Good character horrible origin story

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Spoiler that ya stupid idiot

You don't like muffins?

The 80's GI Joe Sunbow Cartoon Cobra Commander. Fun arrogant incompetent villain. Turns out he's a snake man from Cobra-La who got spores on his face which gave him multiple eyes because he wore no face protection during an experiment.

fuck you you stupid bitch

your anus says otherwise.

heh

Used car salesman Cobra Commander is best Cobra Commander.

DC have refined Batman and Superman's origins to clear cut formula that they can rehash at every opportunity with only minor changes, but Wonder Woman's origin is still a mixture of flunked classical education and a whole lot of nobody cares.

Yeah, Broly's backstory is a bit of shit. It's like some guy's fan character. I mean:

Good thing they made him weaker after Legendary Super Saiyan (Broly's Revenge have him be taken down by 3 characters and Bio-Broly is so weak that 2 kids can beat him)

Nah, I'd say the Sunbow Serpentor is worse. Cobra Commander is at least entertaining..Serpentor is just a dick. (Then again, considering his origin, he might not help being a dick)

it's time they just rebooted her as a man

leave it to comics to cling to stuff that clearly isn't working

The closest there is to a refined origin story for Wonder Woman is as follows:

Brah he's pretty shit.

Actually, that's not fair. I adored him in Revenge, but his original movie felt like angsty fan fiction.

He's better as a big, loud, stompy retard than an edgy, mustache-twirling Shadow the Hedgehog ripoff.

He's just some angry dude that screams "KAKARROT". He's not the least interesting movie villain, but he's nowhere near the best. It also doesn't help that 2/3 of his movies are garbage with the first one just being ok. His design is pretty good though.

I'm not a fan. Second Coming had way bigger problems than Broly himself but he wasn't all that interesting in that film.

… I… what?

Wait, that's actually a good origin story. Why is it people bitch so much about the prequel trilogy again (Keep it short)?

Shit execution.

Understandable

I'd say the large part of it was that it ruined the "mystic" aspect of the force. Aside from the "midiclorians" bit, the force went from being an invisible guiding hand (Like when luke blew up the death star) to an overt power used for chucking shit and doing backflips

eh, not the same if you leave out "made out of clay", imo.
my favorite thing about WW canon is that Wonder Girl and Wonder Tot are just younger versions of Wonder Woman (even though she was never a baby), and they used to crossover through time-travel hijinx. then eventually the writers forgot and had them crossover with each other without doing time travel.

sorry, I can only explain my opinon through a ten minute talking head shot from a single camera in front of a greenscreen.

That's the most fun thing about him. He isn't a complex character with deep personal motivations. He's a big, super strong hulk retard with tons of power.

It's juvenile, but insanely enjoyable. He's everything people love about DBZ.

I wonder how Akira Toriyama conceive the Broly character. Maybe he's sick and the only thing he can manage to write is "Broly is very angry at Kakarot, he's super duper strong"

For the DBZ movies (which are all alternate timelies) the producers of the anime would write the plot and come up with the concepts. Toriyama would just design the characters.

Here's the actual design sheet for Broly drawn by the man himself. It's exactly what you said.

He's exemplifies everything wrong with Dragon Ball, as evident by how he's celebrated by North Americans fans with their butchered dubs. Copious screaming, ass-pull power-ups, pointless fights (usually one-sided and resolved with bullshit).

Not that I'm saying the series is much more deep and meaningful - it's a pretty dumb series overall - but there's generally been more style and even some substance to back up the dumb stuff and make it more thematic and appealing. Even villains with simpler motivations than Broly - like Tao Pai Pai who was just a hitman, or Tullece who was just Evil Goku - brought more to that table than just more mindless shouting and punching, with either some style or interesting concepts to captivate or some additional themes for a better narrative.

Only if you're an edgyfag obsessed with transformations and power levels.

As far as movie villains are concerned Beerus represents the quality parts of the franchise better by bringing back the action with the kind of presence of King Piccolo and Frieza while bring back the comedy of old school dragon ball as seen from Pilaf and the Red Ribbon army.

Bonus:Goku not beating him is also reminiscent of the first World Martial Arts arc where Roshi, as Jackie Chun defeats Goku to teach Goku a lesson on being complacent and to show their's still new heights he can achieve if he keeps training.

I laughed my ass off on that picture! Thanks user!
Made in here?

Reported for child porn.

Beerus and Whiz, the two reasons why I only watch DBS

You know what's funny? Would Goku mentioned to Superman that there is an impersonator in Goku's world?

And that's why I like about Dragon Ball. Goku never wins all the time. Yes, he is strong, arguably the strongest person on Earth but he never goes around saying he's the strongest and unlike most anime characters, he lost a few good fights, making him feel less invincible and therefore less boring.

He still carries much of that in Z too though. It's really only the Namek saga where Goku is treated as a savior. Cell was Gohan's win, and the Saiyans and Buu were team efforts to finish.

And I actually liked it that Buu was a team effort to finish. I mean, how do you defeat a destroyer of worlds and killer of gods?

It was the Japanese producers who turned Broly into a screaming retard because they don't know what to do with him. The English VA for Broly doesn't like voicing the character because all the screaming causes strain on his vocal chords.

If North America was behind Broly, then Movie 10 would've been him fighting Piccolo, Gohan, and Vegeta, and Krillin instead of screwing around with Goten and Trunks. Dragonball movies were and are still made to the tastes of the Japanese first.

It was all good until that last line.

If you watch the Clone Wars series, they do a far better job of illustrating Anakin's fall to darkness and the shit he went through that drove him to say, "Fuck it, let's be evil"

But that's really just a band-aid for the awful acting and writing and cringe-worthy delivery of of moronic dialog of the prequel trilogy.

Which Clone Wars? The CG one or the awesome one that Gennedy Tartakovsky did?

2d of course.

That's not the Japanese's fault. That's Funi's fault for casting Vic Mignogna for Broly because he can't go that low naturally and partially Sean Schemmel for creating the 'voice goes lower with each super saiyan level' but at least he paced himself.

The CGI one. The Tatakovsky one is really good but focuses on such a short timeline of events that it can't really illustrate Anakin's fall quite as well as the CGI one could.

Of course, the 2d cartoon didn't do too bad a job with Anakin either.

I still say the 2d was better, not so much filler.

Here's an even dumber backstory: what if Broly was a gril?

….Uhm..that's someone's fetish right there.

What?

Eh, with the multiverse thing in Super, I'm guessing this is the rule 63 universe. Who wants to see female Vegeta?

That sounds awful.

Smart and sly Cobra Commander sounds much better than the ptsd soldier we got in the newer movies.

Can female saiyans even go super?

If they exist.

Kinda of a cop out if they go the alternate dimensions route.

Uhm..hello? Fasha? Gine?

I mean, alternate universes had already been established in Super. Cop out, yes..out of left field? Not exactly.

To be fair it did show that a bit with the vision scene in the cave.

wait do you mean the live action movies or the animated GI JOE Resolute?

Live action