Anarchocapitalism

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And neither do libertarians.
I also hate most left-anarchists, but happen to also believe it to be the best political ideology.
Read Ericco Malatesta and Mikhail Bakunin.

Mostly because I'm not an insane lunatic.

there is no such thing as anarcho-communism. communism cannot exist without an extremely robust state to force everyone to redistribute their wealth against their own interests.

I'm an Anarcho-syndicalist

You are on the 4th step

Holy shit why is this so accurate. 9th step for me.

You should really take that next step user. Read The Leuchter Report.

Alternatively lurk Holla Forums for a few months and accrue images like these

No one does, user. But you don't need a welfare state for that. If we left capital development alone - which means not taxing everyone by half his income - we would've eradicated poverty by now (at least poverty in any meaningful sense). Why am I so sure of that? Because, in the last two hundred years, poverty was virtually eradicated in the Western world, and that was only due to capitalism (what's left of it, anyway). Meanwhile, the countries that did create huge redistributionist schemes all remained shit-tier, unless they already reached the level of capital development where they could get away with redistribution. Such is the case with Sweden. It used to be close to laissez-faire in the seventies, that's why it's so rich that it can keep up its welfare state (for now).

Think about this: Three hundred years ago, poverty meant starving to death after . Nowadays, you can have a television, internet access, three thousand calories of food a day, heating, warm water to shower with every day, vaccination against some of the most common lethal diseases, and still be counted among the poor.

Pics related are how the government created the healthcare crisis in the first place.

Walter Block literally wrote an entire book about it. The Privatization of Roads and Highways. You might wanna check it out if you're that bothered about roads.

The two examples I can think of are Chile under Pinochet, and Spain under Franco. Both were authoritarian to purge the leftists and then went back to being somewhat liberal. That's not an impressive record by any means. Most authoritarian regimes, especially those, that keep their ways, breed nothing but degeneracy. Look at any communist dictatorship, but the Nazis also qualify (Pius XI and XII condemned them), as do most Western democracies in times of war. Great Britain riled up the people so badly, you had priests calling for the Kaiser to be executed by throwing him into boiling oil.

Know who is? The state. It's sitting on literally thousands of doomsday devices and experimented with LSD and sensory deprivation tanks just a few decades ago. Nowadays, it's funding genocidal militias in the Middle East.

Nice job confirming you are absolutely ignorant about history.

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what's wrong with this?
implying you dont need autism to browse this board unironically
PROJECTION
what the fuck does this even mean?
where is this bad?
3 more years
just a concocted label used by low-IQ betas as a derogatory statement
how is this bad?
how is this bad?
it didn't

m,m,

Have some more

I think you misunderstood the image. It's shown as painful to go down the steps because the path to truth is painful.

because

this little area seems a a tad bit contradictory to your statement, but whatever, I'm paranoid.

Seriously? Trump is a plebeian, the alt-right didn't exist before GamerGate, and this entire thing was obviously invented by someone who didn't care about politics until two years ago.

And I'm not even an atheist anymore. I also posted ironic nazi memes since I was fifteen. That old Holla Forums-tier.

I don't care that much if the Nazis killed one million, three million or six million in Auschwitz. That was one camp out of many, and I think most people didn't even die in the camps. Sure, you can attack the narrative that some Jewish scholars (and commies) have crafted of the holocaust to get shekels from Germany, but I don't see how that's whitewashing Germany.

Hitler had trouble keeping neopagan-larpers in check among his ranks. He committed suicide. Not one, but two Popes thought he was a massive faggot. He permanently foiled any chance of restorating the Habsburg-monarchy. There's a reason why it was roman catholic noble army officers that tried to blow him up.

But hey, I guess he had fancy uniforms, so of course he wasn't degenerate.

I'm pretty sure it was originally a leftist meme trying to be derogatory, but failed horribly and ended up describing the truthful path to Holla Forums almost exactly. So I don't blame you.

Jesus Christ. You act like Holla Forums was invented two weeks ago. It had a history before Trump, you know?

No fucking shit retard, it's obviously referring to people who have come to Holla Forums since 2016.

Wow it's almost like the Nazis had freedom of religion, wow.
I see you missed the recent CIA dump where they admitted to photographing Hitler in South America.
Next.
Because National Socialism was better

cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/HITLER, ADOLF_0003.pdf
bull, this proves that the "hitler was pusssy who committed suicide" narrative questionable at least.

Because Holla Forums can barely spell "libertarian". There is no way they are going to adopt a position for themselves that they can neither spell nor pronounce, even if they agree with it 100%.
The other factor to consider is that Holla Forums is too lazy and apathetic to be political, and resents having /pol threads posted on it, meaning that you will be rejected out of hand simply for posting this shit on the wrong board.

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Then why post it now? I knew Holla Forums since it was first created on halfchan, and that thing was posted in response to me.

Except for Jews, and Jehovahs Witnesses, and all members of the Church that r

I did. Not sure what to make of it, now that I looked it up.

Well, pissing off the Pope is kind of a big deal for the protector of the Abendland.

Better than hundreds of years of tradition? Not a good record for someone who's held up as a friend of tradition and culture. At least admit you're progressives, then.

Trips, but hopefully not of truth. I miss the times when Holla Forums itself could redpill people. It woke me up about antiracism years ago.

You do realize the Reich had Jews in it's ranks, right? Even the SS. Look up Emil Maurice. He was Hitler's best friend and an SS commandant. When it was discovered that Emil had Jewish ancestry, Hitler allowed him to stay in the SS and named him an "honorary Aryan". As for Jehovas Witnesses and others, I have seen no proof that the Nazi regime persecuted them.
Again, showing your ignorance. National Socialism was rooted in German tradition. I could sit here for the next however long and attempt to explain this to you point by point, but it would be much more beneficial to the both of us if you were to watch the first 5 parts or so of The Greatest Story Never Told. If that's too long for you, vid related also does a good job at explaining why NatSoc was better than every other political system.

1) The state is not a singular lunatic
2) Sitting on doomsday devices and not using them disproves your position

It still persecuted them. That is official and not disputed by anyone. The original laws and court verdicts are still around. What you said only means that Hitler was a hypocrite about it.

I have, but something tells me the effort of looking it up would be wasted on someone who doesn't know the Rassengesetze.

It wasn't. It was socialist, anticlerical, racialist, and collectivist. Oh, and democratic. Fucking democratic, and you're telling me they were rooted in German tradition? Because they were against internationalism? You gotta be kidding me.

I've read enough on them to have formed my own opinion by now. Pic related sums it up better than I could. They were influenced by Hussitism, scienticism, and the French Revolution, among other things. That's not traditionalism.

Yes, it's a bunch of lunatics, who infect everyone else with a certain level of lunacy, sometimes more, sometimes less.

Not really. It's like getting a dragon dildo and never using it. You may not be as big of a pervert, but you're still a perv. Likewise, preparing to incinerate millions of people is not as crazy as actually incinerating them, but it's crazier than anything I ever did.

Right, because providing them homes in Palestine while giving them education and training is persecution.
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It was authoritarian you disingenuous kike
HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Now fuck off back to Holla Forums

Poor people will sell their children in anarcho-capitalist society. I am against that so I don't want to be ancapist.

The alternative is corrupt commercial operations like the mainstream media owning and controlling us. Checks and balances keep us out of abject slavery.

You obviously dont know what ancap means.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Hermann_Hoppe
Ancap means you can gas the kikes in your basement and hang niggers from your tree. You just have to catch them tresspassing first

kikes are rich and can hire private military to murder everyone.

You are waaaayyy too late, user.
Holla Forums hasn't got enough people to order a fucking pizza at this point, let alone redpill anyone.

And annulling their marriages with non-Jews, taking away their political rights (including suffrage), firing them from all official positions, prohibiting them from working as lawyers, doctors, and confiscating their fortunes. Among other things. You just have to look at the Rassengesetze and the related ordinances and make your pick, really.

I'll take his official policy over his speeches, thanks. The Nazis had tons of regulations, confiscated businesses and fortunes, they had price ceilings and minimum prices, production quotas… I could go on. It wasn't Marxism, but it was definitely socialism, and socialism - even when it's disguised the way Hitler did it - is progressive.

And democratic. It started out as a democratic movement, and it never left its democratic spirit behind. Or call it ochlocratic, if you want. Might be better because the Nazis didn't care much about democratic procedures, but what they did care about was the approval of the masses.

Wonderful.

Okay, but kikes are weak and PMCs can just kill them and steal all their shekels anyway…
Private military guys' options:

Because I'm not a joke.

I am an anarchocapitalist, but I acknowledge that it isn't possible for the system to work until we have eliminated all the Jews.

Anarchocapitalism would get rid of the Jews. Their power is derived from (((government)))

In theory, maybe. But in practice?

That's too merciful user. We mustn't allow the jews to live or else they will come back and leech on us again.

That's not actually the B.O. of Holla Forums. Even if it were, it wouldn't be a problem.

Their power is also derived from stealing your money when you work for them.

no, you misunderstand me. I was explaining why PMCs wouldnt work for the Jews: it pays more to simply kill them.

Please disregard my post as I realised my error.

Yes I know, I just didn't read it properly so please forgive my ignorance.

I feel stupid for skimming.

Only retards would work for a Jew in an Ancap society. Basically don't sign contracts with them and they lose all power. They have no other survival skills besides manipulation and parasitism.

Jews are nothing without police and military backing them up.

What if the people volunteer to kill them in ancapist society?

Ancap means the land owner makes the rules, so if the volunteers kill a jew and conquer his land, they can basically pardon their own crime of murder

because it doesn't work. no one would give a fuck about people who don't have money and therefore poverty levels would increase so much that we'd end up living in places like the city of Remember ME, where there is a part of the city with just a few inhabitants who are tremendously rich and then a wasteland where most of the population would live in the absolute misery. also, the fact that savage capitalism has taken the word "anarchy" as theirs kind of enrages me because anarchism never had anything to do with capitalism but okay… try… in your terms, anarchocomunism. it's a thousand times better than any form of capitalism.

If I own land but the people want to live on my farm land so I request them to kill the jews in exchange for living on the farm land then will that work?

If "most of the population" is too retarded to build anything then they are basically niggers and deserve to live in misery. If the "few inhabitants who are tremendously rich" are so smart they can build a civ all by themself, they deserve to live in luxury. If the dumb nigger masses let themselves be exploited by rich jews instead of boycotting or straight up killing them, they are dumb niggers and deserve it.
Stop feeding the Jew.

Absolutely! Btw this situation is why people compare ancap to feudalism.

user… you'd live in the wasteland, trust me… "most of the population" have principles and give a fuck about their relatives, if what you want to promote is brutality instead of respect and well being, then… well this is Holla Forums, I didn't expect less, but if this were real life… I'd honestly just ask you to think about what you just said because it's honestly repulsive…

I like to be a lord of my land and to people! People must be loyal to me only and work for me in exchange for something from me. Any disloyal people will be executed by public hanging.

He's probably repulsive irl too. Never mind. If his anarchocrapitalism came to pass his sort would be the first to go 'missing'.

I'm actually laughing at these beta shitheads that pretend to be alpha as fuck just for comedic effect, you're not fooling anyone user, you're a fucking loser in real life, you'd have to be loyal to others and would probably end up hanging in a public square for little to no reason…

agreed applies to him as well if it's not samefag

Well wouldn't it be nice if it's real? Our world is very sick and need to be fixed soon as possible. The traitors are literally killing us by being good goy to the jews. Long time age we used to burn the jews at the stakes.

Most of the worlds population is already living in poverty. What is your preferred society, communism? And btw I am not changing my worldview because it "repulses" you

If you can convince people to follow you then you should be able to do that.

oh my god you must be autistic to have gotten so much wrong

If thats all true then why are you against it? You literally get to hang me for being "repulsive"

Will the welfarism exist in Ancapist society?

It is unlikely but possible. It would have to be funded by charity, or specified in some contract. An employer could make its employees pay a "welfare fee" to take care of retired/disabled workers. A landlord could make tenants pay to feed/house orphans. It would all depend on contracts

as much I think you're repulsive I wouldn't hang you on a public square because I believe you have the right to live even if I disagree with you, that's the difference between you and I, I have a sense of humanity that you seem to completely lack

exactly, we already have a capitalist system, that's why an even more capitalist system would make even more of the world's population live in poverty.

I think if we end the welfarism and aids then it may reduce the poverty.

go back to the middle age…

I am afraid that it's not possible to go back.

i'm sorry you've been led to believe that.

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let me word that out differently so you see that what you're saying is stupid:

"if we stop giving people stuff they need to survive everyone will have what they need"

I wouldnt hang anybody either. Your imagination is filling in a lot of blanks here. Personally I would just like to homestead a small patch of land, which is illegal in USA. I would like to be able to defend myself from burglars without going to prison. Illegal in most states. I dont want to pay taxes towards other people's birth control and drug rehab. Basically I just want to be left alone

I love how Anarchy was pretty much invented by communism (not quite, do some googling if you want to understand) but apparently now capitalists are taking it as theirs and want to basically change its meaning because it sounds cool and stuff…

But I was talking about India, China and Africa…

Do you know what enabling is?

No, what I am saying is that the stupid poor people breed more than they can afford to feed so it's their fault for keeping themselves poor.

maybe you wouldn't but what you're defending is basically letting people do that… and you pay for other people's birth control and drug rehab but you also get paid other stuff, so in the end it's a fair exchange that leads to economical stability not as an individual but as a country, and even as a planet if you will…

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Under ancap you can buy land and turn it into a commune

India, China and Africa are:
India: economically blocked by capitalist countries and stolen wealth and enslaved
Africa: Same as India
and China: not a proper communist regime…

no you can't, if you do you'd have to enslave your people to be able to pay for the land you've bought and for defenses for it, because others WILL try to steal it from you.

So if a guy is poor and hasn't had any children he should be fed and housed?

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If you move somewhere and sign a contract that says "murderers will be hanged" or "thieves will have their hand chopped off" then that is on you. Get your own land, or find a place with more favorable rules. If other people like those rules they should be allowed to live there.
I dont want other people to pay for me, unless I am working for them.

anarchy is inherently capitalist. communism can't exist under anarchy. as soon as someone realises that they can be successful doing something, they can just leave the commune and do their own thing. how are you going to stop them? you don't have a state to enforce any laws you might want to impose on the guy. communism can only exist with an extremely robust state.

see what i mean?

No welfarism for them. I want the white workers on my land only. The white workers will get something from me as long as they works 25 hours per week for me.

Are you saying communists cant defend themselves?

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real ancaps have no problem with this message.

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Difference is, if I leave the USA, I still have to obey their laws and pay their taxes. If I leave someones personal property then I dont owe them shit.

No you don't. Now other countries you move to may insist, but it's free world, right? Just move to one of those ungoverned regions.

lol

Not unless you denounce your citizenship and move to the uncontrolled areas.

you can renounce your citizenship, doofus

To be fair, even in the current world that could easily happen. Would you really take a ride in an unknown dude's boat all alone?

dumbass deserved it

Why are you assuming it's a stranger? And why are you dodging the point?

Do you guys not read each others posts before posting? lol
The US doesnt let you renounce citizenship unless you are a dual citizen btw. But of course you can just pretend to no longer be American, and hope interpol doesnt turn you over

yeah that's not true, bub

Interpol is an agreement between land owners. If you're in a country Interpol operates, that's part of the contract you agree to by moving there. If you don't like it there's lots of ocean for you to sit on. Assuming, of course, you can protect yourself without a government.

Ok buy other citizenship and renounce the USA citizenship.

I'm assuming your friend or relative isnt going to make you suck their dick
What was the point? That you cant sue him afterwards? I've addressed that: if you make a poor decision, you have to deal with the consequences. It IS his boat and he CAN charge you sexual favors as the travel fee. I dont feel bad.

I will as soon as some better place wants to sell me one :) For now the US is my best option.

JFC… just… nvm, y'all fucking retarded… farewell

Wut? US wouldn't allow the ancapist craps to thrive.

aw come on, you're supposed to tell me to 'get woke, child'

you're terrible at being black.

No argument here, you are right.

Source?

Everything below this post is irrelevant.

nevermind travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/renunciation-of-citizenship.html My info was outdated

I am certain that he regretted the decision that he choosen not to buy a gun to defend himself from the gay pirate.

Your post is below, so we should ignore you and keep posting

Natural selection would be in much stronger effect if we were ancap
Imagine how much less rape there would be if instead of prison, you get a bullet

travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/renunciation-of-citizenship.html

If you didn't even take the time to read this before posting with certainty the conditions under which can only renounce their citizenship if met (which you were wrong about) - why should I not think that this is common practice for you in every other area of discussion as well?

I did read it and Ive already admitted I was wrong. Hence "my info was outdated"
Did you feel smug?

I imagine that we make a lot og profits by burning the bodies for power.

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Damn I need to enslave the niggers to plant the coffee plants.

see

hmm look which post came first

I mean thats a nice thought, but most people arent going to invest in that infrastructure… there arent that many rapists, it would take a long time to get a ROI

It doesn't have to be rapists only. There's a lot of murderers, usurers, theives, traitors, habitual criminals etc.

True… actually, we could burn any dead people if they donate their body (cant afford funeral?) or they could sell the rights to their corpse. If burning a body produces $100 of energy, maybe they can get $50 for it

People create private police and order them to shoot the criminals on the sight to take the bodies to the power plant. PROFIT.

That could work. Just make sure there arent too many crimes. People wont be willing to live there if jaywalking means they get shot

You have a good port. Import the bodies from other areas to the area. PROFITS.

I meant point not port. I am tired.

did you? are you? or is this some sort of glow in the dark trick to brainwash us?

Nah just debating for lolz.

You can also do dead pets, roadkill, etc.
Fyi the fat is the part that burns hottest. Don't waste other body parts by burning them. Skin can be leather, hair can be wigs, muscle can be food. Some things like eyeballs can be souvenirs. You could turn fingers and penises into vibrators :)

There's a lot of fat people in USA.

Watch season 2 of the last ship

If the US were ancap you could burn the dead fatties, but as it stands youd go to prison for not having a burning license. Youd also have to give your profits to the IRS. 😞

this is now a political ball gag thread

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Ancapistan doesn't have intellectual property. There are no patents, trademarks or copyrights.
That is part of what the "anarcho" means in anarchocapitalism.

i didn't make the meme, you sperg. i just saved the pic

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that's all i got. i'm out

No I saw you draw it, I know you made all of these last night just to ruin this thread. What a fucking pedophile 👎

that was some good sharing

Literally slippery slope fallacy.

slippery slope isn't a fallacy, tbh

Head, meet sand.

wut
I'm on step 11 but apparently I skipped 7, 8 and 9.

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youtube.com/watch?v=TNVHNGiTS4E

I skipped 6 and 7 personally, but that's only because Trump wasn't running at the time and the alt-right wasn't yet a thing.

That one's pretty funny, I have to admit.

Gotta address those, for educational purposes, though. You made fun of everyone, from what I can see, so you're good.

Muh monopoly. It isn't and never was based on more than people elevating their subjective fears to the status of an objective law.

Well, water isn't a "right". Someone has to provide it to you and these people deserve compensation for their services. Not sure how things are in Nestles case in particular. I don't know if they cause any harm, nor if they're acting as any private actor or if they benefit from cronyism or a mix of the two.

Rothbard was always adamant that you cannot buy people. He ruled that out since he published Man, Economy and State.

Some ancaps sound like that, yes. They're noobs. In truth, there are some good people in government, but they're acting against the incentives, and, well, they're working for the government. I'd like to those working for the private sector.

The actual case against the government is not that the people in it are incompetent. Even if they were perfectly competent, government would be a waste and immoral, and the good people in it would do better work in the private sector.

Same as before. Rothbardian, i.e. orthodox anarchocapitalism does not support slavery. Some ancaps claim otherwise, but some people are always fucking retards.

If that were commonplace, people would stop getting that service, because it's shit. Just make business with a firm that always protects you and keeps the questions for later. Problem solved.

No comment. That's bad.

That doesn't actually prove anything, unless we know what that person is being arrested for. I actually won't complain if the police arrest a murderer. And if the private police arrest someone who was merely swearing in his own home, I will complain, in the other hand. However, whatever would happen, the police of the state would be funded immorally, the private police wouldn't. That does make a difference.

Rly?

Oh boy. Just, just no. A bunch of those are opinion pieces from places such as The Guardian, and one of them, the one from the Mises Institute on the bottom right, is obviously tongue-in-cheek. The guy who assembled this thing missed the sarcasm on that. Talk about irony.

Yes it is…….and yes being a retarded faggot is a problem

We had that several times on /libertry/. A full explanation would take me too long, so here's the abridged version: If you homestead or buy property, you do not get the right to exclude every immission. You are only protected from those immissions that your property doesn't already get into contact with, or that it isn't designed to exclude in the first place. If you buy a house, and someone drives a bulldozer through it or even enters through a window, that's against your property rights. If you can simply hear him as he walks outside, that isn't against property rights, as your house wasn't designed to be soundproof. If you can hear him because he blasts 180db of dubstep at you, then that is against your property rights, because that isn't the kind of immission that your house (or the property it was built on) already came into contact with.

Again, that's the abridged version. It's my own theory, too, and fully developing it would take a major essay.

Kek, but that's disproportionate retribution, and it isn't justified by self-defense either. Self-defense isn't permitted after the damage is done. Retribution is, but it must be proportationate.

During the time when capitalism supposedly ruined everything, the population of Great Britain was three times more than it had ever been in the past. Without capitalism, these people would've starved to death, quite simply. Pictures of the Gilded Age and assorted eras may look disturbing now, but that is proof of only two things: Malthus was right (mostly), and we actually do have it better nowadays. In 1200 AD, people wouldn't be shocked at 95% illiteracy rates and no affordable treatment against cancer, because even the kings were illiterate and doomed if they ever contracted cancer.

This, for one:
But also, that's a violation of a tacit contract. The captain knew that the guy he took on board had the expectation that he could stay on board throughout the trip unconditionally. He knew that, if the guy had been aware the captain didn't share this idea, he wouldn't have agreed to the trip. That's just basic civil law here. You don't even need to know anything at all about anarchocapitalist

If you want to know what anarchocapitalism is actually about, beyond the claims of autistic redditors and shitty strawman-memes, check these out:
All of them are somewhat complete. Read any one of them, and you have a pretty good idea about anarchocapitalism, why people think it could work and why it would be desirable and moral. Neither of them answers all your questions, but then again, no political ideology can be adequately described and defended against every possible objection in just one or two treatises.

I also recommend a really good treatise on economics, one that touches on questions of methodology. And yes, only the Austrian School really publishes them anymore. I'll be open with my "bias" here. I don't think it's really a bias - I did give other schools a chance to convince me - but you be the judge, if you care to study economics, be it formally or as an autodidact. The good thing about methodology is that it allows you to judge for yourself which claims make or don't make sense. It's simply indispensable. Doing economics without a solid methodological foundation is like deadlifting on a soft cushion.

The best economic treatise I know, by far, is Human Action. Man, Economy and State is also extremely good, but I like the former more.

Is there a stable ancapistic country in the whole world?

No, because AnCap is a pipe dream. That's why we make fun of them so much with the political ballgag memes