If we can all agree that orthodox Sunni Islam can be a religion of emancipation, can we say the same about Orthodox Judaism?
If we can all agree that orthodox Sunni Islam can be a religion of emancipation...
Charles Clark
Liam Martinez
lel
Gavin Cooper
Why does this question deserve a "lel?" We've discussed Liberation Theology and Liberation Islam, so why can't we apply Orthodox Jewish doctrine into something to advance socialism?
Landon Stewart
"Thank you God I was not born a woman"
Levi Hughes
You are kidding right?
No religion has emancipatory value, at all. This 'islam is progressive' pomo stupidity is nonesense, and Orthodox Judaism is as every religion taken to its most extreme points, absurd and laughable.
Camden Reed
Any religion can be emancipative of oppressive. The holy scriptures or whatever takes place can be interpreted and twisted in every possible way. A cult is nothing but what the believers are making with it.
Jose Phillips
Islam also prescribes metaphysics to gender. I don't see why Judaism's patriarchal aspects make it unable to hold any space for liberation whereas Islam's patriarchal aspects can be easily ignores and/or re-written.
Besides, I take it you don't know anything about how Judaism views gender, do you?
Nolan Green
What about Malcom X, Ali Shariati, certain factions during the Algerian anti-colonial struggle, PFLP, Gaddafi's Green Book, and so on?
Dylan Price
If you're ignoring or re-writing the patriarchal aspects than we aren't really talking about the "orthodox" Sunni Islam that the OP referred to. Pretty much any religion can be interpreted in ways that aren't fundamentalist or inherently right-wing, but in the case of Islam and Judaism these are not the traditional orthodox interpretations.
Connor Williams
So how do you suppose socialists win support among Muslims and Orthodox Jews? About a sixth of the world's population is Muslim, and Muslims today are far more religious than they were 50 years ago during their decolonization struggles.
Let's not forget either that the number of Orthodox Jews keeps increasing by a lot due to high birthrates and cases of formerly secular Jews making shuvah (literally "returning to the faith") whereas the number of secular Jews keeps declining. Are you suggesting all these people should be excluded from socialism?