Anti-Depressants destroy learning

I don't know if that would matter since jews are all insane anyway.

Funny enough, taking adderall did more for my depression than any of the depression pills. I don't take anything now.

Bump.

I take Adderall, which affects dopamine and norepinephrine. Is it the same concept or is this unique to serotonin? I do supplement l-tyrosine to offset the neural depletion.

There is no difference between being a meth addict and an adderall user in the long term.

Adderall seems fine in my experience. I personally never had any problem from it compared to antidepressants or antipsychotics. Just take regular days off to avoid tolerance (I usually skipped it on the weekends).

Adderall is taken in much smaller doses.

There's a growing body of research that suggests the dopamagenic drugs, with proper dosage, may be an effective means to treat depression. Ketamine I know it effects a lot more than just dopamine in particular has recently been found to be a very effective treatment when administered weekly or every other week.

Completely different mechanism than SSRI drugs. Tolerance and dependency is a concern, but I've personally had a far more positive experience with amphetamines than I ever had with SSRIs.

t. fag who has been perscribed atleast 5 different SSRIs throughout my life never took them for longer than a month or two because they were all terrible.

Yes but it doesn't matter in the long term.

If you take any amphetamine in any amount for several decades on a regular basis you will suffer irreversible damage of some scale. It's unavoidable.

ADHD is a jewish lie created to get money from drug sales. In reality it's just people with low willpower and can be mitigated with proper parenting.

I told my friend all of this about SSRIs. He still started an SSRI regimen anyway. Sorry Karl, I tried, you're just too dumb to listen.

I've never heard of Vybrid before. Is this a new drug? How did you end up with a prescription for that?

Effectively it's high quality speed. I took Ritalin for a number of years and not only did I feel like utter shit. I couldn't control my emotions during the 4 hour high it gave me. At times I was eurphoric and then cripplingly depressed… When I came crashing down to Earth I hit a depressive point. It got to the point where I could only live for the 4 hour high. It fucked my dopamine up and suicide was knocking at my door daily…

Thankfully, taking the Redpill gave me enough 'FUCK THIS' motivation to quit that shit foricbly, much to my Doctor's dismay. I HATE shrinks.

My results or my concentration in school were never any better because of them and the only reason I was taking them was for that…

ADHD is a bullshit condition. If anything, ADHD is a Hunter's instinct. Sitting down in a boring classroom for hours listening to some teacher drovel on about bullshit is not natural… There's a reason people like me go into practical trades…

How much were you taking? IIRC there's a fine line between 'just tolerable' and 'fucked up' ammounts.

I don't know much about adderall. I'm not sure what chemical processes it fucks with.
But what I do know, is that the brain is hyper complex. Levels of complexity that no human will ever understand. When a system is this complex, crude changes are extremely damaging.
Pumping your body with synthetic chemicals, might just be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life.

Just learn self-control and motivation. Listening to music and meditating can help this.
I wouldn't ever take any psycho-active med ever again. Anti-biotics are the only useful thing.

You would have to take a huge dosage of adderall for it to make you stay up for three days straight and experiqnce psychosis. It's true that they're very similar though, doctors even still perscribe meth sometimes, the dosage is just smaller.

Most uppers bind themselves to receptor sites that are normally bound by the chemicals that cause your brain to feel sleepy so that you temporarily can't feel sleepy. Pilots take them pretty frequently for obvious reasons. Not all drugs cause permanent changes, though sometimes you might want some. People with heavy PTSD and childhood abuse might find benefit through dosing MDMA since it causes the formation of new neuronal pathways. For people who don't want to be a new person then this might be a problem for obvious reasons.

Toom 70mg worth once (because I was a stupid idiot at a low point in time and I needed more of my meds to really feel it… Proves that it's addictive shit), I hd audio hallucinations but generally it was NOT a nice high. And if I am correct it's about 150mg which is cosidered lethal.

Yeah but when you take it more than once a week you will unless you have god-like perfect aryan genes that protect you from all harm suffer from serotonin depletion.

It fucks your brain chemistry up.

It has its uses, but I wouldn't take it for a sustained period of time. I really doubt the effects are comparable to meth addiction, though. Like with most things, there's a smart way to use it and a dumb way.

I think it was 20mg twice per day, but not 100% sure on that since it was years ago.

It's also worth throwing the following out there.

Excessive fapping also fucks with your dopamine levels. More than twice a week is way too much.

Couple this with any antidepressants/Jew drug that cucks your dopamine levels and you're effectively a walking zombie.

Full house speaks the truth.

Ah, I was taking about 15mg of ritalin twice a day… Those were some dark days. I wish never to go back on them. No matter what kike doctors want.

And I took it as an adult, never as a kid. I would not recommend it for children at all. Kids just need exercise.

70 mg of desoxyn or adderall? Either way that's pretty crazy. I was perscribed 10 mg tablets once and that was more than enough.
I'm pretty sensitive to stimulants though.

Yeah, I've known people who are perscribed large dosages daily and their mood becomes pretty much dependent on wether or not they have amphetamines in their system. Using any pretty much any drug daily is going to cause dependence.

Ritalin, which is effectively a stronger and faster acting dosage of Adderal (Adderal is often taken inesser doses to equal it out).

Should clarify, I was at one point prescribed 10mg tablets of adderall

It's an anti-depressant and an "experimental drug" meant to reduce terrible side effects. It works, but I feel numb a lot of the time, indifferent to everything. I feel a lack of creativity sometimes, even though I have a shitload of awesome story concepts.

I wouldnt say SSRI:s are absolutely harmful, they can work depending on the invidual BUT the person in question needs to be weaned off of them eventually.

I used to take SSRI's for about 2~ years and how they helped me was by making my depressed as fuck anxious autistic behavior of emotional rollercoaster more like a calm straight-line so i actually got time to think things through, interract with others while thinking calmly and doing everyday shit while being calm and all that so in the end i noticed "shit it's not so bad after all so why am i so anxious and worried about every little thing?".

But obviously i couldnt just take them forever as when you're of feels are calm and collected it also means you are of missing some important human emotions or only feel them very mildly like happiness,love,hatred, wish to protect you're of friends&family etc etc.

TLDR:i'd only recommend SSRI's for those who REALLY need to cool off their thoughts

It's pharmaceutical amphetamines, it has nothing to do with the anti-depressants of the SSRI category which is what OP is talking about. You're getting the opposite of amotivational or apathy syndrome. Unless you abuse it you should be fine.

I wouldn't take it every day though, even if it's the XR extended release version, just to be sure that if one day you forget it you won't be psychologically paralyzed by the lack of it.

Next time you see your doctor you could ask him to try Vyvanse. I prefer Vyvanse to Adderall, it feels smoother.

Good idea.

Adderall is made in a lab and is taken orally, in addition to being significantly weaker than meth.

You only say that because you don't have it. I can assure you that the way my brain works is different than that of an average person. They've done brain scans that show that our brain activity levels are different from the norm, especially in the parts of the brain involved in attention and executive function. Though I will admit that adhd is overdiagnosed and medications are handed out in completely unethical ways to children.

I agree about us just being a different evolutionary archetype as opposed to being diseased but that doesn't mean we don't still have to do all the inane bullshit that living in modern-day requires. Which is why I take the drugs.

This has been my experiance also. One the main reasons I was went to the doctor was a lack of emotion and this SSRIs just made it even worse plus they make orgasm impossible. I could see them working for people who have lots of really negative emotions though.

Furthermore

Antidepressants destroy family

I think this is the prime reason why they are being pushed so hard. I've observed this in several instances, and even have examples from my own family. My father and his brother were inseparable their whole lives, real brothers as brothers should be. A few months after my uncle accepted these drugs from his quack, he lost interest in family and retreated into a private world of drink and television.

It stands to reason really, because what these terrible pills do is to dampen emotion. And bonds between people are forged from good and bad emotions. Sure, they take the edge of the bad feelies, but the good ones go as well. Curiosity, creativity, integrity and empathy. All sorts of things are rooted in emotion. Pay close attention to someone who starts on these things, and notice how they change.

There is a reason why all these spree killers are on these drugs. Never take them, never give them to your children, always advise against them. You can't reason with most people so you have to hit them where they can imagine the impact. Tell women they will be fat (which is true,) and tell men they will be impotent (which is also true.) Every person who goes on these pills and make a habit of it are lost forever.

I can't stress how dangerous these drugs are. Better to exist in an abyss of depression and anguish than to lobotomize yourself. You stand a better chance of fixing yourself on your own. Their path leads to nothing.

Of course. But as for me, my work involves being outdoors a lot, which suits me more than an office job. But yes, there is no getting away from the inane boring shit that we all have to in life.

Well damn.

Lad. You should really try quitting it for a while, not virtue signalling here but from one user to another, the effects of increased testosterone and energy from not fapping is great!

You see that's the problem, if you keep taking them for too long that's when the risk of becoming a zombie increases. 2 years may have been OK for you but for some others the symptoms may appear at around 2 years. Or before. Or after.

It's not a long term drug. That's what people need to understand.

And the theory that supports the serotonin model of depression isn't rock solid. I mean for example it's pretty much established now that if you have a Vitamin D deficiency your risk of depression increases. Before taking a SSRI medication I would supplement with Vitamin D, Omega 3, and things like that. The times I have been depressed were all in the middle of winter in January. When I realized there was a correlation I started taking Vitamin D in October and November. Something like 3,000 IU per day with fat (yogurt).

Vitamin D costs nothing. It's $5 for a bottle that will last for a month. But who gets a Vitamin D test at the doctor's office if they have symptoms of depression? Only those who ask for it?

Technically speaking it's excessive ejaculation that's a problem. The secretion of prolaction and the decrease of dopamine occurs after ejaculation.

I used to fap almost daily or every other day and I've reduced it to around 2 times a week, usually with little or no porn. I feel significantly more intrest in actually accomplishing things and socializing, would recommend. Women can definitely tell too, it's a night and day difference in how women interact with me when I haven't fapped in 4 days or so and when I've fapped twice the day before.

Ritalin is much weaker than amphetamines as it only inhibits your brain's absorption of dopamine/norepinephrine whereas amphetamines do that and cause your brain to release them. Ritalin is to Adderall what cocaine is to methamphetamine.

In the OP it said that dopamine was also involved in curiosity not just serotonin.

I meant prolactin

You don't actually secrete prolactin unless you have sex.

Masturbation is worthless and just fucks your dopamine up.

Masturbation is bad and not fapping has benefits that's true.

But at 70 days of no fap accumulated with no interval, unless you are seriously busy with something you are always almost climbing the walls out of desperation.

Running feels better than fapping.

Oh, thanks for the correction lad.

Still. If I felt the horrible effects of what I was on. Anything worse would be unthinkable.

Not imbossible but a lot harder to achieve.
I used to have almost weekly a time where i felt like i was horny as fuck so i went to fap fap fapeti fap BUT no matter how much and how depraved by my moderate standards the material was i just couldnt cum.

Now my sexual urges are mostly 'normal' though.

Yeah, that was what actually woke me up and made me really want to get off of them. It happened sometime around after i had taken tem for 1.4years where it started to feel i couldnt have any kind of actual emotions, only some vague ones that idnt feel reel.
I sorta felt like one of those Slaanesh-followers from Warhammer-lore where i needed to try increasingly more depraved and extreme things to feel something be it good or bad but just completely dropping the pills only made me have panic attacks constantly so i had to "detox" myself slowly which was also hard as fuck to do.

And now that i've been clean from them for 3years and during these 3years also started to really pay attention to what i eat an how much i exercise i've never felt better than maybe when i was still 10y old wee-lad in my prime. Like you said, its atleast partially about vitamins and such nutritional shit as in whether or not you are of depression.

more pseudo-scientific autism

6 years taking anti depressives. on the good side, means I'm still alive. and didn't an hero. and dose not too big

how can I recover? am I lost forever?

SSRI's and similar drugs are fucking garbage. I've been around the block and that shit is straight-up worse than anything. Benzos, amphetamines, opiates, are all better options than SSRI's which should fucking tell you something about how terrible they are. Doctors will push that shit on you like you wouldn't believe. I've had doctors practically beg and even try to bargain with me to get on SSRI's even when I wasn't complaining of anxiety or depression. I've had acute opiate and benzodiazepine withdrawal and SSRI withdrawal was much worse. It also makes MDMA have no effects whatsoever. Stay away from drugs in general but especially stay away from that antidepressant jew poison.

Nice to see vindication. About 11 years ago I was put on anti-depressents while still in high school. Being a friendless introvert who spends all his time inside his head, I'm very sensitive to internal changes. I noticed that they were causing issues with my attention and memory. My only redeeming quality in life was effortless learning and a steel trap memory, and the few months I was on anti-depressents fucked that. It's like when you deprive yourself of sleep over a long period – not by staying awake all night once, but by getting multiple hours less sleep every night for weeks on end. It kills your mental performance. You try to learn things and they just slip away, you try to remember things and draw blanks.

I stopped taking them, choosing to be able to think than to be happy. I found an alternative way to end the depression for good, but I never did fully recover that steel trap memory, nor did I ever really become happy. I'm glad I had the foresight to stop before they turned me into a complete zombie.

Instead of taking them every day, start taking them every other and lower the dose slowly from there.

Also have someone who can support you.

Biggest problem from my experience seems to be that most docs probably just give you the prescription and say to take them everyday or such but offer absolutely nothing like counseling, meet-ups every other week where you talk about you're of feelings or something like i dunno… playing soccer or such shit every other week with other depressed sad-fucks to make you feel bit more confident and such as you are not alone, there are others to rely on, talk about those things etc etc.

Of course that can backfire too if it's way too coddled.

I take a SNRI
(Serotonin NON-reuptake Inhibitor)

Am I okay?

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SSRI guy here. Currently taking Lyrica, Xanax, Adderall, Lamictal and Pristiq

Most psychologists (and doctors when it comes to this) are fucking terrible at their job. Drugs can work great when they're used to facilitate active treatment. You start low and go up slowly until you're able to do the actual things you need to do to rehabituate yourself. I've known too many stories of people who got put on X drug, and other than the initial rise out of total shit, their life stayed broken indefinitely and none of their problems resolved.

well that doesnt make any sense

I was always suspicious of anti-depressants possibly causing brain damage to me as a teenager. And now I'm pretty fucking convinced.

How long will the Jew Science known as a psychology keep afloat? These kikes used to hammer a stake into your frontal lobe if you "didn't behave right".

when you're angry because of society we live in today
whenever you're sad
remember, that's just your adequate emotional response to situation at hand

Do you whack off too much without any goal in life?
Do you use drugs?
Do you have no friends or any desire to have friends?

drugs don't help, they only worsen the problems

FARMAJOOTICALZ ,PHARMAjewTACLZ DAY B bAD 4 YOU please Dont poison your brain

Its in the public water 2

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exactly.

No shit? Unless your organs will fail if you're not taking something, you should never take meds.

fuck you shill, you think it's funny trying to paint everyone who wakes up as a conspiracy quack?

you wouldn't believe the shit they put in the water. all that fluoride. guess what is a major ingredient in prozac? Guess.

start slowly you crackpot
you can't drop it instantly or you'll wanna kill yourself

wow, elemental flourine is in two compounds
it's gonna kill you instantly
Water contains flouride ions, both in nature and in municipal water supply. Generally, it is regulated, and your organs remove it without it poisoning you.
Toothpaste contains Calcium Fluoride, essentially does the same thing as ions.
Fluoxetine is the SSRI you're talking about, and it works by removing curiosity/depleting distraction, so it 'helps' if you're trying to be a normalfaggot wageslave. It tastes like shit and doesn't solve the root of the problem.

stop being a dumbfuck

Always the first post. Always.

I was on Celexa but I moved to the milder version Cipralex a couple of years ago.

The fun thing about the Citalopram family is that it inhibits orgasm so I can "edge" nearly indefinitely (until I lose interest, most of the time).

Thanks for Correcting The Record.

999 mircoshekeli have been deducted from your ProShill account due to low effort Correcting The Record. Please try harder in the future, this is your second warning and your pay grade will be lowered the next time we have to warn you.

I've had depression for years, used to take shitloads of antidepressants (plus mood stabilizers, antipsychotics, and I even had ECT) until recently when I quit cold turkey. Best decision of my life.

0/10 would not recommend any of that shit.

If you wanna get off the meds immediately be prepared to check yourself into the hospital for a couple weeks to help weather the withdrawal symptoms.

thanks shill, I'll use fluoride now.

Low doses of ketamine is actually very good for depression but no jew will ever prescribe it because it's cheap as over the counter shit and those jewish psychologists need their shekels.

I'm honestly afraid, I don't want to take Xanax, but shit, my colon doesn't want to improve.

I was on prozac for the whole of my teen years. When I went off of them cold turkey in my first year of college, I had a extremely violent fantasies for about 3 weeks about grabbing a gun and killing anyone I could find.

Once that passed, I went back to being as depressed as I was before.

This stuff is evil. Stay very far.

If you suffer from depression, read about Ayahuasca therapy.

If you're further interested in this subject, give "Lethal Psychiatry And Organized Denial" by Peter Gøtzsche a read.

Found out about the author by seeing another one of his books, this one on medication, in my local bookstore.

Praise Kek

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Have you tried cutting out grains?

What have you tried eating.

I effectively cured my IBS through diet change, I just found out that doctors have no fucking idea what you should eat if you have IBS

You know they specifically state on THE FUCKING LABEL that prozac causes extreme violence and aggression in teens, and yet those filthy kikes still prescribe it. Sad!

Trips of truth strike again, not only do these pills work to fulfill the jewish agenda, they are specifically designed to do so.
They are 100% designed to control and pacify anyone kike psychiatrists deem abnormal, I have personally witnessed these pills destroy my friends and family over things that would normally be considered decent behavior. Some kid is a little anxious or cannot sit still? They put him on the pills.
This is only reinforced by the kike-ran media they are surrounded with. At all angles the jewish media likes to present psychiatry as a legitimate, beneficial, and scientific pursuit much like they like to present themselves as "funny harmless guys in hats"
Also, in many states they can force someone to take pills if they get a diagnosis and then refuse the "treatment" therapy is designed to fail and exacerbate the consumer so they start to believe that pills are the only option left.
Once they're on the pills, getting off is nearly impossible. They create a vicious cycle of addiction that only creates volatile individuals who are more likely to commit senseless violent acts, all by design.

Back when I was still blue-pilled, I got prescribed a SSRI, but it literally didn't do shit. Its only advantage was that I stayed away from alcohol (which led to me being almost a teetotaller, I only drink once a while (socially) now which is good), because I was afraid of the side-effects.
It was like a placebo (and a quite frustrating one, so I can see how it can make things worse, other than fucking up your brain chemistry).
The thing that worked for me was forcing myself to do stuff (as cheesy as it sounds). I went cold turkey and forced myself to exercise, read more (fantasy, science-fiction novels, the cozy, comforting stuff) and start learning Japanese (not really a weeaboo, I've arbitrary chosen a task which I deemed "impossible" at the moment). I set myself goals I could measure and which took all my time, so I had no time to be unproductive and to think depressive thoughts. It was really hard at first, but once I started to notice progress, I was immediately cured, I felt like I was born again. Getting red-pilled during the process could also have some impact.
Goyim, there's nothing an Aryan like you can't do. It's all a matter of time and (mostly) motivation. Learn quantum mechanics, get a six pack, start making music - whatever you wish. JUST DO IT!

Have you had personal experience with it?

My psych actually recommended it but it wasn't covered by insurance (there's actually a clinic nearby that does it but it's like $1k/session).

They used ketamine to knock me out for the ECT; it didn't seem to help the depression (but of course the dose were different).

If you're white they'll put you on the pills if you step in their office.

If you meant to respond to me I can't answer that because I'll get gassed, fuck off FBI.

If you try to legally use ketamine you'll pay out of your ass for something they use to knock animals out. You only get results after a couple weeks of using it and you don't want to use enough to incapacitate you, start at the lowest possible dose and work up over a few months until you find the dose that helps.

Don't. I have IBS too and xanax and all other anti-anxiety meds make it worse.
you aren't going to like this, but try Cannabidiol tea, if that shit is illegal where you are try ginger concentrate and taking a hot shower after consuming it
Neither are remotely psychoactive when brewed correctly.

This, and once someone has even taken a neuroleptic even once their brain chemistry is changed for life.
Psychiatry is the number one enemy of the white race the way I see it, nothing is doing as much to make us all passive sacks of shit.

I've been looking for gluten free alternatives and limiting myself to having 1 piece of bread only.

I've been eating things like salmon, brown rice, salads, chicken breasts, really plain things.

I've also been under a lot of stress due to working night shift, and just a lot of changes in my life too.

The vomiting is new, and what really concerns me, but there's no pain upon pressing the colon so it's not crohns and most doctor's I went to clear anything serious up when they see that I had a colonoscopy like 3 years ago and it was clean. I'm only 25.

No blood in stools either.

All the people saying adderall really isn't that bad hasn't looked at the studies. Even 5mg/day of amphetamine, especially given to young children, will cause neurodegeneration, increase the likelihood of schizophrenia, heart problems, impotency, and any number of other things. You don't need to acutely poison yourself, taking it constantly will do the same thing.

Don't pretend like it's safe because the doctor gives it to you. At least with meth you KNOW it's bad for you and if you're smart you won't do it very often (lol).

I found any grain to be shit on my stomach. Once I cut out everything made with rice, wheat, corn, my IBS symptoms became much much better. I'd say you should try doing that.

I find hot-lemon water or ginger tea, plus a warm shower fixes most of my problems and calms me down (I end up taking like 50 minute showers and falling sleep while my stomach gets better)

Though it's getting to the point where the attacks flare up at work, and the bathroom is usually being cleaned, so I can't use them, and when I do use them, I end up vomiting at work, which just makes everything worse.

I think I'll just stick to salads, any alternatives you can suggest?

That might be a big issue. IBS is generally related to serotonin in the stomach if I recall, and working night shifts will fuck up your serotonin balance.

Try to get as much sunlight as you can to offset that, and a little bit of cannabis at night will help your melatonin levels (and thus improve your tryptamine cycle).

Meat is fine as long as it's decent quality but cooking it more than rare makes it hard as fuck to digest if you have IBS. Try to get grassfed or fresh meat from a butcher if you can.

Melatonin is friendly. That's why you must add melatonin with amps. Then the lightning has real thunder and can wreck havoc on the bad Samaritans

There is something about the hot shower really, even sitting in my shower with the water as hot as I can get it usually helps a lot.
I can work from home so I am massively lucky in that regard, always am near the toilet.

regular dudeweedlmao can make IBS a lot worse and enduce a condition called "cannabinoid hyper-emesis syndrome" that makes you vomit relentlessly.
Researching this is actually what turned me on to the idea of taking a shower to soothe my stomach, as people with this condition obsessively seek out hot water to the point where they burn themselves in it while barfing. It sounds like some proper horrible shit.

Any advice on lithium?

I had a manic episode recently (might be linked to cannabis withdrawal + business plan getting to my head) and they want to drug me now.

I thank my parents every single time I see them for not putting me on drugs when I was a kid. Once you realize how many people are on different shit, it'll blow your mind. It's extremely rare (at least in the US) to not be taking medication or a hard drug of some sort.

How did they even get knowledge of this "manic episode"
Better start researching laws in your state because you might be getting railroaded soon.

LOL, just no. op here
you can heal your brain by going to chiropractor your spinal cord is part of your brain .
& you can heal your hormone / neurotransmitters by cutting out ALL processed foods. I stick to natural chick cutlets, mangoes, grapefruits, peaches, and asparagus (only fry asparagus, add salt and garlic powder after)

My mom started an SSRI. I pleaded with her not to because I've heard about all the deleterious effects it has on a person's 'sharpness'. Steadily my mom has become a sedated retard. It's really shameful really, I don't even recognize her anymore. She acts like a retarded baby.

I don't know if its genetic because my grandmother is room temp IQ as well and it really makes it hard to have a relationship with them because no one can ever bring up a grievance with someone else because 'respect your elders'. Really though, my grandmother squandered millions of euros that were supposed to be passed down to me from my grandfather but no one told her anything because of that elder worship. It's nice in theory but not if your family is full of drooling retards.

op again
They are not allowed to drug you unless you have committed a crime and pose a danger to yourself or others.
Even if you you get forced into psychiatric care, you can just look for a psychiatrist who doesn't force pills as treatment. Generally however, they make you pay out of pocket. could run upwards of 800 for 6-8 months of "treatment".
I used to know of a website that linked people to anti-pill psychiatrists in their area.
Maybe i find it later. GL

If you go to a therapist / psychologist then you can be sure they're anti pill since they don't have their MD so they can't write scripts.

This is totally true.

I graduated HS as Valedictorian. As soon as I took these my grades dropped in college and I quit college for fear of dropping out.

I eventually got off the shit. I'm back in school, but I'm posting on an Image board so clearly there is still something wrong with me.

I've been thinking about getting on some anti-anxiety, anti-depression meds for a while now.

Alternatively I've been looking into adderall.

The problem is I'd really rather not, but I'm at my wit's end. I can't handle stress without sperging out and having an autistic level bitchfit. I have zero idea how to get around this purely by my own means so I'm probably going to take pills.

Story time I guess, during a trip in the Caribbean I began to practice my networking (I'm pretty silent usually as I don't enjoy small talk much) and that mixed with high BP (and using the nurse's meds there), sunburns, mosquito bites, antihistamine, drinking tap water, dehydration led me to it…

I got sleepless and delirious, felt like I was monitored or tested and put up a hell of a show. They injected me stuff back there and once I came back to the country I went to the hospital for 2 weeks and they put me on Zyprexa and lithium. When they allowed me to go out to attend to my class I just ran off and never came back and stopped all the meds too.

I only broke some stuff in the other country and didn't attack anyone nor did I ever considered suicide.

I feel pretty normal now. But got some of my friends and family pretty worried… I guess they think I'm nuts now

You are probably lacking serotonin. Dose some 5HTP (precursor to serotonin) which is like taking a hyper-mild version of an SSRI. That and you probably should get some more exercise under your belt. Get some good shoes, lace up and go for a good run. Get your miles under 8 minutes and you'll start to feel great after your runs. There's a reason it's called a 'runner's high'. Runners are all drug addicts really.

I've heard of this but thought it was a meme. I'll give it another look. Take it in the morning I assume?

Exercise is really another thing I should do. I'm by no means fat, but I'm so fucking tired all of the time that I might as well be. If that makes sense.

Go walking instead of running. You're joints will thank you when you're 50.
Running on pavement is an invention of the health Jew.
They say it's healthy, but you need special shoes to do it.
And if you do it regularly like they say, you'll need knee and hip replacements in your 50's or 60's.

In a lot of states, you don't have to commit a crime or be dangerous. Some cop just has to think you're a weirdo and bang you're fucked.
Some rite-aid guy fucked my best friend over because he has a minor tremor and spilled something, they put him in the mental ward for three days and pumped him full of all kinds of shit, he was never the same and suffocated his cat a week later "sporanos cocaine addiction" style(by being so fucked up on whatever they put him on that he sat on it and realized when he woke up)

You're already dead m8, once you're in the system you're in for life as far as I know. All your family does think you're a nutcase and will likely support your prolonged incarceration and drugging. I am surprised you're able to post right now.

try to stay cool and out of trouble until you get back under control on your own.
if they put you on something it will most likely exacerbate and prolong your issues.

If you can't get up and go run 3 miles in under 24 minutes then you're fat. There's skinny fat and fat fat, remember that. Skinny fats have a lot of the same health issues as fat people minus the gravity ones like knee and back problems.

I took 5HTP in the short term (when I played around with drugs) and it worked wonders. I want to start dosing again myself, but I haven't had the opportunity to pick some up. I'll probably get some off Amazon since its OTC.

Who said you are limited to running on pavement? The problems with knees are usually that people get bursitis or problems with weak patellar musculature because they never went for a run in many many years. I have pretty good shoes, the Kinvaras, that I would recommend to anyone. If you don't know how to midfoot strike, then I would suggest reading up on it. A lot of the problems I used to get from running heel-toe striking (like shin splints) disapppeared when I got better at midfoot. You might have swallowed a few disinfo pills somewhere.

I went for an hour long walk earlier in a place with a few hills.

I think my main issue is that I fatigue too easily. Which leads me to sit on my ass for the rest of the day. Energy is the problem.

You're not in for life. ignore other user.
But if you were court ordered to take those meds, and you ran away and stopped taking them, there's going to be an arrest warrant for you, and you will be thrown in a psych ward. Maybe for a year or more. That was stupid mate.
Once you are in the system, you play ball until you are out. Doing otherwise is very, very fucking stupid.

I'll show them… Just by going back to normal life, I was lucky to be unemployed back then so it didn't turn out as bad as it could have I guess.

I've been a couple of months off meds and I feel alright.

No I went to the hospital by myself here so no court order.

Thanks for the support anyway.

Running needs to become a habit that only gets broken on rare circumstances. Scott Adams has a really interesting system regarding energy. He says that he goes to the gym every day. Even if he doesn't work out, he at least walks through the front door and then walks out so that he can't feel bad about not going at all.

Do the same with running. Even if you're tired, go out at roundabouts the same time everyday while controlling your input (food) and eventually you will have the energy for that activity. Your body is just a clump of cells that responds to stimuli. If you keep a steady schedule, then your body will respond in kind. I have a GPS watch that actually tells me how many steps I ran, tracks my pace and distance etc. Annoyingly it even tells me when I've been too long a couch potato. That part is pretty annoying but it's nice if you're trying to get back in great shape.

The next step you could do is to look at your inputs and just toss everything that you shouldn't be eating. If you want a simple breakfast, try eating tamago gohan. It's a clutch breakfast I enjoy pretty regularly. That and a sweet potato (run under a tap, nuke for 6-9 minutes depending on size) make up 90% of my breakfasts. I also juice with a juicer (4 carrots, .5 lemon, 1 cucumber, 1in ginger, 1 apple) and I find that I get nutrients that keep me on point. It's also delicious. A little health secret is that juicing vegetables gives you the same health benefits as eating it minus the fiber.

I was prescribed lithium for my bipolar. It made things a lot worse, mostly because it would make me over heat even at normal temperatures. Incidentally, it did help me realize how important temperature regulation is to mood.

Stay frosty, friends.

ok, that's good to hear.
Then just eat something along the lines of what I recommended, and start running and lifting like the other guy said. that will normalize your hormones. you will feel right as rain.

Lithium works by destroying the function of certain parts of the brain to make you feel "better". But really you just feel "better" because you can't feel anything.

Thanks

I've been doing keto pretty much most of the time since 2012. Then I came across Ray Pete's recommendations to lower stress. I think it helped. I'll avoid processed food for sure

Sounds awful

Thanks for enlightening us, Shlomo. You truly are our greatest ally.

Anti psychotics like seroquel and such are the worst of all though. Literally works by inhibiting your dopamine. It should be used only in the most egregious cases of psychotic behavior but it's used so liberally. I believe there were studies done showing that it actually shrinks the grey matter of your brain, but after googling it seems this might be contentious. Wouldn't be surprising if it were true, though.

That part is actually kind of true.

Fluoride doesn't poison you, it passes through your liver and endocrine system destroying the cells of your body as it is excreted from your body. It doesn't poison you it just destroys healthy cells.

…What do you think poison is? Also I thought fluoride stayed in the bones.

It also causes skeletal fluorosis, which even the faggots pushing fluoridated water cannot deny. The argument that fluoridated water is good for you because it helps your teeth is completely fucking retarded, since most of the fluoride content in water is absorbed through the skin and not through drinking it.

Fluoride is a poison. user is an idiot.
Fluoride gets stored in your pineal gland maybe pituitary? It's often regarded as a blocker to higher level thought and spirituality.

It causes calcium to get stored in the pineal gland.

Fluoride kills you but it isn't a 'poison' in the definitive sense, it's just something that destroys your cells and kills you.

Psychiatric medication now-a-days when treating "adhd" in children, or various forms of depression end up coming with so many side effects that leave said child a lifeless husk of a zombie. And with those side-effects, rather than taking the kid or person off of those medications, the prescribe more meds to "counteract" those side effects which lead to more side effects.

Before you know it, those people are taking cereal bowl's worth of medication just to go through life. And that isn't even counting the fluctuation of doses as the body grows accustomed to the medication it receives (which when coming off of a medication, leaves a person more fucked up than when they originally went on).

Seriously, the pharmaceutical companies married with psychiatric doctors that work together run a "legal" drug ring that has crippled the abilities of youth and others to really get up off the ground and make a start for themselves.

Is anyone else here on Venlafaxine/Effexor? I went on it two years ago in an attempt at getting my shit together but alas, I'm still a fucking NEET. It worked for a while at the beginning of the treatment regiment–I felt stable, albeit emotionally blank and distant–but now I just don't know anymore. Maybe this is the kick that I need to finally get off it and start addressing my problems properly.

Lead is far worse than any light aqueous salt, Lead in your body has a half-life of a few decades. And funny enough the now they are putting chloramine into the water supply, chloramine reacts with lead pipes creating huge amounts of aqueous lead salts. Only distilling can take out aqueous lead. Adults get all the flouride they need from seafood, tea and meats, which is 1mg per liter (1ppm). By the way at 8ppm flouride will depress growth and induce degeneration of major body systems. 50ppm is a fatal dosage.

You don't get your shit back together by going on medication. You get your shit back together by going out and doing shit. What is your end-goal in this case and what is your current position?

SSRIs are great if youre fucked hardcore with depression, and older than 24. Younger than that and it fucks with whats left of your brains development

anecdotal evidence from me etc etc.

You are better off with sports/workout, a purpose and determination.
I think it was Schopenhauer who told me to get my ass up for 2 hours a day and it spiraled upwards from there.

t. someone who was on SSRI's for 8 years and neuroleptics for 2 years before

Now I'm wondering if bipolar disorder is really a thing or just a way to put a label and shame us or something.

I mean I had a manic episode but basically it was me getting too excited over stuff and seeing too much into things. Like giving too much importance to coincidences.

kek

Frosty and stoic!

The DSM is jewish bullshit, mental disorders are all made up labels. Depending on genes, diet, environment, and upbringing, human intelligence can vary on a spectrum from OCD type behavior to ADHD type behavior. Most people are in the middle being averagely intelligent for their race. People who are more intelligent than average tend to sway towards OCD type behavior and people who are less intelligent than average tend to sway towards ADHD type behavior, but the opposite can be true. All psychology practiced in modern times is jewish, psychology is jewish shlock designed to garner shekels and enslave goyim.

Bipolar disorder is very much fake or at the very least, not a permanent condition but rather a sign you are doing something seriously wrong with either your health or your life as a whole.

I took Prozac and Ritalin for nearly a decade as a child, never questioning my mother - and can I blame her? She only wanted the best for me, a child who daydreamed and doodled too much in class and had trouble making friends.

I feel different: down, dumber, uninterested, unmotivated. I've always felt that it was partially because of these pills but never said so.

Is there anything I or others can do to counter the damage done?

I stopped booze and weed ever since. I've read some of the modern strains of hybrid weed is unstable and could trigger those kind of episodes.

If people haven't figured it out by now let them burn holes in their brain.

I had a roommate who had schizophrenic tendencies in his genes and he would go into what I thought were psychotic/schizophfrenic states sometimes when he got very high on marijuana. I would suggest staying away unless you have an iron hold over your own psyche.

The thing about modern weed is it has been bred for high levels of THC.

THC causes THC Toxicity if consumed without the various cannnabinoids found naturally in weed at the correct ratios. Modern weed can case psychosis and other things if consumed regularly.

The safest thing is to use heirloom varieties pre-cultivation. Also remember it will fuck your shit up if you're younger than 20-25.

You can try to mitigate it but I'm not sure if you can reverse it. Prozac fundamentally changes your brain structures and chemistry when used before your brain is done growing.

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Like I said, I'm a runner so smoking weed occasionally feels very natural as opposed to drinking alcohol. Running actually releases the endocannabinoid anandamide which is released endogenously so that you will calm down naturally. Weed works in a very similar manner so in essence it feels like I just went on a good run for me. I won't be conceited and say I'm smarter than others, but I have an iron hold over my psyche when it comes to these things.

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everyone but me gotta learn

I wonder (((who))) did that

Maybe you're a friendless introvert because you can't into nuance and think that everything fits into neat little dichotomies.

Is the damage irreversible? I was on SSRIs since I was 13 til I was 19 when I decided to flush them down the toilet and tell my therapist to fuck off because it wasn't helping me.
Now I'm 23 and I have felt dead inside for the past 2 years.

Truth is no one really knows. It's known that SSRIs change neuronal energy pathways so it's likely you've just gone in a direction you can't return from, but that doesn't mean you can't find a mental place that isn't quite so AIDS.

How is your life? Facing hardships has a way of bringing you down and making you feel as if its insurmountable.

Forgot to add, I had been on ADHD medication til I was 9-10 too btw.

Saying that it's just been bred for high THC is misinformation user. There's a dozen other cannabanoid compounds inside the plant, and they interact with eachother in what's called the entourage effect. THC plus all the different cannabanoids is what helps, not the THC itself.

It counts for absolutley fuck all user, but I firmly believe the body is magnificent enough to repair itself from significant damage. I'm not even one of those 'believe it into reality' retards - I just think the body is a very resilient and powerful thing. You'll be fine.

The point the weed we find today in the streets have been genetically engineered.

It's difficult to know what you get.

Any parent who puts or has ever put a child on drugs should be summarily executed.

That is child abuse, there is no denial or explanation that can make it less than a crime worthy of death, that shit is as bad as pedophilia.

It's selective breeding m80. No mucht different from how the corn niggers used to have tiny little heads of maize, until we brought in fat ass corn. Obviously weed isn't for everybody, and I don't think anything psychoactive is good for people who already have a few screws loose, but if you don't, you don't have much to worry about except getting hungry and laughing.

Are you implying long term use of marijuana doesn't cause THC Toxicity which of its many symptoms can include psychosis?

I think you're thinking of Cannabis Hypermesis Syndrome. That only occurs to people who've been smoking ridiculous amounts for years. You can also cure it by not fucking smoking. Takes a modicum of willpower.

Can confirm. And I'm even one of those 'believe it into reality' retards, because it fucking works. The placebo effect is extremely well documented, but little understood, and the medical community refuses to use it because of (((???))).

Many will be amazed to realize that the old faith based systems were actually better for your health than modern poison based medicine. Most won't believe it.

But the power of belief can really fix anything that is wrong with you. With anyone. Just do it by yourself, and not in some religion who wants to attach itself to the process to gain some sort of hold on you.

You can call it 'visualization' without sounding like a guy who just bought 'The Secret'.

"But user 500 years ago it was the dark ages and everyone lived in mudhuts and only lived 30 years and were all completely uneducated and illiterate and worked all day. I'm so thankful I live in modern society where people live 100 years and we have all of the wonders of Modern Medicine. Just think about how horrible it was back then without the vast culture and diversity of the modern era, now we can talk and now people from all sorts of backgrounds I hate being white" - average normie

Can you really blame working class parents when you have over a dozen teachers telling them their kid gets too distracted in class (even though I didn't have bad grades) and having the principal request them to send me to a (((therapist))) to prescribe me whatever chemical to shut me down in class so I don't distract the other kids. If anything it's an education system and mental health system issue (it is, we've been over it).

blogpost incoming
My life consists on going to school one day a week because they don't have any more hours, otherwise I'd go the full week. Haven't been able to get a job since I moved in to this city last year so I pretty much live off loans from Bank of Mom and Dad which makes me feel like a leech. Currently waiting for the weather to improve so I can start jogging, or until I find a source of income so I can hit the gym, take up a martial art and music classes, maybe drawing too. I have few friends and I don't feel very connected to them. My closest friends are online but they come and go (maybe close online friend is a bit of an oxymoron).

Something that destroys your cells and kills you is de facto poison. What do you think a poison is user? What sort of jewish semantics is your mind twisted up in?

I think there's a little bit to it, but it's so grossly over exaggerated purely for profit and to poison us (yes poison us user I quoted before).

Smoking weed is what helped the most for me. It helps the depression but doesn't get me manic. One of the last drugs I tried taking for bipolar was lamictal, an anti seizure medication. It started to give me seizures, which cannabis would prevent.

Not everyone reacts the same way but it's helped me.

It's not so much the level of THC as it is the proper ratio of cannabinoids. CBD is antipsychotic and balances out that aspect of THC.

I find outdoors to be better than indoors in this regard.

Effexor was just plain bizarre and nasty IMO. I don't know who it works for but they must have fucked up brain chemistry. Shit is crazy

Anybody take SAM-e and have experiences share? I have had depression for decades and frankly I think there's no good solution, was going to try SAM-e though. It's sold as a supplement and is quite expensive.

Exercise works if you can actually stick with it permanently

Advice bomb coming:

What are you studying? Are you just going for a degree? It's likely you could get an IT job just by grabbing the A+ and then starting a decent paying job like that. You can then take your IT career elsewhere. Honestly, class learning is the bare fucking minimum. If you're doing CS for example, you shouldn't be waiting for classes to put your hands on the keyboard to do your own side projects.

What kind of weather isn't letting you run? I've run in tropical storms and hurricanes so it's hard to imagine anything short of a blizzard or whiteout.

Does your school not offer jobs? I did work study at uni.

Whoa nigga, take it slow. Making too many plans means nothing will ever get done.

Meetup.com has some pretty cool groups. Look to join a running enthusiast group, they probably have one for all skill levels. Do more than one thing at one time. Online friends are cool, I have a group of people I've never met yet have been my best friends for 11 years now. I met them on WoW.

Either they respond with that or they get very angry/sensitive since they have been conditioned that they have to be dependent on the mental poison. The drug industry is disgusting.

Should I get off of Resperidone? I use it for extreme, """""border-line psychotic""""" temper tantrums and periods of extreme internal anger.

I don't take them anymore, but I find it suspiciously easy to have emotions numbed down when in human relationships.

Well I still have them, but feels definitely numbed. Not sure if that's sad or not, since at least on bad moments I can avoid a degree emotional pain.

These kinds of people are beyond help.

They follow a "dogma of science", they believe the word of jewish "scientists" is god and blindly believe anything handed to them. Sad!

The placebo effect works because the brain makes right chemicals in the correct dosages to heal you when you vividly imagine that something is good for you. Your body is essentially a pharmacy.

What I find incredibly interesting is that my curiosity went through the fucking roof after getting off of these. Like there was a massive rebound effect. It's part of what led me down the ideological rabbit hole towards ethno-nationalism, anti-degeneracy and the jewish question. As well as other unrelated topics, my mind has become a information sponge, I know a little about everything. Where as when I was on ssri's I basically stopped developing.

There are even more issues with them than op included. I have read that they interact with the hormonal system which can stunt growth. The other thing is that they change your sleep cycles and reduce dreaming. I feel as though my development was halted during the time I was on them. Not only that but they didn't improve my anxiety AT ALL.

Similiar to you.

Wellbutrin is kind of interesting, if you wash the coating off and crush then insufflate it, it has an effect very much like cocaine. Actually, it's stronger than some shit cocaine. Not that I recommend doing this

We don’t understand the mind.

Most diagnoses of depression and their subsequent treatment are as discussed ITT total horseshit and 100% medical neglect.

There ARE however it would seem genuine faults that can occur in the brain and if you have what would be classed as schizophrenic type episodes then you should NOT ditch your meds if they control your anger.

There may be alternate treatments and your doctor is very unlikely to suggest anything that his drug rep/ computer doesn’t prompt him to.

Do some research, there may be people working on alternate treatment methods looking for test subjects but don’t go flushing your meds just yet.

t. seen a few people who similar diagnosis do the same and it hasn’t ended well.

Jack? Is that you?

This experience has made you better people. Don't discredit the bullshit you had to go through in your life to get you to this point. You're better off having gone through it so continue to follow through. Not everyone would have the same outcome as you but you've ended up where you are and that's a good place to be.

Go forth and conquer.

thank you user

you are very friendly and i hope life treats you well

Thanks for encouragement user. Through Resilliance we shall prevail

It doesn't take a genius to figure the Pharmaceutical Jews out.

1). Exercise and Run. every other day. No exceptions
2). Eat fruits, meats, and vegetables. Nothing else. Not even cerial. Cook your own food. No beef.
3). Go to a chiropractor. Find a guy who knows what he's doing / is popular. Your spinal health controls the health of all of your organs.

Thanks for the gondola ;D Sincerely, OP

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I'm on wellbutrin which is a norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor (NDRI), not an SSRI. Am I safe, user?

I'm studying sound recording and post-production. It's not really college or uni, formally, more like training. I could go for an internship next year but it'd be unrealistic to expect to be paid for it with my current level of knowledge and experience, in this field. In the meantime I could freelance for shit like private parties, speeches, small concerts.

I'm in the southern hemisphere, in a subtropical region, winter is finishing and the past two months have been a fucking roller coaster of weeks of >18ºC with weeks of

nice one, Shekelgoldbergenstein

have a wallpaper

It has a very small chance of causing seizures. That's all I remember about it.

Weed today is pure poison. I almost started a large indoor Op. I bought almost everything, still got it sitting around.
The weed that is sold today, is grown with extremely toxic chemicals designed to increase the bud yield. Smoking todays weed is the dumbest thing ever.

& yea, I used to be one of those, smoke YUGE amounts of weed 2-3 times a day. & your a fucking pussy if you can't clear the bowl in 1 hit.
Smoking weed is literally the niggest thing you can do. Only niggers and liberals do it, you fucking degenerates.

And you call others degenerates.

Pretty much no. :D
Try going off of it for a few weeks, and in place of that, do these steps without hesitation.
No being a libshit lazy nigger about this. You must do these things if you go off the drug.

1). Exercise and Run. every other day. No exceptions
2). Eat fruits, meats, and vegetables. Nothing else. Not even cerial. Cook your own food. No beef.
3). Go to a chiropractor. Find a guy who knows what he's doing / is popular. Your spinal health controls the health of all of your organs.

Fucking idiots.

I do feel sorry for underage b& being forced to take these though.

I used to be a Liberal douche.. :'''(

That's hilarious, because I am already doing all of these things, except the no beef bit.

What's wrong with beef?
Have a retro gondola.

Were you doing those things before you went on the meds?
Have you tried going off the meds? How long have you been on them? If you go off the meds, it make take 2 weeks to normalize.

When I got put on zoloft, I noticed it made me feel apathetic and disconnected. I became weird and unfunny. I quit it in a week.

Depression comes from being a degenerate, living in a degenerate world, OR feeling like a slave with no idea what's going on.

If you go off it, and you are living an SS lifestyle, but the "living in a degenerate world" thing is too much for you. Just go back on it a month later.
Have a Gondola

Thank you for Correcting The Record.

I love jewish medicine now I am a good goy!

That is a great gondola, friend.

Bullshit

Poultry is cancer, pork is cancer, non fresh fish is cancer!

Beef, fresh caught ocean fish, and fresh wild game are the only good meats.

Ideally you should eat meat within 12 hours of slaughter and cook it as little as possible. I only eat meat raw but some people don't like the taste of fresh bloody organs and flesh, they're missing out it is delicious.

Yes … because encouraging people to NOT take medical advice from fat internet neckbeards and basement dwellers who have never set foot in a college is somehow a bad thing.

Do whatever you want, kid, but pay very close attention to when they tell you to mix bleach and ammonia to make beautiful crystals. Breathe deep.

have a slightly different retro gondola

Go back to reddit shitposter.

You know they get kickbacks for meeting prescription quotas now, right? No I'm sorry, you went to college to get an associates of art appreciation so your knowledge lords over me and my puny graduate degree.

I believe you are on the wrong board sir.

I'll admit, it's a meme meat, but its still good

And just for that, pic related

i'm not sure if i'm glad i read this or not, i'm not ready to get rid of my anti-d's. god damnit. i'm 23, do i still have time yet?

damn user I hope you get better, that sounds scary tbh.

see:

Wait until your life isn't chaotic. Find a period with a solid month of stability., then think about this

its probably the stress of the job lad, my friend had this issue when he worked at a call center. try to find a different job if you can, or go NEET for health reasons

Don't be so down in the dumps user

i was a 4chan fag Holla Forums fag until right now, i feel like i'm at home now.
thanks for your input, man, definitely gonna screencap and come back to this in a month or two.

I have hypomania and basically am continuously manic from the effect and so I would suggest using saunas and essential oils to calm yourself and reading philosophy to contextualize your pain and suffering so it doesn't make you a victim

When I had TMJ (lockjaw), I would wake up in the morning clenching my teeth so hard, I felt like I was going to pop a tooth. It legit scared me.
I spent weeks and weeks, googling search terms, reading articles and research papers, finding new search terms, and going at it again.

My doctor [dr (((klein)))] kept trying to push muscle relaxants on me, and i told him to fuck off.

Eventually I learned that muscle relaxation is caused by the neurotransmitter, magnesium. I also learned that 50% of the population suffers from magnesium deficiency. So I began taking Magnesium oxide and pure magnesium powder. Within 2 weeks my jaw was completely loose. & its been that way ever since (5 yrs later).
warning magnesium powder will eat through almost anything, including teeth. Don't put reacting magnesium powder in your mouth

Point is, I used science and the internet to solve my muscle relaxation problems. IDK what causes IBM, but maybe this will fix it, considering they are prescribing relaxants
sincerely, ohpee

They do. I had a depressed moment in the past, and my friends and family got me on anti-depressants. I was on them for one month before I slit my wrists.

I'm not a doctor, but I know that when I was on that junk I felt literally nothing. I could not cry, I could not laugh. It was like I wasn't a person.

It has been a decade since I been off that junk, and I live in Japan just to be away from my caring friends and family. I don't know what to tell people. I think some may benefit from it, but I also think some people get put on that stuff and don't need to be on it.

I just want to reiterate that I felt nothing.

Shitskin confirmed

Raw meat nourishes the body completely and gives full nutrients. There is no risk of disease from fresh raw meat.

Who is /Valium/ and /Topamax/ here?

Is there a pill that can do the opposite for me?

I'm feeling nothing while sober.

But if you were actually feeling nothing you wouldn't care.

I take Zoloft and I'm not really noticing any major negative effects. It stopped my rumination and panic attacks, but it didn't change my personality or my fundamental beliefs.

I'm not experiencing any loss of curiosity,if anything I'm more curious now. But that's more to do with the fact that I'm getting older, not with the medication.

Of course, if my doctor tries to put me on anything stronger than Zoloft, I'll tell him to get gassed.

user

Bleach is 70% water, but water is not bleach.

sodium chloride is not poison but sodium and chloride are

Exactly.

Pic related

Tell yourself whatever you gotta mate.

I do remember reading about a study on autism being more frequent on kids whose moms used anti depressants during pregnancy

lemme see if i can find it

Anti-depressants have massively different effects on different people. For me they did wonders. But I've seen other people take the same medication and go totally off the rails.

The problem with these medications isn't that they're always chaotic evil. The problem is they're massively over-prescribed and marketed/sold in a downright predatory way.

There are people who genuinely need these pills, and there are people who most certainly do not.

here

bmj.com/content/346/bmj.f2059.short

I always wanted to, but never had the energy or focus. I took wellbutrin for 3 things, depression, add, and alcohol addiction. right now, I'm no longer depressed, my add is less of an issue, but is more drastic when it kicks in,( i.e. I've gone from being a slob to somewhat of a neat freak, but now when I'm distracted and trying to focus on things i'm not interested in, it's kind of horrifying, I was reading a book on databases the other day while there were people talking in class, and I had to try extra hard to make the letters on the page turn into words, and I got through 9 pages in about an hour - while using white noise headphones as an aid, never had this level of a focus issue before, as usually my problem was hyperfocus, but I figured this might be due to my add getting worse with age - I never took meds for it before either, except 1 month of dexedrine in highschool - and the fact that the last time I was in college was in 2011), and my drinking is still steadyish, but has gone down considerably.

But besides this stuff, my curiousity has gone down a bit (my constant low level paranoia is far more manageable now too) as I find it's much easier to say "fuck that shit, I don't care about it" and mean it, and completely forget about the trifle in question without examining or contemplating every detail, but I just chalked that up to getting older (early 30s).

But I am better able to organize my life more and have more energy so there is a positive trade-off, I am now able to make plans and actually implement them rather than get bogged down by details and apathy,and also am much better at controlling my cravings, food and otherwise.

Btw, I am very redpilled, 8 yrs on the chans, /new/ within the first 2 weeks and Holla Forums since it's inception - which is why i put off getting on meds for so long in the first place (only since march).

It would be great if there was some way to actually know what is going on with a person's brain chemistry before prescribing them. As it is now, most people go to their primary care physician, say they are depressed, and get a proscription for something almost selected randomly (whatever the physician feels he's had most luck with). And when that doesn't work, try another, or add another.

And then some others get referred to a psychaitrist before the prescription comes but there's not much more logic or anything solid going into the decision there.

Depression is difficult to treat and for most people there's no solution, it's just life

The jew knows whats good for you goy.

I wish there was too. I did struggle with depression, and with counseling I got better. I was one of those people that talk therapy was what I needed. I think sometimes doctors will not refer people to a therapist, but just write a prescription.

The problem is that a GP will write you a script and then sign the papers to send you to the asylum when you react badly to them. This happened to me. I was so fucking off the rails, but the doctors at the emergency room were all "well you have only taken them for a week and that is too soon for a bad reaction" at the mental hospital they took me off of them while telling me that a person can react badly to a single dose.

Some people benefit from these medications, and I don't fault them. I am just concerned that some doctors give them out like candy to people coming in with complaints like "my mother, brother, husband just died and I'm sad" well yeah you are sad because you are supposed to be sad.

you deserve the gas chamber, cantstandya.

I'm on sertraline (Zoloft)

I was with Zoloft throghout Junior and Senior in high school

I can confirm I had 0 interest in learning since I took the pill.

However I had a high dose of 200mg.

Dropped the pills slowly and I really have no issues learning whatsoever now (when i was in school I was too Happy-pilled to do anything

I'm at 50mg due to stress/work/Masters and I'm the same as when I didn't take it at all except no over-worrying or stress.

I have OCD and I can vouch it does help, practically removing it.

I believe dosage is deifnitely a factor but yeah, never above 50mg again.

Everyone but me gotta learn

I'm not very open to counseling myself. Parents forced whole family into it when I was a teen, for five years or so once a week. It was a tremendous expensive waste of time that boils down to "think positive". The psychologist in this case had a long history with step-father from before the marriage and was biased when it came to family stuff.

Not the only one I've worked with. They are inevitably liberal cucks as well.

I already know about the methods they have at their disposal and that it won't work for me

do you live in a good part of the world? where I live even cooking the meat can't always enure there is no toxic effect.
We cannot even typically buy raw pork, butchers won't even stock it and it's not because of any mud invasion, just no availability.

was it worth it, user? you are never going to be the same person you were before you trusted kikes.
enjoy your out of body experience tonight, friend.

Zoloft really helps level my sertraline levels in my brain. I'm taking a very small amount which normalizes it to a normal level. I'm not adding extra and imbalancing it. I had unecessary worries of the most stupid shit due to low serotonin. It really helps me not being stressed 24/7

The side effect is I'm slightly more apathetic. That's about it. If anything It gives me a peace and clarity of mind that allows me to enjoy games/books/immerse myself very easily. It also helps me think clearly. Mostly because theres no stress anymore.

I wage the pros and cons and zoloft works for me. But as user said, the issue is psychiatrists throwing them like candy to people who may not need them at all.

I met a farmer the other day whose experience with disease was so limited her chickens got some parasites and they were spraying them with garlic water.

no wonder i have so much anxiety i didnt have before
my psych is a fucking retard

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That is because the entire industry of psychiatry is a pseudoscience and a scam to get you on pills.
The therapy is designed to fail so that you think you really might be sick and be more open to taking the chemical lobotomy. Once you take it there is no going back, you're fucking eugenics fodder at that point.
The entire system is jewry designed to make everyone that remotely goes near it permanently mentally ill and infertile. It is the greatest threat to the white race we are currently facing. Nothing else puts us down like this and makes us incapacitated infertile squishy sacks of shit like psychiatry, not uppity BLM niggers, not spics and muds that breed like rabbits, not jewish controlled banking and media(although that is a close and much more visible second)
It's an all encompassing system that exists to demeen, discredit, pacify, and ultimately destroy is.
Even anons ITT have drank the cyanide laced kool-aid.

Normalizes what exactly. There's almost no evidence to support the chemical imbalance model for mental illness.
>I need just the right amount of this drug every day or I will FUCKING SNAP
git gud, It sounds like you're wasting most of your time "immersing yourself" in escapism(even mentioning vidya, come on nigger) just like the kikes want you to, you're never going to reproduce because you took the non-figurative bluepill and spend 99% of your time watching moeblob trash.
Nobody "needs" the pills you idiot, you trusted jews and you're never going to be the same for it.
Go ahead and look up top 5 grossing pharm companies, tell me how many are owned by jews, founded by jews, or have a jewish majority on the board.

You are lucky as fuck

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I have never understood anti-depressants, all the commercials are always like,

This was a psychologist and not a psychiatrist. He had no input on my meds other than insisting that I keep taking the meds that the psychiatrist prescribed.

I have no faith in psychiatrists or psychologists. Although psychiatry is more a fraud overall.

Anybody actually know psych study majors in uni? Terrible people, go around analyzing everybody they know.

Psychology is designed to get people to go to psychiatry and get on medication, your braindead ass can't even put a blatant trail of breadcrumbs together. It's a self-evolving system intentionally failing everyone in it aka a meme, and a really evil one at that

Even at my most fucked point where I was a bluepilled teenager barely eating, sleeping, addicted to an illicit narcotic, and having girl trouble on a biweekly basis I had some kind of instinctual knowledge to avoid the pills and boy my teachers wanted me on them because the other drugs I was taking made my attention span shit
I took Xanax once at uni shortly before I got redpilled, it was absolutely horrifying the way it made me feel. I started talking like patrick fucking bateman going on these long as fuck nonsensical rants about how strange everyone around me is, basically became a huge asshole for 12 hours. After that I knew they were poison and started doing research, it directly led to me finding 4chan, a month later j00t deleted /r9k/ and I found smiley's posts and just had to mess with him.

Joot deleted r9k ?! Is it still around?

How come I don't see an r9k on Holla Forums?
Where is the biggest r9k board now? I've always wanted to watch the masters in action.

But SSRI is for people with abnormal (low) levels of serotonin… in this case how a "overuse of serotonin" can happen? The SSRI is just balancing the level.

ADHD/ADD

The jews are destroying the country by destroying its future.

There is literally no science behind the psychiatric medicine industry.
Basically, the idea of anti-depressants comes from a theory, that serotonin levels are low. There has been no testing that proves depression comes from low levels of serotonin.
I will repeat again, it is based on a theory.

When you go to the doctor, and say, I feel sad.
They do not open up your brain and measure the serotonin being released at the synapses.
They just say, the theory I was taught in brainwashing school says all depression = low serotonin.
Therefore pills.

If only people understood what a bunch of fucking morons psychiatrists are.
I mean these are literally people who sign up to take 12-14 years of school, and go half a million into debt, just so they can make 100K per year.
These are not smart people.

hey man is this also true with the extended release version? not that i want to try snorting it but i think if it's like cocaine (including the XR) that could be what's causing me diarrhea. fuck this shit

Low serotonin levels are at least a contributing factor to developing depression. Scandis have traditionally been known as prone to depression while depression is almost unknown in Nignogland, because exposure to sunlight increases serotonin production.

We also know that SSRIs have a measurable effect on emotional stability in people with chronic depressions.

The only major problem with them is how easy it is to get prescriptions, but that's an issue with the surrounding bureaucracy and doctors being lazy and/or unethical.

That's not how melanin works.

If a white person with pale skin is in even cloudy sunlight for one hour it's the same as a blackskin nigger being in the sun for 6 hours.

The reason niggers don't get depressed is because they lack higher thought functions and are incapable of self-awareness, animals don't get depressed.

anyone else think caffeine might a part of this

Yes they do, especially mammals.

There's some nuance needed here.

SSRI's work for a VERY small set of people, as evidenced by some of OP's links. For those people, these meds will not "cure" your depression, they'll just make it not so shitty. In other words, your mood will be relatively stable.

Once the mood levels out, there NEEDS to be work done with a professional therapist. This is where you start getting the patient to start getting back to self-actuation and learning. Again, these meds only work for a VERY small set of people.

You're fucking retarded, and have no idea what my life is like, nor my father's or sister's. It's certainly real. Unless something interests me greatly, it is literally impossible to focus on it. It's not fucking willpower you dumbass. I can throw myself at an activity with the force of a thousand suns, but it's impossible to maintain it on something that isn't particularly interesting. Half the time you don't even realize you lost focus until two hours go by and you find yourself playing vidya, wondering what the fuck happened.

Imagine it like this. Most people can sit with an activity for hours that only requires 30% of their brain. Meanwhile, my brain is constantly trying to find a way to be at 100% all the time, and only at that capacity can I focus. When I can focus though, I do so at a level orders of magnitude more than a normal person. It's unbreakable to the point that you have to physically shake me to get my attention. Generally, the more stressful or adrenaline inducing something is, the better an ADHD person can focus.

A lack of willpower would generally apply to all activities, and not just sustained ones. For example, I have no issues controlling what I eat but I can't remember what you told me 5 seconds ago to save my life.

cite a source from a study which shows that, otherwise blow it out your ass.

Just came in here to say this, there's even a section on insanity in the jewish encyclopedia comparing Jews to christians on the level of insanity.

A study done in 2010 backed up that kikes carried the gene frequencies heavily associated with paranoid schizophrenia.

I'm slightly sceptical of natural remedies and medicine and know that there are many snake oil salesmen in that field too, but it's definitely something interesting to look into and big pharma shill so hard against it that it piques my curiosity even more.

I've recently been prescribed Sertraline, don't know much about it but I feel irritable when trying to sleep and it can make feel sick sometimes. Don't know too much about it but I think I'm gonna stop taking it.

>redorbit.com/news/health/333128/antidepressant_apathy_syndrome/

this shit is 10 years old. try harder, faggot.

>drkaslow.com/html/neurotransmitter_depletion.html

oh, really?

casewatch.org/board/med/hinz/HINZ, Martin C 5-12-01.pdf

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

wow. that some reliable source you have there, you stupid cunt.

take your quackery back to godlikeproductions, retard.

Good post.

I think I hope that in the future, a lot of today's ignorance will be seen as silly as we see the idea of balancing your humours in ancient medicine.

We're fed these ideas and habits today that create problems in our lives so we can be sold products to fix them. Modern hygiene practices for example are obsessive and damaging to the body. Now I'm not saying we should all just be stinky and unkempt, not at all. I'm saying that when we constantly douse our bodies with hardcore, anti-bacterial soaps we strip our bodies of our natural oils and healthy bacteria cultures, which we have a symbiotic relationship with. This makes the body compensate by producing even more oils, which we then need to wash even more frequently to avoid excessive oil buildup. This is harmful to our health. We damage our skin with heavy soaps and hot water, and either accept the damage or moisturize. We damage our hair with unnecessarily complex and powerful shampoos that we then need to condition or let it get weird and fall out sooner than it should. We eat foods that rot our teeth and damage our gut flora. We give kids medicines that hurt them more than they help and make everything worse far down the line.

He can't, unless it's a study documenting the abuse of amphetamines in general, which doesn't differentiate between actual prescription use and a meth addict.

He can't.

Those studies are very much in need of validation, not that I can find the one he claims. Furthermore, it's only a tiny handful of studies that have claimed this, and often in high or injected doses. At therapeutic doses, the evidence for the this claim is practically nonexistent. Even so, the "degeneration" they found was long-lasting, not permanent, and pretty much a non-concern at the levels they found.

Additionally, if you are concerned, there were several things found to possibly counteract this. Take your multivitamins, some magnesium, and melatonin at night. Oh, and make sure you are hydrated and not standing in a desert all day long. The two main contributing factors appear to be the dose at which you take it (I.e recreational) and whether or not your brain is getting into hyperthermia territory.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2670101/

Obligatory post shilling LSD/psilocybin for anyone with trouble keeping their shit together. Tune in, white man. Trust not the ((pharmaceutical companies)).

Lamictal is a hell of a drug. My wife had her first seizure back in July, after her third one since March. Her sex drive is ridiculous now. While she was on birth control, she gave me sex out of pity since she had no desire. After she got off it, she wanted to have sex once a week or so. On the lamictal though, my god, she's a fucking semen demon.

I got a story of one time she really surprised me, because she isn't kinky, but that might be because she's shy/anxious (lamictal helps that too, her seizures might be "fake", brought on by stress, so the medication helps either way). We come home from dinner one night, and she's in this amazing little orange and black dress. I go into the bedroom, as does she, only to get up a few minutes later. Now, with my ADD, I didn't even realize she left the room, until I turned to tell her something. So, I went looking for her. She's on our apartment balcony, blankets spread out, and some quiet music. She immediately kisses me, wraps her legs around me, and pulls out a condom. Literally the hottest sex I've ever had.

Also, speaking of condoms, here's a protip. Import Sagami condoms from Japan. Make sure to buy the large size, as those Japanese fuckers are tiny. .02 mm and actually feels like nothing is there. Damn Nippon magic.

I confirm

My father is fucking stupid now.

user, most on Holla Forums are so autistic about drugs that the second they see you mention psychedelics they're just going to chalk your post up as degenerate garbage. I agree with you though, mushrooms helped me see the hidden jew in most things. Funny thing actually, while watching Daredevil on LSD I noticed they make a joke about german beer every once in a while, "german piss" they call it, just some harmless funny joke on the writers part, right? :^)

Unbelievably sad

It was the comeup, you think I'd waste anything past that on tv?

There's a good chance you are in need of a fecal transplant.

In order to feel alive again you need physicall pain and violence.
Trust me.

For those who can't see red.

I believe just eating food is better for calming me down than the (((pills))) (((doctors))) want me to take. The (((pills))) have fucked my sleeping schedule up for the past 5 years

Lad, there is nothing as calming as fighting and workout.

Working out helps me even more, believe me

what about ritalin? Can I still take that?

Not really, on the ADHD side of things. Hell, ADHD people have a much higher chance of having bipolar disorder. ADHD people are often more intelligent than the average individual, but it's the inability to focus that fouls it all up. Thats when the really fucking careless mistakes come into play. Well, unless the hyperfocus kicks in, and then I'm practically cheating.

If anything, the ADHD brain is wired for two scenarios. High adrenaline or stressful situations and problem solving, particularly when the two are combined (this is the fucking reason video games suck our lives away so much.)

In school, I could understand almost any concept, regardless of subject near instantly. Math and science were the easiest subjects to comprehend, but my grades certainly didn't reflect that (my wife and I are both in Cal 2, I'm her tutor and have the lower grade lol) The primary reason? Getting homework done and memorizing terms or formulas was damn near impossible. ADHD is like having a boat twice as fast as everyone else, but no captain to steer it. One thing constantly told to ADHD kids is "You're so smart, but why won't you try/care more?"

i was prescribed paxil a few weeks ago for anxiety ,i told dr bitch i wasnt depressed at all i just get anxiety
after 8 days of being on paxil i was getting shorttemperd moreso than normal ,irratable as hell and muscle tensed up like i just took an assload of c4 before a work out
i called them up and cussed them out they kept asking if i was slowly weaning of of it i said i took it every other the day for 4 days now and i havent took anymore
i ended up diggin in the trash bag for half of one depression ,sever anxiety like i never felt hit me
that half a pill helped ,but i took 2 spoons of kratom to calm me down
fuck antidepressants and drs that just hand em out

I've actually seen decent amounts of support for psychedelic use here. We had a thread a bit ago where some OP was decrying LSD and got like 400+ replies calling him out as a retard.

I felt MDMA to be nicer than LSD or shrooms, but that's just me.

I hear so many people telling me that I should get off anti depressants. My biggest issue is that when I look back at how I was before the drugs, I prefer the post drugs version of me. I was a highly anxious NEET that debated about suicide constantly before the drugs. I didn't even have a drivers license because driving made me a nervous wreck. Now, I'm driving and have a job. I'm not feeling any adverse effects from my Paxil, aside from delayed ejaculation. I know the drugs are just a crutch that could have adverse effects in the future. But I'm afraid that I'm somehow going to revert back to the person I was before.

all recreational drugs are degenerate. i dont know how people here can defend that shit.

I take shrooms every weekend with my parents. We to a park and laugh for hours at how beautiful God made the Earth. You probably have no one to share these kinds of things with.

its just as bad as drinking.

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LSD is only purely recreational when used improperly by people lacking understanding.

God I need to get out of here. Is there any place that hasn't been corrupted by jew sorcery?

No, pretty much everywhere on the internet and in this fucked up society we've crafted believes the pharmaceutical jew

I was on welbutrin

It gave the effect you said of the other ssris

I've done psilocybin mushrooms and DMT before, only a few times.
They can be nice for philosophy, if you can maintain a level head…
But for the most part, they are just a mental impedance and block to rational thought. For the most part, they are used by the lowliest faggot normie fucks.
Pozzing the world would not have been possible with out Psychedelics. They remove the ability to use logic.

This

How did you end up fixing your shit then?

I might be on the road to getting prescribed this shit soon but I doubt I'm gonna take it either way

i need to learn to fly fast

I had Selexa and after Wellbutrin over the course of 6 years. My IQ measurably dropped 12 points (127 to 115) and I gained 30LBS and lost my hair.

You will be happier being depressed. Ironic right?

My sister is on antidepressants, and is convinced she has ADHD as well. It changed her… Her curiosity is nonexistent. She's depressed and anxious, on top of an already existing diagnosis of dispraxia. How do I get her off this shit? She needs councelling, not drugs, but she won't listen.

Most on Holla Forums are only opposed to drug use when there is evidence that it fucks with the individual which leads to the decay of society. Things like SSRIs, Benzos, and Opioids all have great examples of what happens with use/overuse of them. No one would say that a heroin addict is good for society, but no one would deny a dying person morphine in their end time if it made them able to die without pain and spend more time with their loved ones.

With psychedelics there is the issue of normies assuming that they will find some defiant truth about themselves or the world simply by taking them. It always seems that the answer is just out of reach and only going deeper and deeper will bring you closer to it. In reality the further down that rabbit hole you go the further you place yourself away from your loved ones, society, and yourself. At some point you have to come back up the hole and put the pieces back together for it to be a useful experience. If you can't do that you've simply replaced the thing that led you to try them in the first place with pure with chaos. It sometimes takes months or years to fully understand a strong experience on one of these substances.

Like all things it has become over used. Every day there are parties filled with idiots downing massive amounts of LSD/MDMA, mushrooms, or the numinous research chemicals that mimic those drugs. All one has to do is be around these people while sober and listen to them babbling on to know that while they think they're gaining some insight that they can't see sober they're usually just high and what they're talking about usually makes little sense even to someone that's more experienced with the substances than they are.

I spent the better part of my 20s searching for some ultimate truth with these substances and the disassociate drugs (ketamine, MXE). In the long run they only made my underlying problems worse and were mostly just a waste of time and an excuse to get high and laugh at things that weren't funny. They are powerful tools when used in the right setting, for the right reasons, with the right person guiding the others. They can break cycles of addiction/depression or give you a better outlook in life. But you have to do the actual work after they wear off, otherwise it was a waste of time and you'll just find yourself worse off once the afterglow of the experience wears off.

Finally there is always the danger of a mental break on those substances. I'm talking about something beyond a "bad trip". I've seen it happen so many times now to newbies and experienced users alike. It happened to me on a single dose of LSD long into my tripping career, although it was dosed pretty high (250ug). I'd done more than that on multiple occasions before and several substances that were "harder" (like DPT) but my mind state going in sent me straight into hell. I got effects far beyond what I should have been getting and the only reason I remained sane by the end of it was because a friend watched over me. It was the experience that finally led me to quit drugs all together so in the long run it was good for me but I don't know if most would have come out of it as well off as I did.

I'd still take LSD over an SSRI any day. I got ran through them for depression/insomnia in my early 20s and all they did was make me feel like a zombie. It also made suicide seem like something that wouldn't be as hard to go through with and gave me thoughts that I should take a few "bad people" down with me if I were going to do it. I totally understand why every time someone goes crazy and shoots up a school or mall they're on those things.

ask her to watch all of this. All 3 hours.
Tell her it is important to her life, or something.

fuckin degenerate. Drug culture is what led to the faggots and hippies. Shill harder

What am I shilling for again? Read the post idiot, I'm not advocating for the use of drugs I'm telling you why they're a bad idea.

Straight edge people are worse than hippies sometimes I swear.

Also Check'em

She's a left-leaning psychology student. She wouldn't give that video a chance.

Recreational drug use and even shamanism are a huge part of many ancient European culture.

I'm taking Adderall as well (prescribed by my doctor after I described my constant unfocus in all areas of life). I'm on the lowest dose, and that's enough to give me a calm focus to help get me through a day of class + homework + work.

My doctor's name is, no lie, Doctor Ree.

The culture of drug excess is what degenerated things not the substances themselves. Just like how fat obese fucks shouldn't be used to say "fats and sugars are degenerate". It's excess and gluttony which is the issue. Whites have imbibed consciousness altering substances for thousands of years, faggot.

man fuck this shit. i as well as my family fell for the depression shit in hs my senior year. my life has only gotten worse the past 5. HAS ANYONE GOTTEN OF OF LEXAPRO BEFORE? help me, im tired of being a zombie, dull idiot. i want to go back to the way i felt growing up. pls help

Elemental fluorine is extremely toxic due to its high electronegativity. It also serves no natural purpose in the human body.

Stopped watching about five minutes in.

Shyness isn't social anxiety disorder, and not even required for the diagnosis. SAD is when you are hyper-critical of yourself in social situations, and paranoid of other's criticisms of you. A shy person is simply nervous around others, but isn't demolishing their self-esteem. A person with SAD could appear completely normal in conversation, but in their head it's a warzone.

Major Depression is not losing a family member, although that can start it. Most people feel like shit, but still function in a generally normal way. They still have interest in activities. If anything depression isn't characterized really by sadness at all, but rather numbness. You feel numb to everything and everyone around you. Things you once found interesting simply stop being so, leading to you just doing fuck all.

Homesickness is separation anxiety, but not a disorder. It only becomes so when you can't bear to leave your family for a couple hours, not a week at summer camp.

Mere suspicion isn't PPD. PPD is when your suspicions are uncontrollable and unreasonable. Imagine thinking the pizza delivery man is attempting to assassinate you without any reason to believe so.

Bipolar disorder isn't having "ups and downs" in just the emotional sense. During the manic phase, they are physically "up" as well as emotionally/mentally. They will appear to get no sleep, yet have energy for days and will be off the walls while possibly being a danger to themselves or others. The depressive phase is, well, characterized by low energy and depressive moods.

Distractibility is not ADHD, and this is one I'm personally familiar with. It's the inability to direct your focus, which can be exhibited as either distractibility or hyper-focus. It's the latter part that's the important differentiation. During the rare times I can focus (interests or high stress/adrenaline), I'll be entirely blind to what's going on around me. Rather than being distracted, you practically have to shake me TO distract me. ADHD is only possessing those two modes at the extreme, and no middle ground.

Don't underestimate desperation, lad. I was in an abusive relationship, living in poverty abroad and working for an abusive company. Honestly, mood stabilizers helped keep me sane amidst that deeply dark period of my life, but I knew as soon as I started that I'd be off them and just smoke canabis until I got my mind in order. I honestly recommend no one to take them, unless one has a very serious condition.

Anyway, just turn to God if you're looking for amelioration. Grace has two major stages: initial grace and permanent grace. When you first open your self to God, you will truly begin to feel the imperative value of spirituality, but your understanding of it remains incomplete. Then your quest will begin in understanding the totality of life and spirituality and if you push far enough and truly let go, things will click and the beauty, truth, and serenity of life will unveil.

However post-awakening is when grace (commection with God) becomes fully mature.This takes work, but by pushing far enough one will truly heal their wounds and radiate love wherever they go. It takes work because if one reaches this stage then they are very likely to be redpilled and the Jews will fill you with hate and hold you back from being compassionate.

Anyway, if you want to heal your mind naturally, turn to God. Be aware of false prophets and teachers and never think you are a god. Be honest with your afflictions and find the root to your behavior and pain. And above all else experience life and try new things. Follow and strengthen your intuition and body. There are a lot of good resources available. God loves you and always tries to communicate with you via synchronicity.

I know I sound like a faggot, but it's the truth. I wish you all the best.

Fucking this, not just with the IBS, but with stress in general. If the job you're working at is making you feel unfulfilled and unsatisfied, along with making you feel like shit and having depressing thoughts whenever you're there and feeling better when you leave, find yourself a different job as soon as fucking possible or if you can afford to do so, leave the job and take time for yourself to enjoy some things in life and recover.

Perhaps it's just from my experience, but I noticed that if the job is unfulfilling or at the very least not giving you the necessary daily physical activity needed, you not only start to lose muscle and gain fat, you become mentally exhausted since the only muscle you're using is your brain. Over time that starts to effect you in ways that can be worse physical exhaustion.

This happens mostly to people working in desk jobs (such as call centers, IT, etc.), which some companies try to compensate for the lack of physical activity with offering gym memberships or discounts, but they don't factor in that some of their employees don't have time after work or even live near a gym, much less where they work, and most of the time when your shift is done, you just want to go home and try to relax before having to go through the same shit again. It may work for some, but not everyone.

I can say from personal experience working in IT and working more physically active jobs in the past that I'd rather be working my ass off physically and be in good company than strain my brain and have it feel like the back of my head's about to explode from the stress and staring at PC screens all fucking day. Sure you can be stressed in a physically demanding job, but a lot of it can be worked off by the physical activity itself and if the company you're working for is a good one (a very rare thing in this day and age), they will allow you to accumulate vacation time to have time to truly relax if needed.

I fell for the "IT jobs will be the where the money's at" dream hook, line, and sinker growing up since it was a new prospect at the time, and I didn't realize how saturated it was going to become and how working as an IT person was truly like. I'm currently trying to find a job that not only will allow me to get out of IT and earn enough to sustain myself, but also allow me to go to a trade school to learn something that would truly help others and feel fulfilling.

tl;dr: If the job you're working at is giving you nothing but stress, depression, and making you feel unfulfilled, get a different job or find somewhere where you can learn a skill to give you a more fulfilling job.

Apologies for the blog post.

Same with porn.
If you're not on nofap or at least on noporn, you're destroying yourself.

I still don't understand why any depressed person would take an SSRI. I'm preface that with I'm not depressed so I don't have a good reference in what kind of hell it's like.

SSRIs have proven to be a short term solution (maximum 10 years or so?) to a long term problem. There's going to be a point where the SSRI you are on will stop working and then you will have to jump back onto the SSRI roulette of finding another one that works or face the hellish reality that pills can't cure what you have. If you really desire the pain to stop and have exhausted all possible alternatives, including eating right, exercise, possibly psychedelics, ketamine seems to be the meme drug these days, why would you take something that "fixes" your problem in exchange for whitewashing everything else that makes you a real human being?

Sincere apologies to any actual depressed anons that I triggered.

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so is it the porn itself that Is bad? what makes it bad opposed to no porn?

Took five different SSRIs.

All made much me stupider than medical marijuana.

Now I know why it was once (((illegal))) in this state.

Fucking kill me. I fear I can never break the cycle of degeneracy.

Addiction comes from the inability to say no.

Yes.

Can someone explain this phenomenon? I also help getting these "brain jolts".

That should be **keep

Those brain zaps are a common complaint among those who quit SSRIs cold turkey. I tried going from 40mg citalopram to 0, and after six days it felt like there was an electrical storm in my brain.

You have to pair it down bit by bit. I went back on at 20mg instead of 40. In a couple month I'll drop it to 10, and then see if I can just do without.

My complaint about citalopram is that it makes me feel like I can just accept the things in my life that are shitty instead of feeling the indignation to do something about it.

Xanax help me keep my anger and social anxiety under control, and I actually am thinking of going back to smoking cannabis because the time in my life when I was most successful in work and relationships was when I was smoking.

SSRIs were important when I didn't care about leaving bed or eating, but I think I'm ready to leave them behind.

One would hope those people are not around here to read my suggestions in the first place.

I guess there are normies here after all.

Speaking of drugs, I remember shilling back in uni assorted nootropics since people were desperate.

I was put on SSRIs for depression in my late teens. I didn't know about all the issues with anti-depressants, but I didn't really want them because it seemed like drugs were just a way of doping you up to avoid dealing with your actual problems. The doctors insist it's necessary though, and most people trust that following the advice of a doctor when you're "sick" will make you better. They justify it by saying the anti-depressants will boost your mood enough to allow you to make other positive changes, but I can't recall ever feeling that much better because of the drugs.

One interesting thing I noticed when I was going to therapy is that the majority of the people being treated for depression were white, but the area I live in is flooded with immigrants. But don't worry goy, you're just feeling alienated and miserable because of a chemical imbalance in your brain, we'll fix you right up with some brain-destroying chemicals.

opinions on receptor inverse-agonists and receptor antagonists?

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saving this

Yes. Yes you are a faggot, now leave you obviously don't belong here cuck.

That explains why some 69 percent of people on SSRIs dont have deeprrssion

yes

Send help.

I've never been able to focus on anything and have been having spouts of what people are telling me is probably depression. My back is against the wall here. I can't get done what I want to get done, meaning that I'm turning out to be a failure in life.

I'm probably going to have to go to the doctor eventually to find out if there's actually something wrong with me or if I'm just spiritually deprived. Either way, I've already screwed up too much to be able to amount to anything in the future failed muh ancestors. The general impression I'm getting from this thread is that if I am diagnosed with something I should not take any medication recommended by the doctor as it will most likely just make things worse, correct?

Sage for off-topic and personal stuff.

Wellbutrin made you lethargic? Strange as it is a stimulant. These things affect everyone differently though.

That sounds like some prison tier shit.

yes, and I doubt they will hit you with just depression, probably an antisocial disorder if you can`

it's called akathesia

fuck outta here, if you're nogf you should fap a few times a week just to keep the juices flowing. Porn is for weak minded degenerates who either never fucked a hot girl or don't have an imagination.

Stimulants will make you lethargic as all fuck unless you're taking them nasally / IV on a near constant basis
t. not neal cassady

Strange, Wellbutrin XL made go from wanting to sleep all day to easily being able to get up in the morning and not feel like taking a nap all day. The insomnia was pretty bad though.

I'm on Effexor

What about SNRI's?

Be very careful with picking your doctor. Assuming you're white, find an old fashioned, white coat wearing, runs his own clinic, white male doctor that will sit down and talk to you for more than 5 minutes. It took me several years to find one like that taking new patients in a city of 150,000, and even then I got in because he was a friend of a friend (my boss, actually). Not being able to focus could be a lot of shit. I had been feeling the same way (only the occasional Klonopin or Xanax helped) and my energy level was terrible. Woke up tired. Old doctor said "standard blood tests say nothing so in my book you're fine, go away". I insisted on a low-T test and sure enough, I was really low, and he told me agian to "go away I don't treat that". Took me 3 years to get in with the good doctor who took the time to figure out what's up. He figured out low T and low energy and gaining weight was all related to severe sleep apnea… so yeah your answer might not at all have to do with Jew drugs… just find a good doc.

My long ago experience with Welbutrin (prescribed by some quack African, yes literally from Africa, doctor, because he was all I could get to see me at the time) was terrible. I was on Xanax, a benzo for anti-anxiety, which helped my anxiety, then he switched me to an SSRI, zoloft, (because reasons, surely I'd get addicted, yada yada) which helped very little, as it's an antidepressant, and although I was depressed too, I needed to be sad at the time, it was the anxiety I had trouble handling. I also couldn't afford it, so he switched me to an SNRI, Welbutrin, which he said "was the same thing". Well obviously not, it's a different neurotransmitter, and all Welbutrin made me do was want to go out and start a fight, like seriously, it was all I could do to not go out and just punch a random person, because it seemed like it would be a lot of fun.

TL;DR: get and old fashioned white doctor and steer clear of SSRI / SNRI unless you really really need them

Depression is a natural reaction to slavery, Autothysis. It sabotages the captors and disincentivizes them from enslaving more of your kind. A depressed slave is useless, sometimes he will do the bare minimum work that is required to survive, sometimes not even that, in any case the slavers suffer. (Even acquiring and then killing the slave is waste.)

In our modern world it can activate from different reasons. Most of us have been effectively breed and conditioned for slavery, but always up to a certain point, tune the slavery up and you need to tune the domestication up too, or take the cost in depressed slaves for a while until things settle (We and the likes of us become extinct and so on.)

This is the natural core of depression, of course it's not the only reason just like some people experience hunger or sweating from many weird causes besides the need of nutrition or thermoregulation/toxins cleansing etc.

One of the main "weird" causes is the disruption of gut flora, that is, the many bacteria (Some are hereditary and thus have very old lineages!) that live all along your digestive track playing a role in your cognition believe it or not, direct connection with the nervous system. Chlorine, city pollution, "energy" pollution, kike food, etc.

Another one is a software issue, insanity basically, rarer that you'd think and best approached with psychedelics or outside help (Fix/alter the person's life to reprogram their minds.)

A good heuristic if you really need psychiatric meds: Go with the old medicines, 50+ years old. Every year they make new drugs that are utter trash (All the effective ones are already discovered and their patents have expired) and force them down on people for economic reasons, if not directly for evil reasons.

What has this got to do with Jews?

Stop disrupting their ecosystem or let them die with honor.

When I first went to college, I went there chasing after my highschool girlfriend. I eventually broke up with her and entered a spiral of depression. Ended up going to my university counselor where, after telling them about the shit with my girlfriend, diagnose me with clinical depression and schizophrenia. The anti depressants didn't seem odd butt the schizo diagnosis, along with the push to take anti-psychotics were odd; but hey they're a doctor user they know what they're talking about. Clinical depression can lead to auditory hallucinations and fits of talking to yourself, the doctor said so; so it might be best to just take the prescription for these pills like the doctor was saying.

The anti-depressants didnt have any of an effect on me. I took them for a week by themself and it did not make me feel any less depressed. So I decided to take the anti-psychotics at that point.

I was just as numb. Thats all I could feel was numb. Better yet, the pills made it so I couldnt feel. Little did I know that these feelings of increased numbness were due to the fact that the university health center was dosing me on FUCKING THORAZINE.

I didnt know much about the drug until I started reading about it. Here I am, taking a drug meant to zombify crazy people because I had a bad breakup. When in reality there was no reason to be taking Thorazine AT ALL.

The Thorazine fucked me up more than losing my highschool girlfriend could ever have. Eventually I would have gotten over the girl on my own. However, the Thorazine I had taken for a few months at the point I had decided to stop taking it, had taken its tole.

I have a constant lingering feeling of numbness and apathy to most things in this world. I have trouble creating new relationships; the only ones I can hold seem to be the ones I established before I started taking Thorazine. New relationships I have with women seem to fizzle out shortly as I cannot bring myself to care about them. I have an inability to make new friends, and I rely on the few highschool friends I still keep in contact with. Days blend into a week and time passes me by so quickly that I find myself suddenly 3 years older in a job I wish I was not in and who can only feel any sort of feeling by smoking the peaceful herb.

TL;DR: DO NOT GO TO PSYCHIATRISTS THEY MAKE MONEY BY FUCKING YOU UP MORE I HAD TO LEARN THAT THE HARD WAY

No regrets.

I still have a really shitty attention span, though.

From someone who was on it for a few months.

What it does is take away suicidal thoughts.

People go on them for years expecting their lifes to get better just by taking the pill. Its a rope that you can use to climb yourself out of the pit.

If you throw a rope down to someone in the pit and they just sit there, what do you think is going to happen?

These things aren't bad, they're just not administered properly. They need to be used in conjunction with a restructuring of how they live their lives.

If it's a particularly hard case, they need to start doses of psilosibin to allow their brain to break certain habits.

the same people who made highly concentrated moonshine decades ago.

people started breeding for high terpenoid levels only a few years ago. and nobody except for the (((cbd crew))) breeds for high CBD+CBC. and they're working on patenting every one of their strains.

woooow I bet it was a HUGE indoor op… what was it kid, something like 10 1000w lights?

right conclusion but your reasoning is dumb. the toxic chemicals (eagle 20, etc) are to save the grower's ass and get rid of PM+mites when they were too negligent to get rid of it in the first place. you don't need to use those chemicals to increase the bud yield, people just choose shitty genetics like Big Bud for that. maybe don't go to the shitty rec shops like livwell, native roots, etc?

top kek, maybe you should stop associating with liberals and find some conservative friends. over 50% of US cannabis is produced by people who will shoot libs on sight.

but nah, let the niggers and liberals grab 100% of a soon to be $100billion industry….

Toothpaste has sodium fluoride, not calcium fluoride. Water doesn't have flouride at all though, it has fluorosilicic acid.

Do your research. Start by looking up late onset schizophrenia diagnosis in the USSR.

Have you been tested for coeliac disease?

Or SIBO (small intestinal bacterial overgrowth)

Here is info about SIBO Specific Diet which may help
archive.is/dsgXv

That's not true at all. 90% of serotonin is in your intestines. Depression has a lot more to do with your overall health and the dopamergenic system.

I had the same problem, here's what worked best for me.

Drink lots of orange juice.
Take vitamin C multiple times a day.
Eat raw carrots every day
Get some sun every day

It takes awhile but it works better than anything else.

Why is that?

Also I took ssri's for 2 years am I fucked/ are there things I can do to at least work against the effects?

The only thing that is removed by juicing is fiber.

Start taking it and report back on how it affects you

Three and half days off of mine.
Dizzy as fuck.

About 7 years ago shit happened, and I became serially suicidal. Eventually, I was diagnosed and medicated.

SSRIs helped. I was in a sea of grief I could not fathom, and they attenuated and distanced it, some.

I never wanted to take them, but at one point I was on suicide watch for months, deprived of even sheets, blankets, and paper, because I would find ways to try to kill myself.

So I dug a 5cm deep hole in my groin with my fingernail, trying to sever my femoral artery.

After I began SSRIs I quit needing to end the mental anguish to that desparate level.

Today I take Xanax on occasion, but not daily, and usually to stop the PTSD uncontrollable daymares that keep me from sleeping.

SSRIs saved my life.

I still, however, wish I had succeeded the first time, May 20, 2009, and had not had to live through what I have.

Dude, as a child I would fap 10 times an HOUR. Even after I hit 47 and, after divorce, hooked up with a total slut who would fuck me 5 or more times a day, I still fapped at least a couple times, and usually more often than we fucked.

Now, after some Bad Things™ happened which had me dosed on multiple SSRIs, Elavil, Bupropion, and Xanax, among others, I'm down to once or twice a week.

I also wish I was dead, and could not be less motivated to live. I don't take any of those any more, but the damage to my libido has already been done.

The worst thing you can do to someone is serially addict to SSRIs, opiates, and Xanax, and then put them through cold turkey, over and over.

They did that to me over a dozen times in Oregon. Seriously rolling on the floor pulling out hair anguish.

Three days after cutting me off, they'd show up with my meds, like nothing had happened.

It is literally torture, and I can't even imagine what the spooks do to those poor fucks in Gitmo, or worse Black Sites.

How does it feel being a fucking infertile zombie incapable of rational thought?

Do it. I weened off viibryd too abruptly, be careful and take time or you'll be uncomfortable for a few months. that stuff was way better than lexapro though, didn't kill libido and erections. Anyways, depression is about thought patterns and lifestyle, take care of yourself and the depression will lessen

Try probiotics, Saccharomyces cerevisiae helps my IBS sometimes.
Other than that, get enough sleep, don't eat after waking up (2-3 hours of fasting before my first meal works for me), find out what your trigger foods are (black pepper just fucks my shit up, if I eat some the next day I'll have tremors and uncontrolled movements from my abdomen to my feet, diarrhea, a burning feeling in my intestine, dry mouth, dizzyness) and avoid the like the plague.
Try eating more bananas, they're especially important if you have chronic diarrhea because of potassium.
For the bad days, get loperamide (Imodium and generics, slows your bowel down) and butylscopolamine (Buscopan, antispasmotic).
Both of these medications combined make for a good all around effect with little to no side effects.
That's how I survive.

Well it's one way to look at it, I guess.

This. FFS THIS. I was raised wild, on an island in Alaska. After moving to Austin, TX, marrying, kids, marketing manager for a couple decades, I went through a hell I truly would have rather not lived through.

While I'm not happy, or got my life all just how everyone tells me is how it should be, I'm innawoods, and not gonna kill anyone today, not even me.

Freedom is the only therapy I have any feeling of success from.

food deprivation, sleep deprivation, water deprivation, light deprivation, regulated doses of lsd, dxm, and lithium with some patented secret recipe chems at regular intervals, and that just to start with

Americans have been brainwashed into thinking torture is about pain, torture can be very effective without spilling a drop of blood.

Dude I am fertile as all fuck. I have two kids conceived from anal, and one from a woman who waz told she was infertile.

Also have just been recruited as a problem solver for a company that helps companies innovate.

Rational thought, nor infertility, are my problem. PTSD is.

Every brain is unique, and each of the various psychoactive chemicals are like bludgeoning a different part of the brain.

Some work for someand not for others, and because we have only a rudimentary grasp of how the brain works, and as to how that affects minds, the MDs are left with trial and error.

Not confidence inspiring, but there it is.

Anyway, you were totally off the mark regarding me. You clearly must be an MD to be so fail.

Ulcerative colitis here. As something against the symptoms (diarrhea) I recommend psyllium seed husks.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psyllium_seed_husks
You can get them as a kind of powder or simply in pill form. They're supposed to help with loose stool and constipation and they help me a bit. No side effects. Of course these are just to help with the symptoms, NOT a treatment of any kind.

no shit
I've been on Ritalin from age 6 to 18.
26 now and I'm an empty shell of a man.

Well put.

I've seen the same thing happen to multiple people i know. I even saw something similar with people taking ritalin. It's like it turns you into a robot, any joy of life is gone.

There's also no taboo about drugs in any way whatsoever anymore. My cousin who has an 8 year old boy, already sends him to the psychiatrist for his 'hyperactivity', even though i know they just didn't raise him well. There's nothing wrong with the kid if you handle him properly.

Kids are basically made into little pillmachines. This ofcourse is linked to the fact that both parents work in most new families nowadays, meaning little to no time to actually spent on their children. Because of this, parents turn to pills to avoid having to take the blame themselves.

This infuriates me even more because it's something that i can see every day, it's not even subtle. The next generation of children is completely fucked.

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/r9k/ went to wizchan.

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I have a similar story. I was on Lexapro from 12 to 20. I'm 26 now.

I dropped out of college after a semester when I was on the medication and did poorly in middle and high school. After going off it, I ended up going to college again and getting an electrical engineering degree.

I think it could have permanently affected my memory as well. Although, it's hard to say, because I was on it for so long. It's very sad to think I'll never reach my full potential. I think the medication may have also made me more impulsive.

The worst part is that I had a Jewish psychiatrist.

It sucks. My mother didn't even want to put me on the medication, but she did it anyways. What the hell was she thinking? I have no idea what my dad was doing, but I guess he didn't really care.

How do you even do that shit? After just 1 I already feel kind of strained down there and after 2 its just downright painful (in a timespan of like 5 hours).

If you are sad, get angry. You are more likely to get shit done with fire in your heart than feeling sorry for yourself.

If you feeling like turning on the porntube or fapping during the day, that means you have a moment, go outside and run. Carry the urge with you. That urge is like a tiger, ride the tiger and let it die out somewhere where it can't harm you: outside. When you learn that lesson first-hand, you will come up with many other things you can do here.

Theres always a time and place for fapping, but never with porn.

Turn reading into a sensual activity, it may be hard to do with your modern faggot attentionspan at first, but break yourself in, self control. After a while you will begin to think differently, more objective, more calm, like a stoic. And all from taking more time to read, the information you get is secondary to the psychological effects of the medium, you will feel them when you pass the hurdle in your attention span, more sure of yourself. I think most issues have to do with attention span, if your attention span is a problem work on it, I don't know how else to explain it besides the old masculine way.

I've been saying this forever, totally vindicated

coq-10, essential fish oils, and bio-pqq may be able to help reverse some of the effects of the medications user

try turmeric

Could the problem possibly only be with the SSRI anti-depressants?

I take old Tricyclic anti-depressant which gives both dopamine and seratonine, and i've noticed increased memory, being able to score very high in tests and being able to recall things very vividly.

I'm ashamed to admit that I take Cymbalta. I'm in the process of weaning myself off. The major reason for me wanting to stop taking it was after I inspected the Cymbalta bottle I noticed that it was manufactured in Israel. FUCKING ISREAL.

As far as I understand lab made chemicals affecting your brain creates long lasting and detrimental effects

Herbal medicine is the way to go user st. johnswort and turmeric will help you alot but don't take the st johnswort with the ssri

What works of literature would you reccomend?

i've severe depressions and get really depressed ill when i dont take them, where in suicidal thoughts become problems and life becomes unbearable.

I know that, I used to suffer from the exact same thing, heres what you do, start taking a vitamin b complex liquid under the tongue and swallow it, start taking 5,000 IUs of vitamin D-3 liquid, then start taking liquid turmeric extract one time a day for seven days and up that to 2 times a day, then you can go off of your medication slowly on a taper, after you are off it start taking st. johns wort two to three times a day with the other extracts and vitamins,
you should read earth medicine and the complete herb book
amazon.com/Herb-Book-Complete-Published-Cookbooks/dp/0486781445
amazon.com/Herbs-That-Heal-Prescription-Healing/dp/0912845112/ref=pd_sim_14_1?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0912845112&pd_rd_r=98CVX8HRJB2NXTAXXAD2&pd_rd_w=9fMuC&pd_rd_wg=crg2j&psc=1&refRID=98CVX8HRJB2NXTAXXAD2

Read some fiction to get started, Frank Herbert and Glen Cook. That's to get you interested in reading, then you can go to town, there is so much available for free its boggling. Holla Forumslacks and the /pdf/ boards, you can find a lot of books simply by searching " 'title' archive.org pdf" and much more simply on project gutenberg.

Marshall Mcluhan if you want to understand medias effects
Evola if you want to understand the things that Mcluhan refers to as being lost in western people
Montaigne for a look at one of the first modern thinkers
H.G Wells for speculation
Yevgeny Zamyatin for the grandaddy of dystopian fiction
B.F Skinner and John Taylor Gatto in tandem to compare/contrast how education is being handled
Zbigniew Brzezinski to find out whos pulling Obamas strings.

Keep an open mind about things.

HG Wells was a futurist, his predictions are based on the visions for the world that the elite want to manifest, brave new world is the blue print
newscientist.com/article/dn17082-five-futurist-visionaries-and-what-they-got-right/
archive.is/k8d8a
smithsonianmag.com/ist/?next=/arts-culture/many-futuristic-predictions-hg-wells-came-true-180960546/
archive.is/9mdWb

Thanks for the insight, he is not one of my strong suits.

I never knew there were so many medical experts right here on Holla Forums

For decades the experts told us that Freudian talk therapy was the solution to every mental problem. Now they tell us Freudianism is voodoo. Expert consensus has been ridiculously wrong in the past, and in the future, the current consensus will inevitably be revealed to be ridiculously wrong about a lot of things.

If you don't want to dose yourself with poorly-understood mind control drugs on the say-so of a system whose incentives all line up on the pro-drug side, more power to you.

A lot of people ITT are talking about low energy and apathy.

You know what fixed that shit for me? Coffee. I drink 10 cups of strong coffee a day. Though in the 1950s, this much coffee wasn't uncommon.

For other people that would give them a damn heart attack. For me, it brings me up to average so I can get out of bed in the morning.

Going for runs brings up my energy past average. But if you're in the hole, that comes later. It's pleasant to do, and it can fix your life.

Just try the damn coffee.

And don't forget to fucking sleep. Every animal that has a brain needs to sleep. If you stop sleeping for a few days, you die. Sleep isn't optional. Don't neglect it.
The reason why sleep is so important is that during normal brain function a bunch of neurotoxins are produced by your brain and they stay there until they're "filtered out". But no animal on Earth has the ability to filter them while conscious. You can only do so when asleep.
If you don't get enough sleep, your memory and attention span will be significantly affected by these pilled up neurotoxins.

I can tell you that I completely neglected sleep during the edgy "don't listen to your parents" phase. As a result, I don't remember almost anything that I learned from 8th to 11th grade. I was a complete zombie and didn't even realize it. 3 years of my life wasted.
After realizing the importance of sleep, in just a few months I went from being a student who "got by" to actually having good grades.

If I ask you what time you go to bed at and you can't answer, that means that you're not running at your full mental capacity, because a good sleep schedule means that you go to bed and wake up at the same time every day note: the latter comes 100% naturally if you meet the former for a couple of weeks. Important: the amount of time you sleep is a useless metric since it varies so much from person to person, it can be anywhere from 6 to 10 hours depending on your age and genetics and that's why you only hear the "8 hours a day" meme on TelAvivsion

Notice: cellphone screens and PC monitors emit certain wavelengths which your brain interprets as daylight, making you not feel sleepy when you should. Adding to this, the menthol flavor of toothpaste and also (((fluoride))) makes you more alert and less sleepy. Brush your teeth after dinner, not before bed or you can just use a kiddie toothpaste

If you feel tired, go to fucking sleep. It doesn't matter if it's in the middle of the day. Even if you're in school, just grab your backpack and use it as a pillow. Even 15 minutes of shallow sleep can make a huge difference in concentration.

wikipedo:
>Sleep (((debt))) results in diminished abilities to perform high-level cognitive functions. [Studies] have demonstrated that frontal regions of the brain i.e. those responsible for memory and attention span are particularly responsive [to a bad sleep schedule]

random Huffing Paint article (huffingtonpost .com/entry/seattle-school-start-times_us_57b4cb05e4b0fd5a2f4102a8):

Fun fact: sea mammals sleep with only half their brain at a time, allowing them to go to the surface to breathe

I'm pretty confident that lack of sleep is responsible for the "ADHD epidemic"

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user, I solved my IBS completely using something called SBO's. They are a type of probiotic that are much more potent than they typical lacto strains. They kill anything bad that is living in your gut/intestines, etc.

I wouldn't have believed it myself if I wasn't living proof. Now I can eat whatever I want again like a normie. But I still keep a healthy diet just because I have learned too much to go back.

There's a lot more info than this to learn but I find that people punish me when I give away the answers maybe because they don't like to learn that they are wrong, I don't know. I want to help but I don't like get shut down for trying to.

Anyways this isn't about me it's about you - if you want help and want to improve your situation I will point you to the websites that contain all the info that I used to heal myself. You might have to go into the archives (2011-2013) since it's a solved problem and the bloggers have moved on to other things (like making money from their readers).

drbgani malpharm.blogspot.com/
www.freeth eanimal.com
www.perfec thealthdiet.com

Good luck user, I hope you find some peace.

Forgot the (you)

See: f.lux and redshift, great programs

See: making your own toothpaste. I simply dissolve iodized salt into water and brush with that, my dentist compliments me every time, been doing this for over 5 years.

Very much agreed. I just listen to my body and sleep when I am tired and wake up when I am rested. But I do have to add that there is a lot that goes into sleeping well that isn't directly related to sleeping. For example, being able to breathe well at night, which is a byproduct of having a good airway size, is very important. This is linked to your craniofacial development. Most people have poor development these days. Also, how well you digest your dinner so that you don't have reflux at night also matters.

Needing coffee to have energy is a sign of something wrong , coffee should be a supplement not a necessity

This is good advice. Add in some bone/gelatin broth too.

Anyone here happen to deal with Akylosing Spondilitis? I've had it since I was in my early teens and it just fucking destroys me in the shoulder and neck area, preventing any real meaningful sleep. I use over the counter stuff and coffee to try and ease the pain, but I think I've just grown an immunity to their effects (or they never helped to begin with, I'm not sure anymore) and I'm not really sure what to do at this point.

THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Children under 10 are supposed to be hyperactive, it would be a problem if he weren't. Please don't let him drug the kid. Tell him how all school shooters were on meds

Don't just go cold turkey, it could seriously damage your health. Ask your doctor at what rate you should ween it off

But seriously find a good doctor who knows his shit and has both a formal education in medicine and knowledge of alternative-medicine (read non jewish medicinal practice). If your doctor just wants your shekels he'll fuck you over.

Can anyone attest to any nootropics as an alternative? I just started on piracetam, but I'm not sure what to expect in terms of benefits vs long-term use.

Nigga, I'm fine. Physicals come back perfect.

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Take 20g of MSM a day (start at 1g and add 1g a day until you hit 20g). Make sure it's manufactured in the USA and not CHYNA, OptiMSM is good. Might want to combine it with a Vitamin C source. Try drinking a 1-3 tablespoons of ACV a day mixed with water or fresh apple juice (I use bragg's personally, also you can't really taste it if you mix it with fresh apple juice).

Since you've had it so long I don't know if you have irreversible damage or not but it should help somewhat.

Jewish bullshit, that's what nootropics are, the racetams are not worth the money. You'd be better off using microdoses of LSA, LSD, DMT, and other psychoactive substances or using modafinil/nictotine at the lowest dose possible to induce positive effect.

Nicotine patches work well with coffee and are pretty cheap. There's no real downside as long as you don't get addicted to the nicotine (don't use large doses).

I just do snus, much cheaper.

Not very good for your gums though, less convenient too. The price isn't all that different if either, 120 patches lasts 120 days unless you're using as much nicotine as a chain smoker.

What are the side effects for you? Anyone else have experience with Celexa/Cipralex? I got a pack of these from my doc last Friday and have been staring at it ever since, not knowing whether I should take it or not. It's for my Social Anxiety and depression

((perfect)).

I wonder what amazingly healthy and ubermensch population they base those numbers on?

Remember one thing lad: when the entire population is untermensch, there is no reliable control variable to test your numbers against. Plain and simple fact is that you should have enough energy to buttfuck the entire world without needing coffee. See: Donald Trump

The cancer risk associated with smokeless tobacco is untrue. Many of the studies reference the same data that is flawed.

"The bottom line is that there is very little evidence that smokeless tobacco use is associated with any cancer". "Lee and Hamling also calculated how smokeless tobacco use might have changed cancer deaths among American men. In 2005, 142,205 men in the U.S. died from the 7 cancers associated with smoking. If no American men had ever smoked, there would have been only 37,468 cancer deaths, so 104,737 were directly attributable to smoking. Using the RRs above, Lee and Hamling calculated the number of cancer deaths that would have occurred if all smokers had instead used smokeless tobacco. The number attributable to smokeless tobacco would have been 1,102, which is only 1.1% of the deaths currently attributable to smoking". -Dr. Brad Rodu
rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2009/08/cancer-risks-from-smokeless-tobacco-use.html
bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1741-7015-7-36

What the fuck is up with scandanavians and snus?

Same thing as southerners and dip. Its a source of nicotine thats part of their culture

packing tobacco in a little pouch and stuffing it in your lips goes back to the Vikings?

Care to elaborate? I've been on effexor for about a year now, and I don't remember how I used to be off it.
I've noticed I haven't cried or even really gotten upset for an unsettling amount of time.
I'm never happy either, just flatline, no emotion.

Then why do these things seem to help me out? Awfully strange for a drug that supposedly doesn't do anything. And if we accept these risks as true, what's the alternative? Have terminally fucked brain chemistry and remain constantly, terribly depressed and useless? I can't help anyone if I can't come up with the willpower to eat.

Just quit being a faggot.
Very few people have actual chemical imbalance, REALLY depression where they can't get out of bed or eat. Maybe you are one of those people but most people on antidepressants aren't. Have you tried making lifestyle changes? Be honest. I used to be on all kinds of pills, SSRI's, benzos and shit for anxiety. The reason I was so anxious wasn't because of some chemical fuck up in my brain, it was because I was lazy, underemployed, and had atrophied my social skills from sitting in front of a computer all day. Now I work hard, go to school, exercise, eat less bullshit and SURPRISE I'm not an anxious wreck anymore.

Can't do much when you can't eat, but did my best, and tried revising my lifestyle prior to getting on medication (I hate taking drugs), and that did very little. I quite literally got a life back from taking these revolting little pills, and once I had it back, managed to further improve my position. I've tried going off them for a few months, and that's been disastrous.

But if these side effects are true, and they seem to be, then I need an alternative other than "quit being a faggot". I quit being a faggot two years ago, and that did next to nothing.

The problem is the dependence of our society on SSRI's, not the use of them. Seems like it worked in this case. In other cases, it's wrong to throw prescriptions at a problem and hope it goes away.

i take a MAOI Nardil and it actually does help quite a bit the only problens are weight gain which i loose when i lower my dose and lethargy and tiredness which i counteract with modafinal. they rarely prescribe Nardil likely because it actually works it was made in the 60s so i imagine less jews on its production as well

i was on SSRI's for awhile they did nothing.

Sucks to hear mate. But don't let the minimal damage that these drugs do, allow for the creation of an excuse system.
In other words, don't fall into a victim complex. That is a never ending cycle of shit. If you can imagine it happening, then you are capable of making it happen.
What you need to change, are the methods you use to accomplish your social goals.

Often times, the thing we are lacking in our social lives, is the confidence in ourselves, and confidence in our approach / method. When you have the confidence back thanks to your new methods of engaging, you will have access to more brain power which will allow for more wit and spontaneity.

will do.

Weird, I went there, but I can't find an r9k board. Is the whole site a form of r9k??

this
I remember a while back, I learned to combine meditation and rage. I felt like it was enlightenment through rage - A very powerful feeling.
There are two feels - The Gondola Feels, and the Rage Feels. Use both wisely anons.

This. Indeed sleep is important. Working out will make it easier to sleep.
But I will say, that I did 14 days without sleeping, and the record is 11 - 17 days. But faggoty Guiness Book stopped holding competitions. Pussies.

I just downloaded Flux. I can feel my eyes relax in literally seconds…. A.FUCKING.MAZING.MANG.

Nootropics are fucking stupid. Do a little research, and find out what the precursor building blocks of important neuro transmitters are. Then consume that.
IE
I used to have TMJ - Teeth Clenching at night. Took me a few weeks, but I eventually realized it was all b/c I had low Magnesium. Mg is used by the body to release nerve fibers.
I bought a sports bottle, and carefully squirted reacting pure magnesium and water onto my mandibular muscles. Don't get reacting MG on your teeth, it will eat holes in teeth.
Did this for a few weeks, and I've never had a problem since.

TLDR - Don't get drugs which turn functions on and off. Get the precursors for shit your need, and your body will work out the rest. & no, vegetable won't solve all your problems b/c most soil is nutrient deficient.

I have some undergraduate level knowledge and what goes down in the pharmacological research for SSRIs.

So basically the good "doctor"s can't actually cut open humans, even though ironically the people they end up making might as well be cattle they could cut up, but I guess that misses the point.

Anyway they have to use little beasties instead, almost always mice. Now mice are easy to cut up, and its easy to understand their instinctive behaviours, so from a purely positivist perspective, its easy to gauge a baseline.

The cornerstone method of testing the efficacy of an anti-depressent on a rat is the FORCED SWIM TEST

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioural_despair_test

or BPT, and remember goyim you aren't SUBJECTS you are PARTICIPANTS hehehe

Now the obvious problem is the blatant anthropomorphizing, and gauging instincitive behaviours to understanding solving complex human problems.

But rate of reaction for drugs has a huge impact: the method it goes into the system, the form, and the site. Our little beastie friends get invasive treatment: They get needles and tubes going directly into the regions of the brain: all trial and error until they can prove their theorized behavioural condition.

This method of activation is VASTLY different from consumer ingestion of the drugs.

They also publish papers stating the effectiveness of these rat experiments, as they inject DIRECTLY into the site. thus they get to lie through omission: say the drug works on the level of whatever site is in question, but in reality for the human subject, the drug is in their entire system. The method of administration effects the drug reservoir in the body. The researchers can't study this, they can't control this. You can't control how it would happen in the human body, the drug has to be approved first, released, people have to die, and then tweaks have to be made: reactions to proteins in human bodies have to then be accounted for ad hoc. Sort of like releasing software and finding out you have all of these compatibility issues because you only tested on one platform.

Anti-depressants typically activate a protein which tells neurons to activate DNA to transcribe new proteins to do then do the Nuerotransmitter shit, this is second messenger. Second messenger is dangerous, remember how now humans have this shit in their entire body? The researchers only measure the effects on the rats at the level of the site in the brain – incredibly specific –, and only for a couple of days to find the behavioural effects they need. But you have now all of these chemicals that have the potentiallity of telling your DNA to do shit that even your doctor doesn't have the research to know what the fuck is happening to you.

Oh yeah and I mentioned rate of ingestion, well they study the rats for a couple of days: "oh the rat swam better the next day" meanwhile humans typically take 3 weeks to show signs of "improvement". Not only are humans complex, but the difference in the way the chemical is interacting with them is complex: more areas in the brain are being exposed, and these areas obviously interact. More is happening at the level of the brain than there is research to even know.

Are you saying that SSRIs methlyate DNA? Is this the "second messenger" you speak of?

Most people understand that music affects their mood, and yet they'll listen to sad piano and hardcore metal daily. If you listen to happy music instead, guess what will happen? You'll be happier. Music is a drug so powerful that it has a direct, instantaneous effect on your emotions, treat it as such

Here's something to get you started:
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhoUwJDaA2pkH0EWpztRXGqpA49C9BBcp

pic of the playlist in case jewtube account gets deleted

and listening to fag music makes you suck dick

Try not to laugh at me or think that I'm insane (as my experiences may help you too), but I experienced what I thought was a bout of depression, and it was really quite strange. Not only did I have the typical, pessimistic outlook on life shared by other depressed persons, but the oddest thing was that often I would cry for no apparent reason. Either I would look at myself in the mirror and burst into tears without even knowing why, as if I was in a bad mood, but all of a sudden my tears started flowing and my chest gave way without my feeling like there was an apparent reason. It was as if I'd notice something, and then feel something slightly sad, and then my body would send very strong waves of sadness shortly afterward, without my actually being that sad.

It wasn't until later, on Holla Forums (about a year ago) that someone started a thread about the occult, and the topic of tulpas was brought up. I realized that I had been focused on a particular character that I conjured in my daydreams for a long time. Unlike most imaginary people occurring fantasies, I held this character's essence constant throughout my fantasies. Like, I would say "that same girl I thought of in the last scenario, now she looks like this and has this new relationship and set of circumstances…"

So, it was quite accidental, but what ended up happening is that I had made a tulpa by simply keeping an intent that the person I'm imagining is the same throughout all my fantasies. She eventually came into being as a living person in constant astral projection, able to exist on both the astral real-time and astral planes. Therefore, it was actually the sadness of another person that I was experiencing, namely a tulpa whose parent didn't even know she was there.

I wonder if any other anons in this thread have experienced something similar.

It's like you want people to kill themselves.

Holy shit you're right. Favourite part is at 2:40.

I like how everyone here has been diagnosed with (((mental disorders))) and a lot have had experiences with (((meds))) nearly killing them. Oh well, I'm sure it's just a pic related

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I'm not surprised.

i'm on pristiq/effexor (100mg) right now (have been for 2 yrs), how do I drop this shit without becoming an hero??

So you don't even know about IDs.
Please just go back whence you came.

Has nothing to do with the chemical and everything to do with the mother being mentally unstable to begin with.
Autism is caused by a deficit in maternal warmth, a dirty little secret that is covered up due to pressure from feminist lobbyists, in the same way as homosexuality stopped being called a disorder due to pressure from homo lobbyists.
Children abandoned to orphanages have a massively elevated rate of autism.

Dodged a bullet there, I guess.

OP is probably Sinead Mccarthy.

I've taken quite a few anti-depressants and that one was the worst and most bizarre. Not even sure how to explain it, but I threw them away after three days. Just terrible shit

"Autism" – aside from severe cases – is mostly bullshit anyway and an excuse to dope kids. It's creativity and perfectionism at its core. The severe cases are just retardation.

Wut, Effexor is one of the more benign SSRIs out there.

What do you recommend for ADHD?

Maybe you should look it up instead of asking strangers

ssristories.net/school-shootings/
archive.is/glPSt

Antidepressants aren't a cure for depression. They're there to suppress the more extreme mental states, like suicidalness. Of course they're gonna fuck you up if you use them long term, because all you're doing is putting a bandaid on the problem.

If you have chronic depression, you are screwed big time, because you have to be on those meds constantly, and you develop tolerance to them so you need progressively stronger medication over time.

Psychiatrists don't know how to cure depression, which is why they hope it goes away on its own. Meds are just there to keep you from killing yourself during that time.

effexor has an extremely short half-life. if you quit cold you'll get bad SSRI discontinuation like the brain zaps.

if you're taking regular effexor, switch to prozac (very long half-life) and slowly taper down that.

if you're taking effexor ER, just open the capsule and empty out a few of the pellets inside. every other day or so empty out a little bit more. hopefully after a few weeks you'll be down to nothing.
if you get brain zaps at any time, try the prozac thing instead.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidepressant_discontinuation_syndrome

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teva_Pharmaceutical_Industries

about half the drugs they make are psychotropic.

well, i have add so i cant really learn without dopamine raising drugs anyways.
But im learning to get new things to do rather than to get high on it anyways.
That dopamine rush is just like icing on the cake.
Still, no anti depressant pill is as effective as cannabis for me.

Like most mental illnesses, it requires a change in the lifestyle of the patient. Not much a doctor can do about that.

Tell your kike doctor that you want to quit bring your kippa, he'll instruct you on how to wean it off. If he doesn't because he's a kike, you could try seeing a holistic doctor or, you know, use the fucking internet. Some drugs you can quit in a week, others can take months. But don't just go cold turkey if you have no idea what you're doing, withdrawal symptoms can be extremely dangerous

ITT:
Christcucks with their usual anti-medicine crusades.

Goys don't trust medicines,are you sick? A prayer will save you. Pls donate to your local Church.
P-Pls
G-goy?

I swear to kek, if there's any solance in this debacle of the West is that this fucking cuck religion of Christianity is dying.

not necessarily. I hear the term "Biochemical cascade". As far as I know it is happening at the level of the neurons DNA though.

you fags should know that op is posting Holla Forums pepe's so take his words with a fistful of salt.

I thought it was Pepe on Prozac

I heard suicide helps

Anyone on Vyvanse?

yeah, i've tried a few times to get off it, going cold and getting half doses, it fucks with me and the brain zaps are so bad I can't function properly

I wonder if I can replace any of them with nicotine

what was that method if you don't mind me asking?