Elric de Melniboné Comics - White Long Hair is Cool Edition

Well for one there's the whole Geralt ripping off Elric thing. They've gone precious little in common beyond the nickname and the mutagens to live shit. But Geralt doesn't bath in a pool of blood from cultists. The there's their objectives being completely different. Geralt wants to hunt monsters because it's what he does. Elric just wants to rule his edgelord kingdom of darkness without passing out every 5 minutes.

Moving on, I don't think this series is anywhere near as good as this guy think it is. It's okay but it's just a edgy grimdark confusing mess. Being grimdark is one thing but there being no reason for it beyond just "it looks cool" is just plain bad writing. There's no rhyme or reason to most of the customs and acts of these people. They're just evil conquerors. That's dull. Where's the world building? Where's the fun beyond the fighting? Where's the reason to give a shit about Elric if he's just an edgy sickly albino?

Overhyped bullshit by this guy in the video. It's a perfect example of doing hardcore balls to the wall grimdark metal shit all wrong.

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Well, he does bring up the solid argument that when Elric was first written, he was a exiled mercenary much like Geralt who traveled the land and his backstory as the former emperor of an edgy kingdom was only introduced in a prequel. Elric's waifu is also similar to Yennefer too.

I do think its unfair to shit on Geralt for being similar to Elric since the Witcher is pretty great imho. I imagine Razor is salty because Elric never got much mainstream media attention while an relatively obscure book series from Poland with some similarities manages to become a smash hit after getting a PC game.

Witcher's got okay story telling but fucking clunky ass gameplay. This shit's also way fucking edgier than anything in Witcher 3. Jesus.

There was also Slaine's old enemy Elfric.
Elric is metal as fuck, Hawkwind did a concept album on him. Listen to this while reading for maximum rocket sauce.
"Needlegun" is actually about Elrics' 20th century reincarnation, Jerry Cornelius.
Does anyone have Jerry's comics? Despite having his own movie, and having met both the Sex Pistols and Doctor Who, Jerry never caught on like Elric.
Isn't there an Elric comic by Walt Simonson?

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Thank you user, it was cool!

Thanks for the story time, I missed the last thread it was posted in, and when I went to check ReadComics, all they had was some weird crossover series with a fanfiction-tier OC and hamfisted social commentary from a self-proclaimed "social justice warrior" author.

So the old Elric graphic novel we storytimed before picks up where this left off?

Lol, I see Elric always had issues with impulse control and poor decision-making abilities.

Hey, the elf prince from Hellboy 2 was another Elric ripoff, wasn't he?

This actually looks pretty cool. Can't wait to read it later

He was pale and evil but that's where it ends. His sword didn't thirst for blood, Elric didn't have a twin sister that shared his pain, Prince Nuada didn't need mutagens/blood rituals to survive, he didn't have a nickname like 'White Wolf', Elric didn't have a troll companion, etc.

Geralt is a much closer candidate for a ripoff than Nuada is.

Pretty much. He the sameway when it comes to batman becoming more popular than the shadow.

that's not necessarily a bad thing
Can you imagine the epic of Elric made movie directed by George Lucas?

Interestingly enough, Razorfist appears to have only found out about Elric while preparing Witcher 2 review. He also conveniently ignores the fact that Elric started out as almost 1:1 ripoff of Kullervo from Finnish folk tales.

Similarities are superficial. They have little in common aside from being pale, having white hair, dabbling in magic, and being skilled swordsmen. Just like in the case of Witcher, Griffith and many other fantasy characters.

Where do you think you are, faggot?

Are you telling me there are two protagonists in fictional media who have vaguely similar traits in two entirely different stories? Holy fuck, Razorfist, thank you for this enlightening revelation you genius man. Disregard that the two of them have wildly different motivations and subtle character traits. His edgy faggot niche character is so much better.

Razorfist's a goddamn hipster faggot, it's always been the case. If there's a popular thing that is vaguely similar to another thing that's not as popular, Razor's there, calling it the greatest thing since sliced fuckin' bread.

Razorfist has goddamn shit taste in everything that isn't Daredevil or metal bands, that's all he should ever talk about because whenever he opens his mouth to commentate on anything else it's embarrassing at best.

Didn't stan lee admited he wanted Daredevil to be the BATMAN OF THE MARVEL universe? He just gave him a disability as a superpower just to stand out from Batman? By that logic shouldn't Daredevil be shit on too? Hell the x-men was a rip off of doompatrol to begin with.

It's not a matter of who came first with Razorfag, it's a matter of who's more popular.

speaking of elric ripoffs
we really need more of these

ah fug, wrong version

It's like a fusion of Raiden and Elric with a dash of a paladin. I like it.

Have you checked your nearest 99 cents store?

what?

thanks for the story time OP
was breddy good, although this bizarre shift in character in the 3rd page through me for a loop

is there a page missing between 3 and 4 here

That is because apparently they changed artists halfway through or some shit.

I remember razorfist posting some archive on his twitter showing that Bill Finger wrote the first Batman story based off of a Shadow story or something.

So, is the plot of Crimson Spell, a "BL" (lol, it's straight-up porn that accidentally developed a plot around volume 3) manga I like, a ripoff of Elric, or a ripoff of something that ripped off Elric?

He also looks like that super edgy Nazi vampire everybody here likes.

Elfric was metal as fuck, even if no-one could quite work out how to draw him.

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Woah guys

Plagiarism

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Requiem Vampire Knight? I don't recall that many people loving him.

This guy is such a fucking faggot. He has to use such an extreme example of obviously being a rip-off to prove his point. Fucking clearly 'Bonan the Barbarian from Chimeria' would have more than a superficial similarity. If Geralt was named 'Gerlic' and did shit like bathe in blood and had more than a passing fucking resemblance, he'd have a point.
There's other faggots in the comments trying to say that basically everything ripped off this comic. It's so unknown that there's no way that it's true. Fantasies take inspiration from each other all the time, but when you're saying everything from the Witcher to Game of Thrones ripped off the series, you're full of shit.

Elric isn't exactly unknown or obscure, the series of novels is considered one of the big fantasy franchises.

Razorfist gets fucking more and more obnoxious by the day, so drunk of his own smug sense of mental superiority that he's learned how to subsist off of his own farts.

I don't doubt that the man who wrote The Witcher probably took some inspiration from Elric, but it's a far cry from his example, and it's most certainly not plagiarism. Geralt and Elric are only identical, vaguely, in appearance and powers. And even then, fantasy is fucking crawling with fair haired magical swordsmen. Personality and motivation wise the two protagonists share very little in common. Apparently there's some similarities in regards to the conjunction of spheres, but I'm doubtful it's anything bordering on plagiarism. If that were the case we'd be suing ever faggot who ever had elves like trees or dwarves like stone.

Wakfu and Elder Scrolls both have universes that are basically dreamstates that can be altered by the people who inhabit them with thought. I'd hardly consider Wakfu a fucking ripoff.

I really wish people would stop taking this guy seriously. I give him the benefit of the doubt on metal music because it's not my jam, but fucking hell, whenever he sticks his fetid dick into another medium it always comes away reeking of shit and retardation.

If you think his arguments for plagiarism are shit, just wait and see his defense of Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
I had to turn off the vid after hearing that shit.

Even a guy like me who never played the game could tell he was reaching.

I think he honestly suffers the same sort of thing that Dobson does. Where he attributes any detractor as some guy out to get him.

Jesus fuck, now I'm going to have to watch that shit. Razorfist has arguably some of the worst taste in videogames I've ever seen, so it's no surprise to me that his argument is infantile and shit.

He's always struck me as an adult man who is perpetually stuck in that edgy thirteen year old phase that a lot of kids go through. You know the one.

It's that same sort of tween angst where he only likes the stuff that isn't mainstream, oh, you like this thing? Well I like this thing instead because it's so much smarter than your thing, and older, and edgier.

Couple that with his internet claim to fame is him just basically casting stones at e-celebs that nobody likes, and he's essentially built his entire person on being an asshole who picks fights with people who he feels are intellectually inferior to himself. So if somebody has a disagreement with his infallible statements, that means they're on the same level as somebody like Moviebob.

He's just complete shit in almost every way, and I'm sick to death of people posting him around like he's got anything of value to say whatsoever.

Even if you point out the characters started out similarly, they developed in drastically different manners. Elric and Geralt are not the same character once you break surface level.

If we try to go by his logic, then the ending to Mass Effect 3 was fulfilling because the Reapers are defeated no matter which ending you pick. Nevermind that Shepard's survival is uncertain, the war's aftermath left the galaxy in a bleak future and Bioware lied in every conceivable way and fucked gamers over with that.

There's also the comparison between Yen and Elric's main squeeze, that being that they're both brunettes who do magic.

Again, surface level, he's reaching like a motherfucker here and it's hilarious that he still feels like he has any footing to stand on at all.

That's what I've been saying. There's little to nothing connecting them as similar beyond an incredibly based level.

Also fuck Bioware. Andromeda looks shittier and shittier every day.

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Highlighted because Geralt doesn't have a degenerative curse. He was mutated to the state he's at and he can augment his body with potions and such to enhance his abilities.

afaik, in all of the Witcher media I've taken in, he never needs to keep his mouth affixed to a potion to survive.

I like Mankind Divided, but it's hard to argue the game wasn't cut up or unfinished.

Like, hooray, we stopped the terrorist who was being controlled by the Illuminati, who are still operating! Day is saved!

Like, Adam even admits at the end of the game he hasn't really done anything to the big bads pulling the strings. There's also the matter of the guy leading the group Alex is with, who was just kinda dropped from the plot.

He IS right, however, that Mankind Divided's side-quest design is good.

Geralt is not an albino, he has bleached hair.
Geralt is not cursed. Geralt only uses easiest magic tricks.
Lol.

Further, plagiarism is a very serious accusation, and he's using ancillary character appearances as evidence of Sapkowski's guilt, which frankly wouldn't fly in court, nor would it be enough. All the things he uses as examples can be found in many other works, so he better be ready to put a lot of fantasy writers under the same scrutiny.

(Of course, that would mean 'Fist would have to concede this is just a roundabout way for him to shit on both the books and the games, two POPULAR things.)

In a legal setting, you'd need HARD evidence he was stealing from Moorcock and passing it off as his own. He's seemingly teasing that's what he's done in early parts of The Witcher books, but he's being so damn vague about it that no one can even investigate if he's just full of hot air. Like dude, if you've got hard evidence of someone committing a crime, how about you SHOW people instead of this dog and pony show?

The better is the fact that Sapkovsky used EVERYTHING from fairytales(not only slavic) and slavic folklore.
But because protagonists had white hair he stole everything from Elric! Not only white hair, but both had love interest!

Fairytale+slight twist. This is everything that happen in early witcher stories.

No Geralt isn't

No Geralt doesn't.

Having the surname 'of X' is not something unique to Elric nor is it something that warrants the claim of plagiarism. It's in a shit ton of stories, and has a deep history of being rooted into numerous European cultures.

Arguable, I suppose, that's about the only ground he has to stand on.

Again, Geralt has no curse that kills him, he uses herbalism to stay alive because it boosts his abilities in combat against monsters.

Elric may have come first, but there are hundreds of characters just like that in fiction the world over. Do Jedis count as ripoffs of Elric because they use swords and magic? That's also discounting Geralt's style of swordplay being heavily based around dance, which is pretty unique as far as combat goes.

So you can't have a fantasy setting steeped in political intrigue or moral relativism without it being a ripoff of Elric?

It's all grasping at straws. Fantasy tropes are all steeped in familiar roots, none of which originate from Elric. This is also discounting the fact that The Witcher's use of slavic folklore and fairy tales form the world over is an element almost wholly unique to Sapkovsky's work.

I'm not arguing that there wasn't some possible inspiration, but for an accusation such as plagiarism you'd need much harder evidence than 'these characters look alike' for it to be taken seriously, let alone in regards to a court of law.

Oh, also

Of course he hasn't, Razorfist, Sapkowski doesn't give a fuck about some faggot youtuber saying his shit's stolen, you're not that important Fist, get over yourself.

The heart of this issue here is just Fist attempting to drum up some controversy for 'dem views. He hasn't had anything to rail on for a while, with no Moviebob's to yell at or fights to pick with other e-celebs, he's running the risk of falling out of relevancy, especially since every time he actually talks about videogames or movies his abhorrent shit taste throws all of his other videos into question.

Now he's got about two/three more videos worth of content to make where he can yell at the camera about how shit The Witcher is, about the man who wrote the books, and maybe even get a youtuber or two to give him some shit so he can pick a fight.

Dunning-kruger effect in full force.

Is this edgelord autistic? DC Were doing multiverse storylines sense the 50s! Science fiction storylines were doing multiverse long before DC.

Are you saying that some fantasy book series written in the 60s didn't invent every fantasy trope?

I think he's just a faggot.

Hard to believe, but yes.

I think he is not a faggot but someone similar to young kid who never read any books and it was his 1st book. So in a few years, if he reads more books, he might become a real man. Its not like he is wrong because he is a faggot, but only because he is ignorant. But he is like 25-30 eyars old and he still ignorant. Chances for him to improve are slim.

Additionally, Geralt does not fit the description identically; he has cat eyes, is beaten up and scarred instead of beautiful, very far from being frail, carries two non-magical swords, never wears armor, never commanded anyone, doesn't summon anything ever, does not make pacts with demons, never faces deities, has no real home, and is clearly not a member of royalty. Geralt is also a sword fighter first and (limited) magic user second, while Elric is the opposite. Also, unlike Elric, Geralt possesses only one magical artifact - his medallion, which warns him of magic and allows to use magical signs. It is nothing compared to Elric's ring, amulet, and other magical artifacts.

When it comes to personality, Geralt if far more mature and better adjusted than Elric. Geralt was an idealist that wanted to help people, but grew jaded and somewhat cynical over the years. He is not as egoistical and ruthless as Elric, he could not be considered mentally ill, is not an addict, and does not try to change the world or anything like that. Elric is also quite naive and temperamental, while Geralt is stoic until he gets pushed far enough.

As to the plot of various stories, I do not recall ones where Elric unknowingly becomes master of a genie and wastes his wishes, attempts to fight fish-men, but realizes that is outmatched and says 'fuck it, I'm out of here,' or spends a wizard party trying to avoid being dragged into wizards' various political schemes. Political intrigue in Elrics' stories is mostly contained to people attacking his kingdom and intrigues to dethrone him. In Witcher it is mostly about magic users and emperors trying to amass power via espionage, warfare, backroom deals, and magic. Geralt just stumbles into the intrigues and is a cog in the political machine, while Elric is at the center of events for the most part.

Love interest is the only other obvious similarity, but again, argument falls apart once you barely get past the surface. Yennefer is not related to Geralt, rarely helps him, is kind of a cunt that hates Geralt initially, and neither one has any idea where their relationship is going and are not considering marriage.

Moorcock didn't pursue the lawsuit for a reason, and he isn't afraid to take people to court.

It sure seems that way. Especially since Razor Fist gets very evasive when asked to give more substance to his claims, and just says that he will make a video about that down the line.

Moorcock and his fanboys would say otherwise. Everyone is either ripping off Moorcock 1:1 and owes him money and recognition, or is a reactionary Tolkien-faggot. They seem oddly ignorant of the fact that Moorcock's stories borrow wholesale from earlier pulp fantasy and mythology.

So basically even his claim that the characters look similar is flimsy as fuck. I'll admit, I know next to nothing about Elric's lore or story itself, but from everything I've heard/seen from a brief glance around the internet, the similarities between the two are practically null.

Honestly, Geralt seems like more of a Solomon Kane type than an Elric type.

Leather armor is still armor.
He does with lady of the lake and Ciri is basically goddess of setting. And wild hunt is technically a mythological shit.

Leather armor is still armor, but hardly identical to the over the top metal and spikes that Elric wears. It's light, functional, and looks very different.

The Lady of the Lake is a mythical being from folklore who doesn't necessarily fit the term of God. Even then, many fictional universes have characters who come face to face with Godlike entities. Again, this is not plagiarism, it's a common fantasy trope, Elric certainly didn't invent it and Geralt's interaction with those entities seems far removed from Elric's.

Ciri is hardly godlike, she takes protagonist center as the books go on for the most part and she's very fallible and far from omnipotent. She can hop universes and do weird mystic shit with her blood, but calling her the goddess of the setting is a bit of a stretch.

An addendum to the armor thing, I know it's not necessarily that over the top, but my point is that it's depicted as more heavy set and high fantasy.

more like placebo armor

Sorry, I was thinking about the books. In them, Geralt sticks with leather jacket, gloves, and boots. Proper armor would slow him down, not allowing to take full advantage of inhuman speed that was a result of mutations and training.

Games did add more high fantasy elements to the series. In addition to Lady of the Lake, Dagon makes an appearance too. In addition to actual leather armor, game Geralts also uses runes and enchanted swords. Another element that bring games closer to Moorcock's books is that signs can be almost used as a sword substitute. In books they are just for utility and an extra edge in combat.

And while Ciri is not a godess, but just a human with a some unique abilities. People don't worship her, but instead want to use her as a tool in politics. She is likely capable of giving birth to an almost godlike entity, but only if she conceives with the right candidate.

There are probably even more differences that I forgot about over time. Elric of Melnibone books were my gateway to written fantasy, but last time I got through almost all of them was years ago as a teenager.

sauce?

Boiled leather armour is a bit tougher than a biker jacket. Ever try cutting through a saddle?

ever try wearing a saddle as armor?

Berserk

thanks user.

Here's the link to an article basically breaking down the plagiarism: dialbforblog.com/archives/391/

I've heard the broad strokes of this story before (I believe it's mentioned in Gerard Jones' 'Men of Tomorrow' book?), but it's still pretty funny/sad. This is the late Arnold Drake's recollection, as recently posted on Mark Evanier's website:

"Bob had gotten to the point where he never drew anything. Never drew anything on the Batman comics, anyway. [Sheldon] Moldoff was ghosting them all and when he didn't, someone else did. The only thing I think Bob ever drew was when we'd be out somewhere, in a restaurant or someplace, and a pretty girl would come over to him and say, 'Are you really the man who draws Batman?' Then he could whip out a little sketch for her, a big sketch if she was wearing something low-cut and would bend over to watch him draw.

One day I'm over at his house to discuss this newspaper strip idea we had and he's talking about who we might get to draw it. I was going to write it and we were going to get someone else to draw it. I'm not sure what Bob was going to do on it except sign his name. I said to him, 'Bob, isn't it disappointing to you that you don't draw any more? You were once such a great artist.' He wasn't but you had to talk to Bob that way.

He said, 'Oh, no. Let me show you something.' He took me into a little room in his house. It was his studio. I didn't even know he still had a studio. It was all set up with easels and things and there were paintings, paintings of clowns. You know the kind. Like the ones Red Skelton used to do. Just these insipid portraits of clowns, all signed very large, 'Bob Kane.' He was so proud of them. He said, 'These are the paintings that are going to make me in the world of art. Batman was a big deal in one world and these paintings will soon be in every gallery in the world.' He thought the Louvre was going to take down the Mona Lisa to put up his clown paintings. I didn't have the heart to tell him.

So a few months later, I'm up at DC and I ran into Eddie Herron. Eddie was another writer up there and we got to talking and Bob's name came up. Eddie said, 'Did you hear? Bob's getting sued by one of his ghost artists.'

I said, 'How is that possible? Shelly Moldoff's suing Bob? But they had a clear deal. Shelly knew he wasn't going to get credit or anything…'

Eddie said, 'No, not Shelly.' Bob was being sued by the person who'd painted the clowns for him…"

Ever try wearing my ass as a hat?

Oh boooy I really hate this kind of love interest. How is Cymoril though? Is she any better?

Batman and Daredevil are only similar in that their stories are darker and kinda deals with the mafia. Otherwise it's completely different.

If Bonan the Barbarian have a completely different personallity than Conan and goes on completely different types of adventures and is set on a completely different time period, it wouldn't be plagiarism, even if the names, appearance and origins are quite similar.

By the same logic he's using, Warcraft is a direct plagiarism from Warhammer.

And Warhammer on the same note is direct plagiarism from Tolkien.

The problem with his "Bonan the Barbarian"analogy is that nobody would actually create a character like this, unless if it is supposed to be a parody. Razorcuck is using a strawman to validate his position.

In his let's play. Razorfist said warhammer stole all there lore from mooorcock. What worse its hypocritical of a Anti-SJW e-celeb to go after Alan Moore for hypocrisy yet give micheal Moorcock a free pass. Micheal moorcock is a Marxist anarchist proto-SJW that demonized H.P lovecraft for racism and sexism and xenophobia. he wrote Elric to combat the heroic myth that of people doing good for the shake of doing good. I just think He seems to be Triggered by the Christian influenced works of C.S Lewis and j.r.r tolkien.

Damn. I use to look up the Andy mcnab as a kid. Now I found as a fraud that lied about his military service. I don't how people give Cris Kyle shit yet give Andy Mcnab a free pass. Cris Kyle at least has a confirm military record and has lots of confirmed kills.

You'd be surprised.

Holy shitbiscuits, this faggot thinks taking inspiration is outright stealing. Warhammer only took one aspect from the Order vs Chaos and added their own spin on it, the Gods of Chaos are nothing like Lords of Chaos in Elric. Fuck this fag. I hope he says Game of Thrones is a Dune ripoff.

Yeah heroic Barbarian characters were kinda everywhere way back when.

So the transformation into Moorcock fanboy is complete, and Razofist is now as much of a drama queen as Moorecock. I bet he frequents multiverse fora (assuming they are still up) and sucks Moorcocks dick there. Now it's just a matter of time, before we see Razorfist blasting Tolkien, C. S. Lewis, Lovecraft and and any other fantasy and scifi authors that get more recognition that Moorcock.

I don't even get it. It's one thing if Moorcock is influential, but why's the dude have this obsessive and obnoxious fanbase.

I don't see Tolkien fans go around saying everything in the fantasy genre is plagiarizing. I'm sure those people exist, but they aren't nearly as loud of 'Fist and his jerk-off'ry of Elric.

Well, Elric is tortured, temperamental, hedonistic, powerful, edgy, and borders on being a Mary Sue in earlier stories. He is almost tailor made to appeal to edgy teenagers. Most of them grow up and move on to better books, but some don't. Razorfist is a hipster with mentality of a teen, so he latched onto Elric.

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with liking Moorcock's books, but obsessing with the character and shitting on everything else is just silly.

I am fairly certain that at one point Tolkien had an positively cancerous normalfag fanbase at the height of is popularity, but the reason you don't see that its because the Hobbit franchise murdered it. Seriously, those movies are about as ill-regarded as the Star Wars prequels and you can generally see why when they came and went with nearly nobody defending it it like say Star Wars VII. There is a good reason why you don't hear people talk about the Hobbit trilogy.

Thanks for the upload mate.

Is there more?

I am afraid that is all. Looks like the comics were cancelled since the last volume was published in 2015.

well there were a bunch of hippies that liked Tolkiens work and called him late at night to talk about it. Tolkien hated those people.

Oh fuck off, the Hobbit trilogy was no where near Star Wars levels of bad. The worst it got was the latter bits of the 3rd movie. Even then it's enjoyable. The only criticism I ever saw of it was that it wasn't a copy page for page of the book. When it included everything and more. The biggest criticism I can give it is the "romance" between Kili and the lady elf.

Really? I thought one of the biggest criticisms was how dragged out it was. That and splitting it into 3 movies rather than just one or two.

I feel they could have cut the second and third movie down a bit but then you'd miss out a lot on actual character development and world building not in the book.

To be honest Geralt fucks every woman in 10km radius.

If I had to take a pair of shears into the movie, I'd cut out all the running bullshit inside the Misty Mountain where Bilbo and dwarves try to evade Smaug. Really, the movie peaked in the moment where Bilbo confronts Smaug for the first time, but after that they spent an hour trying to run away from him and looking for a manner to defeat him. That shit could have been cut down and nobody would miss it. Also if possible, I would have ended the movie with Bard the Bowman killing Smaug instead of that fuck you cliffhanger ending we got.

Heh, I don't know dude. While Geralt is not edgy, he also comes across as super male fantasy too…

I loved the sequence with Smaug and the dwarves, honestly. I do agree that they could've ended it on Bard killing Smaug though.

Yesh

Its not that far into the future yet

The only way they could have included that ending the ending was if they cut down all that running around inside Erebor. That shit really worn me down fast. They also should have cut that scene where they can't get inside Erebor's secret door and nearly give up on the quest right here. That was stalling of the worst possible kind since the audience knows better they will get inside somehow and confront Smaug.

I think there are fanedit of 3 films where they cut all the useless bullshit.

Link?

Can't talk for the others, but at least BeastMaster have jack shit to do with Conan.

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Not 100% sure.

Thanks

Unless we're taking toys it does.

There's nothing wrong with any of those things, having a competent protagonist doesn't make them a Mary Sue. He's caught off guard a lot, gets banged up considerably often, and the actions he takes aren't always the best and often lead to worse consequences than they might have otherwise.

Shit he faces is often stronger than him. Any wizard can turn Geralt into a frog.

Dubs that came off like a Tom and Jerry cartoon to me. Hell maybe I should make an animation of it as a Tom and Jerry cartoon.

One thing that bugged me was how Bale the Bard used his son to aim the bow while the bow string was tied to the pillars of the bell tower. That felt unnecessarily complicated. You could have just used the bow and arrow or just have Bard sneak up to a windlance to kill Smaug. Hell there was a lego box art that suggested Bale kills Smaug with a windlance.

Kid, no one cares.

If he's even vaguely competent he can't be Elric.
Elric pretty much carries the idiot ball everywhere.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it either. I was just noting the irony that him being a male fantasy should be appealing to Razor all these traits considered, but I suppose that since Geralt doesn't bathe himself in the blood of slaves like Elric here , it doesn't count.

Also check it out.

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They're running themselves right into the ground. Jesus Christ.

From what I remember, she is a textbook damsel in distress who does nothing but get kidnapped, put into magical sleep etc. and then Elric has to save her.

Each on of their fucksups is bigger than the previous one. If even their QA can't do their work, game will fail only because of how buggy and ugly it is on release.

The worst part is that they are fucking themselves on purpose in the name of progress. Check pic related.

Yeah they started that long ago when they decided most of their staff should be women.

My ass

They've always had awful modelers. This isn't some issue of them trying to remain 'progressive', they have made consistently ugly characters since at least Mass Effect onwards.

Miranda in Mass Effect 2 was based off a real person too, and she was also fucked a bit in the modelling process, and so was Jessica Chobot in Mass Effect 3. Illusive Man was also based off Martin Sheen iirc, so they either are just terrible at modeling, or they can't do it for women.

Origins didn't have particularly attractive models, either. The problem is that the graphics weren't perfect, so they were more able to be taken more as cartoons. Now they're further into uncanny valley.

I can sort of forgive BioWare for that Mass Effect/Origins period if only because those were the last two games they did without being owned by EA, so expecting some of janky with graphics was to be expected. Compared to Projekt at the time, they WERE producing games with nicer graphics and models.

They do not, however, have that excuse in the year of our lord Two Thousand and Seventeen

They had better graphics than CD Projekt Red, but I don't think they ever had better models. Even Origins had that ugly look that Sims 3 sims have. Even Witcher 1, which came out before Origins, had less funky-looking models.

This is one of the bigger issues with it, yes. Now that they're moving towards more realistic models we're seeing them create these really flawed faces that fall down into the uncanny valley and straight into the pits of hell.

Weird jaws and potato faces is sort of par for the course and can slip by when everything else is sort of stylized and you're spending most of your time listening to the dialogue and crunching numbers.

Now that they're sliding into uber realistic visuals with Frostbite, their shit animators and modelers stand out as even more horrendous than usual.

I really find it kind of astonishing just how big of a graphical jump Witcher 1-2 is.

2 still looks better

I read the first Melnibonay story (the book, not the comic) and I really hated it and didn't understand why other people did. All I got from it is some weak albino twink that's thoughtful and not edgy in a kingdom that's characterised by violence and edge for edge's sake.

One of the things that has been setting off my inner autistic screeching since razorfist made a fool of himself with this whole 'plagarism' thing though at least I know about Elric and might take a look at it is that by the standards set by him for it both characters are clearly just wholesale stealing from King Arthur.

The very idea that The Witcher rips off Elric absolutely requires that King Arthur hasn't been a lone hero warrior defending the lands from threats both mundane and magical since around the TWELFTH CENTURY and possibly has roots as far back as the SIXTH!!!!!

Razorfist claims that he'll go into more detail about how Geralt is just a copy of Elric in a future video and I'm certain he will. Hell given enough time and long enough to twist logic without being challenged a person can make BlackLivesMatter look like something other than a supremacist movement. But the basic irrefutable fact is that Arthur was cutting the heads off Divine Boars and Dogheads in a mythology that looks like Diablo for centuries before either author was born. I mean for Annwn sake a proud warrior of stature, earned or inherited, facing off against supernatural threats ties in closely to the concept of the mono-myth than a pulp title from the fifties.

This is just a case of two separate people writing their individual take on the Arthurian legend. And if the idea that 'they take potions' seems to be so similar a description to anyone. Just remember that these series started between the 1960's and 80's and kindly go back to your community college.

And listen, I get it, Elric seems to be a pretty interesting series and I wont be the slightest surprised if I really get into it. I know that when you feel the thing you like is better than the thing that is popular but similar to what is popular with the mainstream is infuriating, hell every time someone mentions 'Game of Thrones' Book or Series, doesn't matter I want to bash my head against the wall because the Zodiac Brave Story was a WAAAAY better rip off of the War of the Roses. obvious exaggeration and oversimplification not withstanding who else if fucking sick and tired of normies pretending shit like Ex Machina or Westworld are 'deep' and 'philosophical' when those questions were asked, tested and answered in fucking Star Trek decades ago? But don't just make shit up.

Just because something did it first, does not mean something that has a similar message/deeper meaning is suddenly written off. But I get what you're saying with everything else. It's pretty obvious that nothing is original. Everything takes inspiration from something. Unless it's a blatant blatant ripoff of a previous thing then there's no reason to get into a tizzy about it.

Royal Blood

Elric is also a copycat of Monsieur Zenith