The conspiracy movement

shit, 1st line was supposed to be green text.

take the Local Pill

drop all the nonesense: the future of nationalism is in Local Politics

You realize the vast majority of people consider holocaust denial and WWII revisionism as the worst kind of conspiracy theory

This election has been the biggest redpill ever swallowed.

Sage because your thread is dicks.

Last time I looked on an old conspiracy site i used to lurk, they were about 60/40 right wing to left wing but there was a growing sjw type presence in many threads.
Even recall some jidf type white knighting in threads about "zionists"

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It's simultaneously important to remember that "conspiracy theorist" is a (((CIA))) discrediting psyop, as well as that most conspiracy theories are still incomplete if not totally off the mark. But there is nothing wrong with people who seek the truth, especially in the face of ridicule. The only problem is when people let confirmation bias take over and start believing improbable things to be absolutely without sufficient evidence to back it up.

Generally I think that fostering and encouraging stereotypical conspiracy theorists is usually good, as long as they aren't running head long down an obvious disinfo line. If they truly want to know truth and have the courage to stand up to some ridicule, they have potential to go all the way. The best method I've found is to lead them to the answer, but let them realize it's the Jews all on their own. That's why they flipped out so much at Trump's Florida speech.

Fuck off with this CTR, Alphabet thread. 9/11 was an inside/outside job. Saudi's, Jews, Bush/Clinton/Rothschild/Rockerfeller/etc…
WACO happened because the ATF and Clinton wanted to prove a point.
Oklahoma City bombing wasn't done by the patsy Mcveigh, but was another ATF/Clinton/Bush/CIA operation to prove a point, as well as to effectively kill the growing militia movement problem they were having, by pinning the attack on militia member(s).

Conspiracies happen all of the fucking time, it's how all governments operate. Secrets exist because if everyone knows what you are doing, and it's illegal, you probably can't do it.

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That's true to a degree, but the actual bombing was done by the Mossad.

The Jew is pretty much the end of all conspiracy theories.

Why do you pathetic kikes even try?

kys nigger

sage

illuminati globalist elite reptile slide

can you redpill me on the pharma connection, never heard that before.

Conspiracy theorists are the easiest people for us to convert. Do you really think we'll win over the kike-worshiping Evangelicucks who read Breitbart, like the Aut-Right is suggesting?

Good thing I've got my TURBOMAN TESTOSTERONE COLLOIDAL SILVER

remember to report all kikes

Any conspiracy theorist worth their salt is already a Trump supporter. I've been down the rabbit hole and it all makes complete logical sense to me. People who haven't figured it all out just need to learn to connect some dots themselves

BTW the kikes we all hate are zionists and they aren't 'real jews' well actually the talmud itself is a corruption of judaism but anyways many orthodox jews are against israel. The real people in charge are literally just against god and some sort of satan worshipers.

I could go on and on but it doesn't really matter, just that Trump is anti establishment and Clinton sucks Saudi/Israeli dick

There is no conspiracy. There is only the "Dominant Minority".

Google "Dominant Minority"

Read Platos Republic. You are living in the cave.

If the television told you to eat your own shit, you would eat your own shit. You do not need jews to control people this stupid.

You just have to look at who owns everything and what their economic interests are (controlling and living off the human cattle).

Everything else is a maze of distractions. The low IQ people will die in that maze. They wont make it out. It takes too much time.

It is a distraction from seizing power. The human cattle cannot even figure out or understand what is happening in the world, let along organize or take back control of their lives. They are children, pitted against a merciless, organized minority.

Many of them are just irredeemably retarded even after they glom onto the fact that "hm, yes, all of this seems to be connected to jews."

These ones will still insist the whole Trump saga and everything related to it is just theater .

I think the big problem is that they have this faux-elitism, they like to imagine themselves as enlightened and having knowledge no one else does which leads them to hold idiot beliefs.

Lolberturdianism failed, Stefan Moneyyid too. Go be a spastic somewhere else.

classic spook post. You are a psyOp tier shill.

When will you learn we cannot be subverted. The conspiracy is real and we know it. Fuck off with your shillery.

Fucking lame low-effort outsider shitpost.

Kike reported.

No, it's jews

hivemind

Actually true Zionists are not the main threat they are nationalists acting in the interest of thier nation, which mirrors our own goal. They generally wear thier goals on thier sleeves and are easy to identify and treat accordingly. The true threat comes in the form of Marxist/NWO kikes and thier goy cattle. The 'civic nationalists', internationalists, globalists, Marxist professors, ect. These are the subversive element that hides among us and pretends to be us. Many of these dislike Israel (but would gladly flee there and accept money from them), and are the primary agents who have actively demoralized our people and reduced our racial fitness (reproduction). The Zionist and the Marxist interact for mutual goals against us but despise each other.

If we remove the Marxist, the Zionist is declawed. If we remove the Zionist, the Marxist remains to poison us.

Jewish nationalism doesn't exist. Zionism is internationalism.

No, both are equally our enemies and have to be removed at the same time with the same oven.

How do you break into local politics?

Zionists are nationalists who use internationalist Jews to accomplish their goals. Both are harmful, the internationalist Jews are more so.

I will reiterate, the Marxist/internationalist Jews are the priority target. Zionists with the internationalist element removed is a much lesser threat that can be more easily dealt with.

Internationalists first, then Zionist. Strategic prioritization

Oy vey.

Again, Zionists are internationalists. If you want to remove the "internationalist element", you have to remove them.

There is no such thing as jewish nationalism.

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Reading comprehension you dumb fuck, yes all kikes are a threat but some are more o a threat than others. Without Marxists, Zionists have no power. Without Zionists, Marxists still have power. It's pretty fucking simple.

We don't have the manpower to fight a war and two fronts therefor the strategically sound decision for vanquishing both foes is to target the Marxists first.

Trump is using Zionists as a nationalist foil (comparisons to Israel's wall) in order to go after the Marxist within our ranks. We should adopt this strategy when attacking Marxists. It does not mean we have to slobber Israel's dick or defend pretend to be pro kike, it means we can draw comparisons to Israel when arguing for ethnic nationalism against Marxist kikes putting them in a double bind.

We're never going to help legitimize Israel.

>>>/ovens/

conspiracy theory is effectively just the method of the skeptic in action for the sake of philosophy (love of knowledge):
Pv~P (~P = QvRvSvT…)
in order to determine intent derived from consequences.

it's going to be more prevalent whether you like it or not due to the antimeritocratic nature of multiculturalism as differing demographics have tribalistic dispositions (the left supports the left and the right supports the right).

there is potential for false flags of course, but this does not discredit conspiracy theory/detective work.
i'm already making assumptions about your intent through the substance of your post.

the proper formation of an ideology starts with good reasoning and open communications (all those virtuous elements within people that are conducive to people being open to communications).

everyone has their own unique belief systems based on their own unique circumstance. the world is a medium. observe, reason, shed light.

On the surface, Zionism IS Jewish nationalism. It is for and in support o a Jewish ethnostate. Thier ethnic national interest involves international goals (securing resources and military aid from world powers) which brings them into mutual goal territory with Marxists.

Destroy the Marxists and the Zionists will fall soon after. Going after both at once is a much more difficult proposition. Arguing against a Jewish ethnostate while attempting to promote our own is a poor strategy when used to argue against Marxists.

Priorities, strategy, tactics.

And if Israel is reduced to a quarantined state with little support? I don't care if the Jews want to hole up in the ME as long as they don't have influence here in the west. I'd rather they disappeared entirely but that is not a realistic goal

There's no reason to think Zionism is just going to magically go away if Marxist kikes are removed. The jews already have their tentacles in our government and really all positions of power and influence.

At this point, the Marxist jews (whose main purpose is to weaken their host) aren't all that important to the jewish agenda.

Never going to happen.

Israel can't exist with "little support", it has to be in control, and if it gets to the point where it's facing outside destruction (due to a lack of support), they'll go Samson. Israel has to go.

once you fully understand pics related, you can apply it and allow others to take note of their own immorality.
understand this fully. it will only serve your interests.
have patience and allow others to be thrown off balance by the deformity of their own egos.

If they haven't figured Jews are behind everything they deserve fried brains
If you wanna redpillthem go right ahead, but'll have a hard time making them swallow the redpill that the WW2 heroes they worship so much were actually the bad guys

I am

I just changed machines

If they lose the west they will crawl to Russia or China.

Zionism wont magically disappear with marxism eradicated, I never made claims to that effect. What I do claim is that Zionism's primary tool in the west is Marxists. If they are denied that tool, Zionism will be much easier to expell.

I disagree, Those who have slithered their way into power in our countries have a distinct marxist bent. Neoconservativism (Zionist/Internationalists) is dying and being replaced with a much more nationalistic flavour. Americanism (Trump) uses Zionists to argue for similar policies (Nationalism) for America. The Zionists have been marginalized as a threat because to argue in favor of jewish nationalism is now an argument for American nationalism. The Zionist elements are now forced to turn to the marxists for aid. If the Marxists are defeated, the Zionists have no recourse but to bend the knee to Americanism and the relationship between America and Isreal will be rebalanced in favor of America. From there, as long as the Marxists are truly purged, it is a simple affair to make demands of Isreal in exchange for continued support. Isreal will be the vassal or it will have to seek support elsewhere.

Other than Trump, the entire Republican party is completely owned by jews. I don't know where you're getting this idea that only Marxist jews have power anymore, but it's bullshit.

It's impossible to have a relationship like that with jews.

Of course not ONLY the marxist jews have power. My argument is that the Zionist Republicans (neoconservatism) has just suffered a massive defeat at the hands of Trump. He has successfully subverted support for Israel into support for american nationalism. This does not remove the existence of Zionists in the republican party, it does however marginalize their ability to make everything about Isreal. The more they cry support for Isreal, the more they have to accept the Trump wall, and anti immigration policies (Israeli policies) for America.

Then they will lose support and will have to run to China or Russia to parasitize off of them instead.

I thought it was the Reptilians?

Look into the Greater Israel project by Oded Yinon. a plan for their Zionism. Is it Nationalism to be parasitic and slither into neighboring states to create conflict allowing seizure of land? Is it nationalism to consider the rest of the human race as cattle and acceptable to treat/use as slaves? Don't be such a fucking cuck

Also, let's be really specific. Zionism could in theory be good if it was just traditional nationalism, but if the disgusting practices are specified then it becomes clear that it is not 'good' as it's a twisted parasitic ideology

What exactly are the 'bad' specifics of Marxism and how does it relate to it's supposedly toxic ideology (which of course also begs the definition)?

I've read up on a little bit of it and come across some contradictory perspectives and narratives so I'm not sure what to think of it

That's just code for Jews. Think reptilian brain and how they are devoid of any higher function or capacity of awareness and are just concerned about the lower needs of food and shelter and etc.
Also there are theories that they are some devil worshipers, the devils being extra-dimensional beings that are also sometimes called reptilians

In a word: yes. That is how JEWISH ethnic nationalism presents itself.

Remember, ethnic nationalism manifests itself based on the character and self interest of the ethnicity in question. The self interest of the kikes is to secure the land and grow their population.

In contrast, aryan nationalism is more focused on expelling invasive genes from the vast holdings once controlled solely by our people. Two similar ethnic problems with very different solutions and methodology.

No they are completely different problems. Why are you ignoring their obsession of increasing land?

I am not ignoring it…

From a Jewish ethnic nationalist perspective, the self interest of the Jewish race in Israel is to acquire more resources in order to increase the prosperity and to achieve a stable population of Jewish people as a nation. One of the resources that the nation of Israel considers for itself to be scarce is land area. Thus, it is in the ethnic nationalist interest of Israel to acquire nearby land by whatever means they posses.

This is nationalistic logic. You may disagree with Israel's tactics in this regard but they come from an ethno nationalistic goal.

As for us western whites, one thing we have in great abundance is land area. Our primary ethno-nationalist concern is that our rightful land area is being flooded with non whites and our resources are bein consumed while our reproduction rates are plummeting. Our ethnic national interest is directed at preventing and reversing these trends.

Both Jewish nationalists and white nationalists have the same goal for thier respective people (stabilize/increase prosperity and ethnic population). The difference is in the context.

The kicker in this comparison is the issue of the a-national/globalist Marxists. This element is used by nationalist Jews to secure resources from the west to achieve thier nationalist goals. The Marxists are also the primary source of our problems in the west in that they are actively preventing ethnic nationalist goals from being enacted by whites. Without the Marxist element, our interactions with Isreali nationalists would be nation to nation, with the understanding that each party acts in thier people's self interest. If aiding the Isrealis was not in our interest, we would abandon them until such time as they could offer us something in our interest.

See my comment about Marxism here, I have no idea what you're exactly referring to when you use that term

Anyways I'm not sure if you are justifying Israel or what. Surely the ends don't justify the means; nationalism can be good if pursued in a nontoxic manner. Saying nationalism is always good unconditionally is pretty much a fallacy unless I've been completely misunderstanding you.. Regarding the land bullshit, they obviously want certain land much more than other land or they wouldn't have given up the entire Sinai region back to Egypt. They have ulterior motives charged by some bullshit religious ideology. They use and subvert the idea of nationalism for more sinister means. Most Jews don't give a fuck let alone have any awareness about their religion, they are just led to believe that Israel represents then and they unequivocally can do no wrong.

This is what I think when I hear 'Marxism'
Probably not exactly what you mean, nor do I think it's the best idea this specific tenet of it has it's charm. Or maybe I am confusing it with Communism, which apparently is not completely the same?

"Conspiracy Theory" is just history.

The powers do not want an informed and educated public. They want a public that believes in aliens, or voodoo or that things "just happen".

The owners are the media are the same people screwing with you "stupid fucks". They see you as stupid fucks. Because you are stupid fucks.

Its not just the jews, its any group that can rule over you. You are the cattle. The labor. The sub-human animals that exist to serve them.

They reassure themselves of their power by controlling, misdirected you. The gods screwing with the human cattle.

They tell college students that there are 22 genders and the college students scream and attack anyone who says that there are only two genders (penis and no penis).

Government means
- govenare - to control, to govern, to steer
- mente - mind
- mind control (steering the mind)

"Conspiracy Theory" is a word with emotional valence and you should not use words with emotional valence. They are used to manipulate people and distract them from reason. To control the herd through emotion rather than reason.

"The clinton emails do not show clinton is corrupt. That is a conspiracy theory."

It is name calling, a "thought terminating cliche" to terminate thought. To stop reason, rhetoric and logic.

Only human cattle fall for this, but it is the vast majority of the population.

Holy fuck are leftypol memes garbage…

nah marxisms bullshit
all marxists are morons
its why you find so many marxist sociologists and art students and so few marxists historians or physicists

Marxism and Communism are either identical or very different, depending on what is most convenient to your argument.

I find it amusing. Read 1984 properly about the obessesion over class division and what proletariat and bourgeois mean

Yea sure maybe, but can you define it and/or specify what is bad about it? I'm not defending it just looking to be informed. As I have said I've read different perspectives and I don't know what's what

well fuck… I would guess that the one doing the argument would completely disagree with that. let's see what comes up

I mean, isn't Nat Soc about Nationalistic SOCIALISM at the end of the day?

I think its a conspiracy that hillary is a good president.

Stop talking nonsense abou hillary spinning a truthful storie.

communism/marxism relies on a revolution to install a communist government
then the government becomes a dictator/king who must then lead the people through a devolution of society, the destruction of the natural order and hierarchy of things in the name of equality
after they are successful the dictator is supposed to relinquish their power
then they install an economic system where people work in tandem for the mutual benefit of one another
in theory this will create a free equal society of mutualistic benefit

in practice this creates dictators who never relinquish their power once they have it and go on violent purges of the population where everyone who is either smart enough to point out the flaws of the regime or is just generally opposed to a communist society is slaughtered
everything that was before communism or is different to communism must be deleted as differing points of view are harmful to a socialist society
all history is perverted to paint their past as evil and oppressive, traditional artworks and religious customs are destroyed or suppressed
it is the suicide of a nation in the name of equality

so this hypothetical arguing person would define either communism or marxism as whatever is most inconvenient for the point they're making? What the fuck are you even talking about?

comes up where? Your English comprehension appears inadequate.

"Conspiracy theorists" was a term coined by the CIA over allegations that JFK was assassinated by internal agents. It has since been an incredibly useful tool in shutting down conversation and investigation since then. It works by putting truths like holohoax or pedowood under the same blanket as fake moon landings, reptilian theories, flat earth and other bullshit in a successful (so far) attempt to make these truths socially unacceptable making people be afraid to investigate and feel bad for believing in them. Its really a self perpetuating thing because there are idiots everywhere that love to ramble and make themselves feel important.

Basically my point is that LARPing that all conspiracies are true is fucking retarded but as we have learned it is important to give every reasonable possibility your full attention at least until reasonable doubt has been found. this is probably a shill thread but I suppose ill explain some Holla Forums 101 while I feel like it.

When I refer to Marxists I am referencing cultural Marxists, communists, useful idiots etc. the plurality of anti nationalist forces up to but excluding libertarians. I will note that left wingers may be appeased/able to express thier political desires through the nation (nationalist socialism) but globalist ideologies must go.

As for justifying Isreal by saying nationalism is always good, that is in effect my argument. Nationalism is 'always good' subjectively for the nation in question. The manifestation of that nationalism may be detrimental in the extreme to others in relation.

I am of the ideological opinion that if all nations/ people's were nationalists and openly so as it was in the past, the world would be a more honest place and international relations would be simpler and more direct.

Each acts explicitly in the interests of thier respective nation.

In this type of world I would not begrudge the existence of Israel if they could keep thier land. The Arab nationalists would likely disagree.

Nations with expansionist self interest would soon find themselves alone and at war with thier neighbours.

This is natural order.

whoa

Potato tier post, you can't be subverted ABOUT EVIL JEWS, the rest is open season for shills, which is why you get people saying shit like "homophobia is jewish", "christianity is jewish", "degeneracy is white", "based fascist faggots" etc. you'd be surprised how far this place has been degenerated simply by relentlessly yelling something is jewish or white.

IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO POLITICS FOR REALS, LISTEN UP

I rubbed shoulders with an old lady at a Glenn Beck event when he was relevant back in 2009 and she was county chair and was looking for an apprentice. This is what she told me. It all sounds like common sense, so listen up.

Volunteer. Show incentive and hobnob with people that are in power or are on their way to be getting their name out there. Remmeber

You also have to look at least half-decent. A charismatic leader always has to look his best regardless of whether or not he campaigns.

As long as you are at least 25 years of age, and are well motivated, you have a chance. Remember, there is nothing like having boots on the ground to get what you want. If you can brandish a love for community to point the evils that ail society without revealing your power level, those are the basic building blocks.

Keep an eye out though, the love of money and the anxiety of needing to win the next election is the key factor of corruption. Once you know how to recognize it, you can avoid it.

Good luck, friend.
I've been prepping my campaign too.