Why doesn't Holla Forums reach out to army vets? Do you know how much they could help in the class war?

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Actual Army vet here, did my time in a combat arms MOS, deployed and was a squad leader.

There's always a lot of speculation and fucking "teenage communist" speak around veterans and their larger culture in these threads, and I'm always around to answer questions from people who actually want to know about things instead of make angry conjectures at things that could be a real boon to the socialist movement.

What does army brainwashing entail?

How many soldiers enter apolitical and come out belonging to the far-right?

Most military vets I meet are heavily indoctrinated or mentally shattered.

If we were crash course training to fite irl would it be better to focus on physical fitness. the ability to shoot straight, or coordination

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because most combat jobs are filled by cisgendered White males and we all know how much faggot degenerates like Holla Forums hate White males. Non White POGs are as useful as the average savage off duh skreets uh ha'lem

oh, or psychological preparation (that isn't brainwashing for obedience)

given, say a month to train

There's no such thing as Army brainwashing. I swear man, anyone who really believes this in 2016 I'm going to assume you're a fucking dummy, or just real young and naive. This ain't the movies, there is real training to be done. Its why the American military is a competent fighting body. There's real training to be done, and…this ain't a fucking movie.

So automatically the second part of your question is also nonsensical. You're really demonstrating a distinct lack of being able to perceive the complexity in people, be them veterans or whatever group of people. They aren't homogeneous bodies that all think the same, they're regular people like you or me. Of course there are distinct cultures within the military itself (combat support, combat arms, the remf/grunt divide) but as to people they enter as people with different views, and they exist as people with different views. The military is usually a non factor. If they are a Fox News drone then they probably entered as a Fox News drone and the military won't change that.


Then I don't know who the fuck you met, but we aren't all that way. Swing by the vets lounge in your local college and you'll find twenty somethings who do shit twenty somethings do and what not.

But of course if you've seen or been through some shit, of course it changes people. Shattered? Come on dude. Maybe they just keep it too real sometimes and offend your senses, but your statement is not in the general. Maybe somehow that's your experience, but then again just because you've met people doesn't mean you know shit about them.


I would stop doing that and focus on getting yourself to 1) not be weird in public and be able to talk to people and that includes NOT resembling a ham planet 2)learn your theory, and learn to convey Marx's message in simple and understandable language to people around you.

Whatever fight you're preparing for I would just assume won't happen anytime soon. IMO. But I guess learning to shoot is not just useful in general, but also super fun. You're also fulfilling your duty of being an armed worker should anything (unlikely) happen. And it wouldn't hurt to get intimate with the outdoors.

I didn't say i was already doing that, and I already talk to people about socialist theory and convey it fairly well.

just assuming that violence is never going to happen when the country is literally falling apart is a bit stupid though.