/Pol, in all of our great threads and this most monumentous time, I just wanna take a second and ask a quick question

/Pol, in all of our great threads and this most monumentous time, I just wanna take a second and ask a quick question.

Where did Hitler go WRONG?

Not what he did wrong, but what decisions could militarily could he have done to win?

Not ally with Japan? Or Italy?

Not delay his decision to invade the USSR?

Make more U-boats instead of a fleet?

Not issue Furhur Order 33?

Send more men to Rommel?

It's clear in 1943, Hitler was losing. In 1933, Germany was poor as fuck, a rabble nation with a new leader. In 1941, Hitler was winning.

So, what happened in the inter-year era of 1941 to 1943, besides Stalingrad and El Alamein?

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inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2016/volume_8/number_1/victories_of_revisionism_cont.php
therarestblue.com/jewish-atomic-spies
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/World_War_II_in_Europe,_1942.svg
chris-intel-corner.blogspot.ie/2012/07/wwii-myths-t-34-best-tank-of-war.html
rbth.com/business/2015/05/08/allies_gave_soviets_130_billion_under_lend-lease_45879.html
historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Basically, WWYD?

And, no hindsight 20/20. Think realistically, Hitler was a genius and ahead of his time, even now we're breaking down his philosophy.

My answer? Repatriate Poland.

He should have never invaded russia until he defeaded the UK

Nothing. He was an enemy to my country, America, and we would have nuked his kraut ass along with the japs.

Get a better hero, Holla Forums

Maybe played out the war completly defensively? Very ungerman though.

meh


That's pretty much it.

Impossible after he allowed troops to escape at Dunkirk (300,000) as a token gesture for friendliness towards England.

Furthermore, he switched targets from Military to Civilian bombing. So, the RAF was not destroyed.

Lastly, British radar was so primitive, it wasn't even bombed as it was not recognized as radar allowing air units to be spotted crossing the channel.

In various war games, it has been deemed impossible to capture England.

Perhaps, a swift destruction of the British Army at Dunkirk, followed by IMMEDIATE air and port bombings and dropping of paratroopers into the countryside for guerrilla warfare and a small invasion fleet, with the mere hope of a mere success.

Pearl Harbor for fuck's sake. Jesus. Read a book or something.

Israel didn't exist at the time, Moishe

Impossible. Blitzkrieg allowed the massive advantage he had in the first place. The allies would invade by 1943 and the USSR by 1944 the latest.

Ukraine wouldn't be loyal to him necessarily, as weren't the Finns but I think that is the first really good idea I've heard so far.

Leave. Please. Now.

You are a complete fucking moron. Gas yourself.

its simple, he shouldnt have fucked around with stupid train guns and silly inventions, he should have gotten his scientists to focus on building an Atom bomb and long range bomber aircraft that can payload them anywhere, boom, drop a couple, one on russian capital, one somewhere in europe, maybe near london, and watch the surrenders fly in.

Ucle Adolf was to kind.
He was a peacemakers while other wanted war.

fucking retards. so fucking retarded.

Hitler's wobbly knees finalyl gave as he fell to the floor. he placed the gun in his mouth like a black penis of justice, his mustache brushing the barrel. tears streamed down his face as he thought to himself, " I was wrong about everything I ever believed in. I am a failure."

The last sound made by Adolf Hitler was the sound of his bowels evacuating his dead body.

Faggot.

Probably the only hope was to retune the occupation of France to speed along Petain's nationalist restoration. France standing with Germany might have been able to fend off American and Russian aggression, but otherwise it was impossible from the beginning for Germany to win against the combined Zionist Allies.

The only other possibility would be reaching nukes in time to start the MAD era early, and even that probably wouldn't have been enough. The Zionists would have gladly had millions glassed until whatever arsenal Germany had built was depleted.

Please REMEMBER: THE WAR WAS LOST BY 1943, THIS IS FOR PRE-1943 DECISIONS, THANK YOU

ur dur american pride

Filtered.
Actually, he lose the battle, the war is still ongoing.

invading Poland and later USSR was pretty dumb, he should have focused developing Germany

In my opinion? He should have focused his ambitions inward instead of outward. Removed dreidel and concentrated on making Germany as strong and as perfect as he could before attempting to take new ground.

Oy vey! You are one grumpy kike. Forgot your bagel this morning?

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Japan was just firebombed massively. You really think if atomic bombs/nukes exist that one hasn't been used again?

I hope you get what you want in life, so you can hate it.

It was impossible not to invade the USSR.

Impossible. All of Judea declared war on Germany, London to New York to Moscow.

Why does everyone who thinks Hitler sucked have to be a kike. I'd be like any white American from the time. He was an enemy to my country, shoot his men. Burn his dream. USA

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Clearly declaring war on the world's industrial superpower was Hitler's masterstroke.
You fucking idiots.

Except you're not, at least when it's convenient or not.

I guess I'll take the bait.
Hitler gave no fucks about the United State's business and he asked for the same from the US.
A pattern of US intervention that has continued to this day was started.
American isn't an ethnicity, faggot.

You seem to be under the impression that Hitler started the war. The Rothschilds started the war when the German central bank was removed from their control. Removing dreidel is an act of war. Peace was never an option in the minds of the Zionists.


Both were preempting Soviet aggression. Invading "Poland" was coming to the aid of ethnic Germans in lands ceded by the extortion of WW1 treaties and in danger of becoming Soviet territory. By that point the Zionists had made their stance clear as well.

Eating the propaganda like a good goy?

Sage for shit thread

War happened, which forced winners and losers. No matter whose fault it was, the world wasn't ready. Technology wasn't there yet to break the cycle of civilizations.

Forgot one very important thing:

That man spent more time shopping than caring about them planes.

sage

Where did all the gibs come from? Where did Hitler and his fancy movies and promotion come from? The roads, the cars? Can a man work such miracles?

Should never have declared war on America

GET THE FUCK OUT REDDITOR

You dumb son of a bitch. Hitler had nothing to do with Japan's surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. That was between the Emperor and FDR. Learn the basics of WWII before you come here and make retarded statements you insufferable plebeian.

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Loser

because you are a kike

My thinking is that there needed to be a buffer state between the USSR and Germany for a defensive war.

Hitler was incapable of launching a war against the USSR without oil, this is fact and he relied on Romania's oil fields which were subject to be bombed, hence the Southern Campaign to rid the USSR of it's Baku oil fields in Azerbaijan and secure the Romanian fields from air bombing.

The United States had the 14th strongest military at the start of WW2 and wasn't ready for a war even into 1944, with it's divisions, army and air significantly behind Germany's. It was the combined losses and fronts which allowed easy victory for WW2 for the USA.


First good answer.

My belief is that order 33, to re-direct divisions for Moscow is what caused failure of the Eastern front.

Operation Barbarossa was the greatest military victory of all time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa

The only thing that Hitler did wrong was to be too kind to Britain. He held back a lot during the war simply because he loved Europe.

Born in an universe where anglos, ruinators of everything and greatest ally of the jew, exist.

What allies did to Germany was so retarded, it's still trolling OTHER anglos to this day, because now they live in a world full of subhumans.

Because your forefathers castrated them in order to heal the world from "evil naziism".

But I know that modern Brits know this, everybody is suffering from the plague now.

So maybe next time there won't be a brother war.

Hitler could have done nothing better or worse. Anglos existed. Anglos were in jew pockets, Anglos were more numerous, Anglos incited the war, Anglos ruined the west.

That's just a matter of fact. Nothing personal. This was before your time, dear uncucked Anglo who might be reading this. I have no hard feelings.

Declaring war on the USA as a result of it was his decision - as was allying with the nips in the first place.

Yes but that's after 1943.

absolute cancer

The Zionists in control of the US were so eager for war that they allowed the Japanese to carry out a "surprise attack". Peace was never an option for the Nationalist Axis, because the globalist machinery was all turned against them.

sage

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Lies. This Germany you Germanic mutts long for is a lie.

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My country spanked the japs for supporting Hitler, and gave them all kind of psychological complexes that led to the creation of anime. America is responsible for Anime.

This is high school knowledge, user. Hitler knew if he didn't invade, Stalin would. Same goes for Stalin: he knew he'd have to attack or be attacked. Stalin was building weapons, and Hitler had battles elsewhere, so if either attacked too soon they'd lose, but if Hitler attacked too late the Soviets would be fully equipped. Add that to their numbers and victory would be impossible.

Germany could have attacked the USSR before the war on the West, but the thing is that's precisely what England and France wanted. Germany and the USSR would beat each other almost to death and then taking over the two would be a walk in the park. Hitler was either keen to the plan or plain lucky, but, as you know, he didn't fall for it.

It was possible to solve everything diplomatically.
He fell for the British D&C tactics and his own hate for communists.

USSR couldn't be won, no matter what. Even if he took Moscow and killed Stalin, USSR would not fall.

National socialism is bad.

That's why my great nation that deserves only the best things had to fight you.

Only by sheer coincidence am I waiting for Trump now, who is nationalistic and wants to put us first. Man, that's so great.

But fuck nazis, man.

t. jew pretending to be a burger.

he should have used the slavs in eastern europe more effectively
the war in the east should have been fought by slavs not germans

Hitler was weak in this sense.
He believed the English to be people just like the Germans, that's why he didn't want to blitzkrieg them to oblivion like he did with France and Poland. Somehow he forgot that the (((not people))) were the ones calling the shots.

Some anons here will not want to admit it, but he was emotionally weak for not invading the UK like he invaded France. He had absolute and total control of air space, which I think then, also meant total control of the water.

He didn't win the war, not because he couldn't militarily, he couldn't emotionally

Please leave Britcuck. You are no American.

Nationalism precluded a diplomatic solution, the Zionist Allies never had any intention of allowing Italy, Germany and Japan to remain as strong ethnostates.

There can be no peace until every last Semite, communist, and race traitor is eradicated from this planet. Until then we will be locked in an eternal war for the future.

Get the fuck out of here you god damned kike. You'll hang with your tribe on DOTR, filthy yid.

the all the anons calling for not invading ussr
war between them was going to happen, if hitler waited stalin would have invaded europe, part of the reason for the success of operation barbarossa was the luftwaffe overrunning soviet airforces before they could take off

as to improvements on strategy
obviously fuck up the english at dunkirk
fuck up the english islands in the med, so rommels forces could be properly reinforced, this could be accomplished by taking more direct control of italys forces, look up how retarded they were in the blockade of malta
as to russia allow for strategic retreat, let the soviets advance into conquered territory and then strike at their supply lines and finish of their army, hitler allowed for no retreat, this was foolish

but lets not forget wwII was won in the american industries, without us aid the ussr would have fallen, so the biggest improvement the nazis could have made was sent agents and lobbyist to the usa, but they vastly underestimated how zionist occupied the us was even in 1940

I wish I could voluntarily disclose my posting history.

Or did I make things too hard to understand by not including the quote of the guy I roleplayed as?

really, i should have taken this to /k

My mistake.

Jews are the only reason your country entered the war. Way to buy into the propaganda. Now fucking kill yourself and get the fuck off this board race traitor.

Actually, he wanted peace with the U.S. & made many overtures to us. It was the Japanese that dragged Germany into war with us, as when Japan attacked us & we declared war on them, Germany…as their ally…was pretty much required to declare war on us.
If they had not allied with Japan, things COULD have turned out differently, but given the real powers behind the various sell-out governments of the west, probably not.
Americans in general wanted nothing to do with the European wars, both WW1 & WW2…but through the use of propaganda and government cronyism, we were dragged into it all, anyway.

As a polack, I can't help but despise Hitler and Stalin for what they did to Poland. Claiming that Poles killed Germans because of muh xenophobia, while Poland was one of the most tolerant country in the world, stupid as fuck.
But still, Hitler was straight forward about what he wanted : reclaim the Lebensraum and kill subhumans.
While Stalin was a sneaky bastard : i'm going to free europe ! btw poland is communist do not worry hahaha

Newfag normie

The post

It was the Zionists in control of the US government who provided material support to the other Zionist nations, as well as pressuring Japan in the Pacific and then allowing Pearl Harbor to occur as an excuse for war. The US was going to war with Germany, it was decided from the moment that Hitler rebelled against the central banking cartel.

Lay the blame where it properly belongs, Semites and race traitors.

stopped advancement of atom bomb

Hitler did nothing wrong. The war is not over.

Germany is a occupied country that never surrendered, cool as fuck

Even that might not have been a mistake, depending on the projected timetable for completion of various efforts. A single, combat operational "UFO" would have been worth more than all the nukes in the world. A nuke today does no good when a UFO shows up to kill you yesterday.

It really depends on how far along the superspectrum projects were in comparison to the nuclear project. Considering the Germans were far more inclined to folk tradition, there's a good chance they were on the cusp of taking magic even farther than we have. If there seemed to be any deficiency in their method, it was that the power of mass consciousness hadn't been fully realized in that era. Understanding that key has been the linchpin for the success of US efforts to cover up superspectrum activities.

The US was at war with both Germany and Japan long before official war was ever declared

there is no usa
you are still a colony of the british empire
the brits are behind everything

WW2 is where that relationship truly switched, the Zionists packed their bags and moved away from Europe. The deal was sealed when the Brits tried to back out of their support for the creation of Israel after watching Zionists slaughter entire cities of Palestinians. The kikes killed some of the British officers that had been attached to their forces as support and then called on American contacts to finish the job. And that's how the US became Israel's greatest ally as well as king bitch of the Zionist nations.

I just want to remind everyone that the people shitting on Hitler come from TRS

I'm honestly convinced that "reddit spacing" is some D&C shill shit. I admit that it's bad formatting but I did this before this even became a term and had to figure out what the fuck it even means since I never posted there.

Hehe, perhaps.

It happens. The jews have done so many heinous things, it's natural to be frothing at the mouth about them.


It's a tragedy, but there is truth to the following statement, after all:
You enemy will love treason against you, but never the traitors who commit it.

It stands to reason, too.
If you are capable of betraying your own, how trustworthy are you when it comes to someone else?
Not very.

But, again, the pendulum has been swinging back. People have been waking up.
Lügenpresse is mainstream terminology.

Trump (even with his jewish affiliations) is rightfully hailed and sought after.

Antisemitism is on the rise, et cetera.

And this time we all saw our countries degrade togher.
There is still separation (which is okay, a lot of us are national socialists or white supremacists, but at the end of the day we really mean our own ethnicities. Britain for the Britons. America for the Burgers. France for the French, etc), and even some D&C (not so okay, but expectable.)

All in all I am quite hopeful. The brother wars will end eventually and the kikes will either be banished or purged for good.

We're all gonna make it. I am quite sure about that.

I once had a comrade,
You will find no better.
The drum called to battle,
He walked at my side,
In the same pace and step.

A bullet came flying,
Is my turn or yours?
He was swept away,
He lies at my feet,
As if it were a part of me.

He still reaches out his hand to me,
While I am about to reload.
I cannot hold onto your hand,
Rest you in eternal life,
My good comrade.


It is. /polmeta/, more like /polmetastasis/ is a den of evil.

Should have allied with everybody in time so that the takeout of the (((banks))) could happen without other retards shoving their noses in.

The only people who bitch about the meta board are TRS cucks

>>>/polmeta/12189
>>>/trs/

It is, variant formatting has been rampant forever. Might as well just start calling people out for speaking in English because it's the language used by most Zionists, globalists, and commie scum.


Britain for Britons, France for the French, that's all great, but I have no idea what we are going to do as Americans. Those of us on the extreme end basically want NA carved up into European colonies again, but at the same time true bloodline purity is all but impossible. On the other end are those who want to repeat the same follies as the founding with Enlightenment liberal ideology enshrined in a constitution. It's a pretty hopeless country to me.

Nice try, kike

Nice try, kike

You mean ex TRS cucks.

archive.fo/WnhOG
Etc. fuck off and don't get CFs cum into your windpipe when you're sucking him off, again.
Filtered.


Greater America. Purity is difficult, but getting rid of all the subhuman dreck is most important.

Everything else will fall into place then.
Just imagine going outside and not a nigger in sight.
Can't you just see the leaps of joy in your minds eye?

Amusingly enough, that propaganda can be reposted without change. Christcucks betrayed Germany by voting against Hitler, and again when the cuckstians of the world followed their Semitic masters to war against Germany. Not in two thousand years has a single good deed been done in the name of that Semite Yeshua. All that has been good in this world has been done in the name of race and nation.

All christcucks are race traitors.


I shudder at the thought

If there is one thing Hitler could have done better, is not establish an invasion of Russia, but rather create a defensive barrier around Poland and leading back into Germany.

He should have also blockaded the UK and crippled them.

Also use bio warfare to kill crops.

Even at white America?

High trust. High IQ. No more marxism. No special snowflakes. Perhaps even a new currency.
Granted, it would take a decade or two until going back to better times/education will show its full effects.

But if the cleansing were to happen soon then you'd be very likely to spend your old age in true peace.

It's dreamy and idealistic, but Hitler was a dreamer, too.

Myth.

German intelligence wasn't aware that an evacuation was taking place until it was too late.

Hitler didn't "let" them escape because he didn't know they were escaping.

David Irving discovered this; he found documents detailing an investigation after the fact of exactly when intelligence first found out.

Also, Hitler gave a battle order calling for the total destruction of the forces at the Dunkirk. Not capture, not surrounding them and negotiating a surrender: total destruction. The myth of Hitler's "friendly gesture" towards the Brits is just that, a myth.

I meant that more because I'm a hikki. If I wanted to spend my old age in peace, I could probably just ride out the dying of this civilization. Instead I shall have to pursue nobility by participating in the restoration.

I wouldnt fuck with russia period, let alone on their home turf. I wouldn't drive out 50% of the nations scientists and waste resources on a civilian focused mass extermination program based off of failed American eugenics programs.


As a shekel-snake myself, i can think.of at least 2 ways hitler could have used us jews for militaristic goals. Nazis were masters of deception and propaganda, they could have sent us all to israel over a decade long campaign and wiped us all out in a single v-2 volley, after making us develop their technologies and train the aryans.

Hell, for an entire decade he could have forced us to do what we do best (handle money. ) only to kill us once our relevant knowledge and skills had transferred over to the Aryans, and resulted in a net-increase of german wealth and production. As a financial and militaristic super power, germany would have been unstoppable.

These are all just off-the-cuff thoughts. Its been a decade since i last took a serious dive into Hitler's military career and policies. The man had many redeeming qualities, and some great solutions…but like most politicians he was driven by ego and was wasteful with his resources.

Oy vey! Goy magic strikes again.
inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2016/volume_8/number_1/victories_of_revisionism_cont.php

The issue with Russia is that it was preparing for war already. For Hitler to go against them was almost certainly a losing battle but had those seemingly pointless massacres on eastern front not occurred, the cold war would be radically different, leaving the Soviet army at it's full might.

It was Stalin's plan to strike westward while they were fighting the French, but the swiftness of that action took him by surprise.
In either case, Hitler was in a tough spot when he set his eyes on Poland. Arguably, even with Czechoslovakia.

Many argue that going that far east was a mistake. While there were certainly blunders, the general thought and refusal to retreat was not a mistake. Every forced retread they made got them into even worse position. It's either to fight on Russian territory, or to fight on your own, with your factories being within bomber range.

The germans fucked up by not maintaining maneuver warfare control over territories where they already had logistics and infrastructure. Never, ever, ever use a maneuver warfare army as a siege/occupation army.

The thing is, by 1939 USSR was purged from the zionist influence and there was a solid chance of Stalin and Hitler expanding their alliance.
It was the Brits, who perpetrated D&C, instilled paranoia into Hitler and Stalin and tricked them into amassing troops on the borders.

Hitler attacking was a fuckhuge mistake and he understood that too late. Russia was weak initially, but they had an inhuman will to fight. They build up DURING the war, which only happened once before in the whole history, when they whooped Napoleon's ass.
If you listen to his talk with Mannerheim, Hitler said that they already destroyed 23,000 Soviet tanks and if anyone told him before the war, that a country could have 23,000 tanks he would call them crazy.

Basically he could've saved the world if he concentrated on building closer relations with Stalin and finding common interests (which were many by the way).

Uh, no. Pretty sure the Russians "beat" Napoleon by burning everything, sending farmers armed with pitchforks against riflemen, and because attrition to his forces prevented him from annihilating the Russians at Borodino.

That's how Russians fight. Attrition, guerilla warfare, building up during the war, rush tactics.

By mid-1942 Germany was done, because there were huge factories built from scratch in Siberia, where people lived on bread and water and built tanks, planes and artillery 24/7.
By the time 1 Jagdpanther was build in Germany, 30 T-34s were built in Siberia.

All while the Wehrmacht was struggling to control the parts they occupied and maintain supply lines to the front lines, because a good chunk of the population went innawoods and were bombing trains, sniping officers, poisoning the provisions and killing anyone collaborating with the Germans.


Basically imagine industrialist Afghanistan with 50 times the size.
That's Russia.

"no"

The Soviet Union wouldn't survived 1942 if it weren't for America backrupting the British to pay for Communist handouts, to the incredible extent that Patton was ready, willing, able to collapse their entire supply chain and be in Moscow by the end of 1945 if he were allowed to attack.

Also, no. That wasn't the "population", who received the Germans with open arms as liberators, particularly in Ukraine following the Judeo-Bolshevik genocide, but the NKVD leading such brave resistance as murdering their own people and blaming it on the Germans.

America started baying up when it became apparent that they will win.
US, controlled by the kike shadow government didn't do shit when it mattered. They even considered arming Hitler, because it wouldn't matter who wins, the main goal was to destroy both, since they both were dangerous for the international banking cabal and to put Europe into slavery using the Marshall plan.
Russians acquiring nukes stopped them from starting a new war planned for 1951.

US are just kikes, trying to play both sides. They didn't do shit for the USSR.

No. Anyone who did give a German as much as a loaf of bread, was executed, either during the war or after the war.

Ukraine doesn't exist, it's a jewish invention.

Please contain your Slavophila to the Putin threads. Arguably Germany's height in the war was in 1942, when Sevastopol, a fortress city, fell as part of Operation Blue. Unfortunately, Lendlease began in late June 1941, after it had been demonstrated that not even the sacred T-34s proved a strategic threat to the Germans.

By the NKVD.

So's Russia, goy. More than half it's landmass is varying shades of non-White.

Also, Russia's atomic spies were predominantly Jewish.
therarestblue.com/jewish-atomic-spies

I get the feeling your "international banking cabal" is missing a certain (((element))).

No, the height was in September of 1941, when it was apparent, that the Blitzkrieg has failed and the war will drag on into the winter.
Conveniently in November Pearl Harbor attack happened and US joined the war on USSR side.

It's not about T-34 being superior, it's about them being cheap. It was a just huge cannon strapped to an agile chassis. And yes, they already broke the German tank dominance, because while being inferior to any German tank they were numerous and agile enough to bring Germans to a halt on the strategic scale.

NKVD stopped existing in 1941 and it's key people executed. They were actually executed by the partisans during the war and by the MGB after the war.

You have 0 knowledge about the WW2 history, go read some books and come back, then we will talk.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/World_War_II_in_Europe,_1942.svg
Hmm.

chris-intel-corner.blogspot.ie/2012/07/wwii-myths-t-34-best-tank-of-war.html

I believe that was the winter, and the lack of German provisioning for campaigning in the winter due to the delays in actually going to war - mopping up the Italian's mess in Malta and needing to secure the entire Balkans to protect the southern flank of a continent wide invasion.

Sources: none.

Don't you mean the "Great Patriotic War"?

Literally any history book is the source.

NKVD was taken apart after the great purges. In 1941 NKVD was reformed, it was divided into SMERSH, NKGB, GUGB and GRU. They were further reformed in 1946, with NKGB and GUGB joining into MGB.
You are only proving your ignorance.

Come on, m8, you are making an ass out of yourself. You ignorance is beyond even school history level.

Thanks for proving the point. If you're going to play semantics, I can do it too.

Very strange claim to be making when you've failed to prove any of your claims, and refused to address any of the sources re: the original argument, lendlease

Here's some more, too:
rbth.com/business/2015/05/08/allies_gave_soviets_130_billion_under_lend-lease_45879.html
historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm