Are antifa just Liberals who want to bash poor white people? Why don't they attack police?

Your point?

They do.

Well it seems to me that the point of antifa is fight a symptom, and not the disease. As a socialist I'm inherently anti-fascist but I don't see the use in fighting individuals who believe in a false narrative that was fed to them not solely by themselves but of an abstract entity known as Capitalism.

Yes. Antifa keeps the fascists at bay. Before antifa they would attack leftists a lot which made organizing really hard.

you need to fight fascism because the first thing they do when they're strong enough is go attack leftists
get you a man who can do both

You can't organize if people are too afraid to come to your events because fascists always trash it.

So you'd rather let fascism take hold? Sometimes the symptom is of more immediate concern than the root problem, or it takes a life of its own. Facism does oppose capitalism, you know. In Europe, where the fascist movement is gaining populariyt, the antifa needs to fight them before having any hope of establishing socialism.

It also provides solid organization for leftists.

Why would they burn down their own homes and the workplaces of their parents?

They beat up people whom they percieve as being fascists. Such as eastern European migrant workers because they have shaved heads. Never mind the fact that eastern Europe had and still has a problem with lice.

Sauce?

No most antifa are poor white people retard.

Shit like that happens in Sweden. They also attack lolbertians that otherwise share their stance on social issues as fascists. Sometimes they attack without any pretense that the people they are beating up are fascist because they just feel like being violent.
youtube.com/watch?v=IJ55KyNrO6A

Are they? Citation needed.

oh won't someone PLEASE think of the petty bourgs!

Why don't they ever bash Salafi/Wahhabis is what I've always wondered.

Do I have to do everything myself?

I wish antifa weren't so gay.

Are there any videos of antifa actually winning a fight? I only ever see them get beat up, besides that one video where they outnumbered that nationalist on a subway like 10 to 1. I would like them a lot more if they would beat the shit out of fascists like the nationalists seem to do to them so often. It would also be nice if they burned more businesses.

Pacifist cucks please go, if fascists ever take control you will wish you killed them when they were still just a fringe movement protesting on the streets, they will not show you any mercy whatsoever if you're just a non-violent leftist.

They usually win fights. It's just that the fights they lose are the ones that show up on Holla Forums.

Antifa beats the Nazi's all the time, they just don't go spamming it all over the internet the way the Nazi's do. I know we certainly won when I was involved in a big dust up between antifa and some Nazis.

meant for>>795133

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justify yourself

Why wouldn't I be antifa?

you should be neither trot or antifa

Opposing mass migration =/= fascism.

Most fascist aren't poor the majority of them are well of and they are paid by the corporations

Gas yourself punktards

At the centre of every fascist political party ever theres a wealthy/middle class core.

Not here, they don't. They're quite happy to do whatever police ask them.

Hello Holla Forums. Also where do i join antifa so i can kick OPs ass?

Antifa catfished a buddy of mine. The guy is an actual autist living with his mother.
Granted, he is a nationalist and a christian, but I have never heard him say anything racist or remotely fascist.
I best guess is that the anti-fas saw him liking a anti-islamist facebook page, but didn't pick up on his autism. They then baited him in to agreeing with racist statements by pretendig to be a nazi-qt on facebook.
The guy is not exactly popular with women, so he was prepared to play along in order to get a real date with a real girl.
I know, I know, but autism.
Anyway after chatting for some time the girl wants to meet AFK. My friend instantly agrees to meet up in the remote location she specifies, but suprise, it's a gang of masked thougs with baseball bats, next stop hospital.
They really stopped fascism that day.

Anti-Autistische Aktion

This is a 100% true story that actually happened.

Where?

Because Antifa is a first-world organization that only goes after easy targets.

There is no Anticap because the capitalists actually have power.

Ever heard of socialism, comr8?

That's quite a funny story m8, even if it didn't happen.

Is it even worth engaging with this kind of bullshit?

Hehehe, that's pretty funny.

It actually did. Not saying all antifas are violent goons, but some definitly are.
The movement as a whole seem to be ignoring this problem while streching the definition of fascism to encompass any anti-immigration, nationalist or anti islam stances.
I don't like them.

No it isn't and your buddy deserved a beating. Luckily for him that story didn't happen.

Okey, well that's a relief.

They make krauts perma butthurt and are a fun bunce of lads.

She's cute!

What's your problem with Germans?

Everything they believe is a spook

Opposing free speech to say hateful things is a spooky thing to do

This is why I doubt I'm autistic. Usually when people bait me I just say something even more offensive

Free speech is a spook, so no.

>>>/reddit/

They're rebels for the status quo

Hate speech is a spook

Well, yah, but Holla Forums will be rebels for the status quo in 10-20 years as well if current trends follow.
It's dialectics son.

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They already are rebels for the status quo you brain dead tankie

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Nothing wrong with violently suppressing Nazis free speech as long it's a progressive grassroots movement while the state officially supports free speech

That said, antifa only serves liberalism not really advancing leftism

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When was the last time you saw the news call for racial nationalism or for RWDS to hunt down degenerates? Do you also think moonman rap videos are real mcdonald's commercials?

That only makes nazis look sympathetic in the eyes of the masses.

I could be wrong, but aren't Fascists and the Left competing for the same support base - namely the poor and disenfranchised? Every worker the bougie fuckers behind groups like the TWP get their claws into is another worker who won't fight with us. One has to clean up the fash to gain power with the workers.

Also, beating on Fascists makes the work of the Left easier. Every far -right rally cancelled, every goon squad put out of commission, and every racist sent slinking home is one less foe to deal with.

Liberalism is devouring itself, and its failure is easy to see. Attacking the centre isn't needed when it's doing a nice job killing itself amidst contradictions and chaos. The real fight IMO is for who gets to be the alternative - us or them. Antifa is an important part of making sure it's us.

WHAT KIND OF TWISTED REALITY IS THIS??

Anarkids attack police, even when there is no reason to.

yes we hate the state yet we want it to tel people what to say

Pol was shilling for and supportive of Chris Dorner.

There was antifa (or just anarchists) in Egypt during their revolution revently who basically did get into fights with Islamist supportrrs

Some German antifa joined the YPG…..

Ehh….no.

What exactly is the difference between fascism and communism guys?

As I understand it under communism all the businesses are owned by the government and under fascism all the businesses are also owned by the government.

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Since when are Nazis fascist? Fascism actually has a meaning and is not just a buzzword or synonym for tyranny.

the Not Socialism isn't Fascism meme needs to die I agree that people throw around Fascism as a word for stuff they don't like but Nazism is Fascism whether you like it or not. It has all the hallmarks of a fascist ideology; just because it was more race-centric than vanilla Fascism doesn't make it no longer Fascism

:')

Is anyone ever going to give a decent response to the extreme hypocrisity of calling oneself an anarchist and yet opposing freedom of speech? Any group of people able to violently put down people expressing an opinion they don't like is a state, whatever they call themselves.

Dude not everyone who criticises or distances him/herself from the antifa is a Holla Forumsype. I myself went to demonstration with them and my verdigt is:
They are a group of diferrent individuals, who apart from sharing some common ground on certain topics, have different views and opinions. Some of them are peacefull and think and act rational. A lot off them are reactionary. Some are full of liberal idpol. And some off them are just violent idiots who want to riot in the streets. There is no "the antifa", because they are following the concetps of self autonomy and voluntary self organisation. So The antifa is a lot of things, because they are alot of different people and dont have any sort of actual hirarcy or central organisation.

BULL.
SHIT.

They even spray graffiti on their 'turf', they distribute flyers. They post all over facebook and even diaspora. Hell, even reddit.

that is aimed at the "they don't spam", they do.

But they don't beat the evil nazis all that much.
They "beat" objects all the time, though, by vandalizing them.

No, they aren't liberal, they are #truecomrades

nothing wrong with antifa
youtube.com/watch?v=iDmnC47Q4Wc

When was the last time you saw the media calling for a nationless, moneyless, stateless and classless society in which the means of production was controlled democratically by all of society?

All Nazi's deserve a baseball bat to the head.

I quite clearly meant they don't spam the same footage of them fighting on youtube the way Nazi's do. And yes they beat the Nazi's plenty. I would know since I've participated in it.

Sweet, never seen or head of that before.

Good

Fuck I meant to say Anarchists and Communists, not Anarchists and Liberals.

They are terrible. Hipster anarchism needs to die

The police protect them.

So they really fixed the German economy?

kek

They are mostly edgy liberals with no theory, but anyone who beats up facists is good in my book.

Good

God damn it, I hate when people post that picture.

THAT
IS
NOT
MAX
STIRNER

If you believe that's a picture of Max then you're just as spooked. It shows an historian in a French military uniform and Max was never in the military.

This

And this nigga ain't Max Stirner either.

Ohhh bOOOIII here WE go again!!!

Serioustalk:
Shut the fuck up, only because your local antifa in burgertown is just complete shit, that dosnt mean the whole concept, never works, is total shit, or works the same way everywhere…

Learn to fucking differentiate…

The Green Party isnt Antifa you moron…

Everything I don't like is

Where does the "antifa are liberals" meme come from?

Holla Forums

The fact the spout the same no borders, love thy enemy bullshit.

i can barely tell the difference between antifa and NPD anymore, they have more in common than not, with the most important factor being that they are both infiltrated by V-schutz

youtube.com/watch?v=mvklBMXgSa0

lul

ich bin Deutsch du spasti, ihr seid alle behindert und arbeitet für den Staat ob ihrs wahrhaben wollt oder nicht

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Where is the liberalism in that?

also

Antifas scare me tbh every time I see them outside they are loud, drunk and have barking killer dogs with them

Why do people always have to be so fucking loud. It's like they never lost their "run around and scream all day I'm so fucking hyper" energy all children have.

WE R LOUDER AND OUR DOGS ARE BARKIER

krasses argument
allet klärchen, und tschüss jetz, hast dich scheinbar im board geirrt
(nicer mover, schonmal so aufsetzten das eigene "argument" dass du alles was ich sagen würde einfach discarden kannst…top A diskurs-skills

honestly sounds more like punks…
(which are often antifa, but not vise versa)

Takbir dir auch mein toleranter Kamerad

gg du knecht, der rest sind irgendwelche grünen lib-spacken…

Yo, krautz. Speak english will ya?

1. yes, they're mostly liberals or anarchists but what's really the difference lol
2. they also want to bash turkish nationalists since they have some relevance in germany, and they do, it's just a rare sight
3. they do attack the police as well but try to avoid it as this would criminalize the organisation on the long run

Du begreifst die Ironie nicht, wenn du dieses Zitat bemühst.
Wenn er vom Faschismus im Gewandt des Antifaschismus spricht, dann meint er damit dich.
Du versuchst den Faschismusbegriff inhaltsentleert auf Antifaschismus anzuwenden um dich selbst wiederum als "wahren" Antifaschisten auszugeben.

Aber ein kleiner dummer Holla Forumsacke kann so weit gar nicht erst denken, vergebene Mühen es einem ausgemachten Trottel wie dir erklären zu wollen.

Ugh, as a lefty the neoliberal zeitgeist and sjw's really frustrate me. being lumped together by the right, with those guys, makes my skin crawl…

What does Holla Forums consider fascist/fascism? Anything that's to the right of B████ ██████?

Really B e r n i e S a n d e r s is censored?

Fascism is radical nationalism.

Though many people use it to describe any illiberal ideology that arises in a liberal society when capitalism is in crisis, saving capitalism by full-on authoritarian and supplanting liberal values with its own.

Sanders is a traitor. In classic SocDem fashion.

When liberals complain loudly enough the term is meaningless and when fascists complain loudly enough the term is meaningless. Some of the latter want to put run of the mill nationalism on a philosophical pedestal outside the political plane. The definition of fascism is already loaded with political mis-education and buttrage. All I know is I know a fascist when I see one.

Sanders isnt a traitor you politically illiterate willfully retarded mongrel, he has always been a warmonger, a suck-up, hillary-lite essentially.

Do you fags even into voting records, the man was always a joke

do you into memes friend? because your autism is showing

Nope. Anti-fa are made up of loads of ideologies. Doesn't have to be far left or liberal or anarchist or whatever. You could be a fucking conservative and be antifa.

Do they not attack police?

fuck off, a lot of you retards were defending him for a long time because ultimately many of you are just scum sucking western liberals that like to dress up

there was some dismantling of the bern here, credit where its due

useful idiots of the big capital and system, junkie stoner druggies who beat the shit of poorfags being petty bourgeoisie or from good homes and bored of that, most of them I'd add are anarchists as no serious communist would even join that shit (original source of their symbol was communist tho, like anti-fascist circle was socialist and opposed monarchism and communism too, something they forgot)

here in pooland the "political critique" (commie hatting sjw sozis) invited the antifa anarcho-nazis from jermoney, you know they have that shit like anti-deutsche and it's ackthually fund by their politics and state which is proofed pretty much xD

now what they do? they go and beat polish II commonwealth soldier reconstructionist group members

what for? no idea, they allegedly found some weapons in the press headquarters where they fled afterwards

now same "political critique" enforces some fullblown sjw who wants to invite rapefugeess here (when we have enough banderafugees already) called "adrian zandberg" - guy wasn't even buy in poland and is a danish jew, the party they call "together" DESPISE not joining invitation of the post-commie sozis $LD (yeah called after the drug I guess) XD

JUST

find one difference

no idea how those faggits can claim to be sXe? you know like, hitler was first one xD, goering forbad vivisection

the word "degenerate" and "decadent" would be in place, if not for the fact of Holla Forums types appropriating this and redpill (/x/ mene oslo we on ylilauta have enforced ironically), so I'd use the polish word degrengolada

how those freaks wants to be the rural prole defenders when they beat them and whatever system imposing on them they oppose? no idea
caviour left, that word is generally right
when the simple folk have to live with effect of multiculti rich bourgeoisie and other shabbes goyim live in well protected areas with private bodyguards, are you surprised of what breivik did still? I haven't cried after those rich politicain "children", dobrze że zdechli
(breivik is internet mene hero of polish internets)

as for the 2nd I guess it's an answer of the USaian soldiers parading with SS banner? sick
kurts are wierd, I prefer assyrians myselve cuz they're natives ackthually, kurts belongs on the western greater iran not nineveh, aramea or anatolia

cant corner the dorner