Wicker Man arguments

In the old days, it was ripping off creators and stealing intellectual properties.

Today, it's social justice, and the belief that anyone who isn't an Obama-supporting liberal therefore must be a nazi and it's okay to physically assault them.

Most of the examples you'll find of this kind of thing are from the past few years alone, because liberals took control of the companies and then simply refused to hire anyone who didn't share identical political views.

For corporations it's even worse than you think. Because of short sighted lobbyists CEOs are legally REQUIRED to maximize profits in many situations. Which is rediculous, as many CEOs and economists will tell you. It just creates a perfect blame shift circle in certain companies. The shareholders aren't greedy little shits because they don't run the company, the CEOs legally have to run the company a certain way for those shareholders.

As far as the jobs thing, it's such horseshit that people won't do those jobs. Some study years back established that to pay cabbage pickers 16.50 an hour would only require a .05 raise per head of the cost was exclusively passed on to the consumer. Fuck, Wallmarts internal study indicates that they could raise employee minimum wage to 11 an hour and it would pay for itself. We have such a fucked over labor force. Corporate globalism kicked up the Marx problem not the BS ideology he spent his life fighting against but the problem whete the efficiency of capitalism will create excess product with less jobs, and with robots this looks to be infinite into extremely high gear.

Eventually we'll reach a breaking point where jobs either don't exist at all or are all things that robots cannot do (judges should always be human, for example) and ideally either people will do what they want and ultimately make money from their hobbies, or we will no longer have a form of currency at all, where we might revert back to a trade economy. But this is way, way in the future. It's hard to tell what will happen. I think it'll ultimately lead to a better standard of living, though.

Though I'm curious as to your points about CEOs being required to maximize profits. I believe you since lobbyists are so fucking stupid and scummy that they'd pass shit like that (I mean, corporations are fucking people now…), but I want to hear more of an explanation there.

you are that retard from /k/ which was a reason for board wide commie ban?
Oh man i cant wait to see everything you believed in destroyed again by pure logic

I have no clue what you're talking about. Did you think that maybe multiple people can have similar beliefs?
I'm not even a communist. But the reality of robots one day taking 90% of jobs is inevitable.

i cant believe that multiple people can be so retarded

user, what exactly are you trying to say here? That you don't think that, even with how things are going today, we'll never have robots doing all the service jobs? All the dirty jobs no one wants to do? Doing basically everything except for what robots can't do? I'm not saying this will happen any time soon. Not in the next ten years, not in the next fifty years. But it's going to happen eventually.

And for entering the country illegally, which is a criminal act. I still cannot figure out why this is treated like something that should be completely overlooked.

Communism

His arguments were 100% correct. They just assumed that putting something true in the mouth of a villain would make people think it was incorrect. It's a bit poorly argued, perhaps. Instead of saying
I would have pointed out that they actively protect the cirminals, and point to cases such as Rotherham and Cologne.

It's a little complicated but here's a good brief overview.

smallbusiness.chron.com/legal-relationship-between-shareholders-ceos-33637.html

This isn't to say that all CEOs are bad actors, or even a majority. In fact if a company isn't publicly traded the CEO relationship makes sense and you'll notice that privately traded companies tend to behave much more consciously of their action (with a few exceptions obviously). This is why some venture capitalist firms are such big problems. They buy shares in a company and simply tell the CEO to make them as much money as possible. It generally results in manipulation of stock prices, short term gains for long term suicide financial planning and 'hide the loss' shell corporation shuffling so the same investors can sell of the company at a high price to other firms before it goes under. If you've ever wondered how investors can make 20% or more return in the market reliably while normal people who invest with a firm tend to make rather anemic gains that's some of a factor.

As far as automation… It's both closer than you think and farther away. If we're talking pure technology wise? We're already at the point where automation could replace most jobs done by humans. Automatic vehicles are already a thing, same with mini-forklifts for stocking, assembly lines and all manner of HR jobs are handled through computers that are only getting better and better at it. Just think of how easy it would be for mcdonalds, who control the packing regulations their food has and where/how it is delivered, to engineer an automatic food cooker and preparation machine. If you've seen any major automated assembly lines you know that it wouldn't be all that hard. Though while technology is at a point where it can overtake most jobs there is a MASSIVE disincentive to actually do it, several actually.Fear that it would be a wasted investment, general stagnation of business practices, a stable market, safety as the most powerful players in the system, and even an understanding that in order to sell merchandise a consumer needs to be actually able to BUY the thing that you're selling.

I think that last one will ultimately be the argument that results in larger businesses allowing congress in the states to pass a basic minimum income or at the least an increase in the minimum wage. The united states major power used to be its robust consumer class, the middle class that has all but dissipated over the years. Without money to spend, companies have nobody to sell their stuff to, and the constraint generally starts to create a self sustaining downward spiral a la Detroit. It's gotten so bad that many cities that increase the minimum wage significantly (Seattle 15, LA requiring minimum wage for tip based jobs) saw a massive INCREASE in revenue. This is why the united states used to have about a 91%ish tax on the top earners (about all money made over a million dollars in today's money) with almost full tax credit to any money re-invested in the company. It was a system that redistributed 'wealth' in the interest of focusing 'work' in the market to continue. Without an incentive or other mechanic to force the issue money just flows in one direction until the economy suffers a massive heart attack.

Sadly with the benifits of globalism all going to one class and all the negatives being forced on the rest of the population there is a legitimate possibility that we'll end up in a world where robots do all the work, the elite live as god-kings and everyone else (save for entertainers for the god-kings amusement) are housed as cheaply as possible as a burden until the ultimate time the elite decide the underclass is to much of a burden and buy into A Modest Proposal.

Personally, I'm not convinced that stable central governments are a sure thing going forward.

The one problem with people asking for a raise in the minimum wage was that it was never meant to be your monthly salary. The minimum wage was suppose to be the littlest amount a company had to pay an employee. And, back when the economy actually was, arguably, stable, the people being paid minimum wage were all high schoolers.

What really hit the economy was the wife going to work. Originally, the husband went to work to pay the bills while the wife stayed home to take care of the house. On occasion, there were some women who sought out a job as well to bring extra money. When some companies and politicians saw the public doing this, they got the bright idea that they could start charging more for items and/or increase taxes. And, it's been spiraling down ever since.

A couple decades ago, when this argument was fresh and being trotted all over the media, this might have had some impact, but we've heard this shit for years and years and it's nothing but a lie.

People aren't leaving Mexico because they want to chase the American dream so badly that they'd just hop the border and work really hard to help America by doing all those crappy jobs. They're leaving Mexico because it's a destitute warzone run by drug cartels who have ravaged the entire country and left the people with little else but shacks built on literal piles of shit and garbage.

All their Mexican pride and their noble struggle is a reflection of how unbelievably fucked up Mexico is right now. So fucking bad, in fact, that they'd rather work multiple jobs for shit pay while pregnant dragging toddlers with them than stay in a country where some faggot gang member will decapitate people and leave their heads in the streets as warning to the dirt poor, retarded citizens.

I vaguely remember one in a boardroom with I think a snake themed supervillain?
It would take me a while to find it.

The costs for items have absolutely not basis in reality, and everything to do with psychology. There are decades worth of detailed sales data on every conceivable product at every conceivable price point and companies charge the most profitable price, with sales to purge inventory. One need not look any farther than JC Penny's to see the result of consumer friendly practices. It's simply the most purified form of 'what the market will bear' but it does stand to point out that the actual 'cost' of that cheeseburger is roughly 10 cents, building, power and employee included, and they charge 4 bucks for it.

You extremely right that minimum wage was never supposed to be a monthly salary. However this was also put in place when there were ABUNDANT blue collar jobs and even in the lower end minimum wage areas one could spend years there and obtain a management position. You could have a supermarket manager who started as a stock boy, went to check out clerk (a low-decent paying job back then) to manager over 20 years. Same for any company really, that's where retirement ceremonies and the idea of 'the gold watch' came from. However if you look at hiring practices now? Simply to many of them are hiring people for 2 years as temporary workers then letting them go. Or hiring with VASTLY over-inflated requirements so they can hire people on a work Visa.

The wife going to work certainly affected the economy, but wasn't devastating. At least until 2 working parent households became the norm, and later the expected. Given that men and women enter very different work pools and women working were never really THAT unknown in things like child rearing, education, health care, office work, garment production, and food prep/service. Though at this point where it's expected for both a wife and husband to both be working simply to pay rent as their kid grows up entirely off of TV and that state funded daycare they call education it is certainly a massive problem.

The real problem with the economy is that government is a tool of corporations rather than its regulator and rival. Now before any libertarians jump down my throat let me explain, because text doesn't convey tone very well please take this as simply my interpretation of the economic problems. Very large business interests have, via supreme court decision, given themselves the authority to bribe government officials to their hearts content. They use this power exclusively to pass business friendly laws that are friendly only to their exact type of business. Tax code loopholes are put there almost directly by large corporations that have already set their business up to take advantage of the loophole. Meanwhile they also have representatives pass regulation that is unnecessarily harsh on businesses past a certain break point. A lot of 'overregulation' is put there on purpose to stop new businesses from ever getting off the ground and for small businesses from ever having a chance to grow. With of course the added bonus of providing an easy scapegoat that can be pointed to in the news so while people fight over it they can continue to reap the benifits of a slanted status quo.

This is very much the only reason you don't actually see a congressman come up with this supposed 'fair tax code' that they like to say could exist. Think about how many years this has been an issue and how not a single representative has presented a plan to revamp the tax code that isn't just playing to their base with some idiotic version of the flat tax that mathematically wont work, ever. Simplified tax codes are certainly possible, but as the people taking most direct advantage of them are the same people who fund the campaigns there are precious few who can even speak out about it in earnest.

But, that's really just the problem. And like any problem there are plenty of solutions. There are libertarian and socialist ways to fix things, some are better or worse and some fix different things but they can fix the problem. I have always likened it to planning a trip where someone wants to fly (the fastest) and another wants to take a train (the safest). Only for petty feuds to result in a group of people angry that their is a steam engine on the tarmac with both sides blaming the other.

So basically, Ed has a damn good point here.

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Man, I love being so jaded that whenever I read a statistic like that I can immediately see how its fake.

Also, hey Batman, police are getting shot by the same kind of criminal scum that caused you to swear your life to vengeance, don't you think you should get on that instead of harassing this guy?

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obviously this is the result of virtue signaling bullshit, but Batman, Punisher, and other street level heroes like that would be our guys. They (especially a guy as smart as Bruce) would start to notice that 6/10 of the thugs they're fighting are black and noticing patterns.

Statistically speaking spics don't work, nor do blacks. Even the illegal ones are one welfare. Most whites get by just fine even now if they live in rural areas. But the solution to the problem is the exile of all non-whites and imposing mercantilism again. It has worked every single time it has ever been implemented.

The issue is that they aren't natalist, nationalist, and racialist. They don't have any connection to the population or the land, the companies that do rely on land or specific populations like most of the manufacturers in small towns, mining, logging, natural gas, ect have to get alone with the local people because they depend on something they can't get elsewhere. Impose 300% tarrifs and kick out all the muds and you'll change the incentives.

That's actually not true, they didnt't have an income tax for the best years and that 91% tax was only for the war period when most revenue was being funneled into industry by the government. Basically they were taxing to get their own money back, because there really is no other choice.

Detroit really have very little to do with economics it has to do with the changing racial demographics. Other cities survived when the industry(the US still has 2.7 times the industrial output of China) left to go to small towns. The cities which never shifted to other production or specialized industry are the ones which just happened to have the largest non-white populations.

When written right he does something about it

Got a larger version?

No, but google thankfully does

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The Mockingbird one is great because the writer hated the rape so she made the rape into a lie she told Clint (even though all of it happened on page anyway) meaning she cheated on him with a mentally ill man and when she was done dropped him off a cliff to his death.

Has anyone pointed this out, either in the comic or to the author?
That's on a par with Rachael Pollack writing Crazy Jane out of existence because she didn't like her getting raped.

Multiple times

Hopefully the year of the cock will change things

And, what was the response, of Mockingbird and the virago with her hand up her ass?

I like to imagine that, since Alkhema is based on Mockingbird's brain engrams, she now just kind of sits around cafes and lets her Wartoy drones ruin superheroes lives by posting mean tweets.

I thought it was airplanes that were safer.

with the 2nd pic I was under the impression that Red Skull was trying to demoralize Cap with the truth rather than lie.

I just saw it today.
Can't believe they skipped that scene, and just wrote away every single character they brought up in 5.
I was promised a bunch of fucking cameos and everyone gets some form of ending, but instead only Claire is allowed to even have screentime. Not even a mention of what happened to Chris, though I supose Wentworth was busy doing Legends of Tomorrow when this was filmed.

Movie was still top 3 in the series.
1 > 2 > 6 > 5 > 4 >>>>>>>> 3

Also,
NO LEON NO BUY

I'd sage for off-topic, but the thread was off-topic from the first 10 posts.

Isn't he?

There's a difference?

That second page is fucking great. Is Red Skull canonically a vegetarian?

The greatest tragedy is that not only Red Skull is 100% right, he and Cap should be friends.

Superman is a genocidal dick.

Chris was ahead of his time.

This board needs a purge.

Out of curiosity, what happened to the stories where the villain and the hero teamed up because of a greater threat on the horizon, and, after everything is all said and done (And, they still hate each other at the end of the day), they are still able to find some deep respect for the other.

Wow, I guess everyone hated 3, not just me. Anyways, yeah, 6 is fitting end to the series, but at the same time it felt like it could have been much better. Though, I have to say, I find it sad that I had more fun watching a mindless action-"horror" film about genetically enhanced clones, Matrix-esque fighting scenes (Long after the fad died down), and a zombie virus that could be almost literally be magic, than I have with any of the capeshit I've seen lately.

Writers who liked all the characters they got to write stopped coming into comics and the SJWs who write comics now refuse to allow readers to sympathize with the villains in anyway shape or form. The most recent example of the story you're talking about has to be when Broxin and Agent Venom teamed up in Philadelphia. I'll storytime it.

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I'm not much of one for heart touching comics, but that page really wasn't stroking the harp for me.
If you want a heart touching comic, I suggest reading Y: the Last Man.

Good comic, but the ending pissed me off more than anything else.

Good thing the TV series never went anywhere.

Wouldn't it be really, really easy to shoot him in the chest?

No fucking shit. I wanted to mail a package of my own shit to the writer for ending it like that.

This

What was wrong with the ending?

Robots and automation mean you can be killed off since all you do is consume and not provide anything. Robots are not going to be good for anyone but the rich. They feed you with propaganda to make robots and "the future" look good to you, but most of those advancements are geared toward replacing you.
The Zika virus is patented by the Rockefeller Foundation. Tell me again how they aren't going to get away with replacing "useless eaters".

All robotics and transhumanist propaganda should be opposed. It is nothing but a graveyard for the poor.

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The computer your using to type what your jabbering was all possible due to generations of automation. Without automation any amount of advanced development would ONLY be the domain of the rich idiot.

Im not sayings aren't getting more complicated and I do worry about transhumanism as well, but your a moron.

One word: Matriarchy.

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Says the guy who thinks being against automation on a scale that puts people out of work is somehow the same as removing automation that makes something possible at all. You are retarded. Automation in regards to manufacturing complicated parts en masse isn't the problem I am talking about.

For truly it is as black and white as that. There is just a flat point where technicians install a "Obsoletifier" switch on a machine and then BAM, were all paperclips.

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They will wipe out most of the population save for the ultra rich.

Batman is legitimately an autist, look at this shit!

What you don't cut your burgers in half first so all the stuff inside doesn't spill out?

No, i never once eat a burger that was that big

Europoors get out.

Yeah, it's the SJWs fault, not decades of stagnation and constantly chasing after the dollars of an increasingly small and aging demographic who are just as stuck in the past as the writers of the trash they buy. It wasn't executives chasing fad after fad, aping whatever was popular to make a buck, puting out 20 variant covers and endless stupid, nonsensical "events" and "reboots." No, it wasn't any of that stuff. Comics have only been shit the past five years, because of SJWs, not editorial decisions apparently designed to drive away new readers and an industry so bereft of creativity they can't make anything new or interesting enough to even compete with characters created in some instances almost a century ago.

By the hoary hosts of Haggoth, go be a faggot somewhere else.

Canonically, wasn't Cap high on crystal meth at this time?

Is that real or just a really good edit.

It's from near the end of Ann Nocenti's criminally underrated tenure on Daredevil.
Ann's a rare unpozzed leftist-feminist, who wasn't afraid to explore both sides of any argument, and show her mouthpieces as flawed human beings with confused motivations.
This generation of SJW cucks could learn a few things from her, but then again, we've established they don't read comics, and would probably REEEEEE on her for not making everything completely moral absolutist.

Wow the way you describe it her work sounds great. Guess, I'll check it out. Thanks man.

I hate to break it to ya pal…

>In Berlin, Poland, even the Soviet Union - People are making demands and being heard!

Yeah Cap, the Soviet Union was a beautiful example of people being heard:

breitbart.com/london/2016/12/23/the-soviet-union-25-years-on-a-story-of-crushing-tyranny-and-oceans-of-blood/

Such wonders did exist, back in that magical, far off time called the eighties.
I know it's hard to believe for kids these days, but relatively compos mentis feminists, lefties and conservationists, capable of verbally defending their beliefs in discourse without resorting to autistic screeching and clawing your eyes out, while always in the minority, were around.

Sadly a thing of the past now, along with VHS, drive in cinema, Teletext, Hypercolour shirts, and candy cigarettes.

I can still buy candy cigarettes in my town

wait a minute, are you telling me i'm supposed to disagree with red skull? everything he said is perfect reflection of reality, and he's supposed to be the villain. god damn the writer is an idiot

Daily Reminder that as of the New Tens, Hydra is the voice of reason and morality in the Marvel Universe.

Pathetic.

I should also mention Nocenti's Daredevil as proving that John Romita Jr. could actually draw at one point.
Yeah, I know, you try to tell people about this comic written by an evenhanded feminist with a non-retarded JR Jr., and it just sounds like it came from Earth-3 or Bizarro World.

I can see how JR jr.'s artstyle evolved into what it is now.

Having followed J.R. Jr. since his first run on Iron Man, how did he get as bad as he is now?
I've rarely seen artists actively getting worse.
Wally Wood was drinking himself to death, Bill Ward was about 150 years old, Buronson lost a fucking eye, Kieth Giffen went full retard with his Jose Munoz obsession, Frank Miller is riddled with cancer, and Erik Larsen just doesn't give a shit and is probably sore that he's the only Image founder who still has to work for a living.
What's John Romita Jr.'s excuse? He's not old enough to be senile, is he?

Nocenti/Romita Jr. run, so good, the affordable Frank Miller and the affordable Chris Claremont, lol.

Funny that this the kind of shit that gets liberals to complain about "leave politics out of comics".

Only they can do it.

So, uh, what's the deal with the super prank pulled in this one and what lesson did Jimmy Olsen learn this time?

This shit makes me long for a Moonman comic. Unabashed racism and white supremacy and murder and dreams of genocide portrayed as a good and healthful thing; a belief that everyone should subscribe to.

It'd be a hell of a lot more relatable than the SJW crap. A sociopathic serial killer and rapist that actually has fun with it would be way more human and a hell of a lot more entertaining.

Be the change you want to see. Write a script, write a couple, refine them, and eventually the universe will bring an artist to you.

Regardin Romita JR. I guess he became a parody of himself. I saw that happen with Frank Miller's work. Though I thought it was George perez that lost an eye?

Your page has upset me.

Practice makes perfect