Thoughts?

2nd referendum petition over 3 million signatures, has potential to reach double the signatures of those who actually voted.
Is this pro-democratic or anti? Throwing toys out of the pram at the result or logical observation on FPTP and turnout?
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

Other urls found in this thread:

socialistworld.net/doc/7529
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json
mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fears-new-brexit-vote-petition-8286529
facebook.com/oliver.healey.3/posts/1351108038239991
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

I did complain about the result, but i haven't signed this petition. Just a little context.

The losing side didn't get what they want so now they're trying to get a "do-over".
It's undemocratic and just a generally low down move on their part.

Undemocratic and is making the remain camp look much worse in my opinion.

Why Socialists would be for remain is beyond me as there are many reasons why leave is a better choice.
socialistworld.net/doc/7529

Also with things like pic related happening one really has to ask how many people who signed are actually from the UK?

Are the terms not fair? 52% of a 72% turnout was only 2 million people, in a nation of 66 million that doesn't seem fair? Do they have a point?

Yes it is fair. It's not the fault of the brexiters that many people abstained from voting.
Don't try to pretend that this is a reasonable proposal. The fact is, if you choose not to vote, you don't have a voice, simple as that.

Good point, pic would come under fraud I believe. I was for remain because I feel leaving wouldn't give a climate for revolution, and so reform, whilst undesirable, would be preferable. But that's neither here nor there now.

I don't agree with it either, just playing devils advocate to further discussion.

I see. Fair enough.

motherfucking hilarious.
no need for 2nd referendum for out of eu, just need 2nd referendum for scot and north irish out of uk.
can't wait to see britain dies for british's stupidity. rose from england and made everywhere including scot and ireland its colony, and now it's time for them to return those they plunder. i call it a fair play.

This really is pathetic
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json
Vatican city only has a population of around 451……

Undemocratic, unnacceptable.

They need to respect the Democratic Process..

and don't get me started on London Exit please..

Pathetic. Fucking pathetic.

We lost. It sucks, but we only have ourselves to blame. Young people DIDN'T FUCKING VOTE. Shaming tactics and bullying about xenophobia GAVE BREXIT CAMP MORE SUPPORTERS.

The kind of people signing this petition should have gotten off their arses and voted instead of sitting around sniping at random people on twitter with smug, condescending tweets. Just as ignorant if not more so that the brexit lot.

1. This was written months in advance of the referendum and no one cared. It's very telling that it's suddenly exploded in popularity thanks to asshurt remainers.
2. No, it's anti-democratic as fuck. It's literally "keep voting until you get the right answer" tactics that would make Brian Cowan proud.

The night before the referendum everyone was happy enough with polls indicating that remain would win by a similar margin.

The Brexit campaign was based on lies though, they have no right to claim the moral fight ground. If they had lost, Farage et al would still be fighting for another referendum

The remain campaign was also (and still is) based on lies. There is no media outlet, campaign group or party in this country that wasn't lying through the teeth to get what they wanted. However the EU-apocalypse team are still at it.

yeah and Farage is an idiot and should be ignored

ask yourself if you personally would have been ok with another referendum had the results been reversed, and realise you may just be a hypocrite

It's pragmatism not hypocrisy, I guess you think that a popular revolution is 'hypocritical' for not adhering to what bourgeois democracy says.

Honestly? I would have been. But then, I don't like democracy, and this whole result (50/50) is exactly why.

You're a retard.

Drink bleach

Eat shit, useful idiot for the fascists

You are the useful idiot.

Good luck on the leftist revolution after handing power to the far right

Last I checked the same regular-right are in power as was before the referendum.

Boris is a populist demagogue and UKIP will fold back into the Tories, now even more right wing

He isn't, people only call him populist because he backed the leave campaign (because leavers are all xenophobic nazis amirite?).

He's neo-liberal as fuck and barely more right wing than Cameron.

Considering Marie Le Pen didn't ask for a second vote immediately after FN failed in France, same deal with the austrians, I think leftists should also keep their spergs in check.

Sign it. I voted leave and I signed it. Might as well fuck the system about as much as possible.

Hahaha
Fears Brexit vote petition HACKED with thousands of fake signatures after breaking 3 million barrier -
mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fears-new-brexit-vote-petition-8286529


Petition for second referendum was started by Brexit activist who was expecting a narrow remain victory.
facebook.com/oliver.healey.3/posts/1351108038239991

to be fair not just trolls are being fraudulent with this petition see

Also how is what is happening hacking?

Why bother petitiong for another referendum? The government is under no legal obligation to follow the result of the vote, they'd be better off putting pressure on their MPs to ignore the referendum. They are anti-democratic AND retarded.

In that case, the government is under no legal obligation to follow the first.

Yes that's my point. Parliament is already far more EU friendly than the voting public, it's just plain stupid of them to ask for another referendum which they could and probably would lose when they can just pressure their MPs to ignore this referendum entirely.

The petition is a social media snowball for doing exactly that.

Fuck the UK. I'm glad they are out of the EU.

This.

10/10 argument lad. Absolutely amazing. I don't think I've ever heard a more convincing argument.
*Slow clap.