If you live in California then vote No on prop 53...

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good goy!

Public transport in the USA is a scheme to move niggers around at taxpayer's expense and eventually only niggers will use it because no human wants to be stabbed, to have to smell BO or shit and spunk on the seats, to hear their noise pollution. Don't fall for it. If you want to support public transportation, make sure the train terminates at a death camp.

im voting no on every prop besides 54

that is prop 63 (which you should obviously vote no on)

Jews only want you to think that so you'll buy another car. Also: CAHSR and CAHSR funded projects (ie Caltrain, ACE Foreward, etc) use private sector UTU employees and not SEIU pinkos that strike all the time.

Prop 58 the one that forces beaners to speak spanish

for now. And nobody buys American cars in the first place except spics and niggers; anything decent is made in either Germany or Japan.

well golly gee I better go buy a Tesla. Don't worry goy, all that proprietary software is there to keep you safe! I mean, you wouldn't want someone fixing their own car, they might break something.

I toed the party line for the most part. I'm nowhere close to any train routes, and the faggots in the city decide what happens, no matter how I voted.

How should we vote on 59?

depends, do you want facebook and google to continue dumping cash into political campaigns?

I think I heard about that one on the radio. The ad was some shitty non-white children talking about having an edge in the "global economy". Fucking kikes I can't wait until the first ever holocaust happens.

So if they're a darker shade, they are prohibited to talk English?

If you're talking about Caltrain electrification, then you are correct. But CAHSR is a larger program. On that note, Caltrain electrification begins in January (though it technically already began, as power transformers have already been put in). It would have happened twenty years ago, if it was not for BART wanting their SFO extension which took all the money. BART's extension to San Jose Diridon is also why there is no rebuilt Dumbarton rail bridge.

Also the upshot is that once Caltrain finishes their electrification, all the old rolling stock will be dumped off onto ACE which will mean greatly improved central valley transit.

California checking in. Already voted. We have a lot of shit on the ballot this year, including an insane ammo-control measure that forces us to get a fucking federal background check before buying ammo. We also have two choices for Senate: Feminist Democrat Whore or Whore Democrat Feminist.

I voted for You-Know-Who, skipped the Senate vote, voted for the campaign finance reform shit that will never happen and for fixing potholes in my city.

What sucks is how we have very few red-vs-blue issues here, and if we do we're deep on the defensive, such as with the ammunition shit. Like ganged up niggers can't find the Nevada border.

Fuck. This is a really nice place to live, too.

kamela harris is a far bigger bitch than sanchez

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You mean those things that take wealth from the future to be wasted in the present?

kamela harris = nigger from the bay area and fienstien's chosen successor
sanchez = a fucking beaner

The options aren't great, but god damn do not EVER vote for norcal politicians, they're pure cancer. Would you rather have a chicago style democrat or an SJW that actually believes the shit they spew? Likewise the only reason I'm registered as a Democrat is to vote for Viligarosa over Newsom in 2018 (before anyone asks I already voted by mail for Trump, as fruitless as it is here in CA).

nig noggs don't use high speed trains

Yeah, who the fuck invests in benefits only our children will use?

it's this.

if i was generous, then i couldn't say you were wrong. in 1920. which is when the projects were white. now, however, and certainly after the affirmative voting shit in the 1950/60s, 'public' transport is anti-white. it is almost entirely anti-white. it used exclusively for anti-white, by anti-white, even in relatively high white areas. it's a terrible situation.

as whites get jew'ed down, the men use the buses in silence and despondence, and the women fall into more whoredom.

public transport gets funding, gets station deployment, and gets ticketed assistance all by ((((high-state))) direction. it makes people more poor while being supposedly to help the poor. those that benefit from this cuckoldry of public transport is almost exclusively the opposite of how it is sold and legislated. and it is legislated, coerced, funded by money printing debt prostitution peddlers, so none of this is any surprise to those that have been watching.

every last valid action, when done by an invalid source, is invalid. period. transport based on trade, trade is based on the intrinsic ability to produce with surplus and confess truth to agreement of exchange. if you are lesser, then the trade is lesser, and at some point (quite quickly) the transport becomes a lie.

public transport is ship that is a lie. it is not my public, and the traders that come off of it are not me. they are net loss.

it's like unions, post offices, teachers, even banks etc : sure, at one point, yes. but these things have long been not only not what they were, but used exclusively to lie, so as to steal, so as to eat, what the parasitic frankensteins in them cannot make.

think of it as LARPing on a societal scale. public transport is just another stage, built and jewed away to cuck production, all so that the invalid can play make believe.

i'm not sure the price of peace is supposed to be capitulation. because that's not peace, and anyone looking back now can see it. provided they aren't wearing libre-glasses, etc.

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yes, but the difference is that transit extracts a use fee and thus usually recovers 50-60% of it's operating expenses vs 0% for highways. This is also why I'm in favor of highway tolling and road privatization.

I voted no to that rail abortion when they brought it up, and I'm voting yes on 53. They've gone way overbudget on a disgustingly expensive project and they don't deserve a blank check for future expenditures.
Kill yourself, OP.

There's good debt and bad debt, user. Good debt is for shit that pays for itself or saves you money, like a business loan or a mortgage. Bad debt is for shit that just costs, like ordering pizza with a credit card.

School bonds are usually good debt, because they build and maintain essential services. Transportation bonds, most municipal bonds, and major project bonds are generally good.

The alternative is to either finance essential projects through direct taxation or deficit spending, or to do without them. Or, I guess the magical Free Market Fairy will make it so for us somehow, because everybody is happy to pay tolls to fucking drive on the fucking road.

protip: vote no on all of the shit props this year

51, 52, 55, 56, 58, 60, 61, 63, 65, 66, and 67.

That sure looks like a nice place to get raped on

I've been on a bus one time in my life and can tell you it wasn't kikes who were the ones causing problems on it.

This is wrong, in fact the entire reason Los Angeles was cucked out of Measure J money was because the black bus riders union claimed trains were too white and didn't want their communities gentrified. This is also why niggers keep shutting down BART (note: they attempted to shut down the capital corridor once but got curb checked by the private railroad security)

proof:

la.streetsblog.org/2012/10/30/bus-riders-union-transit-justice-not-corporate-welfare-no-on-measure-j/

We are now in a situation where niggers want buses, but not trains because that invites white people in who don't tolerate their shit.

worse. bank-created prostitution of debt ridden towns, counties, and states was the stage. then, with each subsequent bubble and pop, a new massive drive to 'get 'merica back to work' comes in, rolling in each time by the same (((people))) who made the mess. they then drive more debt, tearing up roads and works that aren't broken enough for replacement, give brand new roads and wealth… that now are owned, sold off, and all prior time and wealth spent is gone.

worse, because you loose the wealth from before replacement, and the man hours of wealth spent on replacement, all to now owe even more futures. to the very (((people))) that made the problems, sold as the solution.

for the more diversity-resistant cities, these methods and public works is how the last white areas are being broken.

t. north eastern region.

there is some truth to this, but only in areas with prior existing old rail works that didn't get shutdown by auto companies.

the new extensions will be like public buses: not for your public.

Los Angeles is famous for physically removing it's entire streetcar network in the 1960s. Measure J was a means of speeding up reconstruction that had already started with Measure M in 2008 (which blacks were also against).

See this post right here? This is a shitlib masquerading as one of us by denigrating the liberating works of white men and reclassifying them as Jewish in order to get us to knee-jerk accept his coonmunal proposals. The automobile is the white man's chariot - plebs and niggers use public transport in the same way faggots use communal showers. Public transport is a sewer that transports subhuman waste across the globe.

You've described the car industry perfectly. Think of all the people buying new cars, they are now beholden to a (((bank))) directly. And the car industry expects them to (trade) in every five years to keep the cash flowing. And it all runs on imported oil. The same can't be said of mass transit, especially if it's well planned and built (which it typically is).

Consider the following: if you can't even feel comfortable riding inside a shared vehicle, then you're not living in a real community. People close up into their cars and suburban homes, which is where (they) can more easily sell you crap you don't need (every home having it's own pool, exercise bike, home (theater), etc).

The autism-rail project was cancer when it began and it's cancer now. Everyone that thought it was a good idea should be hanged.

No, I don't live and have never lived in Faggotfornia

FAGGOTFORNIANS GO HOME

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN WASHINGTON

Keep buying sandnigger oil and making those faggots rich, goy!

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let the beaners and niggers walk

Apparently you haven't been keeping up with current events, but USA is the #1 producer of oil now.

If you live in CA, you should be voting no on EVERYTHING! Not one prop is good. Every prop is there to fuck you, the voter, over. For example, prop 64, legalization of MJ. This shitty state could use the money, believe me. But it allows the creation of tv commercials. Commercials that have been banned for cigarettes since 1970.

Every single prop has been designed to trick people.

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blacks for, or against, anything, at all, is invalid. discard.

this is about what these things are, not how they appear to initially help XYZ. i admit non-familiarity with cali economic systems. but i have seen (sans rail) the same shit go down intimately in the north east. it all went down very badly. horribly badly. because time ticked away, and those loans did what they were designed to do.

if debt exceeds too much, then capitulation happens. in more complete analysis, it's capitulation by economic class – it doesn't happen all at once. by the time you see the entire city go under, again and again, it's clear the stages in retrospect. loans (as future debt) and bonds (as future ownership… of nonperformance and debt) are not exempt from any of this. total debt is total debt, and one 0.25 basis point move and you're done. you're entire city is done. after which, the city raises local extraction to pay for the failed works, right when shit needs to go the opposite direction and losses cut. and one by one, business fail. first by the public transport areas, which now need more stations 'closer to XYZ', which magically get them, and so accelerating defaults and blight and business failures.

it's not like some of what you say isn't true, but it's not truth. it lacks completeness and is selective in memory. cali, having more capital illusions, should be more careful, not less.

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California is just doing what your state did decades ago with pic related. However CA only has it so bad because there is no modern rail connection between norcal and socal (Tehachapi Pass has a 20 mph speed restriction and the coastal route is full of freight traffic).

Also if you ever want your free cascadia to ever come true, having infrastructure that doesn't require imported oil (like it was before the jews ripped it up in the 1980s but that rant is railfan tier and not worth repeating here) would probably be useful.

Let's making something absolutely crystal clear here: if you even live in modern day Sodom, you are a fucking cut up dick sucking faggot and deserve to fall into the ocean. California represents everything that is wrong with this country and anyone who has spent more than a year there is irredeemably POZ'd. Trying to improve its infrastructure is like being in South Africa and helping it limp along.

If you can't afford a car, you are shit-tier.

this has never been the case, if only because niggers buy crap like soda and burgers from business adjacent the station

(this is assuming we are talking about actual "stations" per say ie for a train and not just bus stops)

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Resident Commiefornian, High Speed Rail is poorly planned and executed. The train will still have to stop for 10-15 minutes at different cities, just like AMTRAK does right now. The cities in the valley are laid out along the rail system anyway, specifically if you were to ride a horse from say.. Fresno to Madera, it would take nearly all day, but only an hour or so by train.. also filling stations for steam engines were laid out that way too. All in all, the high speed rail was, and still is, overhyped, and will be underdelivered. It will be a fast track to and from Corcoran for the penitentiary there.

Maybe you just stop being a poorfag

Notice why SA isn't dead: it has lots of railroads most of which are electrified. For comparison, Zimbabwe is collapsing at the moment because their railways cannot afford fuel or repairs which is causing shortages of everything as businesses (and hospitals) can't get deliveries because roads are so clogged. This is also why Transnet is buying railrunners from the US, because they now need to transload trailers at the border rather than having another train pick up cargo.

idk why it rotates all of those talk to apple.

Actually the real reason for CAHSR is so that San Jose can annex Fresno and Los Angeles can annex the high desert (Palmdale) and Bakersfield. It stems from the land ((((speculation)))) that fuels the state government.

You're missing the point - Sloth Africa is overrun by niggers and they are faced with two choices 1) remove watermelon or 2) let the country fall. White people should stop propping up shitskins. California, likewise, is full of shitskins and POZ. Any righteous person of good moral character should not be contributing their hard won income supplementing the breeding of beaners and dindus. Giving them public transport is only spreading the infection around.

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I'm not a socialist

Look at it like this: do you want more people moving out of California or do you want the state's carrying capacity to be maximized as much as possible. Roads are already at their limit, further expansion of them isn't possible. Same for airports (particularly as it pertains to gate space for regional flights).

Marxists are so obsessed with building super trains to nowhere. Trains should only be for cargo. Poor people take Greyhound. Everyone else drives or flies. That's the American way.

If Californians want to get to any place worth visiting then they fly the fuck over the rest of you guys' states.

Get the fuck out of my face with that shit, Herr Hitler probably never had (pic related) definition of "German".

look, we'll agree on the futures motor aspect being no future, but not the future train aspect? what's going on – what are you really for?

autocratic should be, and must be, and quite frankly is, the only way out. solving a lack of economics by creating more dependent 'solutions' isn't economics and isn't going to help any one. least of all the shit skins, true. but also not help any of the current or future men.

i don't think rail is exempt. certainly not in light of all the endless peddling on other muskegon rails and make-work trojan horses being advanced right now. i'd be far more hesitant than you are. i don't know what the answer is, but it certainly is not spending each god given second building works that no one gets to keep, and only extract future unlimited seconds at unlimited rates. that's not trade, that's desperation, and desperation being answered by a desert oasis mirage in a hall of mirrors.

all efforts should be in bringing production, services, and infrastructure into – god help us – keiretsu like protections: areas within which the men are as autocratic as possible, owning their own means of production without debt, tied carefully into the jew debt prostitution dollar spigot printing presses – as close to central printing as possible. the goal being elimination of debt, preservation of man hours and work and stores of wealth within, as this is the only savings that is possible.

train system builds may fit into that, but not like this, and not this big, and not with that current account tied into taxation. that's only valid if you're planning to go full mobile when shit hits the fan, but the bank systems are not going to release that debt, so there's no where to run. thus, again, i don't think the train, done this way, specifically with stupidly high debt levels done higher now – which is what the proposition aims to do – is any 'way' at all.

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wow someone took the San Joaquin once and realized it was shit. Most people would agree. This is EXACTLY why people voted for CAHSR in the first place, because it aims to fix this problem entirely.

also out of all the posts in this thread, you're the only one who has legitimately got me butthurt so good job

Continued.

already covered that.

economic system analysis is quite clear. adjacent boom, on false signal, with subsequent false build-outs, then signal inevitable collapse (because not real), and all ownership prior and post lost. and so it spreads. q.e.d. also, stations and routes aren't free, are planned, and etc already covered as well.

finally, no body cares about niggers. no body cares. they're random stochastic motion agents that find any excuse they can to nig. if anti-white soros-speak allows them to rape, they rape with anti-white soros-speak. nig doesn't matter – they're merely a fucking ugly sludge. not relevant to what has, is, and will happen. this is about public being one the lease to a doomed lease as clear as day, that people are only even remotely considering because they're all so damn desolate. not a good plan.

Why would San Jose need to annex Fresno for? Cheap mexican labor? It's seriously just farmland for as far as the eye can see outside of City limits.

Because you Commiefornians keep do the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.

Your punishment must be more severe. May you be trapped in public transportation with a gang of blacks.

I get having problems with virtually everything else on the ballot but there is literally no reason for this not to pass.

Yes exactly: cheap labor and cheap homes. The idea is that someone would be able to buy a home in Fresno then commute in using a local commuter train to San Jose. 150 miles is a long way, but it's only 90 minutes (the general upper-limit of what planners consider acceptable) at 100 mph. Palmdale already has a rail link to LA, though a shitty one (LA also wants an express train to Las Vegas, which making a junction at Palmdale is cheaper than figuring out all the politics behind a Cajon Pass rebuild to the east. Also for reference the chinese-funded xpresswest project died six months ago).

Remember that San Jose itself used to be all farmland, I'm just old enough to remember it. The farmers in the Central Valley will continue to sell out to developers and make shitloads of money doing so (especially now that all the beaners they've imported have five or six anchor babies nearing adulthood).

Also, for reference once CAHSR is complete San Jose will become the new norcal economic hub, not SF/Oakland. Follow the money, the old money in SF (ie Fienstien) is dying off while the new money in Santa Clara County takes over.

Looks nice on the outside. This is what it looks like on the inside. The millions of Mohammads and Jamals conquering europe will teach europeans why Americans hate public transportation.

Prop 64 (legalization of cannabis) will decimate the only areas of CA that are decent (north of SF). If 64 gets voted in it will be seen as the "gold standard" for every other state, and states will start to legalize rapidly. It also makes you pay $300/ a sqft if you want to grow for personal use, and makes the licensed growers (who sell to stores) employ minorities.

Why anyone would vote for something gavin newsom made is beyond me.

this is stupid. you agree to all aspects, and then say the train shit is still good. what?

if the goal is to, as the prior farmers did, systematically flip the every last rock in the entire region, and leave the now hipster afro spic chinks and anyone else without foresight behind as the 'public' now having to pay the tab, then fine. just make sure you understand: the banks will flip the local, to the state, to the federal, and you're effectively shitting in your own back yard. you'll need more giant debt turds trains the next time.

How many stations between Fresno and San Jose? Cause even at 100MPH you'll still have to stop at every station to take on passengers, that adds 15 or so minutes to the commute for every stop.

WTF?! You want people to commute 300 miles every single fucking day? OP, find a super train and throw yourself in front of it.

If beaner kids go to public schools, instead of teaching them to speak and write English as soon as possible, the commies want to put them in "bilingual" classes which have has been done and is proven to only create illiterates not only in English but whatever native language they speak.

In other words, the leftists want their pet beaners as stupid as possible and dependent on gibesmedat so they'll vote Democrat.

I got out of Commiefornia but I remember the bilingual ed bullshit and it was the beaners themselves that pushed to do away with it as their kids were too stupid to even work a taco truck after the public schools were done with them.

Prop 59 is just a statement propisition. It is basically like screaming very loud that you support something in front of the White House. All this does is tell people that voters support the idea of Citizens United being overturned, it does not actually overturn, merely show support.

Nobody cares what they "expect". Decent cars last for decades. Like mine.

Your talking points are old. America has fracking now. Oil is cheap. In the future when oil starts running out, electric cars will be cheap enough for the poor.

Good.

First you bash cars, now suburbia. Your arguments come straight out of the United Nations Agenda 21 propaganda manual. If you globalist scumbags had your way, Americans would be trapped in dense cities, run as police states. Soros would use super trains to ship millions of blacks and mexicans to any state he wants, during election day.

Isn't the californian high speed rail system being built and maintained by Feinstein's husband?

Why?

"expect" wasn't the best word for that user to use, "convince" would be better. people (especially in snowy areas cause road salt) will buy cars every few years, or else keep the same one and get jewed out on overpriced repairs (uhhhhh yeah maam this oil change is gonna set you back $900, it's very urgent)

i thought it was jerry brown's sister's company that is gonna get the contract, or something?

Personal use is exempt from taxation. Only commercially grown plants are to be taxed. I still don't like the restrictions for growing (you can't see it from public property, localities can ban, six plants maximum) and licensure schemes (costs a fortune and the tax revenue raised is allocated to worthless causes).
Do you mean specifically for this bill or just to meet existing garbage business regulations? Do you have a source? I'll change my vote to no if that's the case.

My grandfather told me that in 1940 in his hometown in socal, public transport was free and up to date. (((GM))), (((Firestone))) and some (((oil comany))) bought it and closed it down soon after, Then they started selling autos, tires, gasoline which forced everyone to buy those cars.
tl;dr i wonder who is behind your post?

Stop living in the past. This is what would happen to your grandfather today.

What about electric autos?

I know there are a lot of fat faggots who like to yo-ho-ho about how shitty California is, but let's be clear here - Except for people in some coastal states and a few Texans, you fly-over state faggots would mostly be on welfare anywhere else, okay? California has priced you the fuck out of the market for both income and brains, and half of the pelagic fat fucks who live between the Sierra Nevadas and the Appalachians are only stuck where they are because they never had the guts to pile into a car and roll to one or the other coast. You're a disgrace to the white race if your inferior fucking genes have had seven fucking generations to escape Oklahoma, but you're still living in a tornado-magnet shithole full of equally worthless Indians and niggers.

California has some shitty laws, and it's too damn bad that we're running basically a one-party Democrat dictatorship over here, but that didn't happen for no fucking reason. The California Republican Party is so low, so vile, and so cucked to within an inch of its life that Governor Moonbeam actually pulled our state out of the fiscal toilet by raising taxes and hate-fucking the spendthrift (((R's))) in the Assembly.

The downside of that shit is the SocJus university system and gun control. It fucking sucks, but what the fuck else are we supposed to do, vote for Sam Brownback or James Inhofe? Move out to incest country Kentucky or West Virginia and learn the banjo?

Seriously fuck off with your ignorant CA bashing. It doesn't even bother me in general, because I know there's a lot we could improve on, but what fucks my nerves is the ignorance of shitkickers who think they've got something up on us because they spent their whole lives getting hookworm in Mississippi.

Why would anybody want this? Its cheaper and faster to fly. Nobody is going to use this.

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To tax shekels.

Reminder that Hitler was very fond of nature and rural living.
rural living such as "fly over states" Are the best places to go as long as you don't run into nogs.

The personal use growing space is taxed, not the plants themselves. Taxing the plants would be impossible to enforce since there's no reason for someone to give it to a licensed distributor.

I should have specified, sorry–the employment stuff will be with local municipalities. it 100% will be implemented in the bay area (already is for med dispensaries in oakland), LA, and most of Humboldt+Mendocino counties. the politicians at the conferences are shilling hard for it for the past two years at least. I've been wondering how it financially benefits them, still have no idea.

I won't argue with Hitler. I just don't like the arrogant presumption that Arkansas has something California doesn't, or that we're a bunch of losers when the state is actually a really good place to live.

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A few tidbits of information:
✠ Northerners are more inbred than Southerners
✠ Californians are disgusting race mixing degenerates who can't get enough "diversity"
✠ California is POZ central
✠ California is the passenger seat of Jewish power (MSM, Plebbit, Jewgle, Microshaft) next to Jew York City
✠ Kill yourself.
Everything that is wrong in this country comes out of California. It's like the song Hotel California, you should never be allowed to leave and spread your poz anywhere else. Anyone who has lived there for a long period of time has become irredeemably tainted by bad ideas and thoroughly Jewish influences - this has occurred to the degree that they're not even aware of it, just like a child living with uncle Chaim might not even realize that a dick being slipped into his baby asshole is in any way irregular. The bar for leaving California at this point should be so high that it should border on candidacy for a lobotomy.

You're already showing the Jewish Northerner attitude calling whites inbred. Like I said, you don't even know how poz'd you are, might as well be an honorary heeb.

As a American I would like less people moving out of California. As a Californian I would like more people moving out of California.

EVERYTHING

So, I take it you didn't read prop 54. Yes, it sounds good. But did you know it repeals part of the law that doesn't allow political ads to use any Assembly footage? I won't spoon feed you. You are being tricked. All of the props are tricks.

Why? California isn't a white place ya, dummy.

I didn't see anything about taxes for personal grow operations. I'm sure it's different for people who sell it and require licensing.

Yes, generalize and make blanket statements, faggot. Jewish influences are magic, like they're a superior race or something, huh?

Pedo faggot. This is your issue, not mine. Get help by shooting yourself

Electric driverless cars are the future of American transportation, not (((public transportation))).

i'd rather die then let a jew track my every movement.

I have no idea why that would be a problem.

Is there some special aura around California that prevents locals from breaking the conditioning, or are you just a faggot that hears the bullshit the citycucks are pushing and generalizes support for them over the entire state?

Again, another example of the leftist poz culture of Sodomifornia infecting you. "Waaaah! Don't generalize me!" is the clarion call of a poz'd shitlib special snowflake. You're infected by kike "logic" and gommunism. Tie yourself to a boat anchor and wait for the ocean to pull you out to sea, you cut up dicksucker.

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This is how I know you're from California. You did it again just like your fagifornian counterpart. This is why you will never solve the nigger and beaner problem - because sodomifornians think everyone is unique and special and they're afraid of putting people in boxes or categorizing them where they rightly belong.

They've probably never left their cucked state so they don't understand that different regions manifest different behaviors. You're seeped in judaism and you don't even realize it, you LARP some subculture to show how special you are - you LARP NatSoc, for example, but then you'll talk about how you have a "based" nigger or taco friend, because underneath it all you're all about the equality; to rip that aspect of your personality out would leave you with almost nothing to say. Stay in your fucking rabbinical commune and keep sucking dicks.

You seem awfully butthurt about being wrong. There are plenty of distinct red areas in the state. Every one of them wants out. One almost seceded before WWII derailed the whole issue.

I'm happy to generalize when it's appropriate, like treating all citycucks like the scum they are. If we sent them back to LA and SF and nuked them into oblivion, the state might be worth living in. The nuclear fallout would make for better neighbors.

OP's dream is America's nightmare.

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No sympathy from me, you can live in any state in the country and you choose to live in the one state with high state income taxes funding poz to the highest degree possible, keeping GRIDS monkeys alive, providing sanctuary to illegals; you choose to live where your vote doesn't even matter. You can complain about cityfags all you want, but you have a choice not to fund it or fund it less, but you do it anyway.

The problem with public transport is it has to be fucking awesomely designed and in a largely homogenous city/country for it to be good otherwise it's shit.

Like the metro in Japan is crazy awesome but fuck using any form of public transport in Detroit.

Take your moralism, sit on it, and spin. I'm voting yes on 64.

A communist hellscape with a shiny technocratic facade? Paradise!

NOOOOOO GOY VOTE YES ON PROP 53 WE NEED MORE DIVERSITY

Nice dubs, now check this out…

Cigarette commercials were banned because of the propaganda effect they were having on our kids. This prop will allow MJ to have the same propaganda effect. But it's going to be even worse.

We have internet now. One good viral MJ commercial, and we get a new generation of hippy faggots.

Come on, at least attack the argument, not the user

ITT: RETARD CALIFAGS VOTE FOR THE VERY SAME MEASURES THAT BUILT THEIR ANTI-WHITE STATE.

TO CALIFAGS: FUCK OFF AND STAY THE FUCK IN CALI THE REST OF AMERICA IS FULL.

ALSO SAGED AND REPORTED THIS THREAD BECAUSE FUCK (((YOU GUYS)))

I dunno, I bought my car for $1500 6 years ago. I've had to replace some parts but it adds up to another 1,200 or so. Then tires and stuff too. But it's a ton better than taking the bus to my work that is a 50 minute drive. Bus would take twice the time if not more.

Although if you have a problem with private vehicle ownership know that you're going to win in the end. Driverless vehicles and vehicle sharing will be the end of private ownership soon. Also know that if you want to take away my right to a vehicle, I'll kill you one day if I get the chance

Ancap detected.
Is it too STATIST for you?

Fuck off, we're all too poor to move to out of commiefornia anyway.

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The difference is that here an America transit security is basically untouchable. Example: Johannes Mesherle.

Because fuck the farmers. They are the reason why California is 40% hispanic.

People do the same shit on the Shinkhansen and Acela.

the point wasn't about oil scarcity, it was propping up Israel and the House of Saud

To answer your question seriously: for urban routes freeways are already at max capacity and for intercity routes airports cannot expand the amount of gates they have. Airlines want to dump regional flights anyway because it frees up space for more profitable long-haul flights. Also trains have no TSA check in.

It's a worthless boondoggle

Wait for the deportations to commence and H-1B Pajeets to be sent home.
When mudshits start derailing trains, it will happen there too.

It honestly doesn't fucking matter. As long as Commiefornia is a bastion for beaners and leftists anything you do will be fucked by corruption and debt. There is no winning except to purge the state.

-t. commiefornian who is working on getting out and not being a transplant

Considering my folks are from Germany, Scotland, and Sweden, I'm one of the last remaining pure whites in CA, so I've got my rifle and ammo ready for the chimpout of the century.

fpbp

And you wonder why this state went to shit?

Godspeed, but always remember that you're tainted.

Too late, the anchor babies are here and they are going to stay. Did I say how much I hated the farmers? Point is that either we build a system to deal with it or they spill into other states faster.

No, it won't. For starters, Amtrak and private RRs would simply fence off all track and dump more into perimeter control, including separations of grade crossings (ie replacing a ground level crossing with an underpass). Secondly, even if that doesn't work all of America's railroads will pump more into armed private security. Ever notice BLM never shuts down Amtrak? Because the one time they did it the host railroad killed their Internet connection then broke kneecaps. This is also why Embarcadero West (pic related) is clear of homeless people while the rest of Oakland is not.

More importantly, security checkpoints at all stations would more or less make it very easy for Amtrak to adopt a metro-style paygate ticketing system rather than having unionized Conductors snip tickets. It would also mean every single station would have to be rebuilt. This isn't so much of a problem for dumpsters like Chico or Bakersfield, but it's a big problem for big stations like Diridon or the new Transbay Transit Center which would require a total redesign.

With the massive failure of California's high speed rail project, I'd say they're right on that point. The free market would have them beat by now, especially if those hyperloop designs come to fruition.

No point until we start physically removing commies and gimmecrats. Fighting against shitlib gun laws is an uphill battle.

we live in a world with 3d printed lowers and 80% kits also it's not an either/or you fucking dipshit it is fully possible to talk about multiple issues in depth during election year. This is a basic function of Democracy all white people should be capable of doing

This sums up the difference between neetsocs and the rest of us. It's as if you dullards haven't heard of the free market

California already spends $10 billion per year on a road system which nets the state a sum total of $0 (zero) dollars in profit. CAHSR is a bargain considering that it'll only cost about $1 billion per year to build but will also net at least 50% farebox recovery (based upon current Amtrak California services though, more likely it'll be able to break even like Amtrak's northeastern services do).

Bonds are just the government's way of getting money they couldn't get with taxes while knowing they will never have to worry about paying it back while they're in office.

Go fuck yourself OP. I'm going to vote in a way that cuts funding for absolutely every public service, project or program in this state. May it all go to shit.

It needs to be said, because some anons seem to have missed it. . . The second part of NatSoc doesn't stand for Bill Clinton's faggot cat. It stands for "Socialist," as in - build shit we can all use and hang the fucking "free market" when it gets in the way.

The purpose of money is to buy weapons. The purpose of weapons is to buy the future. Money is not an end unto itself, Rabbi.

NO, it repeals the requirement that that they speak English in class. Fuckers wrote it to trick voters.

It's as if wiki leaks never happened. When are you faggots going to realize that the gov is full of corrupt incompetent power hungry niggers. Why the fuck do you think we desperately need an outsider to be elected president?

Public transportation is shit in America because of shitskins ruining it for everyone. Ever travel by bus?

I noticed that. It's a sneaky thing they literally always do; word every proposition in such a way that you really have to be paying attention to know what the fuck is being proposed. I'll admit I had to look a few things up this year because I honestly didn't understand the issue and I'd never heard of the orgs endorsing or opposing them.

Fucking rats. Why not: "Do you want the little deminiggers who are swallowing your tax dollars to A) Be forced to learn English so they can translate when la Migra takes their parents away, or B) Sink lower into their nigger-clicky language and further degrade a once-proud land with their filth?"
0 Yes, deport the little faggots
0 No, kill them instead. . . it's cheaper

Won't be an issue after they're deported.

I'm happy I live in the suburban part of cali, I take the SunBus sometimes and it's honestly a smooth breeze. It would fucking SUCK to live in LA or some other shithole like that.

Now you can sit next to some smelly spic and pajeet just like on Bart but for longer trips.

Who needs that pesky road. Tax the shit out of it.

Public transportation is only good in homogeneous societies. We need more separation in the "melting pot" if we're ever going to survive.

You have no idea what you are talking about.
I've lived in four states in four different regions: Pacific Northwest, Midwest, East Coast, and SoCal, and visited many different states. I would pick SoCal over all of them. People here are very laid back and polite whereas in the PNW and especially New England they are cold, haughty and condescending. Midwest has nothing, people are fine but the states are pretty much empty with nothing to do. If it wasn't for the demographic issue SoCal would be the best place in the country.

Also if you live in California and have the option, vote for Darrell Issa. He was key in the fight against SOPA a few years ago (t. former /g/entooman) to keep internet freedom and he also supports Trump if local attack ads are to believed. He's one of the few good politicians imo.

Tell me more

Well in 2012 there was a bill called the Stop Online Piracy Act that would severely undermine freedom of the internet at the whim of media corporations that were upset at digital piracy. Issa was essentially the lone Republican voice speaking against the bill and lead the congressmen in opposition to it. At the time I was a liberal who was really into Linux, the EFF, and other technology based activism and I was pleasantly surprised that not all Republicans were corporate shills. Also I've been seeing attack ads from Doug Applegate saying he supports Trump.

I just read his jewpedia page and his voting record seems mixed however one thing that stood out is that his office was the target of a bombing plot by a group called the "Jewish Defense League" for him allegedly supporting Hezbollah. He supports peace in the ME and is against illegal immigration. He has supported government transparency initiatives as well. He's Lebanese but seems much better than his opponent.

Your state will be grotesque with recreational marijuana. Colorado is proof that it is instantly taken to excess and the culture that pops up around it is worse than drinking culture.

15 min PER stop?

What the hell, how slow are you Burgers. 2 minutes is more than enough.

Could you elaborate on this? What is going on in Colorado that is a result of marijuana legalization?

Not saying you're wrong; just curious.

Butthurt poor fag detected, autism bux suspected. Look trains work in Europe because the population is so dense, the don't make sense here economically because of how sparse we are. No amount of financial Jewing is going to change that. Even if rail got a lot cheaper it still pales in comparison to water for freight, which should be 90 percent of traffic as that is what rail is good at (heavy industrial shit).

Further, your communist bullshit is what shits up the road in the first place. Highways encounter problems whenever there is a lane merge, an exit, or a sharp turn. My local highway system is jewed up with needless lane merges, retarded banking turns, and a jewed up dual lane system that provides a separate road for hov driving and (((special people))), in addition to normal rich fags. It doesn't even pay for itself (the express system), and it cannot go but a few hours a night without massive slowdowns as a rule. Take the brakes off and we'd be fine and the public transport cucks could fuck off back to the trainyard. Also Hitler's most important big work was not rails, it's was the autobahn system you fuck tardy pinko.

Ever consider that people being so laid back is what allowed the demographic issue amongst other jewed up things to transpire in the first place?

That said i heard san Diego is heavenly.

The weed culture?

That's the kind of person that comes in when weed is legal. When weed is legal, every big city becomes like Seattle, a slowly decaying shithole of a city. Washington is swarming with hippies.You want a northwest front? Enjoy dealing with flannel wearing pot smoking genderqueer lumberqueens.

You'll also get a lot of people with legit problems that are temporarily solved via weed smoking, that's fine if they smoke. But you're going to find a lot of neo-hippies claiming to have shit like fibromyalgia or a rare form of lupus that they totally need weed man.

Blow your fucking brains out, you goddamn foreigner.

Die.

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Your shitty free market state will never have trains. Never.

Moved to Cali from a southern state and it has made me absolutely depressed. No one is sociable, it's hot and dry and no one goes outside except to shop. It's like living in a desert stripmall where all of your neigbors are spics and atomized whites.

I really can't stand the spics. They always have a glazed over look in their eyes and you can tell there isnt much going on in their heads. They all speak spanish and don't even pretend to like whites. I thought i could tolerate them more than blacks but I can't. They're like a swarm of insects. Blacks are garbage but at least they have emotion and will talk to you, even if it's to threaten you. Spics are just fucking alien.

I cant stand it here, what laws can I even vote for to stop the invasion even just a little?

These feels. As a native californian, they never go away. After decades of intensified multiculturalism in this state people distrust each other. You go out to shop, then return home and hang out with your family and diminishing group of friends. There is nothing going on in public. Do not stare at the homeless. Try to block out the masses of brown people. And yes, the alien nature of the spic. It is hard to convey in words why they disturb me more than niggers. I think it is because niggers are so far from white people they are not uncanny, they are a distinct. But spics are weird mongrels, some even look psuedo white but they lack the "spark" of the white aryan soul.

idk man it never gets better here, it breaks you mentally after awhile which is why so many seek the warm fuzziness of extreme leftism or turn to far right idealogies like I have to radically hate anyone and anything not white

That's usually not what it looks like though yet

THIS

christ fuck this barren alien hellhole

fucking rude smelly uncanny valley beaners
absolute bottom-of-the-barrel garbage women
obnoxious azn bros
sackless eunuch cuck white males
all of the grossest hippies

Californians need to be gassed

You asshats realize hispanics will be the first to start knocking heads of blacks and jews if there is a race war right?

Wishful thinking. Even if what you say is true, once those heads are knocked, then Euros are next on their list.

It doesn't even matter if they can pick our strawberries or harm our enemies, because those are things we should be doing ourselves. Lazy, greediness and apathy have given them means to slip in. One day they will surpass our numbers. We need to look past today if we want to survive as a people.

Youre either a jew yourself or a stormfag, there isnt much of a difference with thinking like that.

There is a reason why people in the southwest who are redpilled call the spics roaches.

You're just a retarded traitor

It's something I never thought I'd understand. Blacks are trash but they are bombastic, and have emotions. They're dumb enough to get a few cheap laughs at. They aren't intelligent whatsoever but it at least seems like they feel strongly about things. Mexicans are so shifty. Always speaking in Spanish, letting their literal snot-nosed kids run around and destroy things while they do nothing. At least a nigress will beat her children in public if they misbehave, but not the broodsows.

I saw a mexican child go into a brand new restaurant, run around flailing, and try to pull apart a line divider with his bare hands using all of his strength, all with a thousand yard stare and no awareness for anyone else around him. I couldn't even tell where the mother was because all of the hispanic women were also staring off into space or speaking gibberish to one another.

With encounters with blacks you can complain to your white friends, make fun of their animal behavior, and have some interesting stories about the shit you see them do in public. I have 0 stories about "crazy" shit mexicans do. They just take up space and breed you out of existence. It just causes depression, and there's no levity about their ant-like behavior to laugh with your friends about.

I lived in a place that was pretty bi-racially white and black. Now I live in a place where it's all hispanic and seeing another white face is like finding gold. I'd rather deal with the nigs in the south as long as I know there's people out there like me around me.

I don't care. They only hate blacks because they want to do the same thing to them as they are doing to whites, breeding them out of their communities. I've never felt more estranged anywhere else but in SoCal.

Get the fuck off of Holla Forums and go back to whatever shithole you crawled out of.

I'll vote to fund it. It's a mismanaged, stupid waste of cash but better spent than other things. what's our money go to usually? raising other people's kids, and shitty highways.

hispanics disproportionately target whites in violent crime, even beyond how blacks target whites
You're either a spic, Texan, or naive

I'd be a lot more okay with their bullshit if they learned their lesson or stayed in their shithole but they always end up moving to another state and ruining it in the exact same way.

Public transport just isn't very good in america. We have too much land, too many cities that sprawled out too much, too many places to go. No rail network will be able to connect america by rail the way europe is because america is too spread out. The whole center of the country is mostly corn, meaning any trains will have to spend a whole day seeing nothing but scenic corn fields.

I literally can't imagine life without freedom of mobility. Making cars unnaffordable to the average european is, i think, more unethical than most other things jews do on a regular basis.

BTW: Hitler built the Autobahn and Volkswagen to give his people cars, he wanted them to be free to go where they want, when they want within germany.

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