shitty coders these days, with all those retards reinventing the wheel every single fucking day in a new meme language instead of reusing well-made, stable, proven open frameworks, that stack unproven technologies on top of each other without considering for a single second the complexity nor performance hit because they're completely ignorant about how computers work, and being so completely clueless about what computers are and what people expect from them.

Any attempt at simplifying the development process of software should be fucking stopped. It's hard, and that's how things are, yet it didn't stop countless people from learning and mastering it all, and delivering quality software. As long as people learn fucking learn fucking assembly, C, and ONE higher level language such as Python or Lua, there shouldn't be any issue with bloat.

Nolan Carter
Nolan Carter

Modern OS X is a big mix of the FreeBSD kernel, the OS 9 userland, and a few GNU utils mixed into it.

Actually:
FreeBSD
Yes so NeXTSTEP. They have been switching some of their MACH kernel stuff to the FreeBSD branch equivalent but it's still the same UNIX underpinnings.

OS 9 userland
Whoa, So NeXT with System 9 Wine on it. Modern macOS does not have mac system 9 userland components as they have evolved into something different.

Also NeXTSTEP had mediocre software support and the GUI was and is a big ball of poo.
The UI was fine and there was nothing better during the time. Of course, Steve was a retard and failed to market it correctly for mass-adoption on i386 and without funds to update it, it lacked features by 1995. You type like a retarded child.

You're argument is like saying that WIndows 9X isn't Windows because they replaced DOS with NT. Inversely, modern MacOSX is a hacked OPENSTEP, it has almost nothing to do with Classic Mac anymore. Even the widget names in xcode are consistent with the ones in NeXTSTEP Interface Builder.

Landon King
Landon King

You can have a NeXT-like environment on Linux. windowmaker.org/

Austin Morris
Austin Morris

Modern macOS does not have mac system 9 userland components
Sweet Jesus, you're fucking retarded.

The UI was fine and there was nothing better during the time
4Dwm was and is better.

You type like a retarded child
At least I know the difference between "your" and "you're".

You're argument is like saying that WIndows 9X isn't Windows because they replaced DOS with NT
My argument isn't even close to that. I'm arguing that Android isn't Debian just because they share a kernel. Is OS X FreeBSD? No. Is OS X NeXTSTEP? No. Is OS X the same as OS 9? No. But OS X not only shares components of all three, it's made of them almost exclusively.

modern MacOSX is a hacked OPENSTEP
Not in the way you think it is.

the widget names in xcode are consistent with the ones in NeXTSTEP Interface Builder
Thanks for proving my point. It's pretty much just the graphical parts.

Henry Thompson
Henry Thompson

TFW thread about comfy, mentioning
Windows 9x retro DEs
RiscOS retro DEs
IRIX retro DEs
& NeXTSTEP retro DEs, but...
Why hasn't anyone ever made a classic Mac retro DE? Even just a crossplatform equivalent of Pathfinder would be a godsend.

Like this user said. Even after baleeting Classic & Carbon, OSuX still has a lot of OS 9 components both in its design and under the hood as architectural features. Similarly, while it is of course based on OpenStep, OSuX threw out entire subsystems for from-scratch rewrites, and even those rewrites have themselves been rewritten numerous times since 10.0. The biggest flaw with OSuX is simply that it has no unified design ethos on the technical nor user level, instead being a mishmash of whatever is popular at the moment or whatever "cool" idea somebody on the devteam thinks of.

Noah Gutierrez
Noah Gutierrez

The UI was fine and there was nothing better during the time
<4Dwm was and is better.
4Dwm in 1989
that image
LOL. Check your dates son. 4dwm in 1989 was garbage and barely progressed beyond stock motif wm.

Thanks for proving my point. It's pretty much just the graphical parts.
Graphical? How about the entire platform. Cocoa, interprocess communication through Objective C (smalltalk), the libraries, the other AppKit APIs. There's a reason why you can drag-and-drop NeXT programs into xCode and have them working in 30 minutes. Hell, half the apps and icons in modern OSX are FOSS and are literally the same as they were on NeXTSTEP. You can pull the Textedit.app source right now from Apple's website.

Not only do NeXT and OSX share a similar MACH/FREEBSD Kernel, the OSX platform is directly descended from NeXT. Windows10's variant of Win32 is descended from Win 9x's variant WinAPI and win16.

What kind of pajeet programmer are you that you can't keep track of what platform you're developing on?

Dylan Lee
Dylan Lee

Obj C (Smalltalk)
Win 10 isn't based on DEC VAX VMS

William Jones
William Jones

Use obscure hardware peripherals without having a BA in computer science for starters
Yeah, same. That's why people run Windows on old MIPS workstations, POWER9 servers, embedded ARM devices, and so on.

Oh wait.

Samuel Martinez
Samuel Martinez

I loved how "physical" the old Mac system was.

How to install a new font? Drag the font to the System folder! How to print a file? Drag the file to the printer icon! How to create a clipping of some text? Drag the selected text to the desktop! How to eject a disk? Drag the disk to the trash can! How to put away a window like it was a tab? Drag it to the bottom of the screen!

Even with all of its shortcomings, somehow the Mac just made perfect sense in its own sort of roundabout way. I want that "it makes sense" feeling back, because no other system does!

Jacob Morales
Jacob Morales

A lot of that came from their rigorous, pervasive specification of intentional design. For instance, most people remember that you couldn't have multiple icon views of the same folder open at once, to enforce "spatiality", but how many people remember that any other means of viewing the same item in multiple windows, such as clicking the disclosure triangle in a list view of a folder whose own window was already open, would automatically close the other window?

Every single aspect, behavior, and implementation detail of the Mac System was carefully distinguished from other approaches, studied with real users, unambiguously laid down in black and white, retained across versions, and faithfully executed by devs both inside and outside Apple. That's the kind of discipline and commitment no other major platform has had before or since.

Ayden Turner
Ayden Turner

(trips checked)
Ah, the HIG. It should be the Holy Bible of every developer: learn the HIG, obey the HIG. Good usability comes from consistent appearance and behavior, so never deviate from the HIG unless you truly have to.

And I just remembered another peculiar behavior of the Mac (I can't recall if they have changed it since). What happens if you copy a folder to where there is already another folder with an identical name? Windows tries to merge the folders, keeping the content of both. The Mac just replaces the old folder entirely. Whatever was in there is erased.

I can't decide which one is more logical now.

Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

The replace approach (after a warning, of course) seems less liable to cause confusion. But IMHO the Mac shouldn't have given any privilege to filenames, pathnames, or directory hierarchies whatsoever, at least on an internal implementation level (that said, on a technologically arbitrary UI level, preventing items with the same name from being in the same folder might have some merit from a human factors perspective, but not having to deal with "Untitled Document 2/3/4/5/etc" does sound very convenient to me). The "alias" system already relied on Db-style unique identifiers, as did the "resource fork" format, so demoting the traditional "filesystem" to a purely secondary role would've been trivial. And it would've meant being able to use ":" in filenames

Nolan Lewis
Nolan Lewis

All of those actions still apply to modern MacOS.

Anthony Thompson
Anthony Thompson

How hard would it be to create a better (but illegal) version of ReactOS with leaked source+wine+reverse engineered components? There is darknet git already, the technology is ready.

Jackson Foster
Jackson Foster

Thoughts on Parabola?

Kayden Hill
Kayden Hill

Wasn't the "OpenNT" project secretly this?
betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33250
stephanos.io/archives/21

Ayden Kelly
Ayden Kelly

Comfiest OS
that does not look like Plan9 to me

Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown

implying

Nolan Kelly
Nolan Kelly

What if you do it openly, without pretending to give a shit about the law?

Carter Sanders
Carter Sanders

Even if your don't give a shit about the law, the law gives a shit about you.

Connor Ward
Connor Ward

The closest thing to mystery software I can think of was early releases of Bitcoin by the (presumably Japanese) "Satoshi Nakamoto".

Joseph Wilson
Joseph Wilson

Parabola is Arch done right. Most underrated OS available.

Kayden Nelson
Kayden Nelson

All of those actions still apply to modern MacOS.

Not all of them. You can't touch the System folder anymore, things like fonts go into the Library folder. And I don't think you can put away windows like pic related, although the Dock serves a similar purpose.

Robert Moore
Robert Moore

Also, since 10.7, because the Library folder is full of cryptic *N*X legacy garbage and .plist files that aren't supposed to be tinkered with by mere mortals, all of the Library and System folders have been made invisible by default.

Chase Watson
Chase Watson

silk road/agora/etc (not software)
ultrahle
piracy release groups
most original stuff on .onion git hosting sites

Levi Barnes
Levi Barnes

In Linux/BSD, the lib folder is used for lib files which are linked against. OSX apps are statically linked so they wouldn't need this. In Linux/BSD, you have numerous .folders which store user generated cache files and settings in home. In OSX ~/Library is the dumping ground for all of this. The main /Library folder in OSX is more like a /usr/share. So you see, Apple's Library is their own creation and has almost nothing to do with *NIX.

Lincoln Taylor
Lincoln Taylor

No need to evangelize Linux to him like a pushy Morman
The irony is that this is what all the old windows 2000/xp users do when they try to justify how amazing microsofts abandoned 20+ year old OS is/was.

Christopher Howard
Christopher Howard

he can't edit .plist files
Nigger, shits no different from your .rc files

Ian Taylor
Ian Taylor

OSX 10.4 on a higher end PPC is pretty comfy imo fam.

Some people refuse to give it up and they are maintaining software for it. It SCREAMS on my duel G5. Youtube (with a youtube-dl frontend+mplayer) and modern websites work well.

MacOS really started going to shit once they switched to x86. 10.10 and above are a sloppy mess.

Gavin Ortiz
Gavin Ortiz

github.com/mistydemeo/tigerbrew

Ryder Stewart
Ryder Stewart

Windows 95 Icons
Not the Superior 98/2000 icons
disgusting

Logan Price
Logan Price

What I'd really like to know, is why the Japanese autist is so interested in writing the kernel extensions.
Windows 2000/NT5 is still very popular in Japan, for a good reason, it was the last sane Windows GUI. It was also the last time things worked properly before all these meme UX designers came in and fucked everything up.

Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

How is that possible?

Carter Martinez
Carter Martinez

search bar embedded in start menu
Still shit.

Luke Hughes
Luke Hughes

Yeah, but what about the rest of the UI? What does Control Panel look like for instance?

Grayson Hall
Grayson Hall

The control panel in windows 10 can still be viewed in classic view. It has barely changed since win95 days.

Xavier Peterson
Xavier Peterson

he thinks UX designers are responsible for the abortion of modern Windows
not retarded middle management that slap things together in powerpoint

Juan Martinez
Juan Martinez

Reminder that ricing Windows has never been difficult (also, Windowblinds actually runs faster than MS's own skins):
stardock.com/products/windowblinds/

Lincoln Jones
Lincoln Jones

You can unhide your ~/Library/ folder and monkey with it to your heart's content of course. This is required to install certain components which don't have a proper installer, but they figure if you know what you're doing they're not going to actually stop you.

The way they handle this is kind of nice too, you can install most everything into either the /Library/ folder or your own private ~/Library/ folder if you don't want all user accounts to use some extension or library. Most people will never have to touch it of course.

Andrew Wood
Andrew Wood

No, it was dumbfucks like you who bought into Windows Vist- I mean 7.

Hunter Anderson
Hunter Anderson

All your plists are also kept in ~/Library.

A lot cleaner than spreading everything out in .config, .local/share, and just spread out on ~/ like a mess.

Hudson Gutierrez
Hudson Gutierrez

windowblinds

Nope. Tried it before. It's still a makeshift solution with compatibility issues. If you use Windows, you better put up with Microsoft's complete lack of taste.

Hunter Robinson
Hunter Robinson

Reminder that this was done because an early UNIX dev machine ran out of HDD space as the OS bloated beyond its boot volume's capacity, so they started jamming other folders full of OS components just to hack UNIX into fitting on their secondary and tertiary HDDs.

At least it's better than current versions of OSuX, which have broken both Kaleidoscope and Shapeshifter, in spite of Apple's regularly introducing random new app-specific themes that radically clash with each other whenever some internal hipster devteam gets a "cool" idea.

Julian Howard
Julian Howard

these aliased fonts
combined with jpeg compression
ugh, I feel like I stepped in a pile of shit

Oliver Russell
Oliver Russell

Won't someone kill this old=insecure myth already?

Except full retard. People have discovered that computer security is national security recently, and it keeps getting more important.

Windows XP didn't even separate privileges, running firefox on admin account was literally running firefox as root. Retarded.

As os's have aged they have come with new security features that are actually improvements. The architecture of old software is insecure.

All that is to say nothing of security fixes for errata that exists without back-ported security fixes.

Jackson Torres
Jackson Torres

Very original. Protip:you know jackshit about linux softwares.

Implying windows haven't broke driver ABI even among NT kernels too

Installing it still a pain in ass.

XP SP3 made it difficult. IDC about other versions.

Brayden Evans
Brayden Evans

tell glow i the dark cia niggers to fuck off with their backdoors

It's have at least a botnet for alexa, and since it's SP4, NSA can surf on your rig if they want.

Sebastian Stewart
Sebastian Stewart

Enjoy:
heise.de/tp/features/How-NSA-access-was-built-into-Windows-3444341.html

Luke Rogers
Luke Rogers

windows 10

Adrian Morgan
Adrian Morgan

why does no one ever talk about os2?
specifically MODERN OS2 arcanoae.com/ I really wanna use this but I can't find a torrent and if you think im paying for os2 ur fucking NUTS

this is basically my dream os tbh, it can run dos+win3.1 programs, I think win95 programs (not sure) and ofc all the os2 programs, plus modern shit that is being made for it.

Josiah Allen
Josiah Allen

pkgsrc has been ported to Tiger also

sevan.mit.edu/
pkgsrc.org/

Henry Gutierrez
Henry Gutierrez

I have felt for a long time that I should build some sort of windows 2000

Michael Carter
Michael Carter

meant to say some sort of windows 2000 rig

Landon Clark
Landon Clark

woman in tech
it's a tranny
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

Nicholas Morris
Nicholas Morris

OP makes a thread about old OS'
A thousand freetards jump on him with >'MMMMUUUUHHHH LLLIIINNNUUUXXXX! ooha beega we're da free programs at?'
Freetards truly are the niggers of computing

Ethan Taylor
Ethan Taylor

why does no one ever talk about arca os

Because it is a commercial product, there seems to be no torrent of it, and not many people are willing to spend $130 just to try a service pack for a mostly forgotten system from 20 years ago.

Jose Jackson
Jose Jackson

Even without any customization, and some very questionable recent decisions, macOS still has a much better interface than Windows, especially the flat abomination of Windows 10.

Jaxon Morris
Jaxon Morris

/g/index.html
/reddit/index.html
sage

Jack Robinson
Jack Robinson

Stop giving him (you)s.

Gabriel Garcia
Gabriel Garcia

10.7.5 is fucking great, im using it now on a black a1181. it runs wine and windows programs great, anything I can't run I can just boot into the windows 7 partition. early x86 osx was just as good, if not better due to more hardware support.
I would love to upgrade to 10.8 but apple has no 64x driver for the graphics on this specific computer.

ur gay if you dont edit shit to be the way you want it

anyway the MOST comfy os's are :
DOS6.22
Win 3-xp
os2
macos9 (best os ever made tbh no linux will ever come close)

if you want security go with hardware and software from at least 10 years ago

also to the linuxheads who think linux runs better than xp or 2000, I have an X41 running all 3, xp,2000, and linux. p much all linux distros are dropping support for 32bit, so there will soon be NO repos for any packages on linux for me, I have to use a multi year old version of network manager because any new version just breaks wifi totally. and the version that DOES work does not even show any networks unless i do a iwconfig command to specify a (any) ssid, after that the list of ssid's will load and I can connect. It will occasionally just turn off. this is not just an issue on that computer, I have a chromebook that will do something similar on linux, where the wifi will just stop working after a while and require a reboot to fix. this does not happen on either computer when running XP. Also windows is SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER on both computers vs linux, since it isnt a bloated garbagefire

the linux community is in shambles, wayland is a fucking joke ( I TRIED IT WITH PLASMA ITS GARBAGE) systemd is ruining and bloating everything, audio configuration is still insane (good luck specifying inputs and outputs on a built in mobo soundcard) p much everyone in open source, actually in the tech industry in general, is a fag or a communist or worse, they are directly causing the decay in quality software(probably deliberately since their religion is the worship of filth). anyone who even THINKS any "modern" OS is anywhere near as powerful or elegant as even the OLDEST usable os is fucking insane. 2000, OS9, OS2, those were the PEAK of perfection. improvements continued but the decay started there. xp had that fucking fisher price default theme, vista was the start of pejetsoft. sure windows 7 is a big improvement, so much that most people still use it, but then 8 came with more street shitter tech, than 10, I use 10 on my workstation computer since it is basically required. If you want to debotnet windows 10 you need to be a much more advanced user than the vast majority of people, its an OK os if you take multiple days to manually block everything, write your own reg keys, and do various fixes over time as more problems WILL arise later on. "MODERN" computers are so full of shit, its either pure S3 (STREET SHITTER SOFTWARE) (windows) or getting worse with every update (osx) or has no direction or goals besides destroying itself (linux)

at least funtoo is still good (FOR NOW)

Joshua Martinez
Joshua Martinez

Just install ubuntu ppc lol

Joshua Foster
Joshua Foster

Rate my operating system guys


BITS 16
start:
mov ax, 07C0h ; Set up 4K stack space after this bootloader
add ax, 288 ; (4096 + 512) / 16 bytes per paragraph
mov ss, ax
mov sp, 4096
mov ax, 07C0h ; Set data segment to where we're loaded
mov ds, ax
mov si, text_string ; Put string position into SI
call print_string ; Call our string-printing routine
jmp $ ; Jump here - infinite loop!
text_string db 'Anons kickass OS guaranteed to fuck your mother', 0
print_string: ; Routine: output string in SI to screen
mov ah, 0Eh ; int 10h 'print char' function
.repeat:
lodsb ; Get character from string
cmp al, 0
je .done ; If char is zero, end of string
int 10h ; Otherwise, print it
jmp .repeat
.done:
ret
times 510-($-$$) db 0 ; Pad remainder of boot sector with 0s
dw 0xAA55 ; The standard PC boot signature

Jaxon Jenkins
Jaxon Jenkins

Assembly bootloader
Get with the times grandpa, BIOS is so 80s. Everyone uses UEFI now with PE-based bootloaders written in C++

Brayden Allen
Brayden Allen

plz no bully;-;

Lincoln Bell
Lincoln Bell

are you going any further with it?

Aaron Kelly
Aaron Kelly

That's the plan, writing the entire kernel from scratch

Owen Allen
Owen Allen

ganbette!
also may I ask what are you writing it in? Assembly? C? Something else? lisp maybe?

Brayden Nelson
Brayden Nelson

hopefully it's all assembly. won't be very portable but man it would run like a champ.
very cool. keep us posted.

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

run Minix or a BSD then, they're lighter on CPU than Linux

Nathaniel Hill
Nathaniel Hill

Isn't that what MINIX turned out to be?

Easton Adams
Easton Adams

check out MikeOS. personally i don't like its internal architecture but it's a good starting point.

Aiden Barnes
Aiden Barnes

ArkOS is based on MikeOS.
github.com/JohnnyHobo/ArkOS

Needs a lot of improvement though, the kernel is pretty vulnerable and needs a few tweaks here and there, need to write some more syscalls, a C compiler, network stack, etc. but as it sits it's a fun little project.

Lincoln Walker
Lincoln Walker

Workbench is cozy. Wonder if anyone has made a Linux DE that tries to just be modernized Workbench.

Levi Scott
Levi Scott

i'm thinking the comfiest winblows is 7 Home Basic. It removes all the (((features))), and can have up to 8GB RAM which is still the max I need.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_chart
what i've been doing is:
1. download a recent fully patched winblows 7 image
2. run it for a few months
3. never waste time getting updates and shit
4. go to step 1
this is the second time someone reused one of my memes in the 12 years i've been channing :3

Jonathan Rivera
Jonathan Rivera

Aww shit user this was my first distro, ran it on a Compaq Presario 1240. Memories.

Liam Wood
Liam Wood

afraid of (((features)))
proceeds to download an image backdoored by chinks

Angel Rodriguez
Angel Rodriguez

ubuntu PPC is slow and unstable as shit.

If you wanted to match Tiger's speed on PPC you would have to go full gentoo and optimize everything.

Bentley Thompson
Bentley Thompson

Group Policy is an absolute must to turn off dumb shit like restarting for updates while active users are logged in and saving zone information (which is the cause of pic related on everything you save from the internet).

Jose Allen
Jose Allen

No desktop is comfy. An REPL in ROM is comfy, even if it's just BASIC.

Jayden Martinez
Jayden Martinez

oh shit it's megabaitshit the baitening
Windows XP didn't even separate privileges, running firefox on admin account was literally running firefox as root. Retarded.
there is no privilege separation in _any_ windows or Linux or mac you niggermonkey. if your machine gets owned the malware has access to everything you do from your file manager. the way you can spot Systems LARPers is when they believe running firefox as root or admin poses any additional risk to a desktop user
As os's have aged they have come with new security features that are actually improvements. The architecture of old software is insecure.
there have been no fundamental changes to arch of _any_ modern OS which improves security in any way. Maybe ALSR in modern Linux but that's only a tiny mitigation
all popular OS are insecure. of course if you run one with an unpatched publically announced RCE vuln you're going to get pwned a lot faster
this has nothing to do with security and all to do with spending an extra hour a day blasting through pointless goyware
yeah but i don't update my winblows boxen. i just assume they are pwned and install a new updated version every couple months to keep it from slowing down from all the accumulated cancer

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

What is that really cool icon set?

William Price
William Price

Must feel good being 14.

Samuel Peterson
Samuel Peterson

*-10

Christopher Cox
Christopher Cox

nice argument. this doesn't change the fact that you have no idea how permission models work. I'll rephrase again so your nigger brain might understand:
Exploiting an RCE vuln in the browser on _any_ Windows machine (3.1, ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10, ...) means you have access to everything the account running the browser has access to, which for 99.99999% of Windows desktop users, that would be everything. Even if it was only restricted to what the browser has access to, that would still be pretty much everything the guy uses, because anything they log into these days is through the web. Even if you have 2FA the compromised browser can still do anything since you granted it a session. Even if there is an action that requires reauthentication (such as re-entering the password), the browser can just rearrange to make it look legitimate and trick the user (who is clueless on this topic - like you - and has no idea these things exist) and will most likely fall for it.

Anthony Gonzalez
Anthony Gonzalez

Legacy software

Jayden Bennett
Jayden Bennett

tranny whoremoans actually do help with autism for some reason.

Gabriel Hernandez
Gabriel Hernandez

win2k
Fat32
You'll feel the warm glow of nostalgia when you're defragging it weekly.

Jace Jackson
Jace Jackson

I wasn't the person you initially replied to but anyhow, everything you've said is well understood and pretty simple. It was your speech on gnu/linux that is faulty. You have a skindeep familiarity with the topics at hand, pls refrain from trying to sound like an authority.

Jack Wilson
Jack Wilson

You reached the right conclusions by all the wrong reasons, but I'll take it.
I'm surprised there wasn't an open source continuation of Mac OS 9.2. Mac OS was truly the peak. I moved to 2000 once Apple switched and it was also nice, but I never touched OS2.

Is there somewhere with all the technical details for the classic Mac OS? I was a kid when I used it and never got to truly learn how it worked.

Isaac Bell
Isaac Bell

not missing it enough to make it yourself

Wyatt Moore
Wyatt Moore

Fat32

Benjamin Martinez
Benjamin Martinez

SSDs can defrag in seconds nowadays - you don’t even notice it.

Jaxon Perez
Jaxon Perez

Do you use chrome or why is your font rendering so terrible?

Tyler Rodriguez
Tyler Rodriguez

are you telling me you didn't just randomly move things around, delete prefences, extensions, control panels, fonts, apple menu items, and other crap in the "System" folder?
man, it was the easiest hacking ever
too bad OS X is completely dog shit for anything like that today
hold down Shift to disable extensions.
what extensions?
extensions made the computer awesome.

Ethan Gomez
Ethan Gomez

SSD's aren't supposed to be defragged anyways. There's no benefit and it just increases wear faster.

Eli Young
Eli Young

Yes, oh yes I did. I was just a kid but I remember modifying the Aaron extension that let you use the glorious Platinum UI style on pre-System 8 Mac OS and making my own graphical tweaks that way.

What I meant is that I didn't get to know the underlying architecture. For instance, to this day I have a very vague idea of what the data fork and the resource fork were, and no idea regarding the boot process, what kind of bootloader it had, etc. The fact that it didn't have a command line interface was like fucking magic to me.

James Ortiz
James Ortiz

What is that really cool icon set?

Landon Morales
Landon Morales

Mac OS snow leopard

Christian Ramirez
Christian Ramirez

this tbh

Liam Mitchell
Liam Mitchell

It bears mentioning that blackwingcat has drivers up to Kaby Lake and through to Quadro M6000 24 GB/Titan X (Maxwell).

I'm also laughing at those ITT who can't tell that their shitty themes don't look like the real deal with more than a cursory glance.

If one must use a Linux lookalike, then there's Q4OS with its XPQ4 theme pack.
amiwm

Connor Allen
Connor Allen

he said he's writing the entire kernel in scratch.

Camden Evans
Camden Evans

Windows 9x UI
XFCE
That's not how you spell icewm.

Jaxson Murphy
Jaxson Murphy

Good luck finding Windows 2000 icons.

Aaron Diaz
Aaron Diaz

icewm
Good taste here. Best EHWM compliant stacking WM.

Christopher Fisher
Christopher Fisher

All this desktop shit is where computers went wrong.

Oliver Walker
Oliver Walker

Mainframe larping faggots are the reason why le cloud exists. If it were not you, we wouldn't have none of that Plan 9, Go, blockchain, Amazon Droplets, etc. cancer right now.

Daniel Martin
Daniel Martin

Plan9

install 9front

Ryan Jackson
Ryan Jackson

mainframe
Wat? That's a terminal hooked up to a credit card reader that's running CP/M. It's got the same CPU as the home computer in this video.

Adrian Adams
Adrian Adams

Fake and gay

Camden Walker
Camden Walker

digital's aesthetics make me sweat diamond cum

Brandon Phillips
Brandon Phillips

macOS still has a better inteface than anything

Brandon Scott
Brandon Scott

only turbo autists prefer that shit aesthetic

Cooper Cook
Cooper Cook

only turbo autists browse Holla Forums

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

I recently installed Windows 2000+KernelEx 2.9b on my Thinkpad R40
Runs much better than any """""lightweight""""" looniks i tried on the Pentium M with 512mb RAM

Firefox ESR 52 with Classic Theme Restore plugin is amazing on the 4:3 display
The biggest problem i have currently is that i can't play MP4 videos, only webm works, and those aren't always available on hooktube

Sorry for picture quality my phone has autism

Jack Stewart
Jack Stewart

Dude, just install ReactOS

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

Can you post some details? I want to do this too.

Like this?
Intall Win2k, install SP4, install kernelex... is it that simple?

Josiah Thompson
Josiah Thompson

Last time i checked ReactOS was still in a very early stage of development
How is the performance and driver/program support on there?

Gavin King
Gavin King

Good enough to try it out.

Lucas Green
Lucas Green

Everything is pretty easy, this video was the most helpful for me:
youtu.be/9uDXtJqdcKM
I also used this site for some downloads but it misses some important steps:
danika.jukor.net/win2000.html

First of all, make sure your hardware has drivers that work with Windows 2000, an internet connection and graphics drivers are very important.
Installing windows+updates and setting up the kernel extension shouldn't be an issue if you follow the steps from the video.

I would recommend you to get a Win2k Pro .iso with SP4 preinstalled and burn it to a CD/DVD
Make sure to get the English version, otherwise your updates won't work.
Win2k does not support installation from USB, you will get a bluescreen if you try it.

Isos: winworldpc.com/product/windows-nt-2000/final
Iso i used: winworldpc.com/download/413ce280-9436-18c3-9a11-c3a4e284a2ef
Key i used with this iso: J4WH4-JXX2W-3FYM7-QJBB8-XKWD8
Keys for any version can be found online.

You will have to download KernelEx from here:
blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1299806.html (the link in the youtube desc is broken)
You'll need google translate because the site is in japanese, i didn't know what the most stable version is so I just picked the latest (2.9b English, gives an error message when opening an installer but everything still works anyway)

Firefox ESR 52 is the most modern browser you can use with KernelEx, if you don't like the chromestralis theme you can install Classic Theme Restorer add-on.
You can find lists of other 2k-compatible software with or without kernelex online.

Nathaniel Richardson
Nathaniel Richardson

/g/index.html

Dominic Phillips
Dominic Phillips

I hope you're just joking, OP

Adam Adams
Adam Adams

linux has superb software for software development
no good software gets actually developed for linux

Jacob Bell
Jacob Bell

XP was an ideal OS

Henry Baker
Henry Baker

Wine is fucking amazing, you cuck.

Isaiah Brooks
Isaiah Brooks

The Win32 API and NT driver model is stable enough that its trivial to allow modern drivers and software to run on them

You really can't say the same about Linux 2.4.x

James Hall
James Hall

->>807050
implying you can run obscure peripheral on anything other than exact version of OS
Specific hardware is irrelevant to choosing operating system, because no choice present in that case - you use what vendor says.

Liam Kelly
Liam Kelly

no good shrinkwrap software gets actually developepd for linux
Fixed.
If you plan to sell software to mass market, you make it for os most consumers already have, which mean win or osx.
But once you are making software solution for specific client, unices are much more widespread.