What is the most Holla Forums related anime?

None.
All anime is bourgeois and alienating.
The time you waste watching these shit is time you could have expanded reading a good leftist book instead.

Maybe NHK.

spectacle btw

Dunno if Psycho-pass can be described as leftist, but I would certainly recomend it.

Specially season 1, season 2 a shit.

I think I got halfway through season 1 and it seemed to have a right wing bias. All of the anti-authoritarian characters seem to turn out evil. The main villain seems to be the most "left" character but is portrayed as a psychotic. Meanwhile the government agents are the "good guys" and it seems to push the idea that following the rules and conforming is the way to go.

Am I wrong?

Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic, it has a few moments- and the large empire is trying to dismantle other regions by forcing them to switch to a paper currency (this is a key plot point).

And occasionally they mention differing systems of government.

It's shallow but surprising, especially for something likely aimed at children.

The 2nd season I've yet to watch but it's particularly anti-Semitic.

100% THIS

This show is fantastic.

The most left leaning anime I've seen in recent years would be Zankyou no Terror.

Which is, best experienced blindly as any synopsis could reveal key plot points.

The bias seems to be a liberal one. The most anarchic of characters are painted as idealists as well as the most authoritarian. Season 1 seems the most "lefty" because the bad guy is actually chaotic neutral and based professor talks about anarchism. Season 2 basically confirms though that the message of the show was meant to be "u gotta change the system from within :DDDDDDDD"

Yeah, that sounds liberal as fuck. I also remember that the main characters used to be dirty, dirty criminals but turned good after they literally put collars on! Yay for big brother.

Elitist snob. Post above you disproves your argument, but you've never experienced it because you've written off an entire medium as irrelevant.

Most, if not all film & television is bourgeois and alienating.

But there are exceptions, these go ignored by snobs that would disregard anything with moving pictures in favour of a book.

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Concrete Revolutio is Leftist as fuck, takes a few episodes to build up though.

Lets of references to the Cold War, and has tons of homage to old anime.

Sort of. The main dog (can't remember his name) identifies with the antagonist's sentiments about anarchism and ends up departing from society at the end of Season 1. Hence the 'primitavist' aspect. The lesson turns into what I said in season 2 because even though he's left, things haven't changed and so it's up to MC to change things for great justice. I haven't watched the movie where dog man comes back with a rebel group, but it didn't get great ratings so I've had it sitting in my backlog. It's criticisms of anarchism and authority aren't terrible, it's more that the solution they provide is more idealist than either anarchism or authoritarianism. I did have a good laugh in season 2 though when it turned out the bourgi were making statues out of human corpses though.

I think Serial Experiments Lain is worth a mention. It's explicitly socialist or anything but it dabbles in leftist ideas.

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I meant to say NOT explicitly socialist. But it's still definitely worth a watch.

Not really, not after the big reveal at the end, plus when you consider those people who the system essentially turned into veggies. It's all a big leading-up-to something, you can't really have a definetive opinion until the final episode.

The main villain is actually an anarchist idealist. The series itself seems to be heavily anti-authoritarian in its theme, but not by simply preaching against authoritarianism but by letting its danger become evident.Shogo Makishima is portrayed in a terrible light due to the hero's moralist perspective, but eventually he's shown in a more sympathetic light after he exposes what he's doing.

At the end of the season this is completely adverted, they realize that they are merely upholding ideology.

what form of anarchism are the anarchy sisters ?

Nichijou for sure. It has a heavy push on class struggle and returning the means of production to the people. Especially Yuuko's quote from episode 7.

"The peoples revolution does not require significant justification because it justifies itself in the fight against the bourgeoisie. The uprising of the proletariat against the market forces of Capitalism and societal expectations of Liberalism is an act of compassion towards fellow man and for a calling for the collapse of the oppressive system and the state. The only way society and humanity can continute to better itself, improve our lives and evolve is through Socialism, Communism and revolution." - Yuuko Aioi, Nichijou

You and the other person are giving me conflicting descriptions.

Is one piece really that lolbert?

Yeah, his Opinion is shit, go see it for yourself.

You have to get a bit deep into the society in which it happens, Anakne Tsunemori is a perfect protagonist to that end as far as season 1 is concerned, because she's got an incredibly bland personality, she's moralistic yet deatached enough so that you can use her as conduit for truly understanding the world.

She becomes paradoxically more idealistic and cynical at the end of season one, which perfectly describes how one person rejects a value system only to adopt another one, effectively remaining axiomatically unchanged.

No, none of these shows have much of a political message. Chart is just for lulz.

Actually, you could probably find something about politics in Evangelion but that show is still mostly about Ano's depression. One Piece, on the other hand, is for 10-year-olds (not that it isn't entertaining if you like Shounen).

I think evangelion is more about neurosis.

They're not mutually exclusive. Ano has stated that he was having severe depression issues while writing it though.

I've seen half of it and the "we used to be criminals but after putting on these government collars we're good now" thing was extremely offputting coupled with the seemingly anti-anarchist message.

Explain your reasoning please.

Lain is ostensibly techno anarchism. Then it goes into the more fringe & conspiratorial philosophy.

It's a good history lesson, and a top tier cyberpunk series. Far Left as fuck.

OP said board related, so just far left, not explicitly socialist.

The indifference only a god could provide.

Technically anarchic-capitalist as they're only motivated by a monetary reward that will allow them to secure passage to their homeland, which carries a steep price.

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Ergo Proxy: Basically a Brave New World, domed cities, Orwellian, etc. Heavily influenced by Nietzsch. You tour the decaying society outside the dome.

Memories: A film compilation. The Gas and Cannon Fodder are particular examples of oppressive government.

Kino's Journey/Kino no Tabi: This is existentialism at its finest.

It follows a young girl on road trip across a strange land of independent City Statess, isolated from one another. Each represent some metaphor for society.

One even depicts a post-cashless society where the currency has become stress. People perform menial number crunching all day to acquire stress.

EVA is mostly just totalitarianism and Abrahamic myth obsession. Raxephon provides an odd contrast to it.

But that's not what it happens, I don't know why you percieved it that way. first of all they weren't criminals, they were potential criminals, so they were designated by the state to act as executioners with a leash, as the series progress we see them reflect on this issue, particularly in the relationship between Kogami and Akane as well as Inspector Ginoza and every other enforcer, specially with his dad.

If anything, I saw that the series edged a pro-anarchist message at the tip of everyone's tongues regardless of what it was they said about order and society.

Agreed on Lain and I will second the recommendation of Kino's Journey. Ergo Proxy I don't remember much of, but Nietzschean sounds about right. Might be worth a watch.

Disagree on Eva, It's mostly introspective psychoanalysis IMO. RahXephon I barely remember. I remember it borrowing heavily from Eva but never innovated much.

Explain please.

I mean I get that it "reflects" on things but it still ultimately sides with a liberal message over a revolutionary one right?

I mean, you could interpret it as having an unsaid anarchist message…but it might also be wishful thinking.

I don't disagree, I was referring to the government setup.

RahXephon is also forgettable. I just meant the contrast of the societal setting. In terms of characterization & overall story, it's shit.

Gendo, Seele, and the U.N. managing the entire surviving society.

Did you just call Eva shit?

Seems like they're refering to RahXephon which I can confirm is mediocre at best.

I'm unsure to say that it sides with either, its ultimately difficult for most modern works to be completely devoid of any liberal-humanist morals in their background.

What I get from psycho-pass is not so much a message, but a rather intersting set of social proposals, and a rather unique view of social contracts and consequentialism… it explores many things, many sides of very different political theories.

Like I said at first, I'm not sure psycho-pass is leftist or not, but it's certainly worth looking at, perhaps due to its ambiguity.

This.

RahXephon contrasts EVA with its society, but the characters & story of RahXephon are dull.

Did we watch the same Eva? For me the show was highly critical of Authoritarianism given that NERV and SEELE were both self-interested entities that gave zero fucks about the populous. This is exemplified in Misato's character as she struggles to justify her position of power to herself and others. Other characters such as Gendo struggle with this too. Gendo knows that what his plan is selfish, but he carries it out anyways against the wishes of SEELE so that he can reunite his family, even if it means ultimately being driven apart from them. Then there's the message against Globalism that Anno has talked about in interviews, with the world's governments giving large amounts of power to private military corps like NERV out of fear of the alien menace. Now, you could say I'm reading to far into this or whatever, but if the message you got from Eva is somehow incompatable with leftist thought then you may have missed something.

This is a pretty good summery of EVA.

I don't think anyone here suggested that.

I'll watch it again. I just feel like I've seen so many similar works.

This is liberal centrism IMO, counter-revolutionary. There is no need to compromise or find middle ground with authoritarian structures. LIberal reformism and appeals to middle ground are anathema to the left.

If Psycho-Pass breaks with this formula I'll be happily surprised though.

You're not exactly wrong, I just thought it was more humanistic than political.

Sorry, meant more that people were saying it wasn't political. Anno as far as I know is involved with Miyazaki and the others in the anime "leftist" circle. NGE wasn't really about capital, but one doesn't need to look far to see what it says about neoliberalism. Kind of ironic that the Rebuilds are the opposite. I wonder if Anno is making a meta commentary here while laughing his way to the bank.

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There are political elements to be sure but the primary focus is on Shinji's internal conflicts and character development imo. It's more or less a bildungsroman. If it was meant to be a political piece he could have put a lot more emphasis on the aspects you talked about.

As far as Rebuild goes - I don't think Anno was involve past the first one.

The one where everyone turns into trees at the end right? That was an interesting series. Definitely some material to mull over in that one. Would you say it's pro or anti collectivism?

Y'all should post on /leftyweebpol/.
>>>/leftyweebpol/

Eva is muh human instrumentality project that will make all humanity (without their consent) one, the evanjellyon.

Gurren lagann is fight da powah we all know this.

Nardo is muh honor and muh tradition honorabru ninjutsu

One piece is basically FREEDUM and MUH BIG BAD GOVURMENT

That's fair. Especially given that Anime sells itself on its characters, very rarely on plot/setting alone. The politics of the world play a lot into the characters' dilemmas though. Shinji is a great example, as like an agent in our irl capitalist system, he doesn't understand the world around him and it makes even less sense to him as he digs into it and realizes how contradictory its internal logic really is. This is why at the end, he decides to create a new world where only those with an actualized sense of self are able to exist.

I'll have to check, but I'd be happy to hear that his directing hasn't gotten as bad as the Rebuilds are. Still excited for part 4 though, its not really Eva anymore so much as a pretty ok Mech show.

well the rebuild is going for a happy ending. You just don't understand that rebuild is a "what if anno didn't have depression" kinda story.

That wasn't the original goal of SEELE or NERV, they wanted to be Gods. Shinji fucked that up by forcing everyone to have a one-on-one with Freud.

How are the rebuilds the opposite?

they are not. That guy is confused.

I just checked, the other poster is right, the rebuilds have a team of directors, rather than just Anno. I think its pretty obvious that the Rebuilds exist solely to fund Studio Khara's side projects. This makes sense if you consider that the Anime industry isn't in the best shape currently.

While the original included the elements we talked about above, the Rebuilds are literally just a vehicle for robot fights and waifuism.

I can't speak for the second season though, never finished it.

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Its politics were mostly the setting, we rarely ever have a pure focus on them beyond their self interest, and, on the effects they have on the people we see.

The U.N. in particular was dramatized as terrible and ineffectual against the EVA units, but this metaphor was an idealization, because in reality the U.N. provides of one of the most laughable armies we've seen.

The irony is Shinji is the "self insert/power fantasy." He's a reluctant participant because the audience uses him as its means to observe this world.

You see his narcissism, his anxiety, and how he is utilized as a tool while he passively allows this- but it's not because of choice, but because you as the active observer (an author's goal) have shaped his destiny. He's conflicted because he's made empty to house your perspective.

No. The world just stopped. The ending is a metaphor for forced conversion scenario to a new ideology. It's genocide. It's cultural immolation. Then they turn into trees, or some shit.

It's anti-anti, it supports individualism, but doesn't stress collectivist theory, more, it stresses how in a transition a world/dream ends and is gone forever, like when a language becomes endangered.

Send a slow board to a board with two pages? There's not really that much to go with. May as well just go to /a/ since most anime is crypto-fascist or bourgeoisie.

So. Basically. It's a list of SMT 3: Nocturne endings approximated with anime titles.

FLCL was made because Gainex was depressed by working with him, Anno voiced one of the cats- this involvement alone was begrudged by the team. No one was going to let him work alone, he probably got the Nipon Business "window seat" where one is more a passive observer to others with no real decision making.

Obligatory.

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Huh.

I thought the ending was that the mc was dissatisfied with staying within the system but couldn't see a way out. Then she dedicated herself to finding a way to destroy it rather than assimilate into it, the thought of which disgusted her.

I don't think it was an especially radical message, but I don't think it was centerism either. It was kind of like the state of the left nowadays. Full of anger and energy, but no set or obvious methodology that can't be countered. More of a statement on the political situation than an offered solution.

I'm going from memory though and my memory isn't perfect. Also, like some others here, never saw the second season, so can't judge from that.

all correct

Season One had stuff like pic related in it. Urobuchi knew what he was doing.

I haven't been watching the anime, but the manga is pretty leftist from what I've seen.
I'd also recommend Last Exile and Code Geass.

I think your very analysis here shows that the show is more political than you give it credit for. I'm not saying it's the main focus, but the critic is there.

Makes sense, though FLCL was not completely divorced from politics and psychoanalytic themes. Gainax must be going more in that direction now given that Anno & friends decided to leave. It does seem that the Rebuilds are meant to be divorced from the darker themes of the series, but I think the reason Anno is relinquishing some of his creative control is because he wants the Rebuilds to fund his other projects. If you take a look at Animator Expo (which is run by Anno), you can see he hasn't given up on his political criticisms. There's even a short that explicitely criticizes neoliberalism.

Now and Then, Here and There: It's like Little Nemo, but instead of a flying bed he joins Kony soldiers. Short summery for perfection and and a deep abyss that carves out a piece of most viewers if they had some remaining naivety.

Pumpkin Scissors: The Great War between two post-Industrial nations has ended, an army unit of an autocratic regime is assigned to war relief.

It's a mix of tanks, and beating up aristocrats, but the series feature is Noblesse oblige, as the protagonist is a woman trying to uphold the military and aristocratic tradition of her family, despite pressure from her older sisters to marry.

The series finale even has the soldiers working a soup kitchen. The overall plot is inconsequential and never resolved in the animation.

It's left leaning, but you'll notice in the end it blames the Jews. Literally. This is not a figure of speech.

I wasn't stressing that it isn't political, just that the governance in place is background. Its authority is absolute, but it's really a post-nation state.

It's a very political, especially in how it represents itself as a nation with nothing at its boarders, and held together by people the sheer will of a populace to survive.

It left a feeling like it's the last city on Earth being influenced by external forces now absent nations to lord over.

It's a coming of age story, that's why.

Dead Leaves was more political.

And it sunds like Anno will produce something nice soon.

Last Exile is beautiful and visionary.

Geass is a bit too campy and bourgeoisie, but it's on point.

Ok, I see what you're saying. I can agree with this analysis. It may even prove useful in analysing real world capitalism as it struggles to deal with its own existential threat (climate change).

Of course. In fact in many ways it's similar to EVA with its themes, albeit much more light-hearted.

What are you talking about? The shape of the anime industry is completely fine. Output is higher as high as it's ever been.

what's the deal with trigger ?

wasn't it a studio that was started by a bunch of underpaid artists and animators from gainax

Explain please.

Which one?

that would explain a lot.

That actually makes a lot of sense in the context, government during the real life naval era spawned a lot of piracy.

Animators are just getting by with wages and typically work long hours. There's tons of video games being produced right now too, doesn't necessarily mean the industry is in good shape.

Still around, had two projects last season.

I can't remember which one, I'll post it here if this thread is still up when I'm off work.

tbh Berserk is a pretty Leftist anime. It shows how fucked up the aristocracy can be and how much greed can corrupt people.

Tokyo Godfathers: A fairy tail story of modern homelessness.

Speed Grapher: Decadent wealthy elites that all frequent an underground club of sex, drugs, and depravity use the kiss of a goddess to grant them power over their own flesh, realizing their desire that their wealth couldn't fulfil.

A journalist rescues her and is now on the run.

Magical Shopping Arcade Abanobashi was fantastic. Not sure it counts.

Capitalism is a permanent residency of life, its evils more are human evils. And that the Abrahamic hierarchy of world politics isn't particularly fond of nature.

jcpa.org/article/neo-paganism-in-the-public-square-and-its-relevance-to-judaism/

Have you noticed in indoctrination educational origins stress early European settlers to be phobic of nature?

In truth there were many staunch Christians that feared it, but there was also a "going native" wanderlust for nature that became celebrated in other latter day propaganda & portrayals.

The worst struggle of climate change is the unwillingness to take appropriate actions. It's an inevitability, rushed or otherwise.

(I am strictly focusing on global change, not the localized rapacious mining to South America by Canadians & Chinese, or variations of this, as the spice must flow, and copper is copper).

And the topic of trees is another more complicated issue.

But, what is fucking us is liberals just sap money and industry to fuel their own agendas. Every so often one stands out and has their mind set to sustainability, but the bulwark of it focuses on regressive policies rather than coping with change.

The Christian agenda on the other hand sees nature as static, immune, and immaterial. So their politicians will use any lie against alternative energy, wind farming, solar, or electricity if it means conservation of established production companies like gas & coal.

Anticipate starvation riots. The political offices have bunkers that can withstand years of turmoil.

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Climate won't change capitalism- it will just change agriculture and population densities.

Pretty much. It's weathered external foreign threats, but it still faces internal threats for government. But restriction seems to offten motivate Japanese creativity.

The idea of a place for strictly leftist-discussion-of -anime instead of here or just /a/ seems pointless, and yes, elaboration-

For bourgeoisie-

Lupin III: Master thief, earned as well as inherited the ability & title of his grandfather. A family legacy, in a series that features only the finest things in life. Fast cars, fine wines, fast women. World travel, etc. Accompanied by a former bodyguard to the wealthy, and a samurai ronin also from a dynasty of thieves.

Really, anything: Most anime has a focus on materiel goods, and creature comforts, and cozy environments. Not often it stresses just how brutal the constant testing is until you get to the absurd work hours.

Umaru: Japanese Garfield.

Crypto-fascist-

A lot: So many series feature a great life granted by joining the military (space opera uses this), or adventure and growth after accidentally joining the military (mecha uses this).

The Irresponsible Captain Tylorr: A parody that exemplifies all these traits so eloquently as it pans the ideas behind them, but it still tells the same story.

A shiftless man with no past joins the space navy and bumbles his way to absolute success by sheer happenstance. Really, I can't recommend this more for its left leaning politics and comedy gold.

Yakiatte Japan: Not related to any category, tells the story of making the world's finest bread. I'm mentioning it because it successfully eclipses all elements of Japanese story telling, but is a-political and focused solely on bread.

It's about a young man that wants to make Japan love bread, and show the world the best Bread is his "Japan" series of breads which he numbers.

Each episode is a bread baking contest.

Macross: Far left leaning, but it's still about fighter pilots defending their home from aliens. In a world where pop music seduces the enemy and leads to world peace.

Seconded.

Nice analysis. I still need to get around to watching Tokyo Godfathers. I was also considering Macross, glad to see it's quite Leftist.

Also you have good taste in anime for watching Berserk famrade.

The OVA Macross Zero is great, offers up a story prequel. It can be watched at any point.

Also Robatech in the U.S. had a few episodes censored/unaired in the Deep South & Bible Belt because of an interracial relationship between a blonde pilot and a black woman.

Incidentally the captain is Italian, but the Robatech dub made him Russian.

But that's the way it's always been. Animation has always been badly paid in Japan. If the state of the industry is bad now it's always been bad.

Oh, I couldn't possibly watch that. Interracial relationships are you insane?

On a serious note though, that dub shit is pretty funny. I'll probably watch the OVA first becuase I always forget to watch them after I finish a series, thanks for the info user.

Ok I gotta interject here. Most mecha is crypto-fascist according to you because it depicts people joining the military and having their lives improved. But then you claim that Berserk is leftist? Berserk does the exact same thing…Guts is a literal mercenary. His life improves immensely when he joins Griffith's band who are directly contract their violence to the aristocracy and they only ultimately fall because Griffith tries to rise above his station. The rest of the series is about Guts fighting demons and other metaphysical baddies in Guts' nihilistic revenge mission.

By comparison the typical mecha series you seem to be alluding to are more leftist IMO. Let's take a typical example - Gundam 0079. Although Amuro is forced to associate with the military he himself is a civilian and regularly butts heads with the officers. He doesn't take shit from them and refuses to bend to authoritarian or ideological pressure when it conflicts with his personal moral sense.

Neither of the two major military powers are portrayed positively. The Zeon are an allegory for the Fascist powers of WW2 and are shown to be genocidal maniacs. It's anti-fascist. The Earth Federation has no moral authority either as they commit heinous war crimes like using nerve gas on civilian settlements. Their only "good" by comparison because Zeon is worse. The war is driven primarily by elite interests and ultimately shown to be completely pointless and horrific. How is this fascist while Berserk isn't?

I mean, that's a totally fair assessment. Capitalism isn't exactly ideal for artistic expression. People pour their blood, sweat, and tears into truley great works and generally poorly compensated. That goes for any art.

I'd say Berserk is pretty leftist by that analysis though no? If you suck the Bougi's cock your life mught be temporarily better, but in the end Guts still gets betrayed.

By the way, I love Berserk don't get me wrong. It's just mind-boggling to say most mecha are fascist but Berserk is somehow leftist (it's largely nonpolitical imo).

I'd argue that it is pretty Leftist. I mean, plenty of things portray a certian ideology without the purpose of doing so but I think the Berserk series shows a brutal outlook on what it's like to be a prole while the aristocrats live in luxury and only by kissing their feet and doing exactly as they say, you MIGHT get the chance to be one of them but even then they are always out to betray you and take your wealth/status.

Also, the way Griffith in the end finally betrays all his best friends, practically his family shows how greed and the system can corrupt people into just playing the game along with everyone else, even at the expense of those that love them.

Berserk is amazing but the whole conflict with the royal family is a very short portion of the story. You could interpret it as leftist or you could interpret it as reinforcing caste system:

That's not necessarily leftist. And the militaristic aspects kind of push it towards the right wing. Although overall, I don't think Berserk is right wing it's neither left nor right IMO.

Though I think the reason we identify with Guts as a character is because he continues to fight the system despite people around him telling him its hopeless. In fact, the situation is even more interesting now in the manga, since after betraying Guts, Griffith is reborn and creates a united kingdom called Falconia. In this situation, Guts will continue to fight Griffith and the populous will probably hate Guts because their lives are now relatively better under Falconia. We know that Griffith is evil, but the masses are ignorant of what's actually occuring. It's similar to how liberals will say that socialism is a bad idea because capitalism has improved our lives so much.

That's not necessarily leftist.

The Griffith betrayal thing wasn't about greed IMO. It's more about Griffith lack of ability to connect with others. The turning point for him is when Guts beats him in the duel. Griffith feels completely alone afterwards, feeling that Guts has abandoned him and seeks comfort in the princess. It wasn't really because he wanted more wealth or anything. he was just desperate for human affection.

By the time he ultimately betrays the Band of the Hawk via contract with the Godhand he's already gone insane and is not realy motivated by anything but a basic human instinct of ego (not quite the same thing as greed).

He isn't really fighting "the system" though. He is just trying to get revenge. Guts doesn't give a shit about politics, socio-economics or the plight of the people (that's his charm). If anything Griffiths' Falconia is a better example of socialism since he wants to overthrow the monarchy and create an egalitarian society. I'm also not sure this version of Griffith is really evil or if we're just meant to think that. Femto is obviously evil, but Femto and the reborn Griffith are different characters.

Blue Gender: Like Starship Troopers, but better. No camp, no irony, not even hints of fascism. Just uncompromising survival.

Kikaider: A machine struggles to decide if he is a man or a tool.

Samurai 7: Retelling of the old film, once again, a band of 7 protect unarmed rice farmers from banditry and corrupt lords.

Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit: An allegory to how the Yamoto came to subvert and eradicate Ainu culture.

Metropolis: Fritz Lang's short film animated.

Oh, the interracial gets even better when a micronian/human marries a Zentradi. Their courtship ritual was a sick ass knife fight.

youtube.com/watch?v=Km45Nus0GJE

I second Berserk because it's good, didn't say it was strictly leftist, even though that may well be implied.

It is however relevant as it offers up scenes of decadent aristocrats ravaging the lives of people, and a poor group trying to carve out titles for themselves, essentially rising up from nothing to achieve status, which was a common theme of the medieval era. Instead of the state just handing it to them.

And in Berserk we see how quickly taken away those favours are just as soon as they are extended.

Gundam on the other hand always sits in the middle-ground while leaning left, as it's always about peace and the injustice of war, but still they fight.

Also the Zeon are an allegory to the Central Powers of WW1, as they represent literal satellite nations breaking away from the Earth.

Though, yes. Still maniacs, still willing to commit genocide.

It really does however set the stage for most other mecha series to say war is bad, now keep fighting in your unstoppable machine.

So, yeah, I'm not exactly disagreeing as Gundam is a good example of both anti-war and fascism. And unlike other mecha you rarely see the Gundam pilots granted anything for their effort, more so they do it to achieve peace and protect what they love.

Gundam Wing reverses the roles with the space colonies once again using saboteurs against the Terrines.

I agree that Guts himself is a nihlist, but nihlism is the perfect breeding ground for a new ideal. In the current arc Guts is starting to find that he does actually care about some people and that there are things worth fighting for. The manga is sort of at a turning point right now where it go the "Griffith ebin meme nuthin" route, but I think that route is unlikely.

Nobody mentioned Manabi Straight yet?

It's a comedy about students of the Seioh Academy reviving the student council and starting a student movement to stop the cancellation of the school fair.
It's a light-hearted and playful homage to the leftist student movements of Japan from the 70s, pretty cute. It deals with how to convince people who don't want to listen (disappointed students in this case, as the academy was in decay).

youtube.com/watch?v=eJNpehjyahw

I swear to god if you say it's light-hear-

Goddamn it.

Talking about blaming the jews, lol angel cop
youtube.com/watch?v=oDdr-1iOqag

You can't really go full-throttle with these topics in the anime industry. Miyazaki said that both the public and private sector frowned on them whenever they tried to.

Since nobody's mentioned it yet: Akira is arguably the definitive leftist's anime.

I'm not so sure, besides the agitators being seemingly anarchists, what's so leftist about it?

Maybe it's me that I don't remember much about it, it's been many years since I last saw it.

Source?

HotD is about Ideology.

hotd is literally fascist

I D E O L O G Y

See the Ideology
Critic the Ideology

It takes place in the aftermath of WW3 where neo-Tokyo, rebuilt after being destroyed by nuclear weapons, is being ruled by an oppressive authoritarian regime. The heroes are delinquent anarchist-types from the shittiest gutters of an already shitty place. The primary anatgonist is the Japanese government, which is conducting experiments on poor people; and the military, who are portrayed as simple brutes. The main character joins a revolutionary militia (who are of course labeled terrorists) etc.

The ultimate message is about individual empowerment with latent psychic abilities serving as allegory for human potential. It's revealed that there was a big cover-up (censorship) to keep people from knowing about these powers and that they're suppressing the main characters powers with drugs (perhaps an allegory for propaganda). By the end of the film, they awaken to their full potential and break free of system.

Since school has been brought up I'll mention Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei.

Which isn't really left or right, it's just mostly about politics and complaining.

If you're asking about the Animator Expo short, I'll be off work soon.

If you're asking about animators being underpaid, it's not exactly a secret. You can find a variety of sources talking about the shit pay and crappy hours such as: cartoonbrew.com/artist-rights/japans-animation-industry-isnt-just-tough-its-illegally-harsh-110074.html

Sorry it took me so long guys, here it is:
youtube.com/watch?v=0oDbdFIsN7M

The piece isn't only about neoliberalism, but the nationalist movement that follows. It also seems to have a very 'anarchist' take on corruption and power.

That was a bit confusing.

Feels more like a critique of neoliberalism from a far-right perspective. It all starts with China destroying Japanese culture, a common right-wing fear, and discourse seems to be centered in Japan as a nation.

Agreed, there's a lot of Pulp Fiction-esque time leaps going on. But the basic timeline is that Japan gets sold to China under some EU-style policy but worse. Japanese citizenery is understandably pissed off and unites under a nationalist movement run by a man named GK. The MC takes part in this movement thinking that Japan regaining its sovereignty will lead the prosperity. He gets captured and steralized by the government. Eventually GK wins though and promises to Make Japan Great Again. This doesn't happen and GK betrays the revolution creating a free trade agreement with the US and privatizing previously public services under the guis of 'self-responsibility'. This results in shit like firefighters letting poor areas burn to the ground because the poor can't pay the firefighters.

Except the nationalist movement to regain Japan's independence is betrayed by the demegogue leading it. If anything it's a criticism of those in Japan currently who want to restore the Japanese Empire. The Chinese takeover merely sets the stage for a nationalist uprising.

After watching it again I think what they tried to do here is to show how neoliberalism and fascism are one in the same. Both movements end up selling off parts of Japan while deregulating the market and slashing public services while the citizenry suffers. This is contrasted with stuff like the question on the window "where can tru happiness be found?" and dialogue from GK "there are no true messiahs or true dictators. The masses oppress themselves."

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Anime is capitalistic as fuck. Just watch old Soviet cartoons. For starters: Old lady's dog

Japan is continuing in a far-right market direction, as they are not fond of immigration to the point Colon Powell supposedly went there to insult them.

Fuck that, I'm gonna watch Valuable Kopeck instead.

youtube.com/watch?v=bsf3CeBE0rc

Every entertainment industry is capitalistic as fuck. The thing is that the artists/writers behind them not always are, and they insert some of their philosophy in their works. Capitalists in charge of the industry don't care what the work is about or what message they have as long as it sells.

While that may be true, that cartoon had nothing to do with immigration.

Dragon ball is the most leftist anime there is.

There is this spoiled ass capitalist bitch with her technology and shit. She is bulma the main villain of the series who wishes to oppress the blue collar worker goku.

No joke

In DBZ, Frieza owns a trade monopoly that controls hundreds of planets and enslaves millions.

Goku leads a glorious revolution for the common people and overthrows him, finally putting an end to Frieza's tyrannical reign.

Even if you ignore the films and the recent content, that never happens. Goku kills Frieza and King Cold dies to trunks, the vast majority of the organization is untouched.

I think your reading of Berserk is pretty off-point, Gut's life improves yes but because of his and Griffith's inability to define themselves on anything but militaristic terms, they go headfirst into the eclipse. It's implied that what Guts and Griffith both really wanted was to stay with eachother as friends and comrades with the rest of the Hawks, but because of their ambition or at least by the idea of themselves as people who needed to follow their ambition, they both ended abandoning the other at one point in time,

I suppose that you could say cowboyo beepboop and outlaw star are kinda lefty in that they are about (arguably lumpen)proles trying to survive in a dying capitalist society.

Also spacewesternoperas are fun af tbqh famalams.

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I think you're misunderstanding my point a bit. It's true that Guts and Griffith's conflict originated from Griffith's ambition, but it isn't necessarily the reason that the Eclipse happened.

Griffith knew that fucking the princess was a stupid idea. Had he kept it in his pants, the Eclipse wouldn't have happened. His decision there was purely the product of emotional distress, not ambition.

that's exactly what add's to my point. He needed someone to console him after he felt that his friend abandoned him. It wasn't his kingdom that he cared about more than anything, it was Guts.

The creators were led by Kunihiko Ikuhara, a more leftist friend of Anno's. The main character Utena fights a series of ritualized duels with ultra-bourgie students at an elite private school. The entire series is about class struggle (the dueling game) and waging a revolution to free the proletariat (represented by the character Anthy). It's trippy as fuck, but all the surrealism serves the theme of breaking free from the maze of idealism that the capitalist system creates to see the world in materialist terms.

The creators were led by Kunihiko Ikuhara, a more leftist friend of Anno's. The main character Utena fights a series of ritualized duels with ultra-bourgie students at an elite private school.

The entire series is about class struggle (the dueling game) and waging a revolution to free the proletariat (represented by the character Anthy). It's trippy as fuck, but all the surrealism serves the theme of breaking free from the maze of idealism that the capitalist system creates to see the world in materialist terms.

Never thought of the show that way before. I thought it was about domestic abuse victims learning to find self worth and leave their abusers, among other things. Though I can see Anthy leaving at the end to be the proletariat's general strike, if you look at it as a metaphor for class struggle.

Hey, I mentioned it in the last topic

I'm assuming the manga is a lot more indepth about it, but even the movie is a great illustration of the degradation of late capitalism.

One episode in and Arslan Senki is perfect.

www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=766875

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Tengen
Toppa
Gurren
Lagann
probably the most leftist anime ever tbh and i don't care how many times i have to say it.

anime is the opium of the people

Gasaraki had a pretty interesting portrayal of and global "peacekeeping" hegemony and the rise of fascism. Don't think it quite went far enough though.

Emilia represents NationaI Socialism.

Felt represents Holla Forums, the perfect anarchist.

How in the fuck did you get that out of that show?

Most of Oshii's work is pretty lefty in general.

Imagine actually thinking anime and permanent adolescence are good things with revolutionary potential.

How ideological of you.

Anime is not entertaining. It's also extremely aesthetically displeasing.

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Because it's all set in fantasy pre-Samurai NOT-Japan.

In an era where the emperor has some power and is less ceremonial.

It talks about how a foreign Yogoan emperor took over, and how his descendents still rule.

It talks about how local animist rituals and customs remain, but only in part, as despite their small size compared to the native population the Yogoans wielded considerable influence over the people.

This includes eradicating certain animal species.

The whole message was basically "progress" at the cost of the "Old Ways."