OC Thread: All your dialectics are belong to us

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why electric wizard?
before we know it literally everything will have stirner's face on it
is this what he wanted?

well it is his property

The complexity of the answer I have for you baffles me so, that I lack the discoursive abilities to articulate.

So settle for a "Maybe".

someone asked for it so i delivered

Stop lying.

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new favorite xexizy

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Kierkegaard makes everything better.

And yet you make everything worse

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that's unnecessarily mean :(

Rub some Søren on it, that'll make it better.

LOL

s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=77386865078280771489
Commie rock tenor wanted.

Can't you just kill yourself and spare us from your constant shitposting?

Reddit obesity is such an attention whore that I bet he'd stream his suicide.

Pre internet leftist humor.

You're pathetic.

Prove us wrong.

Kill yourself and don't livestream it.
Go on. Do it. We know you will livestream that shit.

SIGN ME UP FOR DRAGONRAID, FUCK D&D.

I love how flattering that is.

Is it too shitty?

You'd think christians would consider lions their enemies with their roman history and all

Don't worry. Your hair will grow back. but the pic will live for ever.

Why doesn't BO make a cyclical OC thread?

There was one but the mods removed it for some reason.

The mods here are pretty cancer tbh. It's like leftypol has degenerated into the USSR.

Also I kinda like my hair atm. I still want it longer like in my morals video though, that's when it was best imo.

The mods think you're cancer too btw.

no, just negate urself

I dont blame them, would just be nice if BO or even one of the mods told me that by responding to my email about PC banning people for no reason at some point, but no, they remain silent and uninfluenced by the community.

fixed that for you.
AND YOUR HAIR IS SHIT! SHIIIIIIIIIIIT! they were better before

Anyway, I know there was, I guss they removed the OC thread and the bunkechan thread to save space.. though they should have asked the people…

Am only saying that one of the OC threads should become cyclical like the 'Murican politics thread, so that there is less need to create new ones all the time.

I thought you liked vanguardism :^)

We do like vanguardism, but the point is to have the vanguard always in check, all Stalin will take over.

OH NO! STALIN TOOK OVER AGAIN!

ALMOST LIKE IT MAY BE INHERENT TO VANGUARDS!

So who guards the guardians?

The people via democracy.

Hahahaha riiiiiight.

jk

It's ok. I have no faith in humanity too. People will always prefer safety and dictators will always take over.

It's been happening since the Athenian democracy.

Fuck off please.

No 1: I said jk

No 2: How do you know I'm an anarchist? Just because I don't seem to be a vanguardist?

No 3: Today's structure may as well be called a democracy then. Stop cheapening shit you filthy Leninist.

hahaha, yeah. There'll always be this shit.

I can tell you're an anarchist just from the way you're shit posting.

Also, stop strawmanning me. I never said anything about current day society.

AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO BE THE TYRANNICIDES! LIKE THESE TWO: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmodius_and_Aristogeiton

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Oh, wait.. they were gay… FUCK! SJWs ARE EVERYWHERE!

Ok God. So you just "know" I'm an anarchist through your analytical abilities. Vanguardism is as democratic as today's society. It would probably be even worse. If you want to call that shit democratic, then whatever. You're just cheapening the idea.

Haha if any sort of classical literature or art that included homosexuality, etc. were made today, it would get accused of being sjw.

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What?
The Athenian democracy only once or twice fell to oligarchs and got back to direct democracy.
They were undone by a foreign invasion. What are you talking about?

christ

It's bretty gud actually

Lolberts arent real, are the mommy?

Anyone got those aesthetic Stirner pictures?

The writing makes up for the lack of graphics.

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tbh this is a long time coming

small edit

Pretty sick bruh.

The mods are not cancer, you and your irc buddies are the cancer.

Sup prickly

you dont know how many layers i am on

Rate my autism fams.
Also I'm looking for a political graph, the "horseshoe with a spoke". Do you guys have it?

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this video is leftypol in a nutshell

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wot

Muke my lad don't be autistic be happy you got dubs

How can one man draw such degeneracy, such ugliness?

This is unexpectedly rather non-shit

son, you need some self-analysing to do.

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seems based tbh

FLAT
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I like his videos. I hope he makes more.

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if you'd rather work an office job than have some kind of big orgy and grow tomatoes and sunflowers in the urinal I don't know what to say to you

A nazi would know what it's like to be a neanderthal, tbh

I agree completely.

When you're a flat girl's property it means she owns you closer to her creative nothing.

top half is OC

unfair I think of both

fucking annihilated

You folk are just as bad tho

Who do you mean, you folk

Le reddit flag folk

Check out my autism guise : DDDD

I hope a rapist pops your cherry.

Me too, but I don't have a hymen.

That's because you're a man!

This is why Eduard Wirths died.

Unless you post pictures of your tits, I deem you a man.

Nice.

Hmn…seems appropriate.

what?

This thread has taken an odd turn.

i spoopy dewie dont

I really can't understand what you're trying to say.

What in the holy hell is going on in here…

Okay.

Thanks, pussyfriend.

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The cruel irony.

tit pics now

Okay.

Seriose get yo

It could only end well, really.

Why not just make it one thought-bubble? FemAnons are revolutionary too.

Yeah, but the wrong kind of revolutionary. The 'let them eat diversity' kind of revolutionary.

I personally know far too women that have moved beyond liberal identity politics to believe that is true.

*Too many women

Personally I doubt you know any women besides your mother.

Do you guys think detournement works best when it is very subtle or when it is a radical change of context?
Is anyone still doing it to anime for instance?

The real Feral Faun tbh

It works mainly if it's fun.

PAGING ALL OC CREATORS!

Would anyone be up for doing a little bit of Rojava/YPG propaganda?

They could really use it, as ISIS is much better on the propaganda front, so they legitimately appreciate well-made memes.

Doing memes for them is sweet and all but the question is, what would be the target of said propaganda? Is it something akin to a morale boost to YPG fighters themselves? Is it a matter of PR toward Western population (YPG being considered terrorist organization by burgers). Or is the objective pissing Isis and Assad's Forces by tweeting them danks memes? That changes completely the references that should be used and the messages carried.

Post more men of rojava!

All kinds of propaganda would be great.

Someone suggested painting Bashar (with a dog snout and ears), Erdogan and Al-Bagdadhi as a three-headed monster with ISIS being an army of cocroaches as a good motiff. It makes a lot of sense to middle easterners, and I suppose it translated well into Western language.

The reason Bashar is to be portrayed as a dog is because the Kurds call him "Başar Guçik" which means "Bashar the dog" rather than "Bashar Al-Assad" which means "Assad the lion".

Sure thing! :D

"Bashar the Lion" I mean.

What about Furry Bachar yiffing with Abou Bakr al Baghdadi?

As much as I like the symbolism that might be a little to explicit for them to use it.

how are homosexuals treated in rojava?

Rojava currently does not talk very openly about sexuality.
Indeed, it is forbidden within the YPG and PKK.
However, their policy is that they have no policy on it.
I would wager it's considered pretty taboo amongst most people, except maybe amongst people born after 1985.

I don't see how that's bad really unless they move against gays. I like some reservation with sex-stuff.

Well, that's a lot better then most places over there, I guess.

Obviously. You can't just have the soldiers sleeping around all the time, probably fucks up discipline and unit cohesion. I would just hope that a same-sex frateranzation incident wouldn't result in drastically more severe consequences then a opposite sex one.

There are two primary reasons for the no-sex policy

1. It's a measure to make sure that some of the more socio-conservtive Kurds are willing to let their daughters serve in the YPJ, when they're ensured that doing "male stuff" won't turn them into total harlots.

2. As patriarchal standards still dominate Kurdish society, they have a lot of issues with consent and so on, sexual coercion. Therefore, for the moment being, they prefer just having a no-sex policy so blurred lines don't have to be discussed and difficult issue won't have to be dealt with in the middle of a military conflict.

Ask the Greeks

This. I've thought about bringing the Thebian band up to them, as an example of how love conquers even the most hardened military dicipline.

Also, I want to bring how the scandinavian militaries work up to them, because they have mixed units who sleep and bathe together and they work fine.

By the government. Most Americans have either never heard of them or have a giant Kurd boner.

Firstly… checked.

Secondly… posting Kierkegaard…

Nope. No matter how many times I see that, I still don't understand it

I have many Kierkegaards comfriend!

Technically only the PKK is designated as a terrorist organization.

state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2016/04/256700.htm

I think you mean the PKK, the US gives lots of aid to the YPG but as far as i understand it is mostly to the Iraq branch, which is enough for people to say that the whole thing is tainted by the CIA and thus not worth supporting.

The Peshmerga is not a branch of the PKK though.

They are directly supporting the YPG in Syria. The pic is of the SF military advisers in they sent to Syria wearing YPG patches.

What, for hating vandalism and naked people fucking in office? Maybe you should re-evaluate your life.

Because vandalism will get you somewhere someday.

My meme skill is limited to shitty Mspaint edits but here ya go Kurdposter.

This is pretty good.
Anything is appreciated.

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Yes, you can say I'm triggered by it.

Go be a slave somewhere else

Banner! :D

I don't see esoteric nazism anywhere

Thread redeemed.

It's beautiful

Drawfag delivers yet again.

Torn between Syndicat and Meown for best grill.

Great work regardless.

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no

Everything about this is win.

Everything down to the places the characters are placed in the line-up and the glare trotcat and Pawlin are giving each other.

You are… really something.

Holy cow.

luvin' the bants

T-thank you guys so much. T___T you're always so encouraging to me.

inb4 someone tells you to post tits

Nice OC is always appreciated.

you need to create some more rightwing ones
like monarchists,nazi's, esoteric nazi ,Republicanism and corporatocracy

it would be good to have a balance

Where the fuck do you think you are?
This is leftypol

instead of esoteric nazi just say thulean

I never thought I would say this but Rodina grew up to be pretty cute.

Lenincat is cuter though. Somehow

Holy fucking hell

I don't often say this about people on Holla Forums, but please keep posting.

are you against an even cast of characters?

Leningirl hit me right in the feels though.

We all know a girl like her. A bit shy, but sharp as hell and sweet as sugar. We never paid attention to her because we were busy chasing ditzy idiots.
We were boys and we didn't know better.
Now, almost a decade of time wasted with useless people we look back and wonder what could have been. We wonder if someone out there was smarter than we were and grabbed that girl as soon as they could and held on to her with all of their might.
That would be nice. Who knows how things turned out her?

Now memories is all we have as we head into a future. Perhaps next time. Perhaps we will remember.

Everyone's got that girl, right?

We're all girls here.

That's fucking beautiful, but too bad my ideology isn't there….
T. Libertarian Socialism

democratic confederalism is there for the ypg flag

I've a few spooky ideas about some dank bank Stirner maymays.

One is using the frontal face pic and posting it on the screenshot of the Matrix movie that have a whole shitload of Smiths, but are actually Stirners. Stirners, Stirners everywhere.

Because I can't into editing. Have this though.

Had to do a tiny fix.

Another fix. It's like I'm drunk.

Right. This is crazy and shit but I want to share it anyway. Aussie hip-hop + detournement. See webm for what it's based off.

[Verse 1: Alunya]
Proletarians have nothing to offer but the skin on their backs
and the blood in their veins
Fuck the lumpenproletariat and the bourgeoisie
No surprise that there's honour amongst thieves
Lifting up the criminal as they incarcerate them
Scapegoating brown skin for a shit of a system
Making money off rap while throwing up a wall of racism
One more woman lifted up for another day of capitalism

[Alunya]
Call me the woman that's too black with the plan that's too red

[Verse 2: Rodina]
Cruising cop cars don't mean shit to me
These streets are already mean with class division
Nothing but the working day filling our vision
Exploiting ourselves and hating each other
All the while Porky sits on the man in the gutter
Pointing down lest that's were we end up
Smile wide, better pick the slack
Oughta be grateful for the job you could lack

[Break]
L. P. Detournement
L. P. Detournement
L. (L) P. (P) Detournement
L. (L) P. (P) Detournement

[Verse 3: Alunya]
Late shift or no shift for a fucking prole
Family and friends sacrificed to the payroll
No money no joy in a commodity world
Spend it on shit and find yourself in a pit
Keep on debasing yourself for that dismal bonus
It's how they keep the onus on obedience
Expedience is the order of the day
Watching the wealth flow up, up and away

[Verse 4: Rodina]
The social relations that surround me are astounding
Ears ringing with the resounding victory of capital
There ain't a corner of escape for any ape
Thinking they can carve a kingdom and debate
The merits of reform or revolution
This crippled movement shows little evolution
Fighting old wars on new battlefields
Socialism and anarchism nipping at capital's heels

[Verse 5: Alunya]
No spectre here just a spook of the past
No fear of the future accelerating fast
Going on past the point of no return
Killing the planet and humanity too
For another short term profit or two
dozen, I mean who's counting now?
Inequality is natural, intractable
Put it in the too hard basket

[Pre-Hook: Rodina]
Said it don't, it don't, it don't, it don't, it don't
get more blacker than this
It don't, it don't, it don't, it don't, it don't
get more redder than this

[Alunya]
These rich fucks just don't care. It's like they never had to work, never had to struggle. Where's your fucking shame at? Fuck is wrong with you?

[Hook: Alunya & Rodina]
It's IDEOLOGY, too green too obscene
Smashing proletarian minds been going on too long
It's IDEOLOGY, it ends in a grave
When they charge you for dying while everyone crying
It's IDEOLOGY, they put a bullet in your head
Cause Porky fears the black and the red
It's IDEOLOGY, saying money talks but labor don't
It's IDEOLOGY, wide awake but totally baked

[Pre-Verse: Rodina]
Proles ain't got shit, that's how it'll stay
While backs are snapped, hands broken all day
Keep bending the knee to a man on earth
Who cares not for camels and needles
Or feeding the poor with cardinal funds

[Verse 6: Alunya]
Nothing worse then a class with a plan
Setting up the guillotine and sharpening minds
Waiting for the right moment to strike
Freeze the commodities sitting on idle trucks
In empty shops as all commerce stops
The crowd bringing Porky down from the glass tower
Then in one fell swoop the terror finally starts

[Refrain: Alunya & Rodina]
TOO BLACK (TOO BLACK)
TOO RED (TOO RED)
TOO BLACK (TOO BLACK)
TOO RED (TOO RED)
TOO BLACK (TOO BLACK)
TOO RED (TOO RED)
TOO RED (TOO RED)
TOO RED (TOO RED)

[Outro: Rodina & Alunya]
Ne A, I went to the doctor and he checked my head
And I bet that it was red
Yeah, he says that shit's not healthy
And I bet that it was red
Yeah, like it's not meant to be red
And I bet that it was red
Yeah, that's what I said
And I bet that it was
That's not right

Knocked it up in a few hours over a couple of days. Feel free to tear it apart but I had a lot of fun with this.

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Anarchism is there too…

What's missing is the religious left. But that's okay.

Anarcho-facism is also left out :(

I'm pretty sure that's included under "alt-right" along with paleoconservatives and I guess national-anarchism.

This is actually beautiful. I love the small touches like how the Trotskyist is looking at Stalin like >_>

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…….. Who's Rodina?

In Cat grills high she is upaged though

Her name was Rodina this entire time? I always thought it was just GET-Chan, man I need to lurk more

Beautiful!

Marie Kanker is an anarchist. Interesting.

Absolutely beautiful, comrade.

You should make an anarcha-feminism catgirl. She would be fascism catgirl's identical twin.

So cute :3

Is this the meme magic?

Seems pretty close the the average to me.

Yes

This meme must end

All the girls at my school where either bitches, sluts, bimbos, druggies or complete freak shows, no clue what you're talking about.
Then again, i was the Tomoko of my school.

tfw no gf

kys

>situationism
That's not how it works.

I can see you worked really hard on this, and it's pretty awesome. To step it up even further, you should maybe try to actually perform and record it (maybe into a webm we can post around). It's a tall order, but without actual presentation, those lyrics won't ever see the light of day comrade.

Get over yourself friend

Gorgeous.

YES!
AT LAST!
THE FAPPENING CAN BEGIN!

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jesus christ. no wonder you don't get laid.

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fucking glorious, although I don't think the situs would appreciate people calling themselves situationists, they hated that sort of spectacular stuff. Maybe it could be changed to critical theory or another broader term for continental leftist philosophy stuff or maybe even post-leftism
again tho this is absolutely beautiful

Okay. Here a some few signs we're dealing with a GENIUS here.

1. Look at Alunya and Rodina's line of action. Look at dat shit. They are by far the most energized in the whole illustration, and thus form a natural center-point that has nothing to do with with the fact they're also the litteral center-point of the illustration. Because of the bend to Alunya's index finger her LoA initially skews towards the right, but then smoothly is turned towards the left through her arm down her torso and down through the leg closest to the viewer.
Rodina provides a counterforce to this. Her LoA initially bends leftwards through her beret and face but is smoothly turned towards the right in A GENIUS MOVE by the artist to harve her put her hands together to smoothen the transition. This line of action continues past her hips, and is a little offset by Rodina's legs, but the tail saves it all.

All in all, on thse two characters ALONE a great deal of consideration must have come into play.

2. All characters are instantly recognizable from their silhouettes, and every little of their pose would have been obscured if we saw only their silhuette.
The only real exception would be Anarchism and Anarcho-Transhumanism, but I get the sense they're supposed to be a pair like Fred and George.
This is something pros fuck up all the time, so Rach getting this right is even more impressive.

3. The group iself has a rather smooth line, even the character vary greatly in height.
Look at egoist catgirl. Imagine that she hadn't been there. Imagine what an eyesore the "bump" in the line-up must have been.
No, Ego-girl was placed tactically to smoothen out the look of the line-up.
On the other end of the spectrum, the opposite princeople is used. Both nazi cat and nihilist cat are place awkwardly, but this goes to say a lot about their character. They both "stick out like a sore thumb" in each of their own way.

Fucking brilliant this is, I don't know why you waste your time on a fucking chan instead of being fucking famous or something

10/10.

DON'T GIVE HER IDEAS.

But nice analysis comrade.

Oh shit a reply. I knew it would be little more than a curiosity without actually being wedded to some beats. Problem is I'm clueless when it comes to music production. I suppose if I got a decent mic and absconded to a quiet corner I could muster up the courage to perform it, but that's not going to happen any time soon. Won't fix the beat problem in any case.

Thanks comr8, I appreciate it. I've never written something like this before so I figured it was hot garbage at best.

You missed the point of the comic. The underlying idea is that the workers hate their shitty jobs and they say 'fuck it' one day and take over the building. Of course IRL this is impractical and silly. You may be autistic.

We've got Democratic Confederalism and Syndicalism, m8.
That feel when no Mutualism.

this is cringey as fuck

you belong in the bottom of a garbage can so deep it would require its own five year plan to build

Then they could do that twin thing where they always seem to know what one another is thinking and sometimes complete each other's sentences.

Kek'd, seconded, and checked

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Nope, he's completely right.

You belong in the trash.

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This propaganda isn't working, try a different angle

Stalin is best girl

Literally the only decent person here

plz never leave

yes

posting this here so it can be added to the leftybooru

I added this to my prickly cactus fanart folder

It's good. I like it.

Ayy guys. Some OC.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Real, is in fact, Real/Ideology, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Reality plus Ideology. Reality is not an ontological doctrine unto itself, but rather another free component within the ontological fabric, knitted by the hegemonic systems of representation and reproduction, comprising a full ontological doctrine as defined by Plato.
Many people run a modified version of the Ideological system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Ideology which is widely used today is often called “Real”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically an Ideological system, developed by the ruling class. There really is a Real, and these people exist within it, but it is just a part of the system they experience.
Reality is the state of things as they actually exist. The truth is an essential part of an ontological doctrine, but useless by itself; it can only be experienced in the context of a complete Symbolic Interpretation. Reality is normally used in combination with false consciousness: the whole system is basically Real with Ideology added, or Real/Ideology. All the so-called “ideological conceptions' are really distributions of Real/Ideology

bump so everyone can see this

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wtf I normally find the catgirl thing pretty repulse and cringy (pls no hate) but this is based af. good work user

fresh from the Alliance for Workers' Liberty

Is this an autist test? Because you might just get murdered in process.

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Not mine, but posting them anyway

Oh, last one meant to be

this has some stirnerposting potential

top kek

Damn, son. This needs to happen.

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It's funny because it's true.

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Honestly, just run away. If you aggravated him in any way, he could just sit on you and crush you to death.

Kill him and use his fat to make molotovs for the revolution.

You can't take my fat, it's my property

well isn't that a spook,

you better defend it

Is that a nazi salute?

what?

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Unf, I wanna put something on that tongue

Wait, is that Rebel?

Still waiting for muke to post on /cuteboys/ tbh

Please r8

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Thank you guys for all the nice comments and feedback!!

wow dang this is really flattering thanks user.

there are no leftists where I live so it's nice hanging out here and leddit to make myself feel less alienated and depressed.

I've also always wanted to do political comics all my life but felt like I didn't have the knowledge to do so. it's just a fun outlet for me right now tbh. also I'm constantly consumed by self doubt which makes it difficult to finish anything lol

What do you guys think about this comic? Cringey? Funny? Dumb? Would you read more like this? I wasn't going to post it bc I wasn't sure how it wold be received but I'm like eh what the hell. never gonna please everyone.

the rest, and a dumb simpsons reference bc I needed to.

great as always comr8

ayyy feels good that you featured my get in your newest cartoon based drawfag :3

though you shoulda had nihilist-tan on the roof, tbh

Catgirl drawfag isn't a copcuck but acknowledges that we shouldn't alienate workers by appearing as vicious animals

You should honestly find another planet to live/work on. Earth and humanity simply don't deserve your magnificence.

It's like the other posters on this board aren't even trying

You're engaged/married, right? I hope you remind your SO everyday how lucky he is.

Catfag has a leftist heart.

Anyways, why haven't any of you bitches used these yet ←—

We could have the ghosts around him be nazi or other social liberal idpolers

This is literally perfect. It has humour, memes, drawn well, it's cute, it actually asks important questions and gives reasonable arguments about it and it even pokes a little fun at anarchkiddies.

Seriously, amazing job. I really wish Holla Forums could do something to repay you for this dank OC.

Also, ever considered chilling on the IRC some time?

It is like you want to ruin him,stop. I agree with the rest of your post though

If by ruin you mean spread glorious Leninism.

It's only flattery if it isn't true. I did my best to explain why it was technically good, and didn't just shower you with empty compliments.

That being said, I like your new comic.
Perhaps you ought make a little more clear that how something like what Micah did makes sure that cops don't get away with killing innocents. Otherwise people might just think that you like killing for the sake of killing.

It's about establishing reciprocity. When innocent citizens die, innocent cops die. Thus both parties have an interest in establishing peace and both have leverage in negotiations.

Otherwise it's a really good comic too. I absolutely love the humour. Even if it does poke fun of my political ideology a bit kek.

I'm sorry to hear about your personal issues. I hope you get better, R

Fuck off Muke. The IRC ruins everything.

This is just begging for a drawfag to enlist Pepe in the YPG.

Find a really, really deep hole and go die in it, muke

I was referring to this picture.

I think you need to chill comr8.

Of course she had to put that in, otherwise faggots like yourself would of just bawled your little eyes out.

tbh i'm very happy with my beliefs being portrayed like that

How am I getting hate for complimenting some OC.

Ffs leftypol.

DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS DIE PIGS

Autists mang autists.

Because you completely misinterpreted the OC. All you seemed to get from it was an anti-anarchist message, when I think it's pretty obvious that it's critizing whiney cupcucks like yourself, and then taking a little jab at the people who were a little too zealous with their celebrations of the killings.

Lets look at what I said then shall we?

The part that apparently makes me misinterpret the OC is an off hand comment at the end. Apparently though that off hand comment was all I got from it.

Ah, yet another person who straight up didnt listen to my video clearly say we need to use violence against the police. That's refreshing.

Catgrill drawfag = best drawfag.

Hell if anything what this OC says aligns with what I was trying to say in my video perfectly. It's likely my fault for being bad at getting it across, but still .

Yeah, nah.

Awesome stuff as per usual

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holy fucking shit

Would cuddle/10

Funny that the stark divide between older leftists and newer ones would understand this in a completely different way:

janinebooth.com/content/marxism-and-autism-there-spectrum-haunting-europe

Or maybe it's just a normie/not normie thing.

top fucking kek
I hope Holla Forums doesn't find this

We need to standardize Alunya's outfit. There's too many images with different outfits out there and too much confusion over her ideology - which according to the original creator is supposed to be ideologically neutral.

strawpoll.me/10726186

In addition to this, we need to give Alunya a Marxist reference as a last name to counter the obvious anarchist reference to Catalonia as her fist name. Any suggestions?

Does it have to be standardized because you want whoever is making the content that Alunya appears in to be approved by the denizens of leftypol to represent them?

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just leave it to catgirl drawfag, and then for other oc we can just do whatever

How about you make your own fucking comic?

Marxism.
Not even once.

yes, we should actually standardize the entire artstyle of all Holla Forums memes and comics. we'll call it "shitposter realism"

I know the creator intended for that, but when I see her, it just screams anarchist. She's a sabotage cat. Don't Marxists have Rodina for that?

The thing is that Rodina isn't a Holla Forums character. She's the mascot of a whole other imageboard.

So?
Holla Forumslina didn't originate on Holla Forums.
They still fucking use her.

Oh shit, Rodina is getchan's mascot? Isn't that board dead?

Well yes, but that's really neither here nor there.

they basically merged into Holla Forums and bunkerchan and we slowly adopted their shit

what shit? What happened to them?

Well, I mean, the board itself still exists, but yeah, mostly this.

Mostly a shit ton of raids that caused people to leave to efchan, Bunkerchan, and Holla Forums.

No standardizing. Anyone willing to drawfag can add their own ideas to her, her design, her personality, even any lore or history. The board can decide by which versions influence the most OC among other anons. That's what I like about board-tans and related characters, they always have new ideas and new takes by different drawfags and writefags and whatnot. If you have different view of a board-tan than others, you can try to make your own OC.
Anyways, I'm fine with Alunya being a bit more anarchist leaning, while Rodina acts as her Marxist foil. They make a good duo, and fits with my view of Alunya being the younger but more hot tempered one.

And? Aren't we pretty much good friends with each other anyway

Yeah, here's one. m.youtube.com/watch?v=TVYwVQ8huzs

Fucking glorious work Comrade

No fuk off, Alunya is whoever Holla Forums decides she is at the time, and any Artist can contribute to that process however they want.

When are we going to come up with some cool more formal internet leftist dynamic organization. Like, we make these people read some shit before being able to join and we test them on it.

Of course people can draw whatever they want. What I meant was for official stuff, like the spoiler image.

Yes, but the point is that Rodina wasn't created for the purpose of representing Marxists. This idea that people try to push of Alunya being an anarchist and Rodina representing the Marxists is a pretty bad meme, since that was never the intention to begin with. Especially since it depicts the Marxists as children.

Except in this comic where Rodina is the more mature, less ill-tempered one.

Who gives a shit about original intention?

Rodina is a Marxist, though. Or at least a tankie.

I wasn't referring to the comic at all. I was referring to the fact that anarchists love to claim that the Holla Forums mascot is theirs. Why should Marxists have to use the character of another imageboard?

I always felt they were around the same age. Though some people draw Rodina younger, others prefer her taller thus a bit older or maybe Alunya is just a late bloomer. Just another example of the flexibility of board tans
On a related note, Alunya being shortfused always made her seem like a stereotypical anarkiddy to me

When alunya was made, this board was majority anarchist.

exactly, and I as an anarchist don't mind that.

Why don't we just start using Rodina as our mascot

That's irrelevant. If we just want to use a Marxist character, who's to say we can't take Ulyana or any of the other Marxist board-tans from the Russian chans?

Then claim her back.
Make her a Marxist.
Until then, she's not.

The board is still majority anarchist.
Indeed, the anarchist majority has grown.

delet this

We've had numerous polls that show the exact opposite.

That was never the case, though. Rodina was modeled after GETchan's former administrator, some Swedish dude (hence the blonde hair and blue eyes) who looked like he was 10 years old (hence why she's a child). She's even wearing the pioneer uniform that was given out to underageb&s on GETchan. It boggles my mind how people can take all of this away and claim it's the same character.

Regardless, she was never meant to be Anarchist.

She's not a Marxist, but she's not an anarchist either.

no. We had one with captcha that showed that there were more anarchists. I'm not being biased. Those were the results of the recent one.

No.
In fact, back in the day, if you only could pick between "anarchist" an "marxist", it leaned slightly in the direction of Marxists.
Now, Marxism is the much broader category, so of course it gets a few more votes, even from people who'd rightfully count as anarchists, but refuse to reject Marx wholesale.

However, the latest poll, with capcha enabled to prevent rigging, it said the opposite.

Okay, so she's just meant to be the most boring un-opinionated character ever.
Great.

If that's how you want to frame it, sure.

/r/iamverysmart

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Can anyone repost previous pics? I'm not sure I've got them all.

Syndicalism should be a mechanic and not an engineer imo

/r/ing stalinism/trotskyism hatefucking

that's human nature you fucking beta faggot

Alunya was collectively created by Holla Forums, that guy was just the first one to draw her. Back then Holla Forums was mostly anarchist and trot, that's why Alunya is clearly an anarchist from the Spanish civil war (Trots supported the anarchists there).

The situationist catgirl is an artist, democratic confedarism is ecology,

Why is nihilism on the right-wing while neoliberal is on the left?

Ground control to Max Stirner

This is a discipline, not an occupation.

I'm not the author, if there is any doubt. I literally requested previous pics in post.

kk.

No idea. StalinCat and AnCapCat standing close don't make you suspicious that catgirl drawfag might've simply put "vaguely don't like" together?

the whole point of me making the image you're using there showing her outfits was the exact opposite, just showcasing the different takes you can do. if anything I'm pissed you removed the note saying to always have the hat cover one of the ears

this is a more relevant point. Personally, I face board-tans almost as mythological characters- easily adaptable to the culture of different peoples. Jesus is Jesus whether black, white, or whatever, so long as he has specific signs. You recognise a depiction of, say, Amun for the plumes in the head, the ankh and the spectre. Or on a political view, Uncle Sam will always be Uncle Sam so long as he's got the hair, beard, and hat.

So in that sense, we see the board mascots follow a similar process. Holla Forums is Holla Forums so long as he's a simple round-headed figure with no ears/nose, thick eyebrows, often angry, often depicted without colour. You can have variants- Punished Holla Forums is one- but generally easy to grasp. Holla Forums is a perfect study of this considering how their indecisiveness has resulted in a whole bunch of variants of Holla Forumsnrad- so long as it looks like someone cosplaying the Spirit, it works. And so on.

Taking this into account, I think the argument that this catgirl depiction of Rodina has lost too many of its identifiers can be made. Depends on what we can agree the identifiers are. And of course, whether that matters. Considering the proficiency of this drawfag and the response she gets, I'd argue it's more likely Rodina'll futurely be defined by this depiction, even if it lacks most of the identifiers (age, size, outfit).

So I decided to look her up on twitter to see if she had any more artwork.

Spoiler she does and it looks great

Anyways, I came upon this vague reference to Holla Forums.

Idk, made me smile for some reason.

I censored out her handle and name. Didn't know if it was quite safe to show knowing how many Holla Forumsyps come around there here parts

She's linked her tumblr here before. But then got spooked by Rodina porn, so maybe she won't be caring to link things so directly again.

also get out of here stalker

Oh no, I didn't do something wierd, did I? :/

youtube.com/watch?v=VHPltbD-4QA

was mocking you a bit, user

I don't know if this was decided by the artist himself since deciding for him is p disrespectful, but consider making the anarchist a law student as well, the zengakuren in Japan, an anarchist organization, is based within the University of Law and organized mostly by law students abit ironic how those that know the current law the most don't want it

But "die" in kraut means "the"
great comic though

This is IRL: Marx was primarily historian, Lenin was a lawyer, Stalin effectively founded (Bolshevik's) Pravda newspaper, Trotsky was in charge of Red Army and commanded it during Civil War, etc.

Her, IIRC.

Also, how can I decide anything, if I'm not the one drawing or paying for drawings? I don't even know what this "Egoism" means (self-insert?).

You people are way too serious.

just bein a bit cautious dawg, just wondering
Egoism refers to Stirner's thought, although tbh there really aren't that many people that call themselves Egoists, the closest main ideology would be anarcho-individualists and post-leftists. pls no meming on post-leftism just because it sounds hostile if you dont know what it means

Suddenly all makes sense.

I'm sure there was some pic I'm missing, but what the hell.

so what *is* meant by 'post-leftism'?

Well, it means a lot of stuff.
Sometimes it means

Sometimes it means

Other times it's

In the worst case it's

or

Let me give a quote of Bob Call the Cops Black

Post-leftist anarchy is positioned to articulate — not a program — but a number of revolutionary themes with contemporary relevance and resonance. It is, unlike Bookchinism, unambiguously anti-political, and many people are anti-political. It is, unlike Bookchinism, hedonistic, and many people fail to see why life is not to be lived enjoyably if it is to be lived at all. It is, unlike Bookchinism, “individualistic” in the sense that if the freedom and happiness of the individual — i.e., each and every really existing person, every Tom, Dick and Murray — is not the measure of the good society, what is? Many people wonder what’s wrong with wanting to be happy. Post-leftist anarchy is, unlike Bookchinism, if not necessarily rejective, then at least suspicious of the chronically unfulfilled liberatory promise of high technology. And maybe most important of all is the massive revulsion against work, an institution which has become less and less important to Bookchin at the same time it’s become more and more important, and oppressive, to people outside academia who actually have to work. Most people would rather do less work than attend more meetings. Which is to say, most people are smarter, and saner, than Murray Bookchin is. Post-leftist anarchists mostly don’t regard our times one-dimensionally, as either a “decadent, bourgeoisified era” (1) of “social reaction” (9) or as the dawning of the Age of Aquarius. They tend toward pessimism, but not usually as much as the Dean does. The system, unstable as ever, never ceases to create conditions which undermine it. Its self-inflicted wounds await our salt. If you don’t believe in progress, it’ll never disappoint you and you might even make some progress.

Post Left is mostly Anti Work, Critical towards Technology, Anti Moral, Individualistic, Anti Society, Anti Idealogy, Critical towards Democracy, Apolitical, left critical and hedoistic. Post Left is the natural progression of Individualism moving away from the idealogical conscription of being a leftist.

You know nothing about post left anarchy fam.

How will Alunya react to your fetish?

she IS my fetish

Please.

Somebody acknowledge my OC.

It is all I have done today.

witnessed

The only thing remarkable about post-leftism is how it's doing nothing and going nowhere.

Just as planned.

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spooky scary/10

wouldn't have changed the comma after "ah ha", but otherwise, nice work user

Whoah jeez this blew up when I was sleeping ok let me try to catch up:

This is a delightful treat to wake up to after the crushing Bernie news, thank you user.

keep the irony coming fam, so many layers to go

Wew fam, cant go around that logic haha :^)

Considering there's little lore to go on other than a bunch of subjective anecdotes I wouldn't sweat too much about the personality details either.

you should make a titoist and a juche kot

I like the changes. The character is way better than the original and I suspect that this lanky-goodie-two-shoes is probably the future definitive version. No need to change anything you're doing.
The reason perhaps you're meeting a little resistance is that people are much more willing to give criticism when they dislike something than they are willing to give praise when they like something.
Therefore, there's probably like five people who likes it but doesn't say anything each time there's someone coming up with criticism. This is also reflected in the replies to some of these criticisms. So you're doing good.

YES OMG ANARCHIST LAWYER CHARACTER FTW!

Probably would lead into shennanigans when confronting an Egoist that holds that laws are just words on a paper and generally does not represent the Will of anyone but the functionaries of the state.

Pick one

before someone ruins it at least

She's fine.
Creative liberty is fine.

I don't want to kill anyone… I only want to line up certain groups of people against a wall and have them shot.

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY PAPERS THAT ALIENATE ME AND HAVE BECOME OUR GOD!

I kinda figured the Marxist and the egoist were teachers

If you drew these, then great job. Pretty adorbs.

Catgrill senpai, it would be cool if you allowed guest strips when the site comes up. Kinda like Cyanide and Happiness. You'll have veto power for everything of course. Maybe any comrade on leftypol who wants their comic to appear on your site can post their strip on the OC threads for peer review, and if the strip gains more popularity outsiders can email you and shit. Maybe you can other comrades to help you with this shit.

Sound good? I'll be here for any suggestions. Any comrade with comments/ideas can speak up too.

put simply, I would still say its a leftist movement as it still calls for the abolition of property and all that, but is also intended to be critical of traditional leftist stances, particularly ML and certain anarchist ideologies. It's heavily influenced by Stirner and the individual anarchists, as well as the situationists.

Let's not dissolve this based thread into a shouting match, its pointless discussing theory on Holla Forums when noones read anything.

I would say itd be nice to make Alyuna and Rodina as sort of ambiguous in their beliefs beyond simply being leftist, and they go around learning, adopting, and criticizing the various other ideologies.

an anarchist obsessed with the intricacies and history of law and using her knowledge of it to BTFO everyone, but also hating the shit out of it would be awesome law tsundere?

I think the cast should be gradually introduced, one ideology at a time.

You're extremely talented and this has a lot of potential, keep it at whatever pace you're comfortable and I'm sure this will be the best fucking thing ever

to add one last suggestion, I think it's just as important to point out various criticisms of leftist ideologies, both because it allows us to reflect and understand the limitations of our ideas and anticipate possible counterarguments by reactionaries, and so that it doesn't descend into a circlejerk.
That being said, it shouldn't descend into just meme stereotype criticisms like "haha marxists think only economy matters" or "herpderp anarchists are a bunch of kids"

I have no mouth, and I must Bern.

these are badass ideas, ty!!

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Honestly her changes are so extreme that it doesn't make sense for it to be the same character. I'd either recommend reverting her to her original design (except maybe cat-ified) or just rename her altogether.

I honestly have no problem with the way you've depicted her. What you did in the previous comic where she weighed the good and bad things about the cop killings is the way to go, imho. She should be sort of Holla Forums's general ideology, so to speak. You've done quite a good job with that. As long as she's not assigned to any specific ideology, then all should be good.

no keep this rodina, it's not like the original mascots had any personalities so to speak before
you couldn't have a ten year old in this type of setting anyway

We'd better start cooking up some ideas for a new name, then.

no, it could be an older rodina
it's not like there's intellectual property to violate here

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People have different interpretations of the same character, not a big problem imo

10/10

Did someone just say "Spooks?"

Dank

The series of graphic novels this is from is reactionary as hell. Not saying it shouldn't be used, just throwing it out there.

what's it called and what is it about?

fun fact, my brother made the first perry bible fellowship comic, along with a couple other of the early ones. I saw Nicholas Gurewitch at a party about a week and a half ago at a party.

It's called Fables, and it's about if fairytale people were real. The wolf among us by telltale is based off of it.

ah
yeah the entire farm arc is pure reactionary drivel but bigby is still cool tho

But creator incorporates his zionist views into it, dedicates a whole book to a really shitty animal farm analogy, makes spirited defenses of the free market. I could go on for awhile.

The whole thing is, fam. I loved it to death when I was younger and wasn't class-conscious. I re-read a lot of recently and had to stop because I couldn't look past all the shit I didn't notice before.

what happened comrade

Any gems you remember I can use? If you can remember any particularly memeworthy scenes and have a copy it would save me a lot of time.

What happened there? Just a case of drifting away from the project?

Is it really a problem if he uses a fictional setting as a backdrop for his beliefs though? I mean so much of Holla Forums is absolute fantasy it seems like a good setting to place their works.

hot oc coming through,
youtube.com/watch?v=LpCTbblfNLk

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Dank, but she's not supposed to be treading, per the motto.

What if I'm for treading on lolberts?

another version

Noice

Nigga that's the point.

Pure revisionism.

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Great blog tbh

Music blasting Bunker Commune when?

underrated post

boop

thanks, user