Hi. /liberty/fag here

C-can I be the one sticking it in your pooper?

Maybe I would think this is true, if every single socialist revolution or attempt to formulate a socialist society was not sabotaged and crushed by the capitalist within the same society. I don't care what you think, I care what the richest lolbert thinks. And he is going to want to expand his capital and increase his profits. That's why we see lolbert heroes like Mises saying fascism might not be a bad idea if it can preserve capitalism. The capitalist has shown time and time again that socialism can't exist on the land he inhabits or overseas. Can a fascist coexist with a democracy right next to them? No, the struggle with always be bloody.

You can try and be nice and friendly, and just act like you're looking for simple dialectic exchange but when the time comes(if it does), you WILL have to pick a side.

kok tep

I'm not worked up dude. I'm just saying, those who are serious about leftism are not your friends. And even though people here are more civil than Holla Forums. they are not your friends.

We are both hunters looking for prey. We can't hunt each other, at least not without fighting, much blood and tears. I think we shouldn't view each other as potential prey.

That's only the self-interest of the wealthy speaking. They are not ideologically commited to anything.

Exactly like the republican tea party farmer in the midwest, who is going to react with the same ferocity when someone is coming for his guns again, when you suggest to him that his agricultural subsidies are not very free market.

It's just selfishness.

Anyway enough of that.

No one is mad, this is simple constatation and anticipation.

I thought most the people on /liberty/ were liberals?
Ah well.

Glad to hear it friend; ignore the people here who want an echo chamber

You mean classical liberals?

Well I am a voluntarist, so I guess I am more or less a liberal. Or subcategory of liberal. Idc

Exactly. And capitalism is a system founded on selfishness. I don't care what you think, I care what the wealthy in the capitalist society think. Capitalism is all about the self interest of the wealthy. That's why private property exist.

As stated above, no one is mad. We are saying we can't coexist. You can cling to your lolbert fantasy where the socialist commune coexist with the capitalist society with an elite class, but time has shown that the interest of the wealthy or the le "job creators" in the capitalist have overrides your utopian ideals.

I'm a lefty too, I'm just not autistic enough to threaten anonymous people on the internet.

They are liberals! Stop being a fucking yank!

I'm not threatening him. I'm telling him that we will never coexist and he can come here and debate us all he wants but we aren't allies just because we don't call him a nigger.

We're not, but it's inevitable. Revolution is violent. That's just how it is.

Shh, it's okay. I won't use violence against you. You are safe in my arms.

That's fine. But we also think that in your society inevitably, the capitalist class or those who own the private property will. It's not you in particular I'm opposed to, it's what your ideology breeds and has bred. If it weren't for you, we could have successful socialism by now.

Funny because because most people outside tend to think this place is mostly liberals :^)

It's cool to talk with people of different worldviews on anonymous imageboards.
But that doesn't mean everything will go as smoothly outside of anonymous imageboards.
Sweetalking doesn't really work when shit hits the fan. This no threat nor being edgy, it's common sense.
Still happy to talk here with you tough.

Awwwwww :3

I'll make sure you are last on the wall

Not an argument

English is weird having no seperate 2nd person plural form of you.

Anyway I hope you recongize that If "my system" won, then you would be free to live in any sort of socialist commune you can envision and the only violence I will use against you is to give you a long loving hug.

Again, I am not worried about you specifically. I'm worried about what the elites of your society think. Two antithetical philosophies can't coexist.

Couldn't agree more.

If your system prevent megacorporations from happening, maybe, but i doubt it.

You can exist under mine though. It doesn't even have to be "under" me. Think of my prefered system as empty land and you as the house.

I'd probably be part of some kind of socialist like program in my anarchist/voluntarist utopia.

I don't view our philsophies as antithetical at all. I actually think of them as complementary.

that's lewd,
I like it

It's y'all

But bruh, co-ops are outcompeted by private industries that extract greater surplus value when the labor market goes even slightly monopsonistic, which is inherent in labor specialization under capital. It is necessary that we abolish the systematic use of force in creating and maintaining property rights for a truly voluntary choice to enter a worker-owned business. You don't really think that workers' democracy is made impossible by the government as an autonomous self-serving entity, rather than who it represents, do you baby?

I don't think the "capitalists" can make that impossible without goverment.

You could have like a giant socialist commune, like old time think paris, again, bae.

Superior French and German have Vous et Ihr, one specific word dedicated. English a shit.

Something that just popped in my mind, would a similar situation happens between workers working alone and cooperatives?

what is a co-op?

Hahahahaha this

You is in fact a plural version that become singular, didn't thou know that?

No

A Co-Opperative.
A buissiness run by the workers and so on.

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I want to collectivise OP's boypussy :3

Gross, i bet he poops from there.

Thou art right. Have me excused for commiting such a blunder.

I am going to stab you with my holy spear if you try and commit gorilla wellfare in your rear.

This is really good

This is an important point, and for that I turn your attention to the modern-day drug cartel.
"Legitimate" government has categorically rejected their property rights and representing their interests in legislation or enforcement. The response is easy to predict - the cartel builds a "government" (in the sense of a local monopoly on the use of force) of its own to violently protect its property, suppress free competition, inflate prices, and facilitate trade (smuggling, in this case.) It's certainly less efficient than using a current government (which is why GM does not have an armed wing)
Really the day-to-day reality of capitalism is an accumulation of market power and ever tighter suppression of the free market. Capitalists presuppose and generate the state.

ayy lmao

you lewd thing you!

Come on, let me fill your boipuss with the power of dialetics ;3

I will go hunt with you, but if you make remarks like that again, you will be the one being hunted. ;)

Is that an elaborate way of saying you don't like it in the ass?

You figured it out. Congratz.

Now en garde! Don't let our swords cross!

;_;
I guess I must try seducing a Holla Forumsack instead

C-can I be hunted, sempai?

Yeah, if you try to argue with a Holla Forums they will just accuse you of being a defeatist shill or a jew. It's really sad.

Is the Creative nothing CHIM?

Good luck with those closet homos on the alt-right.

You want to be hunted?

Well normally all I would say is to be careful to cross my sight and if you do, then to run away as fast as possible, so I won't catch up with you and violently mate with you, drag you back to my cave and corpulate with you again and again for hours.
But since you want it, I guess all you have to do is to cross my line of sight.

youtube.com/watch?v=9lyKxKn_WsE

this

youtube.com/watch?v=-MnhhBoioCI

why in the fuck are we still unable to embed video.

It's like you've never been on /cuteboys/ or /lgbt/

I actually have and you are right.
I just wouldn't go to Holla Forums's Holla Forums.

/cuteboys/ is alt-right as absolute fuck.
I almost wanted to change my views to score a qt like john from chicago

The word is THAN.

Here, have some Spooner.

youtube.com/watch?v=aDfWCX5O-oo

Nothing wrong with playing for the other ideological bent to get laid.

You'll find it easy to bridge the gaps in ideology, besides, a lot of them want a long term committed relationship, and are thus far more interested in holding your attention & comfort than dumping you over ideological concerns.

Love before logic, cumrag.

Are there any dating sites with politics as a theme? Something like christian dating, but for retards arguing on the internet

Verdammt.

You know I often make that mistake.

stop sounding so lovely

you just found it, I guess

I have no idea. I heard cuteboys has like a map or something where everyone can input his contact details and general location

I know about it, but /cuteboys/ aren't about politics. Is hitting on Holla Forums posters the only way I could get a commie bf/gf?

Boyfriend? Yes. Girfriend? Ehh, I doubt it, just because there aren't that many and she probably doesn't live where you live.

At this point I don't even care about genitals anymore ;_;

With that attitude you'll get neither. Girl would just go for someone else. And cuteboys would probably at most just have sex with you once.

But I feel you, because I am the same.
Well maybe not exactly the same. I am pretty confident in who I want and what I am willing to do. (I won't suck you off or take it from behind) And other than probably you, I go beyond femboys and trannies and would even consider not only twinks, but even somewhat twinkish looking guys. I am 22 atm, so I wouldn't go for older middle-aged or too big dudes. I would only mire them, nothing more.

Same for me.
I never implied I wouldn't mind fugging something manlier

Last I checked there for porn and a lot just mope about being treated like a fetish, they're not all into the pump and dump and getting tired of men leaving them for women.

Do you want to get cucked? Because that's how you get cucked.

then what the fuck would we even do to each other?

just cuddle?

I guess thigh sex like the old greeks. LOL

I think I would't leave him. Especially since I am not just into traps or super feminine twinks, but go a lot further, just not sexually, than a lot of desperate straight fags.

I think he is going to cuck someone else.

/leftyboys/ when?

To get cucked you have to… Get cucked.

Which either means cuckolding or allowing refugees to rape your citizenry.

I dunno man, not wanting to suck trap dick? That just sounds gay. But I'm sure you can go there, find someone on the big map that will accept your limitations if it means a shot at commitment.

Just try, and that's also good that your standards are broad.

Wtf has this thread become???
I mean, I don't care about your shit, but oh boy, if a Holla Forumsack saw this… hahaha

I just can't do it, mate. I never once fantasized about that. It's always me being dominant. Submissive really only when I get ridden like a bull on its back or something like that.

I was surprised by myself that I would even be okay with hairly legs and asses.

I don't mind handjob, since it can be done from the equal position

How is wanting to fuck somebody regardless of genitals related to getting cucked?

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It entails a dangerous transition to post-genital sexuality and postmodern fetishism, privileging the situationally erotic over the objectively. This loss of agency constitutes cucking.

Actual literal cucking is also an example

wat?

can I still have your thighs please?

Honestly, even though I'm vehemently against all of liberalism which would of course include /liberty/'s ideology, the people there, at least from these threads, seem to be way more civil and not really even obnoxious. /pol is fucking unbearable and just straight out annoying. It's too bad we'll have to get rid of all the liberals when the time comes though. In the meantime, we can relax

But we brought you so many goodies from since the englightenment.

Like free love, end to arranged marriages, individualism, free choice of trade, securalism, serperation of church and state :DD

bls dunt kil me :DD Il suk ur dik :DDD okay nat rly, but I but it in yur pooper :DD

You want a fucking wedgie, nerd?

Lolwat
I'd wager that my desire is just a sexual realisation of will to power, in which the genitals are simply secondary to the fact of penetration itself, I honestly still don't see how it places me in the position of cuckold

I'm never in a receiving position! Besides you said you wouldn't mind "getting ridden like a bull on its back"

You think this flag's ironic? I am Holla Forums.

more of a courtesy than a submissive thing. Particularly with them on their back moaning.

Plenty of ways to suck dick from a dominant position- never know until you try, I guess.

ugh, body hair almost ruined a great JAV flick for me. Almost.

How?

I don't deny the merits of liberalism and the works of early liberals, but we've had liberalism for a while now and we can do better.

Hahaha never mind then. So what is this, a bunch of liberals, socialists and fascists discussing sexual fantasies?

Laying them on their back. From behind while they're face down. Hanging them upside down.

Holding them upside down.

And if they're flexible you can put their head between their ankles.

And ropes, all sorts of possibilities open up with ropes.

Hell if I know. I'm just opinionated.

So you don't want a blowjob? :^)

You misundertand. It's a different kind of bull riding.

I really can't do it, mate. sorry

And I heard that courtesy spiel a lot, so I guess girls and self-hating trans-girls it's going to be … sigh. Or I hope they won't change their mind like one month into the relationship and expect me to try it.

I am okay with it. But only tolerating okay. So I still would be able to get it up for my boyfriend in the zombie apocalypse.

Well at least you're allowed and not purged when talking about that shit here.

Pretty clever, although the act of fellatio itself is not acceptable for me

Receiving in the ass, don't be so play semantics on me you dweeb

Fug, didn't mean to sage

Get out you reactionary cunt REEEEEEE

Definitely this. Edge them for hours, deny them, do some serious post-orgasm shit until they're flailing around against the ropes, etc.
It's made more degrading by the fact that fellatio is generally regarded as a submissive act. It's kinda like getting your ass kicked by a 110 pound guy who plays league all day.

Would you give me a handjob if I didn't want to give you one? :^)

What are you going to do about it nerd?

Not too much then, do you even mutual aid?

I don't know, but it's kinda hot to see you concentrate on just me.

As long as you're up front it's fine.

Plenty of subs would be fine with just prostate orgasms.

Degeneracy of this level really has no place there.

Holla Forums is for reactionaries and complaining, any kind of sexual exploration would just feel out of place.

Unless it's another thread on reducing porn consumption.

Besides, cognitive dissonance has its uses, one need not always agree completely or only align with people that will protect your every self interest.

Thank you, thank you. I try to be creative as possible when it comes to considering sex acts.

Though in truth I just abstain to avoid the complications of dealing with people.

Hermit life ain't easy.

Hemp rope has its advantages for BDSM, less slack.

There's also a few full length videos under the title Bondage Tranny.

Jerking you off for the sake of doing it sounds boring as shit.

thanks for giving me hope, I appreciate what you are doing

well technically it's not jerking off, it's a handjob, unless that is what you're telling your guy friends
you are "jerking off together" with each one using each other's hands

that being said, I dont think I would enjoy handjobs very much

I'm gonna kick you in the balls :D

It's a matter of practice, and it's easier when you're a dominant type. I did a few fuck-ups when I started talking on all those fancy dating sites in the beginning, but once I get a hold of it, it got really simple.

This thread is full of homos and yet, you're biggest faggot so far

Isn't handjob basically jerking off another person? I'm not an expert when it comes to terminology

Idk either, but I meant it as a no homo joke.

Like you are not gay, because you just helped each other masturbate, isntead of having sex.

It's not homo as long as you aren't a catamite
t. roman

calling dips on being top

fuck off propertarian nerd, only truEGOISTS can be top

I guess I am an egoist then.

After all this is exactly what an egoist would do. :^)

How quaint. You believe there's a boundary between your mind and the rest of the universe.

Are you sure? I recall you subscribe to some of /liberty/'s spooky ideas, don't you?

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depending on your definition of belief and subscribe, you may argue that I actually don't and just have a preference for them

I mean I can't prove that it's objective morality after all.

Also after all I am still fine with urban exploration, while some libertarians probably would argue that this is trespassing and should always be respected (and I deserve to be shot for trespassing xD)

Sure and that's why I like to service you as a loving, but dominant top boyfriend

But nothing stops you from taking dicks in the ass, darling

Is this the Sodomy general Thread?

yes, Holla Forums without the spook of degeneracy

I'd say private property rights, the basic tenet of right-libertarianism, aren't too useful from the egoistical perspective unless you are some kind of high level bourgeois with lots of shit. But I might be assuming too much

That's the very nature of spooks, yes.

hnnnnng yes pls

I guess. You should remind me to be a better egoist and to not argue that much about ideology. I don't think this is very egoistic of me. I am sleepy as fuck now.

I never quite know how to react to this kind of overly positive reaction, except with:
Come here then, lad.

Just read Stirnir's works.

If one's gonna idealize "the egoist" we want to become, then that is no better than idealizing "man", "revolutionary" or "patriot". It is literaly swaping one spook for the other, one whose cause is worthy of our loyalty.

You know that I said it kinda cheekily, right?

So are you going to read le selfish ghostbuster?

With thouse numbers you got, I pretty much have to now. I was going to do it anyway.

Yeah but Poe's law is in action.

I wasn't sure if naked argonian lovers were a winking smiley face or not.

This right here is what makes it all worth it. What good is knowledge if you cant make exclusive jokes?

Good boy!

Anywhere on the pacific northwest? Or am I out of luck

I guess you know now.
And I don't think they are actually lovers, but who knows. I like how it looks like he is just licking the other lizard's face without giving a fuck and the other lizard puts his claw on his face to stop the other lizard, but then just reaches a state of simultaneously passively tolerating and secretly liking it, while still being pushed away from the licking lizard due to the sheer power of the licking action.

Those dubs should clue you in where I am from.But at least you were lucky enough for those double dubs.

Why live?

Italy/Switzerland?
Taiwan?
Or do you mean Holla Forums?

I love it

There are only two ways in which we can account for a necessary agreement of faggotry with the concepts of its objects: either faggotry makes these concepts possible or these concepts make faggotry possible.

No, it's Germany you dummy.

The debates here are better than other places I debated on, but they are still shitty debates.

I'll make up some numbers here.

90% posters cannot form proper political arguments on this board.

But 99.999% of posters cannot form proper arguments on other boards.

Too bad the mods here delete most of the debate threads.

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Well hey, thanks for the kind words.

look into libertarian socialism please. In my personal opinion it gives a comprehensive strategy to achieving The true Liberty you seek. I used to be libertarian, once you realise that liberation can only come with the abolition of property rights and the democratisation of all business endeavours, then you realise the true path to human liberation

Make This Thread Great leftists and rightists and nazis talking about fugging each other xDDDDDDDD Again

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