DNC throws Sanders' platform out

West is the only person with integrity up there.

fucking based. Bernie put him on there knowing full well what would happen, as a fuck you to the dems.

The fuck?

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Christian socialists predate marx

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Christian Marxist here. What in the fuck is this retard talking about?

I mean is it just the whole line about "religion is the opiate of the masses"? You know Martin Luther was an anti-Jew heliocentrist but you don't have to be either of those to be a Lutheran.

Err, geocentrist.

You have to manage at least some level of cognitive dissonance in order to be religious in the first place, so it's not like those contradictions even really matter.

If only there were some sort of general thread for this sort of thing

he's a liberation theologist

Marx was a pretty staunch materialist and it can be difficult to reconcile historical and dialectical materialism with Christian belief since one of the cornerstones of those philosophies is that consciousness is a part of material reality, rather than some metaphysical essence like a soul. It also posits a model for social development that leaves very little room for the divine.

fucking liberals

I came here to laugh at reformists.

Marx called religion "the opiate of the masses". It would make sense that Marxism wouldn't appeal to Christians for that reason.

Well, how typical.
Good luck Americans. You're going to need it.

This is really the moment of truth for Sanders. His continued support of the Democrats was contingent on those progressive reforms. He either rescinds his support after the convention, or he proves that he was just the sheepdog for the Democrats so many said he was.

That maybe the problem I have with Marxism. There's too much Marx in it.

The game is up, you're deluding yourself if you didn't see this coming from a mile away. This is the same guy who voted for Obamacare and several other porky flavours of the week. His support was never driven by leftists, it was always driven by reddit idpol reactionaries who wore the badge of "socialism" to dupe a few leftists into registering to vote.

This

You knew this would happen.
None of us should be surprised.
What we should be is enraged.

mfw 2016, backing fiery-water

>Marx called religion "the opiate of the masses"

Have you the faintest idea what he meant by that, or do you just know the bourgie "slogan"-version?

Was opium considered bad in terms 19th century?

I actually believe what?

All I said was that the truth of his motivations would be out after the convention.

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What? Not a fan of materialism?

What do you think?

spooks.

No. I just mean that an ideology named after a person seems suspicious to me. I'm pretty ignorant on Marxism but the world is bigger than one mind. I hope Marxism isn't whatever Marx said or thought. That would feel like a religion.

Opiates were regarded as legitimate pain killers and medicines at the time.

This is the full thought:

No, Marxism isn't just Marx. Marx just provided the core of the theory which others haves added on to or developed.

So can one be both religious and a Marxist?

He would have alienated too many people. Already, people sympathetic to him are turning on him because they feel his refusal to step down is hurting Hillary and they're terrified at Trump.

Now, you may say fuck those people but we need them. It just wouldn't be smart for the movement. Best thing he can do is offer pittance and support Hillary while building on a larger movement to put more Bernie-style politicians into the Democratic Party.

So much has been accomplished already, let's not forget this. Hillary may well lose in November and the worst thing that could happen is for people to blame that on Bernie.

Yes, technically.

Though its understandable if some people, like West, think the two are incompatible. It would depend either on your interpretation of materialism or how important you think materialism is to Marxism.

There is, for instance, no real conflict between Marxist critique of capitalist political economy and religion.

Oh, okay. Thank you for the inf.

Youtube link please ? I want to share this.

Sup CTR

It's from the 9 and a half hour video at the end here:

There's a difference between Opium and opiates. Opium is a specific substance, opiates cover a variety of drugs including morphine, smack and oxycodone. I read that Marx was referring to religion as a painkiller rather than a life-destroying drug. I think it can be either, neither or both.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiate

Thanks to mystery webm guy, I uploaded this to Youtube with boosted sound. Share this to trigger establishment shills.

Cornel West Abstains from Passing Democratic Party Platform – Distances himself from Dem Party

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I don't even know who Cornel West is, but he seems awesome.

you couldn't include the part where that lady shouted at the Clinton appointees for supporting fracking?

See the full quote here:

They always supported these things though. They will never compromise on major issues, if that's what you expected. They have no incentive to do that.