Look at history of socialist countries porn laws

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Do Communists Have Better Sex.mp4

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Not my comrad

flat is justice

You can do all the porn you want. You are not allowed to sell it. MmmmmK?

abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/internet-cuba-facts-myths-web-access/story?id=19895951

Cuba doesn't even allow citizens to watch porn.

self.gutenberg.org/articles/list_of_pornography_laws_by_country#Cuba

So much of a socialist utopia…

A) You cannot fully ban porn.
B) Back in my day we had no net. We fapped to other stuff.
C) … Well .. I guess you'll have to go outthere and get a gf or something!

However, I don't know how Cuba is doing in terms of Sex Ed.


Yeah, so???


Just like east germany. And you know what they found after the wall? .. TONS OF HOMEMADE PORN, NOT FOR SALE!

You're browsing fullchan, do you really want death penalty when some asshole posting child porn and it is part of your browsing history?

You're thinking of communism friendo

WATCH YOUR HISTORY!!!

Well, in socialist countries you didn't really need porn because they were far less prude so you could much more easily just have sex yourself.

Good

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porn is gross

Are you the same poster that posts lewd cats?

why

Stalin gualged homosexuals, no reason that socialist countries can't have flaws.

No I'm a different feminist. I guess.


cuz

but y tho

You watch porn to masturbate and masturbation is a sin

actually I watch porn for the plot

you don't know me

Catposter disappeared. =(

I get off to 2d women being exploited

waste of trips ngl.

masturbation is a sinful practice for sinners

ngl you should disappear too

Iceland seems like a dream come true, but then you find out it's full of anti-porn laws and feminists.

That sounds more unbearable for you than the active volcanoes

Active volcanoes provide hotsprings, geothermal energy, and volcanic glass.

They're wonderful, and make no disingenuous promises of their role in life.

So they're not like men

And the crippling poverty
And the climate
And the inbreeding problems
And the rampant alcoholism

That doesn't sound like much of a problem

Exactly.

But, the same could be said of all people and parties.


They at least take care of one another.

All aboard fucked as far as that goes. Hell, just look at all those Compact Nations (Pulau, Marshall Islands, and the Federated States of Micronesia) people that had to be evacuated to Arkansas.

Hot damn, ethno-Irish purity confirmed. But yeah all island nations go through that.

Further confirmation of ethno-Irish purity.

But they are next door to "world's highest suicide rate" Greenland.


Seconded.

Ffs leftypol.

Just the one autistic an-fem poster

That's it, I'm renouncing Marxism-Leninism. It's clear now that the state can never be trusted with control over the means of production of loli hentai.

Porn addiction is real and I think I'm suffering from it.

Banning porn is a great idea. During the Gaza strip occupation, the only thing that the Israelis allowed to be broadcasted on Palestinian television was porn, since it was a demoralizing agent.

ban porn

What the fuck is wrong with drawings?

It's a shame loli is banned in the UK.

They also banned a bunch of others things, most tragically anything involving pee

I think it's only the production of pornography containing that stuff (pee, facesitting etc.) but the porn itself isn't illegal to have.

Lolicon on the other hand you cannot draw, download, upload, possess in any form etc. and there was a guy sent to prison for 9 months for having some loli manga on his computer.

oh fug

Why would you even have loli in the first place, comrades?

I've never understood the appeal, but then I don't really like animu either.

This is good. I'd also ban anime if I was in charge. So hentai woukd be twice as illegal.

Pure gattungswesen

do you really need to ask that question

Holla Forums here. They did this for a reason. Porn is poison. It's addictive, It warps your sexuality and makes you dumb and lazy. There's a growing body of mainstream research documenting the negative effects of porn on the brain. The actors involved are broken people who exhibit similar psychological symptoms to victims of molestation.

It's also legitimately exploitative to many of the women involved and long term many porn actors wind up suffering the same mental damage as victims of molestation.

It's also, unsurprisingly, run by a pack of depraved Jews.

I keep forgetting that I'm on a chan

I jumbled that post, but the point stands.

I can draw, play piano, program in so many languages I've forgotten how many, and have college degrees in math, computer science and philosophy.

I'm currently teaching myself Japanese and plan to learn Chinese after that.

Whenever I'm at home, I masturbate all the fucking time… Practically whenever I feel the slightest bit horny.

What the fuck are you talking about?

I doubt it, but for the sake of argument you would be an extreme outlier. Most people who consume massive amounts of porn are essentially broken addicts.

You bitch about "jews" being "depraved", but I have never known a greater group of liars, con artists, bullshit pushers, violent, sadistic, losers, as the people who post on Holla Forums and genuinely believe what they say.

Stop the hypocrisy and kill yourselves, as you have no friends left.

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Ehh, with relationships? Sure. Porn addicts can still have normal lives though. At least, if their addiction isn't all consuming.

If anyone likes Michael Fassbender and is interested in seeing a movie where Michael Fassbender plays a man with a sex/porn addiction, watch Shame. It's bretty gud.

I would be more than happy to get by on even erotic literature; I don't need people to be exploited for my enjoyment.
While I don't disagree that pornography can have bad effects on the consumer, I don't think they're as bad as you're making them out to be. Ultimately it's just satisfying a sense-pleasure, similar to watching a film or listening to music or playing a sport or thinking of cool ideas.
The solution is not to become attached; neither attached to pornography (becoming dependent and integrating it into a "self") nor becoming attached to not masturbating (creating a "self" that is reliant upon not masturbating to be content). You can apply the Middle Way to this too, and with enough discipline you see that there are higher callings than sense pleasures. Unfortunately I lack the discipline.


Good luck with your Japanese, I don't have enough motivation to practice any more and I haven't actually practiced for more than a year.
I can program but don't have any projects to work on.
I'm learning piano but still little motivation to pursue it.
I want to become well read in phil but I don't know who to read after Descartes.
I suck at maths beyond the small part of Calc II that I can do.
And I probably fap less than you.
You're a much better version of me.

never gets old

You're training your body to respond to artificial stimulation instead of human interaction.

Like any other drug you're also going to escalate your use over time. Someone who starts with vanilla porn can easily wind up a depraved fetishist a few years later as he needs greater novelty to continue getting off. Obviously people have varying degrees of resistance to addiction, but the fact remains it's bad for you.

The inbreeding part is true tho. you have to check some goverment page to see if you're not dating some distant cousin.

What would communist porn even look like? Personally, I'd like to see lots of creampies, you know, to seize the means of reproduction.

pregnancy is gross

Your mom was once pregnant. Don't be mean to your mom.

I'm not mean to my mom. Don't you dare accuse me of being mean to my mom.

… Drugs work the way they do because they hijack the body's mechanisms in ways that defy its attempts to reassert homeostasis.

Orgasm -> Prolactin response -> Lack of libido due to prolactin blocking dopamine action -> Receptors reacheive homeostasis -> You get horny again

That is not the same thing as taking a dopamine agonist and having it hit your receptors constantly for the next 12 hours.

So, is masturbation a drug? Only insofar as all the normal shit in your head uses neurochemicals for communication – which they everything in your head does. Does masturbation hijack your biochemistry in a way that your biochemistry wasn't meant to work normally? Absolutely not.

You already have systems built into your biochemistry which to get everything back to whatever your standard is.

People look for more exotic shit not because of masturbation, but because we have systems built into our head that seek out novelty. You look at the same things over and over again; you end up wanting something new.

That's the same drive that leads humans to creativity and intelligence.

Stop being mean to your mom.


I assume more art student edgy shit with more comfortable positions and creampies

I am not at all interested in men or cum.

So what's gross about pregnancy?


Art students? Well they are more likely to want such messy situations?

I don't know. I sometimes think of maternity, but it's more emotional, and seeing it in a sexual way fetishistic way feels gross as fuck, because the process is dehumanizing to begin with.

What about wanting baby batter in your tummy is dehumanizing? I don't understand what you mean, especially when that very sort of thing creates other humans/animals/et c!

It's everything after. Besides, I have no interest in that or men.

I'm not talking about masturbation. I'm talking about porn.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871202

Giving birth to another living being is dehumanizing. That's a hard one for me to wrap my head around.

I think we may have different definitions of the word 'dehumanizing.'

Everything after what? The insemination? The zygote? The blastocyst? The fetus? You're really, really confusing me.

Pregnancy itself.

And I doubt you'll soon get it.

If you don't like cumming then you need to find a girl that knows how to eat. Have her rub your legs before and suck on your toes to warm shit up.

(checked)
I'm saying we'd see more art student shit under commie porn because it'd no longer be made just for profit, in the same way we'd see more indie movies compared to blockbuster action flicks and romcoms. Creampies seem like they'd become more common because the whole money shot stuff is pretty awkward tbh.

Pregnancy is dehumanizing? Or after pregnancy is dehumanizing?

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Thankfully, it's entirely voluntary. I am free to practice my belief in anti-natalism. Raising a human in this world is by definition dehumanization.

Anti-natalism isn't the same thing as anti- nurturism.

I honestly don't see the appeal of getting pregnant in any capacity and beyond that the idea of creating life in a world as shitty as this. Children also cost a lot.

All in all it's a major turn off.

Whether or not it's ethical to have children is a different debate. But I don't see how it's dehumanizing in any way.

Remember, these are your allies anarcho-feminist shitposters

I just don't want to look obese at any point in my life or deal with the "miracle of birth". Abortion sounds more pleasant.

Honestly it's complicated. I want to be a mom one day, I do, but seeing it all as a turn on is too gross. The process is alien enough, growing bone and flesh inside you. It's just, not that much of a turn on.

Yeh, I agree, but I still don't think you know what dehumanizing means…


Maybe…
Except I don't support banning porn.

I mean dehumanizing in the sense of the condescension of it, or the fact there's pressure to do it, when I'm in no hurry at all.

You're 'creating life', but I just see it in a different way. I don't see it as a positive, and it's hard to explain what I mean by dehumanization. It's complex.

I'm not going to post anymore about it though. I don't want this thread devolving into how I feel about giving birth.

That study literally proves nothing.

First, the sample size was 64 people. This means this study was meaningless.

Second, they took 64 people, and just asked them how much they masturbated. That's it.

There was no control.

They didn't ask people to consume porn over a month and then look at the brain changes, they just asked some random people how much porn looked at..

The 'Conclusions and Relevance' are so contradictory as to be juxtaposing. Not only that, it's pure speculation.

What they are openly saying is that they can't tell you what is the chicken and what is the egg. They can't tell you if the differences cause greater consumption of porn, or if they are caused by greater consumption of porn.

And if you look at their data, you have test subjects with a huge range of consumption but the exact same amount of grey matter. People on the high end of porn consumption with high grey matter, and people on the low end of porn consumption with the exact same amount. They have contradicting instances in their data.

You read the full thing and their conclusions are full of 'might' and 'could be'.. Because they literally tested jack shit. They did an exploratory thing which proves nothing. The kind of thing that people looking for information scoff at and people looking for phd work look at as an opportunity to do more research.

Nobody except for someone with a desire to prove something (or someone who doesn't read and understand the study) is going to take a study like that seriously.

There was no experiment. There was no science involved here. It was just they picked out a small sample of people and took some scans and then they made a whole bunch of speculation, and put in weasel words like 'could be' or 'might' so they didn't get laughed at by their colleagues.

thanks for giving out ideas how to redpill commiefags t. Holla Forums

Take the brown pill

Well, I don't really want to pressure you to do it, but I still want my holes plugged up with goop and to feel it's warmth slosh around, you know.

You just got me hard.

Pretty disgusting tbh.

Oh boy. You see? I read that and I have to take time out from learning kanji to go masturbate. Sheesh.

just goes to show you: states can be nothing but reactionary and will never aim to give workers control of industries.

Good.

Porn is bourgie as fuck anyhow.

The only thing I want my holes plugged up with is saliva

this shit just isnt fair. all the girls im into are lesbians, but if I become a girl myself it wont be the same, they still wouldnt like me. Life is suffering.

You can't become a girl Fam. you'll still be a half-assed chinese bootleg of a girl with a chopped up sausage for a vag.

If you believe, you can achieve

No but in all seriousness don't feel bad. Even if I was straight, you probably wouldn't want to date me. Plus, hey, your self image is usually worse than what people think of you. Not reassuring, but most of the time what people think of you isn't as negative as you'd think it is.

You can find that leftist gf champ I believe in you.

t-thanks. I'll keep trying…

I believe in you

You can do it m8. I'm 5'8" and I got a qt. Just get fit, or at least not fat, and don't sperg when you talk to grills. Make sure to be honest though, there's nothing more unattractive than a nigga who is fake.

So you're either attracted to porn because you have a subnormal brain or you're destroying your brain by consuming it. Either way I'll abstain, thanks.

Well addiction to anything is harmful. But you might have a point about porn being exploitive.
That's why I unironically think 2D is better than 3D. There's no real people involved so exploitation/objectivication/dehumanization/whatever is out of the question.
And from personal experience most 3D porn is just gross and makes me feel dirty and uncomfortable if I try to fap to it. I don't have that problem with 2D.


One of them already is.

Well that too. You're either getting off to some drug-addled Eastern European kidnap victim or someone whose soul has been crushed by the degradation of life as a professional cumrag.

Go out and wife up a real, willing woman instead of abusing yourself to pictures of dead-eyed sex slaves.

Porn is western degeneracy. Only through the CPP will you be free of faggotry, drugs and moral decay.

God I love a good creampie

Drugs and faggotry and moral decay are the fuel to my fire tho

I love you

Norm life baby. We're quitters and we're sober our confessions will be televised.

And this is why the revolution has failed time and time again. All those things have been co-opted in a capitalist manner. This is why the only meaningful revolutions of the future will be right-wing, because leftists fail to recognize the power of culture in shaping human actions.

WHICH WAY, SLAVIC MAN?

For someone who sure hates degeneracy the dildo up your ass seems to be larger than the one up my cunt.

But culture is spook! Maybe if I say this long enough and with enough sneering, it will cease to matter.

We're white and oh so hetero and our sex is missionary

Yes, yes and mostly.

Raised to be stupid, taught to be nothing at all?

Wait, is there something wrong with being white and heterosexual?

Yes, you ignorant white cisshit.

There's certainly nothing wrong with being boring and unsatisfying

10/10

Well those are subjective views, now aren't they?

I'm not a fan of banning things, but…

freedom from sin not freedom to sin ok?

You aren't even aware I'm throwing lyrics to a song your way this whole time

This is the trouble with Christianity. There is no inborn will to power within it.

What was that?

Our god is white and unforgiving, we're piss tested and we're praying

Oh yeah, Mao. Great job at turning China into a communist country. It sure is the workers who own the means of production over there, yessir.

As it turns out, those don't kill fascists, either.

You're killing everyone's patience lmao

Find a fascist I'll find you a virgin

Sounds like edgelord homo music tbqh fam :D :D

[misanthropy intensifies]

I used to be a fascist sympathizer and I had sex.
III had seeeeex
t. Grandpa Simpson

There are still heterosexuals these days? I would imagine they get tired fast, you know 'cause a woman with a straight man learns she's only dreaming when she orgasms.

Find me a degenerate who has bought into the neo-liberal hedonistic paradigm and I'll find you and impulsive fool who has no sense of self-control or sexual restraint.

In some cases, yes, it can be degenerate, but it is far less degenerate than the will to pleasure

I was a leftist until I had sex. What went wrong? Was the sex you had really bad?

Professional porn is shit anyway.

I'm pretty sure porn producers themselves don't fap to their porn, because you just can't fap to such unexciting garbage.

Porn idustry produces commodity for impotents to buy.

I think porn probably produces more impotents than it attracts. How are you going to perform with a real person after years of whiteknuckling your genitals to whatever bizarre scenario you're fixated on?

Why would you have gay porn? I've never understood the appeal. Hopefully a faggot such as yourself can explain it to me.

You missed the whole thing about a sample size of 64 people… And that there were contradicting data points. And that the *study* didn't prove anything at all. It wasn't an experiment.

Allow me to explain what a contradicting data point is. A contradicting data point is when you have someone with a grey volume of 0.82 percent who spends 3 hours looking at porn per week, and a person with a grey volume of 0.82 percent who spends 0 hours looking at porn per week. It's when you have someone who looks at porn LESS and has LESS gray matter, and someone who looks at porn MORE and has MORE gray matter.

And you understand that argument about sex causing the reduced sensitivity to pleasure they're conjecturing is an argument against enjoying ANYTHING at all right? You use the exact same structures in the same way.

You're saying that pleasure itself is destructive, and to keep ourselves from becoming desensitized we should never experience pleasure….

Again.

1. The sample size was too small to mean anything. That should stop you right there. When the sample size is too small, outliers dominate.
2. They had contradicting data points… In fact there were a ton of contradicting data points, a whole cluster of them.
There were subjects that spent more time looking at porn, who had more grey matter than people who looked at porn less. In fact, there were a ton of cases like that – *the majority of them*.

There was no correlation or causation between looking at porn and grey matter size. In fact, there were cases of outright reversal. There were outliers of some that had very high grey matter size who didn't look at porn at all, two cases in particular, and there were two cases where they said they looked at porn the highest and had the lowest gray matter.

That's why I keep on telling you, 64 people doesn't mean anything.

3. Hell, even if they did it with 64000 people it still wouldn't have proved anything because it *still wasn't an experiment, controlling for the effect of one factor*.

4. They were talking about small differences, differences that could be accounted for by normal variation, hence contradicting data points.

That is a study that goes in the pseudoscience bin. Literally, that study is like if I took 64 black and white people and found out that some black people were smarter than some white people, but there was a general trend, an average, for white people to be smarter, and only a tiny bit smarter at that… out of 64 people. And then I belt out that black people are inferior because of thousands of years of devolution in Africa and just started belting out more and more random conjectures.

That study is so bad that it says literally nothing. It's the type of thing that people use to justify getting paid to do more research. That's it.

Pussy or death

the will to pleasure sounds amazing. My girlfriend uses that on me quite often.

Well I'm bi but more or less straight.
What does this even mean?

The autism, it burns!
Mmkay.

Wait, what?
No, I had good sex. I just suck at getting laid. How would getting some make you not a leftist?

I had bizarre fetishes long before I ever looked at porn. If anything fapping to porn (drawings, not that 3DPD shit) has made me more able to fap to less weird scenarios.

Nothing about this sounds bad to me.

Whaaat up.

I like putting my penis in vaginas.

It means…well…the difference between a straight man and a vibrator is that the latter lasts more than 5 minutes.

Roasted

I concur, my fellow feminists who are different people but happen to simply agree on this one topic.

Clearly an individual who is a slave to the desires peddled by corporate interests, unable to find any deeper meaning for existence. Communists are, at their core, just capitalists who have slightly different ideas about economics.

Also, I'm an atheist.

And faggots like putting dicks in butts. This is why AIDS even a problem.

The difference between a catlady and a woman who actually decides to raise a family is that the catlady is going to die alone and unloved.

I realized that I really cared about my girlfriend and that I wanted a family with her.

That realization gradually trasformed me from dude weed lmao into the driven stormtrooper you see posting here today.

You're goddamn right

That's because you're a deranged Nazi faggot :D

But I cum and keep going and go at it multiple times. I'm sorry you got fucked by some two-pump chump who got off in ten seconds, rolled over and went to sleep. Is this why you're a dyke? Lol are you traumatized from really bad sex?

Give me pussy or give me death!

Stop what you're doing. Weebism never ends well.

Never has the term "feminazi" been more appropriate.

No one actually thinks this. China fell to revisionism under Deng Zhao Ping. They're Marxist-Leninist in name only. You can't seriously think the Chinese government today is trying to build socialism.
This doesn't discredit Mao's theory, however.


I'm not defending the fascist but holy shit, think before you post user.

They said that about socialism but we're still here. If I was in the habit of following the blathering advice of idiots I'd have committed suicide long ago.

Memes aside, how can you do it? How can one fap to hentai? That's some power of imagination right there.

Sometimes I can't even bring myself to fap to porn that I genuinely like. It feels like I'm becoming an impotent, masturbation feels like a chore.

Hey, don't pin that one on anarchists. That's purely feminist/nazi bullshit.

>hurr ur degenerate pleasure seeking

Anarchist girls and anarchist boys are in two total different ball parks.

Haha, T R I G G E R E D : ~ )
Love is a pebble laughing in the sun.


I've only had sex with a girl. Was just a joke.
I don't think you're talking to the poster you think you're talking to. Cf:

Sometimes I don't even use images. In fact, usually I'll look at some pictures to get aroused and give me inspiration, then I'll go and masturbate in bed with my eyes shut, imagining arousing scenarios.

A good imagination is a huge help when you have a less popular fetish with relatively few good doujins.

Uhh, I'm a man and I'm quite capable of using a vibrator AND my penis… or hands or a mouth. I use all to great effect. You switch out. We can do everything a woman can do for you, and we have a penis. That's the only difference.

I never gotten this. Do other men basically just fuck, have an orgasm and stop? Because what I do is fuck, have an orgasm, continue using a vibrator or some other kind of manual stimulation, and then fuck some more when I get my second or third wind.

Am I the only man who has figured this out? Do lesbians truly believe that men can't finger you or eat you out?

I own various sex toys including a magic wand for the specific purpose of using them on women.

Am I the only man on the planet that's good at sex? Or have some women just never had sex with a man before and figured out men can do all the same manual stimulation a woman can do?

Why? So my future kids can get harassed by niggers as they shuffle dejectedly through some miserable public school? So my wife can get raped by migrants? Maybe so that i can allow the government to disarm me, making me powerless to prevent all of the above?

Why on earth would caring about her make me more of a leftist?

Feminine shape > masculine shape

lol. I was saying that because I honestly think a lot of grills go homo because they have a couple really shitty male partners and they get disillusioned.
t. armchair sexpert
I'm not reading this long ass thread to see which purple annarky flag you are :DDDd

Too weird. It's dick, tongue and fingers for me.

it's not as much that as I just love women and I'm incapable of loving men. I just fall in love with women. Men seem boring compared to the feminine.

This is something I've often wondered about too. Is 3DPD sex really that boring? All of my fantasies involve things like tying a girl to the bed and then teasing her with a vibrator for a couple of hours before getting her to suck me off in return for being allowed to orgasm.

I remember that part when I said that I like to put my penis into vaginas tho.
You know, with a condom.
So I don't get aids, nor I get girls pregnant.

Because I'm smart enough to have sex without ruining my life. If you're not, too bad fam. Have fun jerking off to animu grills tho, I'm sure Jesus understands.

None of those things would happen under any leftist government I supported. You've literally just taken retarded copypasta from Holla Forums and believed that it is representative of every imaginable leftist society.

We can't save you from being a fucking retard.

That sounds pretty hot ngl
Would love to have my insides painted alabaster and then filled in with a toy so that not a drop spills out


Fair enough.

k. I'll keep that in mind while you indulge in all manner of degenerate marketed items.


I bet you fucked your parents ever night then, degenerate.


>me saying Triggered and posting an emoticon prove how not mad I am

whatever helps you sleep at night. alone. with only your cats and dildos to comfort you.


Fight the good fight. These communists are a demographic dead end.

I'm not mad though.

Degeneracy sounds better than whatever cracker jack shit ur pushing lmfao

Oh nonononono.. The toys man. The TOYS man. You can put a magic wand on her belly while you're fucking her. Seriously, it's magic.

You are missing out on so much… Not to mention she's got another naughty hole to fill. Vibrator chan is my wingman. We work together as a team, and it's just one explosive killstreak after another.

Female body has evolved for form.
Male body has evolved for function.

When you go into labor and push a fetus out of your cock I'll believe you.

All those things you mentioned are the fault of capitalism and neoliberalism.
Blacks' shittiness are a result of shit economic conditions and a self-destructive culture that's accentuated by consumerism and the mass media. If anything you should want to overthrow such systems so those people can heal their communities and be more functional.
I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Are you planning on home schooling? Either way, there are numerous problems with public schools, but I hope you aren't proposing they be done away with.
Wait, do you live in Cologne? Anyway, hordes of shitty foreign bydlo on your doorstep are the result of aggressive neocolonialism and imperialism making poor countries unlivable hellholes. This is only worsened by governments who want to suppress wages and stoke ethnic tensions at home.
Actual leftists are pretty pro-guns, for the most part. Look up the Garl Margs and George Orwell quotes on the subject for details.
Because the systems we live under create these serious problems. Wildly blaming foreigners for your problems is incredibly ignorant.

TL;DR- Leftism is not liberalism and Holla Forums has brainwashed you

Holla Forums has managed to out-tard a feminazi

Degeneracy isn't just better. Degeneracy is the best.


Indeed. What are holes for if not filling with phallic things?

you sure proved me wrong

A fulfilled life? A coherent identity?

And the degenerate worship of weakness as presented as pop socialism


Genetics don't real


It's utilitarian.

That's a tricky statement though friendo. Which leftist governments would you support? Any leftist movement likely to come power today wants to disarm me and flood my homeland with hostile foreigners. Would you really reject these movements on those grounds? Do your fellow posters even agree with you?


Hail victory brother.

You're welcome.

I'm filled and fulfilled in multiple ways.

At least I'm dating someone you creep

Literally what?
I meant a healthy romantic relationship. Are you autistic or being retarded on purpose?
This is what Holla Forums actually believes.

In what way? Besides, most forms of utilitarianism does not lead to justice.

Identity is exactly the issue. The sense of 'self' that is created by an individual, it is a root of suffering in which identification with it leads to sadness, lamentation, pain etc.

Attachment and clinging and craving for identity is what causes a lot of your suffering, it's a real shame that people don't see this.

What are you going on about?
Even if your racial hierarchy bullshit were correct, it'd be an even stronger argument for eliminating poverty etc.
If anything it's counter-productive

There aren't any governments currently in existence which I would fully support.

I don't think you're capable of understanding the complexities of society which cause certain groups of "foreigners" to be less civilised than others, but shutting the door and pretending they don't exist isn't a long term solution. It's like wallpapering over a termite infestation. We must alter the material conditions which give rise to that kind of culture. If it makes the prospect sound more palatable to you, consider it as a kind of memetic eugenics through scientifically engineered economic, medical, educational, and law enforcement policy.

As for guns, I think any attempts to control them are pointless. We already have the technology to 3D print crude firearms, and that's only going to get easier. We should work on engineering society in such a way that people don't want to shoot each other.

I think, at least on these points, most of Holla Forums would agree.


Please remember where you are. This isn't reddit, you twat-guzzler. You're sharing a board with people from /loli/ and Holla Forums. shuddersome is practically a compliment here.

Yeah basically this.

The average American black IQ is 85 user. 70 for sub-saharan Africans.

Low SES whites routinely outscore high SES black on IQ tests.

Intelligence is currently thought to be anywhere from 40-80% genetic.

This is why black behave exactly as we expect them to and defy every one of your misguided attempts to improve them.

The internal variation within any population is much greater than the variation between populations.

Also, it would be nice if you could quote some statistics which aren't from ~100 year old studies. Research methodology has improved significantly since figures like that were invented.

I don't think you have any idea of what we stand for, user. Kindly educate yourself.

Fascinating. I imagine that you are very proud of yourself.

This is what Holla Forums actually believes

Justice on what basis? Building a healthy society is more important than making sure every single human on earth receives what they 'deserve' on some sort of cosmic basis.

Go listen to "Imagine," commie. Humans need identity, a sense of self, and a sense of purpose to attain self-fulfillment.

Sacredness being correlated with suffering. It is one of the roots of society's decay.


why?

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I am proud my girlfriend fucks me silly and makes me submissive. Wine and dines me. Loves me. Promises after college we'll be engaged and have a family together. Every time we touch I feel butterflies you've never felt. Every time we kiss I feel I've met someone who makes me feel like I'm loved, and every time she kisses me she feels the same. We melt into fluid into the same being every time we're together.

And honestly it's more love then you'll feel with your beliefs and I can't say I don't feel sorry for you that you won't.

I can't fap to just plain images, but throw in a story with nice art and it works better than 3d. Try some ero manga.

Gayest post in the thread.

Remember how I talked about contradicting data points?

Let's pretend that some of the good old 'white' racialist iq race studies are correct. What about the 'some black people' that are smarter than 'some white people', which even these freely admit? Even if you believe the most racist studies out there, they still point to the fact that there are smarter and more law abiding 'black' people than other dumber and less law abiding 'white' people.

In other words, your racialist point of view is just obfuscating information. You would want the 'smart and law-abiding' people and their 'race' would be completely irrelevant.

He may be 'white' but he's still a fucking career criminal.

Even framing things from your point of view and goals, you don't make any sense. That and race is a social construct that does things like laughably mix in people from disparate geographical areas… And then isolate out people who come from practically the same areas, like the case of the Irish or Slavs. Seriously. It's all stupid.

Do you really have to drag the "lol ur just a virgin loser" reddit-tier shitposting onto this board? This kind of shit is why I say feminists are cancer here.

It's now around 90+
people.virginia.edu/~ent3c/papers2/nisbett2012int.pdf
This has since been proven impossible.
iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/wicherts2010b.pdf
SES is not personal income, see above links.
Statistical heritability is virtually useless when assessing the abilities of individuals. We are not even close to knowing how intelligence comes from our DNA. It is likely an extremely polygenic trait; we have yet to find a single gene that corresponds to IQ, let alone one that differs between people of different races. All candidate genes have failed to produce results, which means it is so polygenic that random sampling can and will produce statistically improbable results.
Blacks today are smarter than whites were a century ago.

Yes I do

That's pretty gay.

Is it fun being this delusional?

This is not the only measure of human intelligence or moral fortitude. Furthermore I understand that IQ tests have cultural biases, but I don't claim to be an expert.
You seem to claim to be an expert on black people. Have you ever interacted with any in a meaningful way?
also these


Actually this sort of 'original sin' is liberal in nature. Check out Zizek on political correctness.

basically /thread.

pls stop making me feel bad. it feels bad, man. I am so permanently alone. no one will ever understand me for who I am, or even bare to be in proximity to me. All I want is to be sincere and myself, but by doing so I make everyone universally hate me. It hurts me that there are people out there who can be themselves and be loved for being themselves.

Bruh, do you even Flynn effect

It's like you're retarded on purpose.

If I liked dudes you'd be my type

Wanting intimacy and closeness with other humans is a spook.
Disregard people.
*tips fedora*

Take a Raven's matrices test. Then tell me how a test that's completely non-verbal can be culturally biased.

I swear, you guys say you're not liberals, but these are the most basic bitch of shitlib talking points.

This is missing the point that a healthy society cannot exist in isolation of its material conditions, which affect it and everyone else. For example, a healthy society doesn't mean anything when everyone outside is either trying to attack you or dying of starvation.

It's not about what people deserve, it's about our inner humanity to ensure that people can live to the same standards regardless of their genetics or where they happened to be born.

Plastering up problems does not make them go away.

Why do humans need a sense of purpose? Why self-fulfillment? That doesn't bring contentedness so long as you have identity. You still suffer and you are still attached. It solves nothing. You cannot be happy when this happiness arises depending on impermanent phenomena.

Your delusion is believing these phenomena are self. They're not.

As I said, you lack the mental capacity to even begin to fathom the reasons for these things. That's why you invented a load of obviously false bullshit and threw a tantrum rather than asking me to elaborate.

Since IQ is largely static once a person reaches adulthood, I really can't help you. If you think IQ is genetically heritable though, please don't have kids.


But you hate men, so you don't actually give a shit about how he feels.

You think culture is just spoken language?

I don't really care about the minutia of the IQ debate. Other posters have pretty thoroughly debunked your views on the subject.
I notice that Holla Forumsyps' talking points evaporate pretty quickly in the presence of serious debate. That should tell you something about your ideology.

For your exemplary achievement in the war against the spooks, I present you with the shining aura of stirner +1.

It's recognizing patterns of shapes user. And there are plenty of non-European groups that outscore the group responsible for creating the test.

… It's a hat. A red hat. It's a nice hat. Anyway, it's yours now. Use it to keep your brain warm.

Neither do I, but all they've actually done is shriek about bias and magical ghetto retard radiation.

It's a trick.
The thing you describe is, in itself, a spook.
t. philosophy pro

It's like you're retarded on purpose.

Being as I don't have venereal disease, I believe you.


go back to reddit, etc.


And we have the full pathetic white knight circle. Holy shit Holla Forums clean up your garbage, you really are turning into reddit.

Why? This is the worship of weakness I'm talking about.


Suffering isn't an inherent evil. Nihilism is the true evil to fight against. The will of a species to survive is the most sacred thing.


Then what is self?

I don't have any venereal diseases either.

You're the venereal disease of your mother, however. Sentient herpes

And you're too stupid to realize that there are factors other than genetics that lead to people being what they are. You just yammer on about how black people have magical stupid and violence genes that make them incapable of being civilized people. Furthermore, you avoid contradictory evidence as Holla Forumsyp scum always do.

Do you think our ability to perform spatial reasoning and interpolation/extrapolation tasks has nothing to do with the environment we were brought up in?

Even our most basic image processing abilities are learned. If you put newborn kittens in an environment with only vertical lines, they never develop the ability to recognise horizontal lines. Of course that's a very extreme example, but it shows that upbringing has a huge influence.

I can't tell you exactly why different cultures might have better or worse spatial reasoning abilities, but I can say with absolute certainty that you don't have enough information or evidence to say that it's genetic. If there is any genetic component it will be very small.

Holy Christ are you sure you're even responding to the right person? I'm more than willing to hear what you have to say.

I'm aware that IQ is more malleable in children. But if you know that, you should know that those gains are temporary in most cases, as demonstrated by various transracial adoption studies.

Nazis are the epitome of evil.

Evil doesn't exist.

If you actually live near one, it does kind of seem so, hyperbole aside, and not just because of interactions with others.
Fucking poor people not forking up their tens of millions in savings
Irish and Jews also scored low on early IQ tests :^)


That is what I was citing. Average IQ has increased so much, based on how often tests have to be reconfigured to reach a mean score of 100, that our ancestors were literal tards.

Yeah, fuck off. Anyone can cite "various studies".

No, you shouldn't have kids.

Evil is subjective.

I disagree. Neo nazi meth heads are evil

Not the guy you replied to but
Today? None. But Xi Jinping is reintroducing mass line tactics and is doing a great job of purging corruption from the CPC, so he has my partial support.

You need to realize that the vast majority of so-called leftist groups today in the west are capitalists fixated on identity politics to distract people from real issues. Regarless of if they're aware of it, they're still agents of the ruling class. Of course they're not going to serve your interests. Of course they're going to support flooding your country with immigrants to push the price of labor down.
In short, yes.

It's heritable, but only to a very limited extent. It sure as fuck isn't controlled by the same genes which code for skin color.

I'm sorry but that's retarded. Australian abbos for instance have amazing spatial memory, like most hunter gatherers. More importantly city born abbos raised by white parents still have the ability. It's not learned. It's innate.

I'm not saying that all abbos are great trackers or that all blacks are retarded, but facts are facts. Your genes are the hand you've been dealt by nature. How you play it is up to you.

No, it's probably not the same gene coding for skin color and ideal IQ. But that doesn't mean they ain't bundled up in the same package.

I don't believe any feminist has a sufficiently coherent understanding of the mind or philosophy to even understand what they're saying when they use words like "evil". You probably just think it's a synonym for patriarchy or some shit.

You have repeatedly demonstrated that you do not want to know what we have to say, either responding with straw men or not at all.
And once again, you fail to display even a cursory knowledge of what you are talking about.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study


This is a fine example of Dunning-Krueger mentality, you just assume you are an expert on this topic.

You're so delusional

This is why even if Nazi racial hierarchies were viable, they'd still be bullshit. The point should be to maximize human potential. But Holla Forums faggots are misanthropic degenerates who just want an excuse to hate everything.

What do you mean by same package? Do you even understand how genetics works?

Anyway, as I said, genetics only plays a very small role.

"Hateful meth heads suck"
"NOW WAIT A SECOND YOU ARE A FEMINIST"

What is this "package"?

I'd love to hear your explanation of "evil".

Sadism

I'm sorry, but it appears you've posted in the wrong place. Let me help you find the right website:

reddit.com/r/shitredditsays

You can whine all about the excellent nazis that trigger you there. They will take your complaints very seriously.


My tribe made it to the moon. My tribe sailed around the world. My tribe conquered the atom. My tribe bred the plants that feed the whole world. Without my tribe, humans are just so many overgrown apes masturbating in the mud. My tribe is the only reason that the earth holds any value.


No, you see all the pop culture she watches tells her that all nazis do meth and all liberals are excellent human beings who only ever use drugs responsibility.

This is why eugenics is a good idea.

Also, if you think that IQ is a monotonic function of any single gene, you really, really don't understand genetics.

"implausible that these differences are either entirely genetically based or entirely environmentally based."


Holy fucking can you even read

Fuck Reddit and fuck you lol

That's a fetish, not "evil". Try again.

Sadism isn't a fetish, it's a symptom of sociopathy

Did I ever say this? It's a combination of many different genes interacting. What are you even talking about.

I know, they're all cishet mysogynysts over there. Tumblr is better.

I just use Twitter it's nice enough

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By same package, I mean father/mother passing on their genes through reproduction.

If genetics plays such a small role, why is it that various ethnicities in the US have a distinct average IQ, even after accounting for education and socioeconomic status?

Black

The fact it's a combination of a very, very large number of genes interacting means that it isn't heritable in the same way that a single gene would be. There aren't bad genes and good genes. There are bad combinations of genes and good combinations of genes. You can't increase IQ with eugenics for the same reason that you can't improve a computer program by getting rid of all the "bad transistors" off the CPU.

I'm sorry, I went to click on the arrow next to you insightful comment, but Holla Forums does not allow upvoting. Let me show you where you can find a website that does:

reddit.com/

Once again you're ignoring the fact that the IQ variation within a given "race" is much greater than the variation of average IQ between "races".

Evil is understood as a problem when we seek to explain why it exists (Unde malum???) and what its relationship is to the world as a whole. Indeed, something might be considered evil when it calls into question our basic trust in the order and structure of our world. Ergo, evil is relative.

Yes. Mowing your lawn, maintaining your house and not robbing or raping your neighbors are so costly. Poor negros can't afford to not do these things.

You're misinterpreting the Flynn effect. The only real conclusion you can draw from it is that no matter how much education and technology improve, there will always be a massive ubridgeable gap between blacks and basically everyone else.

You're so stupid it hurts.
Put down "March of the Titans" and pick up an actual history book, retard.

Seems you're just jealous of me

No shit there's distribution within every race. I'm not saying all Ashkenazi Jews are geniuses and all blacks are retards.

That said, there are still average distributions within each race. The average person of any race has a noticeably different average IQ than a person of any other race. You can't just disregard it because it's uncomfortable.

Yes, there have been a some blacks that were smarter than the average Ashkenazi Jew. And there has been some Ashkenazi Jews dumber than the average black. That doesn't preclude the value of these comparisons.

Races have different average IQs, and this strongly affects their culture and progression.

I never said it could you clueless fuck. Regression to the mean is ample evidence of that. If anything you're making the case for segregation for me.

How is it weakness to find a way to find rights for all? In fact, I think it is more weak if you just sit in ignorance of the problems of the world.

I'd argue that it's not an evil, but it's certainly bad. And if it can be reduced or even eliminated, I don't know who would be for such reduction or elimination.

accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn36/sn36.006.than.html

There is nothing inherently sacred, only things that are perceived as sacred by those who think they are sacred. What's special about the will to survive? Nihilism doesn't even advocate being defenceless against attack, nor does Buddhism or other such philosophies.

It cannot be found in any dependently arisen phenomenon. It's just not there. All things are empty of self because of their uncontrollable, impermanent nature.

Holy fuck you retarded shitlib. I never said they had no accomplishments. I never said we're responsible for everything good in the world. But there's very obviously a massive gap in terms of what sort of civilization we're each, as a group, capable of building and maintaining.

This is all so pointless. Why is it so hard for people to despook themselves about race?

We can measure the intelligence of a specific person. We can know if someone commits a crime. An individual. A single person. Not an idea, i.e. a social construct, i.e. a 'race'. A person - the genuine thing that exists.

Nobody knows if 'this race' or 'that race' has more smartey genes or not. And it doesn't matter, because races are arbitrary fetishes.

We can know things about specific people.

You know, if you base your measurement around the group of 'low iq people' or 'crime committing people' all those conflicting data points I talked about just magically go away.

The 'white' bank robber and the 'black' physicist don't fucking switch positions because of their skin color.

If you keep on getting inconsistent data, then it means the way you are organizing the data is fundamentally WRONG. You are misinforming yourself.

Maybe 'white' people have more dummy genes and are actually dumber when everything is equalized. Maybe 'black' have more dummy genes. Nobody knows and it doesn't matter. Those are social fetishes. It's dehumanizing by encouraging everyone to worship social constructs instead of seeing people for what they genuinely are. It is outright misinformation. Race is just a fetish of popular culture, like how gender (social construct gender) is a fetish. It's all dehumanizing to the individual. It all misinforms and makes people put on a bizarre play in society of contorting and conforming when they don't even realize it.

In the past 300 years, virtually everything of value has been done by western Europeans.


Seems like you're projecting your own internal psychosis.

The obligation to end 'suffering' does not elevate humanity, it just lowers itself to the lowest common denominator.


I would. The human creature is more powerful by overcoming suffering on a personal level.


It reflects a deeper understanding of the universe. Propagation is holy because the universe trends towards entropy- you are fighting the natural degeneracy of the universe.


If you don't leave room to fight localized degeneracy, you are leaving yourself defenseless.


In that case, nothing exists. Then you might as well come up with words for the 'illusions' that surround you.

I'm sorry, but it appears you've posted in the wrong place. Let me help you find the right website:

reddit.com/r/the_donald

Do you even know how gene expression works?

This is ignoring the fact that this still isn't where race IQ diffs come from. See

So a thread about pornography devolved into a Holla Forumsyp sharing their memes about race. Is there any board Holla Forums won't try to invade without warrant?

Chicomism is pretty brutal. It's also more or less synonymous with Han nationalism. Look how they treat the Uyghurs.

Do you fundamentally disagree with the positions the ID left holds on race and gender, or do you just think they should take a lower priority than class issues?

That there is a bunch of idealistic bullshit.

The value of differentiating between race is the value of averages. It's worthwhile to know how likely a person is to be a problem to you. There's a reason the human brain is so keen to adopt averages and stereotypes - it's because they're effective more often than not.

The data is not inconsistent. It represents a wide range within every race, but we already knew that. More importantly, it reflects an average within every race. And this is useful information.

And then you go on to say gender is a construct. That's a whole 'nother argument there, but it's got nothing to do with this thread so I'm not gonna go into it.


Excuse me dipshit, that's where ~50% of genes come from. Does that feel better? No shit I know how gene expression works but this ain't the time or place to go into scientific jargon.


What are you talking about?

The nazi is a faggot and race is a spook embraced by reprobates whose contribution to history will be screaming cuck at anyone in range.

Let's go back to talking about stuffing women full of baby batter and having it sloosh around in their holes. That was more fun.

Then refute everything in .

Violent crime has been rapidly going down, and even when it was at a peak, the vast majority of people of any race were not criminals.
Differences in crime rates are also easily explained: sf.oxfordjournals.org/content/75/2/619.short


Even if this is true (it isn't, it's an ipse dixit statement), all it has really proven that even dumb people today are intelligent enough to get by effectively.

We're talking about group averages, you pedantic dildo.

Stirner isn't some commie crucifix that you can just brandish at unpleasant reality to make it disappear.

"These differences" refers to the subjects of the study, which had severe selection biases.

So if they are not humanized by a set of arbitrary measures their worth is null? the highest value any being can aspire to is to cram themselves into a vague and ever-changing definition of humanity?

The idea of humanity itself… is it *your* idea? is it mine?

Probability isn't going to save you when a statistical outlier breaks into your home and rapes your kids.
I'll take that as a "no"


It's not unpleasant, we just don't care.
Don't care. We aren't ignoring it. We literally do not give a shit. It is meaningless to our beliefs.

Uhh, it's not idealistic bullshit when we do it. We keep records on academic achievement and criminal activity.

We have computers now.. And databases.. You know, SQL.. Databases work with this shit really well. You can search the databases for matches, ranges whatever you want… We've had this technology for decades.

So, yeah, we can know specifically.. Uhh, that's what they do when they do things like run a background check.


And your sex (having a penis or a vagina) is biological. Your gender (i.e. the social construct) is something that affects what roles you are expected to play, how people perceive you, blah blah blah. It's social and it's changed dramatically between societies and over. So, yeah it's a popular culture fetish.

And you are probably not at all biologically related to them.

Speak for yourself, I have no beliefs.

Yes, you twit. It's gone down because we've thrown an unprecedented number of ferals in prison. Something you oppose. What do you think would happen if we turned them all loose?

You're denying obvious reality. No matter what policies you enact, the black population will never meaningfully improve. In fact, if anything they'll probably have a dysgenic effect as your programs extract talented blacks from their communities, leaving them leaderless and full of hopeless retards.

Here:

What is it that you want refuted? Lower IQs are associated with higher crime rates, especially violent crimes like rape and murder. And repeated testing of US blacks shows them to be of low average IQ, and stats show their violent crime rates to surpass all others.


You ignore the problem of biological racial differences because it's meaningless to your beliefs? What the fuck does that mean? Sounds to me like you're saying you don't let reality get in the way of your ideals.


The idealistic comment was in regard to how you're entirely disregarding even being aware of racial differences. That's just irrational.

And don't fucking talk to me about socially constructed gender roles. You and I both know that gender roles have far more in common between cultures than they do different. They vary in color preferences and styles of dress, but men and women always behave in similar manners. This is because, in an evolutionary sense, men have always been fighters, and women have always been nurturers. While of course neither of these roles is exclusive between sexes, these roles have shaped the evolution of the male/female brain and are reflected in cultural norms.

I explained that. The way you are grouping shit doesn't matter. That's what the explanation is. It's irrelevant. You get conflicting data points because the way you are looking at things is inconsistent in the first place. The idea of grouping people like this is stupid.

Are you a creationist?

Nope, prisons have actually caused extreme recidivism and have caused the drops to go down slower. Nearly all new arrests from policy changes are for nonviolent crimes.

Except it statistically has, for decades. Teenage pregnancy, high school graduation, violent crime, even IQ averages. Despite this, their wealth ownership remains stagnant, but this is because it sucks for everyone in general.

Reality is not wrong, so I must be denying something else. Probably from jpeg ridden unsourced graphs. :^)

The study was supposed to prove that the proper environment could create lasting gains for black children. It failed to do so. Show me one that succeed and I'm more than willing to read it.

And you have repeatedly used these statistics to make unrelated ipse dixit claims that these statistics are unchangeable, which basically means you are calling all contrary evidence lies.
Or, in the case of this thread, you refuse to even look at them.
We don't need to ignore it, it's just not related to what we believe. The parts that do intersect, like the theory that blacks are inherently inferior by nature, were ass pulled by you.


It's not useful in politics, even if it is in anthropology.

It failed to do so because of inherent flaws in the experiment. Even if a study where these flaws did not exist did prove a hereditarian viewpoint, how would we even know?

Blacks are 12% of the population and they commit 50% of all homicides. Show me how they've improved.

Yes user. If only we removed the stigma associated with being a felonious scumbag all of these men would become upstanding, gainfully employed members of their communities.

There are twin studies that just look at the heritability of IQ regardless of race. If you accept those as valid, along with the racial IQ gap, what more is there to say?

We'll probably never know what the split is, but would you at least concede that intelligence is partly genetic?

It intersects massively with what you believe. How is your hypothetical gommie state going to deal with a growing of unruly, unemployable people who trail miles behind everyone else? What will you do that hasn't already been tried?

I can't believe I'm being accused of this by someone who denies the effect of race on IQ and crime stats. Man, my ENTIRE position is based on stats alone.

So the fact that some people are less suited to a communist/socialist/anarchist/fascist government means nothing to you? I'd consider that some useful and important info.

What? You have to be fucking with me.

It's not an obligation. You can suffer as much as you want; it's your own duty to alleviate your own suffering; that dosen't mean that we can't help other people through compassion, as we all suffer.

Help people out of compassion for their suffering; but the elimination of their suffering is ultimately a personal journey for every person. I think however it is a duty to create an environment for this cultivation for every person. You may disagree, and that's fine. One reason why I am a socialist is because I want to provide everyone with a basis upon which to eliminate suffering.

The understanding comes when you realise that all phenomena are impermanent, unsatisfactory and void of any self. It dosen't suffice to understand this on an intellectual level, it requires "seeing" it for yourself.

You do not need to apply value judgements to every phenomenon. There is no reason to believe the universe is "degenerate"; it suffices to understand that the universe operates on laws that we judge as bad or unfair.

For example within Buddhism we have the law of kamma (action and reaction for every being that suffers) and samsara (the beginingless cycle of suffering that can only be exited via realisation [nibbana]); these are not declared to be inherently bad things, it's just that samsara is unfavorable for us, so it would serve us well to escape from it.

Localized degeneracy? What does this mean?

No, this is not a logical conclusion. The conclusion is that there is no dependently arisen phenomenon in which there is self. This does not lead to the conclusion that "nothing exists"; rather, it says that things exist, but we just shouldn't identify with them because they are not 'self' as I defined before.

Better be psychotic and loved than sane and some.

Besides which let us be real in order to manage a relationship for almost a year while you don't, that's just me being more 'sane'. Able to handle resources better

According to your own belief it makes you inferior to me, mentally speaking.

That'd be rude to say, but you do it to yourself

Why is this fucking thread still up

You don't get it. It's irrelevant. You can know if a specific person have X or Y tendencies. Putting a social construct on top that, race, just obfuscates the information. You can keep that in a database and know it. You don't have to use primitive tribalistic instincts to define someone's traits by how they look on the outside to you, especially if it's easily proven there will be cases where that judgment will be wrong.

You don't understand the difference between race and genetics do you? Race and genetics aren't the same thing. Neither is race the same thing as 'being a criminal' or 'being dumb' or 'being smart'.

You know that there are 'jews' out there that are mentally disabled. There is a portion of the 'white' population that are career criminals, also ones that are functionally disabled. There are 'black' people in the genius IQ range.

These are conflicting data points. You can organize people by what's important to you. You don't have to put an arbitrary social construct on top.

If you think averages always mean something then you don't know fucking math, there are other factors to consider. If you keep on getting inconsistent data, adding it all together and dividing doesn't magically make the inconsistent data go away.

Part of the job of a scientist is to organize the data so that the inconsistent data goes away. They have classes on stuff like this in college called the 'philosophy of science.'

...

So you're saying don't judge people based on averages because some of them won't fit the average.

Okay. But if they do fit the average over half the time, is it not worth keeping that average in mind?

What makes you think that? It is an awareness of both that brought me to my current conclusion.

There are no conflicting data points. All are in line with what I have already said. There exists variation within each race, but there are also distinct averages.

I'm going to creampie my gf tonight and subvert the white race by mixing my genes with a mestizo.

You were never white user. Have fun.

Top quality thinking there, friend

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What's the rest, user?

Afraid I'm white as the driven snow bucko. But I will have lots of fun pumping that pure European baby batter into a brown qt.

I'm not being serious. I have no idea what you are or whether you even have a woman willing to accept your impoverished Marxist chode.

Where's she from?

I seriously hope there's a good dose of ebin trole going around here, otherwise I don't think this semen slurping alt-right ideology is for me, guys.

((You know that there are 'jews' out there that are mentally disabled. There is a portion of the 'white' population that are career criminals, also ones that are functionally disabled. There are 'black' people in the genius IQ range.))

I already described conflicting data points.
What's above is just what I've repeated in like 2 or 3 posts so far.

The variation IS the problem. That's called people that don't fit into your paradigm, which means you're looking at something from the wrong angle in the first place. You'll never be right, because you can't never make the data fit the explanation.


Race is something that came about because slavery had become unpopular, and indentured servitude was becoming unpopular as well. People didn't like the whole obvious exploitation thing, and so they needed a justification for enslaving people from generation to generation. Beforehand they would capture children from europe, and then just repeatedly buy and sell them for 5 years or whatever duration contracts over and over again for their entire life. They did this shit to the Irish too, said they were subhuman.

That's why early on you had landowners that 'black' who had 'white' indentured servants, which were functionally slaves, which started to disappear as some people spread around this ideology.
And eventually they got what they wanted, the justification in a social environment that was anti-slavery that slavery was justified, because 'black' people were made into an exception because of their inherent inferiority.

That is what race is. It is a remainder from that. People being brainwashed by greedy people who wanted an avenue of exploitation. Before that, 'black' people were doing things and owning land and doing normal shit like everybody else. Then you had this switch.

Being 'black', being 'white', being 'whatever', has nothing to do with the qualities of an individual. It affects nothing.

Being 'white', my friend, is a spook. Being 'black' is a spook. Being a 'whatever' is a spook.

There is nothing inherent in the universe about these things. There is no stamp saying that this is the way the world is inherently organized.

Leave people alone; let them be themselves.

Racialism, and how it came about, is just like religion. Shameless liars birthed ignorant liars.

No, there is no universal basis for race. But there is a planetary one and for now, that's where we are.

What is that picture supposed to show?

Yes there are user, but these are outliers or people with genetic diseases. They're irrelevant.

There are definitely smart, capable blacks. Again, these people are on the far side of the curve. The average white is still a standard deviation above the average black.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

Does that mean that your autism doesn't count towards the white people gryffindor points?

That sounds awfully convenient, lad :^)

Your way of organizing people is arbitrary. The same thing was done to 'Slavs'and the 'Irish' at different points in history. Now they are 'white'. It's all arbitrary.

It's misinforming. It's inherently misinforming.

Whether or not this next suggestion is good thing or not is another debate… But if you want a place with no criminals, then just simple select for people with no criminal record, which we know. If you want a place with no low iq people, then select for people with high iq, which is something we track and know.

Why is it so hard to grasp that your obsession with race is an irrelevant fetish?

This is incorrect in a few ways. Race itself is an arbitrary term, but that doesn't mean there is not a genetic relation between an individual and the population they belong to or descended from. If you compare gene clusters, you'll see that people from similar locations ON AVERAGE have similar genotypes. Every individual gene is not necessarily uniform through out the population, but given enough genes for comparison, you can tell origin to a high degree of certainty.

However "black," and "white" are a socially defined collection of these populations.

You're an idiot.

Of course racism and sexism still exist and need to be addressed. But I think for the most part the ID left's approach to solving these issues just serve to make social tensions even worse and further divide people.
In a way I agree with the latter. I see race issues, gender issues, etc. as organic parts of the capitalist superstructure. We can address them by addressing the economic issues.

We're talking about two different things. You're talking about uncle Adolf demonizing slavs for war propaganda. I'm talking about racial groups with distinct norms, traits and genetic markers.

Do you think 23andme is some capitalist hoax? You're not equidistant from every member of the human family. That's retarded.

It's good at least that you've moved onto population groups which do have some scientific interest.

However, again they are still irrelevant in this case. Because if you want all the high iq, you can select for all high iq people out of any population group. If you want all the people who don't commit crimes out of any population group, you can select for those people.

'Variation.' You can select all the 'high iq' people from the 'variation' of all the population groups.

There you go.

I already answered that in that same post, idiot.
And do you really think murderers have much in common with the general populace based on skin color? And save me the "from the neck up" memeing, you get what I mean.


Condescension is not an argument.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_medieval_Europe

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The major European languages, including English, used variations of the word "slave", in references to Slavic laborers of Byzantium.
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I'm surprised you didn't catch onto the origin of the word 'slave.'

You're also dumb, but in a different way. While race can be defined genetically, measuring something like "being capable," or "smart," is much more difficult. Often you will see studies of how IQ is heritable, and they will then equate this with "intelligence is heritable, and this is how you know." This is founded on the assumption that IQ is an accurate measurement of intelligence. It also assumes that a strong correlation between something means that there is necessarily a causal relationship, and that the gene clusters explored fully express this relationship.

This question in my mind is the incorrect merger of philosophy in science in a way that does not apply. Science does not prove things, it is an effort to support a hypothesis. To say that a bit of statistics supports something founded upon so many assumptions and confounding variables is a bit weak.

We do see a genetic relation between populations. However, we cannot make many conclusions based off of this. Just about the only current use is to connect population to having a statistically higher chance to be a carrier of a disease.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Twin studies have long since predicted that intelligence genetics would be extremely less polygenic and that we would find these genes soon, they failed to prove this. They are hardly useless studies but they have proven far less useful in understanding IQ than we thought.

If what you say is correct, blacks are perfect for a fascist government.

#triggered

Why are Holla Forumsyps so obsessed with the notion that Europeans are supermen and all others are savages?
Lacan's ghost is smfhing at this thread.

But wait, I thought Europeans did everything of value in human history. Keep moving those goalposts, Hando.

Why are you talking about eugenics? Of course you can apply selection pressures to evolve different populations, given sufficient control and time.

I wasn't that poster.

This thread is a little worse than that, we're dealing with pseudoscience fans, as their debate tactics show.

Notably, they are using the bait-and-switch fallacy ITT. They are citing statistics everyone and their mother knows, then using these statistics to draw conclusions that they cannot possibly substantiate because they require empirical evidence that does not exist. Whenever we question these conclusions, they accuse us of ignoring the statistics they base them off of, which gives them an excuse to call us dishonest demagogues, at least in their warped minds.

We're dealing with people that are highly adept to bullshitting their way out of an argument, while typical Holla Forumsyps are just memers that got too caught up in the fray. They can be saved, but some people are too deep in the hole to pull out. They're probably from TRS or something.

Ironically, this means that they are bigger threats to a cohesive society than whom they are whining about, even if what they say was theoretically true.

I'm not talking about eugenics. I mean selecting actual individuals out of a population, as individuals, as actual people. It has nothing to do with heredity. It only has to do with the actual qualities in a living person.

Holla Forumsyps say that Whitey is master-race. Dumb liberal says race is a social construct. Heroes of the working class explain that race can be explained genetically, but there isn't enough data to suggest that its existence has meaningful implications.

Fug. This explains a lot of hardcore Holla Forums morons.
Treatment Resistant Schizophrenia?
Anyway, this just shows how important it is to double down on talking points/logic and generating countermemes to deprogram alt-right basement dwellers before they're beyond hope.
We need to make troll pics that dispel racial pseudo-science, among other things.

This describes how I feel to a tee.
Even if ethnic or racial differences exist on some level, the real enemy is the ruling class, not some random prole who doesn't look like me.

I never argued such a thing, although maybe you have problems on anonymous image boards. Of course there are individuals in a population who deviate from the average of your population. The existence of someone fitting the average is actually very unlikely, since it's a variation in so many genes and their cis and trans acting factors.

I am simply making the argument that the existence of race is not a purely social construct. Additionally, I am saying that we can't make much valuable genetic conclusions from the genomic data.

IQ is the best measure of intelligence currently available.

More importantly, you've conceded more or less everything, so what are you even arguing? That their dysfunction is illusory?

How am I a genocidal monster for not wanted HUD ferals dropped into my nice quiet neighborhood?

I think genetic differences exist, but race only make a mockery of them.

Some people are genetically predisposed to give birth to retard babies. Should they be allowed to breed simply because they happen to be white?

You are trying to depict blacks as being so pathologically evil that they cannot be allowed to live.

If you hate blacks and don't want to be near them, then fucking don't be near them. It's not our problem.

GG

Holla Forumsyps are against porn, so they cockblocked us the best way they can.

By relentlessly talking about how they hate them god dang negroes and how they're all special snowflakes.

Yes.

No.

Races have nothing to do with who should breed. If we're playing eugenics, though, races should breed with each other to "dilute," genetic diseases out of the gene pool.

I was speaking from a Holla Forums perspective, I agree in general. In fact, people with Downs predisposition can avoid making tard babbies entirely if their partner does not have it.

I would point this out to the Holla Forumsyp if he replied but I guess he got butthurt and left.

It does annoy me that I found all those PDFs and citable statistics but he outright ignored them.

The thing about genetic diseases is we're really not all too far off from being able to just straight up safely edit gametes and remove them entirely from the population. That's yet another reason for socialism, because otherwise the rich will be able to afford to eliminate disease, while the poor will continue to die.

Really? With that amount of division between you it's a wonder how you anarchists ever get anything done.

Oh wait

I think this is why Holla Forums gets triggered whenever genetic therapy is brought up. They know it's close enough to consider politically, but it takes away what they consider to be an excuse to be wanton sociopaths.

lol
Imagine the existential crisis

This will never cease to amaze me, really.

But they're part of the white power race. They're just kept down by the Judeo-Marxist-Lizardman conspiracy.
LOOK AT THE JPEGS!

That's me as well tbh. Minus the basement dwelling.

attic dwelling really isn't too much better though

You called me an idiot so I thought I was arguing with the Holla Forums poster.

I'm not saying that heredity doesn't exist.

I mean make your selections based on the testing of specific qualities in individuals from the entire population, without restriction via population group or whatever.

And this is hypothetical, I don't encourage this sort of extreme classism.

What I'm saying is that if you want the group of 'humans' with no criminal record, you can have that. You don't have to limit yourself to one population group. Why would you?

Ultimately, you will find people that match or don't match your criteria in each population group. You don't even think about who is in what population group. It doesn't matter.

You have a bunch of humans. These humans fit your criteria, they're in.

Want all the geniuses? Select all the geniuses.

What I'm saying is that population groups are an interesting study, but usually irrelevant… Because your criteria exist within a range within that population group. It's occam's razor applied.

Population groups are a historical curiosity and useful for medical science, but won't help you understand much else.

I get this same reaction when I explain to people that gender is a social construct. They think I'm saying that having a penis doesn't make you male or having a vagina doesn't make you female. It's the distinction between biological sex and a social role.

These things require nuance; it's also why it's hard to communicate, and why on the other side of the spectrum you have people who now seem to believe that biological sex really doesn't exist..

… sigh …

Don't be rude

At least you're not arrogant enough to consider yourself superior to someone due to divine right

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>>>/christian/

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Just leaving this here

I will be using this helpful guide many a time.

Inbreeding happens with all island nations, you think I was joking? Just means the 95% Icelandic population is still probably near the 50% Irish figure, due to all the genocide/abductions.

No, man, it's pretty bad there. Not that poster, but I visited Iceland a few months ago and heard all about it.

You caught me! I'm actually a nigger!

I believe that often times, the alleviation of suffering as a goal in and of itself leads to corruption and decay. I for the most part disagree with imperialism and the 'meth addiction.' In an attempt to civilize people and prevent them from starving, we turned the continent of Africa from a standard tribal place to an overpopulated shithole. Its people were much happier when they were naked and ignorant.


Hold the phone, buddy. This is something that literally can only be understood intellectually. You can't understand it based on experience because there are quite a few things more permanent than a single human.


Not every one, no, but you do need some sort of coherent value structure, and basing it on natural phenomena does a decent job of that.


There is something to be said for that, regardless, however, it is well understood that if you buy into those concepts, you are to struggle against them.


Degeneracy of the familiar, that which eats away at the moral framework of the self and the community. Defining threats as exclusively external is equivalent to suicide.


You defined what self isn't before. Give me a working positive definition of self.


>heh, stupid meth-using nazi (because all nazis use meth), I caught you in an INTELLECTUAL CHECKMATE

you are incredibly incoherent. Reformulate that post and try again.

they don't need too, they have programs that just preemptively archive everything you and everyone else does.

Ever hear of "snowden"?

I have a question user,

I understand that you advocate for a society that is culturally and racially segregated, correct?

Here's the thing. I fucking love eating Mexican food. I also think Indian food is delicious as hell. I enjoy playing Japanese video games. I am studying Chinese, and I think their calligraphy is super interesting. I'm a huge Hip-hop fan and listen to rap music by black artists nearly every day.

I have never bought into the liberal doctrine that a multicultural life is more enriching, or is in any way better than living in a homogeneous cultural society. I simply enjoy doing these things for no reason in particular.

My question is: What is the appeal of Nazi to people like me? I simply have no desire to live in a racially segregated society, as it would make all these things entirely unavailable to me.

Setting aside the degeneracy of those things for a moment, let's clear up several misconceptions:

While a racially segregated society is certainly a goal, at least in the sense that we want to allow private citizens to have the right to discriminate, you're confusing us with the SJWs who care a cultural appropriation. In whiteopia, for example, there's not going to be a law against eating tacos or drawing Chinese characters. In a racially segregated society, you could get all your exotic goods as long as they're either produced by local white people or we're not embargoing the place that produces them. The point of all this is to produce a coherent high trust society. You don't need a Mexican to make chalupas

On the contrary, you need a Mexican to invent chalupas, you need an inventor to propagate to their population for it to become "iconic," and you need a chalupas eating population to meet to teach you how to recreate it.

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So I guess Nazi is not for me then, given my degenerate lifestyle?

FYI, you will wind up sending half of America to the ovens if people who participate in non-white cultures' traditions(and refuse to give up doing so) are practicing 'degeneracy' in your ideal society. But that probably wouldn't bother you so never mind.

You're not technically wrong, user, insofar that what you say is possible, but I still have to call bullshit.

You know as well as I do that the extremely vast majority of people who want racial segregation to return are not like Holla Forums where half of them watch anime while eating the doner kebab they bought on the way home. Racialists are some of the most socially authoritarian people around. They want to live in a fifties sitcom where all fun and free expression is banned.

Anything that is in any way related to non-European culture is a cardinal sin. Metro 2033 is getting another sequel? Too bad, Slavs aren't really white.

look, if you're doing "state socialism" or rather the only kind of legitimate socialism, marxism-leninism, what do you expect them to do?

please bear the available recording technologies and former social norms in mind. now tell me, what do you expect them to do? do you really think the porn industry in capitalist nations was anything they could've looked at and think "well that's something nice we want to socialize"?
start a collectively run porn industry of their own?

just stop being such a fucking capitalism apologet and look behind the facade of porn. sexuality in any socialist state was way more liberated and far from the prudish hypocrits in the west. people got education on sexuality and women were independent.

if you want to argue for a different way of dealing with sexuality in the future, go ahead, i'm with you, but take your 2016 liberal standards and shove them up your ass before imposing them on the fucking last century.

I dont understand why this is such a big fetish.

Wrapping meat, vegetables, cheese and sauces in some form of flatbread isn't particularly innovative.

I don't think you read my whole post.

The trouble is that we need values imposed on standard cultural issues, and a lot of the 'racialists' you're talking about are relatively old and don't completely understand new things. Video games, foreign food (in the sense that its origin lies in another country) and foreign calligraphy are not degenerate in and of themselves, but they are insofar as they promote societal decay.

Because jews designed porn to drive a wedge in between western men and women. The same is true of MGTOW, feminism, MRA stuff, etc.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Men did that themselves.

What do you want proof for?

I see you have been well taught by the powers that be. OY VEY! It's the patriarchy! Ignore the fact that the proliferation of disgusting and degrading porn didn't start until the 60s, right when 'feminism' had its huge success in pushing the sexual revolution. Virtually everything related to the over-sexualiztion and objectification of women can be traced to that point in time. Western society prior to that looked down on that sort of thing.

Right because in the explosion of mass media both pornography and feminism had larger notice by society in large. There must be pattern in there, somewhere. Conspiracy in there somewhere.

Tell me, have you heard of apophenia?

With this and all the concern with the rape, one would claim they're actually assuming feminist positions :^)

I'd ask you who controlled the media then, and who controls it now, but you'd just say "Cis-het white men!"


You say patriarchy, I say Jewery.

In a lot of ways, we line up with "sex-negative" feminists. Obviously, our ideological cores differ, but be both notice similar problems that modernity and savage degenerates cause.

The Irish

savage degeneracy…..

For once I find myself in complete agreement with a nazi.

Men and women, despite having different social roles prior to second wave feminism, did respect what each other did.

It is disgusting, yes.

At our core, we stand against the creeping tide of degeneracy that inches its way into any society where decadence abounds. While 'rights' is fundamentally a degenerate concept, there is much to be said of the promotion of the dignity of all members of a society.

If you want to go back to the past, you might as well kill yourself because nobody is waiting for you.

If you want to live in a world where men view women primarily as sex objects, keep congratulating yourself for the modernity that feminism has produced. If you ever want to create a world where degenerate cum-worshippers are not the norm, the solution is in front of you.

And it doesn't involve traditionalist retards who see meth addled prison fascists as their allies. It doesn't involve you or your beliefs. It never will.

Sounds hot. How can I get my gf down for it?

The key to every girl's dark heart is their feet. Trust

Drug addicts get popped in the ovens, same with the other degenerates.


Leftist revolutions have been completely co-opted by capitalism. All your 'I'm a feminist' products are produced in factories where the means of production are very definitely owned in ways that benefit only an investor class. The only thing left is right-wing traditionalism to reinvigorate society. Without that, society will spiral downwards and the only political discussions that will be had will be about who gets what cummies. Disgusting!


Due to the jewish propaganda she has been subjected to, she already is.

There goes half the Ameican neo nazi population. Who'd support you then with the Aryan Brotherhood gone?


What the fuck are I'm a feminist products.


hahahahahahaha good luck with that without the Aryan Brotherhood muscle behind you. You're left with jealous lonely autists.


Amazing

What about causal users that just enjoy blazing up from time to time?

Already got that covered. Anything else?

Fucking fantastic. Thank you based kikes.

Most people are freakier than you'd think as long as you don't want water sports or scat

Why is thread still up?
Are nazis still trying to convince us that having fun is wrong because some jew once had fun?

huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/03/feminist-t-shirt-sweatshop_n_6094722.html


White people who actually accomplish things simply need to be woken up. It's true that racial solidarity is what is turned to by those with few accomplishments of their own (which explains La Raza and BLM), but soon hard-working whites are going to see that they have group interests worth protecting.

Against the wall.

Cummies are not that far removed from poopies.

I'm aware of that, but savage degeneracy sounds particularly hot and I'd like some. What exactly is it?


You have to ask?

>huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/03/feminist-t-shirt-sweatshop_n_6094722.html

Most of my t shirts are black with nothing on them am I a feminist too


You've been saying this in the 50's too. The 60's. The 70's. Always the opposite happened.

To the chagrin of this nazi fellow here. I have a story to tell of one of naughty savage disgusting degeneracy that's purely naughty.

I pegged a dude once it was pretty fun. I think that's as degenerate as you can get? I think I've crossed that boundary, I don't know if you can though.

Otherwise I'd say strictly, homosexuality is still a nice introduction into the naughty degenerative lifestyle.

Maybe watch Pink Flamingos a couple times

I don't want proof. You're making subjective claims, faggot. Kill yourself.

You're missing the point. 'Feminist' is one more consumer product to be sold to fill in the hole of identity that the globalized neo-liberal economy denies you in the west.

There's where you're wrong bucko. Say what you want about Trump's motivations, but "Make America Great Again" is a call of implicit whiteness.


You're a horrible storyteller.

this is your brain on leftism

Scatfag here. Get on my level, bitch.

I never asked for evidence.

Not really into playing with my ass or other guys. What else can I do to reach savage degeneracy?

In fact, I said there wasn't evidence. Because you made a subjective claim. Retard.

Every revolution has its mistakes, ours too. That is not in itself bad, since they mostly disappear on their own or with time. The important thing is that those in charge keep their eyes open, and do not remain silent when they ought to speak out of fear of the public. Obviously, an historic revolution of vast extent brings a mass of nonsense to light along with its enormous benefits.

It becomes dangerous only when the nonsense is left to grow, thus hemming in and strangling the healthy, organic development of the revolution.

It is time today to expose some of this nonsense that has accompanied the Not Socialist revolution to the full light of day, to examine it without pity.

That is even more necessary, since otherwise some of this nonsense over time may gradually corrupt the style and nature of our revolution, leaving to posterity an image of our nature and goals that in no way corresponds to Not Socialist convictions and views.

Certainly there is need for public regulation of the great moral foundations of our national life. However, some nonsense is also spreading that attempts to reach beyond that to establish a code for the purely personal conduct of individuals.

That leads eventually to a moralism that is everything other than Not Socialist.

Peculiar people whose life is either behind them, or have no right to have one ahead of them, preach moralism in the name of our revolution. This moralism often has nothing in common with true morality. They proclaim ethical laws that might be appropriate for a nunnery, but are entirely out of place in a modern cultural state.

An example. In a major central German city an advertising poster for a soap company showed a fresh, attractive girl holding the soap package in her hands. A moral knight who unfortunately had the right to determine the fate of this poster forbade its distribution on the ground that it offended the moral sensibilities of the population, since the woman in the poster was holding the soap in a place “that for moral reasons cannot be described more precisely.”

What is moral about this? The person announcing the ban, who presumes that other people share his dirty fantasies, or the German people and the Not Socialist movement, that are rightly upset and in opposition to such a ridiculous action?

Investigating the matter, we find that this wonderful citizen discovered his attraction for Not Socialism three months after we took power, which however did not stop him from issuing the ban in the name of Not Socialism.

Things have gone so far that this company of moralists does not stop at the borders of private life. They would love to establish purity committees in cities and the countryside that would keep on eye on Müller’s and Schulze’s love and marriage life. It is true that they do not want to go so far as to ban kissing altogehter, as in the familiar operetta, since it is too popular a pastime. If it were up to them, however, they would turn Not Socialist Germany into a wasteland of muttering and complaining, a place where denunciation, spying, and extortion were the order of the day.

These same moralists often turn to government offices with the request to ban films, plays, operas, and operettas, since the dancers, stars, etc., apparently represent a grave danger to public decency. If we gave in to their demands, we should soon see only old ladies and men on the screen or the stage. The theaters would be empty, since the public generally does not attend them to see the same people they see in church or old people’s homes.

Save us from these hypocritical creatures who have no genuine strong conception of life, and who in reality preach no honest morality. They generally are life’s losers, protesting life itself. Eternal life and its laws will hardly make way for them; at most, they will hide behind a screen of contemptible hypocrisy and dishonest prudery.

They think that the German woman should not go out alone, she should not sit alone in a restaurant, she should not go out with a boy or even an S.A. man without a chaperone for a Sunday afternoon excursion, she should not smoke, she should not drink, she should not wash up and make herself pretty, in short she should do everything to keep the evil interest of a man away from her. That is, at least, is how these midget moralists think a German woman should behave. And woe to the poor womanly creature who has the misfortune to transgress against one of these laws. Of course, no German woman will have bobbed hair, since only Jewesses and other contemptible creatures do that.

Have these moral trumpeters any idea how they slander and demoralize millions of German women with their preaching, women who bravely and honestly do their duty in life and on the job, who are good comrades to their men and sacrificing mothers for their children?

don’t they realize that they embarrass Not Socialism throughout the world, that they are thirty years too late, or that one must take them to task because they are beginning to be annoying? There are good and bad women, decent and less decent women, some with bobbed hair, some without. Whether or not they powder their noses is not a sign of their inner worth, and if they occasionally smoke a cigarette at home or in society, they do not need to feel rejected or cast out.

In any event, these moralists should not sit in judgment over women, whether they are enemies or even if like all real men they wish women happiness, relaxation, and domestic peace, though their stuffy superiority would keep women from it.

They think it is not Not Socialist to enjoy life; but rather one should only look at the dark side of human existence. Pessimism and suspicion are the best teachers in our earthly vale of sorrows. A true Not Socialist has no cause to protect these miserable creatures. Primitiveness and absolute rejection of pleasure are the only character values to these people. If one has a clean and a dirty collar, one puts the dirty one on to give evidence of his hatred of bourgeois values. A man with a good and a bad suit wears the bad one, particularly for festive occasions, for it shows the astonished world how revolutionary his outlook is. He dislikes joy and laughter; people should have nothing to laugh about.

Are we living in a pietistic state, or in the age of life-affirming Not Socialism?

No one can suspect us of wanting to live lives of ostentation or luxury. The Führer and many of his close comrades neither smoke nor drink nor enjoy sumptuous living. Those, however, who want to rob a nation of sixty million of every pleasure and all traces of optimism are contemptible, entirely aside from the fact that their foolish desires would drive countless people into poverty and misery.

Every banned activity makes more people unemployed; if no one can drive a car, the automobile factories will shut down, if no one wears a new suit, the looms and tailors will have nothing more to do; if people no longer attend movies or the theater, hundreds of thousands of stage and film employees will depend on public assistance.

To take joy and pleasure from a people means to make it unfit for its struggle for its daily bread.

He who does that sins against our reconstruction efforts and embarrasses the Not Socialist state before the whole world.

The result would be a dreary impoverishment of our public life. That we will not accept.

We do not want to abolish pleasure, but rather to let as many as possible share in it. That is why we encourage people to attend the theater, that is why we give workers the opportunity to dress well for festive occasions. That is the reason behind Kraft durch Freude. That is why we shake off the agents of a prudish hypocrisy, why we do not allow decent, hard-working people who have every reason to need relief from their hard daily labors, who need to reaffirm life, to recover from the weariness, cares, and burdens of every day, to have their necessary pleasures ruined by the eternal chicanery of these pedants.

We need more affirmation of life and less complaining! More morality, but less moralism!

So tired of this.

Like I said. The worship of cummies leads to the worship of filth in and of itself.

You issued a challenge using nigger hieroglyphs:

I don't worship Gobbles, buddy. I think that he's wrong here. The Nazis lost, obviously.

"Liberalism exists" says nazi to group of people he's clearly never read.

Forget pesky facts, Marxists throughout history love liberalism.


Ok

Getting dominated? Idk. I think savage degeneracy has to have a kind of shall we say, homo-eroticism and questioning of sexual roles.

Idk read History of Sexuality and get kinky with power roles.

Still, I think you are missing my point. Feminism is now just one more tentacle of the neoliberal monster that sits in New York and Tel Aviv, slurping down the soul of the west. Most feminists you find in the media will call themselves "compassionate capitalists." They're mere puppets for a system that will, if left unchecked, destroy everything good about the human spirit. Say whatever you want about "true" marxists, but Holla Forums is one corner of one obscure imageboard.


Daily reminder that John Waters is a degenerate promoting filth and is indirectly responsible for the aids epidemic.

Why don't you convert to Islam? Genuine question.


How about holding hands and making eye contact?

Yeah, if your fragile ego is so shattered by greentext, then sure, take it as if I actually thought you had that capacity to overcome it.

Degenerate cum worsippers. They fuck goats, they take sex slaves, they pay models to poop on them. Their entire afterlife is an imagined hedonistic sex land. Muhammad was an insane cum worshipping pedophile who made up a religion to acquire more cummies.

Take yourself a chill pill, bucko.

We already do that, but sometimes you want to fuck hard and savage.

Ah yes. This "Feminism" is a uniquely contemporary phenomenon. Do you have any other interesting observations, Cletus?


Ah yes. Liberals exist. Do you have any other interesting observations, Cletus?


Ah yes. Liberals exist. Do you have any other interesting observations, Cletus?


Sounds more like you by removing what has contributed to humanity creatively since the beginning, drugs, from shamanism to oracles to authors.

By removing homosexuality, when arguably, it's brought people together in an entirely new shade, women can fall in love more often, men can fall in love more often. Sure we have sexually transmitted diseases, but you never cared about those afflicted anyways, and in the past, Syphilis effected heterosexuals in larger amounts than present homosexuals suffer from a variety. Safe sex has leveled out disease more than its ever been leveled out.

If all your politics and ideals come down to traditionalism and bitching about those gosh darn liberals, then you're mistaken it will ever be permanent. It requires a society that's always at its current, as soon as, hypothetically and unrealistically, you come to power; your politics become obsolete because you've solved the problem and developed opposition. You fail to realize where there is power there is always resistance.


Sounds fun.

Are you sure you don't want to try it? I mean, you sound like that caliph guy.

Degenerate cum worsippers

Did you forget to switch flags?

Ah yes. Naxalt, indeed.


Prove it. Humanity has only become more unhappy since its normalization.


they affect degenerates and those that lie with degenerates. We have medicine that treats it, but it only papers over the degeneracy underneath.

If it were practiced commonly, AIDS would not be the pandemic it is.


Agreed, to a point. You can't rely on traditionalism by itself, then you're just another LARPer wearing a viking helmet and dancing around the woods, getting drunk on mead and acting like a degenerate. You need to combine it with a fundamental shift in the moral paradigm sold to us over the last 300 years. One shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, unless the baby is a degenerate. I do see the false dichotomy you're trying to make here, though

tell that to Beethoven.


Which Caliph guy? If he's associated with ISIS, there's a 100% chance he's in it for the cummies.

Humanity since secularization, as much as it has been ever, has seen the opposite. People are happier than they've ever been, though this has dipped in recent years, it's nowhere compared. Simplifying history as "Now" and "Then", furthers you've never actually cracked open a history book in your fucking life. There are peaks, there are valleys.

What is known is people were a lot fucking unhappier in the past, generally. If we are to be asinine and speak "in general" and not in specifics.


One of your ancestors you worship probably had syphilis.


Smaller currently than syphilis. Dominated faster than syphilis

I can't find the data right now, but I've seen survey data that happiness has been on the decline for the last few decades. This study doesn't exactly show it, but it does indicate something is going on with the happiness of women in spite of the march forward of progressivism.

nber.org/papers/w14969


from where do you draw that conclusion? Is it because you've "actually cracked a history book" (which I assume means you read some women's studies literature that didn't cite any sort of verifiable data but made a bunch of subjective claims based on modern ideological assumptions)


So?


So?


He didn't revel in his degeneracy. He created art to elevate the human spirit, not to masturbate it.

I'll just leave this here…

Alright, so porn consumption isn't related to rape. I wasn't making that argument and that still doesn't make porn not degenerate.

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Literal nazi thinks that oppression makes people happy and fulfilled.

I never would have expected this.

What other nuggets of wisdom does the Ministry of Truth have for us?

Probably because most countries banned it to begin with so obviously they would ban it too