Market Socialism is the only alternative.
Prove me wrong. Pro tip You can't
Marx is the cancer of leftism
Please point to any part of Marx's writings that prescribe whatever it is you're crying about.
Please point to the place in Rothbard's writings where he says it's about implenting petty-feudalism :^)
Did you even read my post m80?
I'm serious. I'm not asking for a part where Marx says "famines are kewl lol xD". I'm asking you to point to where he says that a socialist economy needs to be run in such and such way, where "such and such" is what you think leads to the problems of shortages.
Gifting economy has already existed successfully in various cultures.
Communism is literally a resource based economy that supposedly occurs after world revolution after the state has been abolished.
Not to mention, Marx was opposed to markets and in favor of central planning. Every leftist worth his salt knows this.
Name some.
He believed in keeping a state which in each and every case led to totalitarianist nightmares and thus super-exploitation and then famines.
Easy.
Yes, yes, the communist ideal was a stateless, moneyless association of free producers. I'm not disputing that. I'm asking for one of you, or anyone really, to direct me to some part of his writings where I can see his recommendations on how to run a socialist society. Some of his books are pretty big, so it'd be really helpful if you could specify which of his recommendations led to chronic shortages, famine, etc.
Tito was a marxist
He didn't actually implement anything even remotely close to Marxism though. If anything his society was closer to something envisioned by Proudhon minus the anarchism. He was essentially a Marxist in name only.
How's that IMF dick tasting?
Uh no.
Please actually read Marx, thanks.
The first thing you'll notice is that Marx rarely if ever talks about socialism, most of his work is on materialist philosophy and critique of capitalist political economy.
Heiltsuk, Haida, Nuxalk, Tlingit, Makah, Tsimshian,Nuu-chah-nulth, Kwakwaka'wakw, Coast Salish all do something called potlatch.. The kula exchange in the Milne Bay Province of Papua New Guinea, Moka exchange in Papua New Guinea, Dama in Mali, the Telethrion Project in Greece, Burning Man in the Nevada desert. Give-away shop too.
None of those were the central part of their economies though.
I suggest we just ignore this Titoist liberal's threads from now on. Anyone capable of saying shit like this.
Is impossible to take seriously.
Not him, but I wrote a fuckhueg paper on the Maori in my senior year Econ class for my commie teacher, and the Maori economy was literally entirely based around gifting.
Indeed. The same is true of every other complex hunter/gatherer society like the Iroquois and the Duwamish. You see similar systems in horticultural and pastoral societies as well.
Top quality thread, drugaru moj.
Didn't this exact thread pop up before lmao
Also slavery and conquest….
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Totalitarianism is a liberal construct and liberal analyses of Socialism will always be negative.
Daily reminder that market """"""""""""socialists"""""""""""" are just neoliberals and should be rightfully gulag'd
Good thing I won't have to worry about a police state spying on me and everyone else, always watching what I do, oh wait.