The age old question

Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

The simple answer is no, it doesn't make a sound. The tree will just make vibrations that travel through air with nothing to hear it. Sound is your eardrum picking up the vibrations the tree gives off while giving your brain signals that interpret it as "sound". Sound only exists in your brain. This is why sound doesn't exist in space. The vibrations don't travel in a vacuum.

Justin Cook
Justin Cook

right

Austin Williams
Austin Williams

Better strap on your flame suit OP

Isaac Sanders
Isaac Sanders

Literally you're a fucking moron. And this question is the oldest test for retardation known to man kind. Just because you're not there to hear the fucking thing hit the ground. It doesn't mean it didn't make a sound.
I don't know whats more rage inducing. The fact you're this handicapped or that you decided it was a good idea to shit up the board with this thread. KYS

Anthony Lewis
Anthony Lewis

This question is meant to cause people to reveal how autistic they are. If they say no it doesn't make a sound because the definition of sound and technicalities and "i didn't personally experience it, therefore it isn't real" then they are autistic. If they say yes, they are not autistic.

Sebastian Barnes
Sebastian Barnes

It doesn't mean it didn't make a sound
define "sound".

Brody Walker
Brody Walker

Autist detected.

Evan Howard
Evan Howard

sound is human sense, it is experienced by humans and animals alike. Does it just exist without a animal brain to interpret it?

Owen Gutierrez
Owen Gutierrez

so does that mean if there is a food that no one has ever tried, it has no taste ?

Andrew Stewart
Andrew Stewart

that's a horrible analogy and has nothing to do with this

Gabriel Cox
Gabriel Cox

something that you can hear or that can be heard

Lucas Adams
Lucas Adams

or that can be heard
by what?

Noah Sanders
Noah Sanders

No, it isn't. It makes perfect sense to someone who isn't completely autistic.

Asher Reyes
Asher Reyes

muh autism
That's not an argument. How do you explain that vibrations can only travel through particles like air. How come humans in the vacuum of space can't hear "sounds"? Sound is interpreted by our brain based on vibrations. It doesn't just exist.

Christian Myers
Christian Myers

I guess something that can hear.
Vibrations in the air can be heard even if they are not.

Brody Morales
Brody Morales

Vibrations in the air can be heard even if they are not
by who? which being is there with an eardrum?

Aaron Mitchell
Aaron Mitchell

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

the arrogance of the human mind

Jason Johnson
Jason Johnson

that's peekaboo logic
you can predict it made a sound even if you do not hear it
sound is not the ear picking up vibrations, but the vibrations themselves

Gavin Flores
Gavin Flores

but the vibrations themselves

No it isn't. They are just manipulating the particles in the air. Sound is when the eardrum picks up these vibrations and converts them into something we recognize and know as "sound".

Christopher Gray
Christopher Gray

You are autistic. Arrogance is intrisic in the mind of someone who has lived their entire lives believing that nothing outside of their scope of observance exists.

Joshua Cruz
Joshua Cruz

what I am saying isn't arrogant, it's based on science. The human ear picks up vibrations and then the brain interprets the sound. Microphones do the same thing. Sounds doesn't exist outside of our head, it's just a bunch of vibrations.

Luke Perry
Luke Perry

Sound is the vibration, that's how it is defined by physics.
The vibrations occur even if you do not hear them.
Beyond that is just arguing over the definition.

Ryder Reed
Ryder Reed

The vibrations are sound waves, which is what people are calling sound.
At this point the argument is just about terminology rather than what is actually happening.

Nicholas Perry
Nicholas Perry

The vibrations occur even if you do not hear them
Yes, I agree, the vibrations occur, but there is no sound. Sound is a sense.

Eli Wilson
Eli Wilson

Don't talk to me about the definition of sound you fucking cuck. I don't care about textbook definitions. I know what sound is and i don't need your fucking dictionary knowledge to realize it. Live a day outside of your own mind, arrogant asshole.

Christopher Richardson
Christopher Richardson

The vibrations are sound waves
The vibrations are vibrations. Our eardrums and brain makes them sounds.

Joseph Barnes
Joseph Barnes

I know what sound is
apparently you don't

William Foster
William Foster

Sound is a sense

That's just not how it is defined.
If there is no one around to hear them, the sounds are not heard.

Jason Hill
Jason Hill

How do deaf people exist? Is it because their eardrums are fucked up? How come they can't just feel the natural sound that is vibrated through the air?

Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia

the sounds are not heard
the vibrations are not picked up. Just think how a microphone works.

Lucas Jones
Lucas Jones

I don't know what sound is. Fine.
That's just not how it's defined.
Sound does not exist to deaf people. Deaf people cannot prove that sound exists. Why should deaf people be expected to believe in sound? That's like an autist believing that normal social interaction exists.

Gavin Morgan
Gavin Morgan

don't know what sound is. Fine.
an object (like a speaker) moves the air, creating vibrations and the human eardrum picks up the waves and the brain tells you what it sounds like.

Eli Green
Eli Green

Sound does not exist without a brain to experience and interpret it. How arrogant.

Elijah Nelson
Elijah Nelson

Why should deaf people be expected to believe in sound
Well, if sound exists everywhere, they should be able to hear it, or maybe their ear is fucked up so they can't. That's my point.

Nathan Morgan
Nathan Morgan

That's not arrogant, you fucking idiot. Do you even know what "arrogant" means?

Michael Parker
Michael Parker

this

Dominic Bailey
Dominic Bailey

Microphones do not hear.
If a deaf person open ups sound editing software and speaks into a microphone, they can see sound exists by looking at the graphs.

Josiah Parker
Josiah Parker

People who can not even experience sound, and whose brains have no ability to even synthesize it's own mental versions of it should have no obligation to believe sound exists, because sound does not exist without a brain to interpret it.
Arrogance is believing that you make the world real, rather than the other way around. If we did not ever exist, would the universe around us exist? Fool.

Jaxson Perry
Jaxson Perry

microphones pick up vibrations, just like the human ear. They are very similar. They have drums that pick up vibrations. They then interpret that as sound

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez

Every local change has global effects of some sort, measurable by outside observers. There are no closed systems.

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

But microphones do not hear anything, because they do not experience sound. Sound does not exist unless it is heard by a human mind.

Jonathan Morgan
Jonathan Morgan

because sound does not exist without a brain to interpret it.
Exactly, thanks for finally agreeing with me.

Grayson Jenkins
Grayson Jenkins

he believes that things that are not directly observable exists
Next thing you know, he'll be proclaiming his belief in god.

Noah Reyes
Noah Reyes

Arrogance is believing that you make the world real
No it isn't.

Aaron Wilson
Aaron Wilson

You're welcome! Since you interpreted my sarcasm as agreement, i have no choice but to pretend that you are correct in your assumption!

Tyler Campbell
Tyler Campbell

microphones use drums to pick up sounds and then use software to interpret them.

Carter Lewis
Carter Lewis

the consequences of sound implies they do have an obligation to believe it exists.

microphones pick up vibrations, just like the human ear.

So do many things, but that doesn't mean that they hear.

Christian Edwards
Christian Edwards

that one thread where you wish IDs were enabled

Gabriel Jenkins
Gabriel Jenkins

t. An egotistical faggot

Aiden Williams
Aiden Williams

Since you interpreted my sarcasm as agreement
I used your sarcasm as an example.

Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan

So if humans had no eyes and couldn't see anything, would that mean nothing exists?

Robert Reyes
Robert Reyes

No, it means that you can't see anything

Jayden Sullivan
Jayden Sullivan

An example of what, exactly?

Joseph Campbell
Joseph Campbell

No OP, you got it all wrong. The vibrations are the sound. Sound is not your detection of sound using your ear. That makes no sense, OP.

Christian Jackson
Christian Jackson

that sound does not exist

Joshua Jones
Joshua Jones

That's not true! If a person is born with no senses, then to him, nothing has ever existed.
Yes

Oliver Bell
Oliver Bell

Let me get something straight here, sound is a very specific sense, mentioning other senses is something else all together. Sound and vibrations are different than eye sight and touch.

Aiden Rogers
Aiden Rogers

Okay, so what if I set up a video camera in the forest and left it there, a tree fell while I was gone, and I watch the video once I bring it home? I hear the sound of the tree falling even though no one was there.

Connor Martinez
Connor Martinez

No, sound is the vibrations. Your perception of those vibrations is not sound. Sound is not a sense; hearing is a sense.

Mason Parker
Mason Parker

If a person is born with no senses, then to him, nothing has ever existed.

They are still incorrect to assume this.

Logan Jones
Logan Jones

Sound is not a sense; hearing is a sense
hearing is the brain's interpretation of vibrations which we call sound.

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

Exactly. The perception of the vibrations is not the sound. The vibrations are sound.

Grayson Howard
Grayson Howard

yes, the vibrations translate to sound in our brains, they are picked up by our eardrums. Good lad, you are learning.

Ryder Anderson
Ryder Anderson

Oh, okay. SHOW HIM PROOF that things exist.

Matthew Reyes
Matthew Reyes

No. Again, the vibrations (sound) translate into a percept.

Luke Foster
Luke Foster

The real answer is "who the fuck cares?".

Brayden Gonzalez
Brayden Gonzalez

The vibrations aren't sound, our brain makes it sound. Sound only exists in our head.

Nicholas Bell
Nicholas Bell

This.
It's not even a matter of arguing about "what's happening in the situation"
It's just "this word means this" for a word that might not actually be precisely defined, or has multiple meanings. For example, what if a deaf guy is around? What if a deaf guy and a non-deaf guy are around? Does it have to make a sound to another person? What if it's a fucking cat in the forest?

Christopher Price
Christopher Price

The sensation you hear when sound hits your eardrum is just that: a sensation. Sound itself is vibrations moving through the air.

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

Hm… Same as time exists only in our head. Time is a concept meant to explain something so abstract as to be completely impossible to imagine otherwise. The universe is so much more complex than human perception. There is no denying this. Prove to me that the complexity of the universe is real, and that my perception is not the only factor in the reality of everything. That's all i fucking ask of you autistic faggots.

Noah Stewart
Noah Stewart

wrong

Camden Jackson
Camden Jackson

the vibrations moving through the air don't have any sensations. The vibrations that hit our eardrums make it a sensation.

Christopher Roberts
Christopher Roberts

If I pull off a mask but noone's behind that mask,does anyone die?

Carson Bailey
Carson Bailey

all I can say is that time isn't linear

Robert Fisher
Robert Fisher

if no one was able to hear it
then obviously it wont make any noise at all
a tree falling
no noise
You're literally fucking retarded. If I turn my speaker on and walk a mile away, does that mean it's not making sound? No it fucking doesn't because its still playing music, just because nobody is hearing it doesn't mean the sound somehow stops magically.

Nathaniel Adams
Nathaniel Adams

If I turn my speaker on and walk a mile away, does that mean it's not making sound?
your speaker is vibrating air, it is picked up by your eardrums. If you walk away and there is no one to pick up the vibrations then it is literally just a drum moving back and forth making the air move.

Jaxson Long
Jaxson Long

No.

Jordan Williams
Jordan Williams

this is what materialists actually believe

All is mind faggot. God hears the tree.

Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell

One more time. The movement of the air is the sound. Not the mind's percept.

Angel Stewart
Angel Stewart

Arrogance is intrisic in the mind of someone who has lived their entire lives believing that nothing outside of their scope of observance exists.

Isn't that they empiricism is kind of retarded when taken too far?

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

The movement of the air is the sound
it's vibration.

Jack Ortiz
Jack Ortiz

The tree falling thing. Who posed the question originally and in what context? Was it ever meant to be literal or an analogy or what?

Jayden Price
Jayden Price

The simple answer is no

Then explain this

Robert Ramirez
Robert Ramirez

ITT: autists will not believe that anything not percieved by a human is real
Humanity does not determine reality. Our existence does not determine reality. Autists will never understand that not everything that exists can be proven. I have never seen rape, rape is an abstract concept, rape does not exist. This is the epitome of human logic, and to be illogical means to accept that you do not determine existence.

Gabriel Roberts
Gabriel Roberts

Not the mind's percept
so what is the mind's "percept"?

Jason Davis
Jason Davis

Would have been 10/10 if you had wrote out "kill yourself" instead of "kys" like a 10-year-old faget.

Jackson Campbell
Jackson Campbell

"Taken too far"
You don't accept truths that you deem too extreme. You are closed-minded. Reality is too extreme for humans to accept. It seems that it is impossible to force an autist to believe that the very reality around them exists, without their own perception.

Jaxon Rodriguez
Jaxon Rodriguez

An indescribable psychic phenomenon.

Jacob Morgan
Jacob Morgan

Concepts do not exist in the head. They exist in the mind.

Camden Taylor
Camden Taylor

recovering speech from a potato bag

How does this prove me wrong? It sounds like some pajeet faggot too.

Aaron Murphy
Aaron Murphy

No, you faggot. Hearing is a sense. Sound is a physical phenomenon

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

Absolute Empiricism is as retarded as Absolute Logic.

Absolute logic leads to man being defined as a featherless chicken.

Absolute empiricism leads to an inability accomplish any of the things that require abstract logic.

Ryder Jenkins
Ryder Jenkins

Sound was recovered even though noone was around to hear it.

Robert Butler
Robert Butler

hearing is the process of interpreting sound. Physical vibrations occur when two or more objects collide with each other.

Adam Davis
Adam Davis

Another technicality. Either understand and correctly interpret what i have to say, or don't. Don't get technical with me.

James Butler
James Butler

Sound is a physical phenomenon
lol exactly. You think it's some weird /x/-tier shit, it's just vibrations.

Benjamin Torres
Benjamin Torres

Define absolute empiricism, since you autists are ALL ABOUT definitions. it seems that you can't argue without reading directly from a textbook, or posting a peer-reviewed study to prove what you are saying.

Blake Taylor
Blake Taylor

it seems that you can't argue without reading directly from a textbook
He must be Sargoy of Mossad in disguise.

Jonathan Anderson
Jonathan Anderson

The real answer is "who the fuck cares?".

I'll answer that for you. The people who care are the ones who are aware of their own mortality and the need to find their bearings in reality. They are also the same people who realize that it is our ability to comprehend reality that brings literally everything good in our life and the more full is our comprehension the greater is the good. Now a question like OP's by itself might sound stupid, but if you isolate any one metaphysical question (a question about an ultimate truth, an absolute) then yes they seem retarded, but taken together your answer to each ultimate informs all those other ultimate, and when contradictions are found you have to resolve them for self-consistency, and in this process of answering each question, you reveal the whole to you. When the whole is revealed to you, you gain an absolute mastery over reality, and whatever mastery you do have already is a measure of the degree of fullness to which you comprehend the whole.

Mason Harris
Mason Harris

it seems that you can't argue without reading directly from a textbook, or posting a peer-reviewed study to prove what you are saying.

I haven't done any of that in the thread.

Absolute empiricism is relying entirely on observations of reality only.

What are you some kind of Aristotle fan?

Samuel Morris
Samuel Morris

<Empiricism
Empiricism is a theory that states that knowledge comes only or primarily from sensory experience. It is one of several views of epistemology, the study of human knowledge, along with rationalism and skepticism.

Oh btw anons, the only true source of knowledge is god, everything else is pseudo-knowledge.

Carter Lee
Carter Lee

No. I am an extremely bitter human being, one step away from a misanthrope. I hold an intense hatred for autism in all forms. This means that i hate most "rational" people.

Alexander Roberts
Alexander Roberts

YES, SOUNDWAVES ARE STILL THERE

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green

heh me too

I was abused and also have shit genetics and I don't really live for any other reason than to piss off people.

Joshua Cruz
Joshua Cruz

soundwaves = vibrations

they are only sound if your eardrums vibrate and your brain interprets it as sound.

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

He has no reason to attribute those machine-interpreted pictures to that of the idea of "sound". Sound does not exist to a deaf man, even when shown visual evidence, because to him, those software-rendered images are just that– software rendered images. Checkmate, autist cucks.

Nathaniel Fisher
Nathaniel Fisher

Absolute logic leads to man being defined as a featherless chicken.
no it doesn't you fucking retard.
That is the opposite of absolute retard.

he defined it as a 'featherless biped', and someone else called him out on it by showing off the featherless chicken. it was a dumb definition for human but it was not absolute logic.

Michael Sanchez
Michael Sanchez

Holy shit. Marry me. Maybe a relationship between like-minded misanthropes can bring both of us joy in triggering autists.

Cameron Sullivan
Cameron Sullivan

of absolute
absolute logic*
retard twice
meant it only once. ech.

Carter Taylor
Carter Taylor

but the vibrations are the sound, so that means they still are there. checkmate idiots

Dylan Davis
Dylan Davis

but the vibrations are the sound
vibrations move particles through the atmosphere and create waves which are then picked up by your eardrums, then your brain turns that into sound. That's how you hear music. In a vacuum you wouldn't hear shit, because your eardrums can't pick up the waves. Sound is a human thing, it's also enjoyed by animals that have eardrums and can pick up those waves. Sound itself doesn't occur naturally, it's just interpreted by a body.

Hudson Baker
Hudson Baker

that is not how sound is defined

Juan Lee
Juan Lee

yes it is

Cameron Hernandez
Cameron Hernandez

sound or hearing is a sense, the vibrations make it so

Carter Russell
Carter Russell

The problem is that that is EXACTLY how sound is defined. This spawns autistic logic. Autists do not believe sound not percieved is sound.

Owen Evans
Owen Evans

This thing we call one thing is another thing

no

Alexander Collins
Alexander Collins

I know, you feel confused. It's okay, I felt the same way at first. Just calm down and think.

Angel Reed
Angel Reed

I know what you are trying to say
It is simply incorrect

Brayden Harris
Brayden Harris

i can't help you then, you'll just have to find out for yourself

Charles Miller
Charles Miller

Hmmmm what would it take for us to get married though? Btw everything I do always pisses off the world and I bet our marriage would piss off everyone heh.

Nicholas Peterson
Nicholas Peterson

You're baiting quite hard there

Chase Long
Chase Long

You are right

Still you agree that logic needs to be informed by empirical observation right and vice versa?

By absolute I mean someone who relies entirely on one method and disregards say the evidence of the senses completely or vice versa.

Dylan Bell
Dylan Bell

he thinks i'm baiting

Charles Moore
Charles Moore

Idk user. Where do you live? (not actually asking because i want to marry a random person on Holla Forums, but because i think it's funny that we're somehow so similar)

Benjamin Morales
Benjamin Morales

Somewhere in North America. Do you live on this continent as well?

Elijah Gutierrez
Elijah Gutierrez

Wow! I also live in the western hemisphere! We're destined to be together!

Aaron Barnes
Aaron Barnes

imagine that people think particles hitting against each other and creating patterns is the same thing as sound.

Brody Bell
Brody Bell

vibrations are beautiful

Henry Lopez
Henry Lopez

Imagine people thinking that a star going supernova doesn't make any sound at all.

Mason Gutierrez
Mason Gutierrez

Yeah, it doesn't lol

Austin Gutierrez
Austin Gutierrez

sound doesn't exist without ears to hear it
Might as well say that light doesn't exist without eyes to see it. This argument is absolutely retarded.

Easton Richardson
Easton Richardson

Imagine a deaf person sitting next to a tree that is falling down in a forest while there is no one else there to hear it. Why does the deaf person not hear it?

But wait, sound exists all around, so she should be able to hear it, even if her eardrum is damaged.

Samuel Allen
Samuel Allen

Might as well say that light doesn't exist without eyes to see it
It's not the same thing. Sound is available through vibrations. If your eardrum vibrates due to the surrounding vibrations. your brain interprets it and then you hear sound.

Eli Scott
Eli Scott

it's not the same thing
Yes it fucking is faggot.

Easton Powell
Easton Powell

It's not the same thing. Sound is available through vibrations.
So? The point still stands.

Luis Moore
Luis Moore

light is electromagnetic radiation, that's not a vibration. Lol, this is basic science. The eye sees light that shines through it, the ear feels vibrations that vibrate through it. It's not even similar.

Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

see

Jacob Kelly
Jacob Kelly

Sound is available through vibrations
yes it is. Vibrations make sounds in the human ear.

Nolan Ross
Nolan Ross

What sound is apart from electromagnetic radiation has nothing to do with if it's existence is dependent upon a listener. In fact, the existence of everything isn't dependent on you, but quite the opposite. You will come and go, but everything else will remain long after you're gone.

Are you sure you know what sound is?

Tyler Miller
Tyler Miller

Are you sure you know what sound is?
Sound is the result of a human eardrum taking in vibrations and the brain interpreting those vibrations as "sound". We call these things sound, they are the things we hear, but vibrations themselves aren't a sound.

Owen Foster
Owen Foster

What sound is apart from electromagnetic radiation
Do stars in the sky make sounds in your ear? Do your ears hear a specific sound?

Ethan Murphy
Ethan Murphy

Sound is the result of a human eardrum taking in vibrations and the brain interpreting those vibrations as "sound".
I believe you have the terminology of things mixed up here, which is why there is such a major confusion among us. Sound IS vibration, what you are describing is HEARING, or the perception of sound. Sound be heard through the ears or detected by feeling vibrations, but at the end of the day, sound is vibration. Therefor, the existence of sound is independent of a listener because it is vibration.

Do stars in the sky make sounds in your ear Do your ears hear a specific sound?
I never said that sound was light, I was using a simple analogy to disprove the notion that sound does not exist without a listener.

Tyler Hall
Tyler Hall

Sound IS vibration
vibration is a vibration, it just manipulates the particles in the atmosphere. If there is no atmosphere, there is no vibration. Hence, the human ear can't hear it. "Sound" is just something we experience, it doesn't just travel in space time. It's just a interaction that we have with the vibrations. If sound was an entity and traveled through everything, why can't we hear it in space?

Connor Thomas
Connor Thomas

I never said that sound was light, I was using a simple analogy
you used a shit analogy. Sound and light isn't comparable.

Nicholas Gonzalez
Nicholas Gonzalez

The tree will just make vibrations that travel through air
meep meep if someone was present to hear the sound waves then those waves would be interpreted as sound and therefore the answer is clearly both yes and no it would be yes the tree correctly interacts with its environment in such a way that it could produce vibrations it does not make "sound" because the sound is meaningless tbh no homo

Anthony Rogers
Anthony Rogers

"Sound" is just something we experience, it doesn't just travel in space time.
As long as vibrations exist, so does sound. I don't write the dictionary, so arguing semantics is pointless.
If sound was an entity and traveled through everything, why can't we hear it in space?
It's not an "entity", but it exists without someone to listen to it. All it really is is kinetic energy propagating through a medium.

They are highly comparable. Sure, what they actually are are wildly different, but they do have many parallels. They both propagate through mediums, and they both involve transfer of energy.

Charles Gutierrez
Charles Gutierrez

"vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person's or animal's ear."
SOUND IS THE VIBRATIONS
/thread

Austin Reed
Austin Reed

As long as vibrations exist, so does sound
yeah, as long as there is someone to interpret the sound. If there isn't, it's just a vibration.

but it exists without someone to listen to it
Oh yeah? how do you know this? Based on elementary physics, i'd say that it doesn't exist, since it takes an animal with an eardrum and a brain to create the sound.

Isaiah Anderson
Isaiah Anderson

tfw no misanthropic user living somewhere in my general vicinity to team up with to troll the world until we finally summon satan and he commands us to sacrifice ourselves in return for the opportunity to kill thousands of people

:(

Luis Fisher
Luis Fisher

They both propagate through mediums, and they both involve transfer of energy.
lol

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

He's right and the analogy of space you all ignore proves his point

Justin Lewis
Justin Lewis

THIS.
This entire stupid argument and thread can be shut down with a simple definition.

Pick up a dictionary, or google the definition of "sound", because it says that sound is vibration. An animal with an eardrum and a brain doesn't create vibrations.

Henry Harris
Henry Harris

An animal with an eardrum and a brain doesn't create vibrations
I know, they receive vibrations, exactly my point.

Alexander Campbell
Alexander Campbell

But then how do you reconsile that with there being no sound in space

Thomas Myers
Thomas Myers

they keep dismissing this

Jonathan Morales
Jonathan Morales

I know, it's a very Jewish tactic in argument too

Sebastian Butler
Sebastian Butler

That vibration gets converted from a mechanical motion to a electrical signal, not sound.

That doesn't prove anything except that sound can't exist within space, but matter.

Brody Martinez
Brody Martinez

It is defined as sound before it reaches any ears, meaning the sound is present even if no living being are around because the vibrations are present. Meaning, you proved my point.

Wyatt Nguyen
Wyatt Nguyen

The only way to shutdown this thread is to answer how do we attain knowledge. How do we know reality?

Ryan Davis
Ryan Davis

That vibration gets converted from a mechanical motion to a electrical signal
So you're saying that vibrations get converted? How does this happen?

Adam Morris
Adam Morris

What sort of Fucking non argument is this

Nicholas Edwards
Nicholas Edwards

By doing the opposite of what the Jews say

Christopher Lewis
Christopher Lewis

It is defined as sound before it reaches any ear
So it transcends humans? It somehow becomes sound before it becomes a vibration?

Wyatt Howard
Wyatt Howard

How does this happen?
Through specialized sensory neurons that respond to mechanical changes, thus creating an electrical disturbance. It's called neural science.

Our brains create the closest approximation to the real and immediate world by obtaining information through sensory organs, then we come up with a common language to communicate to eachother. That's how.

Jordan Sullivan
Jordan Sullivan

The only option is to eliminate jew faggots and windmills.

Isaiah Scott
Isaiah Scott

That's basically the same as saying that sound doesn't exist unless if it able to be received
Tell me how this doesn't prove me right

Samuel Jenkins
Samuel Jenkins

No, we use windmills to get rid of faggot jews

Cameron Hill
Cameron Hill

i'm okay with this

Lucas Evans
Lucas Evans

I just don't know how "vibrations" and ""sound" mean the same thing

Evan Richardson
Evan Richardson

It sure does faggot, if you go by the definition like everybody else on the fucking planet.

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

It doesn't need to be received to exist within matter, so no it isn't the same thing.

So it transcends humans?
Wow… it's almost as if there are things that exist without us. Color me surprised.

This.

Lincoln Reyes
Lincoln Reyes

what's so hard for your dumbass to understand? The definition is right here. It's the first fucking word: "vibrations". Sound is vibrations, it doesn't matter if you don't even understand it. Everyone here recognizes that the vibrations are the sound except your stupid ass.

David Bailey
David Bailey

so sound is kind of like some kind of ghost? It just lingers, and people worship it?

Levi Rodriguez
Levi Rodriguez

mechanical motion is a supernatural belief

Joshua Davis
Joshua Davis

Nope, it's vibrations.

Landon Moore
Landon Moore

the internet dictionary defines it for me
It literally says a vibration that is heard when it reaches a animal's ear.

Lincoln White
Lincoln White

so it's like what? What if I was in space and was in a vacuum? Would it like not exist?

Kevin Gomez
Kevin Gomez

vibrations made = sound in the mind of a human

Grayson Peterson
Grayson Peterson

the vibrations are included in the definition you retard. It's part of the having sound.
having a dictionary define definitions for you
like it's supposed to do

Hunter Fisher
Hunter Fisher

CAN be heard
Are you pretending to have shitty reading comprehension on purpose?

It's ability to exist depends on if matter exists. Since you are the medium, then it can exist. But when there is no vibration present, then it doesn't exist.

Adrian Clark
Adrian Clark

It's part of the having sound.
It's part of transferring vibrations

Isaac Bell
Isaac Bell

It's part of transferring vibrations
which is defined as sound.

Gavin Hall
Gavin Hall

Are you pretending to have shitty reading comprehension on purpose?
Yeah, I don't care about your kike definitions, I am talking about sound variatons

Jonathan Evans
Jonathan Evans

you are deconstructing the entire OP, I don't care about your definitions, the original point is if you can if someone can hear a tree if it falls in an empty forest

John Stewart
John Stewart

definitions dont define what a word means

Leo Davis
Leo Davis

Yeah, I don't care about your kike definitions, I am talking about sound variatons
Oh lordy, lets throw away the dictionary and make up our own words and meanings until nothing we say even has any meaning anymore while we're at it, shall we? Holy shit.

Tyler Gomez
Tyler Gomez

Alright, I'll reconstruct it nice and wrapped up for you then.
A tree falls in the forest with nobody around to hear, it creates vibrations which is defined as sound. Therefor sound is present even if nobody is around.

If you don't agree with the definition, maybe you should go change it since you're obviously the smartest guy here.

Leo King
Leo King

What is so special about us that makes sound suddenly exist if we are there? Can you answer that for me?

Samuel Cook
Samuel Cook

769917>>7699172
Okay, fair enough, we'll go back to the original subject. How does sound relate to vibrations?

Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

It doesn't relate to it because it IS vibration. The relation is in what they are.

Hudson Torres
Hudson Torres

Oh shit, I am fucked. hehe. I bet you think i'm such a fucktard… sorry.
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Nathaniel Reyes
Nathaniel Reyes

I don't know why, but the way you're typing is giving me a boner. Meep meep, no homo.

Joshua Clark
Joshua Clark

dude i'm just fucking around I love being a fucktard

Chase Cruz
Chase Cruz

you have to be aware of your own mortality to give a shit if a fallen tree makes a sound when nobody is around to hear it
Or maybe it's the fact that the sound, or lack of a sound being made, is a completely meaningless concept if it serves no purpose other than existing is the reason why nobody should care.

Jaxson Walker
Jaxson Walker

If we're still on this ship I want to meet. I want to meet this faggot and punch his face in for the lulz ^^

Hunter Walker
Hunter Walker

But what if that gives him a boner?

Michael Cooper
Michael Cooper

want to meet? I'll pay you 20 shekels to punch your cock

Austin Ortiz
Austin Ortiz

Our brains create the closest approximation to the real and immediate world by obtaining information through sensory organs, then we come up with a common language to communicate to eachother. That's how.

That's not how you know reality that's how you know some constructed bullshit.

Charles Adams
Charles Adams

I have a boner too. wtf is this magic?

Cooper Edwards
Cooper Edwards

Obvious yes

Owen Robinson
Owen Robinson

20 money?? wtf??

Aiden Kelly
Aiden Kelly

Yeah, but what if that construction reflects reality?

Grayson Peterson
Grayson Peterson

except that's wrong.

Gavin Jones
Gavin Jones

What tree?

To exist to be perceived.

Nolan Ward
Nolan Ward

Well she is OP's mom…

Liam Baker
Liam Baker

meant for

Don't know how I fucked up this bad.

Kayden Barnes
Kayden Barnes

sound doesn't just exist, it's interpreted through an eardrum

Thomas Martinez
Thomas Martinez

this is the best meme on Holla Forums

Nolan Harris
Nolan Harris

age old question

Cameron Baker
Cameron Baker

it's not a meme

Aiden Green
Aiden Green

It actually is a meme.

Joseph Wilson
Joseph Wilson

Why?

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