Holla Forums summed in one image

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Badly drawn MS Paint comics? Now that's original.

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butthurt freak btfo

cant argue to save his life

I am not a Marxist I just think you are worthless faggot

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Reminder that sage goes in all fields

This thread is now dedicated to triggering loberts, neo-nazis/fascists, and all other branches of our loud, irrational, and frankly annoying Holla Forumsacks here.

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No, I rather just call you a faggot.

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Low effort, tbh.

quite ironic coming from someone browsing leftypol

but the pic does exactly that. refute it on all points.

yeah nobody has read anything only YOU!

We are not mentally ill to get triggered like you.TOP KEK

top kek leftypol everybody

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youre the one who dont even try(literally)

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dat sum butthurt?
u mad bro?
y u mad?
u ok?

this is you

what?you make a butthurt picture that has nothing to do with politics and economics and im supposed to be the one who is butthurt?nice logic just like your ideology.

why cant lefties do anything right?

This too, is you.

What does that even mean?Please go and take your meds because youre starting to make bizarre posts again.

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No. You being a rightist has nothing to do with why people aren't arguing with you. We argue with Nazi's all the time. It's because your picture is just plain wrong. I don't know where to start refuting it than to say everything in the picture is a straw man. If you want someone to argue please bring up a specific point you're curious about, you vacuous dimwit.

I copied your picture, so when I asked if you were butthurt a 'yes' would have sufficed.

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I know it's stupid to respond to someone being intellectually dishonest but, have you read any marxist or anarchist economic theory to know what the fuck are you talking about?

Forgot to take off my shiposting flag

Lolberts can't be bothered to read their own theory, otherwise they'd realize it's a fucking scheme to transfer more power into porky's hands.

Nice delusion you got there.Its strange that people on Holla Forums always use arguments while leftists only use memes and opressed cards.I think this board is cringier than lolcow.

Yeah while screaming LITERALLY HITLER and WHITE MALE.
because you just cant

you copied only the drawing the text has nothing do with anything.

yeah you sure showed me here you might intellectual

every time

also really ironic considering the same can be said with all your ideologies.lefties are walking contradictions and champions at mental gymnastics

Explain to me the basics of the LTV without googling to cheat

My sides have transcended. Someone at Breitbart needs to write an article on being self aware so that you can read it.

Why does Holla Forums take bait so much?

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Thanks for the (you) :^)

Guys stop posting ITT, it's obviously some Holla Forums idiot.

This thread started as a shitflinging without any proper discussion, continues to be shitflinging without any proper discussion and will be shitflinging without any proper discussion until it dies. It really gets boring when such garbage threads pop up literally every single day.

Learn to fucking hide the threads you fuck faucets.

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Fuck

Intellectual dishonesty is using constant fallacies to avoid the central point.

Again, have you read any marxist/anarchist economic theory to know what are you talking about?

Stop responding you cretin

you sound like a broken robot who says thing Holla Forums btfoed him with and now he thinks nobody would notice.
youre the one who needs self awarnes considering how out of touch with reality all leftists are.

np i laught at your pathetic tries to argument at
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cant argue to save his life

im still waiting for you to disprove the FIRST PICTURE

Another (you), thanks bro!

you too!it also helps me but my thread so its always on the first spot!

What arguments? That socialist mean "the state" by "the people". Only ML idiots do that.
That Marxian theory does not believe that exchange value is the nexus between supply and demand? Also false, it does.
Indeed, the fact that it was run by the state rather than the people is exactly why many people say that it's got nothing to do with the kind of socialism they want.

So no argument is presented. It's just a shitty MS cartoon.

Stop responding, close the thread, turn off the computer and do something more productive than arguing on the internet

you didn't disprove anything did you even read the picture in the first place i can give you the text variant if you need it let me know.

cant argue to save his life

Communism has no problem with people with money, as long as this money is not made by expropiatory means (surplus value)

Marx did not advocate for goverment control on the means of production, it advocated for workers control.

In "communist" marxist leninist countries standards of living increased, in the ussr life expectancy went from 40 to 70 years, iliteracy decreased, it made a feudal shithole into a industrial superpower in a few years and multiple technologic and human right advancements.

Communism is the classless stateless society.

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I don't argue in threads in which OP throws ad personams everywhere because I know it's a waste of time to do so.

Stop responding you tardlord

Yeah funny considering I live in a country controlled by the ussr and it was literally fascism and people hated it.dont going to talk about all the restrictions they had and the hard work all had to do.typical millenial thinks ussr was some heavenly utopia.

cant argue to save his life

yea you sure showed me
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cant argue to save his life

lol whut

I'm citing historical facts and you are using personal experience and feels to back up your claims.

Just ask yourself this, was the country better before or after bolshevism?

If the Soviet Union was LITERALLY fascism, why are pollyps against it?

Really makes you think about stuff

Shit bait thread.

Stop responding

nice joke
but thats your whole ideology
i think all of youre insane quoting things Holla Forums told you already thinking it makes you a debater.
its not a personal experience.there are numerous literature from people who hated it that much to risk their lives and even some protested.do i need to tell you the number of people ussr killed because of petty things(not going to even talk about people who rebeled because of how shitty it was).

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because they are not fascists you mongoloid lefties obviously have reading disability and cant understand anything.

cant argue to save his life

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nice logic once again.

You dun goofed.

yeah i guess communism worked then

It's a historical fact that russia was much better off after the tzar was btfoe'd, this while also dealing with the white army in the civil war and the nazis in ww2

Stop arguing with that fag.

Also, I forgot:

Epic strawman pham.

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how does it feel to get btfoed by your own post .TOP KEK

Sorry mate, but I think the French Revolution improved the standrad of living, I think the destruction feudalism, replaced by capitalism, improved the standard of libing, and I think communism will improve the standard of living over capitalism. Now, do you have an argument, or are we going to post opinions itt?

Improved simply because of the time they were living not communism.If you think technological advancements didn't play role then youre beyond saving.

Still no arguments.

Let this thread die already

Op gets btfo and spams "u mad" as damage control
Nothing new here

I'm sorry, I do not under stand this statement. Communism has never been achieved in human history.

If you think those technological advances will be worse under communism, then you are mistaken. Free fromb supply and demand, and state regulations, science will prosper

ftfy
it's literally the retarded believe Holla Forumsacks have on what leftism is
protip: read books, faggot

Nice bump you double nigger

how does it feel to get btfoed by your own post friendo?

where was i btfoed?stop using the words i used already.its makes you look like a retarded.

EVERY TIME
They obviously are.You can find by yourself how much communism stopped technological progress.
yeah just for their agenda

leftists are the special snowflake faggots.literally no straight people there.

Nice statement. What's the argument?

Nice lack of evidence.

What would they stand to gain?

NOT A SINGLE ARGUMENT IN YOUR POST

Apply yourself

I wasn't btfoed because you say so fam, but if that comforts you then, let's say so. Anyways, this thread has finally slowed down, so it's time for a [-], cya

why should I?you already said ussr was communism.
There are enough book about it.If youre was so intellectual you would have know already but lets summarize it
because communism never works and people always rebel it so producing propaganda is the only thing they can do.

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but you was.you made a fallacy in your own reply.

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thanks friendo just another reason to bump :)

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i guess this is the only tie you can see leftist do anything.top kek

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if you could only prove it…(but lefties cant prove anything)

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op just wants free sages fucking cuck

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kek.typical leftie.when he cant argue he have to silence his opponent

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dw fam i can make million more threads if needed

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sadly you can't sage the truth :(((((((

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i never said anything in that vain.simply that he hide the truth.

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Are you 14 and from newgrounds?

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but yet you cant even disprove them and sage like a scared baby

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It's on you to prove them in the first place. Prove to me that Hitler didn't like to duck his niece.
Go on, quote him. If he doesnt say it, he must have liked to fuck his niece.

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People would've been bothered to refute your argument if you actually posted a well structured argument instead of a shitty strawman mspaint comic.

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This tbh.

False, those rich guyst are pursuing their self interest. They're not acting the way they are because "chaotic evil lol".
You produce 100 dollars of wealth, you get paid 10 dollars, the rest to the boss who provide the factory you use so that's not stealing, that's just taxation :^)
governement =/= workers.
Value is created by work. Money is an abstract representation of value. The fact you can't distinguish one of another says how much kool aid you drank.
Aknowledged by LTV, supply and demand is what (partially) determines prices, but that's not the source of profits, which come from the exploitation of work. As as said, you Produce 100 dollars of wealth, you get paid small fraction of it.
Never achieved, as reached, as "yeah it's done".
But for the next parts, let's say you just meant Everytime communism at been tried.
Seychelles are one of the best place in Africa, USSR enhanced the general conditions of living, people tend to forget of how much of a shithole tsarist Russia was. Cuba as high tier health system.
Do the guys working in farms or factories controlled said farms and factories? No? Not communism. Governements can call themselves what they like, words still have meaning.
Welfare is capitalist states invention to keep unemployed or impoverished people quiet (cf Imperial Prussia). Read a fucking history book

The only slightly intersting point about that is:
You could have set up a proper discussion about vanguardism, some potentially interesting posts could have been made, but no, you choose to be an inflammatory asshole.
Not like discussing things was your intention anyway.

I'll actually give it a quick go-over

I, as a Marxist, do not believe this. Having a lot of money doesn't in itself say anything about your relationship to the means of production. You can be, say, an engineer or an actuary, make $100k+ a year, and still rely on selling your intellectual labor.
The free market has certain problems (everyone will point out negative externalities and the lack of productive and allocative efficiency in monopolies) but is pretty good, specifically in context as an improvement for most people over feudalism and mercantilism. The quotidian nature of capitalism, however, is perpetual accumulation of market power and a ceaseless deathmarch away from perfect competition. It is in the material interest of an individual capitalist to suppress his competitors and interfere in product, resource and labor markets. The extent to which he may do so is determined by that to which he succeeds in accumulating capital. The modern drug cartel is an illustrative example. We see what is essentially a state (local monopoly on use of force) emerge naturally to do all of this.
Government is inherently a device of class rule, in the same vein as I have just discussed. Expanding its power and scope without changing the property relations and material conditions that generated it in the first place does nothing to emancipate the proletariat.
A serious skewering of the LTV. This series may serve to right your course: youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3F695D99C91FC6F7
You could also just read Capital. It's simply a separate technical definition that the theory is built around (and goes back to Adam Smith.) You need to distinguish between value in use (utility, what we mean when we say "value" colloquially) and value in acquisition (cost to produce something in terms of objective, material factors.) Nobody rejects supply and demand, but what you mean when you use this phrase may be incorrect in the technical sense, like the Holla Forumsyp's incorrect and pseudoscientific use of the term "evolution."
Communism isn't something that can be "implemented." It's the period of anarchy following successful abolition of the objective material conditions that give rise to the state (pic related. "Implement communism" in the sense you've used it is so amorphous and nonspecific it can refer to literally anything. In theory, we use technical definitions with clear and consistent meaning, which we then may objectively judge things on their conformity to.) Clearly a PROGRAM which calls for the creation and existence in perpetuity of a class of authoritarian bureaucrats will maintain these material conditions and we know right out of the gate that it will not create a communist society.
Ditto the above. A no true Scotsman fallacy takes this form:
A: No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
B: Angus is a Scotsman and puts sugar on his porridge.
A: Well, no TRUE Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
See how it's a special case of moving the goalposts, which hinges on arguing about a purposefully vague, ill-defined object or category (Scotsman) and equivocating? Essentially what you're doing with your abject non-definition of "communism"? The "not real communism" argument is based again on technical definitions, and takes more this form:
A: Angus isn't a Scotsman.
B: Yes he is.
A: While he does have a Scottish-sounding name, he does not have Scottish citizenship or ancestry, has never lived in or visited Scotland, and lacks any immediate relatives who have ever lived in or visited Scotland.
Once more, "expand the scope of the welfare state" assumes the false premise of bourgeois class rule. Welfare is used as a pressure valve - a tactical decision on the part of the bourgeoisie to make a small sacrifice as insurance against catastrophe (revolution, but not necessarily a communist one with adequate leadership and satisfactory program which actually ends class rule. Any challenge to bourgeois interests.) The socialist program is to secure the rights of the worker to the product of his own labor, which is stolen in the wage system. It is to excise parasitism altogether, rather than make workers the parasites of their own parasites.

Not to even mention the implication that leftism doesn't staunchly reject all forms of idpol.
Bump because this is a worthwhile contribution.

g8 work comr8s

Every bait thread is an opportunity and a challenge. On the most practical level, whether or not it's bait is irrelevant. Intention is irrelevant.
Do you think Hillary believes what she's peddling?
Do you really think it matters?

most of the replies are spam you tard

great post my man.

Why shouldn't we want free stuff OP?

I doubt you can give a reason.