idk if you people have seen this quiz, found it in /r9k/, either they all are basically fascist or the quiz is terribly biased to the right…
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it's a little long, but i thought it would be interesting to see how this place does.
My result:
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I'm roughly half as leftist as you but still feel like a lefty. Am I still allowed to be here?
you have nothing to worry about, check out the /r9k/ thread
These questions are fucking stupid and don't even relate badly to left and right. Almost all of them are about race, which the creator is clearly obsessed with, the rest being very vague questions or simplistic notions on how real life works, i.e. "culture".
In other cases, a proposition could be potentially meaningful, but is obviously meant to have stormfag implications based on the edgelord site. For example, there's one about whether some serious criminals are pathological and not just products of their environment. Mental illnesses like psychopathy are often hereditary, so this is accurate, but we all know he's really implying that being black makes you a murder happy demon.
Most egregiously, he is clearly a dumbass murican that thinks not being a stormfag makes you a Democrat.
Seriously, everything listed is a false dichotomy or incredibly loaded. He has put zero effort into trying to understand political philosophy and believes everything he reads on anime imageboards.
Judging by his long list of unrelated programming languages he supposedly knows, he's probably an undisciplined neckbeard as well.
yeah, its pretty bad, I thought it was just me not being an american but i guess it's just a shitty quiz
totally right
Well firstly, the quiz's questions center on whether your a stormfag or not.
Secondly, the definitions of "Liberty" and "Equality" vary wildly. Left-wingers in 1789 probably were far more nationalistic than the Right-wingers of that time period, since equality was meant to be amongst the citizenry of the nation, a unit of sovereignty that was contrasted with monarchy. There is nothing distinguishing racial vs. cultural equality, or gender equality, or political equality. And, all of these would be different. The Russian Empress Catherine, for example, would lean towards gender equality, but she would be distraught at normal working citizens taking over France and establishing a republic. The same can be said for the French revolutionaries, most of whom would prefer to keep universal suffrage for males only. The hierarchical right-wingers were in favor of nations being subsumed by a cosmopolitan web of monarchies. (Which is what happened after Vienna.) Hell, the hardcore reactionaries often despised western civilization for it's Enlightenment values, often praising oriental monarchies as more in tune with their spirituality. (Reminds me of so-called "leftists" doing the same now a days.)
Liberty, for most of history, was not contrasted with duty. In fact, duty was considered to be a part of liberty due to the influence of Roman and Athenian republicanism in Left-Wing political thought, ESPECIALLY during the Enlightenment. This is why you have the Levee en Masse being implemented, the contrast of the civic duty of the free citizen with the apathetic and disenfranchised subject of monarchies. So, is Liberty the liberty of the ancients (aforementioned) or the liberty of the moderns?
Speaking of ancients, how is science (which probably falls under both Modernity and Material on your scale) inherently opposed to tradition? You have folks like Thomas Jefferson, who approve of the Enlightenment, who also often bring up old, classical works and promote traditions. In fact, the Enlightenment was very much based on Greco-Roman tradition. What if scientific discovery IS part of a nation's tradition?
And, how is science connected with wanting material wealth? You can both be an avid scientist and be a principled idealist. You can have very religious people who are corrupt and desire only wealth and power.
Basically, the main issues with your spectrum are that you have too much connection between different ideas in an effort to group them into "Team Left" and "Team Right", and somehow you STILL failed to even represent the sort of political differences that occurred during the French Revolution, let alone in any time period.
The better approach is to have different sliders that exist not to be components of a "Left vs. Right" narrative or a "Liberty vs Oppression" narrative but rather show key aspects of how someone would run society.
Political Liberty (Liberty of the Ancients) vs. Political Hierarchy
Civil Rights (Liberty of the Moderns) vs. Authority
Multiculturalism vs. Monoculturalism / Globalism vs. Nationalism
Nurture vs. Nature (which is one aspect that works, I guess.)
Oh and have a scale for economics. Free Markets vs. Planned Economy. Distributed property ownership vs. concentrated property ownership. Worker's Self-Management vs. Taylorism.
Just some ideas.
Definitely too many questions on race
great ideas otherwise.
I should have quit right then, sadly there was no "don't care option for any of the questions.