WW3 WHEN?

U.S. weighs tougher response to Russia over Syria crisis: officials

Obama administration officials have begun considering tougher responses to the Russian-backed Syrian government assault on Aleppo, including military options, as rising tensions with Moscow diminish hopes for diplomatic solutions from the Middle East to Ukraine and cyberspace, U.S. officials said on Wednesday.

The new discussions were being held at "staff level," and have yet to produce any recommendations to President Barack Obama, who has resisted ordering military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the country's multisided civil war.

But the deliberations coincide with Secretary of State John Kerry threatening to halt diplomacy with Russia on Syria and holding Moscow responsible for dropping incendiary bombs on rebel areas of Aleppo, Syria’s largest city. It was the stiffest U.S. warning to the Russians since the Sept. 19 collapse of a truce they jointly brokered.

Even administration advocates of a more muscular U.S. response said on Wednesday that it was not clear what, if anything, the president would do, and that his options "begin at tougher talk," as one official put it.

One official said that before any action could be taken, Washington would first have "follow through on Kerry’s threat and break off talks with the Russians" on Syria.

But the heavy use of Russian airpower in Syria has compounded U.S. distrust of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s geopolitical intentions, not only in the 5-1/2 year civil war, but also in the Ukraine conflict and in what U.S. officials say are Russian-backed cyber attacks on U.S. political targets.

The U.S. officials said the failure of diplomacy in Syria has left the Obama administration no choice but to consider alternatives, most of which involve some use of force and have been examined before but held in abeyance.

These include allowing Gulf allies to supply rebels with more sophisticated weaponry, something considered more likely despite Washington’s opposition to this until now. Another is a U.S. air strike on an Assad air base, viewed as less likely because of the potential for causing Russian casualties, the officials told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The options being weighed are limited in number and stop well short of any large-scale commitment of U.S. troops, which Obama, who has only four months left in office, has long rejected, the officials said.

Critics of Obama's policy in Syria argue that he set a goal - Assad's departure - without providing sufficient means to achieve it by arming the rebels earlier and more extensively, allowing U.S. allies to do so or using U.S. military might to tip the scales in the conflict.

Further, foreign policy experts inside and outside the administration have said Obama erred when he pulled back from launching air strikes on Syria to enforce a "red line" he set against the Assad government's use of chemical weapons. The result, they argued, was to diminish U.S. credibility in Moscow, Damascus and elsewhere because the perception took hold that Obama would not keep his word and follow through on his threat.

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U.S. ADMINISTRATION CAUGHT OFF-GUARD

Two U.S. officials said the speed with which the Syrians have advanced in Aleppo and the diplomatic track has collapsed caught some in the administration off guard. The fall of Aleppo would restore Assad’s rule over western Syria’s most important city and deal a devastating blow to the rebels.

As a result, one of the officials said, the list of options is narrowing to supporting rebel counter attacks elsewhere with additional weaponry or even air strikes, which "might not reverse the tide of battle, but might cause the Russians to stop and think."

Another official said any weapons supplies would not include shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles, or Manpads, which the Obama administration fears could fall into the hands of Islamic State militants or al Qaeda-linked groups.

The most dramatic option under consideration – but considered less likely – would be a U.S. air strike on a Syrian air base far from the fighting between Assad’s troops and rebel forces in the north, officials said.

Other ideas under consideration include sending more U.S. special operations forces to train and advise Kurdish and Syrian rebel groups, and deploying additional American and allied naval and airpower to the eastern Mediterranean, where a French aircraft carrier is already en route.

U.S. officials had considered a humanitarian airlift to rebel-held areas, which would require escorts by U.S. warplanes, but this has been deemed too risky and has been "moved down the list," one official said.

State Department spokesman John Kirby said on Wednesday that U.S. officials involved in the interagency process that deals with national security had discussed other Syria options "that don't revolve around diplomacy." He declined to elaborate.

U.S. officials cautioned that no decisions were imminent with Defense Secretary Ash Carter traveling and Obama and other senior officials planning to attend former Israeli leader Shimon Peres’s funeral in Israel on Friday.

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YES GOY HAVE A THERMONUCLEAR WAR BECAUSE WE NEED TO REPLACE SOME GOATFUCKERS THAT DON'T ALLOW US TO BUILT AN OIL PIPELINE WITH SOME GOATFUCKERS THAT WILL ALLOW IN THE MIDDLE OF GOATMIDDLEASTFUCKINGSTAN
Can we just nuke ME and send in teams in protections suits and robots to collect the oil?

Bomb them them to smithereens, based Assad.

What is the point of all this death over the ambitions of one conceited woman?

To allow destabilization globally in order for mass destruction of the earth to enable the United Nations to enact Agenda 2030, and corral what's left of humanity into postapocalyptic compounds run by Jews.

The Jew's end goal is to control all non-jewish goyim, who will become a mixed breed slave race as is the current trend via immigration and open degeneracy, and use them for slave labor and profit while Jews stay on the very top. Then their end-of-days Biblical act will supposedly allow Satan into the world to destroy us all.

This plan is outlined in The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion.

bump

Just say
NO, NIGGER
like we did in 2013

This will end with a lot of Ivans and Amis dead.
I love it!

D.A.K. 16 10 16

Der Ausbruch des Krieges.

16 October 2016.

Two weeks remain.

it's always been about the oil pipeline through syria, same as with the sandpit and poppy fields

fucking jews, man

When Trump mysteriously shots himself in the back at a random empty wasteland and Hillary is the only candidate left, becomes president and fuck everything like her husband in a brazillian carnival.

nah.
that's stupid.
you're stupid.

Around the elections, obviously.

How about we drop oil altogether like adults and move onto the big boy power resources.

Dropping oil won't change the situation. This is about business, but mainly about control and muh weapon waving.

There's always gonna be other thing they can articulate the need of overstretching military. It can still be oil itself, because they gonna get all rubber and it threatens the freedumbs!

shut the hell up, libcuck.

REEEEEEEEEEE JUST FUCKING STOP KIKES JUST STOP OKAY WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER FUCKING WAR NOBODY GIVES A SHIT WHAT THE FUCKING RUSSIANS DO IN MUDSHITDESERTSTAN JUST LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE WHY CAN'T THESE FUCKING KIKES JUST LEAVE US ALONE

Fusion?
10 years till next "operational" reactor, while we went from zero to 100% for the nuclear bomb in the same time. Quite some years ago. 1930s/40s.
How would kikes rule, if not with finite sources? We are being retarded(actual sense of the word) for 60 years now. Just to plant that flag on the moon, goy.

This. Thorium Power Plant powered electric cars, preferably made by a rejuvenated Nationalist Ford company, with its current board and CEO exiled or done away with.

If the US was interested in self preservation, it would have started the process of reducing oil consumption after realizing how unreliable the Middle East was during the 1973 oil crisis while increasing its own oil production at any cost. Instead the US learned nothing and quickly forgot that it even happened, let alone why.

I can't tell if you're a neocon or a Saudi sympathizer.

Think maybe we need to do a "test launch".

Being realistic, you can't think about using anything that's not oil powered for the next 15-25 years. The fusion or thorium meme may be great, but until you're ready to replace your entire military with it, you're still stuck with oil during that transition period, which is why it's hard to fathom how that transition period wasn't the 1980s, 1990s or even 2000s.

If we had our own nation, we'd be oil free and full Nuclear within a decade. The Germans managed to pull off a far greater feat than what we've been considering.

If you want to talk about that then it comes down to whether you believe that the US has already researched alternative energy resources and has purposefully kept it secret. I find it hard to believe that the race for technology stopped after the Nazis were stopped.

I guess the "October Surprise" this time will the last one in this civilization's history. Because it's obvious what all this will lead to. The situation is already at brinkmanship, it's one called out bluff away from spiraling out of control.

The Russians are the dumbest anything in existence.

They could easily avoided everything if they just went and said "attacks on Syria = we nuke".

WE BOSOM BUDDIES WITH ISIS NOW

then what, nukes?
maybe you're the dumbest anything

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The U.S will call it a bluff regardless and still attack anyway. There's a good reason why such threats of escalation like that aren't done, it's either ineffective or suicidal. A better threat would be deploying AAs over as much of Syria they can and impose a no-fly zone on U.S aircraft.

This may be a sign that the kikes believe Trump will win and thus want their puppet to launch an attack before he takes office.

If Hillary gets in it will be business as usual.

Wouldn't be the first time, brinksmanship is a science at this point.

No one said no to King nigger.

It isn't even an oil pipeline, but a natural gas one from Qatar.

It started with the death of Gaddaffi, we are just getting into the world powers confronting each other phases.

ISIS IS OUR ALLY WHEN

We actually, literally created ISIS. None of this vacuum shit. King nigger and Clinton created ISIS. King nigger currently funds, arms, and trains ISIS.

All obama had to dindu was nuffin.

Could have just let Assad stop the rebellion, and restore order, and return to being the fourth, maybe fifth shittiest country in the general area. Could have spared Europe an invasion of migrants. Could have been over in 2012.

But no. This was never about peace, or stability, or human life.

The military needs to arrest every single congressman, the president, and every unconstitutional alphabet agency. #RedpillMilitary2016.

You would have chaffetz and gowdy arrested?

True.

And many - even here - still believe that this is just another day in the life of an empire…

What's so important about Syria?
They don't have giant oil reserves like nearby countries, russia has ONE naval base there, and they haven't been aggressive towards their neighbors.
Why is Syria worth global total war?

DEMOCRACY.

Go look up the Yinon plan.

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Wrong.

It's very effective and it can be suicidal which creates a line in Syria that shouldn't be crossed.

The globalist kikes will push some US/EU/Turkish goyim over the line just to get some media ammo. Watch this space.

Wasn't there a story recently that was only covered by Iranian news sources regarding top brass of ISIS (featuring Israeli and Western soldiers) being killed in a cave by Russian rocket attacks? That tidbit of information adds a great deal of clarity to this situation, as the top brass of ISIS that knew the whole strategy of American intent were all killed, and now suddenly the US is considering more direct action in the place where their favorite rebel army is fighting a losing battle against Russia and Syria.

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civil war

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Start at 4:05

This is just sabre rattling. The US isnt going to risk open warfare with russia because its proxy war is failing. Besides, this would be an illegal war in every sense of the word. They would recieve little backing from allies.

There certainly was, you might be on to something there.

how long ago?

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I know I have

seriously, I don't understand why more pollacks haven't read this, this is the jews ultimate plan.

Last week.


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Kill em all.

1) They know Trump is going to win
2) they're trying to get Obama to start a nuclear war on the way out the door, which hes not about to do even if they threaten to kill his entire family and out him as a homosexual, Obama could really give less of a fuck about anything right now except securing his position as Speaker of the UN and hes not going to do that by ending the world.


Its the establishment in its death throws screaming at us that they'll destroy it before we take our country back.

NOT GUNNA HAPPEN FOLKS, BELIEVE ME

And just what makes you think that Trump is not establishment?

Retard.

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What makes you think they would spend millions, escalate a war and create a mess for him to clean if he was?

The first year of his presidency is already ruined, he will have to deal with domestic terrorism in BLM, probably will need to get rid of the biased media, and on top of that fight a war or make concessions to russia and syria.

Because Jewish funding of the republican party dried up by %94

It's not just about the fuel source, you fucking newfags. US currency is based around the buying and selling of oil. That's why the kikes killed Saddam and Gaddafi, they were attempting to sell oil and resources to other countries in other currencies, and that's a big no-no. The USD is alive right now only because oil is only bought and sold in USD.


This is entry level stuff dudes. Get with it

the gift that keeps on giving

Ruined? No.

It sounds GREAT

It's not so much that the US relies on it as it's that the US is making a conscious choice.

They are choosing to base a bulk of the currency on the oil trade from sandniggers. Because the US could do without it, but they choose to get entangled there to control the steps of Eurasian countries (even Japan) and to not let anyone in Europe be the guy that goes out act in the forefront (they intervened two times in Europe to not let a power from there take the helms). It's basically the annoying bitch that wants to meddle with everyone.

I'm looking forward to taking revenge on the cucks.

Sending all the Mud back is expensive, so it's best to use the previous private wealth of the anti-whites to pay for it.

because oil is gallon for gallon the most efficient energy source
More importantly it's about geopolitics and obtaining global hegemony for the US

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Samantha Power needs to be hung from a tree.

The establishment wants to start a war and suspend elections.

We must insure this does not happen and stall for time so Trump may enter office!

In short, jews in charge of US policy are teaching the US to act like jews.