Hitler was neither "National" nor "Socialist"!

Austin Phillips
Austin Phillips

Commies and neo-nazis need to be educated. The only way to do this is to get them to read essential NazBol and left nationalist books.
Left Nationalism reading list:
Otto Strasser - Germany Tomorrow
archive.org/stream/germanytomorrow019874mbp/germanytomorrow019874mbp_djvu.txt
Ber Borochov - Class Struggle and the Jewish Nation (optional if you don't like sionistas)
jewishvirtuallibrary.org/quot-the-national-question-and-the-class-struggle-quot-ber-dov-borochov
Joseph Stalin - the Foundations of Leninism
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/introduction.htm
George Douglas Howard Cole - Guild Socialism Re-stated
archive.org/details/guildsocialisma00colegoog
Kim Il-Sung - Revolution and Socialist Construction in Korea: The Selected Works of Kim Il-Sung
archive.org/stream/RevolutionSocialistConstructionKorea/RevolutionSocialistConstructionKorea_djvu.txt
Muammar Al-Qaddafi - The Green Book
archive.org/stream/TheGreenBookMuammarGaddafi/gaddafi-green-book_djvu.txt
Gamal Abdel Nasser - The Philosophy of the Revolution, Book One
archive.org/stream/ThePhilosophyOfTheRevolutionBookI/POTR_djvu.txt
Discuss.

Other urls found in this thread:

realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/
archive.fo/Rjd0A
breitbart.com/jerusalem/

Dominic Morales
Dominic Morales

"The transformation of economic policy by the establishment of autarchy, a State monopoly of foreign trade, and a currency standard of our own subsumed under the comprehensive term of a planned economy, is today regarded as necessary by numerous groups In Germany and elsewhere In Europe. But this theoretical recognition of a planned economy will remain sterile so long as these groups still cling to the prevailing capitalist economic law which decrees that private property is sacred. With the utmost possible emphasis, therefore, the conservative revolutionist must at this point insist upon (as indispensable preliminary to a genuine and effective planned economy) the abrogation of the prevailing economic law of private property. One who takes his stand upon the maintenance of private property in land, the raw materials that lie beneath the surface of the land, and the means of production In general, is not only repudiating German socialism, but is also defending what will make a planned economy impossible no matter how ardently in theory he may desire It. This follows without more ado from the very nature of the owner's claim that he has the right 'to do what he likes with his own', the claim which forms the core of the legal notion of 'private property'. So long as the owner of land, the raw materials that lie beneath the surface of the land, and the means of production in general, can do what he pleases with 'his property'; so long as the peasant can cultivate the fields or not as he prefers, the owner of a coalmine have the coal mined or not as he likes best, the factory owner have his factory working or idle at his own sweet will just so long is a planned economy impossible. (To say nothing about the privilege of the owner to sell his property to a foreign individual, corporation, or State, which would be fatal to the organization of a German planned economy.) For these reasons therefore, as well as for the moral reasons that have already been specified, the abolition of private property in land, the raw materials that lie beneath the surface of the land, and the means of production, is the main demand of German socialism, and the presupposition to a planned national economy. The same demand is made by all Marxians, and to this extent they are socialists, though the carrying into effect and the fruitfulness of their demand have been hindered and will be hindered by their liberal alienism. I consider it expedient to dwell upon the identity of demand in this respect as between the international Marxians and the German socialists, this being a prelude to insisting, as regards constructive methods, upon the difference between Marxism and German Socialism." - Otto Strasser, Germany Tomorrow, 1940.

Hudson Hernandez
Hudson Hernandez

You're wrong on both accounts. What the Führer wasn't is a Marxist.
Funnily enough the Führer would get mad at his cook whenever the cook secretly put some meat on his food.

Jace Peterson
Jace Peterson

realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/

everybody already knows hitler was a kike

Jack Gutierrez
Jack Gutierrez

Hitler's "socialism" was pro-private property, and anti-worker's strikes. Socialism ISN'T just when the government does a lot of stuff in the economy. Socialism is the abolition of private property, the abolition of currency in favor of non-transferable labor vouchers, the eventual redistribution of wealth, and complete democratization of the workplaces. If a country fails to meet these standards, they are not socialist.

Colton Martinez
Colton Martinez

read a book, neo-nazis!

Eli Baker
Eli Baker

attacking the Führer's economic policies
Nigger, he didn't have a hundred years, he needed something that worked then and there. And he got it, before him Germans could hardly afford to eat, after he rebuilt Germany his people were among the richest on the world. Then of course good goyim put a stop to it.
Socialism is
Find me two commies who agree on what socialism is. Protip: You can't.

Xavier Reed
Xavier Reed

That article is pretty fucking outrageous tbh.

Link
archive.fo/Rjd0A

Camden Gray
Camden Gray

kikebart

Asher Edwards
Asher Edwards

Hitler's policies worked for germany, but only in the short-term. It doesn't take one hundred years to bring about socialism, and since Capitalism remained the driving factor behind Nazi Germany, Hitler's movement would either only work if it expanded (wars) or it was doomed to fail in the face of a ally threat. Read Germany Tomorrow: there is no successful planned economy so long as private property exists. Without such a planned economy, Germany was extremely weak. State capitalism (hitler's Germany) is just a weaker form of capitalism with none of the benefits of socialism. Look at Soviet Russia. They survived many years after the fall of Germany, even when the global threat (USA, britain, EU) turned against them. The whole world was against them, yet they survived much longer than Germany.

David Taylor
David Taylor

breitbart.com/jerusalem/

Luke Cook
Luke Cook

Hitler was neither National nor Socialist
Only non Nationalist Socialists Fascists and communists in denial make this claim, please stop.

Jackson Martinez
Jackson Martinez

If you're going to be so dismissive as that w/o looking at the article then you deserve what you get friend.

Brandon Gomez
Brandon Gomez

you're right, my bad. based zionist news outlet!

Justin Jackson
Justin Jackson

Meh. Truth is truth, Chaim.

Parker Johnson
Parker Johnson

Only traitors to germany defend Hitler's capitalist system.

Benjamin Thomas
Benjamin Thomas

If it doesn't pertain to my specific definition of socialism then it isn't socialism.
Retard. Leftists can't into any other politics besides their own.

Jace Reed
Jace Reed

Nigger. Read the fucking books in the OP and THEN tell me all about it.

Lucas Wright
Lucas Wright

Bu-buht read a book!
Yes I have user, I've taken the time out of my life to read multiple leftist theories from De Leon to Marx to AnCom's.
I still disagree with all of them, me disagreeing with your ideology doesn't mean I don't understand it, I understand it perfectly and that's why I disagree, "MUH BOOOKS." is not an argument /leftypol/.
Secondly all the books OP mentions don't debunk anything I said, they just discuss nazbol ideology and others not mentioned going into the economics of Nazi Germany and trying to call it capitalist is heavily biased and romantic history tier.

Owen Anderson
Owen Anderson

A socialist is one who serves the common good
The common good according to whom??

Socialism values the individual…, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community
Who defines the "interests of the community"??

You are free to be an individual, as long as what you are doing is not contrary to what the government claims is "the common good". You are free to do anything, unless it is contrary to the government plan. Then you get squashed. But you are free…

Parker Mitchell
Parker Mitchell

Did you read the part that said "you can't have a successful national planned economy without socialism"? Because i posted that several times ITT and it's pretty important.

Landon Campbell
Landon Campbell

Common good according to whom
In favor of race and nation.
Thus "National."
Who defines "interests"
The state.
Muh freedom
You're ancap aren't you? Or at least lolberg.

Aiden Morales
Aiden Morales

I only read the op and most recent posts.
And sure I agree with that statement but Hitler was a socialist and a better one than any other socialist state before or after him.

Ryder Garcia
Ryder Garcia

Hitler was a socialist by what definition? His own?

Jason Sullivan
Jason Sullivan

He only said he was a different socialist from "Marxist socialism." because
A. He wanted an absolute socialist state.
No bridge to communism.
and B
B. He hated the association with leftists at the time, he wanted the values but often said he didn't want to be called a socialist because socialism was predominantly left wing at the time and still is now.

But even then Hitler showed multiple signs of socialism the same as "Marxist Socialists." only that he did most of his diplomacy indirectly.

He was socialist in everything but name, unlike communists who are socialists only in name.

Cameron Sullivan
Cameron Sullivan

See
If you want me to explain why he didn't abolish corporations and left private property and how he still managed to bring in real socialism even with those still being there I can.

Oliver White
Oliver White

He still managed to bring in actual socialism, but he never abolished private property and corporations? Good one.
Many socialists don't actually want communism. It is a dated end-goal.
He hated the association with the left, because if his support was all leftist, he would've been forced to change his positions. In fact, during the night of the long knives, he killed many of the leftists in the national socialist party "beefsteak nazis". Gregor Strasser was among them. Why would Hitler kill his socialist supporters? Because they could have revolted and made Germany Socialist, and he didn't want that.

Isaiah Brown
Isaiah Brown

We've been over this socialism is not your specific definition, it was literally coined by a capitalist originally, if you keep denying this fact we can't reasonably argue because you'll just keep saying "NO U."

Socialism doesn't need to abolish the market or private property to be socialism.

Hitler literally killed all leftists
Yes.
Because they would have revolted
No, if you're going to constantly criticize /pol/ for being at such a high tier of paranoia and conspiracy then you can't act like them either.

Jack Lee
Jack Lee

Socialism is not merely when the government does stuff.
socialism doesn't need to abolish the market or private property to be socialism
Yes, it does.

Jeremiah Adams
Jeremiah Adams

And before you say "But it's not a conspiracy."
Yeah no shit I know what the Night of the Long Knives is, but it seems like you're saying "If x did or didn't happen then y would be better." like /pol/ does.
Yes it does
Okay then, bye, when you come out of your denialist stage and read political theory other than your own along with basic history, and especially the history of socialism we can have a reasonable debate, tell me when.

Dominic Wilson
Dominic Wilson

Socialism isn't when the government does stuff.
Yeah I know, but it isn't when property is abolished either, otherwise you're deliberately ignoring multiple other aspects for one trait shared by only one branch.

Eli Fisher
Eli Fisher

Green Book and Foundations of Leninism are the only ones worth reading tbh

Aaron Bennett
Aaron Bennett

I'll get you some soy, tumbrl

Nolan Wright
Nolan Wright

be a NazBol
posts a Strasserist emblem

Caleb Martinez
Caleb Martinez

Nazbol =/= left nationalism

Sebastian Jones
Sebastian Jones

So?

Jaxon Rodriguez
Jaxon Rodriguez

He was vegetarian, so thats to be expected.

Angel Howard
Angel Howard

They're in the same category.

Cooper Barnes
Cooper Barnes

Lets just dumb everything down to left and right then.

John Ortiz
John Ortiz

le hitler needed to conquer the entire world to keep his economy from collapsing meme
Sure, kike