Looking for information on Free Masons

Those are Jesuit lies.

I think this pretty much sums it all. "Big three" that was opposed by National Socialists in Germany, and basically seen almost united: Judaism, Freemasonry and Bolshevism

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The question is, why do we have to tolerate them? Why not just end them? Would be much more fun if you ask me.

Thanks

I had no idea how jewy it was. I'd like to understand it at a deeper level. It sounds more and more like a Christian branch of Scientology. Any links to info is what I'm looking for, any help? Please.

Hitler banned them all, for good reason.

Valuable information, thank you for posting.

Just a PC name for the kike.

I think the first thing you have to understand about freemasonry is the context and conditions under which it was born (e.g. medieval trade guilds).

The book Freemasonry For Dummies is the best thing an American could read. It covers damn near everything.
You might not want to bother with Morals and Dogma until you've read the rituals for the A&AR in the USA south, because it's just a commentary on them (in very old language, too).
youtube.com/channel/UCvUkl9eiDLPtd6SWom413mQ
Those should help illuminate you as well.

That's the first three degrees. 33rd is about bullshit like abstract truth.

Why not? Traditional nationalists are normally popular here.

It takes much of time to learn about them, even years. It's a puzzle you need to build over and over again. It's not just for fun they have 33 degrees. But feel free to ask any specific questions about them, I've been making my own research for couple of years now.

Picture little bit related, that creature is wearing masonic apron between its legs.

Thank you, I'm going to buy that book right now. I appreciate the info.

Actually, it kind of is. Like yes, it was structured around the life of Christ, but the system you're referring to was 25 degrees, but it was out of control as regards who was a member, so they added some more, and put a more rigid structure of conferral in place. They had to add the extra degrees to make it a more "valuable product." There's a good history of it all in the Southern Jurisdiction Ritual Monitor, assuming you don't want to go digging through Morris and Hoyas' work.

According to Ambrose Pierce, the freemasons liked to "steal valor" from different types of symbols just to heighten their own mysticism. For example, if new archeological discoveries were found in some pyramid in Egypt, the freemasons would be quick to make it seem as if "they had some connection with these symbols".

Then why not just create a nationalist movement? Whats the point of an organization that in its core policies requires belief in one abrahamitic god rather than on ethnicity? I'm not going to let some rich niggers in a cult decide the future of my children, if you think that.

Author of that book became a Freemason in 1998, and is a 33rd degree (highest!) Scottish Rite Mason in the Valley of Indianapolis. He is memeber in Master of Lodge Vitruvian No. 767. I personally doubt you learn anything valuable at that book, it's just pro-mason propaganda.

Interesting, any examples?
Because it's more than that. It's a philosophical and scientific society, so traditionalism and nationalism are by-products.
That isn't a requirement, and the idea is that anyone can try and better themselves. We're all equal in opportunity, just not ability.

What is freemasonry's relationship with Protestantism?

You sound as bad as the Satanist kikes here trying to lie and slither around what they are truly about.

This tbh.

Believe what you will. Truth will out.

The US president had to drop the nuclear bom on Japan to move from 32 to 33.

What on earth do your "Uncle" do?

Also my dad works at Nintendo.

As if those in league with the Synagogue of Satan would know anything of truth.

Nothing?

What would you expect it to say? It's a book about Freemasonry, written by a Freemason.
I guess if you're super paranoid you could call it propaganda, but really it just explains some of the history, and stuff like why we wear tuxedos and regalia.
False. It's just an admin position or honourific in the A&AR, not Freemasonry.

Again, believe what you will. Your accusations are baseless.

Many protestant reformers were connected to masonry, and many modern day protestant priests, bishops and so on are still masons. But it's not like members of catholic church wouldn't be part in secret societies, actually it seems to be impossible to find religious group that isn't very deep in that shit. At least any semitic religious group.

It is pretty much impossible for someone so deeply invested in an organization as to attain one of its highest ranks and not be a little biased about how they present that organization. Ergo it's pretty logical to call a book written by such a man propaganda considering the definition of the word. Your sophistry is not going to convince many people around here.

Ah yes it is all about tea parties and higher truth I see you are well versed in subterfuge.

mhm

This is true, freemasonry is jewish to the core.

I don't like influential organizations that run my nation behind my back without transparency.

Not familiar with Hodepp, huh? He shit talks Grand Lodges and the Supreme Councils all the time. He's like Masonic Al Jazeera.
But either way, you must not have read the book, because it's not even selling Masonry like Morris' version. It's just a bunch of descriptors as found in the USA. Also, your conception of "ranks" is wrong. He has the honourific of 33rd, yes, but it's not like that gives him any powers or shit.

So Freemasons are fine in your book?

Foreign films are fore foreign people. I almost died of boredom reading subtitles.

Ok, i'm sorry, but right now I just think you're a shill. Enjoy those $0.05 per post tho.

You must be talking about Jewish nationalism.

Give it a chance. It's a good movie showing how the (((Grand Orient of France))) operates. Not sure about the rituals, though.

Maybe address the points then, rather than putting your fingers in your ears and shouting shill?

Not really. Like, if you look at the degrees, it points out all the shit the Judaen people do, and how they deserve to get shat on. Red Cross and Royal Arch especially. It also makes the argument for the Levant being Christian, but the Craft is no longer allowed to say that.

I'd hope masons pay a little better than CTR.

I have no idea, I heard it through my grandmother who is probably getting more senile and remembering things wrong. I don't take particular interest in "masonry" other than putting tile floors in houses and the like.

All I know for sure is he was pretty deep in the lodge here before he moved out to the bay area.

whatever it is, i hope it is with good will.

Good question. My bet is that Freemasons don't get jack shit, and most of them just pour money into the cult without ever getting anything in return. That's usually how cults and sects work, and the last thing that will happen, is that the cult will reveal its stream of income.

Which is probably a good thing that Grand Lodges have their financial records public. Hell, they have to, to be considered as non-for-profit.

Another $0.05 ! Woah, you're on a roll now buddy.

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100% esoteric and 0% exoteric information.

Fucked this post up, meant 100% exoteric and 0% esoteric.

Maybe you're the problem? And I'm happy to change my mind when presented with evidence. Trouble is, you people never seem to do that. You cling to misunderstood snippets and disinfo, and throw a tissy when it's pointed out that real information exists.

If it has "for Dummies" in the title, you can safely expect that it's not going to be advanced material…

Masonry is Talmudism for Goyim you idiot.

So it makes me wonder what exactly is OP going to attain by reading masonist misinfo and falsehoods.

Probably a rudimentary understanding of Masonry he can build on so that he doesn't dismiss solid info as falsehood.
There are better books out there, but if he's not a Mason, it would be useful to understand things like what a lodge is, how it operates, and what some of the words mean. Otherwise you end up with more idiots who think that a reference to a Judaen kind means that the institution is "Talmudic", and all kinds of shit about the "33rd."

this is a thread about understanding the freemasons.

I can't really see how book written by high-ranking freemason would be in any ways more objective start to study than stuff written by critics who you refer as "idiots". Those things like "what a lodge is" are found even from wikipedia, so I really don't see why should someone instead buy the book which is 100% pro-mason - unless you want to make sure he gets pro-mason view from the beginnning.

Where do you think wikipedia gets the information from…? And obviously there's more in it than just that.
Hell the only reason i recommend to begin with FMfD over Jasper Ridley's (not a Mason) The Freemasons is because the latter doesn't really explore the simple stuff like common symbols in a lodge, and instead is mostly about history.

What in FMfD do you really have such issue with? Just the author, who was made 33rd only after writing the book and penned it because he wanted others to avoid joining the way he did?

I just don't see the point in the book "explaining common symbols" if the book only gives exoteric explanations, and not the real esoteric info. If the book misleads even in the most basic things, like telling that name "freemason" originates from Masonic scholarship, when it actually comes from phre-mas (phre=sun and mas=child), and is referring how the masons worship sun. Then what is the point? What does the reader benefit from studying total crab?

TL;DR answer

They used to be based, but then got taken over by kikes which run it to this very day. It's a part of kike mafia network. They have some decent literature for entry level stuff, but it becomes quite misleading later on. King Solomon was one of first redpilled people in history, when, at the very end, he realized that the God he was worshiping and building a temple for is actually Satan. Of course, modern Freemasonry, instead of being about gaining freedom from Satan and his "creation", literally worship and serve him in exchange for gibs (material wealth and earthly power). Thus, they are the niggers of secret societies.

No Christian, Muslim, or especially a Jew would ever be admitted in original Freemasonry.

Of course, there still exist some obscure branches which follow the original rite, but they have neither the wealth of the influence of the mainstream Masonry.

It's explaining the purpose of the symbols and the basic gist. It's not going to give the full ritual interpretations. You'd have to buy a ritual book for that. But if someone wants to know what a Junior Warden is, or what a Tracing Board is, it'll tell them that.
It doesn't mislead anything, so the benefit is just a basic understanding. How is that so offensive to you?
Lol, good one.

BEWARE THE MASONONS ITT
You asked to be shilled to death OP, they've anchored some of their younger initiates here in order to scope out worthy initiates.
Never relax in mason threads and understand pretty much every piece of information given to you ITT is disinfo.

Wow. Reddit spacing. You must all have come over from r/correcttherecord. I will now believe the opposite of what you say, so don't tell me you've only ever been on pol (which you'll probably write as 'Holla Forums' instead of 'pol'), it won't work. Laughable.

Why would you post something like 'its not just for fun that they have 33 degrees'? You dangle a 'I know something interesting' remark but don't explain, which is almost quite literally begging for the question.

Well it seems no one wants to know what you've got to know, so there. It's 33 degrees because there are 33 ligaments in every toe, and if you count all of them you get the gematria value for the true name of God.

Thes masons are sun worshippers you lil fag, they are satanist. GTFO if you dont know what the fuck your talking about.

Source on any of this?

First of all, pick one. Secondly, prove it.

This guy is right, but ofcourse CTR infested pol, so no replies.

Well this is pretty common information. Just keep doing what you do, and maybe one day you reach 32nd degree - or then you don't.

Then you'd have no problem proving it?
Who says i haven't? It's only a one day course.

they lost their original purposes
jews being in charge of control now

I suggest you to use internet search engine and common sense.

Here's all you need to know about the masons. First, you need to look at the difference between what they say, and what they do. They say they
are a charitable society that believes in universal brotherhood. But what do they do? They are an invitation only organisation, so membership is only offered to a small group of family and friends. They say everyone is equal, but yet they create a secret elite. If everyone is the same, why is membership not open to everyone? Well, that doesn't sound like universal brotherhood, does it? Because they don't really believe in universal brotherhood. They believe they are better than everyone else. Now, as for being charitable. One of the benefits of being a mason is that members promote each other, rather than non-members. For example, a job might be given to a mediocre mason, rather than a talented non-mason. Now that's not very charitable, is it? So the masons aren't charitable, either.
Also, the excessive secrecy, and strange rituals. If you are not doing anything wrong, why do you need such secrecy? Here's something I've noticed throughout my life and when growing up, the difference between bad people, and good people. Bad people love secrecy, confusion, and complexity. All the good people I've met have been straightforward and honest, they tell you what they believe.
They prefer simple straightforward lives.
The bad people however, are always lying.
They are always plotting something behind the scenes. THey have personal lives that are full of confusion and arguments, divorces, affairs, and stress. But the key thing is that bad people, the people I have know who became criminals or degenerates, love sitting behind the scenes and plotting in secret, and lying about it. These were the people who were always lurking at the back of darkened bars
thinking up some nefarious scheme. Evil and secrecy go together because evil people know what they are doing is wrong, so they have to hide it. So just think about, if the masons weren't doing anything wrong why are the rituals so secret? What are they hiding?
Things are usually hidden and kept secret because they are immoral or unethical.
As for being a christian organisation, don't make me laugh. There already are christian organisations with meeting places and rituals, they're called the Catholic Church, the Methodist Church, the Church of England etc.
In the grave yard in my village is the grave of a high ranking mason who did in the late 19th century. Over the grave is a broken pillar or column. The 'Broken Column' is a masonic symbol meaning the deceased was a prominent member of the masons who died too soon, before he could fulfil his potential in the society. This is not a christian symbol, and in fact there are no christian symbols whatsoever on the grave or pillar, they are entirely absent.
The masons have to go in the oven.

Here's some old books on the craft, the old books are much more informative than newer ones.

"Masonic Biography and Dictionary", by Augustus Row.

archive.org/details/masonicbiograph00rowgoog

"Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, Vol 1" by Albert Gallatin Mackay

archive.org/details/anencyclopediaf02hughgoog

Vol 2:

archive.org/details/anencyclopediaf00hughgoog

thats how peple put their hands in the pockets back then. after it became a thing in portraits everyone started doing it. not much cryptic mason shit there. might aswell accuse anyone of doing the gesture of being a mason. but ofcourse lets just cherrypick the ones we want to be masons

Done so with both, and they say you're full of shit. Your move, chuckles. Remember, you said it was easy.

Dennis Wise, the creator of the major redpill TGSNT He has made a new documentary about the aftermath of WW2 and it involves Freemasons/Luciferianism as the prime secret society that many world leaders belong to.

I found it to be really nice.

www.renegadetribune.com/freemasons-useful-idiots/

Yeah, I'm sure that's just pure coincidence!

Go ahead and take a guess when that degree was made, and how common it is.

So if I take your word for it they're sun-worshippers, as if that label means much of anything. What am I too think from that? That it's a group of people who 'praise the sun' by having picnics when the heat is 33 degrees and above? Oh but they're satanists as well, meaning the sun is satan. Ok, so satan has horns and is red, but the sun is yellow, so uh, freemasons use yellow and red crayons when colouring in? Or they like to put horned masks on? What is the point you are trying to pass across?

Freemasonry is a dying fraternal organisation. Their average membership age is in the 80s. They tried allowing women, fags and atheists in, but nobody really cares about it.

The conspiracy theories surrounding them are just weak attempts to get more people interested in their group so they can recruit younger members.

Because of their founding rules they cannot advertise so getting people to join has become near impossible. It used to have feeder organisations like the scouts and branches of military but interest in those has also waned.

Like any other club it needs money to keep running, it has to get more members to replace the dying or lapsed ones, and it needs some kind of hook to interest people.

You can search their secrets or initiations and find out their entire fanfiction backstory.

It's mostly some trash about Lucifer being the good goy all along and how the Old Testament God was actually Satan. Obviously none of them believe it, they just keep the oral traditions alive because their home lives with their possessive and controlling wives are a living hell and they need to get away somehow.

Which is why it's kind of a good thing so many are "dying off", because it will hopefully be the shock needed to enact economic frugality. Should bring it back to only the members who want to be part of it and contribute, too.
Ayup, which is why it's curious you came up with that next paragraph.

don't be a dumb fuck, anything that is written can be rewritten, and when certain people have been financing which books have been written, published and lauded, little numbers and dates can change quite unnoticed.

You sound like a shill, and the people replying to you also sound like shills. This shit is getting too easy.

So basically no proof will ever make it past the delusion you have constructed in your own mind?

What I wrote is factually accurate, but incredibly terse as a summary of that it is.

I'll make an analogy so you can understand.

Scientology is mostly some trash about Xenu an evil space overlord trapping souls in volcanoes on Earth with h-bombs, and you're actually those souls reincarnated and pay us money to reach level 10 fireball.

LRon tried to put his own spin on Ancient Greek and Eastern mythology and combined it with cool gadgets and relevant themes at the time he was writing.

Freemasonry tries to put it's own spin on Judaeo-Christian monotheism and incorporates some pagan ideas. Just like Scientology you're not supposed to be initiated into these mysteries until you are good and ready (your brain is eggos and you've spent a bunch of money on membership) as the revelations are far too shocking to comprehend to the profane crowd of idiots you left behind when you joined.

Unlike Scientology which was growing and pissing people off and had to get exposed for the fraudulent bullshit it is, Freemasonry is dying and nobody cares about it. Up to the 90s some people still cared, infiltrated and exposed it. Afterwards it became obvious that the 'power' of this particular organisation was grossly exaggerated.

Lots of famous historical people were incidental Masons because they wanted the secrecy it afforded them to talk in private and plan shady shit. They were also Jesuits for the same reason. With the crypto-jewish Jesuit Pope today you would suspect the end of the world is near! Except nobody cares about Catholicism anymore. The irony is (((they))) spent about 500 years infiltrating and co-opting the church in vain. Back in the 1500s it had some real sway in the world, today the guy is kissing refugee feet.

Did you really want me to go into detail about the faggy handshakes and poems, Boaz, Jachin the Temple of Solomon, Hiram Abiff, Cain and Abel… it all leads up to spitting on the bible and embracing Lucifer and (((knowledge))) as the one true God and savior of mankind.

Another Prometheus cult wrapped up in pointless secrecy (because in 2016 nobody cares about your magical trances and telepathic contact with space Satan, because it's not fucking real).

You greasers conspicuously neglect, for all the guff about being a traditional organisation or whatever, that such traditions are passed down, meaning the bulk of recruits are likely to be generational than fresh. Besides in my experience as a shop assistant, I had five middle-aged business-types (I can tell that because three were Pakistani) asking for masonic white gloves all on the same day. I also read a local man's autobiography (unpublished); someone who was known to me, which states freemasons in his company (on an oil rig) stole credit for something he'd accomplished there and got one of their brothers promoted by it. I also met a 30ish freemason in the pub trying to socialise with my group like he were practicing a skill.

It can't be said to be dying out from where I stand.

My mind is not a delusion, your works are the constructions.

Except for the parts you wrote.
No, it doesn't even broach religion. That's like one of the basic things.
Agreed there.
Kinda. Because,
Is several flavours of tripe.

Your conclusions are, though.

Why do you say that? You disagree that things can be changed?

Nope. But if you trust nothing, then you'll never know anything. In the end, you just have to look at why something would be changed, and if it's possible in the circumstance.

With your cast-iron certainty in things, can you recall whether the Mona Lisa smiles or does she frown?

Smile. Duh. It's always been a thing about "why is she smiling" instead of, "maybe the model was just happy to be there."

Because it's an order that only eschews atheists and prohibits preying on women, promiscuity, homosexuality, and requires you be a white male for traditional lodges.

It's pretty much what /pol wants to be.

Consider the following - you join your local blue lodge, then you realize you're in a wonderful environment run by the Will and Pleasure of the Worshipful Master which is pretty much as close to fascism as it gets, and then you control all the charity the lodge does. What would you do to shape society?

Is that so? I'd never heard that, you must be younger than me.

What benefit is it to know by trusting untrustworthy accounts, which let us know things that are not in our nature to know? You should know that attitude is asking to swallow a lie or two. hundred. thousand. millions. of lies.

Perhaps. Or perhaps you must be younger to have not heard a centuries old question. Or perhaps you're 13, to have not heard of the movie from 2003.
According to you, nothing is trustworthy, ergo you could know nothing.
No, it's expecting one to work with what one has until you can prove otherwise. Anything else is unscientific, and idiotic.

They use string to make the blocks really level.
Obviously it takes a lot of skill too.

But that is the trick that they kept secret for hundreds of years which meant they were capable of building all those bad ass cathedrals and shit. Back when the average guy was not allowed to leave his farm.

Shrug, it's a creepy thing from a bygone age.

I understand the impulse most people have around collectivism. With the right ideas and leadership maybe this time (gee why hasn't this been tried before?) we can instill good ethics and morals into a younger generation, creating respect and stability, an honorable society filled with upstanding individuals who seek to improve it.

Then they invented advertising and television and you didn't need organisations like this anymore because you could program people remotely from childhood and they would cloak themselves in ignorance gladly because it triggered the primal reward mechanism without having to do anything.

There is very little functional difference between: Freemason, Protestant, Hindu, Scientologist, orthodox Jew, Maoist, Catholic, Mormon, Satanist, Buddhist, Muslim, Marxist, Atheist, Spiritual New Age Multi-Theist.

They are people, often too busy living or otherwise disinterested in understanding. They would prefer, because it's convenient, safe, reliable, practical, to just be spoon-fed some rules which they will obey in return for peace of mind.

Because without these rules there would be discord. A horrible form of lawless anarchy where the strongest and smartest survive and thrive, and the weak must be manipulative and deceptive or flounder. Before the rise of civilizations, no matter what some idiots in the 19th century writing chick lit for bored horny housewives might have wanted you to believe, primitive nomadic life was not pleasant and peachy. It was rape, torture and murder for mostly everyone including the raped and tortured. The last nomadic people left alive today, the Gypsies of Eastern Europe, a den of murderers, rapists and thieves, destabilizing any region they inhabit.

There is a dark violent undercurrent to human intelligence, a biproduct of being a curious apex predator which can adapt technology over biology. A man can learn to suppress it by breeding, by will, by law, or be consumed by it.

But obviously your intentions are not wisdom or information, they are distraction and obfuscation. J-j-join my club goys, it's totally c-cool!

Adapt your friendshipzonecult into a distributed decentralized anonymous network or suffer the fate of all that came before you. Infiltration, sedition, corruption, decay, insignificance.

But hey at least you can convert the poo in the loos. You lost the white males in the 50s and you'll never get them back. The reeking desperation of this thread should amuse any who understand where the wellspring of power lies.

The history and culture of your people is in your DNA and can never be forgotten or destroyed.

Agreed.

How do you know it's a centuries old question?

I wrote that the sources you use are not trustworthy.

Classic mistake perpetuated since lies became accepted as facts. It's easy to imagine how a thought like that would assure the know-alls of ignorant and illiterate ages, as well as the meek, safe rationalist for whom proof is a matter of accreditation and for whom all possibility lies in their sense of the sensible, even though in order to be truly rational one has to have surrendered to insanities like Cartesian doubt.

Aye, so which ones are trustworthy then?
Is what i'm referring to, genius. You can try and dance around it, but it seems like you know you're without a leg to stand on.

OP here, could any of you recommend any literature to understand Freemasonry better, or link me to some PDFs?

I appreciate all of the replies so far, thanks.

You want info on the Freemasons?

OK

The Jews at the Battelle institute in Columbus Ohio have Lane and Kenny Body shop painting armored vehicles with U.N. markings and are going to give them to Police trained in Israel….

Freemasonry used to be powerful long time ago but now it is weakening.

Hopefully someone has Frater K's Mega link, otherwise check out The Royal Arch Journey, which covers way more than it needs to. The Book of the Lodge by George Oliver, and the Book of the Perfect Lodge by Wilmshurst. And Twice Told Tales would probably be enough to get you a rounded view of it all. After that there's just more specific stuff you can find on here lewismasonic.co.uk/

Here's some old tidbit I've written about it. Whatever the masons were, I think they're pretty dessicated. Probably serve as a human trafficking wing for the kikes.

Yes this is a great series. It's time to kill the freemasons

stop overspacing you goddamn bitch

I could never be accepted into the Masons, as I do not believe in "higher powers." I am a dirty stinking unrepentant Atheist. I believe there are higher orders in nature; I believe there exists a level of order in chaos, and a level of chaos in order.

Even if I weren't Atheist, my NEETdom is sure to blow the legs off any chances I might have had.

Oh? Other than OTO/Crowley organizations, enumerate a few…

Added to my word filter just below "reddit spacing."

Also, reported.

Do you like myspacing job?

It was rape, torture and murder for mostly everyone including the raped and tortured.

So? You torture me, I torture you. You rape my wife, she rapes you back. An eye for an eye.

None of them are trustworthy. You make the leap to intuition, because it's what people are naturally equipped to use. It means you know nothing but experience. If you think that makes someone legless, I think you're mistaken.

Whatever you've read is banked reading material with which you may begin to think in your own direction, arriving at some unwritten conclusion by dead reckoning. You can glean more from a book by suspecting it than trusting it.

What a faggot. Discrediting a simple response based on structure is more than a little anal. You should be taking everything you read here and elsewhere with a grain of salt, regardless.

If that were true I'd run out and join it tomorrow. Christ is lame.

So why do you believe what you do? If you don't trust the ones based on empirical evidence or the fanciful nonsense like you've been references, where did your beliefs come from?
Only a fool would think they're mutually exclusive.

Muh Book. Yeah ok. PEDO

Finnsburg Fragment Versus Beowulf.

Read manly p halls works
the secret teaching of all ages talks about how the masons came to be from the Rosicrucian's, it does not however talk about the modern kikes in it.

lurk more and stop sliding or go to a Qtddtot thread

I would say the same but how often does masonry and masons get talked about other than these threads?
another good work on masonry by manly p hall is the lost keys of masonry

no, you just have to believe in a higher power. Masonry is kosher kabbala so there's no need for kikes to join, kike.

Empiricism got debunked in 19th century kek. Only the most anal kikes still cling to it because all of their materialistic propaganda is built around the senses. Add relativism to the mix and you get the perfect judeo-masonic worldview for keeping goyim in perpetual darkness and slavery.

If you reject rationalism, reject math and see how far it takes you.

Fuck off. This is a quality thread.

> Jews aren't allowed to become one

stop jewing the poor goy

bump to 1st page

Jews can only join the Craft degrees. Not the chivalric/research/haute grad Christian ones.

You'll find mostly misinformation here. It's a fraternity, and most people here have no experience with fraternal esoteric symbology. Anyone who arbitrarily connects freemasonry with Judaism needs to understand that freemasonry comes from the same background as most people here: judeo-christianity. You do have to believe in a god to join, only reason I haven't done it. Free mason refers to stone masons (hence the main symbology focuses on Solomon's Temple) back in medieval times who could travel freely. Lots of freemasons are white christian veterans who want some alternative means of connecting besides church and work. Freemasons aren't against or for jews, hence anons like make up shit and indulge in unsubstantiated theories.

freemasonry does indeed come from Christianity, esoteric Christianity, the magical order of Rosicrucian, however the Rosicrucian receded from light after it's creation of masonry and have allowed it to become this

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But bro, I don't want to suck old dicks. Do you enjoy sucking old dicks? What's wrong with you.

Interesting. My gradmpa was a white Christian Navy Vet.

The Masons conducted the service at a veterans of foreign wars building. They had some strange looking light bulb with the mason symbol in it.

Of course you want to suck old dicks user, you're a faggot.

Close enough, but have in mind that groups behind such societies have centuries long history of deceit and infiltration, same goes for mainstream churches. One would need to dig through a lot of disinfo to get all the pieces of the puzzle.

I was a blue-lodge Mason for a few years. Joined primarily to do some community service work with like minded men, was underwhelmed. Some of the ritual was interesting (based around the building of the Temple by King Solomon).

I met a few interesting folks there, but ultimately decided to not renew my dues. I was asked to participate in the Shriners and other orders of Masonry but found it largely gobbledy gook and declined.

Some of the women in the sister organizations were generally unpleasant people, and had no desire for my wife to be exposed to that either.

In general the basic Blue Lodge has fundamentally decent folks in general, with some mixture of social climbers, and folks who take it way too seriously.

the Rosicrucian were and possibly still are wizards, they can't be bamboozled by just any regular kikes, maybe a super magical kike but not regular ones.

Read "Initiates of the Flame" by Manly P. Hall and "Freemasonry and Catholicism" by Max Heindel.

These two books explain the underlying mythos of Freemasonry.

33rd means you meet Lucifer.

The Nazis researched the Freemasons extensively and in the end Hitler made the decision to ban them. No member of a Masonic lodge could ever become a member of the Nazi party. This book is the primer on Masons and how they're kike-controlled and enemies of NATSOC.

PDF here: 8ch.net/pdf/res/464.html

Only after the ban on private organisations. Prior to that tonnes of Masons were Party members, because many of the goals went hand in hand.

Wrong Schlomo you kike mason fag, GTFO.

Seemed to have struck a nerve there.
Fun fact: German Masonry in the 20s and 30s had rituals centred around the construction of German cathedrals like Strasbourg, because they were uncomfortable even mentioning Jews. Not to mention that the one lodge in the country which allowed Jews to join was chased out by real Masons.

Is there any documentation concerning their rites etc. from back then?

Yea, tonnes. The Grand Lodges of Germany library has quite the collection of ritual books from that era, as does the Grand Alpina of Switzerland. I'm not sure where else [online], sadly, as i would love to have a few copies on hand to perform them.

Nice. I might be able to visit those next year, thanks bro.

I'm guessing it's mostly in German though, right?

Thanks for digging this up. I had never seen it before.

Yea, i didn't see any English translations. Yet more of a reason to get some digital copies happening. Hell, even English versions of their current [Schröeder] rituals are bloody rare.

They want to fuck young boys up the ass for the Generative principle. Good goy kaballaists. Avoid them like fucking cancer.

Also, like goons, you will also never get a straight answer out of a mason.

BAHAHAHA! (((Mason))) user wants that geezer benis, hey mason tell us about Hiram Abiff and Mahahbone. Or tell us about How Mayer Amshel Rothschild and Karl Marx were members.
Mason, I know you punks have some good ancient knowledge, you should drop some here so we can peruse it and utilize it against the kikes, but you wont you traitor to humanity.

Don't worry lad, no one has to suck old kike and cuck cocks. His thirst for his masters seed is very disturbing though.

Yea, it's called the Bible.
Anyone can join if they fit the bill. Doesn't mean shit.

Is this a variation of the Mason symbol?

youtube.com/watch?v=5PgX8l9AgzE

No you lying slave, i mean the Egyptian and pre christ works.

Yea, there really isn't much of that. Spoilers: Masonry isn't about giving you the answer, it's about giving you the tools for you to ask your own questions and go find your own answers. So all this "ancient knowledge" stuff just ain't how it works.

Could be, but lots of groups use those symbols, so it might not be.

I seek knowledge to come to my own answers and save my people and world, you will not understand and will continue your goy version of Babba Kama or Pilpul the judensau have taught you, you must be very low level and naive in your lodge.
Egyptian, Babylonian, Greek, your leaders are hoarding knowledge that could very well help us defeat the jew yet you care not.

Care to demonstrate where? I mean, i kind of get where you're coming from because the A&AR has stuff like an Egyptian degree, a German law degree, a Babylonian court degree, and so on, but this doesn't change the fact that there's no "hidden knowledge" in them. They're framing devices, taken from things which are already quite common knowledge.

If I could demonstrate where I wouldn't be asking you I would do it myself and post it for my brethren.
Let me ask you one question, are you White?

My point was that you've gotten some made up idea in your head and are now frustrated that reality isn't able to meet it.
As the pure driven snow. Not even a % of various Jew like so many "white" people.

Christianity is not a prerequisite of freemasonry. Belief in a supreme being ('grand architect of the universe') is required.

Entered Apprentice, Fellowcraft, Master Mason. These are the only blue lodge degrees. After that, you are considered to be a master mason anywhere you go. Then you can go into a branch like the York, Scottish, and/or Shriners. There are also lesser known branches which have either withered and died or are barely holding on like the Grotto or the 99 degrees (Mexicans).

I was not under the assumption that the Ordo Templi Orientis served Satan. I'm not a member of the order and thus cannot speak from experience, but after having read through an intercepted copy of their degree rites, I see no specific or implied mention of subservience to Lucifer. The Astrum Argentum (certain paths) may do something according to their own ways but I was not aware the AA and OTO were conjugally tied.

Contemporary evolution of freemasonry
1730s - beginning of Western freemasonry (Grand Lodge of England)
1840s - beginning of Mormonism (whose founders were freemasons and they borrow a lot of symbolism but it's a much more insulated belief system)
1910s - Aleister Crowley (also a freemason) takes over a branch Ordo Templi Orientis and converts it into his own personal evolution of what he saw in the freemasons.
1950s - Ron L. Hubbard (not a known freemason) steals secrets from members of the OTO and uses them to form the basis of scientology. Scientology is heavily revised in the mid-90s and is effectively "neutered".
1970s - Anton Le Vey (former freemason, member of the OTO) forms the church of satanism. Despite its name, it has surprisingly little to do with worshiping satan because the Vatican already does that better than the CoSa ever could. We could almost discard this one entirely if they didn't borrow heavily from the rites and rituals of other organizations. The Church of Satan is effectively dead as of present day.

All of the aforementioned use precisely the same tools with Crowley going decidedly more woo-woo with his use of Higher Guardian Angel (also used in Mormonism) and Scientology using sciency-sounding terms in lieu of the woo-woo.

When western freemasonry was at its height (1940s-1950s), it was like a tree with many branches. One only needed to be a master mason to explore any given branch. Now, the tree is dying and many of its branches have rotted and fallen off to never return again.

What's funny is that each organization I mentioned above is also undergoing a similar dying phase. Mormonism grew more insular – as it was designed to do. The OTO went further underground. The Church of Scientology is experiencing alarming drops in newcomers. And I keep leaving out the Church of Satan because there's really not much to consider with that group. It was a dead group before it ever began and it only lasted this long purely from shock value.

First, dont be ashamed of your grandpa, since there are many mason branches that are more or less orthodox/illegitimate, so who knows in what type he was.
Old operative masonry branches may hypotheticaly still exists but chances are that today what is left are mostly the anti-traditionnal parody we call modern masonry. How to recognize which is which? A good sign is the filiation with the catholic church and jesus; if they skip jesus and the church as if it didnt matter (its of primordial importance), then it probably is one of those mason branches that became speculative by degenerating and losing touch with the essential, aka corrupted by protestantism and judaism values.

How do you feel about Jews and their puppets enacting White Genocide, Hooten Plan, Coudenhove Kalergi Plan, etc. How do you feel about serving the best interests of the(((elite))) while you shill for your own peoples destroyers?
You Masons are in a position to save your world and if you are white, save your people yet you side with the jew. I guess we have nothing else to discuss as we will never see eye to eye. Race before Religion, My people before ALL ELSE.

Not a fan. Duh.
And it does contribute. Real life isn't like an image board. You need to redpill people slowly. That's what Freemasonry does. It makes people question ethics and morality to the point where the (((media))) narrative has the shine taken off. Then it makes people think about their kith and kin, how they should be held above all else, and against all others.
Plus, it says the Jews deserve the shit they get, so that's fun.

Fuck off already with this shitty meme. I don't like it either for reasons of readability, but this isn't some fucking kindergarten club where we need to show the proper hand signs to fit in.

Nothing "woo-woo" about HGA etc. It's basically what some Christians call the Voice of God.

Coudenhove von Kalergi was a mason, Nelson Mandela was as well, and like I mentioned earlier Mayer Amschel Rothschild, and Karl Marx(Moses Levy). It is no (((cohencidence)))These architects of our suffering, these genociders of our people, these rapists of our women and children. And yet you collude and reward them, I hope you take a long hard look in the mirror and rethink many things.

I explicitly said I wasn't a mason. Way to sperg out. You seem to have an inability to differentiate jews from other organizations, that actually makes jews look more credible because they can justifiably distance themselves from those organizations just as your average Christian can. Remember that jewish symbology is a product of most white people being Christian. Freemasonry also contains references to the ancient Greeks and contains plenty of stereotypical fraternity elements. Ignorant pleb thinks he can talk with the big boys.

Anytime someone says "this is what freemasonry does" (good or ill) shows himself to be instantly a fool. Freemasonry doesn't do a goddamned thing. Its members do. And many of them do absolutely nothing.
But, like (and many others) pointed out: plenty of dickbags directly responsible for pushing the white race into a corner also happen to be freemasons. How do you reconcile that? Well, you can chalk it up to "all freemasons" but, as also pointed out, outside of sri lankan basket weaving forums, that's pretty useless. "Some freemasons are dickbags" and you'd be right. You can go "freemasons are child molesting pedos" which is diametrically wrong and just a projected fiction to cover up your own inner workings. Or you can be somewhat reasonable and say that each man pursues freemasonry for his own pursuits and freemasonry provides some additional mental tools that are outright handy in accomplishing those goals.

What you have is a philosophy – life study. This life study can be helpful to some in finding the tools they already have latently built within them by a supreme creator. The OTO proposes a similar path by encouraging their followers to discover their own true inner will. For some that inner will is "destroy all kikes and severe them from the very fabric of existence" and thus those people go out into the world and do precisely that. But we live in a BIG world so individuals have a limited but tangible effect the bigger their will is. You don't need freemasonry or any woo-woo shaman medicine to get to your end goal. You simply have to refine and hone what you already have. YOU already have all the tools at your disposal. So when you see a dickbag who happens to be a freemason, ask not what fools allowed them to continue but instead ask yourself what it is you plan on accomplishing with your life and accomplish precisely that through any and all means necessary.

I think most early humans would have been perfectly content to wander the earth aimlessly like the polynesians or the aboriginal australians for another 80 thousand years without much of anything to show for it except some wood carvings, primitive canoes and sharpened sticks hardened in a fire.

The Chicxulub impactor asteroid 66 million years forced some dinosaurs deep underground. They evolved then later attempted to resurface and force the evolution of the Homo species to tinker with playing God and having a slave race better adapted to the alien cold environment.

It went horribly wrong somewhere (?20k years ago) hence our exponential growth, and they became both scared and jealous of their creation. Their lizard brain knows only how to enslave and control through force and manipulation, first overtly then when they were overthrown by inserting themselves into religions, myths and legends.

You can see their footprint still in the traditions of the Eastern Religions:

These are all entry tier slave philosophies which already answer any specific question you might have with some bland generalities and are designed to keep everyone in line and obedient. It's circular logic and completely useless for making any progress, you could have these ideas for 50,000 years and still be stuck in some neo-feudalistic shithole with CURRENTYEAR technology being every year, zero progress, because good goy what is progress anyway?

My guess is the cold weather on the Steppes, Northern Europe and North America created at least 3 autonomous uncontrolled and unmonitored human archetypes (Mongol, Viking, Inuit), more intelligent and self-sufficient expansionists which used their independence to come to their own conclusions about how things were. This wild card toppled and raped the lizard dominated civilisations of China, India, Persia, Rome, South America (Aztec, Maya - untold story of how they died out, southern expansion of Northern Inuit tribes) and created the exponentially growing world we have today by putting together pieces of the puzzle which were not supposed to be connected.

The Oy Vey moment would have started with the sack of Rome by the Vandals and continued with the rise of the Viking Explorers and the brutal Mongol Horde. We're not quite sure what cucked the sun worshipping savages in South America, my suspicion is 'white' indians from the North expanding southwards in a brutal conquest long before Spanish contact hundreds of years later, who themselves found mostly abandoned cities in the jungles and remnants of the lizard civ.

For the past 50 years the forced meme has been 'you're growing too quickly, you need to stop, think of the planet, think of the children'. This is probably for two reasons

Stop drilling stop digging stop growing, just go back to being slaves, p-p-please!

But it's not working. An attempt to breed ingenuity out of the species is underway, but all it will do is infect the tanned with the pale's desire to uncover their masters and destroy them, causing expansion to happen faster and sealing their fate. Snakes in the ground. The problem with secrecy is that it is surrounded by lies, and the truth is the only weapon you need to win.

(((You'll find mostly misinformation here. It's a fraternity, and most people here have no experience with fraternal esoteric symbology. Anyone who arbitrarily connects freemasonry with Judaism needs to understand that freemasonry comes from the same background as most people here:JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY)))

These were your words not mine, you are either a jew or a shabbos goyim. You are not a big boy, you are a impotent slave. Keep up the good work whatever the fuck you are sucking that jew cock and maybe Chaim will pat you on the head.

lol that's all true retard! most white people worship a fucking dead kike and you think that wouldn't have an effect on fraternal symbolism, let alone an increasing desire among many white people to learn about the Old Testament or hebrew? It's unfortunate but we can't turn back time and pretend these things away like you seem to want to do. Truth hurts, doesn't it?

Haha. Who refers to themselves like that? I think you'd have to be a Jewish romantic, unless white is now so degraded a 'White is beautiful' movement is emerging.

It doesn't matter how you phrase your skin colour as you can't prove you are what you say are. You are jewish and a 3rd degree mason until proven otherwise.

Well lad you asked about masonry, i hope you see them for the shabbos goy cucks with jew masters they are. Good luck in your pursuit of truth.

You don't give a fuck about the truth though.

No truth only hurts the ignorant and liars like yourself, stop projecting your bullshit.

How would you know? You have zero interest in learning about what freemasonry really is. you're just here to discredit legitimate jewish conspiracies.

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So what is your truth, slave?
Also how are you going to tell me the truth of masonty? You said you werent one?

*masonry

In summary.

that's one ugly schoolgirl

I was just pointing out what I know from having visited a lodge and friends that are freemasons, as well as having been in a social fraternity in college myself. You seem to be very paranoid about the esoteric, probably because you don't know how to decipher symbology. Most anons are pretty good at that though, and plenty of anons here are masons as well. Fraternities are not designed to have political or demographic convictions, they're merely designed to harbor connections, philanthropy and create a sense of the sacred, which requires the use of jewish symbology in a predominantly Christian society. Freemasonry is more deist/christian than it is jewish.

Would it be possible for us to join the Freemasons with the intent of taking it over and repurposing it? Its all really old people who are like 70, 80 or 90 so all we would have to do is wait 10 or 15 years then we have this massive network at our disposal.

So you don't know shit. Ok thanks for clarifying.

I like that idea.

Dubs confirm we take masonry back from the kikes and slaves and repurpose it to save the white race and move to the stars.

I obviously know more than you, which begs the question of why you're even in the thread. You've made your point, and it was poorly made.

we're moving into a post-material world, power is information, now that they can no longer rewrite history these types of organisations will crumble along side governments and religions.

Clinton's attempt at manufacturing consent for this election through the internet failed terribly, she didn't even succeed at disrupting her opponents organisational power online, the transparent efforts probably earned Trump more supporters than convinced any undecideds to turn away.

Think of how many people have watched his speeches just to see if he will say something crazy and then have gone away thinking "Hey, some of what he says is pretty good".

Compare that to nobody giving a shit what Hillary says, she's a phantom candidate and her 90s smear campaign tactics simply don't work in this transparent modern world.

And this is before all of the wikileaks and foundation shit.

DAILY REMINDER THAT KIKES CREATED FREEMASONRY, AND KIKES AND FREEMASONS ARE NATURAL ALLIES THAT BOTH WORK TOGETHER TO DESTROY THE ARYAN WHITE RACE!

This!
MASONNIGGERS PLS GO

Freekek Masons were undermined by the Illuminati which are undermined by Jews / Zionists.

Proof?

American Seal.

Just look at the 1st and less known version of it.

No, not the pyramid with the all-seeing eye version.

The one withe the stars, which was created the same time.

Connect the stars.
And you got the real Illuminati and therefore Free Masons.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States

I am here to shit on sneaky fuckers like you and try to learn something. I have the 1st part done.

True the internet put much power through information in the publics hands, Masonon are most of you lodge members pro Trump or Hilary?

You haven't done the first part at all, nor have you shown any intention of doing the latter. You've wasted what little time you have on earth discrediting legitimate jewish conspiracies. Congratulations.

even through illuminati is just a PC term for kikes, I still agree on the rest of your post.

In the Shadow of Hermes

I can't believe how low Holla Forums has sunk. Masonry is Jewry for goyim. In the protocols it says that masonic lodges are to be infiltrated. Masons are the ultimate shabbos goyim (does anyone here even know what that is anymore?). There is a very good reason why Hitler put masons in camps with fags and kikes.

Anybody who hasn't watched this embed is not redpilled.

My premise was that kikes have subverted and taken over masonry and are using it to remove white people from the face of the Earth, these user who posted these understand it as well. Yet you prattle on,

did you reply to the wrong poster?

indeed, it was for

"shabbos goyim" is literally sabbath cattle if I am not mistaken.

Even when you look at Adam Weishaupt (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt), the founder of the Order of the Illuminati, strange things can come to mind.

Adam = 1st man = leader (of all)
Weishaupt = Weis(e) = wise + Haupt = head / leader

= The wise leader (of mankind).

Almost too good to be true.

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Symbols are the universal language of secret societies. Because the Secrets had the foresight to understand that languages and nations rise and fall, that the only way to preserve their knowledge was through symbolism. Freemasons don't "claim" these symbols, but can interpret them because this is how secret societies communicate their knowledge. If you want to learn more I highly suggest reading Manley P. Hall.

What a cute anime girl.

Also, Holla Forums is currently ruled by a goddamn Freemason.

Good post, small nitpick:
The Bavarian Illuminati. The "fellowship of the illumined ones" goes back a loooong time. I recommend Bill Cooper's "Hour of the Time". Very erudite.

remnantradio.org/Archives/articles/William Cooper/Mystery Babylon/MB1.htm

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That wasn't your original premise, you've been blathering on about the entire thing being Jewish even though it's mostly white Christians, many of which have experience in the military.

Does it really matter whether the masons are kikes, kike shills, wannabe kikes or LARPers? Just throw them in the oven when it's all said and done, and forget about them.

I think there are some sources that give Moses Mendelssohn as the man behind Weishaupt.

true.

Well you have to be a conspiracy theorist to even be here, so if you know there's partial or no truth to media narrative, where did you find your beliefs contrary to it?

I think it's mostly accumulating information, resolving contradiction and coincidence, connecting dots, making intuitive leaps, relating similarities and being credulous and being skeptical in equal measure.

Source? I hadn't heard that one. Heck, he wouldn't be eligible, having been in prison.
No?

Semantics, really? We're discussing the content of a book here, not the actions of the readers.
Again, anyone who fits the bill can join. It's just philosophy. Their actions are hardly a reflection on the clubs they join, as they'd be dickbags anyway.
That is pretty much what my previous post said.

Those goalposts sure are mobile.
Duh.

Go for it. The whole point of private lodges is so you can structure them how you please without damaging the whole.
It's like D&D, in that it gives you a framework, but the detailing is up to you.

The ones i know and have been to in America are all pro-Trump, as are the ones here but it's less discussed. Actual political discussion is banned, of course.

It doesn't say how, though, implying that the author didn't know how lodges worked, or Freemasonry is structured.

From where, was the core question.

This. He's an obvious shill and clearly not from here.

Nigga, i've been here since early 2014 before it started being the "base" for GG stuff.

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Thanks for illuminating me. And trust Prince Hall niggers to violate a landmark like that.

They're cuckservative Protestant Christians who thought they could be "brothers" with Vatican-Roman "Catholics" and Talmudic Jews without White Genocide occuring.

Never heard of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer?

Grandfather was 32nd. I inherited this letter opener; he denied that it was Masonic but come on, owls are all over the layout of Washington DC, the Bohemian Grove, and money.

Worked with Barry Goldwater.

Probably not smart to even upload but did it to rile some more /x/ out of the thread. All of my research indicates that they worship the owl as the wisdom that lasts throughout periods of darkness aka Minerva / Lilith.

Am I in yet?

They do possess top tier medical knowledge, much greater than contemporary medicine. Too bad they got poz'd as well.

You do realize, that most of those "alterations" of Freemasonry have served a specific purpose?

Mormonism was an attempt to take over American Protestants (And possibly to break away from the ever increasing kikery in mainstream Masonry)

Aleister Crowley was a charlatan who's role was to be a kind of pop icon. He had a degree of independence, which turned out to be a failure. Possibly affected by kikes, although i have no concrete clues for that at the moment. (Didn't dig much about him)

Ron L. Hubbard was a typical snake oil salesman, and possibly running a gov psyop as well. Kike puppet in any case.

La Vey was a kike who's goal was to corrupt and destroy young people which might have threatened the kikes and the establishment. His entire philosophy is a materialistic version of Talmud. Heavily involved with gov structures as well.

Some of them failed, some of them have served their purpose, and some got subverted/neutered.

If any group in USA remained true to the original Freemasonry, it's Skull and Bones society. But judging by their actions and history, they got kosher seal as well quite some time ago.

Aleister Crowley was Tavistock. British Intelligence.

Anton Le Vey was Tavistock. British Intelligence.

Hubbard was CIA. He worked at SRI (Stanford Research Institute). The CIA starts at alot of cults. At the top level the CIA is controlled by British Intelligence and acts a tool of Tavtistock. They man the ship with homosexuals and pedophiles, because they are easy to control through blackmail and because they are expendable and they have more morals.

Free Masons learn the Trivium, which is what Tavistock is trying to dilute and destroy. If /pols/ learn the trivium, they will not be slaves anymore.

I recommend doing some digging in older bookstores. In London, there are several shops that sell antique books, I.e. biopics, adventurer diaries, ledgers, and in one earlier this year I found d one that had a small shelf of well tattered Freemasonry related books. Not just on the history of the freemasons but sort of handbooks for lodges as well. I used to have a picture lf it saved cos my little brother is obsessed with the freemasons but can't seem to find it now. But yeah, seek out antique book stores/libraries, you may find a trove of information there.

Being a reddit spacing shill hack isn't that bad, is it?

To be fair it is a way to organize 13 stars in a symmetrical shape? I mean take a look at a sheriff star, it has the same shape too.

Petition to change it if it bothers you that much.

Masonry is good. You should be a mason (unless you're an atheist). Shills on Holla Forums are afraid of race-conscious whites being masons. That alone should make you want to look beyond the source-free claims about gay orgies.

to be fair, silver dollars have 13 stars without the heeb star.

How much did jimbo pay you to say that?

this.

It should be entirely symmetric tbh.

It more or less always was a Jew (Kaballah) cult. Not so much 'illuminati undermining'. Also Rosicrucianism before.
The 'Founding Fathers' and the founding, the whole thing was masonic. One extreme example, Thomas Paine was involved with the ((French Revolution)) later.

The Flag is like a variation of the flag of the British East India Company. [1]
Also this: "Hopkinson is recognized as the designer of the flag of the United States, and the journals of the Continental Congress support this."
"The Great Seal reflects Hopkinson’s design for a governmental flag and the Admiralty Board Seal reflects Hopkinson’s design for a naval flag. Both flags were intended to have 13 stripes. Because the original stars used in the Great Seal had six points, Hopkinson's U.S. flag might also have intended the use of 6-pointed stars. This is bolstered by his original sketch that showed asterisks with six points." [2]

Masonry mixes truth with deceit. It takes real European paganism and muddles it up with semitic bullshit. Same with those Bohemian Grove types.

"Know, my son, that the new Masonry, responding to the demands of the enemy of humanity and fulfilling orders to increase the daughters of corruption, gave birth to Socialism. This granddaughter came to be evil worse than earlier evils." Jonas Lawrence

"Masons liberated her from all rules and conditions, having as a result the degeneration and misery of the woman. Our descendants will witness horrible spectacles born of the misery of the woman.

The woman, with this exaggerated affection, was falsely exalted, fraudulently cultivating her pride without advising her of the irreparable loss that would be produced in her. With extremist liberty, the woman lost her temporal and eternal happiness, she lost her education, she lost her life and even more, she made the world lose family, social, educational and procreative order.

If she took comfort in this easy and voluptuous life, the result of this joy was misery and mourning, mourning and misery for all the world." Janet Lawrence

Pike is just a religionist and dramatic as fuck. But this was the beginning of the American-Jewish Masons after the Great Freemason Scare" when the original masons had to go into hiding or keep in low key in America, a new group took over their morals and dogma

Thanks for the bullshit lies there 4chan

How dare they give me no invite! They fear my power levels of sorcery.

Yep you're in bud.

Build a society where you reap the children, and kill their parents aka Gods.

BOOM

Masons are dead.

The owl is their real symbol.

It can see in the dark.

It is 'enlightened'.

no moron. Dont just make shit up. The owl comes from Rome

I am first grade York Rite.

The Flag of Ohio has 14 Stars…..
13 plus the STAR of Bethlehem

Get ready to die ye. Ye I will kill with my wrath. He saith.

Freemasionry is actually an ancient cult which knows the true origin of man and civilization. The modern Freemasons however have been subverted by juden and no longer know what was lost.

The modern Freemasons originally started as a pro-white/western civilization order with christianity at its foundation. Not necessarily the Bible but the belief in a single all powerful God, not excluding other dieties they also studied in Egyptian mysticysm and other ancient gods. They tie those beliefs into their order as being the very foundation of civilization itself. The Freemasons and the pre-historic aryan civilization are somehow related, but we will never know now since they've been infiltrated and corrupted by the juden since at least the late 1800s. When they started being heavily cryptic and "mysterious" is when they were compromised.

It used to be a pro-white christian order of rebuilding our lost civilization and history, and now that is no longer the case sadly.

And this is why you failed…

Every good historian knows Paul's (((Christians))) are the anti-Christ.

The secret of the Freemasons is sacred-geometry and philosophy/science that was repressed by the church. The geometry simple tells you how to get high on DMT and that there were previous civilizations that fell apart do to natural disasters (floods/ice age ending)

Don't forget the Greek Owl of Athena, bruh.

NIGGER

Yeah, I meant Greece. That's the one

MONGREL SLAVIC CHRISTIAN-COMMUNIST

Yeah, kind of what I was getting at but couldn't put it into words as I haven't done much research on the subject, I just know the basics from researching the prehistory/ice-age civilization theories.

I'm curious if the old and true masons are even still around and are going by a different name. There are so many kiked secret societies that exist, there have to be a couple that are at least on our side that know the truth. Other than Holla Forums being the obvious kool kids klub.

haha!
I'm going to use this to respond to people next time they tell me off

You sir are the shill Jews can become masons and the fact that they are allied is why Hitler killed masons during ww2

Someone here is well-read, I see.

I think so. Many indications and symbols to suggest so.
And the Puritans who founded America were very philo-Semitic (Judaizers). The USA has been Jewed from the beginning.

Secretos de la masoneria, from Caro.

There is no longer a reason for the masons to exist. The church is what made it necessary. Now Academia is the new church (of Marx) so you'll get a few intellectuals in masonry but most of them I imagine are plebs who get off and the mystery and business connections. And that's why Jews thrive in them.

After Napeloean emancipated the Jews, they bought there way into Freemasonry and changed the rituals

Jews were not allowed to join until Napoleon emancipated them. So it was not always Jewish

Another Russian here spreading his kike theories while worshiping kike cults like Soviet Christianity

Oh I can't wait until the next fuhrer comes and all these elitist sects get thrown into the oven again. It will be the best day of my life. Like a second birthday.

this is a nice site for masons, not much bs, even has redpills on hitler and zionists.

freemasonry.bcy.ca/ (ignore https error)

Dank dubs for dank words.
I feel like this is a good lead we could follow. How deep would the rabbit hole go this time? This thread is already getting derailed by shills but this is getting really interesting. I've never really delved into Freemason threads because they ALWAYS seem to get D&Ced by /x/ and JIDF faster than anything else posted here next to ancient-aryian threads (((coincidence?))) :^)

Taken from Kikepedia itself, I shit you not. I'm fucking spooked already fam.

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That kiked out website has a full page defending the Talmud.

Of course (After the jews betrayed him) napoleon forced all jews that were to work in france to have a special jewish working permit.

The Catholic church is the enemy of Freemasons and every Nationalist or intelligent person on earth. That's why the masons became a thing, to hide work and talk freely without the pedo cult killing them for it.

Go to your local lodge and join yourself. They'll tell you to not tell nobody but it don't mean nothin. Tell everybody because it's nothing. Nothing at all.

Unless it's in France. Then it's something. The French should do well to explain it to you.

Not just banned by Catholic church, Also banned by the muslims in Iran.

Basically in all countries aware of the jews, it is banned.

Banned in China too.

Perhaps that says something about China.

Puritans + Protestants = strong Jewish influence on early America. The USA has always been philo-Semitic and is today the most Jewish country on the planet.

archive.is/Dl5lc

So some idiot wrote in 1939 that the Great seal (Roman as fuck) is Jewish and you saved it? Because you're too fucking stupid to realize that 1700s art loved using things like the eye of providence and certain calligraphy symbols in common for all types of print?

This is the result of a Eastern European Communist-Christian education.

>>archive.is/Dl5lc
Do you not know how to read? The archive simply said that Christians were trying to learn the Hebrew culture and bible. That's what Christians do. At the same time America was the home of paganism

Except that they couldn't run for office while your beloved Russia became and still is the essence of world Jewery to this day. Putin is run by the Jewish oligarchy and you have a Jew Lenin mummified and on display as a God.

Soviet countries of ANY form = Judaism 100%+ levels

All countries were Jew wise back then, and Muslims liked them before Israel became a State

Not much deeper. Read Trotsky's biography. He talks about Freemasons as a dead power that was going to be taken over by Socialism

i didn't say it was perfect. but it's written well without a lot of mystery shit.

kys cuck

Uhhh

Why do people make things like this up? It developed out of labourer guilds, why would there be "hidden knowledge" like that?

Source? Because we have ritual books and exposures going right back to the early 18th century.

Well you must have some reason to believe it to assert it. And once more Freemasonry isn't a secret society.

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I don't remember seeing the obsession with King Solomon's temple in early masonry. They were more into being Druids and Egyptian wizards and shit.
Jews and Catholics destroyed real Freemasonry.

You're correct there. It was based around Noah's Ark initially, but around the 1720s (still before Jews were allowed to join), the 3rd degree was added and Solomons Temple was introduced on the notion that Masons should probably use stonework as their framing device, not carpentry.
Nah, that was never part of it. A lot of other groups at the time were, and of course there was membership crossover, so i can see where you're coming from.
What are you accusing the Catholics of doing?

I've been thinking about joining a lodge and becoming a Mason for the sake of brotherhood after I leave the Army.

What should I look for when I'm searching for a lodge to join?

If that's what you're after, look for one with a lot of ex-military guys. They'll understand it the best. If you're in America, they're common but hard to find. If you're in the UK, there are dedicated regiment lodges.

That makes sense.

I'm from the US, and on that note, does Freemasonry in general encourage pacifism? I'm no thug or troublemaker, but I carry a firearm [spoiler]when/where I'm allowed to[/spoiler] and I won't just stand there and let someone rob me or cause harm to others in my presence.

Got 14 minutes in. All BULLSHIT covering for the Jews

1. Trotsky mocked the Freemasons in that very quote but they left it out. He called them tee tottlers with women's aprons that could never get anything done these days and would be easy to push aside in the coming Revolution

2. Statue of Liberty is the goddess of reason, for the cult of reason, a Enlightenment French Revolutionary symbol.

3. Birth Binia or whatever is the Jewish Masonic club, which they narrator decides to ignore, along with the Italian version he mentions being the actual Italian Mafia

This is why you don't to Eastern Europeans for study in ANYTHING.

Druid priests were high ranking Masons sects. England's mason were all Druids. Freemasonry is alchemy and alchemy is the last vestiges of European paganism (outside of the church approved philosophers).

The temple (a myth) is described based on Egyptian and Babylonian building designs which map out the heavens. It's essentially a dungeon and dragons larping of what the Levite authors of the Torah would of made if the fantasy kingdom of random sand nigger tribes called "Hebrews" (nomads) had ever existed.
Point being, Freemasons would have been aware of it from birth as Christians and known it was a blueprint after becoming educated in masonry. But it wasn't an essential theme like now where it's more important than even Jesus.

Catholics were the reason Freemason came into being. And they invented their own versions (King John vs. William of Orange) in order to compete with Freemason Nationalists.
Catholics are the enemy of everyone essentially who isn't Catholic. They are gay jihadists and would kill people who spoke about anything they didn't approve of. Hence the Freemasonry guilds that built cathedrals in the 1400/1500s were the intellectual elite during a time when intellectual pursuits could get you killed by the fag cult of Paul.

i wonder how many pagans are pedos.

Yes and no. Like, it encourages you not to start shit or get others hurt, but if you're not willing to shed blood for your family/friends/beliefs, you're not living up to your obligation.

As a [modern] druid myself, i'm going to have to ask proof. As in, not ruling it out, but the druidic groups of the time really were separate.
Freemasonry can *incorporate* alchemy, but in itself it doesn't bring alchemy up, other than being very similar to true (spiritual/psychological) alchemy.
Can't agree there. Alchemy was just a system which took in tonnes of other stuff. Plus, alchemy in the forms we know was all Christian, and started after Christianised Europe.
It really isn't. It's just a framing device. Nothing in Freemasonry surpasses or supplants any religion.
Agreed, but what were you saying about them having destroyed Freemasonry?

Thanks for the information, user.

haha
Then you don't know anything. Where are you getting your research from /fringe/ and youtube? Alchemy is just another version of European paganism which is the same thing as saying heretical philosophy/science/history''''

No you're not. No one is outside of your gammer world. But they used the title and symbolism in early British Freemasonry. I'm going to prove it because it takes like 5 minutes of trying and you should do that yourself, Druid

That sounds like a sales ploy to me. Religion is just Freemasonry for stupid people.

Catholics made their own versions. I believe the Scottish Rite is a Catholic sect, but can't remember. Their versions introduced mysterious levels of hierarchy (need to know bases)
There was a "Great Freemason Scare" in the mid-1800s in which the original groups were shut down for being "satanists" and temples were burned to the ground. Right before the time that Jews started to infiltrate financially and politically. This in my opinion was the death of Freemasonry, which was then re-memed by people like Albert Pike and Jewish/Catholic capitalists.

Zero as far as I know. It's not part of the faith. It's always Semitic religions that are pedos because they are obsessed with sexual deviance.

Books on the history of alchemy, mostly.
What exactly do you think those terms mean?
Duh, no one has been a druid for over a millennium. Thus i made the point of saying a modern one. You know OBOD, AHOD, and all other groups exist, right? They're hardly legit, but they try to be druidic.
Not in Masonry, but in many similar groups of the time.
Religion is about belief and the immaterial world. Freemasonry is about material world, and supporting our beliefs.
Naw, it's French/German, so it makes sense that you'd think that.
Which dissipated after Wilhelmsbad where everyone said, "let's do something better."
Aye, the Morgan Affair on the east coast of the USA. Nothing really changed ritual wise after that, except eastern USA lodges started doing business meetings in the 3rd degree instead of the 1st like everywhere else.

As much as i like attacking modern Freemasons for being a kike owned den of thieves that are antithetical to their ancient role, the propaganda which uses their symbols as the only basis for labeling them as being "evil" or "satanic" is outright idiotic and a fine example of disinfo shilling.

Hexagram ("Star of David") is not a Jewish symbol, they have just stolen it like everything else. It represents forces which stem from dualism, one coming from "above" (the mental/spiritual aspect of existence), one coming from "below" (the material/physical aspect of existence). Also the duality of will and reason, ego and self etc. They overlap at a central area, which is the world, both inner and outer. As above, so below. As within, so without.

The all seeing eye over the top of a pyramid represents God. Not any revealed god, but a hidden god that needs to be reached. The gap needs to be filled by transforming the earth into a physical heaven (or hell). It also represents one triangle of hexagram, where the top is forever outside of this world. Two ends/tops represent the mind of God, good and evil. Absolute reason and absolute will. The other ends represent dialectics, which are central to Masonic teachings.

The building of a Temple is entirely figurative, and corresponds to one's self-development, and learning. You are not building a temple TO God, you are building a temple as a bridge between you and God, so you and God are alike.

You should judge the one by his deeds, not his words. And symbols, in this context, are words.

It would make too much sense for Jews and Catholics to infiltrate their ancient enemies, turn the world into hell by using their name and symbols, and then offer themselves and their satanic god as saviors. Meanwhile people become scared of the symbols which might free them, as they are unjustly associated with evil. Just like the "snake" was, long time ago.

Good goyim.

Your grandfather probably fucking 9/10 models at every weekend rituals.

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Never read history books if you can help it… It's like reading a celebrity tabloid.
Paganism?
Euro-Paganism is what I wrote: heretical philosophy/science/history based on local customs of European peoples. Christianity is not traditional, it's more foreign than Communism.
Yeah… Before it got all Jewy, Freemasons had lots of wizard larping names
I imagine Zen temples are more Druidic than wiccas 2.0 but I don't know.
No religion is a belief in lies conjured up by a State power of some drug addicts. All material, even immaterial follows nature. That "spiritual world" shit is just a way to avoid paradoxical thinking (Plato) and fear of death (everyone else).

How else is one meant to learn?
You're using heretical wrong, and paganism is a broad term for non-mainstream religion. European pagan beliefs aren't necessarily any of the things you listed. Rather, they're just primitive religion.
I'm not going to get into this argument here.
Such as? Hell, it used to be even more basic and stripped back.
Naw, you're right. But at least a lot of the major ones spurn Wiccans and try to focus on the Caesar and Bede histories. And others are made up of Wiccans, so they're completely faggy.
Disagree. It's a belief in that which cannot be scientifically explained at present (like how Scandis thought lightning came from a dude called Thor) as otherwise.

Is there an anime about Freemasons? They have everything covered, from Orthodox Christianity to Egyptian wizards and vanilla occult stuff. But is there an animu where the grand master is actually a little girl!?

This needs to happen. It could be like a big war between the Craft and the OTO or something, like what Certain Magical Index should have been.

no it doesnt

I see.. the number one.

The lower degrees consist of good goys and good ol' boys and the higher degrees of satanists, crypto-kikes and other psychopathic vermin. When the day of the rope comes these international hyenas will all flee to israel or some other masonic state.

Which ones?

Or what Hellsing should have been.

A constructed collective like masonry puts itself before the lodge members. Collectives are internationalist/communist in nature and devalue their members identities and faiths by saying that more needs to be done to make "good men better". The incremental upgrade to make men better as they purport is to addon a deist narrative to make the values of a lodge member more malleable. The newer members try to be more like senior members to climb their occult ladder rather than dedicating to more religious study or true introspection. Egoism leads them to believe they must reach higher degrees or learn secrets to become better men. This form of flattery and ego stroking creates thr delusion that Pike spoke about; only the (((princes of masonry))) know masonry's true purpose, which is performing mental alchemy on the unaware. The truly deluded believe they are changing themselves but that couldn't be further from the truth. Freemasonry is a nation wrecking identity stripping collective.

Scottish Rite is German, with the high level shit being put in by Frederick the Great

stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/aasr_r33b.html

This nigger gets it.

Any mason above 4th is questionable, at best, and any above level 32 are obliged to partake in one murder per year to maintain their status.

Couple that with the "all faiths lead to enlightment" mantra of new agers and its easy to see masonry's internationalist/communist roots.

As much as i'd love to see Alucard in an apron and collar debating philosophy, Hellsing was pretty good as is.

Original > Ultimate

Source? Because I have quite a few A&AR things here which don't mention that. Plus, there are no 4th degrees. The A&AR starts and finishes with 32.

I should add that their are the Memphis Egyptian Rites, but Masons try and claim it's a scam since there's around 100 Degrees, but you have to think The Rothschilds and the like are doing rituals at The Great Pyramid or North Pole and shit like that

Not a scam, just not used. It's a fascinating history, but the gist is that it would have been used widely, but the guys in charge wanted the right to make Masons, so no Grand Lodge would let it operate anywhere, and it rapidly died out. It was then bought by the GOdF, who have let it rot.
Shame, really, some of the degrees are pretty rad, though most are just name only.

Seriously? So putting aside the possiblity that you are either staggeringly ignorant or a mason shill playing dumb, I would suggest starting with Bill Schneobelen and the image below.

Ultimately there are 360 degrees, but the one that sits in that position does all he can to convince the world that he does not exist.

Lol.
And your incredibly outdated American (southern USA) image fails to explain how those systems work. The one on the left, the A&AR is very different to the right ("York Rite"). On the right, each of those is a separate degree, fully conferred, with only three really being worked. So when you join the right, you become a Mark Master, then VPM, then MEM, and so on.
On the left, when you join, you go straight to the 32nd (in the Americas. Elsewhere you go straight to 18th, and it's restricted to Trinitarian Christians), and get told a summary of the other degrees. Afterwards, if you're willing to be a lighting technician, or a sound engineer for the Valley (as the meetings are called), you'll be given the honour of 33rd.

So before you talk shit, perhaps learn how things work?

So mason shill confirmed. Enjoy the membership decline faggot.

Indeed i shall. Far too much chaff bloated the numbers.
Enjoy your ignorance, my friend.

Quite the opposite of invitation only. You have to approach a mason and ask to join.

Not to mention that a brother can also now go Shriner straight from master mason…

Which is a good and a bad thing. I admire the Shrine for the charity work they do. But it means they infect the Craft with their follies, and artificially inflate the numbers by not contributing to lodges despite being on the books. Then they're against raising dues because they don't take part.

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Fuck outta here

Proto communist good goy club."Useful idiots"

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Wicca was a mistake.

Hmm.

So many masons in this thread now, care to clarify which of these are masonic handshakes? Is it just thumbs down over the knuckle?

So if I want to understand what Scientology is, i should read what its highest ranking leaders publish for my consumption as someone totally unaffiliated with it. Right.
And if I want to understand what Hillary is about, i should listen to her campaign speeches.
Good goy, do you really believe people are that dumb.

Everytime there is a thread about freemasonry there is one or several of you slimy cunts pushing propaganda. Want me to pinpoint all your fallacies ITT? Cant be arsed, and people are grown up enough to do that by themselves. You suck, you stink, noone likes you and the sooner you rot the better, you and all your brotherhood of shit.

Apples and oranges. Masonry is an open group, unlike Scientology. Masons are free to write about it, and their writings are published publicly. You can go to any Grand Lodge library and see this.
It still wouldn't be official, but you can also find the offical documents (rituals and BoC) in such libraries.
FTFY

Anyway, it seems that people like (((you))) just want to dislike Freemasonry, and ignore all evidence which goes against your self contrived notions.

In those photos? None. Just lazy handshakes.
There's a lot of misunderstanding about the grip anyway. It's one of the three types of secrets (the only things Masons can't divulge), and is only used in the degrees in conjunction with a pass word all for philosophical purposes of the ceremony. To imply that Masons use it outside of the ceremonies is entirely unfounded, as there are some idiots who don't listen to the degrees, but by and large, it's not a means to identify a Mason in public. Only certificates can do that.

Most masons work for money, but you might be able to find someone willing to do an internship for free.

kill all masons

You should read Proofs of a Conspiracy by John Robison, written in 1798. It details how the masonic order was initially an intellectual society that was hijacked by (((dissidents))) primarily in France and used to propagate huge subversion around the French Revolution.

Theres much to learn in this book and I would highly recommend it.

Oh yeah, Masons are the good guys. Not like their rule book layout exactly the bullshit subterfuge.we can plainly see.

So, which lodges could you recommend? Because the Masons i know are pretty much all neoliberal shills who push for "progressive" values and economic slavery. They are also a subversive 5th column acting against country's interests and promoting globalism, transnational banks/corporations, etc.

Where are the supposedly redpilled ones that act for the benefit of their fellow men?

Then they're morons who don't pay attention to the ceremonies. That's quite sad. Or they're French style ones.
But otherwise Traditional Observance lodges are the hardcore conservative ones. But it also depends on the area. Like, in Commiefornia, they tend to ignore the teachings and focus on liberal bullshit, because those are just the kinds of people you get there. I'm not sure how they handle the cognitive dissonance.

Please post a link to this supposed rulebook.

They are connected to French lodges i think, but also to British ones. They are economically conservative in the sense "let's piss on the poor people and make business connections with transnational corporations and organizations" but otherwise they are quite liberal.

Where could you find Traditional Observance lodges in Europe, south-east Europe to be more specific?

They're essentially all TO/EC on the continent. As long as they're not affiliated with the French Grand Orient, that is. The Grand Opera Symbollique de France, the Grand Loge National de France, and a few others are gold.

And what you described isn't economic conservatism, and certainly not the way Masonry teaches it. Masonry teaches prudence and frugality. Fucking people over might be the right thing short term, but rarely long term, and thus not prudent.

Without reading much of this thread I'm going to just share one of my experience with a freemason.

He's an older gentleman, globally quite known in the area of his profession. We had a beer and talked about a lot of things, eventually politics… and first thing he does is he names the jew. First thing. Now of course he wasn't Holla Forums-tier ready to gas them, but everything about big business operations, our country's internal politics and global conflicts had jews "jewing" according to him.

So while freemasonry in general is probably some low-tier larp-kikery, being a freemason doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I grew up in a family that all the males were Master Masons and all the Females were Eastern Stars. I was a Rainbow Girl myself but chose not to follow that path. I still probably have more insight than many though.

There is an unlimited amount of information about Freemasonry and all it's various branches, not everything is secret. Can you be any more specific on what you're interested in?

This is the truest bit of information I've read yet. It's pretty common knowledge their Motto is 2B1A1: To be one ask one. Sometimes asking is much more productive than wild speculation.

He was a semite, brown skin.

A lot of people in my family are freemasons, I've been to many dinners, meetings, etc.

Honestly. Maybe some high level masons in the south of illinois are on some "evil conspiracy shit" near springfield where they gather, but the vast majority are honestly harmless, donation collecting old people who just want to help children/terminally ill. Cancer, etc.

Hell 70% of being a free mason is finding new free masons these days.
White people of good standing are harder and harder to find.
Less and less people wanting to join.

The lodge here lowered their standards a while ago, you don't need to memorize a single line from any book now to get in.

Really sad, actually. Despite what you read, and what they put on history channel they are nice guys who just help people through charity for the most part, I know it sounds boring, and totally legal.. thats because it is.