Russia

I am in a somewhat Trump related argument.
My opponent is arguing that Russia is still a threat to the US, and is even more so though Trump.
He has so far posted this as evidence.
ausa.org/news/milley-russia-no-1-threat-us

Would anyone be so kind as to give me some counterpoints that Russia is no longer the Soviet threat and that peaceful cooperation is possible and likely under Trump?

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Russia and the US are big players. That means anything which happens on the planet they will try to get in on. Both to war will put the whole planet at war, why not instead allow them to trade?

Trump will more likely open trading ties with Russia, Clinton will go into Ukraine. Remember she called Putin, Hitler? That inflamed Russia.

Of course Russia is a threat to the USA.

The USA's interests and economy are dependent on it maintaining a global hegemonic control over key areas, resources and industries.
Without these its economy will collapse and its power evaporate.

So the USA needs to crush any threat that arises to any of these interests.
But Russia thinks the USA shouldn't have total control over the world. It wants a multipolar world comprised of multiple regional powers.
On the basis that this means concepts such as international law are actually adhered to as there are multiple parties capable of enforcing it on each other.

So the USA tries to crush a threat to its interests and Russia intervenes.
The USA stirs up shit to perpetuate the status quo and Russia intervenes.

From a national standpoint, everyone with nukes is a threat to one another, that doesn't prevent us from getting along however
Also, look at who's been expanding since the Cold War ended, the US has slowly been creeping up to Russian and Chinese borders with bases and new client states despite signing treaties agreeing not to do so


This user more or less nailed it

This 100%

In order to make any pro-Russia argument valid you have to get into some rough geopolitics that your opponent is probably not even well versed in, let along a little versed in.

It all comes down to what is happening in the middle east for the passed few decades. And specifically, what is currently happening in Syria.

One way to frame Russia as anything but evil is to point out that Russia is defending Assad and we are supporting ISIS/Israel. In order to get into that argument you have to have ammunition ready that proves the USA is funding ISIS or at the very least, US funds are making it's way to ISIS and that US involvement in the Middle East caused ISIS to grow stronger.

Then you have to point out the painful fact that while Putin was bombing ISIS strongholds, the USA was bombing Syrian infrastructure like hospitals and water plants. Which aided in the displacement of thousands of Syrians, when then flooded into Europe.

Then you would have to get into why the fuck this is happening in the first place and explain that this is all a plan to help Israel to ultimatly destroy the Middle East and take the west with it with the displacement. Bring up Saddam and Gaddafi.

That's only the Syrian point. That's not even bringing up all the resource grabs Russia is trying to hold in the region, like those fucking gas pipelines and warm water ports. It's not even bringing up the economics side really, with BRICS, the petrodollar and how the entire east (Russia, China, India) is stepping up to the West for more control of the global economy.

Its more like the other way around the US is trying to start a war with Russia and is the threat

This is the biggest and simplest arguments for normies. Remember how liberals can't into logic because their fee-fee matters more?

Here:

Putin, like most Russians, lost most of his direct family to WWII (say the NAZIS).

His father was crippled in 1941 (first battle of Nevsky Pyatachok), both his uncles died (one 1941, one 1943), his elder brother died (dyptheria during Leningrad siege), and I think his maternal grandparents also died.

Comparing him to Hitler is not just retarded, it's plainly indecent and evil.

PUTIN IS A DIRECT VICTIM OF HITLER

He's the sole survivor of a family that pretty much all died in the war.

Only a psychopath would tell to someone that lost so much relatives to WWII (for real) that's he's Hitler.

Either that or Hillary as the US state secretary is so incompetent she hasn't even read a biography of Russia president…

There that's the most simple red pill for normies about Russia and Clinton's insanity.

kill yourself ridf

That is a threat against US government, not to the people themselves.

I don't see US hegemony ever going away, I see them growing stronger and stronger. They can kick the can down the road indefinitely.

Because they are cunning pieces of shit and are able to whisper enchantments on the ears of neighbors of the major powers who threat its dominance and pit them against its rivals. Though I'm watching Duterte, it would be an immense blow but I'm not holding expectations for him to be the Based Turner of world politics.

The only countries that face against the US are China and Russia. They're the only powerful ones. The other countries that can make a front to the US don't exist. And China and Russia are not exactly friends. Diversity Kids overlords is almost guaranteed to happen.

report and hide for d&c (or being incapable of reading).

who am i dividing and conquering?

Maybe you didn't read the last part

If you want to get into a debate with some public school educated golem who has absorbed decades of pro-Israel propaganda and spoodfed false facts about WW2 about how Hitler did nothing wrong in 3 sentences or less then please… show us your ways you fucking magical wizard.

who am i dividing and conquering?

1. Jews own most of the worlds banks
2. Money is the root of all evil
3. Hitler wanted to get rid of jews

Do I win a prize? :^)

This. In general, just reminding them that Russia ran up against Hitler at some point during the war should indicate that comparing a leader to a leader of a country that has not been the best if buds for a long while now is a terrible idea. Add that she wants to go to war with Iran, a country Russia sides with and you have even more reason why there will definitely be war if she is voted in.

That said, I honestly think, when the draft comes back (and it fucking will), anyone who voted democrat should be the only ones that go. People who vote for a pro-war candidate should have to fight in those wars.

They'll just counter with muh holocaust. Your third point makes it easier for them to claim it true too.

Only the wrong russians did that.
The real russians fought for their nation
White army > red jew army

The game is vested US economic interests vs equivalent vested Russian interests.

Do you really think peaceful cooperation is possible over the Syrian pipelines? You've been hypnotized by the confirmed RIDF on this board.

RUSSIA IS A WN SUPERSTATE

Holocaust denial is illegal in russia

I don't usually try to defend Russia since it has to bigger faults to be considered a WN state, but in this retrospective, they were right to make Holocaust denial illegal.

The whole East European block was told that the Germans mass exterminated Russian, Poles and generally slavic people since he deemed them inferior. By making Holohoax illegal it both appeases the population, and makes cooperation easier with other nation.

By making Holohoax denial legal, you get demonized by most of the world, hurting the external relations, while gaining nothing in return.

The Holohoax lie will be redeemed, but this is not the time. Once the World regains it's sanity and free speech, the Holohoax can be denounced and destroyed.

Kill yourself faggot this is a facist board

All nations fall
Frankly the US is already losing their edge due to massive nonwhite invasion

most of the world doesnt arrest you for asking if it perhaps were 5 million shut your fucking whore mouth faggot.

it be


end thyself ridf

Russia is pretty based but still ZOG and anti-NatSoc. I'm just taking it with a grain of salt

In regards to the middle east the USA is in balls deep with the Saudis and Israelis.

Israelis because jews have a lot of power in the USA and the Saudis because back when the USA was first getting involved there it decided to tap the few connections it had with the Saudis for what they needed. And those connections worked very well.

You see back when the USA first really got involved in the middle east it needed to quickly raise an army to fight the Russians.
So they talked to the only ones in the region they knew aside from the Israelis.
The saudis made the yanks an offer they couldn't refuse. Not only would the Saudis see to the raising of this army but they would make sure it was directed at the Russians AND they'd match the USA's financial contributions.
So the yanks being the idiots they are went along with it because it was a good deal.

This led to the Saudis establishing madrassas in pakistan that trained and indoctrinated islamic militiamen who would then go fight the soviets.
This is where the whole "bin laden was trained by the CIA" meme came from.
It is true as the CIA provided training staff and material to these madrassas. But the CIA and USA had minimal involvement in the ideological training these militiamen went through.

The USA also burnt a lot of bridges in the middle east during this.
Like all of them. If there was a bridge it got burnt and mines left everywhere to ensure no bridge was built again.
They had many opportunities to support secularist or shia groups. But turned them all down on account of the greater resources and involvement needed to make them useful.

Then there was Iran and Operation Ajax. Which is responsible for modern day Iran and its hostility to the USA.

So where do the Israelis factor in?
Simple really.
The Israelis since day one of Israels formation have had the issue of having multiple hostile neighbours. A war with even one of them would leave them vulnerable to the rest and if they all stopped fighting each other and united against Israel? There'd be no Israel by the end of the month.
This is why they push the USA for so much military support and aid.
But ideally the Israelis have long wanted the nations of the middle east and nearby areas split up along ethnic and religious lines. To create smaller nations that are more antagonistic towards each other. Allowing Israel to be the dominant regional power and build the zionist dream of "Greater Israel"

The Saudis reason for helping the USA was because they wanted to see their particular brand of Islam become the dominant form.
The Israelis realised that during this push by the Saudis the middle east would be thrown into chaos allowing the breakup of its nations along their proposed lines.

So the Saudis and Israelis became unlikely allies on this front.
And since the USA is rather fond of both they've been able to all but dictate US policy in the middle east.

The Islamic State is great for Israel as its causing so much chaos and making nations disintegrate.

No, but you can lose your job, get expelled from University, etc.
The more important you are, the harder you will get hit.

Also, I don't think cursing is necessary.


As I said, in the current political climate, denouncing this lie would get you nothing but disdain; people are getting arrested for denouncing rapefugee violence, and the International Community is still jailing old people who had any connection to Nazi Germany.

Why live

why did they lose?

Resources, numbers, the usual reasons.

The bolsheviks took the cities early on as I recall and from there it was all downhill for their opponents.

here, more feels for you

Why did the nazis loose? Why did every european empire collapse? Its the kali yuga the ragnorak the good guys all died thats why the world is fucked

>Holla Forums is a board

Im pleasantly suprised by how good this is

We are the rebels fighting against the Marxist cancer.

Maybe we'll live one day to be part of a White Army. Maybe we'll even have a Tsar and a Motherland.


The Communists were backed by Jewish Bankers from all over Europe and America. Most of the Communist party was Jewish, and Leon Trotsky was a Jew born in New York as Leon Bergstein.

The White Army had the support of the Germans, the Eastern European countries, Japan, China and the Entante.

In the end, no matter how many volunteers went to fight the Communism, they failed; Communists controlled the infrastructure and the economy, while the Resistance fought a guerilla war in the vastness of Russia.

so like today
what makes you think we're gonna win this one then?


when does it end?

When kalki comes and stabs the jew god in the face
One of the main reasons Lord Vishnu would come to earth as Kalki is to destroy and defeat evil forces on earth. He would begin this with the battle, and eventual massacre, of the Sunyavadis, who have misled the people, at the city of Keekatpur. A war would later begin with the dark forces of Kali, including the demon generals Koka and Vikoka fighting against Kalki and the Devas

It's true, Russia has the second most powerful military in the world. They are overall probably the biggest threat to Jewish global supremacy. As for white people on the North American continent, we don't really have any competing interests with Russians. Russia should be America's natural ally, our populations have a similar temperament and world-outlook. The US was allied with Russia before the kikes conquered it in 1917, and we will be allies again once the kikes are forced out of American foreign policy decision-making by a Trump presidency.

Russia is a threat to ZOG, that much is true. If we want to be ZOGmerica forever, then the Russo-Syrian-Chinese-Iranian alliance is against 'our' interests, namely advancing Israel's quest for expanding their borders.

Vid related is a good video.

Putin and his jew buddies laughing.jpg

Which Jew buddies? You mean Beresovsky and Khordokovsky?

I don't. But I can't stop fighting either.

Since the media kikes have made Russia into global enemy #1, I really doubt that the kikes have as much influence over Russia as you suggest.

Corrupt multiculturalist empires fight other corrupt empires all the time. Just because the US doesnt like them doesnt mean they are the antithesis to the US tardo

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Roman Arkadyevich is the worlds richest jew and is putins butt buddy

That is because you don't know that the cuck meme have killed empires before.

The difference between America and Russia is that the ethnic Russians still have some control over their country, the Russian government explicitly acts in the interests of the Russian people. In contrast, the American government exists to destroy the American people in order the further the interests of kikes. It is clear the kikes have less influence in Russia than they do in America.

Well.

Russia is a part of the Russian federation.
Which is comprised of multiple states many of which are designated as ethno-states.
As in the native population have certain rights that others don't. Many of them even have their own immigration controls to determine who can and can not gain residency rights there.

Thought the Russians are generally the politically and culturally dominant force.

The Russian goverment has jailed or killed all of its nationalists. Its richest people are jews or musliums, it is being flooded with central asians. Russia has the most musliums in europe and has constant terror attacks. It doesnt give a fuck about its people putin pill.

No they don't they wouldn't build a kebab temple if they cared for their ethnic russians

Russia for russia and in a russian way

Putin does not care for the ethnic russians.

ofc Russia is a threat to the US as it can glass whole clapistan with nukes, vice versa.

This whole new "Russia is attacking us" is a smoke screen to hide US-facilitated hacks, sponsored revolutions, intelligence operations, overall corruption and shekel fighting across the world.

It's like on any average school yard: accuse someone else first, to divert suspicion.

Just look how burgerclaps cry "ivan hacked us", while hacking 3/4 of the whole fucking planet.

The diffrence between the US and Russia is american oligarchs wave a red white and blue flag and want as much power as possible, and the russian oligarchs wave a white blue red flag and want as much power as possible.

He's one of the oligarchs who gave up much of his political power in order to maintain his level of wealth. He's so much "in charge" that he's been humiliated by Putin on national television.

youtube.com/watch?v=089B8tjv4T0

I'm sure Putin would love to massacre Chechens. No one, absolutely no one, likes chechens. I have some russian friends and they're always muttering 'fucking chechens' under their breath.

One good thing of the Putin regime is that they banned Soros' NGOs and shit like Pussy Riot for subverting the traditionalism of the culture any more than it is already getting subverted by hollywood kike filth. Then again, this is a double edged sword as questioning the holocaust is now illegal.

Alright then how about Ramzan Kadyrov? Not a jew but a muzzie. By the way if you google checyan warlord his name is the first thing that comes up.

Does putin want to kill them before or after he sucks chechnayan dick

Thats the thing with Putin and why he is loved.
He got the oligarchs under control.

They're all either dead, exiled, impoverishd or have been made subservient.

As shit as Russia is now. It was worse. A lot worse.

Lol fuck that vid was awesome!
Show them this (((expert's))) view.

I don't know as much as other anons might know about Russia, but it's clear they are against massacring their own people as Zogmerica is.

Meant for

Kadyrov has no power outside of Chechnya. He's a very useful tool for keeping the Chechens in check; the people there worship him. It's not an ideal situation, but it's the best case scenario given the circumstances, and a much better alternative to an ongoing war/jihad.

He's also pretty based for a Muslim.

No russia kills mass amounts of its people

Putin cares about ethnic Russians much more than the American government cares about European-Americans. The Anglosphere and Western European governments are literally at war with their own people, Russia is a nationalist paradise in comparison.

Your a cock sucking faggot cuck, putin has to pay a ransom to keep him from rebelling again and he still supports terrorists and runs a massive criminal underworld in russia. He cuts russians heads off and sells russian women as sex slaves you nigger.
If this was the 1930 you would be telling me about MUH BASED STALIN

Russia kills its nationalists you idiots

Nah, the US has the game very stacked in their favor. And they have various angles to use, but these tards in Asia that took the side of the US don't understand that they embrace all other race mud close to heart and loathe them to the point of losing it. So picking US side they are guaranteeing a future where jaqwan, mehmet and jose overpower them. I'd rather take shit from China.

You wouldn't be making things up on the internet now would you?

in what for disney world do you live

This a thousand times. Anytime someone goes for the muh evil Ruskies argument I ask them is they're aware of who is backing who in Syria. If they know that I ask them if handling Syria the same way we did Lybia and Iraq is the proper way to go about it. They usually have to start thinking on their own at this point giving you time to start planting seeds of Doubt. Articles out of the Israeli defense department saying ISIS helps Israel work like a charm at this point.

This.

You retards need to stop moralising this shit. In the game of geopolitics there's no 'good guys' or 'bad guys', there's national interest, and a resurgent Russia is clearly not in America's national interest.

NIce strawman faggot.

So what do you propose? Regressing a resurgent Russia through war?

I do my best

We were at our best when we were fighting Russia, not when we've been allowed to stagnate. Competition breeds greatness. I don't want to fight Russia but a unipolar world is terrible for everyone, ourselves included.

This is just an argument against the US economy/government. The US has no more a right to control the world as any other nation. You can't expect us non-Americans to support your retarded neoconservative agenda and lead us into a nuclear holocaust. Fix your shit and learn how to prosper without fucking up the entire world in the process.

That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

Regressing them through whatever means necessary i.e. exactly what the US are attempting (and failing) to do right now.

War is obviously a last resort, but I wouldn't put it past the retards in charge of the US to usher in a nuclear holocaust in the name of 'national security.'

Depends on how this election goes, although even if Trump wins it's doubtful enough will change.

So we have to regress them them by supporting ISIS, arming (((rebels))) and toppling Assad? Fuck off dumbass.

Yes, this is exactly what we have to do.

We just have to get better at it. We can't let any country capable of competing with us gain a fucking inch of ground.

Fuck off. Both the JewSA and the subhuman slavs have to die for their sins.

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Nice argument, teenager.

And turning a blind eye is going to help? Who am I kidding, Im talking to a subhuman.

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This is the true face of "freedumb". Beautiful. When this shitty experiment comes crashing down, it will be gone forever. Nobody will ever buy into liberal bullshit again. Centuries of "enlightenment" will be fixed.
Beautiful. All we have to do is survive.

Good luck.

Oh boy i remember them. I'm from Poland and they were the first and last refugees we took. There was a bloc transformed into a refugee camp in my town.
A lot of them went to my school, and behaved like you would expect a sandnigger to behave.
They only went to lessons they wanted to, and even then, they decided to not come to school after a month or two. They were sat in seperate seats at back so no one noticed and no one cared.
In a lot of cases looked for random fights. No one was friends with them. Describing some one as "chechen" strook disguist in the white kids.

By the way, the various angles they can use… is like what happened with Aussies, they were quiet on the corner but then they decided to go all out with kikery, with their Jew PM. And Australia is sucking mud cock, it's their "white supremacy" to cuck for exactly none of those that can be helpful to them in the region. As I said, they can't with slant.


The US will have complete domination, they are talking about fielding new tools, minirobots that silently keep on the tail of their enemies' subs.

Whatcha doin there rabbi?

slavs

Russia can decide to be a threat, if the world economy would still work as advertised and oil revenue would still matter, in the sense that the US can't just do at will and whim worldwide. But the sphere of influence would still be huge. So right now, Russia is in a clench between low prices and a growing need of governance of middle Asia. Can't do both. Just like in the 80ies.
Ask your opponent why Syria is of any concern or why some neighboring states (Turkey is in no danger at all, Turks are maniacs), like Iraq (HA!) or Israel are of note.


The Aussies of all "nations". To say they are guilty of anything is wrong, but to say there were, yes, they were, that is why they have been banned onto an huge island with giant insects and weird haired forest dwellers. I cringe each time this comes up. The British did much more brutal stuff in other parts of the world, Aussie-land did not even notice that WWII broke out. That is how backwatery this place was.

I see much of Russia exactly the same. Most of it just happens to be part of the Russian Federation. To throw the whole russo-asian part into one pot reeks of imperialism. On both sides.


Explain how nations (not the specific country, but almost) older than the US should follow the US.

He said nothing to imply that he's a kike. He's just a europoor that think's his country will not take orders from Americas should the US act on Russia.

You're ignoring the growing military power in China. If we go to war with Russia it leaves an opportunity for China to bring down both.

What was the last war fought by the United States in which it benefited?

Not since Andrew Jackson.

If you wanted the US to be competitive against China in the next 20 years, you'd have to go back to the 1970s and start making changes.

Russia has never been a threat to the United States of America.

They weren't a threat during Imperial Russia, Soviet Russia, or Federal Russia right now.

They are a bunch of ice rednecks who only want to be left alone.

The problem is that people in America confuse "threat" with "people that don't suck our cock".

Russia is vastly weaker than the US and has no capacity to attack the United States in any meaningful way beyond ICBMs; this is from as RIDF a schill as they come, the Saker:

unz .com/tsaker/russian-options-against-a-us-attack-on-syria/

archive.is/1uTJu

This might be a good idea to enlighten your friend about "The Samson Option," and how we seem to be fighting a whole heck of wars for Israel in support of jihadist scumbags instead of Christians.

Maybe also point out that Christianity has a strong presence that is growing stronger in Iran (maybe add a picture of our Cathedral there) and yet we curiously aren't allowed to preach in Israel or Saudi Arabia and our churches get burned down by jews.

PURE COINCIDENCE

Russia has Kadyrov, it's already cucked

If this is the case, then the best thing that could happen to US foreign policy would be to remove that dependence.

May civilizations have been baited into taking on too much. They believe that they can rule the world. But as more and more control is exerted beyond the natural borders, it becomes increasingly costly to make a mistake. Eventually, the risks become so great that it's all the state can do to keep itself together. This attracts vultures and opportunists who utilize the rotting scaffolding of state to enrich themselves at the expense of the nation. This historical trend has been tasted by every civilization which has dared harvest the fruit of imperium.

If the United States is to persist as an entity which upholds the wellbeing of its citizenry, it must relinquish its role as global hegemon to focus on other pursuits. There is no alternative.

It may be too late but thats no reason not to try. It's not good that they kinda have us by our nuts, due to trade dependence.

He fucking kidnaps and murders people, including those who say mean things on the Internet about him.
As well as targeting other politicians outside of his zone of control (going as far as threatening them publicly like a madman) and even murdering them sometimes.
Everything related to him is fucking scary, you idiot.

I'm not talking about trade dependence, but rather biological weapons research. I guarantee that China will be ahead of the US within 10 years in this field due to their ability to do research without red tape and the moralism that surrounds our science. Even if the US has secret facilities, China has much more stability as their ability to have a few million of their citizens die is nothing compared to the US where a hurricane that kills 9 and leaves a few million without power is absolute devastation.

How about you fucking lurk until you know the answers to babbys first Russian politics?

The USA can't remove those dependencies without destroying itself.

Imagine the value of the US dollar being reduced to a tenth of what it currently is, overnight.
Thats what would happen on the first day the US Dollar stopped being the only currency oil is traded in internationally.

They refused to give the Russian peasants land rights. Mainly because they were the feudal elite, with a vested interest in keeping the old system intact.

It's not the best idea to essentially tell eighty percent of the population to go fuck themselves during a civil war.

The Bolsheviks promised to give land to the peasants, but then mysteriously forgot about that promise once they won.

Shhhhh dont tell the Russians the truth.

pic related; Kadyrov is a genius move. They've domesticated their muslims. What's the point of being a de-fanged, diet-coke muslim? Nothing, and that's precisely why Orthodox conversions are skyrocketing in those populations.

Lack of unity and not enough international support.

See this is where GOD is going to step in. There is always two sides to a story. ==Even within Nations==

Why? Well what you fail to point out is that The Revolution that killed the Czar of Russia and that family. You are trying to rationalize evil with evil. We all know this is why Putin is upset, but to tell me he isn't aware of the handlers is B.S.

==Every== time these cycles of events happen nobody looks to the sources and nobody can figure out where the actual source of untruthfulness lies. Because the untruthful side keeps perpetuating lies over and over again.

The Raw truth is always there for us to see.
Building a Nation and then Destroying it as the builders do, does not create anything more than lies and death here on earth.

It is very obvious from a Gnostic understanding, exactly what is going on in this cycle.

If they are a threat, then that's good. Russia>>>>>>>USA. The USA is the shittiest country on earth and needs to be destroyed, so any other country that can serve as a threat to them is automatically good.

The rest of the world wouldn't care as much if there were a significant number of non-Arab people saying that it was faked, it would actually legitimize the viewpoint much more since it would no longer be a "small-scale nazi conspiracy"

Not once whites are a minority they can't. USA power will recede along with its white population.

That is the look of a woman confident that our man can protect her and a man hoping he won't have to kill some libtard with his bare hands.

her*

That's wrong though.

The reason Holocaust denial is illegal in Russia is because the Holocaust being true is useful for Russian patriotism. Simple as that. And because the west uses nationalist groups to agitate against the Russian state, just like they did in Ukraine and have done other places. Russia knows this because they do the same thing to Europe, give money to nationalists who potentially threaten the EU or the current European order.

I want some money

Have you even been to Russia?
Russian muslims are a fucking infestation. Not all of them: some like Armayns are actually pretty based usually.

But anything from Caucasus is a fucking plague.

Truth matter not your shitty coca cola drinking sport watching patriotism

Russia for russians and in a russia way you fucking putin cocksucking muslim lover

Putin hates Hillary. WW3 is much more likely to happen with Hillary as president than with Trump as president.

Putin understands that if Hillary wins this election, there is no going back. The globalists must be stopped.

The problem with your approach is that a hegemonical U.S. means the silent end of the White race and complete domination of the kike and it's not within America's long term interests to be a Brazil-tier IQ 90 light brown mass.

How/why?

If Putin knows this, then has Putin figured out how to stop them without having the same damage inflicted upon innocent people such as mentioned I read earlier that happened to his family? It is Rhetorical. So don't even reply.

This, 100%. Putin wants Russia from the USA's thumb of hegemony. I certainly don't blame him.

Basically, the USA hates any country which operates/ seeks to operate outside of our petrodollar financial schemes or presents a threat to it, like Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, Iran etc. Anyone not under the USA's thumb.


You're right.
It's a 'Bomb them there - Invite them here' strategy. And the results of it are visible in Europe right now with the "Refugee Crisis" created by the very same people.

Those dresses are tailored so weird to the point where they make the women look like their legs are dysfunctional.

HERE LIES RUSSIA, PUTIN DID IT
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The normies aren't redpilled like we are. We can't redpill them with our full power level because it will backfire if we do so we need to change their views of Russia. We cannot afford to have another war that will probably destroy both Russia and USA. China will become a solo superpower after WWIII.

Then explain why the Russian nationalists are being thrown in jails?

Russia technically is the "#1 (((global))) threat against the US", the US currently has a duopoly over geopolitics with China and Putin has been driving a wedge through those two to build himself up independently ever since the 2008 financial crash. So is he a threat to the US gov? Yes. Is he a threat to American values, people, or laws? No not at all.

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They're not real nationalists, they're Soros/CIA-backed agent provocateurs using fashy imagery.

Russia backs all European nationalist/fascist/national socialist groups, so the "hurr durr, dey hate nationalism" argument is invalid.

Russia is only a threat to the banks and the corporations that run the US Government, Russia isn't a threat to ordinary americans or to internal national security.

Unless your opponent considers the Snowden NSA leaks to be some terrible evil treasonous act for which he deserves the death penalty then he doesn't have a case against Russia being a threat to the US. It's the other way around, the US is a thread to Russia and Russia's actions are essentially geopolitical defensive manoeuvers

I like that he mentioned Israel's in fact afraid of its own behemoth. Without Sharon, it's been wholly out of their control, though it was slowly ebbing away even then.
Gil's not fully 100% woke, but a helluva digger.
hirhome.com/israel/hirally.htm
hirhome.com/iraniraq/gulfwar.htm
Those AIPAC speeches probably woke a few to the real state of the world and that the Soroses and their ilk don't technically consider themselves "jews first" which is why Forward and Jpost endorsed.


Tagging onto that, the sauds are basically openly the least well-liked.
Thus, giving them a majority controlling leadership role over the ME makes everyone hate everyone else a lot more.
In the way one lie covered by more lies turns into a catastrophe, Israel has been throwing bandaids on a wall holding back an unending enricher torrent.
Part of the refugee thing is just frickin' redirecting the flow from already-broken holes.
telesurtv.net/english/news/Clinton-Emails-Show-She-Only-Listened-to-Pro-Honduras-Coup-Aids-20160728-0039.html
twitchy.com/loriz-3139/2013/07/23/it-takes-a-village-idiot-hillary-clinton-offers-absurd-advice-to-royal-couple-gets-schooled/
winteryknight.com/2015/10/22/hillary-clinton-ignored-over-600-requests-for-more-security-in-benghazi/
mediaite.com/online/clintons-private-emails-reveal-she-used-faulty-intel-from-ally-with-biz-interests-in-libya/
washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clintons-six-foreign-policy-catastrophes.html
Having utterly deranged retards like Hillary "assisting" you has only made the problems worse. Unfortunately, jews' #1 key to survival, their bizarre religious devotion to selfishness, is now a major hindrance. They just can't abandon a plan no matter how badly it's failing. They simply make minor readjustments time and again even in plain view of the people they're trying to fool. The Kristolnacht is now inevitable.


Well she straight up implied boynie would also be Hitler too. Madwoman's watched too many of Uncle Kissinger's propaganda films.
informationliberation.com/?id=55231


You'd win a degree from colombia university, probably, kek.


It's probably enforced about as well as their porn ban anyway. Which is to say, not at all.


Why does he look like he's at a nail-bitingly nervous card game? Is he sitting across from James Bond?


When half the population is falling off of bridges trying to take selfies, problems just seem to solve themselves.
Norly it's so prevalent they're having to tell them to stop!
cnn.com/2015/07/08/asia/russia-selfie-death-brochure/

If it ends with them accidentally nuking only themselves I'll take that! Just tell them all of Russia's nuclear weapons are based in Georgia.


ok now that one is clever as hell.


bang-on!


So it's Henri Clinton but more sensible. Like crazy ivan says, we'll take what we can get. The faster the US burns now the faster we breathe easy.


this is why I don't mind not having certain things fixed around here, it makes it easy to tell where these shills come from.

They do it because it weakens EU and NATO.

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Hi, Anglin.

I'm Ukrainian and I hate Ukraine. It's American puppet state now and it's used to fight Russia. Also, I can't understand how people fight for this corrupted shithole, it's one of the poorest states in the world with no future (in 5-10 years all young and middle aged people would leave this hell).

My brother quickly moved into warsaw after maidan thing. Smart move that was.

He did everything right.
Shame for me I didn't realize back than that Ukraine would never be a nice country to live so I'm only going to move. It's impossible to live here.

I heard Ukraine has some nationalist groups like Svoboda. Do they have any influence or nah? It's really sad to hear Ukraine not doing well. Ukrainian is an awesome language and you guys have beautiful women. Try to make Ukraine great again, user.

thats literally the proxy EU and the US used for the maidan. ukranian nationalists are anti-russian usually, and having the biggest movement in you pocket to bring down a pro-russian goverment is just butter on bread.

but after maidan when poroshenko and other jewish oligarchs took power and the nationalists started realising they got cucked, they were just dealt with, either sent to the front in donbass or supressed (except that these riots in kiev didnt get as much coverage as maidan coincidentially)

The T34's gun could penetrate the rear and side armor of a Tiger. Post discarded for engineering inaccuracy.

cant download the video
mfw

He looks h'white and based to me. Looks like Russia has the best muzzies, just like Trump has the best blacks.

Dont be discouraged by the tards that replied to your comment
Your point is accurate and not widely known and destroys the argument that Putin is literally Hitler

nnnnnnnnnggggghhh

The US will not relinquish its hegemony. Trump won't do that.

They are on the business of having full-spectrum dominance forever, and they will destroy everything on the way that threatens this. Yup, they are retarded on this question, it's non-negotiable for them.

That's why pleading is ridiculous. The only way to stop their hegemony, is making their hegemony go away. That means other nations humbling the fuck of them.

Why is it wrong? I bet that in closed-room conversations Russians loathe the idea of a global power China. They'd rather see a status quo in Asia.

These moves where Russia is sailing together with China are happening because the west crossed Russia in its sphere. For Russians I suppose they'd love a sphere where they can keep it to themselves. A kind of agreement, but it's hard to do that because the west pushes and pushes. It was like the promise that the west wouldn't meddle in the ex-soviet republics… not only have they done that… but now they're even in Ukraine.

He is a renown warlord that murders Russians but cock sucking mulattoes like you will keep sucking his dick just like you suck nigger dick from BASED BLACKS. You scum are disgusting

Hillary has continually poked the stick at Russia, especially by proxy… like her and John McCain meeting with Al-Baghdadi and other terrorists in Syria where they provided funding to the "Free Syrian Rebel Army" (terrorists) to upheave Assad. Hillary and her establishment elite on both sides of the aisle depend on taking over Syria, providing a back door to go directly into war with Russia over their oil pipelines (supplying Europe's oil). All the people who OWN HILLARY require this outcome.

On the other hand, Donald Trump is the master of the deal, the great negotiator. Trump does not want direct war with Russia. Trump is actually our only hope for some sense of peace.

Vladimir Putin certainly knows who owns Hillary and knows she's a psychopath. Obviously, it would be better for both our nations to not go all out nuclear on each other. That is an option under Hildabeast.

In fact, Russia has much more to gain (just as the USA does) by partnering with the USA in trade and in peace. We're natural allies that have been turned enemies by the globalist elites who have been manipulating us and telling us mistruths with boogey men and all.

4th pic's badge says "chair force"

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Ukrainians are more pro-white than Russia currently is.

You say that like there weren't corrupt jewish oligarchs in power beforehand.

But oh course not, russia only has good jewish oligarchs who believe in fair play and good business practices. Only the petty and jealous would criticize Putin for becoming worth a 100 billion with a life long career in government. Completely different from what Hillary Clinton did with her career in government. right?

Russia isn't the biggest threat. The biggest threat to America is internal. The biggest thread is Hillary Clinton and her establishment backers who want to see America be completely gutted.

CNN TELLS VOTERS WHAT TO SAY;'
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i would waifu yulia faster than you could say lipnitskaya

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She is a qt

Make a thread about this m8

You mean this kind of nationalists?

no

Only because Russia isn't currently the top dog. They wouldnt say no to world domination.

I think this is what they mean by "Jewish Banderism".

its just a game of lesser evils.
id rather side with the russians, you can go and be with hillary, i dont bother

Just call him paranoid and tell him the cold war is over. Doesn't he know it's the current year?

Of course it isn't. But the problem is the US government would rather have it's European blood citizens fighting against it's outside enemies then against the traitors inside.

There is a threat inside and outside, but the one inside seeks to change the demographics and laws of the nation, which is far more difficult to recover from then economic ruin through wars.

Priorities need to be made.

If Putin's Russia is a threat to the US, is he a greater or lesser threat then the Bush/Clinton/Obama folk?

What are so afraid of then?

imagine the time this will be what most people think of when they hear USA