Positive Christianity

So maybe some of you know about the Positive Christianity movement during the 3rd reich.

I'm a bit confused on some parts of it.

It was a German Protestant sect that wanted to reinvent the Bible to be more aligned with the views of the 3rd reich. The group Deutsch Christen advocated for these principles of modernizing the Bible to relate to the principles of the NSDAP by trying to revise christian history in order to rid parts of the Bible of Semetic influence, which kind of seems impossible in my own opinion. But they made arguments such as:

- Jesus was actually a Syrian descended Aryan who was Blonde and blue eyed. And that the population of Galilee was racially distinct from that of Judea.

- Rejected the deity described in the Hebrew Scriptures and in distinction affirmed the Father of Christ as the true God (Jews worship Satan and Christians worship true god)

- They would remove books from the bible that talked about the Jews being the everlasting chosen people.

- Jesus was redefined as an Aryan hero who struggled against Jews and Judaism.

My question is; Why did they view the Christianity as not inherintly positive a sought to cherry pick and revise history in order to make it fit within the narrative of NSDAP culture and politics?

I understand many of the reasons why but I dont fully understand it. I get they didnt want to have people worship a Jew as their Lord and savior, but it comes across as kind of weird to try and make the bible about a Semite-Aryan race war and not about 'eternal salvation'.

Please give me some explanations. Also, do any modern incarnations of this church exist in countrys with free speech? (and none that have anything to do with 'Christian Identity', which I personally find LARPy and dumb)

P.S. I'm not a Christian.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew
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catholic.com/quickquestions/if-jesus-was-a-jew-why-are-we-catholic
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christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-1
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texemarrs.com/062005/who_are_gods_chosen_article.htm
8ch.net/pdfs/res/3731.html#4312
renegadetribune.com/the-celebrations-in-the-life-of-the-ss-family/
renegadetribune.com/adolf-hitler-did-not-die-a-christian-man/
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Huh, those are basically the tenets I believe already, didn't know they were in line with what Christians in the 3rd Reich believed.

Its basically Christianity that makes sense.

I really can't understand the level of schizophrenia necessary to believe Jews are bad people and then take anything written in the old-testament ( which is indeed a disgusting collection of books ) as gospel or something worthy of any respect.

I get that they didnt like christianity and wanted to reinvent it. But I feel like a lot of the origins of anti-semetic views among germanic christians came originally from both the concept of Jews being the 'Christ Killers' aswell as the idea that Jews exploiting the Goyim with usury was immoral and analogous with Jesus being betrayed by Judas with the 30 shekles of silver.

So to me it would make sense that the nazis would try and focus mainly on that to 'make christianity great again' in a sense.

Positive Christianity was just a stepping stone to get Germans off Christianity. They knew Christianity was degenerate, sbut they couldn't take people off it cold turkey, so they made positive Christianity that at least removed some of the degeneracy.

Because Christian antisemitism is completely superficial. It doesn't care about Jews as a racial group, just as a religious one, so it doesn't even address the core of the Jewish problem.

Agree, there is good jews , jesus is an example

Colossians 3:11

There was nothing wrong with Christianity. They had contempt for it because Christians, while supportive of Hitler, wouldn't bow to any man. Kikes being of the Synagogue of Satan is biblical. There's nothing to correct besides ignorance of that.

Too many retards believe Jew lies about Christianity but claim to be "Jew wise" SMDH

"Oy Vey goyim, dontcha know we're the chosen ones and Jesus was a Jew, even though we killed him and reject him til this day?"

heh-heh

Perfect example right here:


Christianity is simply degenerate and fosters philosemitic sentiments.

…you know that was written by Saul of Tarsus, right ?

Real Eyes Realize Real Lies.

I dont get why they feel like they could 'get rid of' christianity when its a very integral part of their history. Some of the most notable parts of German culture and history involves christianity.

- Martin Luther
- Iron cross
- Brandenburg gate staff with the Iron cross
- hatred of Jews as evil spawns of satan
- a sense of moral duty, honor, and reverency

I could probably keep going on

I'd love to see the little LARPing beta pagan fags go up against a Christian man like this youtube.com/watch?v=QZzsfaAMbtU

According to the Orthodox and the Traditional Catholics, if it isn't nihilistic and the followers don't willingly martyr themselves to get off this Earth, it isn't Christianity.

Because they could.

So was a bunch of other crap that was gone, like Holy Roman empire and so on. Culture changes with the wind, which is why NS puts the focus on race.

And this is a complete lie. All of these are inherent to Germans before Christianity ever existed. In fact, Christianity is a dishonorable religion that reveres lying subhuman kikes like Moses and David. Christianity reduces honor greatly.

Christianity is semitic, of course Hitler wouldn't like it. But the populace was too pozzed for a return to the true Aryan faiths, so he modified the faith to be like the Nietzschean Zartoshti ideal. You could tell he desperately wanted a total conversion into the enlightened faiths, which is why he went all buddy buddy with Iran. Perhaps if he had more time he could have pulled it off. But c'est la vie.

Martin Luther is the prime example of why Christianity needs to be reformed.

Secluded fellow studies the bible for 3 decades, turns into a philosemite because "hur dur Jesus was a Jew", 5 years after actually interacting with them and trying to convert them and hes at "Burn their synagogues and condemn them to forced labor"

Yeah. Christianity is nihilistic and hedonistic to the core.

Agreed, IMO the biggest weakness of the right is christcuckery.

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They didn't. That's just something Allied kikes made up to frighten the normalfags of the 1940s.

Its not Christianity itself, but the poor aesthetics of the people associated with it.

Put Glenn Beck in front of a camera and you just created 10000+ liberals across the US.

That did happen in some aspects but it comes across as total historical revisionism with stuff such as that Jesus was totally not a Jew but a blonde blue eyed Aryan who hated pharisee kikes.

How is that not revisionism

Why do I always end up reading this after walls of text in support of Christianity?

laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Fascism/Germany/D. Cajus Fabricius - Positive Christianity in Third Reich.pdf

Here's a book, Positive Christianity in the Third Reich which explains what Positive Christianity is

laraj.ca/AGwiki/ as a whole is just a good resource, everyone should look into it

Please dont post cartoons in this thread about god, dont you have a single ounce of respect for our lord and savior Jesus Christ?

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I'm not in support of christianity, I probably lean more towards pagan larping because its a religeon connected to my ethnic origins.

I like the fact that days of the week are named after the gods my ancestors worshipped for a long ass time rather than a god who they worshipped for less than a thousand years.

But I also think that simply writing off christianity as a mistake and going on like non of it ever happened doesnt seem like a good solution to the identity crisis that is christianity.

I going to be 100% serious here and say that it doesn't actually sound as crazy we waz kagz tier of revisionism to me.

In an era where Judea was a hotbed of rebellion and religious/cultural hatred against Rome, Jesus was the leader of a movement trying to reinvent Judaism while being tolerant of non-Jews in stark contrast to the century old tradition of Jewish supremacy instead of defending his supposed "people" and native religion.

Also nobody really knows who his true father is ( if you don't really believe the virgin birth myth ).

Its really that incredible to think his father was a Roman soldier or something like that ?

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Of course we do.

How about no


The Russian Rodnover movement is extremely heterogeneous.[27] The first Rodnover association in Russia was registered in 1994.[28] Rodnover groups in the Russian Federation include the Union of Slavic Native Faith Communities based in Kaluga.[citation needed] Russian centers of Rodnovery are situated also in Dolgoprudny, Pskov, and other cities.[citation needed] Moscow has several temples of the Slavic native faith.[citation needed] Most Russian Rodnovers draw their material from some combination of written medieval chronicles, archaeological evidence, 19th and 20th century fakelore, artistic invention, direct "divine revelation" and many variants of the Aryan myth, which place the source of the Slavic civilization and its beliefs as far away as the Etruscans and even Atlantis.[29]

Some strains of Rodnovery in Russia are characterised by racist and antisemitic views.[30] In 1992 a political party ("Russkaya Partiya") associated with Slavic native faith issued a manifesto, calling for declaration of "Christianity (which preaches the idea of God-chosen Jewish people) a Jewish ideology, and a foreign religion that aids the establishment of a Zionist yoke in Russia".[31]

In Russia and Ukraine, many followers of Slavic native faith use the Book of Veles as a sacred text. This work is considered by scholars in general to be a 20th-century literary forgery.[32]

Most, but not all, Rodnovers place a heavy emphasis on some form of nationalism as part of their ideology combined with anti-Christian sentiment (they consider Christianity a Jewish superstition). In some cases, this may be limited to a commitment to preserve national tradition and folklore; in other cases, it may include chauvinism directed against other ethnic groups. Dr. Victor Schnirelmann, a cultural anthropologist at the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology in Moscow, has written that ethnic nationalism, xenophobia, homophobia, racism, and antisemitism are core values of many Russian Rodnover groups, and that they base their ideology on the Aryan myth.[33] Schnirelmann also says that the Russian native faith is prevalent among the skinhead groups in Russia.[34]

Recent translations into Russian of "racist and antisemitic teachings" by the Italian fascist Julius Evola and the antisemitic theosophist Alice Bailey support this tendency, he says.[35]

The Moscow Bureau of the Human Rights Watch notes prevalence of xenophobic, racist, and antisemitic views among Russian native faith groups.[36] In 2010 there were several incidents of violence by Russian native faith extremists against Orthodox Christians and non-Russians.[37]

Roman Shizhensky, a scholar of Russian Rodnovery, states that it is a manufactured "parareligious" movement based on fabricated mythology.[38] The scholar Victor Schnirelmann expresses a similar opinion.[39] Russian Rodnovery has been described by the culturologist I.B.Mikheyeva as "highly politicized quasireligion" with extremist tendencies.[40][41] Schnirelmann gives a similar assessment of a "quasireligion" based largely on ideology. His assessment is an interpretation of the statements of Russian Rodnover leaders.[42]

According to a religious census of Russia of the year 2012,[43] there are around 750,000 Rodnovers in the country.[44]

VERY offensive pls remove.

Jews were NEVER the 'everlasting' chosen people. Everytime they abandoned God, he let niggers take over (kinda like Europe right now actually).

One time early in the Bible, God even wanted to replace them with a completely different people but Moses said he wanted to keep leading the Jews.

even if Jesus's actual biological father was roman that'd still make him legally a Jew and biologically half semetic.

everyone's ignoring this post and it's the most important post in the whole thread. This is the resource the NSDAP used in regards to Positive Christianity, check it out

ITT: We go on our weekly pagan vs Christianity in-fighting.

Good job guys, why can't we have a humor thread instead? It's been a while since we've had a good one?

The fact is Christianity got pozzed at several points in it's practice but not in theory. In theory it's opposed to the synagogue of Satan (Jews).

Martin Luther got brought up. Read the jews and their lies. Luther wrote one of the greatest shitposts against the Jews ever and it gets swept under the rug all the time.

Look at the Catholic church history pre-vatican II. It was actually pretty decent against the influences of the Jews.
(Look up Sictus Judaeius Non)

Eastern Orthodoxy says the anti-christ will be Jewish. (Official religion of Russia)

So give it a break. Christianity is for one, true. Second, put the Jews in their place for around 1800 years with only a few notable historical events where the Jews temporarily got the upper hand before being BTFO again. (Usually coincided with the Church finding out about the Talmud).

There is a difference between blindless hate and killing, and Jesus btfoing Pharisees (Remember Rabbi's trace their lineage back to them.)

To be Christ like is to follow Christ's example. The problem is liberalism has affected the Church today. Remember, this is not changing the words in the Bible but them willingly interpreting them wrong to fit in with modern culture. This spreads to denying even how Jesus acted and trying to open up "inter-religious" communication. This leads to the Vatican II saying Jews don't need to be ministered to. This leads to people ignoring Acts saying God gave each man his habitation and boundaries (Nations) and trying to merge us all together into one (Globalism).

Take heed, Christ is Lord and Christianity stands for most of what Holla Forums does. The only step you have to go farther is to submit to Jesus as your Lord. Pagan's and Nietzsche faggots won't see this but historically Christianity has done quite fucking well with dealing with the Jewish question. It'd be best that we revive that.

Hi, intl.

It signals to his fellow intl posters that this is the thread to raid.

Reported for being a muslim

Sage the thread, dipshit.

No

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This movement started almost 500 years before the Third Reich. You should read up on Dr. Martin Luther, and the work he did learning Hebrew to correct translation mistakes in the Septuagint. Dr. Martin Luther was a supreme anti-Semite and I'm a proud adherent to non-pozzed (read: non-Evangelical) Lutheranism.

On a similar note, the KJV is still probably the least pozzed Bible with a lot of the translation work being derivitive of Luther's, and some actual martyrs' work.

Sage. The. Thread. Dipshit.

Let's put that aside for a moment. The whole neo-Nazi movement with its tattoos, its drunkenness, and its life in and out of prison is really kind of shit. Respect for these people and their sincerity and the sacrifices they made, but even before he bailed, George Burdi wrote a song about how disgusted he was with the skinheads who would go to Rahowa concerts in the 1990s.

ptm… wow

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Three quotes from him at different times on his journey from pozzed “Christianity” to real Christianity.

I hope that if one deals in a kindly way with the Jews and instructs them carefully from Holy Scripture, many of them will become genuine Christians and turn again to the faith of their fathers, the prophets and patriarchs. They will only be frightened further away from it if their Judaism is so utterly rejected that nothing is allowed to remain, and they are treated only with arrogance and scorn. If the apostles, who also were Jews, had dealt with us Gentiles as we Gentiles deal with the Jews, there would never have been a Christian among the Gentiles. Since they dealt with us Gentiles in such brotherly fashion, we in our turn ought to treat the Jews in a brotherly manner in order that we might convert some of them. For even we ourselves are not yet all very far along, not to speak of having arrived.
When we are inclined to boast of our position we should remember that we are but Gentiles, while the Jews are of the lineage of Christ. We are aliens and in-laws; they are blood relatives, cousins, and brothers of our Lord. Therefore, if one is to boast of flesh and blood, the Jews are actually nearer to Christ than we are, as St. Paul says in Romans 9. God has also demonstrated this by his acts, for to no nation among the Gentiles has he granted so high an honor as he has to the Jews. For from among the Gentiles there have been raised up no patriarchs, no apostles, no prophets, indeed, very few genuine Christians either. And although the gospel has been proclaimed to all the world, yet He committed the Holy Scriptures, that is, the law and the prophets, to no nation except the Jews, as Paul says in Romans 3 and Psalm 147, ‘He declares his word to Jacob, his statutes and ordinances to Israel. He has not dealt thus with any other nation; nor revealed his ordinances to them.’
– That Jesus Christ Was Born a Jew, 1523

We want to deal with them in a Christian manner now. Offer them the Christian faith that they would accept the Messiah, who is even their cousin and has been born of their flesh and blood; and is rightly Abraham’s Seed, of which they boast. Even so, I am concerned [that] Jewish blood may no longer become diluted and impure.
First of all, you should propose to them that they be converted to the Messiah and allow themselves to be baptized, that one may see that this is a serious matter to them.
However, if they are converted, abandon their usury, and receive Christ, then we will willingly regard them our brothers.
Yet, we will show them Christian love and pray for them that they may be converted to receive the Lord, whom they should properly honor more than we.
If the Jews would be converted and stop their blaspheming and whatever else they have done to us, then we will gladly forgive them.
– Final Warning Against the Jews, 1537

But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty-thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them.
Therefore be on your guard against the Jews, knowing that wherever they have their synagogues, nothing is found but a den of devils in which sheer selfglory, conceit, lies, blasphemy, and defaming of God and men are practiced most maliciously and veheming his eyes on them.
Moreover, they are nothing but thieves and robbers who daily eat no morsel and wear no thread of clothing which they have not stolen and pilfered from us by means of their accursed usury. Thus they live from day to day, tighter with wife and child, by theft and robbery, as archthieves and robbers, in the most impenitent security.
However, they have not acquired a perfect mastery of the art of lying; they lie so clumsily and ineptly that anyone who is just a little observant can easily detect it.
– On the Jews & Their Lies, 1543

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If the Table Talks are to believed, even Hitler-sama abandoned the idea of positive christianity.

sage

Yes…yes goy…Do my bidding

I actually keep a copy of On the Jews next to my copy of Mein Kampf.

You ever get the feeling the kikes want to shoah the Germans because the modern German language (heavily derived from Dr. Martin Luther's Bible) is 100% anti-Semitic?

(polite bump)

this is top quality humor

Ive learned that Christians don't want to be Positive Christianity. They want the negative.

They want to be fucking Jew slaves


They want to be fucking Jew slaves


They want to be fucking Jew slaves


They want to be fucking Jew slaves

sage

Jews hold grudges for fucking ever. The Russians were picked for commie revolution and genocide because the Russian Empire went against the jews’ will by intervening in the American Civil War. Jews supported Germany in WWI… UNTIL the bolsheviks gave them their own nation in Russia. After that we saw things like this.

You’ve learned wrong.

this.

the bible is already antisemitic if you read it correctly

removing books and turning jesus into a blondie is unnecessary

All of these are sinful to true Orthodox Christians though. Orthodox scholars and monks make it clear that the World is the worst thing ever. The true Orthodox hate everything that is worldly, and memes, food and women are all worldly things. Have you even read one page of the Philokalia?

Do we have leftover summerfags on this board still?

Why? Why would you even do that? Why not simply start your own bullshit religion where Adolf Hitler is the son of Aryam - the Aryan supergod? I just don't understand why you would debase the True Faith like that.

F**g Protestants.

And here the religion of the slave rears it's ugly head again.

Ha ha, no. The Sicut Judaeis was to protect the Jews, giving them protections that would never be given to their fellow Europeans who chose not to follow the Christ cult.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis

Christians are the lowest of the low.

No, just intl.

I couldn't care less about Jewish matriarchal nonsense then deciding who is a Jew or not to be honest.

His behavior ( if the gospels are to be believed ) is of a mixed race person that is confused and lost, as they normally are, and thus seeks to create a new identity for himself.

Or maybe that's just me seeing the effects of racial identity at play where there is none because i am a white nationalist.

Hi, intl.

While that is true…The eastern orthodoxy memes are pretty good. So cat's already out of the bag.

Positive Christianity was an attempt to ween the German people off of Christianity but it wasn't successful. Hitler remarked that the obstacle was Christianity itself. National Socialism on its own is more successful at weening people off of it.

The Bolshevik revolution happened before WW1 and the bolsheviks were mostly all kikes to begin with.

This is a Jewish lie. The Bible never says the Hebrews are 'the' chosen. They are only 'a' chosen. And their chosen status is revoked since the Crucifixion of Christ. Now anybody who accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior is chosen.

Once again, another (half) misunderstanding of the Bible. Jews worship Satan, but the God described in the Old Testament is the Father. There is plenty of scripture with Jesus making obvious references to the God of the Old Testament, i.e. Matthew 5:17, John 5:46, and so on.

But honestly, anti-Christian shilling is funny. Because the copy-pasted shill textual-sewage always gets BTFO so hard by the truth, it makes lurkers actually pick up a Bible and learn the shills are full of bullshit. The anti-Christians only make more pro-Christians. Top kek. Oh yeah, and only degenerates and Jews hate Christianity this much.

You have to admit your dad is your dad… when he whips out his dick and fucks your mom in front of you while chugging a beer and laughing like a maniac while staring you directly in the eyes.

Why do you kikes have such a hard time with admitting the truth? Why does admitting the truth have to mean you're a slave? Because your father is Satan? Yeah that must be why.

You are a liar because your father is a liar and you are of him.

Gonna spam this thread, nigger?

Christianity is already positive. It tells the Good News - that Jesus is Lord.

I can't say I disagree either. Look up Israel and churches. People say it's mostly only evangelicals who are pozzed but the stats show that even fucking Catholics are. All of them.

But it also shows that if Christianity dies, so so do support for Israel and dies. Look at Dem support for Israel for example. Well over 86%+ against Israel. Same among the youth, they hate Israel. The Jews have no future if Christianity is destroyed.

This

Positive Christianity is like methadone treatment that heroin addicts get, neither being effective.

I don't know a whole lot about Christianity in the third reich, but most of those beliefs are older than that.
Blond and blue eyed may be a stretch, but Jesus was clearly very different racially from Europe's Jews, since this was before the centuries of inbreeding that turned them into the kikes we all know and love.
Rejecting the OT is a bridge too far for me, but there's Biblical support for the idea that those who call themselves Jews after Christ are worshiping Satan. It certainly wouldn't have been a foreign idea to Christians throughout history.
Replacement theology is the obviously correct way to interpret the Bible–the Jews stopped being the chosen people when they rejected their Messiah. "Israel" in the New Testament refers to the Church, not the Jews.
Again, "Aryan" is a stretch here, but Jesus clearly did fight against the Judaism of his time.

Have you read the Old Testament? The Jews aren't exactly portrayed sympathetically. It's just story after story of them doing stupid Jew shit followed by God slapping them back into line until He finally gets so sick of their shit He comes down personally to tell them to fuck off.

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Not true, user. We just really love picking grapes to make Israeli farmers wealthier.

Wow you just got caught up to 1500AD. Now wait until you get the part where Protestantism is born!

Don't forget, the jews are responsible for and lead the "German Revolution" right after WW1 and thus instating the Wiemar Republic which was Communist to the core. Jews never supported Germany but they may have supported elements within Germany that played ball.

The basic principle was to leave them alone but segregated.

There were also two contingencies. No jew could hold positions of government or any authority over Christians. (No Christian slaves in the service of a Jew)

Any Jew who attempted to subvert the church lost protection of these rules (All bets were off the table).

They aren't going to show you that all on wikipedia because goys might start thinking it's a good idea. Basically Sictus Judaeius turns them into second class citizens unless they voluntarily give up their judaism and convert. (Most of the problems that came later like the Spanish problem were due to forced conversions)

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So you're not willing to live a life devoid of worldly affairs, dedicated exclusively to repeating the Jesus prayer, going to Church as often as possible, shunning any temptation, fervently singing the psalms every single day? Why even bother?

Nah, you’re already doing it.

During, boyo.
Which is why they supported Germany… UNTIL it happened. Fuck’s sake.

Hi, intl.

Luke … i am your father!

Could you please stop posting cartoons this is a serious thread about our faith , show some respect

hell is forever, dont use the image of god in vain

While giving them a monopoly on usury thanks to Christian restrictions on moneylending to fellow Christians.

Jews in Middle Ages gained enormous wealth, to the point where the average Jew '''lived at the level of the lower nobility." That is not the richest Jews, that is the average.


The latter reference [5] is from Roth, N. (2002). Medieval Jewish Civilization: An Encyclopedia. Routledge Encyclopedias of the Middle Ages 7. London: Routledge. ISBN 0415937124.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew

Jews lived apart in wealthy communities while being offered protections that were accorded to no other non-Christians.

Only a Christian would think this was somehow good.

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Non-sequitir. Typical kike response.


YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

I did and i find its dignification as part of the Bible to be the greatest mistake Christians ever made.

One only has to see the retardation of the Adventist Church to understand what i am talking about.

Suicide bomb a synagogue, muslim.

YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE CHANGED YOUR IP, KIKE

Well for one I'm not eastern orthodoxy. I'm Lutheran. If I were to rate the denominations / orthodoxies, Eastern Orthodoxy would almost be at the top for me with Luther.

You can see where Hitler was coming from with Positive Christianity. Even on Holla Forums the Semite poz is strong.

why you dont want to be saved. are cartoon of little girls worth a eternity in the purgatory

but that wasn't kek, just some senile jewish rabbi who was goodified

I guess it serves him right, since he is defending a No Fun Allowed cult based on guilt.

sage

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I'm just trying to save souls and guide them to the path of christ . i didnt change my ip

The Usury issue was quite a blunder from an otherwise very good policy.

Remove the ability for them to use Usury and you've cut most of their power in general. (Then implement Sictus Judaeius Non)

He posts pictures of Orthodox monks, but lives a life that would be abhorrent to said monks. This is the average Christian, they feel high and mighty above what they perceive as sinners, but according to their "blessed" (((Church Fathers))) and (((Desert Fathers)), they themselves live a sinful life.

Then why would you even post Orthodox Monks? You should be posting Swedish women pastors because they're Lutheran too.

I don't think i ever filtered so many people in a single thread.

Truly a uphill battle trying to have this discussion here.

why would you worship a frog instead of the son of god

You couldn't be more distant from the truth my man. All you had to do is eat the damn apple.

Christians have been trying for centuries but some of us still remember the place of our ancestors and those that love us so dearly who await our return.

kek

My Christian meme folder is dangerously low user. I was just having a jest.

Yeah, they just overlooked the part about Jews becoming fabulously wealthy. As in, wealthier than kings.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_of_Lincoln

Jesus Christ being a raging anti-Kike wouldn't make much sense at all without the Septuagint. You need the background story of how the kikels squandered the blessings of the only God to the point he had to repeatedly push their shit in, and ultimately destroyed all their countries of origin.

Remember that the "Jews" of the Septuagint were long dead by the time Jesus walked the Earth, and for all intents and purposes you should think "Judean" instead of "Jew" for this reason.

But thats not a valkyrie , is a perverted cartoon of a little girl

Meguca is not a Valkyrie, she is an archetype. Transcended meguca is off limits user-kun.

Only a real kike would deny the truth, and suggest knowing the truth makes you a slave. Stay kosher, Shlomo.

things jesus did: died

things kek did: gives us repeating numerals and memes trump into power

he died for your sins so you could go to heaven yet you choose to worship a god and suffer a eternity in hell

Actually it's Hoppe-chan and she was used as a reaction image.


I didn't post one.

This is complete bullshit.

In reality, Jews were a privileged class all through Christian history. They should have been killed, but the church protected them.

false god

The Pope isn't a fucking banker user.

I agree with you that it was a terrible mistake. Pick up any semi unpozzed book on the history of commerce and you'll realize Jews invented a lot of these methods of banking. Seems more like a:


Thing, than a cooperation if you're trying to imply that.

It's not surprising to me that the Church got dealt a blow with this at times because they only understood Usury as a sin for Christians, not as a method of subversion.

Hoppou-chan*

oh thanks for giving me original sin so you can then fix it, real smart of you RABBI YESHUA

Didn't check the ID, sorry.

Yfw you realize that Madoka has more theological depth and more sound philosophical basis than Christianity

Sure thing. Whatever you want to believe.

No one’s denying that people are being lied to about what Christianity actually is.

The most antisemitic thing that Jesus did is come back from the dead.
WHAT, DID YOU KIKES THINK THAT YOU COULD KILL GOD HIMSELF?!

Wrong again christfag. Even your image shows why christfaggotry is degenerate. It places the best men in monasteries where they waste their genes for Jesus. It is a completely dysgenic religion. Compare this to Judaism where the smartest Jews get the best wives or Islam where they get multiple wives. Imagine how high European IQ would be if we hadn't been cucking our best out of existence for hundreds of years.

You're welcome, you're still going to burn in hell for being a Kike, but you're welcome for giving you original sin.

You could have believed my Son, and been absolved of your sins, but no. You children haven't learned in over 6000 years not to fuck with me. So, and as per usual, I'm gonna fuck your shit up in some way that will, in the future, most certainly be refered to as "Biblical".

You mentioned archetypes however, and the "Valkyrie" is an archetype for waifu.

But that point is lost to anyone but a dedicated person that seeks to understand the Bible as a whole.

And i understand that such as the type of person reading the Book circa 350AD, but then my local pastor opens the Bible and he is reading about David, the fool believes he is seeing something that should be taken as a role-model.

And so does every other only moderately interested Christian i ever met, they are very lost about this immense book they will obviously never read from cover to cover and just want to be correctly told what is the right thing to do, not know the entire history of the Jewish people.

Yes yes, I don't venerate a stick Jew djinn so I'm the Jew. Makes a lot of sense.

Yes, but i meant the specific instance. You can't have goddess as a waifu, at least not at this point.

Some of them surely managed to do that. Remember they're they're children of the devil while they practice Judaism.

It's kinda hard to prevent all cases from happening when the person you're dealing with has free reign to lie and cheat.

This is why I say power fell back to the Church at certain discoveries of the Talmud or Jewish converts who warned the Church. Peasants got into an uproar at times and were going to slaughter loads of Jews but the Pope couldn't let that happen.

As bad as they are you can't repay evil with evil. That doesn't mean you're defenseless or can't do anything (for instance all bets being off the table at times) but mindless slaughter isn't worthy of anything.

Reported for obvious kike shill.

Dont bully anime-posters

Hi, intl.

If the Pope and the Church was really this stupid, how can you say that they represented anything positive?

And why should Jews get protections not afforded to pagan Europeans? For that matter, why should Gypsies have gotten protections not afforded to pagan Europeans? Or converted Muslims?


Christians were well aware what usury was.

Hey, feel free to post them, but at least sage when you do.

Lol…a handful of monks. It's the natural order of the world that the best are weeded out at times. Better cases of this is literally from Hitler. Even he recognized how the gene pool gets fucked in times of war because you're best men die.

So don't give me that faggot, wars have done far fucking more than a couple of monasteries did.

Not to mention monks help other people become better men.

That all started with the Scofield reference bible that the Jews spread around to subvert us. Your local pastor can't refute the word of Christ himself. Ask him to do so, you'd be surprised.

Do I expect a veterinarian to run a nuclear power plant?

It wasn't a handful. People gave one tenth of their income to the church back then. There were many priests and monasteries.

And that life and the world are meaningless. That the ultimate paradise means living in eternal pleasure with no pain. It is a nihilistic and hedonistic religion, and is the root of all European degeneracy.

You refuse to admit truth because you say it makes you a slave. The truth is that God abandoned you Juden for being degenerates. First he wrecked your shit entirely, about four times you were completely fucked. Remember that one time when you got fucked so hard you were slaves and then had to wander in the desert for 40 fucking years?

It makes a lot of sense that a person condemned to Hell by the Son of God would despise both the Son and the Father, and deny the Truth. It makes complete sense.

How does such a bizarre analogy answer anything? Is this what Christianity does to the brain?

And most European wars have been about christfaggotry. Doubly dysgenic

Citation needed.

Never happened, retard. Believing Jewish fairy tales makes you a cuck.

There is absolutely zero evidence that Jews were ever in exile in Egypt. Exodus is the proto-Holocaust in that neither happened but Jews use it to further their own racial goals. Sorry, you got memed on by bronze age Jews, but keep thinking you're redpilled though.

Well, mine's not a "goddess" anyway.

I never said anything about Egypt, Mr. Kangz.

Them being slaves in Egypt is certainly the proto-Holohoax.

These things are all actually canon, OP. Jesus spent years preaching against Jews and their false religion. Watch Steven Anderson's videos on Jews and why they are the enemy, he explains everything by citing scripture. The fact that Catholics and Evangelicals lick the kikes' boots doesn't mean that what's written in the Bible isn't there, just that they don't follow it.

Please watch this video.

user can you not into basic logic?


Read the "Jewish Revolutionary Spirit".

There was ALOT of jewish influence that managed to pervert some Christians that lead to a lot of these events. In-fighting happens because in the Christian worldview men are naturally sinful.

The only one I would actually said handled it properly was Luther.

Calvin and friends were all philo-semites. (Luther was for a time but if you read the Jews and Their Lies the bantz there are absolutely golden against the das juden)

This edgy crap has to grow old eventually doesn't it? You should listen to the other Christ-user

top kek

The reason Christcucks are traitorous fsggots right here.

"If you kill your enemies, they win."- christcuck

It wasn't. Many many examples given itt

His name wasn't Judas for nothing.

Just wait until they bring out that one image where 'turn the other cheek' doesn't actually mean turning the other cheek but actually that you savagely kill your opponents. That one is always good for a laugh.

Implying that scripture didn't get changed 1000 times to fit all kinds of different political and religious goals through history

Average christcuck couldn't even explain his religion (even from a purely faith based perspective)

Explain to us how the ability to observe fantastic wealth requires the depth of skill needed to operate a nuclear power plant?

Do you have trouble observing wealth? Is it that opaque to you?

Who was Nebuchadnezzar II?

HE PUSHED YOUR SHIT IN, JEW

Quite Jewish of you, user. Pilpul, I believe. Not surprising to see this sort of semitic behavior coming from a christfaggot.

There's a difference between mastering control of a problem and flailing your sword around thinking that'll solve anything. One has actual glory and honor the other just puts you on the level of a barbarian.

The Bible teaches you to use your brain when confronted with a usurper like the Jew.

I can't believe I never realised this until now. If you read all the times whites let Jews in, it was because the kikes just pointed to that story in the bible crying woe is me only for white Christians for centuries past to learn why they deserve to be expelled to begin with.

Oh and of course that whole Titus and the Romans curb stomping the kikes and their temple (muh 4 BILLION) to the point that kikes in Israel to this very day can't help but drag world leaders up to their shitty little whining wall.

Again, show us the Bible reference or references where 'God abandoned Juden for being degenerates.'

You made the claim, now back it up.

I always figured it was some sort of Jew pun about taking it in the ass. Sodomy and Christianity have always gone hand in hand after all.

A based pagan and ancient ancestor of based Saddam. Not a christfag, that's for sure.

The entire old testament is literally kikes oy veying about being persecuted and making up fake holohoax-tier stories.

The question is, what takes priority in a Jew's hierarchy of hatred? Christians or Whites? Or do they only hate you if you're both?

All I'm saying is I don't think you've actually studied it. Memes are sometimes wrong.

Trust me there is tons of guilt to hang on the Jews and tons of ways to look at how disgusting their religion is but falling back on the
meme doesn't actually show any understanding.

Trust me I'm not trying to act holier than thou right now I really want you to look into it.

You can try to rationalize it all you want Christcuck, but you're actually a Trudeau-tier faggot and you know it.

Christians never cease to amaze….

Literally didn't. Old scrolls that haven't been touched for over a thousand years get discovered all the time and nothing has been changed.
Also you sound like an atheist kike that loves empty churches just like your Frankfurt school Jew masters, therefore you're wrong.

The true Christian that follows the Bible fights against the enemy (the Jews), because that's what the Bible tells us to do. But you don't care about that, I completely understand and accept that you and people like you have blinded yourselves by choice on matters of faith, and that no matter what anyone posts you won't bulge, so I'll leave it at that.

God let him push the Jews shit into slavery. That was IIRC the last time before their great diaspora.

So what is your opinion on the Book of Enoch?

I disagree, since the earliest times of the Christian church there existed confusion whether or not the Jews were to be taken as role-models, as evidenced by that Church Saul had to address explaining that there were no need for circumcisions and the lot.

Inserting the old-testament as gospel in the bible probably made an already existing problem even worse.


He didn't directly told me this, i got it from his language and his trips to ((( Israel ))).

The poor fool see kikes as some sort of role-model/holy people.

Yes it does. It shows understanding of modern archeology and understanding of the nature of the Jew as a subhuman lying race of scum.

Wait you're telling me I can't kill someone (a sin) and then be absolved? A-are you Jesus Christ? How could you possibly know such a thing?

The Bible actually taught me I could kill anyone with sufficient reason, and I can still be absolved of my sins.

Because at the end of the day I want them to see the light. I want to give them a chance.

When the point comes where they have absolutely gone to far and start endangering my people then justification for other methods may come into use.

And yeah, the world is probably coming to the realization that we're nearing that time.

Was there ever even a period where Christians only used the New Testament?

Gnosticism, when Christianity was young.

The problem is that the story if Jesus is entirely dependent upon the truth of the old testament. If you don't accept the Jewish Messiah story from the OT, then Jesus is just a normal kike preaching race-suicide and utopian communism.

Considering the NT originates from Greece, and both the Septuagint and original NT were written in Koine Greek I would say no.

It's going to be very vague, because while Jehova explicitly states several times that Jews are his chosen and will rule the world, no actual statement of his rescinds this promise.

That's not so strange, the old testament is the Jewish tribal religion after all.

The real question is why doesn't these "redpulpilled" Christians reject the old testament? Why hang on to this 90% of their dogma which is all about how special Jews are, how Jehova always fusses and cares about his chosen, how they always win in the end etc.

Why not just throw it out and base their religion solely on the new testament, which albeit multicultural and proto-socialist, at least doesn't elevate Jews to kangz explicitly?

The inferiority complex this cult creates in the cultist when they get their hands on him young is extreme. Hours and hours of hearing about how special Jews are does something to his brain. He loves and hates Jews. He wants to be Jew. He wants to be special to Jehova like the chosen.

Ok, so you will ignore countless scrolls that disagree with you and cherry pick the ones that fit your narrative? Absolutely semitic my Christian friend.

And you will fail to mention that in your version of christcuckery, "Jews" are some completely abstract concept that you cannot actually fight in reality.

Modern day Jews sure. Jews going back to the time of Christ sure.

Israelites? They had an entirely different religion as much as the Jew tries to tell you otherwise (Oh look an actual lie from das juden).

Notice the exodus wasn't actually a holocaust story. Some babies died and some of the israelites were put into slave labor. Oh wow that's totally comparable to the 60 million children killed wrapped in talmud scrolls or the 14 million killed by Romans claimed by the Talmud.

The history of holocausts lies with the Talmud not the Bible.

I simply don't believe it because of it's contents that do not match neither reality nor the Bible. Enoch tells about giants that were over 3 times taller than Goliath…

Because the NT makes it clear that the "Jews" from the OT are all dead already, and that the new "Jews" are actually Christians now.

"Jews" are actually Judeans. Hope that helps.

Why don't Christians accept Madoka instead of Jesus? She literally died for our sins.

So the canon of books were selected, one might say curated even. That's a far cry from 'b-but its a body of pure and unaltered texts'. As if you'd know what a pure text of the bible when all you've ever read is probably KJV, the literal worst translation ever.

Because you bundle the word Jew with the people from Judea and Israel. You can absolutely fight the kikes, and you should do so. And they are as easy to identify to me and they are to you or anyone else.

Christianity is a false religion. Do you understand that these values on display in your post from Christianity are what underlie modernity? There is a reason liberalism, communism, and modernism arose in Christian society and not elsewhere. It is because they are natural extensions of the various philosophical foundations of Christianity. The ethics of individual salvation, goals of hedonistic afterlife (implying pleasure as the greatest good), humanistic "sin" and personal relationship with Rabbi jesus, etc.

Wow. I know at least Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants all disagree with that interpretation, so that's almost every Christian ever.

Where do you get this amazing bit of information no other Christian have ever known about? I prefer if the passage says that explicitly, like when Jehova says Jews are his special people. Not some vague shit I have to run fifty times through some strange brainwash algorithm before it makes sense.

I'm waiting in suspense!

Hello friends, I'm new to /christian/. I have some questions I hope you can help me with.

What do Holla Forums Christians think of Zionism?

I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are on Zionism and Zionist influence on Christians.

Is Zionist control of Media and Governments a sin?

How we forgive Zionists while helping them stop from sinning?

Is Christianity a form of Zionism?

Not trolling here just looking for helpful answers.

Thank you all, God bless.

Remove everything from Christianity but the aesthetics and it can be saved.

Great post.


It is so strange that they didn't do this, but perhaps the nature of Christianity and its drive towards orthodoxy and rigidity from at least the time of the Nicene creed makes such change impossible.

mentioned Gnosticism, and no doubt there were other marginal Christian groups who did this. Gnostics, Adamites, Brethren of the Free Spirit and others are almost a completely different religion from what we know as Christianity.

Not really. The values were all exactly the same and the kikes in the Bible act exactly like kikes today. Take, for example, the story of Esther. This is basically about a Jew father whoring our his daughter to a king so that they can subvert the kingdom and convince the king to oppress his own people for the benefit of the Jews. Sound familiar? It should because it's exactly what jews have been doing for hundreds of years.

Fun fact, most of it's aesthetics got "borrowed" from European paganism so it gets accepted easier.

Kill all kikes; reeducate what people who call themselves Christian you can.
Dur-hey.
For the jews, you just kill them. To undo a jew is not sin, but charity. For the people who call themselves Christian, you whip out the Bible and show them where they’re wrong. Use Marching to Zion, too. If they refuse to change, you kill them, too. Zionism is the genocide of Christianity and God calls us to fight back against such sins.
For fuck’s sake, no.

So you don't know any actual Christians, cool story kikebro.

Where do you get this amazing bit of information no other Christian have ever known about? I prefer if the passage says that explicitly, like when Jehova says Jews are his special people. Not some vague shit I have to run fifty times through some strange brainwash algorithm before it makes sense.

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
-t. Jesus Christ

That was literally his thing. Going around telling Judeans they weren't actually Jews and they were going to burn in Hell for defiling his Father's House.

Nice try, Rabbi.

t. Rabbi Jeshua

Die, kike.

The main problem stems from the fact that the word Jew/Judaism has multiple meanings, but most people don't realize this. This confusion was brought about intentionally. The word Jew was invented a couple centuries ago in English translations of the Bible as a shortened form of the word Judean. This refers to the province of Judea, which at the time of the New Testament was a multi-racial, multicultural area, whose capital city was Jerusalem, which was controlled by the Pharisees. Jesus and most of his disciples did not come from Judea–they came from Galilee–and therefore were not Jews by the Biblical definition. Judea was originally inhabited by the Israeli tribe of Judah, but by this point was quite mixed. Whereas Galilee was inhabited only by the Israeli tribe of Benjamin. The only disciple that was a Jew was Judas, who betrayed Jesus.
The Pharisees were the evil Talmudists who Jesus opposed, and who ultimately got Jesus killed for daring to disagree with them. Later, Jerusalem was destroyed, and some Pharisees survived and became rootless nomads. Along the way they mixed with more people who converted to Talmudism. Then, after the invention of the English word Jew, the Talmudists started calling themselves Jews, and renamed their religion Judaism. They started claiming that they’re the people who lived in ancient Israel, and that they’re the “chosen people” spoken of in the Bible. In reality, their religion completely contradicts the Old Testament–even the Torah–and they know it, but they’ll never admit it. They brought about such a deliberate conflation and confusion of the word Jew that today people now use a definition of Jew that is expanded to include everyone in ancient Israel when that’s not at all what Jew meant originally. They also like to conflate Judaism with Hebrewism, but the religion of the Pharisees (Talmudism) only began after they returned from captivity in Babylon, and the Old Testament religion of the Hebrew people before that was quite different. Today, only a tiny minority of people who call themselves “Jews” don’t follow the Talmud.
The modern confusion comes from the fact that most people–even most Christians–don’t realize this linguistic and historical deception. This is especially true of the English-speaking world (Protestants, foremost), due to modern, bastardized, heretical translations of the Bible, plus a divorce from the true traditions of the original Christian church. They’ve totally forgotten how the Jews persecuted Christians endlessly before Christians eventually gained power through the Roman Empire and started dishing it right back to them. Just like a nation becomes ruined when it forgets its own history, the same is true of a religion. In fact, the same arguments used to claim that Christianity is inherently weak because it has now been subverted can be used to say that Western nations are inherently weak because they have been subverted, or that white people are inherently weak because a genocide is being committed upon them thanks to their altruism. It’s just not a good argument at all.

No clue what you're trying to say with this.

The goal isn't pleasure as the greatest good but perfect communion with the father and freedom from sin. It's a spiritual goal. Pleasure in itself can be sinful or fine.

Once again no clue. Are you trying to say our definitions of sin are humanistic?

He was not a rabbi in the sense of being any part of Judaism. If we're using rabbi as a synonym for "teacher" than of course he was a teacher.

You other points seems to point to saying that Christianity is constrained by systems of government.

If Hitler got only one thing right his statement on not putting Government imposed charity (socialism) on the people but rather encouraging them to do so out of the kindness of their heart and for the good of their fellow man was much much more in line with Christianity than these jewed out systems like communism and modernism.

Most people are stupid so they go along with whatever is in the current day thought. The Bible quite literally teaches virtues but apparently you have a problem with that. It says nothing about putting a system of government in place to enforce that. That'd actually go against Christianity because you should be doing it from your heart like that Hitler quote.

There seems to be some binary switches in your thought here. The truth is virtues and actions can be displayed in complex ways. Don't try to take the example of those commies who go to church to try to fufill pascal's wager and then go out whoring on the weekend as an example.

Hi, intl.

They spread as separate books before being all joined in the Bible, didn't they ?

I believe a lot of the first converts to Christianity knew only of the gospels, or if they knew about the old testament, they correctly understood it as something separate from the gospels.


That's silly.

There is no necessity to corroborate the idea that Jesus was a special person by using Jewish sources prior to him which prophesied the coming of a special person then the Jews themselves decided that special person wasn't actually Jesus.

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We could, you know, just be good people for the sake thereof

Or the story of David. A scrawny kike who is challenged to a duel by a strong white man. The Jew cheats in the duel by throwing a rock at the white man, and then he is made king for tricking the dumb goyim by taking advantage of the goy's warrior honor.

I knew you'd post that passage. Still, it doesn't say " the "Jews" from the OT are all dead already," at all.

That passage is as open to interpretation as most of the other vague shit in your shit dogma.

Did he talk about all Jews? Some Jews? Which Jews? Who knows? You? No. You just interpret it to be what you want it to mean.

Meanwhile 99.999% of other Christians who are not westboro baptist lunatics or whatever you are, interpret it differently and acknowledge that Jews are Jews.


I can't remember that passage from when I read the Bible.

Must have missed that one.

People acted sinfully when their lack of trust in God faltered. Occasionally this still worked out for them. (Sidenote, To my knowledge I think Ester is the only book where God isn't mentioned or is said to act literally)

Also for you to say:

Seriously dude. I'm not trying to win anything here. Go read up on this shit. "Is Judaism the religion of Moses?" should be on the pdf archive somewhere. After going through other material it's kinda basic tier and I haven't been able to check everything it says but that should give you a good starting point.

There is a lot more to this than just being edgy or trying desperately to find parallels in the OT.

Not according to Christians. Their kike god says that we are all inherently scum no matter what we do, unless we become his good goy slaves

Not only that, but it's simply not how we use those words nowadays.


As someone already noted, the word Jew didn't even exist back then. You're making some type of distinction between Jews and Judeans, but Jew is simply a more modern of meaning Judean.

Yep, you missed it. Die, kike.

Reported for intl.

Particularly as that is from the Book of Revelations, which is extremely vague and metaphorical assuming any of it means anything compared to most of the rest of the Bible.

I'm curious what you even mean by this. If I were to agree to your terms (Which I find ignorant) that'd basically equate to God wanting us to be virtuous and remove degeneracy from our lives.

I mean if you consider that a "slave" somehow I'm not even sure why you're on Holla Forums. Do we not all seek to rid ourselves of degeneracy?

Autism didn't exist when Jesus Christ was alive, so the disciples didn't write it that way. By word and by deed there can be no argument that Jesus Christ was completely opposed to the people calling themselves "Jews". He went so far as to correct them by calling them liars, and stating the truth that they are not Jews, and they instead worship Satan.

You act like SJW's when triggered.

Notice how these 'redpilled' Europeans squabble over jewish manuscripts like good little Jewish lawyers over which part of the text can be hamfisted into their preconceived ideology.

Here is the standard Christcuck response

Wrong. The only "Jews" that exist today are Christians, but the Bible teaches us to not call ourselves Jews because liars like you say stupid shit like you just said. The Judeans are lying about being "Jews" because real "Jews" believe in God, while the Judean "Jews" believe in Satan.

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

I wouldn't put it that high but you'd be surprised.

Few have the drive like to autistically search for the truth through the Scripture and auxiliary resources like some of the other Christians on this board.

My favorite part is the dynamic between David the King and the heir apparent, at least if you read between the lines:

The heir apparent is such a beta cuck faggot that he falls in love with David precisely because David doesn't like his dad, he then proceeds to lose the throne on purpose, because fuck you dad i want to get fucked in the ass.

David, the king and the heir apparent*

Your god demands mindless obedience, not virtue. And Christianity is degenerate on it's own.

top kek

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Ethic of individual salvation. That it depends on his decisions and not his birth. It is an egalitarian and individualist position.

No it isn't. There is nothing at all spiritual about christfaggotry. You don't even know what spiritual means.

Yes, or that it is logically gives rise to humanism. It is also tied in with the individualism and egalitarianism mentioned earlier. Because the faults are attributed to "sin" and not to the person (hate the sin not the sinner). This naturally leads to a humanistic outlook, whete man is naturally good but only circumstances have made him bad, and that also all have the possibility for redemption.

No it doesn't.

Another reason it is degenerate and another root of liberalism. Confirming all that I have said.

You Are dumb

Good old reported for intl.


No, I've actually read your book. He says he's completely opposed to false Jews. He also says he's here for the Jews and not the goyim, and that not a single word of the old prophets are voided by him.

Paul the apostle then adds somewhat vaguely that goyim can be honorary Jews if they submit to Jesus.

That's sort of a shame, because it's led to this predicament, where your dogma is so vague that people with authority can put whatever they want into it. Which they do, and to great detriment for us all.

You say your extreme minority interpretation is correct, but we have nothing but your faith to go by on this.

There is no reason of any kind to believe that Jesus was referring to all Jews. Jesus was in conflict with the Pharisees and Sadducees, the ruling priesthood.

Jesus held up Abraham as an example:


John 8:39

You are disgusting

You are mindless and ignorant

You don't need to steal their identity, this is just silly.


k.

Mistranslation of Abraham's seed singular to Abraham's seeds plural.

Yep, thanks for admitting you’re intl.
Meaning those who call themselves jews but are not. And who are jews and who are not?
Hey look at that; everyone who calls himself a “jew” today is not actually a jew in Jesus’ eyes.
lol
Fulfilled, not abolished. The words mean different things.

REPORTED FOR INTL.

Check this out on Catholic.com It's really kind of amazing:

This is what Christians genuinely believe. That they are "completed" Jews.

no u

Reported for intl.

It doesn't matter what their religion is. Kikes are kikes. That is what is not getting through to you. They act the same as in the old testament today 100%. Even if the religion has changed, the jew has remained the same.

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Not even trying.

Pure heresey. I would bet a shekel they'll point to the genealogies in Matthew and Luke as proof. This denies the Immaculate Conception, and thus denies the Father.

What's intl? Is it what /christian/ fear instead of the jidf?


Autistic and Christian? Poor guy.

Reminder that catholics believe Mary lived without sin and was assumed into heaven to be co-mediatrix with Jesus.

Hi, intl.

link: catholic.com/quickquestions/if-jesus-was-a-jew-why-are-we-catholic

Yeah, those translators probably never read the Bible either.

Even with immaculate conception (top cuck lel), the father (god) is still a Jew.

She got so much shit from kikes in the media when she said that.

Can anyone explain Christian Identity to me? When browsing the internet I only find (((information))), so hopefully one of you can help me out.

Daily reminder that most pogroms and persecution (read; prosecution) of jews was done by Christians.

Mary was a direct descendant of King David. That has nothing to do with the Immaculate Conception.

God is a Jew because a LARPfagin / Kike said so.

BOTTOK KEK

Hey shlomo, how ya doing?

This is, once again, the product of making a gospel out of the old testament.

This idiot think Jews are just incomplete Christians because their holy book is only the old testament while he has the "full manual" from god.

All the things i could have change if only i went back in time with a machine-gun to that stupid council.

Citation needed. Mary was possibly a Levite.

It’s heresy that ignores the Bible.
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity
They want to be white supremacists but ignore the Bible, forgetting that the Bible already doesn’t give a shit about your race and explicitly doesn’t say to miscegenate.

Pic related, in a nut shell

You might need to read the Bible before you denounce it user.

I spent hours going through the Talmud dissecting it and only then felt I could judge it as evil.


Holy fuck you call me liberal but then say this shit.


Once again this is just unclear and not even an arguement just you being a sperg.


Except it's the whole "Body of Christ thing".

Nothing in the Bible promotes egalitarianism totally. The only reference would be equality of souls in that everyone can accept the gift regardless of who they are. That doesn't disavow mental or physical differences between races.


In fact it seems to point towards racial differences. Once again you're bring up points of liberals who happen to be Christians.

Huh no law…doesn't sound like slavery to me. Also there's your virtues faggot. Notice this is just one such statement in the Bible of what virtues are good. Before you get on your freaking omg "love" is in there that's liberalism.


I tied it directly to what Hitler said. If you disagree with that, again why are you even here?

Idiots i am Aryan and can trace my ancestry to King David

WE
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JEWS

das rite

Daily reminder that the people who accepted Jewish refugees and kept them safe when the peons in the neighbouring kingdom was tired of Jewish grift and blood libel, also were Christians.

They then did business with their merchant friends until the peasants got their torches out and chased them back to the protecting embrace of the Christians in the first country they left two generations earlier.

It pretty much died with Pastor Butler.

This is the genealogy[a] of Jesus the Messiah[b] the son of David, the son of Abraham:

2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,

Isaac the father of Jacob,

Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,

3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,

Perez the father of Hezron,

Hezron the father of Ram,

4 Ram the father of Amminadab,

Amminadab the father of Nahshon,

Nahshon the father of Salmon,

5 Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,

Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,

Obed the father of Jesse,

6 and Jesse the father of King David.

David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife,

7 Solomon the father of Rehoboam,

Rehoboam the father of Abijah,

Abijah the father of Asa,

8 Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,

Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,

Jehoram the father of Uzziah,

9 Uzziah the father of Jotham,

Jotham the father of Ahaz,

Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,

10 Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,

Manasseh the father of Amon,

Amon the father of Josiah,

11 and Josiah the father of Jeconiah[c] and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.

12 After the exile to Babylon:

Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,

Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,

13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,

Abihud the father of Eliakim,

Eliakim the father of Azor,

14 Azor the father of Zadok,

Zadok the father of Akim,

Akim the father of Elihud,

15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,

Eleazar the father of Matthan,

Matthan the father of Jacob,

16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

Daily reminder that you’re intl.

Actually it was Pagan rome that really gave it to the kikes and destroyed their temple.

It actually does if you cared to study it at all.

No i'm serious. Googling it gives me jack, what is it short for?

No, I’m serious. Hi, intl.

No, it was done by peasants. Peasants who were tired of court Jews in the employ of Christian Lords screwing them over through usury and harsh taxes. The church opposed pogroms and tried to save the Jews.

Romans were antisemetic idiots im aryan i descend from israel

Okay i get it. Fuck you too semite lover.

Hi, intl.

reported for intl

No, it really doesn't. At all. Because the Jewish problem is a racial problem. Something Christniggers will never accept because they deny race and believe in individualism and egalitarianism.

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Hey look one of those genealogies I specifically mentioned that kikes like to use to prove Jesus and God are Jews. That start at Adam and stops at Joseph.

Joseph was not the Father, fucking Rabbi.

Now go try and fail to prove Mary was a kikel too.

ROFL

Reported for intl

Reported for intl.

Hi intl

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Reported for intl

daily reminder you're intl

Don't be so harsh on him. He's a truly tormented soul. It's very hard when you're so indoctrinated you can't let go of your Jewish religion and at the same time understand about Jewish subversion.

You've possibly triggered him now, so prepare for a "reported for intl" spree.

OT says so, YHWH is literally a god of the Jews, and all of his characteristics point out that he is one as well. If god of NT is so different, why did they steal most content from OT instead of inventing a new religion then? Maybe because it was a PR damage control and a goy friendly bible?


I know enough about Christianity to denounce it completely, without reading every possible scripture in existence. It's mostly fillers and autistic drivel of some kikes, it doesn't offer many religious insights or explanations in the first place.

We know it wasn't Joseph. It was his neighbor, not god.

Reported for intl.

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reporting myself for intl

If he is genuine and not just some troll, yes. It's very hard to deprogram yourself when you are brainwashed since childhood.

Hey moonman, you dont spamming your reported for intl shit yet?

If there are any ethnic nationalists in here who want to discuss realistic policies to apply to a country to succeed where the Germans failed, I'd love to chime in. However I don't hold any interest in contributing to another religion D&C circle jerk.

The kike said in all seriousness.

sage

So sage the thread, you fucking faggot.

There is some slight chance he is some sort of anti-christian shill, who tries to make christians look bad by association.

But the little trickles of bible thumping he intersperses with his reporting leads me to believe he's just a very angry and confused person, living out a spiritual crisis of some sort.

just go away moon man, we know it you

We had a decent discussion going but seemed to have died already by now.

Nothing that I said was liberal. Maybe you don't understand what liberal means? Because you are an uneducated christarded amerinigger perhaps?

Of course it would be to a Christcuck, since they are incapable of understanding real spirituality.

Which is, of course, false.

Yeah, sounds like liberalism, again bolstering my thesis.

Those aren't virtues.

Not really. You falsely tied it to a statement on charity without actually understanding the meaning. Meanwhile, national socialism had tons of laws forcing people to comply to their moral standard, and they threw degenerates in concentration camps (including plenty of traitorous christians).

Why would someone shill against Christianity on Holla Forums of all places?

sage

Haha, yeah, only intl would say Jews are a racial problem, right Shlomo? We all know Jews are just a religion, and that if they only accept Rabbi Jesus then they can be made good.

sage

Nah, try again. Real Christians know that jews honestly convert in such small numbers as to be statistically irrelevant. Kill them all. To undo a jew is not sin, but charity.

daily reminder that moon man is a retarded prot christnigger from texas who gets uber triggered when you don't fellate his magic jew djinn

1. Kill all Jews
2. Show no mercy to the enemy

There are not very many of these Deus Bult types here. Maybe 4-5 tops. They need some sort of drama to stay relevant, because without it no one would talk about their shit at all. I'm pretty sure they often make these threads themselves.

It's not really important to them to actually convert people, what they want is to feel like soldiers for Jesus, martyrs for the cause. It's the sadomasochistic complex they get from the cult.

So they stir up shit.

Calm down Ezekiel, no one is threatening you, you just need to accept that your religion is wrong, and find a new, better one.

Actually YHWH is not the God of the Jews. First of all YHWH translates roughly to "I am who I am". Second Jews worship Satan, aka Ein Sof.

And that Crete quote was just the jew Saul letting slip his natural hatred for the goyim.

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Yes sweetie I know. I'm talking about how to handle a large Christian population without making the same mistakes every other society that had problems with them did.

Pretty much. Kikepedia says:

The tetragrammaton (from Greek Τετραγράμματον, meaning "[consisting of] four letters",[1][2]) is the Hebrew theonym יהוה, commonly transliterated into Latin letters as YHWH. It is one of the names of God used in the Hebrew Bible.[3][4][5] The name may be derived from a verb that means "to be", "to exist", "to cause to become", or "to come to pass".

So yeah I guess Popeye.

Every time you say YHWH instead of Yahweh I will write Yahweh down on a piece of paper and burn it.

The Bolshevik solution. Shut down the churches and send the christcucks to die in camps.

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What did the Christians ever do to you to inspire such hatred in us?

You should write down Ein Sof and burn it if you mean to hate the Jews.

Except that didn't work, and completely backfired. The Chinese tried that too, and now there are more Christians than members of the Communist Party. Direct persecution of Christianity simply drives the church underground, and sets up an underdog narrative that makes the government look like the bad guys. Furthermore, any army that is going to put nationalists in power in a western country is going to be largely Christian. Aside from taking a page out of the communist handbook, you would be crippling your own army and begging for a counter-revolution.

You would need to collect a list of all Christcucks then. It would be much easier today than in Soviet times.

Are you this deluded? Do you really think this? If a war for independence from the current system comes, Christians (and by that I mean the vast majority, not you fringe splitters,) will fight along with their marxist compatriots.

Yep. Christians will resist any effort to kill their precious Jews or expel their adopted nigger children or natural conservatives beaners. Christians are the enemy, nobody should fool themselves otherwise.

No, but it's clear that you are. It's pretty clear that you don't understand anything that is going on, and are doomed to botch any future for a nationalist government with your autism.

Christians aren't nationalists. Civic nationalists and Jew-loving patriotards, maybe.

So you think that hidden away out of sight, hundreds of thousands of nazi Christians, by every mainstream Christian standards extreme heretics, sit around in their Deus Vult command centers waiting for the time to Vult?

Sorry pal, Christians follow pic related. Not your fringe interpretation.

Please show any sign whatsoever that points to almost every Christian being marxist in everything but name. Even most of the regular Vults here won't deny this, opting for the "no true Christian" defense instead.

kek

LARPagans are the new Left.

Pagans are so few they can't really be counted as anything.

The left is the new left.

Christians are the old left.

Couldn't be more obvious.

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The Left has always been anti-Christ.

True, but the actual Christ is a very little part of the whole package of Christianity.

They have more in common than they have differences, although it appears they are not because they each follow extremes on the opposite ends of a black and white spectrum in a false dialectic.

Positive Christianity is proof you have to tear up and completely ignore the good majority of what actual Christians believe to have a pro-white religion.


I mean it's just ridiculous. The NSDAP should've just been officially secular sans Judaism (with only implicit support for the esoteric ancestor worship neopagan stuff many of the higher up NSDAP officials were into) and let it die a natural death as evidenced by post-war Europe. Instead they tried to salvage the religion in a clumsy manner to try and turn it into a stepping stone towards neopaganism and alienated the fuck out of every German who actually was a legitimate Christian. It makes it a lot harder to try and defend the Third Reich when you know you're not going to be able to actually justify this to anyone who is still a Christian, so you basically have to rely on their ignorance.

Nope, sorry. Try again.

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Christianity's "messiah" is the product of cuckoldry.

Christianity is LITERALLY a cuck religion.

im christian and im a nationalist :/

>>>/reddit/

OP, you have a religion that most of your people cling to. Your nation is undergoing a serious political and spiritual change. It only seems natural to modify or create a religion that adheres to party guidelines.


Why not? They are in power, they can do as they please
They need no permission and it also makes sense, the NSDAP fought and struggled since it's very beginnings to gain a foothold within Germany. It is only fitting to modify Christianity to mirror that struggle.

"Christ, the first Anti-Semite, an Aryan Warrior who thousands of years ago stood steadfast against the Zionists of his time"

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I think it would be horribly unfair to try and steal Jesus away from the Jews. He's pretty much the only halfway decent folk hero they have.

He went further against his cultish tribe than anyone of the bunch, subtly and gently speaking out against a few of them and even applying mild violence to the worst of the worst of their kind.

For a Jew he was a real rebel, most of them never leave the bosom of the cult enough to even think about criticizing it.

They need Jesus more than us, so we should let them keep him.

you do the same thing the Muslims do, you say they received the true word of god then turned their back on it because they are just that evil.
easy.

This is not the safe-space you're looking for. This whole 'don't make an image of God' thing reeks of semitism. Jews newer produced great art. Their intelligence is predominantly verbal, whilst ours is more visual-spatial, geometrical (and to a certain extent musical) .

Kek is the only true god.

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Doesn't exist mate.

Top Kek, bro. Best summation of the Bible I have seen. LMFAO.

Another day, another thinly veiled divide and conquer thread. Why do people keep falling for this meme?

I don't know how you can read what Jesus (and the apostles) said about the Jews and not believe He preached supersessionism (what ziocucks refer to as "replacement theology").
Seriously, read for instance the Parable of the Wicked Husbandmen in Luke 20. It cannot be more clear.
Anyone who calls themselves a "Christian" but rejects supersessionism in favor of some other dual-covenant zionist ooga booga is going against Christ and therefore not practicing Christianity, but something else.

That's true. After all, Jesus preached to the prostitutes and tax collectors because they were the ones who needed him the most.

christianity is a jewish sect.
jesus is a semite jew by genetics.

bible (matthew) itself says jesus is a descendant of king david

first followers of jesus were all jews who accepted jesus to be the messiah but he also claimed to be god.

the central core of christianity is to accept the torah to be outdated.
the updatate is the word of jesus.
christianity is literally a jewish sect.

christianity denies jews to be race.


stop right there you twat
id:fced26 - JUDE

lel butthurt kike detected, us demons will be coming for you soon enough.

No, the kikes want to shoah the Germans because they have some fucked up theory that Germans are secretly Canaanites.

Johann Andreas Eisenmenger talked about it in his book "Entdecktes Judenthum" (Judaism Unmasked) back in 1700.
They think that all Germans are the descendents of King Agag of Amalek, through the Persian vizier Haman.
The Jewish rabbi (((Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld))) refused to meet the Kaiser in 1898 because of this theory.

They believe that by wiping out the kingly bloodline by killing all Germans, they are following "G-d"'s commandments.
Of course, Germans are probably not secret Canaanites. They most likely made up the legend out of butthurt at being rightly locked in ghettos by their German hosts. They said the exact same things about the "princes of Rome" after being exiled. They have held this genocidal hatred for centuries, yet have been unable to act on it until lately.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

Go back to bed Chaim.

Someone could simply buy this and then explain.

third-reich-books.com/product/positive-christianity-in-the-third-reich/

It was made to slowly turn christcucks away from worshipping a kike and nothing more.

Archeological evidence (that Jews and their ISIS lackeys are destroying and/or hiding) proves white people existed in and around the fertile crescent, there's too much evidence in both art, writing and hieroglyphics as well as DNA.

Top fucking kek, do you know where you are? It has been proven time and again on Holla Forums that the creators of said examples above were 100% Talmudic Juden swine without a shred of doubt. Why did they infect Western Civilization? Well they can pretend to be white for starters, hiding amongst the crowd while pushing their subversive agenda, and they have a deep-seated hatred of white people (the ones that gave Christianity its traction), Jesus, and Christianity itself as is well-noted in the Talmud. It is quite funny that the rise of atheism, which was promoted by Jews too pure coincidence, also brought moral subjectivity, nihilism, hedonism and the current degenerative situation we find ourselves in, in White Western civilization just as has happened to all great White empires of the past.

Jews are the enemy of God and man.

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Ha! Kikes and their false dialectics strike anew!

Today's irony will be tomorrow's sincerity
Also, kikes are the ones who mind tricks. Why would whites want to emulate them at all?

Externalization of God is a jewish trick that makes you infinitely separated from him. Become the God that you worship.

Liberals(counter-millienials) projecting this hard

Just posting some links for those interested.

youtu.be/KCwG13K7TAo
youtu.be/MV1sVDU9E2E
youtu.be/Sz42hBg4jys
youtu.be/vat2wprB-0U
nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm
pastebin.com/9cxmXPCB
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_Christianity
web.archive.org/web/20160104235914/http://justice4germans.com/2013/08/07/debunking-the-myths-of-nazi-occultism-national-socialism-was-christian/
smoloko.com/?p=12985
harrington-sites.com/Carrier5.htm
balderexlibris.com/index.php?post/Fabricius-D-Cajus-Positive-Christianity-in-the-third-Reich
christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-1
christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-2
christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-3
christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-4
christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-5
christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-6
christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-7-final

sasuga

THIS.

It is allied propaganda.


Jesus was not a jew. No he was not an Aryan either. Jesus was a man from the tribe of Judah, which is not to say he was a jew. They followed an entirely different religion to jews, and jews today are very rarely of the tribe of Judah. To make matters worse for your argument; the pre-cursors of what became the jews (that is those who follow the traditions of the rabbis which is collected in the talmud) were the Pharisees, and Jesus is shown repeatedly fighting against these Pharisees.

As such it is TRUE that Jesus was not a jew who was fighting against (the precursors of) judaism.

Seriously Holla Forums this used to be common knowledge. 300+ posts into a thread and no one has given the correct answer. You all need to start studying again, and we most certainly need to bring back the 'redpill on x' threads because too many of you are ignorant retards these days.

Jesus was a jew and there is nothing wrong with it , As long as jew's follow christianism they will be saved.

Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all.
Colossians 3:11

Jew then was not the same as Jew today.

Not hard to understand.

Jews did not exist. Judaism came into existence AFTER Christianity.

Do not confuse jews, judaism, judah, israel and hebrews. They are all different things.

Talmudism was an oral tradition in jerusalem, jesus was a jew and was able to save all jews who were worshiping satan instead of YHWH.

Still shilling, eh, intl?

Talmud was written in 500AD.

Judaism has changed form many times, but the Judaism of today started with the Talmud.

So Jesus wasn't a Jew in today's sense.

I gave it here:
Remember to sage intl threads.

it was written but before that was passed by oral methods like all other oral traditions . Jesus knew all talmud traditions stop lying

Yeah I got the Talmud bit wrong but this post explains it

Jesus was of the tribe of Benjamin, not Judah.

Thats a bunch of lies that go against Ephesians 4 , Jesus didnt oppose the Pharisees he tried to save them because he loved them like he loves all jews.

25 Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body. 26 “In your anger do not sin”[d]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, 27 and do not give the devil a foothold. 28 Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.

29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.

The Torah was known by Jesus, as in the Pentateuch, the 5 books of Moses . The writing of the Prophets were known too, as were the songs. You know, the Old Testament.

The traditions of the Rabbis that were followed by the sect known as the Pharisees were not, or at least if known were not followed. Jesus was not a Pharisee. There were several prominent groups of (for lack of a better term) YHWH follower in those days (they were not Jews, they followed the religion of Israel; of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob). Such groups included the Saduccees who denied the concept of an afterlife, and the Pharisees who had their own traditions (the traditions of men or the rabbis) which they put level or above the teachings of Scripture. Jesus repeatedly attacked the Pharisees for this, and by reading the Gospels you will find that the Pharisees are pretty much the big bad enemy.

It is these Pharisees who would go on to form Judaism. Judaism is a religion that interprets the Old Testament through the writings (or traditions) of the Rabbis. Jews are followers of Judaism.

Jesus was not a Jew. Jesus may have been a Judean, but that does not make him a jew in the religion sense. The jews that we revile today had nothing to do with Jesus, they are the current manifestation of the Pharisees.


He calls the Pharisees a brood of vipers, a synagogue of satan, children of the devil. He tells them they will not share in the gifts of Abraham's children, that they are not the 'chosen', that they do not belong to Israel (and this is where the Christian concept of 'Israel' comes into play; that Israel is not an ethno-group or a city, or a nation; but the people of God, just as Jacob [named Israel] was a follower of God, all those who come to follow God and take Him as their own God will become a part of this nation of Israel [that is they receive the 'new name' just as Jacob did, and they belong to a new order; the order that follows God]).

You cant know what every Pharisees did or beleive , as they were oral it wasnt the same as unificated religion but a bunch of customs . Jesus was not a Pharisee but he was a jew that learned from them in the temple, He despised them worshipping satan but not their blood , You seem to imply jesus despised them because their blood. There is nothing wrong with being Jewish as long as you follow Christ.

No I'm saying that JEWS did not exist. We do in fact know what Pharisees believed, we do in fact know that they codexed they traditions in the talmud, and we know that modern jews say they come from the Pharisaical line.

These things are not entirely hidden, they just need a little bit of digging. The concept of 'Judaeo-Christian' is non-existent. Pharisees were not the only kind of 'Israelite' to exist at the time of Jesus. And Jesus opposed the Pharisees regularly and repeatedly.

He did of course want to save them, but by separating the children of Abraham he made it clear that the children of 'Israel' were only a part of that group because they followed God, not because of their bloodline. Jesus did want to convert the Pharisees, but he in no way was as pharisee, and he did not agree with them. The pharisees were the enemy.

Jews today are what the pharisees became. Jews did not exist then. The word jew is sometimes used instead of Judean, but this is bad because the two words denote entirely different things.

Water under the bridge. Luke 23:34

The Table Talks were mistranslated twice, and many quotes in the Table Talks were very contradictory to everything the NSDAP stood for.

As a Christian i agree , we are all brothers under the light of Christ,

In Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.
Ephesians 2:13-22

Your heart is so darkened that despite the fact that Christ taught us: "Love your neighbor as yourself.", it is meaningless to you though it is very simple and also one of two commandments on which depend all the Law and the Prophets.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4
You are not a Christian; you have not yet seen the light.

WTF are you talking about? Pharisees are not a tribe or tribes, they were a relatively small religious group.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees

You cannot be a jew and a Christian. If you believe you can then it is YOU who are not a Christian. Jesus taught that we should try to save the pharisees and all people of all the world. This means we seek to make jews stop being jews, and become Christians.

Learn your scriptures brother, you are likely deluded by the lives of jewish televangelists or of the jew-corrupted papacy. The children of the devil have their tentacles in many things that initially appear good; beware!

It is through Christ we are saved, and through Christ alone. No followed of any other god will be saved, nor any who deny the divinity of Jesus. The jews deny the divinity of Jesus, as do mormons, jehovah's witnesses and a host of other heretics.

Yes. The Pharisees were a group who followed the traditions of men, or their learned men (the rabbis). Judaism is a religion that interprets the Scriptures (the Old Testament to us Christians) by using the Talmud (the collection of the writings and traditions of the Rabbis). It is the Talmud, and the traditions contained theirin before it was codified that make 'Jews' abhorrent. It is from there that they find their concept of being above us 'goyim', where they consider us cattle, where they justify murder, usury, deceit and manipulation. It is through that text and the ideas of the rabbis before that allowed them to reinterpret Jacob's encounter with God (where he is forced to see his sins, his deceit, cowardice, manipulative ways; and renounces that evil becoming a new man, named by God as Israel) into a story where Jacob overpowers God and makes God bless him, and glorifies in that fact that he is so 'smart', cunning, deceitful and manipulative.

Then neither was anyone in the Old Testament. Oh, and you just contradicted the oft-repeated statement by Holla Forums Christians that Jesus was the greatest enemy of the Jews, since according to you Judaism didn't even exist until the Talmud.

You find that in the Old Testament as well.


Isaiah 60:16

Any division between members of the true Church of Christ on the lines of race is heresy, not because sjws says it's mean and hurts liberals feefees, but because it's heresy and a divison of the church; it's a dogmatic issue on the unity of the church Christ said would not be divided. Also by turning off people of another color or ethnic to Christ and his true church you have mortally sinned by keeping redemption away from someone.

Yes no one in the Old Testament was a Jew.

The Pharisees who appear in the New Testament (and according to their own texts existed at the time of Moses, where according to them whilst Moses was getting the 10 commandments; God came to them at the bottom of the mountain and told that ACTUALLY the real revelation was here and gives them the beginning of the heresies that would become pharisaical and much later become judaism). It is these Pharisees, who were the precursors to Jews (which Jews admit) who Jesus was opposed to.

So you are okay with ethnic-jews rejecting the talmud and becoming christians?

Jew is a not a race you buffoon.

Learn the difference between: jew, judean, judah, judaism, hebrew and israelite. They do not mean the same thing. A Judean is not a Jew. Judea denotes a geographical area. Judah is one of the tribes of Israel. Jesus is from the tribe of Judah, he is not a jew.

Jews did not exist until after Christianity. Jews are a religious group, followers of Judaism. The Pharisees were the pre-cursors to the Jews, to the religion of Judaism. Jesus opposed the pharisees.

Jews can still be saved if they stop being jews and become Christians. Christians are supposed to try to save all people, INCLUDING jews. Jews are not saved. Only Christians are saved.

Im not saying that jew is a race but an ethnic, im talkin about families who followed the talmud but had seen the light of christ trough evangelization and convertion.

That's because the jews seem to have influenced Christianity and rewritten certain parts to make the jews the chosen people. Didn't Christianity taught in the old days that the Jews killed Jesus, because they demanded to the Romans to kill him? Because Jesus said to pay their taxes.

Texe Marrs is a good example of Christianity without the jew.

texemarrs.com/062005/who_are_gods_chosen_article.htm

Jew is not an ethnicity, despite the fact that many jews want it to be because they can use that as a weapon against Christians who are poorly educated in scripture.

People of ALL ethnicities can be saved as far as I am aware, including whatever ethnicity a jew might be. They must stop following their evil religion and become Christians to be saved though.

Okay so you are not against any of the people of israel because of their blood, you just want to converting them and make them follow christ

What are your thoughts on Kinism?

As many as half of all American Jews could be described as atheist and/or agnostic, so defining them solely as a religious group really has little to do with Jews as we describe them.

George Soros, for example, is an atheist. Are you going to say he is not a Jew?

Stop acting like a fucking mudslime, you cucks.

Judaism was always somewhat atheistic. You know what these 'traditions' of their rabbis are, right?

You ever seen wires between buildings and lamp-posts high in the air in city centres? These wires allow jews to do work on the sabbath. If a woman is on her period (and thus is forbidden from sexual encounters), she need only cut a hole in a sheet and allow the man to stick his dick through it, and then all is kay.

Judaism is half hatred against the rest of humanity, and half made up excuses or attempts to find loop-holes to get around the laws of Scriptures (usually by means of even more draconian and invasive 'rules' that make absolutely no sense).

A jew is simply a follower of the talmud. Soros follows the talmud. A lecherous, slimy, usurous, manipulative, deceitful cretin. Other jews also exhibit these traits because of the talmud, whether they believe God exists or not is largely irrelevant.

So as long as the jews do what you say and stop being mean they can keep all their influence on the unitated states , instituations , government position and keep helping our greatest ally?

You are such a good goy i mean guy , i bet Benjamin Netanyahu will love to hear thats all you want.

Jews dont give a shit about their religion , they only care about power , they have enough power that they would actually do what you said as long as they could keep their shekels. only you buffons believe in hell and stupid things like afterlife.

Except Christians worship someone whose original name was Yeshua, today translated to Jesus.
By the way, Yeshua refused to profess his teaching to non-jews.

No, jews are our enemy. I was explaining the theology behind it.

I know Holla Forums disagrees with me on the front of trying to save those of them which will listen, and it makes sense considering the fact that they deal so frequently in deceit and manipulation; but God's compassion extends to all who are repentant (we do not show mercy to those who do not repent), and so long as we stay true to Him they shall not corrupt or deceive us. True Christians still exist, and true Christians have a duty to preach the good news of Jesus Christ.

That does not mean I think they should be spared for their treason, for their crimes against my people, it does not mean I would not purge them from my nation, it does not mean that I think they should be allowed to exist. Jews will always be the enemy to Christians and we must never accept them. They can be saved though; as can all men. When not on a war-footing we should seek to show them the glory of God and let them find the Truth, let them repent of their crimes and let them find salvation in Christ; just as we have.

Thanks you are a friend of us who preache judeo-christian values in this board. We can be friend and save them. there is many good jews that wil llisten to us and want to help us to evangelize all atheist and pagans . so we can all live together in peace.

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Sod off. There is no 'judeo-christian'. Christianity is distinct from judaism and shall not tolerate it. The two are vastly different ideologies, to equate them with one-another is foolishness, ignorance or deception.

Holla Forums is a Christian board.

Thats just a technicism, you are a true friend of israel please continue to do your work

Aye, cause Israel is the people who follow God. The 'land' of Israel should not exist and true Christians should not recognise it.

God destroyed it, and said not to bring it back.

As long as you dont want to harm our people that live here in Tel Aviv and the other's beautiful cities you will be considered a friend. I care about my people not the land just like the most of us in jidf

Does anyone who has been following the thread from the beginning care to summarize the state of play? Have we resolve any of these issues?

My take:

Lol no he is the Father's only begotten Son, he's not "Syrian-descended"

The sperg is strong with this one

This is true. I read a pretty exhaustive blog post on this recently; basically most tribes were in the north, the tribe of Judah was in the south, and even if originally the two halves were ethnically similar, after the Judæans were deported to Babylon by the Assyrian Empire, they became mongrelized with other Middle-Eastern elements

The Greeks described the inhabitants of Palestine/Judah in the historical period as worshippers of a God who was called Moloch by the Semites and Saturn by the Greeks. And this evidence in the historical record is confirmed abundantly by the Old Testament prophets, who complain bitterly that the tribes were (a) mixing with the aboriginal inhabitants and (b) turning to the worship of Moloch.

Probably this is about translations, not omitting canonical books.

Factcheck: there were no "jews" during the reign of Cæsar Augustus. There were Judæans, there were Samaritans, there were Galileans; there were Palestinian religious sects like the Sadducees, the Essenes, and the Pharisees. Jesus was an enemy of the Pharisees ("the Synagogue of Satan") and the Pharisees were the religious ancestors of the people who wrote the core religious scriptures of what we call "judaism" between 200 AD and 800 AD.

Hitler's mistake there was encountering an entire race of lying, scheming, conniving, swindling con artists, and believing them when they told him they were Jews. A reasonable error, mind you, considering nearly everyone who ever lived made the same mistake.
Judaism was replaced with/succeeded by Christianity. The last traces of it were removed with the Second Temple; there has not been such a thing as a Jew on Earth since 70 AD. The Jews became Christians, and were subsequently hunted down and murdered by the cult of Moloch (aka Baal/Beelzebub/Baphomet/"the golden calf"/etc.), who were known then as the Pharisees. Subsequently, they stole the identity of the Jews, and have been using it for centuries as a cover for their activities (child abuse/sacrifice, world domination, etc.).

Convinced that the Molochians were Jews, Hitler reasoned that Jesus must not have been a Jew and that the Torah/Old Testament should not be part of the Bible. However, not only does the New Testament oppose the Molochians (Jesus repeatedly denounces the Pharisees), but the Old Testament does as well (Moses has 3,000 Molochians slaughtered). The Molochians have nothing to do with the Torah; their book is the Talmud, which endorses sex with 3 to 9-year-old girls and sacrificing babies to Moloch by throwing them into furnaces.

These days, there's little difference between "Jews"/Pharisees/Molochians and Muslims. Both are Arabs, both are demon-worshippers (you can recognize demons by the child abuse; ritual sacrifice of the future for sick, hedonistic pleasure in the present), both are actively trying to destroy Western Civilization. The main difference is that the Muslims are open about their goals, while the Molochians have always been parasitic infiltrators who try to avoid notice.

You can tell a kike made this. In Christianity you're encouraged to convert. This imagemacro would only make sense to someone belonging to an elitist, matriarchal religion.

Jews were abandoned by YHWH in 160 AD.

Which is impressive.

Every week until /christian/ leaves. Deal with it.

I agree is important to save the souls of the racist of Holla Forums, we the christian of Holla Forums must open their eyes,they delude themselves into thinking that they are superior to others due to their sinful pride and belittling/dehumanizing those whom they deem inferior to them as evil and abhorrent to the eyes of the Lord.
It also doesn't matter wether they are lynching black people or not. Claiming that they are not a racist but actually a "race realist" to justify their wicked thinking is even worse because it is pure hypocrisy. they may fool others but not the Lord.
You cannot justify fornication by saying "but I'm not married" (1Cor. 6:9) and you cannot justify your hatred by saying "but I love those whom I consider my own people!" (James. 2:9).
We must Stop their mental gymnastics.
Put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation—if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good.
1 Peter 2:1-3

>>>/christian/

He who hates evil pleases the Lord, and He who loves righteousness pleases the Lord.

He that loves evil invokes God's wrath.

When speaking of humans and individuals it is right that we should seek to save them, though remember always that we are only merciful to the repentant. When speaking of creeds, cultures, ideologies, philosophies and religions; we can analyse them and determine whether they are good or evil.

It is written that those who are not with Christ are against Him. The Jew hates Jesus with a passion. The muslims, pagans and atheists deny His divinity. Such people have set themselves up against God; they are the enemy. We should of course seek to bring them to God, it is our duty to spread the good news.

But to those who do not listen we are to leave them. Mercy is only shown to the repentant. It is right that the strong protect the weak, and it is a sin to care for a stranger when your own family is in need.

I'm fairly certain you're a jew or reddit-atheist pretending that he knows the Scriptures, but if not then go back and read your Bible. You are full of error.

Wrong again.

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renegadetribune.com/the-celebrations-in-the-life-of-the-ss-family/

renegadetribune.com/adolf-hitler-did-not-die-a-christian-man/

Did NatSoc Germany try "positive" christianity? Sure, but it failed.
NatSoc Germany was Thulean in it's nature.

Everytime

For all your unsubstantiated claims that Jews hate Christianity in any other sense than that of contempt of their first wave of goy slaves, you and your hooknosed masters sure share a lot of enemies.

For anyone suffering the cultish delusion that whites have any affection for Christianity, I'll just point out how easily they were converted away from it.

It took war upon war upon war to force us to pretend we submitted to your Jewish aristocrat messiah. Centuries of murder, torture, censorship and historical revision to keep it shakily going. And when it stopped being forced on us, pretty much everyone stopped pretending.

Not a single battle was fought over keeping the Jewish god around.

There is not a single white country in the world today that is not, in name at least, a Christian country. Just because you spit on your ancestors and their faith, does not mean that white people are not for the most part Christians.

Do you really HAVE to be in every single christian thread, posting nothing but "reported for intl" 70 times?
Get a life man, jesus.

This is why people hate christians - you're all mentally ill spergs, infected with an uncurable virus.

unless jesus was a hindu he can't be Aryan

bumping for jesus

Hi. You were banned, I see. And you thought that bumping your shill thread would go unnoticed. Nice going.

Roast in hell, you fucking faggot.

WHY IS THIS THREAD ISNT LOCKED?

CHRISTIANITY IS A JEWISH SECT FROM THE MIDDLE EAST
JESUS IS A JEW BY GENETICS

JEWS ARE A RACE NOT A RELIGION

THIS IS A MANDITORY. NICE KEY LOGGER BTW

The awareness about the kinship between Indo-European peoples, religions and languages, as well as its derivation from a single common core itself has a number of elements tending to form the foundation of a unitary and binding idea of the White Race. This idea can and must contribute to make significant awareness for contemporary Europe, to the extent that the "Aryan Myth" forms part of a worldview, both traditional and revolutionary.

Against the global and subversive tide which threatens to engulf Europe and its people, the "Indo-European Idea" constitutes a reference point for survivor European energies. This "Aryan Idea 'should not simply refer to the sense of belonging to the White Race, but the conscious acceptance of the values embodied in the Indo-European Tradition in history.

The fact is that despite language differences and geographical distances, there was a spiritual unity from the Germanic Iceland to the Vedic India, a unity that leaves a strong mark on epic monuments such as the Iliad, the Mahabharata and the Nibelungelied. Inside this unity Hellas and Rome flourished, also aristocratic, qualitative and agonistic values of the classical world. The awareness of this tradition of blood and spirit and its opposition to the forms of semitic-abrahamic religiosity, infiltrated into Europe during the decline of the classical world and which today come back to emerge as a solvent forces, is vital for defining a specifically European worldview.

Christianity has never achieved such unity, and instead has generated a long-term series of divisions and sectarian fragmentation in mutual conflict due to its own dogmatic and fundamentalist nature, which only have plunged the White Race in an ethnic and spiritual crisis, besides its universal nature, which has led to the dissolution of ethnic identities.

Thus the Indo-European idea has presented to us as the key to the origin of Europe, also aspiring to be a revolutionary instrument that allows us to understand that not all elements that emerge or develop in Europe have the same value and how there are distinguished in Europe's history central and peripheral trends; European trends and anti-European trends.

Since you hate kikes so much please type this:

Jews lost their connection to Yahvee back in 160AD.

The Decad is the ALL.
The Ennead is the Nous.
The Ogdoad is the Logos.

The Father is the Decad.
The Holy Spirit is the Ennead.
The Son is the Ogdoad.

Janus - the beginning and the end - was the Roman god and personification of the Ancient Greek khaos.
Chaos is forever present at the treshold of reality.
Chaos is represented by the 8-pointed star.

We don't need any "new" form of our religion. There's nothing new under the sun. We just need to read the bibile in its fullest.

Praise.

youtube.com/watch?v=sAmpdcmDq9s

Oy fuckin vey!

Christianitys circular nature will make you schizophrenic.

There is no evolution. You're just stuck in "wait for the sky-jew to descend and fix your shit", while the jews fuck everything up. You gamble on that. The stakes are high.

Also, some gentile farmer was killed in the book of Acts for not giving up his personal property. It's basically communism. USSR removed christianity because it was the prerequisite for it, and thus, no longer needed. It had served it's purpose: weaken the nation so the jews could infiltrate it.


Then the jew gets baptized and pretends to be a christian, all while gathering intel on the goyim and tearing everything down from the inside.

Christians destroyed the pagan religion. If you were able to access it, and knew what it was all about, you'd never choose the semitic option. The problem is that we're only left with the christian version of what paganism is. Which is much the same as with WWII. The victor gets to describe the defeated.

It's amazing. Christians on here will talk about how they're "redpilled" on WWII. Religion is the same thing. You're giving the version of the victors. The original pagan religion is slandered the same way Germany was by the Allies.

it meet with the same result our attempts to cure our christcucks did. MUH godly nigger MUH jews

this was such a cringey gay post

Jews were Hebrews, Pharizees to be exact, from the southern kingdom of Israel who didn't believe that he was the Anointed One.
Jesus came from the northern kingdom of Judea. Jews cannot trace their lineage from Judea.
In Judea, there was a city called Nazareth situated in Galilee - galil goyim, district of the gentiles.

The Jews rejected their god for the last time, as they've done it times before. Now they seek dominion by Baal, who is Molech, who is Saturn,
who is Satan, Diabolos, the Deceiver and Confuser.

In death there is transcendence through the Ennead to the Decad. This is what the cross symbolizes in comparison to the T.
The "T" and also the Tiwaz rune symbolize reaching the heavens (of the multitude of gods), but the cross symbolizes going beyond it.
Make no mistakes: by praising creative chaos you're praising our Lord. Our Lord is the ancestor to our gods, our ancestors, in the Heptomad.
Going to the pagan gods is going to your parents as they're closer, but Christians go to their grandfather for counsel.
We all can become gods, but we can also become one with the One.

The multitude of gods give us respite in this world, but the One God gives us respite from this world.

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The issue itself is not necessarily D&C, although it's often exploited as such - this is a legitimate intra-community fracture point.

Matthew 21:43

King James Bible
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

no, I think he learned right, christians are right wing but the only claims they really have to right wing ideology over athiests is that they don't want buttfuckers to get married and they don't support abortion.

The belif in an omnipotent, omnicient, and omnibenevolent god has one logical conclusion:

"I have no need to improve myself, god will forgive my flaws, I have no need to seek out help when I am in danger, God will aid me in my time of need, I have no need to assist others, God will provide for them, I have no need to do anything: God in all his infinite knowlege, benevolence, and power will do everything for me, he will cater to my every whim"

The only reason why christians are even able to get up in the morning is because of their overwhelming capacity for cognitive dissonance. Their religion is inherently nihilistic; depriving of them of any reason to seek out basic necessities like food and shelter or to better themselves if it is followed to its logical conclusion. Its a religion that breeds tolerance and apathy; one of the last virtues of a dying society and their cognitive dissonance is the only thing that has allowed them to survive this far. If we are to survive the coming race war we all must convert to kekism and offer burnt offerings to our new lord and savior. Joining the KKK would also be acceptable if it weren't a massive honeypot.