BREAKING: Military coup in Turkey

The military.

It's Cenk from TYT

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Turkey#Military_involvement_in_politics

This happens a lot in Turkey.

there is more than likely several political stances within the military, coups are never unanimous decisions among officers. I really hope is a leftist and not a worse reactionary.

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Forget it, it's just Turkish military upholding their proud traditions of buttfucking the fundies

Probably to be replaced by more Turkish reactionaries, tbh. unless you have more info

What a wonderful world we live in.

Is this pro or anti Erdogan?

Would be anti-erdogan, the army has always been pro-secularism because "muh Atatürk"

So what will this lead to?

I think its too early to tell, either more of the same, or at the very least more dead porkies.

coup will be stopped and turkey will become even more tyrannical

Islamig gommunism

kurd genocide

oh my god I've been waiting for this for so long

They said those times were over, that the state had gotten control of the military. Guess who was wrong? Guess whose getting 10 inches of secularism up their redneck fundie ass?

If Erdogan gets executed I can die happy. Probably wishful thinking on my part on how much this will change the status quo in Turkey, but a man can dream.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Military_coups_in_Turkey

Why are you guys hyping this so much. This isn't some glorious revolution, just gonna install some other fag in power. Pure power struggle, nothing else.

neat. Take that king roach. He may well get his wish of 'president for life'

I don't think a coup will make things better but it's a major world event and could lead to some very worrisome things (i.e. invasion of Rojava). Then again Erdogan is all but a dictator himself.

Because Erdogan is a shit who accommodates islamists to achieve his own personal goals. Without this total cunt in charge ISIS days are numbered.

Europeans can only go up.

youtube.com/watch?v=-mhVcpvElQI

And that's gonna suddenly dissapear with this other dude?

But everyone in IRC and shit treating like this is some amazing thing.

ISIS might get fugged now
Rojava too

We hate Erdogan

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d'état_attempt

how about you go back there and stop posting on Holla Forums

Well I'm not in IRC, no idea what they're thinking.

Erdogan is a chauvenist unlike any other Turkey has seen.
Whoever they replace him with would likely be a lot better, at least in terms of lashing out against other nations.

not funny 173.53.89.228

yes. The army will secure the border starving ISIS of their supplies, most of which move freely through Turkey.

I'm new to all this. Can somebody give me the abridged version?

BUNKERCHAN STREAM ON IT!
youtube.com/watch?v=-mhVcpvElQI

Hostages taken and curfew in effect.

Sources :

BBC | bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-36811357

Removing Erdogan won't end the conservatism and Turkish nationalism that got him in power, it will only grow if anything.

According to a Dutch journalist in Istanbul the military wants to "restore the laws and maintain international agreements" (loosely translated).

Go back there and stay there.

The military has claimed in a statement that it has taken over.[11][12] They stated that they had "done so to preserve democratic order, and that the rule of law must remain a priority".[13]

Found your problem.

I fucking knew it, Cenk and The Young Turks planned this all along! I knew him and his Turkish magic couldn't be trusted at all.

I feel sorry for Armenia, he may try to start another Armenian genocide since he hates Armenians so much and wants their clay.

Does anyone have that image of a PKK qt talking about ISIS?
It isn't on the booru.

Nah, probably just the same Deep State shit.

This one?

I TOLD YOU ERDOGAN

I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE BUNKERS

She's from the YPG, not the PKK.

I don't think the Kurds will be safe when le turkish magic man is in power.

Thanks.

As someone who knows someone who fought both with the HPG and the YPG, the notion that the PYD and the PKK are supposed to be different organizations is a joke to most people involved. There's a huge overlap.

I've been hearing Gulen movement.

What are your thoughts on this situation?

threadly reminder that according to wikileaks the U.S. actually loves the Gulen movement because they're more pro free market.

About time someone put that fuck on the firing line.

Might be a good think.
A state thrown into disarray is exactly what allowed the Peshmerga to establish an autonomous zone in Iraq and allowed the PYD to establish Rojava.
With a little luck, Eastern Turkey might have the oppotunity to do that, and then Rojava would truly have the industrial backing it needs to independently compete with Syria and ISIS.

So it's an oppotunity.

The die is cast.

I don't follow

Sort of a "Not Catalonia, but it's not Erdogan. So it's better than nothing." attitude. I come from a family of mostly secularists who fucking HATE Erdogan. I'm mostly just happy to see him gone.

Ancom celebrates Erdogan getting his teeth kicked in.

I imagine that is the attitude of post people here.

This.

supermega fucking cringe

Holla Forums truly is filled with shuddersome shutin permavirgins

Also, fucking kill yourself, space_, you fecking scum of the earth. You sound like Dara Ó Briain, too.

Ah, I see.

Turkish military declares martial law

Source:

BBC | bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-36811357

#Erdogone

Calm you tittys ComradeVAC :^)

>>>/irc/

I only watch Xexizy to have masturbation material, honestly.

the latest info wants erdogan on his way to istanbul from bodrum
turkey's chief of staff is been held hostage on his hq

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Food for thought:

Al Jazeera — Timeline: A history of Turkish coups | aljazeera.com/news/europe/2012/04/20124472814687973.html

Balkananalysis — The Role of the Military in Turkish Politics and European Union Membership Negotiations | balkanalysis.com/turkey/2010/12/02/the-role-of-the-military-in-turkish-politics-and-european-union-membership-negotiations/

Al-Monitor — Is Turkey's military returning to politics? | al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/10/turkey-military-is-not-willing-to-intervene-politics-for-now.html

Fuck you and all you fucking authoritarian coward. Get shot.

I want IRC avatarfag cancer off this board, too. I was kicked from bunkerchan for standing up to those cowards, so I'm not with them.

I'm fine with autism, just not cringey as fuck autism, especially when the autists are obnoxious power-tripping cowards like space_.

I'd be kinda sorta OK with that. An autonomous and semi-independent but still united with the rest of turkey Kurdistan would be cool by me. Only reasons I'm against secession is cause A: am Kebab and (incoming spooks) I'd like to see the country unified. and B: My family lives in Turkey and I don't want anything bad to happen to them. (So many spooks in this post I know)

Stop derailing the thread.

Turkey sounds horrifying

Lol what

:^)

It's not that big of a deal. Same deal with Thailand.

This will guarantee that Turkey doesn't get in the EU any time soon though.

Apparently the Middle East is only capable of either military rule or theocracy. I guess, as an outsider, I'd rather have the former, since it's less of a threat to me.
The military is talking about secularism, the rule of law, and a new constitution. If they succeed, maybe this will be a good thing. If Erdogan defeats it, Turkey will become a hellhole. His office has said that he's "on vacation outside the country," which I take to mean that he's fled Turkey, so maybe he's already been effectively beaten.

I'm not. I don't want to talk about this.

Why do you fly the anarchist banner if you're against desolving nation-states?

wew lad

Power-tripping is a sign of latent authoritarianism and it's a form of cowardice manifest through oppression.

They also demonstrated their speciesist authoritarianism in bunkerchan when I was there.

The West destabilized the entire region to lead to this. It isn't some genetic determinism thing fuckwit. The Shah was put in place of a democratically elected leader who wanted to nationalize the oil industry.

Then stop posting.

Or only post if it has to do with the coup and Turkey.

take a drink.

>>>Holla Forums

I never said I was against desolving nation states I just know we're not there yet. Doesn't mean I can't combat the power of the state whenever it attempts to seize more power. Also because there isn't really a libsoc banner that I could find and this was as close as I could get.

I'm not very good at this. I know. I haven't had the opportunity to read up on much literature. I know I've got Kapital on this PC somewhere, just never got the time.

Turkish military are just a bunch of haters. They can't handle Erdogan's Enver Pasha swag.

Singer get out

Is it true the coup is by Kemalists?

I'm not interested in the self-flagellation of Westerners and their guilt complex. If a tree falls on a mouse in a forest, you fucks blame the West. I'm done caring what people like you think about international events, because you only ever have that one response.

I don't know what you're talking about. Nothing I said had anything to do with genes.

We're not talking about Iran.

how did they do that, exactly?

archive.is/773xk
twitter.com/lammert/status/754067034925854721

The Turkish Military has always, at least since I've been alive, been a secularist faction and calls itself kemalist. As to how true that is, well……. I hope so. Cause all the commie parties in Turkey are Leninists at least the ones I could find, and tiny as fuck, especially after the split.

Regarding Divine Violence:

One should repeat this, mutatis mutandis, apropos divine violence: "Well and good, gentlemen critical theorists, do you want to know what this divine violence looks like? Look at the revolutionary Terror of 1992-1994. That was the Divine Violence." (And the series goes on: the Red Terror of 1919…) That is to say, one should fearlessly identify divine violence with positively existing historical phenomena, thus avoiding all obscurantist mystification. When those outside the structured social field strike "blindly," demanding AND enacting immediate justice/vengeance, this is "divine violence" - recall, a decade or so ago, the panic in Rio de Janeiro when crowds descended from favelas into the rich part of the city and started looting and burning supermarkets - THIS was "divine violence"… Like the biblical locusts, the divine punishment for men's sinful ways, it strikes out of nowhere, a means without end - or, as Robespierre put it in his speech in which he demanded the execution of Louis XVI: "Peoples do not judge in the same way as courts of law; they do not hand down sentences, they throw thunderbolts; they do not condemn kings, they drop them back into the void; and this justice is worth just as much as that of the courts."

The Benjaminian "divine violence" should be thus conceived as divine in the precise sense of the old Latin motto vox populi, vox dei: NOT in the perverse sense of "we are doing it as mere instruments of the People's Will," but as the heroic assumption of the solitude of sovereign decision. It is a decision (to kill, to risk or lose one's own life) made in the absolute solitude, with no cover in the big Other. If it is extra-moral, it is not "immoral," it does not give the agent the license to just kill with some kind of angelic innocence. The motto of divine violence is fiat iustitia, pereat mundus: it is JUSTICE, the point of non-distinction between justice and vengeance, in which "people" (the anonymous part of no-part) imposes its terror and makes other parts pay the price - the Judgment Day for the long history of oppression, exploitation, suffering - or, as Robespierre himself put it in a poignant way:

"What do you want, you who would like truth to be powerless on the lips of representatives of the French people? Truth undoubtedly has its power, it has its anger, its own despotism; it has touching accents and terrible ones, that resound with force in pure hearts as in guilty consciences, and that untruth can no more imitate than Salome can imitate the thunderbolts of heaven; but accuse nature of it, accuse the people, which wants it and loves it."

Isn't kemelism just subtle fascism?

I don't see why this guy is getting a hard time. It is called pragmatism. The world, Turkey more than some, is not anywhere near ready for anarchy or any non-authoritarian communism. Erdogan has pandered to islamists and set about dismantling Turkish democracy. He was regressive and reactionary through and through and is better off deposed.

Oh fuck off. When you say something as retarded as "the people in this region are only possible of X or Y" without considering why the region is the way it is, you come off as an imbecile. I think you're on the wrong board buddy. You don't have to defend Islam to realize that it wouldn't be nearly as dominant in the states of the ME and NA if the west hadn't interfered in the first place.

Alright, I will. Last post. I hate talking about this topic, anyway, but I have zero respect for those IRCowards.

And no, I'm not derailing the thread, space_. Threads can contain multiple conversations about related topics. If I wanted to derail, I wouldn't be dropping the subject and saging when I make posts that aren't related to the main topic.

Refer to quoted post above. I'm apparently "derailing" this thread, so I'm dropping it. It's not relevant anyway. Maybe another time.

I wonder what nationality could be behind this post

Kemalism is supposed to be one of those "third way" ideologies that balances capitalism and socialism.
so yeah, subtle fascism.

Also, I'm not partaking in self deprecation just because I acknowledge that colonialism and regime shifts are bad. I don't hold the proles guilty I'm not an SJW. My point about the west is that the elites need to be lined up against a wall and shot.

Military patrol on Taksim square

….eh, in the same sense that any statist philosophy could be seen as subtle fascism. And considering what it was a response to, it doesn't surprise me that Kemalism is what it is. Still a better alternative than Islamism.

Statism or anarchism is not relevant here. If they're corporatists is subtle fascism.

I wasn't aware that I needed your permission to generalize.

There's a lot more to it than, "The big bad West made a booboo on all the poor, defenseless Turks. :("

I've been here for a long time, pal.

–The Foreign Relations Prayer of the Liberal, to be repeated whenever violence between non-Westerners occurs.

You're right, that's certainly not what you're doing.

I didn't know that Greek Ionia was still such a historically relevant force.

I'll take your word for it.

I agree. But that has fuck-all to do with this coup.

You're just a typical, historically illiterate liberal. I've known dozens of people like you. Nothing you have to say is worth listening to, or even saying in the first place.

either way this plays out, the result is going to be intensely fucking reactionary. if military takeover, then possibly martial law, maybe declare the AKP illegal in the same way that el-Sisi did in Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood. vague promises of a "democratic" election to be held sometime down the road

if Erdogan survives it, he's going to really crack the whip. heads will roll. purging the officer corps of anyone not 100% loyal to him

European Union membership is probably out of the question for the foreseeable future. really worried what this might mean for the refugees that have been funneled from Europe back into Turkey. who knows what the fuck might become of them now

This statement by the military was just read out on Turkish TV: "To again obtain constitutional democratic human rights we are officially managing the country."

Things looked a little dicey after the last round of elections, when pro-Kurdish parties did exceptionally well. But that seemed to have passed, and outside of the repeated terrorist attacks there seemed to be no real political opposition to Erdogan.

For a while I suspected back when the AKP was first swept into office that the military might step in and take things in hand, since they despise anything that even remotely smacks of right-wing soft Islamism. Still, Erdogan seemed to hold things down long enough that I would've thought he'd stack the military with enough of his own men.

With the military coup in Egypt that toppled Morsi, there was an official ultimatum given three days in advance. This happened out of fucking nowhere.

You said Middle East, not Turkey. If you had said Turkey and not the entire ME then your straw man you've erected about me referring to to Turks and not the entire region( why I talked about the Shaw) would actually have some merit :).

I was talking about Turkey in the wider context of trends within Middle Eastern regimes. I thought that was blindingly obvious.

OK, so you're not talking about Turkey. Got it. This thread is about Turkey, though, so you should probably stay on topic.

You've already used one word you didn't understand, don't use another.

Both historically and literally heh illiterate.

How's the weather over in Reddit?

You haven't refuted anything. All you've done is call me a liberal because I don't conform to the "da west ebin meme nuffin:("

Sure. That works. Ataturk did look to Western Capitalism as the basis for much of his ideology, so it makes sense. And considering the theocratic nutcase that came before, it doesn't surprise me that's the route they took.

I'm sorry I'm not on my phone and I can't proof read my post 4 u :(. When I said "self deprecating" that refers to me belittling myself, which I was not doing. The straw man was there. As you talked about the entire middle east and then when I pointed out how that disregards the history you're so literate about you switched to just talking about Turkey.

Apparently the Turkish military wants a withdrawal from Iraq.
archive.is/L8RTt
twitter.com/lammert/status/754071261828046848

This is very disturbing.

Erdogan was an Islamist asshole, but the military is not excactly the "good guys". In fact, I fear that the Kurds and Syria will be in extremly big trouble in the following days (as if their situation wasn't bad enough).

I have a small conspiracy theory that the Russians are behind this.

I hope Anzujaamu is safe and sound.

Oh shut the fuck up.

That's OK, as long as you're a big guy.

You've stated your retarded opinion, I've stated mine. If you're not a liberal, you sure sound like one. "The West is at fault for everything ever," is their usual panacea for any news of violence abroad. If you don't think that the West is responsible for this coup, I welcome you to say so.

What was it?

Me: "The houses in this neighborhood all look like either barracks or minarets, and it looks like this particular house is set to become one or the other."
You: "Not all the houses do, only 90% of them."
Me: "OK, but I'm mainly concerned with this one house."

just fuck my shit up fam

Any factionalism will destabilize the government in the short term, which is good for the Kurds. As for the long term, if the ones doing the coup want to pull out of Iraq, then they might not have a taste for foreign intervention in Rojava. That's my hope anyway.

kek, TYT is silent on this

They'll probably just say "oh it's just a small section of the army, move along, let's talk about Trump"

Like I said. "Not Catalonia, but not Erdogan either." At this point the fucking KLINGONS could take over and I'd still find that preferable to more of Erdogan's bullshit.

I hope that's the case as well. And to my understanding, Kemalism is not really into the whole foreign invasions thing. I could be wrong though.

Thanks for posting, comrade.

Watching this on TV at work is super entertaining tbh,really #woke liberals squirming and trying to decide whether their chosen take is "sanctity of parliamentary democracy" or "Erdogan bad ISIS boy who brought this on himself"

they had some Turkish-background (assuming from the name) professor through phone commenting on pretty vanilla mainstream media accepted stuff like Erdogan intentionally antagonizing Kurds + urban ppl because of his even larger support, newscaster had to stop him talking and had a look on his face as if the commentator had just suggested genociding the conservative countrysidefolk or something

Maybe since Cenk thinks the Kurds are terrorist scum, but we'll have to wait and see how our Young Turk overlord handles the heathens once his Shamanistic Tengrism pagan government fully takes of hold Turkey and begins his regiment of converting its citizens to Tengrist shamanistic turkish magic religion and Neo-Young Turk nationalistic ideology.

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Reminder that Cenk denies the Armenian genocide.

People are heading to Istanbul to show their support for Erdogan. Wonder if opposition civilians will show up as well.

The West is not responsible and Islam is toxic. The Wes is "responsible" for a lot elsewhere but I mean that to say the elites of the west. Ergodan was a theocrat and a completely antithetical to any leftist beliefs I hold. I was hoping that one of the ML groups would lead the coup, but it appears not. I do maintain that there are key countries in the Middle East that would still have secular states if Western intervention hadn't taken place.

French ambassady was closed yesterday, so was the consulat. Dunno about Russia, but westerners definitely knew something was up.

Reminder that Cenk only regret is that now he lives in America he will never be able to finish the job ;_;

The military was pro peace talks

Fair enough, seems we're mostly agreed. Let's hold hands and start a cooperative.

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twitter.com/lammert/status/754073718691864577

What do you think to do about Islam in Europe?

Are these pro-Erdogan demonstrators, and if so, how spooked are they?

Yes. Fully.

Islam is a mistake anywhere. Religion is shit, and Islam is the smelliest turd of them all right now. That said, I think people should have freedom of thought, including the freedom to do retarded things like worship obviously false books and ideas.

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I'm not sure. Does anyone here speak Turkish? That could help.

I don't speak Turkish, but it sounds like they're chanting his name.

Considering the amounts of Aloha Snackbar being said, I'm pretty sure those are islamists.

reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq

to his credit, Cenk has no problem attacking Erdogan in the past. Like when he criticized Turkey for bombing the kurds instead of ISIS.

considering Erdogone asked (begged) his supporters to gather in the streets, Im guessing its pro-islamicfascism.

Rolled 4, 4 = 8 (2d12)even and it will be like the Chávez coup

That too.

holy shit

Shots heard all around.
Panic.
archive.is/V2YI8
twitter.com/lammert/status/754077706770321413

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No problem, user.

And stop worshipping Yui.

Thanks

Weren't they trying to seize tanks or some shit? I'm confused. I dunno which happened first.

So you don't support open antagonization to the Islamist?

POST YFW ALLENDE IS AVENGED

Also apparently both the liberal and nationalist (Turkish, not Kurdish) opposition have at least some statements in favour of the government, so I guess pure military dictatorship with technocrats inbound if this somehow succeeds

I don't have a Zizek nor Stirner big enough.

twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/754077362430570499?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Well fuck.

What does this have to do with the Chilean coup?

those morons snackbar at everything. If Turkish mil enforces mandate from Ataturk against religious tyranny, they'll go full Egypt on them.

Islamism is theocracy. It should be opposed wherever it rears its ugly head, with violence when necessary.

This coup had better not fucking fail, Erdogan needs to be rid of and Islamists need to be put in check.

But you wouldn't support like mass deportation of muslims would you?

nothing.

Just funposting about the military shooting Erdogan's parliament

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The coup is failing, the people don't support it, it isn't even a larger part of the army, they're getting pushed out of Istanbul and they were facing a shuffle out of power in a couple of weeks and YOLO'd it.

If they're illegal immigrants, I'd support it. If they're citizens, then no.

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For the love of all that is spooky, this. I sincerely hope the Turkish military doesn't blue ball us on this.

If that's true, Turkey is in for a bad time. Erdogan will purge the fuck out of the government and military if he manages to come back from this.

People is ignorant.
That's why democracy never works.
Most people don't have the desire to gain the necessary knowledge to have valid opinions on political matters.

Does Refugees count as illegal?

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All you need for a democracy to work well is an educated populace and a ban on religious government.

Just find Erdogan and kill him. Shoot him in the fucking head. No trial, no waiting a million years in a cave, just find the boat, and blow it up.

If they entered the country without the permission or knowledge of the government, then yes.

Tanks driving over cars in Istanbul.

Fixed

So basically an utopian, impossible scenario.
Anything else you would want to ask for in order to make it work? An average IQ of 115 maybe?

Fucking moron

twitter.com/yavuzselimgunes/status/754078342815608832/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Enemy down, one less akp supporter to worry about

It sounds like when faced with Erdogan and a shit democracy or a military coup which you can't keep in check they're going for Erdogan. None of the rival parties want the military to succeed, but they wouldn't would they.

You say it like you can pick that up on the next weekly shop.

Then you have every faction fighting for control, which would be much worse. They need Erdogan alive because nobody else will dissent while he is still there, so if they can get to him then they have control.

The vast majority of the West is well-educated and has secular constitutions. So no. You're retarded. We have functioning democracies all over the place.
The problem is that they're currently shackled to capitalism.

Is this the first military coup in the age of digital media? I'm losing my shit with some of the footage

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It's pure shitting madness

This is literally a GOOD THING for EVERYONE, god damn, the media is trying to rip this coup to pieces before it even ends. Erdogan is not a good leader, Islamism is a threat to everything Turkey was founded upon, there are bombings and attacks nigh daily and some fucking control needs to be established to stop this spiral into the abyss. What madman actually supports Erdogan and his policy of destroying Turkey from the ground up? Where do these people come from? I just don't understand, if "Turkish democracy" gives you a shitter like Erdogan then Turkish democracy should be destroyed.

REMOVE FUCKING KEBAB ROACHES

I swear to god nuke these disgusting fucking COCKROACHES fucking unironically supporting this goddamn fascist pigfucker and willing to die for him when he literally uses them as shields, jesus christ. Just go full Sam Harris on these subhumans.

twitter.com/yunuspaksoy/status/754078897189298176

Civilians stopping a tank, pretty based tbh

the people are using cars and a bus in order to break the military blockade in the bosporos bridges

See
They're still fucking idiots.

kek

Look at these fucking retards attacking a tank with literal sticks

Stupid fucking fundieroaches

It's not like people don't have good reasons to be skeptical of military autocracies

Nah, I remember a tiny one like half a decade ago where the people took over an armoury and pushed the government out. Didn't get much publicity anywhere though.

Fucking hell, this went from zero to eleven in no time at all

A reminder that with facebook.com/livemap/ you can see livestreams from people across all of Turkey. Lots of chanting and waving of red flags. Shame the flags have a moon and star on them.

It's not easy to go from being a backwards shithole to an educated, secular place in a short period. But it does happen, given enough time, prosperity, and stability.

No. You sound like every mainstream journalist who creams themselves when someone says the word "Twitter."

Thailand has a coup every few years.

Honduras a year ago, Thailand two years ago. Egypt like 5 times. It happens pretty frequently.

All the madmen who voted for him

Why the fuck do they support him? Do they support ISIS too?

Islam needs to be fucking eradicated.

This is p cool

Attack choppers laying down fire while kid's chilling on a swing, must be pretty sweet to watch the world burn and not have a fuck to give.

so the US has decided to do a "Turkey with a human face thing" and replace Erdogan with a more stable puppet or?…

I've always dreamt of sitting in a deck chair atop a hill sipping a tumbler of scotch whilst the world burns around me

With benefits, at least?

is yui a cuteboy?

Most Sunnis tacitly support ISIS.

Seeing the street footage really gives you an idea of why the people need guns. There's an immense sense of powerlessness you feel when you see a small group of people in military uniforms and you know you have nothing to fall back on.

I keep imagining what I'd do

Come on it even took Stalin decades and everyone in Russia knew someone who had their death warrant personally signed by him. The scenario you're describing is full of 'everything goes to plan every step of the way and the world is accommodating and friendly'

I can hear Putin's laughter from my fucking house

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What's he got to do with this?

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I mistyped. What I mean is that it doesn't really happen over short periods. It does happen over long periods, if you already have other conditions in place.
Anyway, the guy posting with a porky flag and arguing against democracy is fucking precious–anyone who opposes democracy doesn't understand the point of socialism.

Amazing how far we've come with technology, it's pretty mind blowing you can just connect to a livestream of any street in the middle of a coup and see what it's like.

facebook.com/kingbeyazpolarr/videos/1071497316269033/

I'm watching this one

Disappointed honestly, at least killing Erdogan would accomplish something even if the coup failed, they should have seized him after he landed then started the coup.

Had they taken a video of his execution I'd have fappedmto it every day for a month

Jesus that's a lot of gunfire

You guy are not even pretending to be neutral, you should go to 7pol/ if you want to clap at shit like this.

With Erdogan, we know there's going to be more authoritarianism and theocracy.
With a military coup, which is practically routine for Turkey, there's a large chance for a better outcome.

I'm not supporting it. I'm completely indifferent because, being honest, I know fuck all about Turkey.

damnnn youuuu cenkkkk

Well Erdogan is a piece of shit.

The US has a VERY important military base in the country.

Did the US government see this coming? Yes

Do they want it? I don't think so.

They're secularists and probablyrics willing to end the war against the pkk and stop supporting isis

When the coup fails turky will become another Islamic shithole.
Whoever planned this coup are fucking idiots because they didnt do it right.

cenks thirst for the blood of armenian babies is legendary, i fear for them

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You'd have to be stupid not to see a secular coup against an Islamist nigh authoritarian government as a bad thing. Erdogan has been pushing for greater and greater government control over things like the media, he is actively turning the country into a fascist state, if the military can throw a wrench in his plans then this is good.

what a shitty coup

Holy FUCK check out this helicopter firing at a ground target right now

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754087041403682816

Mosques are now calling prayers, in the middle of the night.
twitter.com/is_fink/status/754082877168504832
That can't be a good sign.

So you'd prefer Islamists that support ISIS? Ant action that weakens the Turkish state is a good thing.

Shrike?…Is that you?

Jesus Fucking Christ they weren't firing on the protestors were they?!

So what do we think is gonna happen now? Now that the country is terrifyingly close to a civil war, if it's not there already.

Looks like the coup is failing, fugg.

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On TV, I heard that a helicopter was firing on the capitol, so I don't think so? I'm assuming this is the same helicopter. However, Erdogan urged his supporters to come out and be a human shield for him so that's fucked up, but they did it.

Bourgeois state out, bourgeois state in.

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RT live stream

youtube.com/watch?v=mxcfhDnD1Q0

HDP: "We are against any sort of coup as a matter of principle. There is no way but democracy."

Meant "calling to prayers," as in telling people to come to the mosques right the hell now.

I'm right there with ya brah. Half my family lives in Istanbul.

LOL WUT???

Am not sayinf Erdogan is good… But not "The army is good!"

Also, never forgeti, that this all happens right after he tried to make up things with Russia and US doesn't like him as much anymore..

You should call him, if you can.

Try to contact him. Good luck, comrade.

Priorities.Don't be such an ideologue.

That doesn't make it less important.

Turkish f-16 shoots down helicopter of coup faction

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754089104455897088

1 retweet 6 likes

people are so fucking stupid

Huh. I didn't even know fighters could do that. Helicopters usually beat fighters in combat, for some reason. Was this an attack helicopter or a transport helicopter?

I'm having a really surreal moment. Watching all these clips, all these livestreams, listening to some music. It's like I'm some sort of omnipotent creature staring into the lives of mortals, whilst in the comfort of my own dimension.

Tomorrow I'll wake up and continue a life devoid of anything, as if nothing happened.

Hard to describe, but it's a very very surreal feeling.

i can`t contact him he just doesen`t respond tryt everything

hopefully your family is well comerade

Why didn't Ukraine have good footage like this?

My friends GF is near Ankara

Fug, c'mon coup faction! I hear most of the coup forces are Airforce and Navy, hopefully they'll have plenty of airpower.

please excuse my spelling

what a time to be alive.

Helicopters are slow compared to most other areal vehicles. If they are surprised they will go down with all their superior firepower.

They didnt attack kiev, but rural shit

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754089984550895617

BREAKING: State-run AA reports 17 policemen killed in attack on #Gölbaşı Special Ops HQ - @CNNTURK_ENG

reuters.com/article/us-turkey-security-eu-idUSKCN0ZV2NE

If you consider pterodactyls in sweaters a "benefit."

But yes, he is very cute.

The "west" does not mean Britain and the Soviet Union.

while posting on leftypol is great, keep a journal comrade something the future generations can look back on when they find it.

You have to define "working" tho.

People are too poor to afford such luxuries to record stuff over in Ukraine.

So let me get this straight.

Basically, the people now saying that this Coup is good for Turkey are the same morons who were talking about how ousting Assad or Gaddafi was good because they were "islamo-Fascists"?

Porkies and pettybourg hangarounds who are at least somewhat religious, or simply just don't mind the state enforcement of Islamic values, support him at least (which I guess helps with the political coverage that ridiculously skewed for his favour).

I mean, they and Erdogan are (assuming this fails) living the conservative dream where the support of the lower classes so strongly secured through religion, so that economically they only need to throw 'em some poor scraps once in a while.

Well, they have cut off social media, so, I guess they've also cut off phones or something… :/

Make an IRC thread already, so all the offtopic bullshit is located in one place. Good fucking God.

I'm sorry, user. Hopefully he's staying indoors.

I know, but there have been studies and surprise trials that determined that attack helicopters are pretty good at taking down fighters. I assume it's just because most fighter pilots never expect to be attacked by a fucking helicopter because the idea is frankly ludicrous, but apparently it works.

I'm feeling, so intensely something I don't even know the name of it. It's like a mixture of rage, fear and sadness. This could very well turn into a civil war.

Ukraine isn't even that poor compared to Turkey.

Going to dump the interesting footage I have collected so far.

Forgot my flag.

i have been abel to contact other parts of my family but somehow i can`t get through too him

White house statement on the coup
whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/07/15/readout-presidents-call-secretary-john-kerry

What the hell is the answer then if not violence? Peaceful protest? Don't be such a fucking deluded idiot, the only language fascists understand is violence, if the army is the instrument by which justice can be done and fascists can be destroyed then we ought to see this coup as a positive thing.

I don't think so. Turkey had a functioning and competent government, unlike Libya and Syria.

Interesting

let`s just hope that that doesen`t happen

Oh fuck, just bouncing around the FB livemap I can hear it on a few across the country.

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lol, of course he's got Trump as his picture.
"Hey Ahmed, go fly the chopper, shoot at the capital, then we will shoot you down and put Erdogan in power for life"
"Sounds fair!"

Ha, felt I had to point it out before I saw you did too.

They are. There are helicopters build specifically to counter jets.
The thing is: it's late, jets are fast, the helicopter might have fired and the crew was preparing for another run. They got unlucky, or maybe the crew was just incompetent.

Thank you!

We tried the peaceful protest shit in 2013 in Taksim. Look what happened. It got us fucking nowhere.

What do you expect them to report on? That Cenk is directing his Tengri Young Turk nationalists army to remove Erdogen and the rest of his islamic infidels from government?

Cenk only kills Armenians because he must, for the blood of Armenian babies is what pleases tengri/ Angra Mainyu the most.

Are you an idiot, or something?

I wish I could physically be with you turkbro

Turks have resorted to Die-ins.

JUST

That's what I'm saying, Erdogan and his cronies need to be lined up and shot.

Hitler was fairly elected, that doesn't mean we ought to have tolerated him. When democracy fails and puts a tyrant in power you kill the tyrant, full stop, there is no ambiguity here.

Most of the fighting is rural, most people there couldn't afford cameras/phones let alone have internet. Not to add they were fleeting from there homes so they wouldn't get caught in a rocket artillery sector barrage. They were more worried about that then recording firefights.

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GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

facebook.com/emindogan3402/videos/266359280400144/

Pretty lights!

Even if the army is "fascist" how is it a bad thing that fascists are killing each other?

Are you brain dead? Would you prefer the Erdogan government that has been cooperating with ISIS stay in power? Would you like to see protests or limp dicked political reform or something that actually works?

t. never played Advance Wars

Bah, he was filming over the side of the bridge and there were hundreds of cars with blinkers on

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Ye, we're over 9000
get on with it now.

It's a bad thing, cause the ones suffering are the common folk on the streets.

If this wasn't the case, it'd be neutral.

It's the Spectacle.

That's fine. The Military knows they can't go back, or face mass execution. The Islamists won't let the army live this down, IF the government does (it won't). There's rioting in the streets, people being shot at, left right and center. There's lines being drawn in the stone between Secular and islam. It very well could turn into a civil war.

The "common folk" that are supporting a fascist government. If they don't want to get hurt they should go home, the army isn't raiding homes.

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That's true, I was going off of some US Air Force studies.
I don't like turn-based games.

Better a civil war than an unopposed, ISIS-collaborating theocracy.

Teşekkürler yoldaş. Ama barikatlar kadar değil dek.

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You goddamn faggot apologist the only reason they are even outside is because their daddy told them to go die for him

twitter.com/DailySabah/status/754076964571537408

fuckin Turks are dissing us

Everyone here should read "Coup d'etat: a practical guidebook"

IT'S HAPPENING

JOIN #THEHAPPENING FOR LATEST NEWS

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Is he wrong, though?

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I just hope my family gets out safe.

Don't worry about it too much. Gul and Erdogan don't represent all of the Turkish People here come the spooks again!. Just the Islamists.

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The common folk of turkey are brain dead morons who voted in an idiot who wants to start the neo ottoman empire.
I have no sympathy for them.

BREAKING: 4 coup-attempting soldiers, including 1 high-ranked, neutralized by police after attempt to take over state TV - @anadoluagency

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754093750964592640

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Can we start fucking murdering people who bring up Game of Thrones to talk about serious shit?

Hdp says they are against coup on democratic principles

great idea, we can murder cenk and stop the coup

Any time I listen to a radio program, the minute they have a journalist on there to provide "expert commentary," I immediately start listening to something else. Their job is literally repeating things that other people said.

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I fucking laughed out loud.

I think their job is pretty much to parrot whatever politicians tell them to in order to legitimize it.

Erdogan won the election with just 13.3% of the vote, he doesn't represent the average Turk.

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How is this bullshit possible?

twitter.com/Sare_Oztrk/status/754088207814422528

What a weird fucking footage.

comfy as fuck tbqh

Fuck @Conflicts has a lot of retards.

It's not even affiliated with the show lel.

Corruption and Pro-Capitalist Islamism go hand in hand.

Pockets of Turkish Erdogan supporters are rioting in the Netherlands.

The Blairite coup failed, though.

I was going to say, and what's the point, but then I remembered that they were Muslims.

what now

Shows over, government is restoring power, Turkish army is giving up.

Hmmm

Is anyone else finding 8ch slow as fuck?

nos.nl/artikel/2117897-gespannen-sfeer-bij-turks-consulaat-in-rotterdam.html

ffs

my dad just contacted me thank god he is save

Why? That's hilarious.

People have joked about serious shit as long as there have been people. You can't censor comedy. Or are you a tankie?

Woah dude! You're so radical! Totally anti-capitalist and shit.

Trebikler.

I'm really glad to hear it.

Yeah, a bit. Lot of traffic on Holla Forums, I imagine.

Glad to hear that, comrade.

Your dad just contacted me too.
He said he's going to come into my room at night naked and beat me up

Every time some dipshit makes a pop culture reference to Game of Thrones I just want to rip his fucking head off.

congrads comrade

They took the ideology pill.

Most Turkish-Dutch I've spoken about it are nationalistic about Turkey, but can't explain further. In fact, most of them are nationalistic about Turkey alone and don't support nationalism in broad.
I'm not sure why Turks are as nationalistic as they are. Maybe somebody with better understanding of the culture, history and society can provide perspective.

Did you see the bit where the reporter was harassed on camera? Apparently they had to drive out of there like crazy, because the camera staff was being attacked. Some shit.

Good stuff, comrade.

Why is Erdogan free? Isn't "kill/kidnap/arrest current leader" pretty much coup 101?

user, don't make promises you can't keep. ;)

He was on vacation outside of the country.

Duuuude, so fucking edgy! You're so cool and anarchist man.

Fucking turks need to leave, if they dont want to be dutch they need to fuck off to turkey

he was out of the country

He was either abroad at the time, or fled as soon as he got word about the coup. Personally, I think they made the vacation stuff up, and that he ran at the first sign of trouble.

final video for the night, i reckon

What exactly are you trying to do here?

Thank god you're here to put him in his place!

It wouldn't be so bad if it was only regular idiots doing it. But news websites that are supposed to be the "serious news" employing the "serious pundits" do it.

Will something like this ever happen in America?

That has nothing to do with edginess or anarchism, and everything to do with the fact that people who make that sort pop culture "jokes" are philistine morons.

He's allegedly in Bodrum on holiday or currently fleeing to Europe.

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754097258786881536

TURKEY: "Every warplane flying over Ankara will be immediately shot down”: PM Yıldırım - @DailySabah

I can't even view the picture, but if you're not sick of "omg, it woz lyk a fing wot out the movey it woz" and "i felt lyk a woz on summert out da telly!" all I can infer is that you must be younger than me, because it becomes a fucking retarded trope after a bit.

Whenever a bomb goes off, or a gun is fired at someone, I open up the news report and I just fucking know going in someone is going to betray their coddled fuckwit views of the world.

I think I've heard of many instances were coups are made while the leader is a way so that he can't respond. Ghadaffi took power when the old monarch was getting health care treatement somewhere far away

nah he's right, fuck that shit

respectable journalists today are not above going

I really don't want to image what kind of replacement governement they would come up with.

America doesn't have the same history of coups and Obama isn't a radical islamist as far as we can tell

No. The US military doesn't fuck around internally like that. If they were ever deployed internally, it would only be at the behest of the President, or possibly as the culmination of a long-brewing civil war. It wouldn't be like this, coming out of nowhere.

US military establishment is too tied to business and too occupied to ponder nonsense like that

… this is the most counter revolutionary thing I've heard in my life…

YOU IDIOTS!
THE ARMY IS NOT OUR COMRADES!
ARE THEY GONNA MAKE THINGS "BETTER"? NO? WHY CELEBRATE???

Greek coup 1967, political leader were sent to islands or fled the country. No deaths. except for commies

TRYING to flee.

Then what was the point in staging the coup tonight?

bomb hit parliament

t. a facebook comment I saw

See?
That's what I call "revolutionary"!

Niggaz. IF this is a small group then it is not a real attempt at coup it is likely staged by Erdogan to create an excuse to tighten his grip.

If it is indeed a real coup military commanders would likely do it with victory in mind, and they would not be arrested by police at the airport, and they would have control of Erdogans whereabouts.

it's all over

Putin savaged your mom

t. facebook comment

… staging a coup you know will fail…
… Current Goverment comes out of it as heros…

I wander…

Sometimes groups will deliberately stage coups when the president is out of the country, presumably so that he can't respond as effectively and it takes longer for his orders to reach subordinates.
It might have also just not been well-planned.

Maybe because this is a coup, not a revolution, there is a very big difference you know.

Fug. Am I the only one who juts wanted to see what happens when shit hits the fan successfully? I don't even support either side, I just wanted to see some shit getting fucked up.

"people should stay in their homes and let things roll"

THAT'S counter-revolutionary.

BREAKING: Bomb thrown at Turkish Parliament in #Ankara: witnesses - @anadoluagency

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754099171037212673

BREAKING: Large explosion just reported in #Istanbul. Cause so far unknown. - @CeylanWrites

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754098855206068226

I don't get it, why don't they open fire?

Fucking pussies man.

Well "shit getting fucked up" means that civilians who din du nuffin are going to die.

THIS isn't a revolution.

Why do you even support Erdogan. Even if it's implicitly.

its happening.

They probably know they'll be facing trial in a few days

very revolutionary

So, according to you, the people should only express their opinion when the official revolution is decleared.

How about "you get to vote every 4-5 years. Why are you protesting?"

"I do not support feminism"
"Oh, so you think women should be breeding machines?"

Can I not just not support a coup that is not commie or whatever, without supporting erdogan?

Do we have to take sides, even in wars that are not ours?

He wasn't saying anything like that, Groucho. He was saying that this is a coup, not a revolution.

and with the joke of the day: the american goverment was "surprised" by this coup

it looks like the coup failed completely

I don't know if you ever saw the Tom Cruise movie where he tries and fails to kill Hitler. The deciding factor is when the communication ministry (dunno if it's real), decides to broadcast Hitler's messages and not the ones of the coup makers. So the deciding factor in the coup attempt is when they dont have control of the communication infrastructure.

Now flashforward to today. The communication is democratized. We are seeing twitter videos of what is actually happening, and then both sides are trying their best to display PR that they have the situation under control, the reality is hard to know at the moment. Government is claiming they have control, the coup makers say they have it, obviously it can't be both :D

In the past Erdogan couldn't mobilize this much civlians this quickly. Very interesting times

Here is a fine example of 5/5 AKP propaganda

We can just sit back and watch the world burn…

I fucking told you so

I'd just try to get myself and my nearest to a safe place with supplies tbh, fuck risking my life for Erdogans gain with some really fucking haunted spooklords

There is nothing close to a revolution happening here, this is a spur-of-the-moment coup, there is no revolutionary potential at all, in fact it seems the opposite considering there are so many pro-government protestors all shitting up the streets with their nonsense. A revolution has certain conditions and preconditions that need to be met to actually even be considered a revolution at all and this coup exhibits a grand total of zero of any of those.

what a time 2 be alive

That cracked me up.

kek

It's not like these people are the sharpest. They probably thought "Solidarity!" when Erdogan made a thinly veiled request for meat shields

You've claimed that a military coup – or rather this one – will not improve the situation at hand. That is indirect support for the status quo, Erdogans regime. Even if you don't support any revolt except the Revolution, that still bleeds favouritism for the status quo.

My question is what you see in Erdogans government that needs t o be maintained. That is favorable over a coup and new government.

Please keep your acridity to yourself.

Enjoy the parties while you can, kafir.

I don't get invited to parties

If people don't want the army to take over, good for them. If they then rebel against Erdogan as well, even better.

I am.

Is the army taking over better? I don't see anything good in the status quo. I don't see anything good in the army taking over to "protect", either.

I haven't even heard any gunfire for an hour

I know that feel.

So why choose the status quo over the coup?

facebook.com/kingbeyazpolarr/videos/1071544362930995/

This stream most interesting atm. Lots of gunfire.

twitter.com/DiegoCupolo/status/754101362795753472

So many fucking people on social media pondering that this is staged in order to give the current president more power

People have become so politically lazy that the only ways through which they can understand world politics is through conspiracy theories and Game of Thrones analogies

I choose nothing.
The people there choose.
If the coop had popular support, it wouldn't have failed. Nor would people rush to the banks and so on.

Ankara does seem to be where it's at, that's where I posted the facebook stream with lots of fighting before. I keep bouncing around there though and hear nothing. Probably just bad timing on my part, but bombs are fucking loud. You can hear them from one side of a city to the next.

I don't know who's shooting, but that's quite frequent gunfire.

Yeah, I mean where do you actually get the bodies from? Do they drag homeless corpses out the morgue and play dress up, with blank firing shootouts? Are asploded cars sneakily dragged onto the road under cover of smoke bombs? Are the downed aircraft remote controlled or holographs? I have to get to the bottom of this conspiracy.

Latuff is such a fucking retard

So you support a dictator, because he has political support.
Fascinating.

Ah yeah, this is the one I posted earlier and the only one I heard gunshots on. This guy knows where all the action is!

Then again when I watched him first time round he was the only person moving towards the gunfire. Absolute madman.

You'll see this picture again and again in your lifetime.

Oh shit it's really fucking heating up. Machine guns, bombs, sirens. I think the coup members are all from Ankara

Fucking hell, helicopter fire. Lots of running.

Fuck did a bomb just go off on the same street?

The militarization of the West marches on.

youtube.com/watch?v=a48o2S1cPoo
Coup Leader Cenk Ugyur is doing a live show now, he's already called for patriotic turks to rise up and smash kurdish stores and houses

Apparently, Al Jazeera America is reporting that the coup is over and has been suppressed. Erdoğan is now blaming a movement associated with Gülen (who lives in Pennsylvania) for inciting this coup, though they are denying it.

A friend from Germany also told me that this is allegedly Erdogan's plane: flightradar24.com/THY8456/a5a3952

Here is Al Jazeera's livestream: facebook.com/aljazeera/videos/vb.7382473689/10154473961533690/?type=2&theater

Absolutely haram

I see you pedro

What the fuck are you talking about.

A boot stamping on a human face, forever

inb4 the old SAM presidential takedown

inb4 the old subverted SAM presidential takedown, a downed airliner and an international incident

How can erdogans plane land, don't the couper's still have the airports on lockdown?

Maybe they just shoot people, because people don't matter

He's got the dragon lady on his side.

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How are people even so certain that he is riding that plane?

>twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/754087371252101124
Apologise, brexiteers.

Of all the stupid things I've read tonight, this is the stupidest.

Nope. Police took over.

Talk about narcisism!

youtube.com/watch?v=U0gjwpMb-k8

Here is some psychedelic 70s Turkish rock you can listen to while browsing the coup

But rock and roll is haram.

2016 is so fucking rad so far

Fuck sake Tolga, you're a pretty cool guy livestreaming a coup but did you have to wear that fucking mask?

But you are cheering for the secular army people right? I am, if nothing else because I like habbenings

turkey.liveuamap.com/

Here is a live map, that updates the coup

how so?

Please, takfir, this is a halal imageboard.

Edgy

The messy shit I took this morning had a bigger effect on this coup than Brexit, jesus christ.

Mastermind of Erdoğan's presidential election campaign, Erol Olçak and his 16-year-old son killed by coup soldiers on Bosphorus bridge.

saved

Gulen's crew, the Alliance for Shared Values, are denouncing the coup.

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754108677292982272

The Parliament is being bombed as we speak.

post sauce

facebook.com/oz.katerji/videos/1123167681084570/

English speaking streamer in istanbul

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turkey.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-july-mastermind-of-erdoans-presidential-election-campaign

hurriyetdailynews.com/situation-largely-under-control-after-coup-attempt-turkish-pm-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=101669&NewsCatID=341

Bombings and shootings are still going on. How is this "under control"?

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Cnn reporting it's cnn turk offices being stormed by soldiers

turkey.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-july-soldiers-involved-in-coup-attempt-retreat-from-atatrk

"Soldiers involved in coup attempt retreat from Atatürk airport, 2 generals arrested "

Not good for the coup if they are retreating, that's not how you coup

Far right are the ones taking advantage of it politically at the moment. Of course individually you could have different views.

was posted for mention of Olcak death

Fair enough.

My brother thinks this might have been a false flag by Erdoğan in order to increase nationalist sentiments and popular support and to provide an excuse to transition into an autocratic Islamist rule. His evidence is that the alleged flight path of Erdoğan's plane as linked in was a straight descent as opposed to circling the airport or coming in at a curve. He considers that alone to be evidence of it "most likely" being a false flag, since Erdoğan in his opinion simply couldn't seriously come in that quickly without knowing that he was safe and he'd only know that if the coup was not a serious threat to him (i.e., it was staged).

Is my brother just bullshitting or is he onto something?

Al Jazeera America doesn't work anywhere else for me.

Holy shit, shots fired

facebook.com/oz.katerji/videos/1123167681084570/
HOLY FUCK
HOLY FUCK
firing into crowds i think, holy fucking shit. jets flying close by, this guy running for his life

Yeah when the president is trying to return to the country you're couping then you really don't know how to coup

Guy is based as fuck.

Who are the good guys?

Watch this guys, jets are flying low over civs and the cops are shooting at the jets

jesus christ this fucking stream right now. jets flying by, police shooting at jets with small arms, this guy almost having a breakdown

It's gray and gray, military might bring in a lighter shade of gray if we're lucky.

holy fucking shit

We are watching history

Another big explosion in Ankara

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754112481245683712

Based journalist man

The coupers by virtue of being against Erdogan.

We live in a time that will be remembered as one of great turmoil. It's only getting started.

Name one decade since WW1 that had less shit going in

The '20s and the '90s, at least in the West.

Maybe if the coup wasn't squashed.

lol waste of bullets

facebook.com/muslu.apo.5/videos/10206802027074835/

This clip is not for the weak of heart. Fucking hell.

Mirror please.

It being taken out doesn't change the fact that the world is being slowly pushed towards more of these events. Revolution soon, but it probably won't be a glorious one.

Jesus Christ. Obviously civilians too, this is terrible.

BREAKING: Police and military exchange fire in #Istanbul's Taksim square, large explosion heard. - @AP

twitter.com/RealEnverHoxha/status/754114713072570368

All this did was make Erdogan even more paranoid and thus even more of a scumbag. And the Turks will open wide, just look at their behavior tonight.

Remember that history is not a consistent movement forward: it's a chaotic mess of random factors and events.

facebook.com/oz.katerji/videos/1123167681084570/

For those who missed

9:42 and 12:28

"Loud Explosion Heard At Istanbul's Ataturk Airport -Reuters Witness"

turkey.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-july-loud-explosion-heard-at-istanbuls-ataturk-airport

Maybe they got him?

Shit. Are those civilians?

What the fuck man. Nightmarish

Most likely, yes.

Lot of dead civilians.

Reminder that, as much as civilian deaths are tragic, many of the ones killed today are violently attacking the coup soldiers. I doubt these were simple executions.

facebook.com/AHMET.TOLGAY.TV/videos/1030686213718883/

CNN Turkey airing empty studio, sounds of gunfire in background.

Was one guy nearly blown in half there? Can rifles do that? God whats the death count of this shit? Must be in the hundreds by now.

How do you know?

It's likely some of that was 30mm helicopter fire.

Does that matter?

Fuck those two soldiers were lucky that jet flew over just as they were about to get pulled out of that truck and lynched. Literally seconds within getting themselves killed and that fucking bang goes off.

There's footage of helicopter shooting at ground targets, maybe that's what caused it.

Naught but a few hours, and already an apologist on leftypol with almost no information behind him.

From the other videos I've seen, it looks like they don't lynch coup-involved soldiers but sort of escort them to the police or something.

If that's the case than they didn't shoot civilians. They shot freedom fighters resisting military dictatorship. Not exactly better.

nice, i'm rooting for the secular military

Videos of them fighting against that tank crew, for one.

I think it does. It's worse to shoot people who aren't attacking you. Though that's probably also going on tonight, too.

Let me guess, it's because they have brown skin?

Plastic glory hunter

From the video someone else posted, the guy mentioned the soldiers were essentially kids who had no idea what they were doing there.

You're not from around here, are you?

Secularism is a spook. A society with religious liberty doesn't compel any additional freedom onto people, only more liberty onto religion

HELLOOOOOOOO SOCIOPATH!

it's okay i'm a supporter of the secular military, the rest of Holla Forums can support erdogan for all i care

There are pics of soldiers in the police department and they look like they're teenagers in costumes waiting for their parents to bail them out

'cause it's not just fundie fascist supporters. All parties condemned the coup, and better a fundie who can be voted out than a military with a long history of having the left lined up and shot.

Care to share?

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My only hope for this coup is that the political destabilization becomes beneficial for the kurds

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You have no idea what you're talking about.

HOLY FUCK THESE CHANTS

youtube.com/watch?v=sO0g09LfbNQ&feature=youtu.be

What are the implications of this coup for the narrative of the infallibility of the nation-state.

What are they saying?

Fuck off retard

Give me one reason why anyone but an Erdogan cuck would even be outside on the fucking streets right now? There are only so many news reporters.

It didn't seem like they did anything to the actual crew.

I don't see that happening.

Cnn some may be anti erdogan

Well, maybe I'm wrong, then.

They were already disarmed and in police custody I think, the mob were getting pissed off just because they were still around. The coup jets buzzed them but probably because they were late in helping them secure the square.

Large crowds greet President Recep Tayyip Erdogan as he emerges from a vehicle at Istanbul's Ataturk Airport.

turkey.liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-july-large-crowds-greet-president-recep-tayyip-erdogan

ABSOLUTE MAD MAN

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none, history is over
muh spectacle

twitter.com/Kia_Mak/status/754110571633643524

what are the people chanting??? whats the news anchor been saying??

Because they don't want to live in a military dictatorship.

That CNN stream is some cinematic shit.

Now there's one dude there, I think he's unaware that there are thousands of people watching him.

You know you've fucked up your coup hard when the president just comes waltzing back in, or the conspiracy nuts were right.

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At worst they'd be Erdogan 2.0.

he's probably kekking hard because erdogan was a cunt to them during the syrian intervention

That empty CNN live footage looks like a contemporary art installation.

The guys who led the 1980 coup were a lot more bloodthirsty and authoritarian than Erdogan.

Kill yourself, sociopath. You're unfit for humanity.

vaporwave album cover tbh

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Coup defeated. Erdogan back in charge.

Shit.

facebook.com/orhan.erbek.3/videos/10154330267284137/

Walking through the aftermath of tanks. Crushed cars, tanks litter the roads. Helicopter above, something could happen at any moment.

Next zombie flick should totally steal this

preach.

I'm sorry it didn't work out, Turkbros. I hope the purges spare you.

Sup prickly_cactus

This is not autism, they aren't this fucking annoying. Stop accepting psychological discourse so blindly anytime.

Real edgy, sperglord.

twitter.com/BalkanNewsbeat/status/754105974038855680

I didn't know unarmed civilians could literally hijack a tank

Empathy for fundie fascists IS retarded. Like I said, the only reason you're crying is because they have brown skin.

edgy basement dweller detected.

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at what point did anybody say this

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So, the coup was defeated?

If the PKK were ever to make a strike against the Turkish goverment, now would be the time..

facebook.com/musa.sahpaz/videos/743314009104263/

Shit's going down on this stream now.

I mean it. Commit suicide. You lack the basic faculties to qualify as human.

Emotionless and retarded? Yeah, definitely go suck a gun.

I don't know if those victims are fundamentalists or fascists or whatever. All I know is that they are human beings and civilians who were mowed down by military-grade fire and who were suffering in their final moments as they died on the street. That alone is a sufficient condition that demands empathy. Knowing their ideological positions or relationship to the events that unfolded doesn't change that basic fact. It may help me better understand the context of those events and recognize the potential inevitability or even necessity of their occurrence, but it won't change the basic fact that those events warrant empathy.

I don't give a shit what color of skin they have, Holla Forums. I care about the fact that they are people who are suffering. If it makes you feel any better, I won't feel the slightest bit of empathy if you put a bullet in your fucking skull, so please do so as soon as possible.

Looks like clashes are still ongoing. The coup wasn't successful, but it hasn't been broken yet, hope it doesn't turn into civil war.

until some solid information comes through, I'm assuming it's defeatist shills

I very much doubt they have the manpower, firepower or will to do such a thing at this current time.

Why? I see no downside to that.

PKK YOU GOTTA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE WEAK POSITION OF BOTH

mass death of civilians is just a meme, right xD

Speaking of the Kurds, do we have any information on what they're doing (if anything) right now?

I doubt they had any idea something like this was going to happen. They are probably trying to figure out what they can/should do if anything.

Holy shit, Erdogan literally calling out for "a cleansing" and even going as far as saying it's good that he has strong reasons for doing that

Reminding this is from a guy who got irate because of some German version of John Oliver and wanted Merkel to imprison him

I mean, if by miracle the Kurds DID manage to establish more communes over than Rojava over this, as the military is in shambles right now they may not fall to the same fate as literally every other commune before it - they may have a chance to establish a real foot hold as an even stronger bastion of socialism.

We can only hope.

the fuck are they doing with the bulldozers?

hard cover?

Islamist purge incoming

Is this another whoever wins we lose?

who cares? it's just fascist fuck erdogan supporters or kemalists fighting over who gets the fascist government

Do you guys think getting caught was part of the military's plan?

let's go into hypothetics, and the army starts executing muslims in the streets, then what?

Not arguments.

Are you sure you are the source of what one has to have to be a human? Because I could very well be psychotic and not have to care about any of your bullshit which you pretend is universal for anyone.

And yes, your thinking that psychology is the objective discourse (imply such a thing exists) of what is right and what is not in a mind is laughable, especially from a retarded primitivist. Eat lead, braindead moron.

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

it's almost as if you didn't post an argument either.

And now the president is back in power, his followers are mobilized and armed, and he has a reason to purge the military and become more repressive

Good job, Turks

You've blown my small world apart.

facebook.com/bulent.akgul.39/videos/1222809551105060/

another stream, less laggy. Are these the tanks controlled by pro-government unarmed civilians?

At least they tried

I worded that awfully I meant erdogan would purge the military of non islamists

FUCK. ME.

Certain basic emotions are essential components of the human condition. It's literally an integral part of our instincts and evolutionary history, so contending that they are merely products of social relations is not a tenable argument. If you lack these basic qualities, then you are by definition lacking in the essential criteria which defines your humanity.

I'm not a primitivist, fucking imbecile. This flag represents green anarchism and eco-socialism in general, and can include anarcho-communists who emphasize green issues (like me). Lurk more or get the fuck off this board.

Fuck off to >>>/vp/ with all the other underage

You are ruining this board.
Lurk more.

Fuck, am I seeing things or did I just see the three-crescented banner of the neo-fascist Grey Wolves in the live stream?

I don't know, I'll look out for it. will review footage afterwards, perhaps.

kek

ruh roh, 'ere come the rozzers.

It was like ten minutes ago, a vertical banner seemingly hanging down from a window or something.

Psychopaths are human. You falsely believe that there is some inherent goodness in being human.

This feels like some kind of celebration of the absurd

There is inherent empathy. Which is why the majority of people aren't homicidal maniacs.

Well Damn I was not expecting the coup to fail. Then again I am still wondering how the hell the pro-government civilians got hold of a tank.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozkurtlar#Links_to_the_Turkish_government_and_NATO

Lel.

i'm hearing this a lot and not seeing any evidence

It was reddit tier and it was on Holla Forums

It's not over till its over

So what? It's possible to have empathy for anyone, even someone you're killing at that very moment. What's your point?

Only you can explain the point and then fail to grasp it.

every western media service has been claiming its over and the entire military surrender for the last 4 hours.
Obviously if youve been watching the streams you know there is still shit going down.

Lacking empathy does not makeone a separate species, faggots.

Well most people aren't autistic either.

Loud explosion in Bostancı, İstanbul. Shit's not over until it's over.

Yeah but it can be extremely limited depending on your upbringing. The whole "care about strangers" already requires a decent upbringing, but "care about all human life because le inherent value meme" just requires flat-out indoctrination.

This is the average person who didn't get memed into caring about strangers.

Well I say fail I mean seizing the bastard Erdogan now that he is back in the country. Isn't that the purpose of a coup anyways? To capture the figure head? I don't what will happen but I do know Erdogan is using people as his meat shields and are completely brain washed.

Media is playing it down, hardly surprising.

I don't give the slightest fuck about your opinion. This board is already ruined and has been an abortive failure for at least a year now, if not since its beginning. Go play Russian roulette with a fully-loaded gun.

I didn't assert any inherent goodness, only an inherent ability to experience emotions such as fear, hatred, pain, empathy, love, happiness, joy, etc. Psychopaths may be humans but that's because they can experience emotions. Sociopaths generally cannot.

My point is that if you are incapable of experiencing that basic empathy, you are a sociopath and thus lack the basic qualities of humanity to be classified as one. Moreover, such individuals are an active danger to themselves and others and should be either subdued, rehabilitated, or—as a last resort—terminated as soon as possible.

Of course not, retard, but it does disqualify you of your humanity.

Will you boring fucking cunts please shut the fuck up? Nobody cares about your le Reddit Phd in Cyber Faggotry and Pop Psychlology. Just fucking stop it.

this.

Not that mad tbh