The Working Class Question

This.

Well, economic policies are a sensitive subject. One needs to be wary.

Agree but its important to understand that in any economy debate , John Stuart Mill theories ,Homo economicus ,Game theory are seen as Dogma and biblical truths. >>>Holla Forums likes to mentally jerk off with their outdated theories but most of them never debate actual economist.

Statistics can be interpreted to push a narrative and in my opinion most studies are biased so is absolutely hard to have an actual economic debate about policies or models when our phiolosophies differs in the spiritual vs the material as the end goal.

I mean at least they're not neets by choice. I don't care if you're 100% Bavarian phenotype if you choose to be a neet you're going to get gassed.

Value system - political beliefs - economic beliefs

This is how it should be. In both Capitalist (mainstream) and Marxist views, the opposite is the case. I think that should tell you something.

The robots will replace them and we should uplift our entire race through eugenics so that there is no such thing as the working class within 2 generations.

You don't need to do anything. If automation takes over, then everything will become cheaper and cheaper until it is free.

Basically, real life will become like the internet. You don't pay money to shitpost, why should you pay money for a loaf of bread or a ride across town?

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You understand economics at a communist level.

The logical endpoint of Democracy is Communism. Politicians know they can gain power through promising the masses free shit.

I have nothing against captialism, as long as it serves the interest of the nation and not (((globalist corporations))).

So what's your problem with post scarcity? Are you directly paying money to Jim every time you post?

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You are confunding bipartisanship with economic models. The whole reason were in the situation we are now its the fact modern Nations are nation tax collectors except Switzerland .

Communist wants to abolish the right to own private property, how the fuck the end goal of democracy could be ending the right of property.

National Socialist wants to property as a profitable possesion, but in the end is not completely against private ownership but against “Jewish” “opportunism.

This is a fucking meme , if we ever get to the point where most humans are useless , they will just make machines to replace us as consumers in order to keep the hamster running.

National Socialist wants to property as a profitable possesion,

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National Socialist wants to END property as a profitable possesion,

Cant refute anything Chaim?

Short term, automation should be done gradually. If half the population is out of a job we're all fucked.
Long term they should be moved to a different sector of the economy. We're nowhere close to manual labor being useless, so there's still useful work they can do.

The logical endpoint of Democracy is one Jew ruling everyone, not Communism. Communism would require the ruling class to lose their companies, which they would not allow to happen.

That's why you're getting Communism you stupid fuck. One jew ruling everyone is your delusion.

Reminder Strassers = Communist plants funded by Wall Street and that these threads are always started by Holla Forums.

You are a crypto-communist who doesn't understand economics.

People work to live, they don't live to work. Shitposting is free, why isn't bread free? Because its production isn't automated to the same point as servers.

Humans will never be useless to other humans. We build content, show off, and socialize with each other. That is worth at least some modicum of effort. And people, freed from the requirement to produce real goods, will continue to make that effort.

Typical lolberg

So basically your arguments are not economic necessity and distribution, but having power over other people? The nose is starting to show

More manpower for the military.

You are a crypto-communist who doesn't understand economics.
People work to live, they don't live to work. Shitposting is free, why isn't bread free? Because its production isn't automated to the same point as servers.
Humans will never be useless to other humans. We build content, show off, and socialize with each other. That is worth at least some modicum of effort. And people, freed from the requirement to produce real goods, will continue to make that effort.

Are you retarded? what the fuck your personal view of sociology has to do with how markets ,bonds and almost all nations economic sustain themselves?

Wealth cant be destroyed you fucking retard, it goes beyond of producing goods , or what people do with their lives , in our current system is designed in order to facilitate the monopolisation of wealth and economic influence by private ownership.

I'm not even a lolberg you pair of retards , you are just a delusional faggots who havent got a clue about economics . KYS

Where in the living fuck did you get that idea, you blatant fucking man enslaving jew faggot?

Stop making up shit, asshole. This is basic fucking economics. Supply goes up, price goes down. Supply goes up infinitely due to robotic labor, price goes down infinitely due to limited number of humans. Very fucking simple.

WHO DO YOU PAY TO SHITPOST?

Like fucking hell it can't. Go visit a formerly prosperous nation that devolved into communism and tell me you can't destroy wealth. My view of sociology has fuck all to do with the basic economic law of supply and demand. Robotic labor==infinite labor supply, hence anything and everything with labor as a feedstock (read all goods and services) sees their price drop to zero. This is literally the easiest possible economic calculation a human being can make.

Ok, what then? Everyone dies? When will you drooling retards stop treating economy like religion and the purpose of life.

Im not advocating for communism you sub-humannigger , im saying that if we ever get to the point were infinite robot labor supply exists , this advantage will only be in the hands of multinationals and they will use to crush foreign competition and collude with other multionational with the same tech in order to form a monopoly.

Supply and Demmand does not affect Monopolies at all you fucking nigger.

They reproduce whether they have the money to raise their brats or not.

Except the Strassers and Rohm were the real National Socialists, who were betrayed by Hitler to curry favor with the Conservatives and the corporations. It's hard to be a communist when you're fighting them in the streetc like the SA and freikorps did.

Yeah, if the white laborer becomes outdated then we upgrade him through eugenics and don't allow those too stupid to care for themselves to breed.

But if we wipe out niggers and take over africa we can use plenty of bodies to go occupy and homestead the land.

Obviously we won't have to worry about automation shifting the labor market if the white homelands get destroyed by muslims and niggers and kikes, we should defend ourselves by killing them all in self-defense.

Well, can't argue with those digits

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they can become self-sufficient or they can die. if they dont want to do that, they may quality for the military (the standards will be elevated drastically).

Nice try shlomo.

This.

I still live with my folks and we all have our own jobs that help us to get by.

If I could find a place of my own that didn't bleed me to the point where I wouldn't even be able to afford the basic gas & groceries, I would pack up and move in a heartbeat.

forced sterilisation
soldiers, guards, mechanics, teachers, doctors, nurses
death

You do realize that thanks to technology the average NEET has better quality of life than a medieval feudarch, right?

NEETS are parasites who should be hung alongside niggers, spicks, and kikes.

There is your problem. Communists have been saying for the last 30+ years that eventually there will be a "scarcity" of jobs because of robotics and AI. The truth is, the more we have learned about automation the more we understand why humans have to do it in the first place.

Well, we will have a race war and ww3 and technology will be set back several decades in not centuries. When we create the global Aryan imperium afterwards, we will enforce technological backpedaling to the middle ages levels permanently (except for the "wizards" in the tower who will still study technology and colonize space).

Absurd.

You're thinking hundreds of years into the future

He probably won't be fucking wenches all day like a medieval lord would though.

The working class is going to cease to exist if things go right in the next hundred years
As automation starts taking over gene modification will become more prevalent effectively destroying not only the need of the working class but the people who are among it as well
A machine will always be better than a group of workers and society will become disgustingly degenerate if workers are left on some form of basic income program so we might as well eliminate them through gene selection
In the future low IQ humans (and most humans in general) are just going to be unnecessary (they already are nearing that level)

replace niggers with robots but keep everything else

Kek. They will bury you in an unmarked mass grave, like all the million other chumps they don't want to feed anymore.

kill them all. useless plebs

All classes work. Stop using leftist dialectic.

You hear me!?
DEATH!!!

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Some manual labor will always be required. Send them as soldiers to crush our enemies, or as builders into the wilderness of Alaska ( we could easily use a million plus building roads). Or as colonists on habitle planets.

We'll hang you next to the kikes.

Kek. How are you not a kike again?

You don't automate them away? The Amish are doing just fine, full automation is exactly the end result of communism and the extinction of man. It doesn't hurt to be a bit of a Luddite.

Top goy

When Michael Wharton wrote that he dreamed of a world where scientists were kept cloistered and only allowed out one day a year to breach the timeless peace and quiet with their gadgets and gee-gaws he knew it was a satiric fantasy. The genie is out of the bottle, putting it back now would drag us back down to a level of development on par with the dindus and sandrats.

Learning how to make good use of our time and talents will be the endless struggle of a post-happening whitopia. That's the goal, right?

Things a NEET has that medieval monarchs didn't:

* Light and heat on demand.
* Abundant food that doesn't have to be drowned in spices.
* Effective painkillers and anaesthetics.
* Medicine that works.
* Sanitation (= civilisation).
* Instant international communication.
* The ability to travel across land and sea dozens of times faster than any horse or ship.
* The ability to call goods and information out of thin air using the glass genie in his pocket.

I've thought about this, and honestly, the enemy has proposed the most logical solution. Either way, there are several scenarios that I've envisioned:

impossible. we have discussions as to why a civil war would be lost in the US; I can't see a genocide going over any better.

industry provides the means to feed the masses. if we do this, they die of starvation.

Feasible, but incredibly wasteful until we get at least asteroid mining underway.

this is what's actually being done, what with females in the workforce, promoted homosexuality, legalized abortion, and birth control. It's a "hip cool choice" to not have children, so the dumb masses don't have them, and as they drop below replacement figures, you replace them with machines. Simple, clean, forward-thinking, and no one has to go to a death camp, starve to death, waste resources, or even realise that they're being killed as a population.

This final one is the easiest and least wasteful to accomplish with our current technology and anticipates that there still is an interim need for plebian labour since not all industries can be fully automated at the current time.

Remove it through eugenics.

As for supporting it in the meantime that is not a problem. More automation means that it becomes easier and easier to produce the surplus needed to support a dead weight, and as it happens this gain is proportional to the amount of now obsolete dead weight said automation causes.

It is also suppressed by the fact that better automation allows low trained workers to perform task that previously required highly skilled ones. A task that previously required a manual reading of a value, correct transformation and proper weighting of the result can now be performed by a regular Joe because he just connects the thing to the box and sees if the red or green light goes off.

All this said automation is harder than tech fetishists like to pretend and is not going to happen at near the level they want to put on, if nothing else so by the lack of the emerging shortage of the highly intelligent people needed to design, build and maintain these machines. If we took our industry back from China and got rid of the kikes and shitskins we could have full employment for several decades easy.

The reason you don't hear that is because it is another step in preparing people to be slaves. They want to sabotage industry and economy past the levels of Weimar Germany and have people in advance prepared to accept it as some law of nature. It's the same reason they are trying to force this insect eating fad despite farmland growing over from disuse all over the west, "oy this is inevitable goy, just get used to your slave food".

You know, technically speaking, the average NEET has no access to procreation or the ability to continue a family line. Therefore they are fundamentally missing one of the central pillars of life. How can you have a high quality of life, for example, if you're starving? Starving in a golden palace with high speed internet is still starving. So "magically" getting modern day shit is kind of irrelevant.
Whatever my man. Get on that hierarchy of needs. Or just think about it for a few moments. If someone is denied (or is unable to acquire) sex - specifically procreative sex - he's effectively dead. Though he may live to a hundred he won't have any children, so he will die and have no one to continue his genes.

We have an automation thread every month it seems.

Birth control, eugenic programs, promote sane living instead of consumerism, etc.

I'm not your average NEET. If I can't find the perfect 10/10 aryan beauty then I will buy some aryan beauty's eggs and fertilize it inside some currynigger. Sure, my kid won't have a mom but I'll be able to give him the best gift I can: great genetics. From there I can give him everything he needs to succeed continue on my bloodline. I will breed, the only question is if I will find someone I consider worthy of my seed.

Promote the Arts.

By 2032, one in two American children will have Autism. So… I wouldn't worry too much about the robot future. Only 8-9% of US jobs are left in manufacturing anyways. This is going to hit the Chinks hardest. OH yeah and pensions are massively underfunded and I could add like ten other things.

The big one is going to be the replacement of truck drivers as that's a decent and very common job for men. It's their equivalent of secretary. That might happen sooner then most think.

Leftist fucktards imagine they'll tax robots and use the proceeds to give tards an income but that is bullshit. Shit will be everywhere and as such, a commodity not some rich class they imagine they'll be able to target. It's just fucking stupid like everything those cunts say.

If Trump isn't the next President… it's going to be so fucking bad.

Luxury in the world that's coming. Plus, have you see a film lately? Listened to any music? hahaha.

As for writing, over 80% of American households didn't buy a single book last year.

I probably should have prefaced by saying we need to gas the kikes, all the degenerate art is pushed by them.

The working class are the key to our victory has brexit or trump rise told you fucking nothing, if you cucks are the best the west has then let it be fucked by sand niggers, its not worth saving.

Materialist moron. Comforts mean nothing. They just make you weak.

Hierarchy of needs is Jewish as fuck.

Self actualization is jewish?

"Self" actualization is. Psychological "self" is actually the ego. So yes, it is Jewish as fuck. Created by (((Abraham Maslow))).

Sounds like Freudian bullshit to me

These are good examples of why I get irritated when some larper starts waxing poetically about how great pre-industrial life was.

How's the venezuela paradise faggot? Have a sage and gtfo

They'll be used for galactic colonialism and warfare.

By the time we have infallible machines for producing goods we'll be on the final frontier with huge ships that will need a lot of men to work them.

Ye of little faith do not see that our technology is always molding and advancing itself. Men will always be needed for the purpose of containing our great creations.

Kill off all non-white subhuman populations and that ceases to be an issue on earth alone, bring space into the mix and it's even less of an issue.

If anyone here is familiar with Imperium (Yockey) you should also be familiar with the extraordinary introduction by Willis A Carto. He argues against Spengler's damnation of the West and his prediction of its destruction by arguing that if the western man were to reach for the heavens, he would be able to escape this lowly and muddied world (a paraphrase, but I think it's sufficient enough to convey his thoughts in not so many words).