Cycles of History

When people quote "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it", what do they mean?

This video uses Chinese dynasties to show how the theory of historical cycles work and how to apply them to our current situation. The video asks the question "Are we headed towards an age of chaos?" but anons on here would quickly answer, we've already entered.

Anyway, it's a very interesting video and I am wondering if Holla Forumsacks have any more information on historical cycles I would like to learn. Also lets discuss this video.

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If you don't understand the past and learn from it, you are doomed to make the same mistakes as those in the past did.

A good example would be Rome.

Bronze Age Collapse
One solar flair, one large volcano, one more world war, one bad plague, just one systemic disaster and globalism is gone.
Globalism that sapped most nations' self sufficiency. When the oil market falls out, when the oil supplying states fall into succession wars, when China closes up and stops sending shit to the west, the world will buckle at the knees.

Addendum. If this video was interesting, the author of the video had a great discussion in a radio show here. Basically, he talks about (((psychopaths))) and their relationship in society. The summary is as follows:

1. During Age of Warriors, (((psychopaths}}} cannot dominate because the warrior rulers get repulsed by lack of morals and ideals from them and thus work to exclude them from power.

2. During Age of Intellect, the intellectual class dominating at the time can detect dishonesty and corruptibility of the (((psychopaths))) and thus work to exclude them from power.

3. During Age of Merchant, society values money and bureaucrats try to gorge themselves with money as much as possible. As a result, the (((psychopaths))) have access to an attack vector and begin their ascent of power.

4. During Age of Chaos, the (((psychopaths))) have taken total control of society and society collapses. Order is lost, knowledge is lost and society is destroyed.

While only one of the many reasons Rome fell, the influx of foreign "barbarians" was often at Roman invitation since according to policy makers of the time they needed them for economic and military purposes
ring a bell?

Here's all the info I have on this topics

Some think empires go in this cycle.

1. The age of outburst (or pioneers).
2. The age of conquests.
3. The age of commerce.
4. The age of affluence.
5. The age of intellect.
6. The age of decadence.
7. The age of decline and collapse.

I think it's a solid template but rarely are things so simple and clean.

There are many things that we can learn from history. Technology changes, but as humans we are pretty much the same as our ancestors 10,000 years ago. Recorded history doesn't even go back that far, not reliably. So basically any historical context you may look at, they were the same sort of people as us, just in different circumstances. For that reason, we can look at how people responded to various things and learn from their mistakes or try to imitate their successes.


Like this user implied, there's a lot we can learn from the collapse of Rome. There are many similarities between Rome then and the US now, and for the West in general. Massive influxes of foreigners for one, historically this has always been an indicator of decline.

Another perspective to history is a socio-biological one. This video does a phenomenal job using organisms as an analogy.

1. Birth of an organism
2. Growth of an organism
3. Reproduction of an organism
4. Decline of an organism
5. Death of an organism.

It's essentially a phrase that's misused more often than not to promote cuck agendas. "If you don't let in every Ahmed and Abdul, and their broods, you'll be just like those Nazis who murdered ten billion Jews!" Meanwhile if you want to say, restrict immigration since it's clearly helping to replace your people and civilizations (see: plenty of empires in the past - most notably would probably be Rome), you'll be told that you're "ignorant". And there's another word that is misused as often as the word "Literally". Ignorance now essentially just means: "Anything that disagrees with 'liberal' ideology". Saying that we're all the same race is seen as intelligent and progressive, while pointing out issues like IQ differences, higher rates of disease/mental issues with certain races, blatant physical differences, etc. is seen as ignorant. Speech is incredibly important, and when you bastardize it you affect people more than you know. An easily observable example is how SJWs have pissed off so many people by calling everything under the sun "Racist/sexist/homophobic".

Totally agree! I was about to write in OP that it's not just a phrase that snarky libtards use to sound intellectually superior to you (even though they don't know what it means).

Also dropping these red-pills which where originally posted by anonymous conservative but where popularized by Stefan

The Truth About Gene Wars: r/K Selection Theory [P1]

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The Genetics of Politics | Liberals vs. Conservatives | Gene Wars [P2]

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Gene Wars: r/K Selection Theory | CLASSIFIED MATERIAL [P3]

The whole r/K selection theory is really interesting, especially how apparent it is for different races of humans, but also for people of different cultures.

For anons who don't know, r/K selection refers to two different reproduction strategies. r selection refers to animals like rabbits, who have as many babies as possible but invest little to nothing in any of their offspring, knowing that most of them will probably die soon anyway. While K selection refers to animals like wolves, who don't have many offspring but take a lot of time to raise them and teach them. Generally r selection is for prey and K is for predators, essentially quantity vs quality.

So USA would be somewhere between age of (((merchants))) and age of chaos?

Thats just godwins law in disguise.
When someone uses that quote, its almost certain theyre a leftists using it in place of >OMG youre literally hitler :(

The thing is that modern technology in my opinion is going to change the cycle completely. Just imagine if anons took over society and turned the entire internet into anonymous imageboards? Cultural rot and corruption would pretty much be entirely fixed for the most part.

Technology changes the whole fucking game this cycle.

Embeded and youtube.com/watch?v=wuac_QMd6Q4 might be of interest user.

rexresearch.com/glubb/glubb-empire.pdf
Here is a pdf of Glubb's fate of empires which is a really good read. I remember it had a part where ottaman empire parallels america in alot of ways.

We're already at the age of chaos.

The (((psychopaths))) have thoroughly infiltrated every facet of organized power.

There is one institution which resits this cycle to a varying degree, and that is religion. What example do I have to use? The vatican - which is from the last remnants of the Roman empire. This is also why Frank Herbert used religion in later books as a total-control mechanism in cyclical history. In Foundation series by ((( Issac Asimov ))) the force of religion was sort of not really talked about in a cyclical history.

Kakism religion to troll the CLTR left + anonymous culture where facts always outlay fee-feels = eternal golden age of humanity

Thank you user! I am watching as we speak. I will watch both.

Is it me or does his voice remind me of the University leader from Alpha Centauri?

I'm starting to think all these "cycles of destruction" are just people subconsciously knowing the inevitable end of state power. You can shake your fist at the gov't and tell it to shape up all you want but It's like some girl who gets into abusive relationship after abusive relationship and has a feeling that "this isn't gonna work out either :'''( "

THANK YOU VERY MUCH user

is biohistory ded

Ejaculation is the process of forcing your energy and information outside of your body. Sometimes for the sake of procreating but today it usually stands for momentary pleasure.

The age of decadence is just that on larger scale.

In every Age, in every Place. The Deeds of Men remain the Same

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He literally got it backwards. Women and men forgetting their places is a symptom of collapse. Chaos returns the natural order with each sex having its own, different role.

Bumping for late night crowd.

It's The Fourth Turning. Or some call it the War Cycle.

And thats all she wrote.

This is why (((they))) gutted space funding, it would brake the chain if whites were able to colonize a planet.

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Hey OP, this guy is your quintessential author on cycles of history.

Watch the video, the full video.

succession wars in petro-states, you say?

They say it to sound like a smart fuck.

Also from Alexander F. Tytler;
The average age of the world's greatest civilisations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to selfishness;
From selfishness to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.

similar to this, pic related.

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You see this?

We know chaos is a constant and that all you can do is nurture it.
But people seem to think it doesn't exist and that it's all controlled.

This is the "puppy-dog" mentality.

This reminds me of a book idea I must get around to attempting at some point in my life. A story set within the next two hundred years where a religious cult surrounding Adolf Hitler rises to relevancy. Drawing parallels between Jesus being crucified by the Romans under Jewish demand ultimately leads to Hitler becoming a messiah figure and ascends to godhood. The Jewish NWO presiding over a fully globalized multicultural globe free of hate kvetch, but cannot (in spite of trying) to quell it. Much like the Christians fed to the lions did not stop them at all. It's told through the eyes of a kike journalist who does investigative work on the growing cult and is mortified by everything he has to document. Then it ends with a powerful politician converting to Hitlerism and alludes to white people across the world (swamped with shitskins they have to work in order to pay welfare to) reawaken to a new identity and the current world will be wiped away (like the decadent and corrupt Roman Empire was).

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Some sort of test for psychopath and sociopath types, especially for those in positions of power, needs to be instituted. It will never happen because the people in those positions of power are already psychopaths who scout out more undesirables (easier to blackmail and control) for similar positions. Oddly enough, psychopaths have an almost innate ability to recognize other psycho/sociopaths and band together quickly, I guess it's easier to spot the mask of humanity when you're used to wearing one all the time.

Another interesting aspect is that after running MRI's on psychopaths using various different stimulus they were able to find that the areas of the brain a normal person would use for mathematical reasoning were actually the areas that would show the most activity when dealing with language-based stimulus. The psychopath uses language the same way you or I use mathematical equations. Whatever combination of words gets the desired result are the ones inserted by the psychopath. You can call that just plain "lying", but I think things go a lot deeper than that.

A fun book on the topic is "Political Ponerlogy" by Andrzej Łobaczewski

People have been fundamentally the same since far before the dawn of civilization. People today are, on average, no smarter, nor dumber, no more or less compassionate, nor any more or less greedy, petty, etc. than people in the time of the Roman Empire, or the dawn of the ancient Egyptian kingdoms.

Naturally, similar sorts of people rise to power, and make similar choices in similar situations, for reasons that must seem perfectly reasonable at the time. And in doing so, they may make the same mistakes.

But what they don't tell you is that people who do learn from history are not much better off with regards to making the same mistakes. People go into learning history with their own baggage, and when they learn the mistakes of the past, they do so from the perspective of someone trying to make workable those same ideas that led to those mistakes.

Hence the 21st century communist pushing his particular specific never-before-tried (tm) infallible brand of socialism as if his few minor tweaks will mean it won't go the same as always.

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Accurate

This video is very relevant.

Thank you anons! Here's a quote I submit to you:

Hard times make strong people
Strong people make good times
Good times make weak people
Weak people make hard times

(Hitlers Trips of Truth)

Approved.

Something I'd like to know, is: Are these cycles natural and predisposed to happen in any civilization? OR. Is it due to the actions of the people in charge i.e. policy influencing a decline?

Most notable example of people still alive: The nigger uprising in the 1960s wasn't squashed forever, now go look at Charlotte, NC.

To answer your question, what example do we have in history if there being a case of constants?

Honesty question as I don't know

The only case I can even remotely think up is Switzerland who pretty much stayed successful for a long period of time. And of course most of Africa remained same up until today.

user, I am almost in tears. I haven't had this kind of feels in a long time. I hate living in the winter period of our civilization.

Many thanks for the post.

There have been quite a few nations that have lasted almost all of civilization or a long time. Ethiopia (ironically), Byzantium, Morocco, Han china, San Marino, Austria, Hungary, France - you get the picture. Or at least some form of government has lasted that is true to the native peoples. The average person, culture and what not have all change dramatically once you stretch beyond that sweet 200-250 empire mark.

That is one of the reasons why I do believe it could be the people running it causing the decline. Because people who have been in charge of these nations that last a long, long time, would seem to do what is necessary.

I came to post this. We are well into the age of decadence. Those of us on Holla Forums are likely the next pioneers or the future fathers/teachers of the pioneers.

With his ten generation cycle glubb was talking about empires, not individual nations. America as a nation may continue a lot longer but her greatness is waning.

Of course. That's what I was saying when I meant that these nations that have lasted dramatically change beyond the empires cycle.

I completely I agree. The reason why though is as follows: We are like a monastic order.

- We make an effort to archive and store valuable knowledge (red-pills) to share with others
- We encourage independence and getting away from the jews money, the telmund-vision and other ((( contraptions ))).
- We encourage entrepreneurship to make our own money, using our own skills
- We store seeds, food, ammo, guns and various tools for rebuilding civilization
- Normies wakes up, goes to work, and goes to sleep without a single thought that the next morning would be different then today - Holla Forumsacks are aware of potential collapse of society and prepare
- We have high in-group preference which are essential traits for a stable society (that is typically found in pioneering societies)
- We stress hard work and not sewing around as middleman.

And if there's one thing universal to all the cycles of history, it's that monastic orders will bring about the flowering of the next civilization cycle.

I've attached a red-pill on this.

A more simple axiom would be you either expand or you contract. Only a truly advanced culture could maintain something approaching homeostasis. Humans do not have this ability yet. Our only option is to spread out amongst the stars and hope that someday one of these groups survives long enough to understand.

See psychopathy is possible to search for (brain scans), sociopathy is not.

Also: most of us are either autistic or sociopathic.

I was about to post this exact video.

The Decline of the West should be in the Feb2016 collection at this link (Holla Forums books): mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg

I'd like to add that (((they))), in the efforts to mongrelize and globalize nations, are also producing (and accelerating) unintended and opposite effects over those they seek to control. It's a mix of situational irony and a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Claiming, "Never again," or "Not this time!" while operating under the same strategies and of the past is calling for failure. They're literally asking for anuddah shoah. There won't be another one after though :^)

Bumping for friday crowd

Might be somewhat blackpill, but there is a second part to that quote you are forgetting.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, those who DO learn from history are doomed to watch others repeat it

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Notice how I didn't mention sociopaths in my paragraph on MRI scans?

There's other ways to check for sociopaths and it's to everyone's advantage not having those types of people in power.