I have made a replacement political compass to the currently accepted model, as I feel the one we have now is not quite accurate. Instead of the left/right paradigm being defined by economic interest, I feel it is more accurately defined by either an embrace or rejection of egalitarianism or hierarchy. This is why I have made the economic axis is vertical.
If there's something I should change with it, then please tell me. I'll be happy to update it to make it more accurate.
It looks like the current one, but sideways. It's like I have to tilt my head 90 degrees to look at it.
Brayden Watson
I prefer a "social liberty" and "economic liberty" one.
Tyler Rogers
but that's not true. I have replaced the "authoritarian vs libertarian" axis with a "social egalitarianism vs social hierarchy" axis.
But that's inaccurate because it lumps an authoritarian regime like Nazi Germany with the USSR when these two ideologies are fundamentally opposed. My axis better differentiates the underlying motivations of each school of thought.
pic related is an updated version.
Liam Reed
Depends on what though. A 2D graph is always going to be an oversimplification.
Based just on their names, one would expect International Socialism and National Socialism to have a lot of things in common and o a lot of things be diametrically opposed.
Gavin Perez
why
Thomas Smith
Exactly, and this is represented far better in the graph made. Nazi Germany's economy is more controlled similar to, yet far less-so than the USSR, however the views on egalitarianism and the underlying motivating ideology is entirely difference.
So It's HD and I have more pixels to work with. I can decrease it if you want, but then each icon is less visible and defined.
Levi Martinez
Turn it around so that National Socialism is at the top This is annoying to look at And turn all the text so that it can be read without turning your head
Thomas Powell
But then it would be a "centrist" ideology, when in fact It's right-wing due to its rejection of egalitarianism, which I believe is far more relevant in determining the right-wing nature of an ideology rather than its economic view. You actually have to turn your head to read that?
Leo Bennett
are you retarded or something
Oliver Lewis
Anyone got a link to that other political chart? The one where you can pick your political policies for your fiction country.
Step 2: Find where the 'Release date' starts at 2016-10-31
Step 3: DIG DIG DIG
Step 4: Include a screenshot of the relevant bit and a link to the emails and why you think it's important.
Chase Carter
not sure, mate. Sorry
wrong thread?
John Hughes
One would think that perfect ideology is located at top right corner.
Instead you should had made
"more beneficial to a jew" -> "less beneficial to a jew" "more freedom to people" -> "less freedom to people"
Zachary Flores
This isn't really spreadable, nor is it easy to understand without a lot of background redpilling.
Luke Richardson
Fixed it for you, faggot.
Brody Diaz
so you basically did nothing except rotate it. Why? That makes nazism centrist, republicans left-wing, and democrats right-wing
Adam Thomas
It puts the nazis where they are on all other scales. up in the middle, slightly right.
Hunter Clark
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Tyler Perry
the point of my graph was to re-interpret the traditional model, which I said I considered incorrect.
I'm trying to represent National Socialism as a true right-wing ideology, which is better visualised in my model.
Jack Barnes
Fuck the haters OP, however you're missing Pinochet at the top right.
Lucas Nguyen
I'll add him
Tyler Lewis
Three axes, not two, dipshit.
Aaron Sanchez
That's still fucking retarded because it's only has authoritarianism vs libertarianism. The vertical axis should be hierarchy vs egalitarianism.
William Moore
Wheres the link so I can take the test and find out how right wing I am?
Nathan Brown
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Josiah Wright
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Jaxson Cox
The political compass is such a shitty meme. I've seen at least 10 legit variations of how the political compass 'should' be because it was real in their creators' minds. Why, for example, not make a 3D model instead of the 2D one? Why a 2D one in the first place?
Angel Torres
it's not a test for this particular graph. I made it myself in PS.
:^)
Wyatt Gray
it's an easy way to visualise differences in political though? I agree, though. A third axis measuring authoritarianism vs libertarianism would be good.
Levi Jenkins
Shit. Misspelled hierarchy.
Jason Butler
THAT IS THE VERTICAL AXIS, DIPSHIT.
Luke Lopez
Yes, but neither provable nor justifiably accurate. It should be a tool for dumbfuck normies to open their minds about how there's more than (((left))), (((center))) and (((right))), not for Holla Forumsacks (who by definition are far beyond entry-redpilled).
That being said, I'm not vehemently against it, I just don't see a good enough reason for yet another addition to the pile of the 9 quintillion already existing ones.
Sebastian Brown
Yes, but neither provable nor justifiably accurate. It should be a tool for dumbfuck normies to open their minds about how there's more than (((left))), (((center))) and (((right))), not for Holla Forumsacks (who by definition are far beyond entry-redpilled).
That being said, I'm not vehemently against it, I just don't see a good enough reason for yet another addition to the pile of the 9 quintillion already existing ones.
Anthony Campbell
That "compass" could hardly be more wrong if you tried.
Xavier Foster
Well nazis are centrists and republicans are left wing, so…
but really it just needs to be flipped horizontally.
Levi Hernandez
It's just weird, Nazism and Fascism have always been seen as radical centers (albeit a little bit to the right) and you just switched around the economy and organization axis.
Adam Parker
That graph really makes it hard to discern where National Socialism, Fascism, or even Communism would be. It's not really that flexible and some things don't really molt with it.
Republicans and Democrats are both left-wing, Democrats are just more egalitarian probably, so you really need more than two-axis regardless.
Kevin Russell
Where the fuck do you get off thinking communism is egalitarian? In theory, maybe. In practice, not a chance in hell.
John Turner
No it isn't, you fucking moron. The vertical axis is authoritarian vs libertarian. The difference needs to be based on whether it values hierarchy or egalitarianism.
I can easily justify my reasoning if you want.
what are you talking about? Nazism and fascism have always been seen as radical far-right
nice non-argument, dumbfuck.
No, nazis are right-wing, which I have visualised in my graph. The left/right is not defined by economic policy, which is exactly the point I'm trying to make. Flipping it in the way you suggest does nothing but make economic differences the dominant identifier between the left/right Hi Reddit
Liam Sanchez
Why don't you autists just rename the actual compass?
Right-wing economics and left-wing economics become free market economy and command economy.
Authoritarianism and libertarianism become social hierarchy and social egalitarianism.
All of that without flipping the compass so it becomes more edible for normies and slow people.
Pretty fucking simple, isn't it?
Thomas Ortiz
Why don't you stop Reddit spacing, my dude?
Jeremiah Collins
I'm just trying to figure our why you spaced
every
sentence
like
this Redditspacing is bullshit, but it's just awful formatting.
No, Nazism at least has been recognized as extreme centrism for ages. Ask anyone in this board.
Gavin Lewis
You really should be able to ban people for reddit-spacing.
Cooper Thomas
completely retarded. pic related
Is that why it's literally never called centrist/has never been identified as such? I've been on 8/pol/ since 2014 and on 4/pol/ before that, and I've never once encountered someone calling nazism "radical centrism" until now.
Joshua White
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Christian Ortiz
I get the awful spacing, but this meme was created by the CTR to suppress well formatted information, Also intentionally using this gay meme gets you a 7 week ban, enjoy.
Luis Fisher
It was created by freech. But it's still somewhat accurate. What's with the space in between the pointer and your text> No one here does that. At least they didn't before the exodus.
Xavier Stewart
I don't put too much stock in political spectrums. Trying to classify some world view like national socialism or fascism using vaguely defined terms like "left" or "right" isn't something I'm personally interested in. I understand labels and classifications can be useful, but I would avoid them in this instance.
It's also an excuse for lesser minds to make pseudo-evaluations of worldviews by saying they're left or right or whatever, without really looking further into the essence of that thing they are judging. See Sargon/gamergoy types who assert national socialists, fascists, reactionaries, and traditionalists are all the same as social justice warriors because they "are all just authoritarians, man."
Kind of like reviewing a video game and giving it a score to appraise it's quality, without really describing its content.
Jayden Stewart
it's really not, stop pushing this cancer.
like category, you divide them, its called being aesthetically pleasing
National Socialism and Nazism are different things for one, I apologize I'm slightly intoxicated. But even Nazism wasn't that radically "far-right". (whatever you define that as.)
It's such a brilliant fracture point between us because it's such a small thing, who the hell remembers? Everyone surely spaces different, nobody really paid that much attention to how others did it because it didn't really matter before.
Austin Cook
Yes it is, I've seen too many badly formatted posts.
>>>/cuckchan/ Virtually no one here did it before the cuckchan exodus.
GO BACK
James Taylor
According to Hitler and any of the NSDAP leadership they are neither left nor right, but a synthesis of the most positive qualities from the entire spectrum
Yes, thats right. The left-right dichotomy can mean anything anyone wants which is why conservatives and liberals both get so butthurt and flustered when talking about it, because they use different definitions.
Left-Right is one dimension, so it can only track a single political characteristic with any accuracy. The square can only track two.
If it's by economic views, commies are hard left, nazis are left of center, hardcore libertarianism or anarchy is hard right.
If it's by government control, commies (socialist gov't to be specific) and nazis are on the same side of the spectrum, which is why cuckservatives like to call National S O C I A L I S M (their emphasis) leftwing and why apolitical fucks like to bring up le Political Horshoe Theory
If it's by social hierarchy views, liberals are almost as hard left as true communists, fascists are fairly far right and literally everyone born before 1800 is even further right.
And so on. You'd probably need at least a 12D hypercube to accurately portray accurately real political worldviews.
Cameron Mitchell
It wasn't created by CTR, you fucking Redditor. It was created to identify idiots who put a line break after every sentence.
No one puts a space after the post number he's replying to except Redditors.
I'm currently making a three axis political compass with a scale for authoritarianism vs libertarianism along with egalitarian vs hierarchy and command economy vs free market to fix the issue you've outlined.
Hudson Reyes
a couple of weeks ago there was a thread to monitor the log on this board, a couple of mods came cracking down on banning anyone spouting this gay trend.
it's a terrible fate to witness cancer whenever you look at your own post.
Virtually no one here uses this forced, gay reddit meme, better yet use the word "Virtually" this is not youtube.
links to a prehistoric archive from a time you aren't familiar of because you're either new, a shitpost cancerous failure trying to troll for the first time, a redditor or CTR, I think we all know where you came from.
Jackson Wilson
It was created to identify idiots irony
Brody Carter
Breaking up text needlessly is fucking retarded, and it needs to stop. End of.
It's much easier just to say 'hi I'm from reddit'.
Stop being pedantic. I know it's a fucking archive. Of fucking halfchan. And I know this was before Holla Forums harbour, so notice the lack of retarded spacing. However, you should be aware that we have developed our own board culture over here, so we're not just a copy of old halfchan.
Stop embarrassing yourself. You can act like one of us, but we can smell you from miles away.
Charles Fisher
woah! all that tl;dr effort just to push a cancerous, lazy CTR meme, i'm amused.
Hello fellow 8channers look at my aesthetically pleasing non-reddit spacing meme practice! that will show those redditcucks!
+1 additional shekel has been added to your CTR bank account in tel aviv.
Joseph Moore
fuck off.
Jaxon Hughes
He's right, you know. We can smell your kind from a mile away.
Nolan Wood
WE
you should probably buy a new VPN, it's letting you down with depressing delays, how on earth are you suppose to shill at such terrible frequency, newfriend?
Justin Thompson
Everyone knows the conversion rate per post is like 0.30 shekels.
David Smith
samefag
Daniel Hill
The newfag exposes himself even further as he grows ever more nervous that he will be found out.
Worry no more, newfriend. You have already been found out.
Kayden Nelson
Friendly reminder that this is consensus cracking 101
Owen Wood
nice try but this is obviously not a vpn being used, you see nobody does that :^)
Jaxson Nelson
moron.
Redditors. Every fucking time.
Brody Howard
CTRhurt
Kayden Hall
LEL.
Jayden Rivera
Why on earth would I be CTR? What am I derailing? Shouldn't I be in a Trump thread doing this? If I was a shill, I'd be JIDF, since I'd appear to be derailing a discussion on whether NatSoc is right wing or not, but even that's small fry. You can't just yell 'CTR!' when you don't like someone. You have to apply logic. Now fuck off back to reddit.
Hunter Ramirez
the act's up, redditcuck. You're fooling no-one but yourself. lmao.
Isaiah Myers
rip post, killed by shitty, compressed and badly formatted text all conjoined together to look like a mountain of shit.
you're getting sodomized so hard you have to use VPN, oh baby, also nice tl;dr
Landon Sullivan
Senseless shit flinging or shilling, either or, stop. Check my dubs.
Robert Ward
So much reddit in this post.
The point needs to be made. I'm not letting newfags shit up this board. I'll check your dubs, if you check mine.
Austin Perry
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Oliver Richardson
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Lucas Morales
Nice reddit spacing
Alexander Torres
pic related: my reaction to you being such an embarrassment.
Topkek. I'm guessing you're also an asshurt Redditcuck based on how you're rushing to defend this faggot. Insulting your people's trash formatting really does bring you out of the woodworks.
Ian Bailey
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Noah Cook
holyshit my sides, get a load of this retard.
Jaxson Gomez
So you admit it now? Lovely.
I have better things to do, redditcuck has outed himself so I'll leave you with my final sage.
Parker Taylor
I don't need to admit that you're getting raped, its pretty much transparent at this point.
In other words, you lost and ended up exposing yourself as a bigger newfag, this is not how trolling works.
