Why did Hitler ally with Arabs?

Is there a specific reason why Hitler allied with Amin al-Husseini to form the Free Arab Legion, and also created the Muslim 13th SS division in Bosnia?
Was it just because he needed more allies?
Was it because they were redpilled on the Jews?
Did he believe Arabs were somehow redeemable?
Was he a cuck?

Because no one else would. Why did the US ally with somalia?

Arabs were owned by the Frech and British empires and the Britush intended to give Palestine to the Jews and had announced it some time ago. Siding with Hitler would enable them to rule their own deserts without British and French interference. Some Arab countries were more like client states but still resented nominal British control. Only the Saudis had a relatively even relationship with the British I think.

This, and their religion is final solution friendly.

The Arabian peninsula was never part of the German Empire and, thus, held no interest to Hitler. What they did have, however, was newly discovered, virtually limitless, oil reserves.

The Saudi Kingdom wasn't owned by anyone by the time Hitler came to power. The Wahhabi revolution established the Kingdom in 1932, Hitler was elected in 1933.

Hitler saw that the antisemitic arabs were of greater importance to him then cooperating with the Zionists and the chosen to send all the jews back to Israel. There's a piece about it in The New Babylon. The grand Mufti was friends with many a antisemite, him being the arab ruler of Jerusalem

1. Use the QTDDTOT thread
2. Hitler allied with Palestinians because they were against the Jews.
3. Arabs were seen as good allies because they could fight against British/French colonial lords.
4. Bosnians were together with Croats against the Serbian/Yugoslavian partisans, as thus they were seen as an ally..

Look at a map of the middle east during WWII

Pretty easy to figure out considering the British/French did the same thing to the Turks 25 years prior

That too, especially Shia Muslims.
Just look at Hezbollah, they love Der Führer.
Even though I kinda think they only do it because Hitler gassed kikes, not because of his actual ideas.


We've always had historical discussion on here, newfag

Anyone who would ally with Saracens against their fellow European brothers is a cuck in my book.

shit thread

Comparing Arabs then to Arabs now is like comparing Germans then to Germans now.

Why did Britain ally with Arabs in the Great War?

The enemy of my enemy is a friend. That's all.
Serbs were communists, so Hitler (actually Himmler) chose to support Croats and Bosniaks.

He supported Arab Nationalism, which is pretty based.

Hates the Jews, secular, and keeps Islamists under control. What's not to like?

Reminder that supporting Arab Nationalism is not the same as supporting 'refugess'.

wat

Well, they were teamed with the Ottomans in WWI too.

What is with this meme?

Read Hitler's war and you will know.

He was human.
Not every decision was a gem.

nah m8, islam is irredeemable.
In all forms.
In all eras.
Hitler made a mistake.

He still needed to practice realpolitik to an extent.

strategic purposes of defeating the allies

Oil. War machines ran off of it back then too, plain and simple.

Arabs hate them some kikes, and they're just fine as long as we stay out of each other's countries. They also need really brutal dictators to survive and keep the ultra islam at bay.

But then according to your own words, a great many of them were shitskins too, communist to boost.
Try our hand at shilling here, right Ivan? Or Janunsz? Either way you are irredeemable subhuman scum. You allied with the subhuman half breed from over the Atlantic. And communism.

I would rather the chinks side with him than sandniggers

Too bad the chinks were totally in shit during and just after ww2. They were even more worthless than Japan.

how the thread didn't end here I have no idea
I guess any excuse to we wuz works for the lower races

fuck off french faggot

they lasted the longest fam

not a fransneger

nice source

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I really find no problem with this quote.
April 1945 right? Right before defeat. Every single loud mouthed faggot who cried about "hahwhite nationalism" should have known that "hahwhite brothers" would rather destroy you if you dare not to trade under their terms. They would side with communists before they allow you to leave. Which is quite hilarious and ironic in hindsight.


And? They couldnt exactly kungfu their way to at least Eastern Europe, right? And consider how Japan kicked their teeth in, any notion of chinks going on the offense against the USSR is laughable.

worse

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being dutch is worse? I smell matzo balls

Learn to write English like a White man and then come back, nigger.

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Realpolitik.
Yugoslavia was a mess, no idealism there.
As for the Arabs, he hoped they would rise up and Jihad on his behalf.

He mentions this in his Testament
"In this theatre of operations, then , the Italians prevented us from playing our best card, the emancipation of the French subjects and the raising of the standard of revolt inf the countries oppressed by the British. Such a policy would have aroused the enthusiasm of the whole of Islam. "

Note that this does not mean Hitler would be ok with Muslim immigration to Europe, he criticizes the French for turning into a mulatto state in Mein Kampf.

Note that siding with the Arabs was only a second choice, Hitler would have much preferred to be allies with the British Empire and help them suppress their colonial subjects.

top kek

did it trigger you?

kek'd

Spiritual peoples fighting for self-determination have more in common than soulless faggot commies and kikes.

lel

You need to fucking hang

Seems like a pretty natural alliance imo.

You need to gas yourself Kike

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Something that should not be done again.
Political alliance is far, far, far inferior to tribal and racial alliance.

Especially with muslims, fuck those guys.

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no difference between a kike or a sandnigger, both semitic filth

Every soldier in the Red Army was willingly fighting alongside nonwhites.

All the good Russians either died on the White side in the revolution or fighting for the ROA anyways.

Hard times make strange bedfellows.

Plus, Hitler was super-naïve tbh fam.

And idealist, but idealism doesn't kill Gommies.

It was a war. You look for all the allies you can during a war.


Despite the sentiment many anons have here, the FIGHT EVERYONE ALL THE TIME, EVERYWHERE, IN ENDLESS CONFLICT strategy isn't very effective. Hitler used people who weren't exactly immediate threats to help in the struggle against those who were.

Part of obtaining and growing power is concealing your intentions and throwing out smokescreens. If you just announced to all the world that you wanted to kill all non-whites, then all non-whites will have a reason to ally with each other to fight a common enemy.

If you fight those that need to be purged immediately, then use those you plan to purge later as assets to help you get to where you need to go in the long run, then you'll be able to steadily, systematically remove your enemies, often using them to kill each other.

Don't take every advantage you can over the Jews Goy and don't exploit other peoples natural hatred of them

MIDF pls go

You'll hang with the kikes, traitor

also
You're incredibly oven-worthy, Arab-apoligist filth.

I don't understand the Islam hate. Their values align closely with National Socialism, and Hitler obviously saw that. From fanatical idealism to returning women to a home life, he clearly understood the wisdom of the big three ancient religious systems—which ironically almost mirror each other perfectly, much to Christians' dismay.

Besides, Islam has created a system of polygamy that winnows out inferior men and gives superior men something to strive for. It is a eugenic policy that Hitler could only have adamantly supported if you've read any of his writings. The truth is, women do it anyhow, so there is no reason some poor schmuck should be stuck raising someone else's kid. Islam is honestly more in alignment with warrior culture than any other religion, which is why, barring a return to paganism (which Hitler thought was stupid, due to the people who were pushing for it), Hitler preferred Islam to Christianity. Christianity has a moral code that is often ill-defined and was quite simply nonsensical given the war and depression Germany was facing.

To get rid of the kikes.

It was a marriage of convenience, JIDF boy.

you have to choose one kafir/goy for reasons

Islam is againt everything european including art and classical music, both of which Hitler greatly valued
there is nothing White or European about Islam

islam, and the abrahamic faith in general are anti-human and globalist as fuck, hinduism is the only eastern religion that I give a fuck about

Hitler did a lot of things. He was apparently a Satanist, a Christian, a pagan, an atheist, a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist, a Hindu, a Confucian, a gnostic, and a human being.

Because National Socialism doesn't believe other races are inferior. As Rockwell best put it, other races and cultures are not INFERIOR to our own. There's nothing wrong with appreciating the accomplishments and positive qualities of other races and cultures and working with them for a singular goal.

What National Socialism does entail, however, is acknowledging the Aryan race and Western culture as superior. This doesn't mean others are inferior, it just means that we believe we're the best (which we are) and acknowledge that we're the best (which we sorely need to start doing).

The scourge of global wahabbism hadn't taken hold, Baathism (in its early forms) was beginning to take hold. If Hitler was alive today, he wouldn't ally with Arabs because they seek their own flavor of globalism.

I must admit, it is silly seeing you guys trying to justify literally anything by saying Hitler did it. I bet there's been more than a few faggots saying that Hitler was fine with fags like Ernst Rohm.

Western culture is superior but other culture isn't inferior? Do you even understand what you're saying? Apples are superior to oranges but oranges aren't inferior to apples? Give me a break.

If you say you prefer to eat apples, it doesn't mean you hate oranges.

If you really like one song, it doesn't mean you think other songs are shit.

If you prefer to read one book, it doesn't mean you think all other books aren't worth reading.

Listen to Rockwell talk about it. He puts it better than I do.

You have to say its superior for us. You have to qualify it with 'for us' for what you say to make any sense.

Fuck off, (((marxist))). You contradict yourself and try to dictate what NatSoc is. What a shitty shill post.

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Yeah dude, George Lincoln Rockwell was a bigtime Marxist for sure.

Actually i wonder why Arabs failed to overthrow the British in f.e. Egypt while they were fighting the Germans. They just didnt care?Were they too weak?

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No, I understand what you mean but that's not what inferior/superior means. Preference is not objective moral superiority. Preferring to eat apples is not the same thing as thinking that apples are objectively superior. Western and white culture is superior to any other, and this is not a mere preference. This doesn't mean I hate other cultures but they're inferior and I don't like them.

Yeah, National Socialism is literally anything according to faggots on nu/pol/. A religion, a philosophy, a creed, a sexuality, anything but a political ideology.

You're really missing the point that I'm not dictating what the ideology is. I'm literally paraphrasing the words of the literal founder of the American Nazi Party.

I'm sure that if you like "not-inferior" niggers and their "not-inferior" culture so much, you should go to Africa for a month. Zimbabwe is a good place to start. Tell us what you think when you come back. Make sure to also visit all these great, completely not-inferior Asian cultures and races residing in Turkey, India, Afghanistan, Thailand, China, Philippines and so on. It's not like they shit on the street and kill each other during spare time. Dumb protomarxist, think about what you say to spare yourself embarassment.

Listen to this fucking revisionist kike. Hitler explicitly talked about superior and inferior races in Mein Kampf, and the entire ideology of National Socialism is based around racial hierarchy and superiority.
STOP TRYING TO SHOEHORN YOUR DISGUSTING MARXIST EGALITARIANISM INTO NATIONAL SOCIALISM, YOU DIRTY REDDIT FAGGOT. NATIONAL SOCIALISM BELIEVES IN SUPERIORITY AND INFERIORITY, AND HOLDS ABSOLUTELY NO MORAL RESERVATIONS TO EXERCISING THIS SUPERIORITY IN THE FORM OF SUBJUGATING WEAKER RACES.

This "anti-racist Hitler" meme needs to FUCKING DIE.

GLR didn't found National Socialism as an ideology. There was a lot of cucked shit about his worldview, to be perfectly honest, even if he was a fantastic individual

Modern African niggerculture is shit for sure, but in ancient times they actually did some pretty good shit. There's a big difference between niggers and blacks, and a few thousand years ago, niggers were a hell of a lot rarer.


Quoting Rockwell is all I'm doing. Are you saying the ANP's founder and a massive admirer of Hitler was a fake marxist kikeshill?

Dropped.

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I don't think it's "cucked" to say that you don't want to wipe out other races and cultures. Hitler never asked to do that. Hitler wanted the Aryan race to reign supreme, but he didn't want the extermination of every other race and culture other than his own. That's a kike myth woven into the larger Holocaust myth.

If you perpetuate the idea that Nazis want to eliminate anyone who isn't of their race and culture, you are perpetuating Jewish myth and propagandist ideologies by anti-Nazi Leftists.

I'm saying that his ideology had too much cuckoldry in it he believed no race is inferior

The royalty of Morocco weren't jumping on cars and hanging whitey while flinging Glocks around.

Yes, there's a difference between blacks and niggers.

The Nazi ideology that Hitler perpetuated was too soft then and definitely wasn't perfect. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to exterminate enemy races for white colonisation.

Fucking kill yourself, redditor.

You're trying too hard to fit in here.


In some ways yeah, it was too soft. There are definitely cultures that should be wiped out. However, now you're venturing into the territory of legitimately trying to dictate NatSoc beliefs. Even Rockwell never outright went against Hitler's views. We can't start saying Hitler was wrong about his ideas when he's the one who founded the entire political system to begin with.

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because arabs suck at war
we've been trough this

The "we wuz" shit is all about treating niggers good now because of things their less retarded ancestors did. I'm not saying do that.

You're not trying hard enough, Redditor. If you believe there's any point making the distinction between a nigger and a black man, then you definitely don't belong here
What are you even talking about? All I'm doing is telling you that Hitler's ideology was too cucked and that there is absolutely nothing morally wrong about exterminating enemy races and cultures.
If he rejected the idea of superior and inferior races, then yes he did
He was wrong, though. He advocated a flawed, weaker ideology of what he should have, and he made a lot of mistakes. He allied with shitskin arabs and japs while supporting the destruction of Russia and viewing white slavs as inferior trash.
You don't even know what you're talking about. It was Alfred Rosenberg who layed the ideological framework for the NSDAP, but the ideas themselves are much older and far more ancient for anyone to claim they "created" them. National Socialism is fundamentally an ideology based around nature and natural law

ancient egyptians were not subsaharan africans, you absolute fucking retard

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Jesus Christ, you couldn't make yourself look like a bigger Redditor.
GO THE FUCK BACK

hitler had a common enemy with the arabs, aka die juden. also oil.

This is exactly what the kikes want. Every race fighting against the others, every culture fighting the other.
In an ideal scenario, the whole of Terra will be united and colonizing the stars. Does that mean that it will be white people only? People of European descent only? No, it would true multiculturalism, in the sense that each race and each culture work together for the greater good. What the kikes want is for our strength to go to waste fighting our neighbors while they reap the benefits.


This user is a perfect example of what happens when you take the "we wuz aryans" mentality too far, you end up with somebody wasting their youth calling for the extermination of every race from behind his computer screen. Does this serve any purpose? Yes. The jewish purpose.


Am not calling for some refugee boats or for some more money for dem programs. Not every race is made of geniuses and inventors, but every race had geniuses and inventors. And the difference between a wise man and a hilly billy redneck, is that one wants to waste that energy and that talent because it's not a white person, and the other wants to put those qualities to good use and fight the kike menace.

You're trying too hard, it's obvious you've spent less than six months here and is just in for the "lel im a nazi guys XDD" edginess.

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I'm not sure you know the history of Morocco.


Rosenberg laid the foundations that Hitler expanded upon. I really am not getting how disagreeing with you that Hitler's ideas were cucked makes me a Redditor. It sounds like you're throwing out buzzwords to dismiss an argument you don't like.

You know, the same thing SJW cunts and Leftists do.

Rockwell stated that Aryans are superior. Aryan culture is superior. Both statements are true. However, he also stated that we're not the only ones who've made contributions to the world. That'd be retarded.

Our entire agricultural system, for example, is thanks to Arabs in Mesopotamia. They were doing that shit long before the Aryan race was even really established.

This isn't saying that they were better than us, not at all, but Rockwell was a proponent of advocating for the qualities that other races and cultures have or have had in the past. More than anything else this was done to destroy the kike myth that Nazis wanted to exterminate everyone else in the world.

"Oy vey! The American Nazi Leader is saying that he doesn't want to destroy other races! How can we propagate our lies now?"

The answer is people like those who are getting worked up in this thread, saying that Nazism is too cucked and that we SHOULD try to annihilate anyone who isn't us. You're condoning hook line and sinker to the propaganda and the lies that Jews have been cramming down your brain since birth, the lies they've been infecting society with since day one.

We are superior. We are the best. Therefore, we should show confidence. Viewing every other culture and races as a dire threat to our own makes us look like hysterical pussies.

The only two race/culture groups that pose any threat to us are the Jews and Islamic culture, only because Jews are hyper-racist supremacists who want to control everything that isn't them, and because Islam is an outright xenophobic ideology that wants to kill every single person who doesn't follow it.

Odd how you're asking for Nazism to be the exact same thing as Islam and Judaism, huh?

go back to (((star trek)))

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No, he's saying you need to shut up because you're making rockwell look like an idiot through your own incompetence.
This entire shitstorm could've been avoided if you actually understood how to use words like "superior" without looking like a dumbass.

A controlled opposition is a protest movement that is actually being led by agents that are against the movement. Nearly all governments in history have employed this technique to manipulate and subvert their adversaries. Notably Vladimir Lenin who said ''The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."

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Big difference between being an anti-SJW and throwing out buzzwordy bullshit like "Redditor" and "Go Back" to shut down someone's argument without actually shutting it down.

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I've been here since the first exodus, you fucking Redditor.


knew it

ah yes. the "you're no different than the SJW" remark you faggots always make. All i'm doing is calling a spade a spade, Redditcuck. It's very obvious you're not from around here.

Okay, so this directly contradicts your original statement that "national socialism doesn't believe any races are inferior".
For one, they weren't fucking arabs, and two, you can't credit agriculture as an idea to them, you can only point out that they were the first known people in the Western Hemisphere to discover. We don't "owe" agriculture to them by any means
The Nazis didn't want to exterminate everyone else in the world. I know this. There aren't any reservations in National Socialist thought against this, however.
Give me one reason we shouldn't want to exterminate non-white races
No, you're just trying to shoehorn your egalitarianism-lite bullshit into right wing thought. We aren't taking any bait, you dense moron, we're realising the truth. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to exterminate any races for the survival of our own posterity. Nothing at all.
You have the mentality of a high-schooler. You're like the kind of idiots who claim that people who carry around a gun are "insecure". EVERY race is a threat to our survival and a tool that can be used to destroy us as is happening today. This has nothing to do with "confidence", but our very survival. If we exterminate all non-white threats, then our race cannot succumb to an invader.
East Asians pose a bigger threat than Arabs do. The only reason Arabs are a threat is because of Jew subversion. Asians, however, can pose a threat simply out of their own ingenuity.
You Redditors really make yourselves obvious when you use leftist language like this. Fuck off
Except I'm not, you disingenuous nigger.

Holy shit, there is literally nothing wrong with "hyper-racist supremacism". Fuck off with your leftist ideology.

who the fuck said anything about morocco?
nice job moving the goalposts
and no, they weren't niggers the way you think either

Sorry I made the post easier to read.

Reddit allows you to post comments too, you know, so thanks for that comment you fucking Redditorfag.

Is it so hard to grasp the concept of "superiority doesn't equal inferiority"? Superiority is the polar opposite of Inferiority, but that doesn't mean the subjective take on the concept is all or nothing. Saying one thing is inferior doesn't immediately make something else superior. You can hate one thing and still hate another thing. Hating it a little less doesn't mean it's outright superior. The terms have more than one definition.

Why exterminate other races when you can reform them? Remember that blacks weren't always niggers. The Middle East wasn't always full of muzzies. India wasn't always full of street shitters. I'd say it's better to at least attempt to draw in and reform them instead of saying "fuck it" and throwing them away outright. That's why Hitler sided with the Japs and Arabs.

The problem with that argument is you're again falling into the Jewish myth that Nazism is so threatened by everyone else that it wants to kill everyone else. No, that's Judaism and Islam. No race threatens us aside from the Jew, and no culture threatens us aside from Islam.

If you exterminate all non-white threats, there will still be disunity. There will always be disunity in every belief sect, race, culture, religion, and the like. The problem with your type, the type who've been here for one month and think they suddenly understand all and everything about National Socialism, is that you think exterminating non-white races would solve all of our problems. You don't seem to realize that even without Jews, even without Muzzies, even without Niggers, we would still have problem. We'd still have conflict. Why? Because that's how life works. It's debatable as to whether or not mass-extermination would be a step in the right direction, I'll give you that, but it's absolute retardation to think that just purging all non-whites will magically solve every single problem we face.

Again, the typical rhetoric of someone who's been here for a month, maybe a migrant from half/pol/, who thinks they're experts on NatSoc philosophy and think that the best way to drop opposing arguments is to use buzzwords.

The only Asian race/culture to ever truly threaten us were the Mongols. The Mongols practiced active genocide of non-Mongols and the subjugation of all cultures. They were almost completely singular in identity, race, and ideas. Guess what? They still had infighting, and they still collapsed and fell apart, long before Jewish tricks and long before chimpouts. They were the Mongol form of the perfect one-race world you seem to want, and they tore themselves apart even then.

Xenophobia is a tool of the Jew. It causes us to become too busy fighting each other to realize the true threat. We fight, they profit. Look at any Commie dictator with millions of innocent lives slain by their hand. Their tactics were divide and conquer. Keep everyone against each other and everyone else in order to prevent them from realizing the true threat.

You're right on the Arabs, though, and this whole migrant crisis is an engineering tool by the Marxist-Judaic left just like I described above. Make a problem, control the problem, and convince the good goys to obey you to resolve the problem. That's the type of subversive shit we deal with.


Except it's exactly what Jews and Muzzies want. Aren't we supposed to be better than they are?

Who said anything about Egypt?

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There really needs to be a final solution to the Jewish problem

you implied it by replying to my post about pharaohs, kike

Races have biological and memetic components (That usually reinforce each other), degeneration and evolution occur on both fronts.

Races with undesirable genetics should be destroyed. They could be salvaged with science and eugenics but it's not worth the trouble imho.

Races with unproblematic or interesting genetic lineages are potential vassals or even allies, assuming their cultures are not degenerate or we don't need their land and resources. If they are culturally degenerate and causing us trouble, extermination might be the best solution if the costs of fixing their degeneration are not worth it, or if this is just impossible.

I'm not sure about the arabs but I'm not optimistic. Kikes are irredeemable. Blacks actually have some good things no other race has, I would keep them in reserves of varying level of progress, study them to figure out if there's any hope and go from there, though I understand why some people might think this is not worth the effort.

d&c

hitler wasnt directly involved in cration of such units. the arabs were a reliable ally because they hated the british and french who occupied their land (just as they do jews and americans today), and springing an arab revolt in the middle east would collapse the entire allied bulwark in the region, creating a new stronghold for the germans (turkey was neutral in the war, and sending units over the caucasus was a terrible idea).

as for the bosnian SS, its goes the same as for all balkan units under germany. the germans needed troops for their fight against the soviets, and with guerrila warfare behind the lines its quite difficult. so they set up various organisations, police and auxillary units to deal with the guerrila warfare. they heavely relied on the clergy, goverment officials and capitalists to recruit and fund these units, since the guerillas were ususaly communist partisans.
the bosnian muslim SS was however more based on muslims there wanting some autonomy (they were ruled by either serbs or croats) and protection from croat progoms (muh catholic clay) and the germans promised it to them.

as for redpilled people on jews i the region; everyone knew about them. and both the german puppet goverments aswell as partisans usually either killed, arrested or handed them over.
not in the balkan, where the rethoric was much different than in eastern europe.
concerning the various socialist and other red movements, jews were the capitalist elite, and also political enemies because they were close to the monarchies in the region.
and during the war (during which the reds here planned to execute their revolution) they dealt with most "class enemies", especially jews. they got good bargains for trading jews to the germans and by the end of the war, vast piles of confiscated jewish wealth and property was used to finance and serve the partisans,
not to mention that after the war any jew who tried to return and wanted his shekels back was BTFOd.

this is also the origin of the whole ordeal here where "right wing" parties (atleast in my country) oftenly accuse people of antisemitism and call for various good goy legislations and acts.

At the time arabs weren't invading and raping Europe so Hitler didn't hate them. If Hitler lived in today's time, he would hate the shit out of those shitskins.

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Yes, of course Hitler was a cuck. He allied with non-Whites against Whites, and advocated for the independence and freedom of shitskins. National Socialism itself is actually a cuck philosophy. It was too mild. The only thing the NSDAP did right was rejecting the Jewish banks. Almost every other claim about the the National Socialists is a Jewish lie, but if only it were all true. Tossing live shitskin babies into ovens is exactly what every true Aryan warrior should be doing to further the cause of the master race. Every shitskin born is a blow struck against us, perpetuating White genocide.