I am curious. i have pondered this question for the last few days. Have we passed peak degeneracy? if so when?
Things that would have flown by unhindered are now being challenged, as well as things that did go unhindered just a few years ago. e.g ghostbusters, gay pride, safe spaces, nigger riots, current year, etc.
We have all noticed the cultural shift that has and is occuring. It usurped the EU with Brexit, and Trump is riding these turning tides to the presedency. That is irrefutible, but i want to see if it can be refined to precise point in time. I have heard some attribute it to just a general culmination of what has been getting (((progressively))) worse. Personally i am leaning towards the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris. While it was worse, i think the first one had more of an effect on the western conscience. But that is only from my personal observation, which is limited and could be flawed. i want to know when others observed and experianced this shame.
So what do you think it was thatfinally made the worm turn?
I think it happened when the two /k/omrades went undercover at that Minnesota chimpout last year and defended themselves from the feral horde, only to be charged with assault and put in jail, while their assailants got off scot-free.
Alexander Moore
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Evan Sanders
It started in the 60's, it started to turn back with Gamergate
Levi Gray
The Trayvon Martin shooting. That sparked the final death of logic nd reason, and replaced it with nigger worship and communist undertones. On the flip side, that one even has catapulted red pills to the entire populous of the US, and a lot of people are waking up. They are tired of being told that they should be dead, simply for being white. They are tired of niggers ruining their cities, and nations, along with other shitskins. Degeneracy is at its peak, but so is the NatSoc movement. Whoever wins, wins permanently.
Cameron Foster
GG was the start of a lot of major redpilling for some of us, and the snowball's going faster and getting bigger.
Evan Fisher
Its possible, but they have been around for years. they were always a bunch of idiotic loud mouths and were ignored. i haven't observed them getting worse, as they were always batshit insane. Yet they started getting a lot more negative attention with little precdence.
If you mean in the sence that the pushback is going to get bigger then yes i totally agree. but when precisly?
I havent heard of this. any links for more info?
While there is not peak on stupidity and degeneracy itself im curious to whether or not that as a society we have passed the worst of it
I think that having to interact with shitskins on a daily basis has a lot to do with it. It's a lot easier to pretend that they aren't subhuman when you don't have to deal with them often.
The white privilege meme has a lot to do with it also. It makes it perfectly clear that they aren't aiming for equality, they just want to punish whiteshill whilst completely ignoring their own crimes.
I also believe that the average person is beginning to realize That it's never going to end, no matter how "tolerant" you are there will always be more demands. I think most people assumed it would stop at some point.
TLDR: I don't think it's any one event it's more of a reaction to all of the insanity in our society.
Angel Richardson
I think it was that theater in Paris.
Luke Perry
Laugh if you like, but I agree with the user who said the tide turned when the SJWs tried to turn on the scientists. (pic related) Between James Watson being "Screeee!"-ed for his heresy on the subject of HBD; Prof. Tim Hunt's comments at a Korean science expo being lied about by some fat sheboon journalism professor; and the utter shit-gargling idiocy that was Shirtgate, I think the sleepers began to wake up. Even the normiest normalfag wasn't going to let the SJWs fuck with their Star Trek/Thunderbirds daydreams.
Josiah Rodriguez
It began to go downhill in 1799, it's been slowly becoming worse since then. Everything we see today is simply a result of what started back then.
Zachary Garcia
The Tim Hunt shitstorm is when Louise Mensch got a foothold into gg/ggr and the anti-sjw crowd. She was ferociously defending him on twitter for weeks when it seemed no one did, at least not with the amount of time and energy she put into it. GG noticed and accepted her. I suspect it was a ploy all along given what a shit show she and her Murdoch blog have turned out to be.
Bentley Johnson
this. I mean we have leaked emails showing officials(who are still in office) are intentionally destroying society with this refugee crisis. where we now would have been totally unfathomable back in 2011 or 2012, yet here we are. it only took 2 years to annihilate race relations beyond recovery. almost over night it has become acceptable to hate white people openly. over the course of this election, a giant nuanced far right web has been spun, and its replacing the GOPe. we aren't reaching peak degeneracy, we are descending into third world-ism at an exponential rate. its only going to get worse. when the time comes, this will end in torrents of blood.
Jack Perez
so an attack on escapism snapped reality into place. reminds me of when the fedoras were torn apart when thier patron saint said things about muslims. interesting.
Seems quite precise. what was it, napoleons take over?
Nathan Edwards
There were three, only one went to jail, and from what I understand he was released.
I don't have the links currently, in fact they are pretty hard to find. Three armed /k/commandos went memeing around the protests on a stream, their final day there some uppity nigs were riling up the crowds because they were white and wouldn't reveal their faces while filming the horde. Eventually one of the triple/k/ got shoved into a fence and another was suckerpunched, but they managed to flee. They were pursued by the horde so one of them whipped around and fired well placed shots into some of the individuals chasing them. They turned themselves in the next day and all but one was free to go right off the bat. You had nigs trying to change the story after the fact, saying that they were police because they shot with such ackracy, and that they lured the group away from the cameras to shot them. One pair of nigs actually told the whole story on camera and admitted that the mob started it, albeit with no actual fucks given for truth, just because they were clearly too overexcited to lie. You can probably find it if you ask 4/pol/ but /k/ mods will probably still ban you for posting "offtopic" shit. The stream was on Holla Forums because /k/ banned it.
Justin Phillips
It has been a slow burn since the stock crash / housing bubble collapse in 2008 which wrecked the economy and prospects for millions of Americans. The cherry on top was an anti-American, white hating nigger President foisted on the people by smug libtards and coloureds who championed the demise of the strong white man.
Mitt Romney was the "great white hope" to turn it around, but he was so useless, cucked, and pathetic that people shut themselves off from cuckservative politics and just tried to focus on their own lives.
Then we experienced acceleration in all of the things OP mentioned. It looked really fucking bleak, and increasingly likely that Jeb! would be at the helm.
Then Trump announced, said some politically incorrect things and that was the spark that lit the revolution.
You cannot close Pandora's box now. Americans know this is now or never, this opportunity to wreck the global system will never come again, at least in our live times. And no locker room "man talk" is going to change our minds.
The pendulum is swinging back. MAGA.
Josiah Wood
As the saying goes, "reality is stranger than fiction" and by god it has not been more apparent as it is now. With all the chaos happening all over the world over this one election along, I would say we haven't reached the peak, we're only seeing the beginning. As others have mentioned, it's only going to get worse before it gets better (but I hope I'm wrong). We best be prepared for what comes next, and hope we can recover from whatever happens should the worst case scenario come to pass.
Jayden Kelly
Thanks for the info, but im not going on there, its become as cancerous as reddit to me. i only go there for /s/ now. Holla Forums /s/ is too slow for me.
Owen Campbell
this is where i dont agree with lot of the board. i dont think this has very little to do with trump. i think he is seizing the oppertunity. if trump had ran against obama in 2012 i think he would have done better than romney, but still have lost. he certainly would have done better than old man mcain in 08, but he wouldnt have won that either.
i think it occured after romney. almost certainly after ron paul. he even fell out of favour on here to a certain degree. Even if trump wasnt running these ideas would still be getting stronger, Even if Trump does 'lose'. we will get more and more chances, this isnt going away any time soon.
Shadilay brother
Joshua Peterson
That was definitely important, but I think Ferguson was really the final spark to fuel the fire. Mike Brown was caught on camera assaulting a shop owner, so the "innocent kid" narrative fell apart before it even got off the ground. I was watching the reddit threads when the riots went down, and there was nobody defending Mike Brown or the rioters. Just thousands of comments expressing disgust and contempt. You could see people's entire mindsets changing in real time.
Mason Sullivan
it happened some time in 2013. SJWs just came out of thin air and invaded everything. thats when it kicked into high gear.
Charles Young
I agree with you that the push back has almost nothing to do with trump it was happening before him and eventually I think it will evolve beyond him
Lincoln Nelson
There was no focal point for that push back though. Trump opened the aperture for it to become real. Don't let your memes just be dreams and all that.
Angel Watson
The MSM coverage of Trayvon got a lot of white people to start considering that maybe modern institutions were acting against their interests. The wailing and mourning of Mike Brown, a murderous thug who tried to shoot a cop with his own gun because he dared to harsh his buzz, solidified that suspicion. Trump saying that they have to go back and that blue lives matter gave us all permission to say it and push back against the forces of cuckdom.
Lincoln Howard
I don't think of Gamergate as a failure. I think of it as a past phase of something we're still going through. It was a cocoon that helped us to grow, but eventually it had to be discarded.
Brandon Garcia
This
When you get called racist for saying you don't see race. You should probably get it through your head that they were never actually people racist because they thought thy were racist. They were calling everyone racist because it was perfect word to get everyone to shut up and go along with whatever they wanted.
Nolan Evans
god damn it I wish you could edit shit on here.
Isaiah Walker
GG was a major player as >>7798024 said, it was a big help. But SJWs got way too over-confident and detached from reality. They started to think they were the majority and they were winning. In truth they were the loudest group, but they weren't the largest. And their constant pushing and prodding into various forms of media and social groups (video games, science, academia, media, etc).
That interference motivated a lot of people who would normally not give a shit about them to start caring. If you don't like comics, you don't give a shit about SJWs destroying comics. But when they start dealing with things you give a shit about, you start to care too. Not to mention they started with the insults. They'd start saying things like "all gamers are misogynistic and hate women." The gamers who don't actually hate women now found themselves being called a woman hater (or whatever) by someone they don't even really know. So that brought them into it too. The people who are here because of gg, you know what I'm talking about. For years we knew game media was shit and filled with SJWs, but we never cared, we just went to other sites and supported the right people. But once they all called us dead and wanted to change our hobby for reasons we don't even think are real, we got motivated.
That is happening all across society. They overstepped their boundaries by a huge margin, and now they are being beaten back into where they rightfully belong.
Oliver Jackson
Reminds me of piece on here a while back.
Christian Fisher
I'd just like to point out that "They" might also be learning from their mistakes. Even if it is only the handlers that are learning.
Henry Williams
The US (((victory))) of WWII is when the turning point happened.
The JFK assassination is when their plans started taking root. He was the first major roadblock against globalism.
Easton Clark
Just this anons 2 cents. I think the western cultural shift happened when that crazy lady sued McDonald's in 2002 because her coffee wasn't labelled hot. This was the start of PC culture that evolved over time.
Liam Kelly
The internet is the problem. It allowed so much unrestricted communication, it made people appear closer when they never been so far away from each other, it allowed degeneracy to spread invisibly among society without any means to shut it down, it created echo chambers history had never known before, and because everyone is so full of themselves, they end up not caring about anything but themselves, and even worse, obsessed about the image others perceive, so instead of just being themselves and be judged by others, they went full political correctness; there's all this talk about being yourself these days, #YOLO and all that shit, but truth is, people have never been so little themselves than in this era. Literally everyone is lying on social networks, and when an outlier is spotted, everyone points the finger at him and compare him to this standard of political correctness no one actually upholds.
I miss the old days. >you couldn't ignore someone or something and never see it pop again
As usual, people misuse technology and ruin everything. Now I just wish I had some god tier idea to turn people away from the internet and communication, and turn to books or something, or maybe just turn to each other and interact directly. The internet is just killing modern civilization.
Isaiah Sullivan
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Lincoln Richardson
And it's going to get worse, way worse.
The scene of all the filth on the streets from Taxi Driver is going to be an occurring setting in most towns.
Jaxson Hughes
Specially when you know they control the media and the narrative. You can do 99.9% of everything right, and the media will crush you over that .1% where you messed up. There's no point in trying to capitulate to these people, because no matter what happens, you will pay if you aren't on their side. And people realize this. They'll be called racist and awful by them no matter what they do. You can even be a black Trump supporter and they will call you racist against black people. Behaving like they claim we are, even when we're not actually like that works because it pisses them off. They expect people to be upset and to want to change when they hurl those insults. But when you don't give a shit, it angers them and they get stupider and stupider.
I highly doubt it, look at Hillary's campaign. Their big October surprise is he said something about grabbing pussy on the Howard Stern show. Every straight guy in this country who isn't a low-T libcuck doesn't care as they've said a lot worse. And that's their plan, when a large part of the Dem base doesn't want to vote for Hillary because of what she did to Bernie.
Logan Baker
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Thomas Sullivan
fuck, no. It's just a small taste of what's to come. Degeneracy is only the fallout of nations and societies crumbling. The peak of degeneracy, like pictures related, will be when shit like that can be done openly without reprisal.
This is when we are close to civil wars in various nations and roaming RWDS. Until then, you will witness things much worse things.
Read about degeneracy in Rome. Compared to what these faggots were doing at their 'peak', we're nuns.
only click if you have guts of iron
Colton Young
If you look deeper into that case, she was actually kind of justified.
Leo Powell
(((Science))) is at the forefront of pushing idiotic propaganda. It's quite literally the new cool word of god that is absolute truth for the unwashed masses. Believe and you shall be divinely heralded as intelligent. Disagree and be burned as a heretic.
Nathan Campbell
I don't think the spoiler on that first image is enough.
Ethan Wilson
The stupidest part about that shirt was that some girl made it for the guy.
Isaac Price
Fuck, now I'm wondering if the entire thing was to set him up.
Thomas Turner
This thinking is childish. There is no such thing as permanence, the pendulum will swing back.
Just be happy you were born to experience and be involved in the pendulum swinging in the direction of order and truth.
Jacob Ward
Science is a very convenient means of pushing propaganda because it's assumed that a scientific conclusion was reached through the scientific method and it was tested properly. In reality, people exploit it by making up random bullshit, fudging the study, and then having people assume that it's been tested and vetted properly because that's how science is supposed to work.
Matthew Ortiz
Shit like donglegate left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths too.
On the topic of the tread, I think the stagnating/failing economy has mildly redpilled many or at least made them receptive to it. People's lives are shittier than ever. Many peoples are still stuck at home with their parents. Their careers have majorly post-poned or will never manifest. People are getting outsourced and insourced. Promotions are no longer given. There is no future for anyone and the left thinks people are going to vare about niggers who are given every opportunity imaginable.
Zachary Nguyen
How bad did Weimar get before things shifted? We're seeing transgender kids, the normalization of incest and pedophilia, major newpapers gleefully celebrating white genocide… how far do we have to go? And should we accelerate it?
Nathan King
Please tell me someone hunted down and killed the guy in that first pic.
Joseph Anderson
The current generation is very near the age where they missed out on having families; so you have a massive amount of the population with no social connection, essentially a lot of pissed off people with nothing to lose. I personally feel that entertainment has really declined in all respects in the last 20 years and without constant distraction it is only a matter of time.
Robert Bennett
Gamergate was the exact point in time when significant resistance against (((cultural marxism))) began to take shape.
Without them the SJW would have never been named and shamed and the corruption of the lugenpresse never would have been revealed to a broader audience. Gamergate slammed the brakes on the Overton window's slide to the left.
Fite me.
Julian Thomas
No, and this is only the tip of the iceberg. Images like these were confined to the darknet and degenerate elitist trading places 10 years ago, but now they float around the internet as if they are a 'normal' thing.
This is what I mean by degeneracy becoming common place. Give these faggots another 15 years and people will legally fuck their pets in the middle of the street.
Dylan Reyes
The nigger in the white house. The beginning of the end of liberalism is his greatest legacy.
Christian Lee
Funny. It most certainly happened then, although there were happenings before it. I definitely remember the typical blackmailing (((they))) do in the courts, and this was no exception
Jordan Sanchez
I don't think we've quite hit it yet, things are still only getting worse. We're seeing porn discussions and gorespam on Holla Forums for fuck's sake. A place like this is getting degeneracy pushed on it, and it's actually being celebrated, with people that oppose it being called "normalfags" for not wanting a thread of discussion to be filled with dead and dismembered people for no fucking reason whatsoever other than a possible CTRfag or general retard posted something once in the thread.
None of what you just said matters, because the only reason there was an incident in the first place is the dumb old hag held the coffee between her legs instead of using the fucking cupholders.
Colton Rogers
I remember when I was at the lowest point of my life, unemployed, detached from my family, living with my girlfriend's degenerate mother. During the Zimmerman trial, my gf's mom had a "golden" meditating frog statuette that sat atop the tank of the toilet in the guest bathroom (see pic related). Gf's mom's friend was over for a few days and used that toilet a lot. Mind you, she was a 400lb hamplanet. Suffice it to say, the toilet had come loose and wobbled whenever someone would sit on it.
One day, I had a particularly awful shit and had moved my left arm back to grab for some toilet paper when I felt my elbow bump against that frog. It fell to the tile floor and shattered, revealing that it was hollow on the inside.
Later that week, Zimmerman was acquitted. I want to believe
Isaiah Ward
Absolutely. Maybe I'm projecting my feelings onto the population with this one, but I feel like people are sick of feeling unwanted and unnecessary. I think people would be happier, more content and invested in society as a whole if even if their lives were to be unremarkable, the service they provide was actually needed and useful to someone or something. Our society has ended up dominated by want rather than need. If you're wanted, the world is your oyster, the world basically beats a path to your door without you ever realizing it. If you're unwanted, you can hardly find any avenue to be useful. Myself and I believe many others are just sort of left twiddling our thumbs when it comes to meaningful and positive participation in wider society. So many are living rudderless while lost at sea without a single gust of wind.
Nolan Ramirez
No, the woman who made it was his friend and has an Etsy or some shit making those shirts with a bunch of different print styles. Right after the whole thing, that print was sold the fuck out. I really wanted to get one because people were bitching about it when I was in university
Grayson Wright
just why…
Christian Bennett
you sound like the Patriots from MGS2 taking over.
Nicholas Gutierrez
GG wasnt really a thing to people not involved in it. No one knows what it is IRL
Thomas Scott
This is what started everything for me. From then on I encountered the political correctness noose, TGSNT, and eventually Holla Forums. 2011-2012 was when I walked onto the battlefield. Since then I have begun to reject everything that had jewish fingerprints on it, including Christianity and Israel.
Sadly, the journey took a terrible earthquake and tsunami in an area that's precious to me to make me observe the world I never really liked more closely. They have always guided me since childhood.
They really don't, 8ch bills itself as "The Darkest Reaches of the Internet" and yet every user who unspoilered your image is horrified. This will NEVER be mainstream. It is an affront to natural instinct and will produce a disgust reaction in all but the most insane individuals.
I really doubt that gamergate had anything to do with the wider cultural shift, it was probably just a wake-up call to a certain subculture. I never even heard of it before coming here.
I think it definitely started with Obama, that's when people started getting a little nagging feeling in the back of their head that something is wrong. When (((they))) started pushing gay rights and especially transgender shit people began to really see that things were going bad fast. reminder even commiefornia voted against gay marriage. I think 2015 was peak degeneracy and we are finally seeing the beginnings of a massive backlash against insanity.
Juan Ramirez
I wish I could scoff that statement of yours but I can't, deep down inside I know that will probably happen. As a person who lives in San Fransisco, I can vouch that it would probably start here before anywhere else.
Grayson Allen
It's been working up for a while, but yeah, you're right. Sometime around January, what was contained to the online Twitter/Tumblr/Facebook spheres has leaked out into the real world. January was when the kike establishment started ramping shit up.
But it goes back to the summer of 2015, with the refugee crisis. That set a precedent in Europe of shit just getting out of control. After all of the degenerates saw what the refugees were getting away with, they saw it was open house for chaos and collapse.
Elijah White
I can guarantee you it was BLM. The NC chimpout pushed a lot of people over the edge.
Jayden Long
When Obama called out the police officer who arrested a belligerant professor breaking in to his own house and then that tvtray guy got shot by a puertorican jew.
Oliver Torres
No, I think the pendulum will swing in a permanent direction. The internet will be controlled in the future and thus, all the information you have access to. The very axioms of your thought will be set by the media, entertainment and common core.
Oh, and also a white minority in demographics.
Liam Thomas
Well now that's gay right is over the only question is will the next thing legalized be zoophilia or pedophilia.
Place your bets.
Jacob Wright
I think it was when the Beckham's were kidnapped by terrorists.
Jaxon Watson
The /k/omrades were featured on a TYT video.
t. former libtard
Ryan Nelson
Neh, its the simple fact that leftwing whites have less children then rightwing whites, so every generation since the boomers sees a slow decline of the amount of leftist in our society.
We millenials are generation three and when most of us start slowly moving towards their 30's you will see more and more push-back from our generation.
Our next generation will be even more rightwing, because again, leftists don't have children and this is what's turning things around.
The left is practising negative eugenics on themselves.
Isaac Martin
The eruption of lunacy coincided with the breakup of Occupy Wall Street. That was when the Left lost its remaining few marbles.
Also worth noting that the same bullshit happened in the Clinton era LA riots anyone? albeit the insanity was not this laughably obvious.
Grayson Adams
the problem with trying to determine peak X, is that you won't know it was peak until years later.
Kayden Bell
this is why they desperately need to flood the country with foreigners.
Jonathan Walker
Coffee that hot is not defective. To this day McDonalds and Starbucks serve their black coffee that hot.
That's not to say her case was entirely without merit. The coffee cups McDonalds used at the time were defective. They were structurally unsound and had a tendency to collapse.