The tipping point

What will be the tipping point for the race war/revolution, Holla Forums? Each day more and more whites realize what's going on, but what will iy take to push normies over the edge? I look at yurope and how their countries are being destroyed and i can't help but wonder what they're waiting for? You would expect by now whites to rise up and fight. What will it take for the race to finally revolt?

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Unemployment, deprivation, uncertainty, mistrust towards government and charismatic demagogue to unite them.

Also uncertainty where the next meal comes from… What separates order from anarchy is three warm meals.

Put a massive shock in to food supply and when niggers and whites share sane breadline you will start seeing wonders.

The things are just not bad enough. And i know how bad things can get, i was in soviet Russia when it collapsed… you Emerifats and europooors have not seen shit yet.

The white Middle Class…. Dr. William Pierce explained it

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Trump and sanders are the canary in the coal mine to tell us that both the left and right are hugely dissatisfied with the US right now. After this election real parties for political change will start to show up

Are you in the US now or still in Russia?

Breadlines, privatization and uncertain of property rights.

Privatization and mob like people "persuading" people to sell the privatized government assets for a penny.
Americans did grate buck when they looted everything with dollars back in collapse.

Putin is so popular because he is clawing back to public domain some of the shit that was jewed and restoring other shit that was driven down.

It would take and essay to say it all but the only thing that kept order was the fact that people used to work for nothing but promises and food… so the electricity kept going, food came in and some semblance of public order got saved. Similar "orderly" government shutdown is impossible in America because no one will for for free and everything will be paralyzed the instant no one thinks the dollar you try to give them is worth a damn.

This is what make Russia unique and fucking dangerous in times of war.

If USA had similar meltdown, it would disintegrate in to state nations that would hate the deficit states with vehemence.

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I think that's all we're really waiting for; the politicians of any of these countries to fuck up and condemn the country's citizens. The real riots begin when politicians get decapitated in the streets.

I know. Things just have to get worse for now. Europe is still in shock but they're starting to wake up. Like said, shit won't get real until everyday life becomes a survival. That's when people enter survival mode. That's the tipping point.

economic crisis of a global magnitude is the premise, no matter if there are side-happenings or not.

Why? Because if economy isn't in the gutter, the negative consequences of standard happenings only concern 'lower citizens', which usually aren't into politics or educated how to mobilize themselves. But with an economic crisis, the middle class and more wealthy people are affected, too, which means that the probability of mobilizing masses becomes exponentially higher.

Other than that, no one gives a shit if a mudslime blows up himself in a train station (wealthy people don't use trains) or political banter happens (political decisions don't affect them).

It was always this way. But nowadays it's more important than ever to have an economic crisis to achieve anything because over time western societies lost the ability to mobilize themselves due to different groups of interest and wealth-gaps.

No one will do anything for free*

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Here in the US we are already on the verge, tempers are on the rise, government and popular media as a whole cannot be trusted.
Most normies who are voting Trump, have been redpilled to a degree already. People will not acknowledge revolt/revolution in public, but it went from a murmur to a gentle hum over the last month.
Waiting and trying to convince others to not vote Hillary. Ready if the time comes however.

Most of what says is very true, even in the US a fair few of us are waiting in lines for food. There was that issue in Sweden? Girl was raped by 5 migrants? Believe the internet and cell access in the area was cut if I am right? It seems Europe might have a lot more going on beneath the surface. Hillary might not be the only extremely corrupt politician.

We are practically in the same boat as you all were back then. We know how to help each other in times of hardship since we know our money has no value already, but our government doesn't need an "Orderly" shutdown. As sad as it is, we have to start roughly from the beginning again.

We live in perpetual debt, all due to our govt. who want us to work so we can pay off our the govt debt. Our money has no value, as it all goes to the govt and private companies at the end of the day.

What i am saying is that Russia was essentially a barter/trust economy few years after the collapse before it all normalized.

It was able to maintain most of its sovereignty regardless of that.

US of A in similar situation would disintegrate in to states, where rich states would hate poor states and vice versa. You are looking in to potential situation where poor states would try to wreck the heavy industry of the rich states just out of spite and fear of being delegated as a raw material banana states. The oil states would be scared shittles of commieformia tyrannizing them and treating them like shit. Breadbasket states would be scared shitless of everyone who depend on them and of the oil-sates who fuel them. It could get really fucking ugly.

America did that to Russia back in the collapse, bought everything they could and took if away to fuck Russians industry. Why would America act any different when they view the neighbor state as potential competitor and not ally?

I am so ready for CSA2: Electric Boogaloo.

We don't know what will set people over the edge. There is an argument nothing will, but rather collapse will cause people to act in desperate measures.

The other historical theory I'd have, was that a man leads this revolution, such as Caesar. But, the average normie is far, far from revolt.

There is a culture built around decay. Degenerate pop, parasitic children, hipsters, trendy shitty tech apps, etc, etc. These aren't signs of real progress but of unemployment.

I'd venture to guess till the power turns off and the water stops, that's when people realize it's a SHTF situation and panic. But America has great infrastructure.

Another one, would be a racial attack which causes a provocation. The next Civil War on the surface (if we lose), will be made to be about niggers once again in the textbook.

John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry, was in 1859 of October. A year before the civil war started. A raid, that was intended to start off the civil war.

The attack in Houston on police was our version of that. That means on our timeline, we are one year away from civil war. It will be along ethnic and racial lines.

I would deem something shitty happens and a black man or several get gunned down. In retaliation, a mass slaughter of defenseless whites happens in that city by BLM. As a result, the media and federal government do not report it or talk about it.

Thus, some whites react. Blacks react. So on and so on until these little skirmishes boil over into real conflict caused by the Federal Debt tipping over into "un-repayable territory."

Estimates have ranged that I've heard, place the civil war at 2020 but on the last one's timeline, we are one year away. Personally, I feel we will never see one as normies will never revolt.

The reason Europeans aren't fighting back is because they still have all luxuries afforded to them in the West. As long as they keep their heads down and do their job they can have their fine cuisine, porn on demand, and an endless stream of entertainment.

On top of that the very luxuries just listed are what have been used to destroy native European communities and break up their sense of cultural/racial identity. Only when a real economic collapse hits, and tribalism becomes a necessity for survival, will Europeans be forced to band together by race and nationality.

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By the previous civil war timeline, we are expecting conflict around February but starting in January. That would mean the first skirmishes and standoffs would begin on the ascendancy of the next President.

Meaning, that neither side will accept to lose and that will spark off the civil war.

Well, lads, don't let them write that the civil war was about nigger rights. The last civil war, was heavily funded by the Jewish bankers then they cut off funding to the CSA, Russia backed the North because at the time France and England wanted a divided America.

It was a mixed basket but Russia essentially prevented France and England rescuing the CSA (ironic) and the defeat of Antietam, or CSA losses. So, what we're seeing is a rising tide of Right-side resentment with the Jews secretly and overtly funding the left-side.

I promise you, the "alt-right" as it's called is getting funding too. Remember also, Lincoln vastly, vastly expanded the powers of the Presidency during the Civil War, prior it was a statesman like position, after, it became a position that commanded the Government.

Also, CSA industry and population was not on their side. What was needed was heavy, heavy guerrilla warfare, in and out of Northern territory to destroy infrastructure, savagely kill, murder, rape and destroy stockpiles, as well as heavy defensive positioning to cause mass casualties to the North while Southern industry picked up.

So, if we parallel the coming Civil War with the last; we will have a lack of industry and will have to have very much self-made weaponry, like the Syrian rebels, however we will have better leadership, braver men and a much higher conscription rate. We will also have a strong, strong initial advantage which must be seized upon right away.

Lastly, our war will be one of attrition with disease being rampant and most men likely dying not on the battlefield but of supply lines being cut. Therefore, decentralized supply lines and particular attention must be provided to logistics of everything. Also, there will very likely be a no-fly zone and a blockade, and that means a lot of guerrilla warfare.

If you want to win, expect to do some horrific things.

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I honestly don't know. I feel only an economic collapse will change things - this isn't the old America where people put values above money. If economy collapse doesn't happen expect things to get worse overtime - more hours at wok, lowerwages, more chemicals in everyday products, more cities and people clustered together, higher taxes, so on and so on.

I have no problems with that.

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Its important you put a distinction between the public reason for war and the private.

In the first civil war the public reason was slavery shit, but the real reasons were states rights, taxes, and industry.

The northern factories could not compete with southern slave labor, and the upper class south was an independent threat to labor in England and the rest of Europe who had already freed the slaves.

It was all about money. They did not want the south undercutting their prices with slave labor.

So when someone says "the civil war was about slavery" yes, but only indirectly.

Pics related are coming soon, when the Saxon finally wakes.

But I always see and hear people say that war/civil war/unrest never comes until people are going hungry, we didn't see the former Soviet Union descend into utter anarchy, when it collapsed, especially as hard hit as Russia was simply incredible. Though that could be because the Soviets instilled obedience and those nations were already more or less "independent" to a large extent, who knows an Eastern European user can elaborate on that who is older who lived through it or heard stories.

But I always think back to the American Civil War, nobody back then was starving or wanting for anything, they were just having their rights absolutely trampled on, almost everybody back then was a farmer in the 1840-1860s. But it was slow in coming until the pot "boiled over" and the South finally started to say enough is enough then formed their own nation. I think it has already started, its just been a slow boil for a few years, and Trump is accelerating it, thankfully.

Greece, you had riots and not much happened, nobody was starving nor were they having their "things" taken from them, like phones, TVs and whatnot, they just had to cut back extremely hard. The governments of Europe stepped in to pour more money into the system, but it never really hit as hard as it could have, and you're seeing Golden Dawn because of that.

I think we are FINALLY starting to see the Clash of Civilizations play out in Europe and the USA that Samuel Huntington wrote about in his article of the same name, if you haven't read it, I highly suggest that you do.

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Heil'd, only Trump can fix this mess the kikes and boomer faggots made for us.

I tend to agree with you user, things are getting to the point where everybody is mad at the other side.

How do you explain places like Venezuela? Apparently the only meals they are getting are stray dogs and cats they find in the streets.

Semi related to what you're getting at, they are going for rats in Zimbabwe nowadays.

California's wealth is dependent on copyright. Competing states would just stop enforcing intellectual property protections for California and suddenly California cannot generate wealth. Furthermore I doubt it would break down into state vs state. It would most likely be regions or blocks of states vs other regions or blocks. I'm thinking the South, Appalachia, Midwest, Left Coast, North-East (Yankeedom) and then the Far West. Similar to this map.

It would break down into these regions for Ethnic and Cultural reasons.

Nope.

Jews take New England
Niggers take the South
Whites take Northwest Front
Mexicans take Southwest

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When you start seeing Russian Weapon drops hitting the shores of the USA in the form of AK74's, RPG's, grenades and food and clothing, you know we are SOUNDLY in CW.

An Economic collapse is likely NO MATTER WHAT.
War with Russia and Proxy is likely but not guaranteed.
US involvement in Yemen is now a guarantee.
A Hillary Victory and her crack down on rights is a CW guarantee.
A solar burst that knocks out all electrics on the planet…this cannot be calculated.
A man made EMP being deployed in the War and Proxy wars..is LIKELY. This = CW.
USA is more fractured than ever. Any spark could upend the US apple cart. Multiculturalism was a massive failure.

You still have time to get what you need. Several years of food, clothing, medical and ammunition would be suggested. You will need this meme prepper shit because the preppers weren't to crazy sounding after all.

This post is completely dissconected larping of the highest order

Prepping would only work if everyone was a libertarian.

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Prepping would only be a must in a nuclear scenario if you live inside a blast zone, near a city or live in an area reliant on the system. Anyone who lives rural does NOT need to prep in any sense of the word. If you have guns and ammo, you're good. If you have some canned food you're good. If you live near a river lake, or somewhere that rains a lot you're good.

Prepping is ONLY for people dwelling in large population centers. Even then surviving is HIGHLY unlikely in any case, regardless of how prepared you are (unless you own a nuclear vault that locks on the inside with enough food to last a lifetime, or enough anti-radiation medication/protection to leave and start life anew in a safe zone.

I think about this all the time, how do we know f9r sure when the race war has started, don't get me wrong, I want to spray Jew and nigget brains out and enjoy every second of it, but if I'm the only goy doing it it's game over.

Race war when? Can't we just run off this clown mask trend and use halloween as a purge night? How will they be able to track yhe sales of all the clown masks sold this year?

This is the most likely scenario in a civil race war.

Though the South and Southern California would be spilling the most blood.

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I'm really hating this process because not only am I unable to earn a decent living anymore but my genetic illness is becoming life threatening. Every day I'm watching shit get worse and worrying about my family.

Perhaps when war breaks out there will be greater availability of transplant organs, but that doesn't help if hospitals are full of emergencies.

Article today that might answer OP's question.

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If you want to describe Venezuela as a paragon of order then i cant imagine what you think is chaos

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i think you are on the right track with this thread.. you just need to know who the real enemy is.. its not necessarily a race war. its class warfare. if you want to win the idea has to be right.

strategically, only the top n% need to be taken out to really straighten shit up and restore by the people for the people under God and justice for all equally.

This year's Oxfam Report says 62 people at the top have more wealth than 3.6 billion other people combined. It's surreal. oxfam.org
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those folks and their surrogates. that would resolve all of our problems very quickly.
they are probably scattered across the world, not in the US. :(

off topic but looking for the name of a german electronic group thats been posted here in the last week. gestalt maybe was in the title… help an user out pls

nonprofit banking.. dollar of work for dollar issued. no insurance. that would kill them!

This should be renamed the white middle class boomers tbh

Pardon the shit article, I'm on mobile. google
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They can't be sitting there thinking it's a good idea to hoard all that. They've decided not to grow the economy because climate change? Not too many of these people are in the energy sector, oddly.

It will likely never happen. People are too comfortable to do anything at this point. Even if something did go down, any news regarding an uprising would be blacklisted immediately, isolating it to one incident

shit will hit the fan far sooner than that.

if anything because niggers are usually fed and kept with the natives' taxes…

Coastlines are still pretty useful things to have.

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Whoever made that map needs to glance at an actual map of North America

Hello there my wizard friend I predict the race war will happen in 1997 or 2001 at the latest.

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When muslim population hits ≈ 25% of population. Western Europe and Russia is lost, middle Europe propably too.

Russian Muslims are not same pop as the refugee from sub Saharan Africa, idort.

Russia is federation and it has some of the 100% Muslim countries in it. Russia is more than capable of dealing with Muslim problem because it has been doing just that since its very inception.
Plus, the Russian Muslims hate the African Muslims just as much if not more.
Want a case study? Pacification of Chechnya.

No. Russia still has a problem with Islamic Insurgency in the Caucasus. Didn't you hear about the beheading of Aytemir Salimgereev Айтемир Салимгереев in his own house in Dagestan? Or how about the bomb blast in Jemikent that killed two policemen? archive.is/Vsx3s

Do you seriously think that Russia has done much pacification since they opened that gaudy mosque in Moscow to appease the Tatar Muslims living there? You need to lurk more faggot.

As a half Tatar and a ex soviet, i think i might know my shit.

There will never be a tipping point. Whites have been placated and cucked by thirty years of drip feed propaganda. Just look at Sweden.
Our only hope is this election forces all sides to reveal their hands and gives others the confidence to rebel against their ZOG.

There will be a tipping point. If it doesn't happen for cultural reasons now, it will still happen due to economic reasons later on. We have a system where a parasitic class of mudskins is leeching off the whites that hold society up. But the mudskin parasite keeps growing larger and the white guy holding it up keeps shrinking. Eventually it will get so drastic that the system can no longer sustain itself.

This would lead to war or some other sort of revolution, but I fear that if we let things go that far - to the point where we're already a minority - then it will be too late to fix

It's actually suprising how the USSR post-collapse didn't balkanize further than what it did and that the Russian Federation stayed so big. You're right about the US being torn apart and balkanizing in fractions but I doubt you'd have a lot of wars going between each parts, unless there was some outside influence which I do expect in the case of an American collapse, thanks to all the bullshit their government pulled all over the world. They only have allies of convenience at this point, no real lasting allies anymore.

Clearly you don't, because then you'd understand that the Islamic insurgency is only going to get worse for Russia in the Caucasus, especially since he invaded what is considered sacred Islamic land in order to aid and enemy to Islam (with regards the insurgents view the matter). Why else has Russia maintained a police and military presence in the Caucasus if things were settled down? If Putin does pull Moscow's national guard in the region, it's only going to allow the Islamists to further recruit and gather supplies easier. If he stays, well, that only proves my point, not yours.
I still like the way Russia's military and police has been reformed, especailly their national guarddid they get rid of the SOBR unit of their police?

more likely the Jewish power will become even more entrenched as global institutions like the IMF gobble everything up.

It would have progressed even further, Russia was just able to keep the people in the Caucasus weak enough as to where they could'nt effectively BTFO a Moscow presence after the second chechen war.
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You mean jewish/saudi backed shenanigans?

Because last time there was problems in Chechnya, they looked who bought the new cars (3 new Mercedeses.), where did he get the money for the new car, and VOLA, Saudi funded terrorist ring was exposed. Most of the "insurgents" are poor and stupid imported "dissidents".

Don't come here lecturing me ablaut how Muslims that were part of Russia over 200 years feel, faggot.
Do some want independence? Yes? Do some hate Russia? Yes. But they are in minority and without outside funding, completely toothless.
And the majority, if they have to chose Russia or "independence" in the form of being Americo-Jewish puppet states guess which one they chose?

when the Police don't show up, when you keep hearing gun shots, and when mobs are roaming around.

You can kill niggers and jews with total freedom.