i'm not an incel. i'm perfectly aware it's my fault. i'm a passive, baby faced, lazy manchild.
i see no end in sight. i don't even care that much about sex, the shitty part is that as long as I can remember all i've wanted to do is be a father
for a long time i wanted to kill myself. didn't have the balls tho, so i just wallowed in drug abuse. but over the summer i got really into psychedelics and discovered how to be content in my circumstances. sobered up, went back to school. now i want to learn how to be happy.
how can someone like me ever find anyone? is it even possible?
also general virgin sob story Holla Forumsread (no incels allowed)
I bet you jerk off all day and eat nothing but sugar. Just like the (((kikes))) want you to. Good goy.
Carson Bailey
i never said I was fat, just ugly
Don't eat a lot of sugar actually, can't really afford sugary shit even if i wanted too. My worst vice is chainsmoking like a bastard when I'm tired.
Joshua Gutierrez
you're going to find better answers just engaging in introspection/personal reflection then you are here on Holla Forums, so that's a start. go ask this question to yourself tbh are you using apps/websites like okcupid/tinder/whatever? i think it's not like it used to be where relationships and bonds with people have their originating point of meeting in person or at a bar or in a class or something like they used to, i think a lot of it if not the vast majority of people meet potential partners they will later go on to develop relationships with through social media type things don't take my word for it though, i had one 8 yr relationship but i got too many personal problems and just cut off all ties spontaneously one day (was same day i moved which i had kept a secret as well)
Jaxon Diaz
jesus dude, people eating sugar and being lazy is because of the jews? do you know how retarded you come off to actual people?
Michael Torres
I've tried a couple of those out but I haven't had much luck. Usually I just don't get replies, but the few times I did I would get too anxious about it and stop replying. I think the amount of (completely justified) romantic rejection i've experienced in my life has traumatized the fuck out of me
that sucks man. still, more experience than yours truly
James Lee
did you check to see if you were on Holla Forums or did you come to the wrong board?
David Johnson
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Jackson Jones
damned moneybugs
Colton Evans
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Elijah Rodriguez
eh
Luke Kelly
well you're going to have to overcome that self-sabotage component of your anxiety if you EVER want to actually begin developing an intimacy with somebody. i know that's not easy to do, and it's not particularly helpful advice, but it is true nevertheless. girls don't just fall out of the sky and become interested in you and head over heels crazy for you
Michael Stewart
True. Maybe I'll give them another try here soon. I usually end up jumping back onto those sites every 6 months or so anyway. Thanks for the advice.
Easton Roberts
Was at same situation, wasn't kissless tho. Also ugly. Now 24, not a virgin. You need to build up right envorment for you to be happy enough so you can work out/work/ have a healthy social life. Otherwise life will chew you up and spit out. Working out and being honest whit oneself is key foundation
Easton Adams
Ha! A mouth ago I was a 21 year old kiss-less virgin.. And I still fucking am.. So I beat your record by a whole year and 5 weeks.
Sob.. I am so cold and lonely..
Brandon Hughes
If this guy can do it then so can you.
Sebastian Gray
In about 3 months i'll be the same thing except 22. It sucks how fast time goes by tbh, theres still hope though. Use the time you've wasted in the past to motivate you from wasting anymore in the future. Go to chan /fit/ or something and start working out. Having a baby face can be attributed to having high bodyfat, low muscle mass on the neck and shoulders. You'd be surprised how much getting in shape can change your facial structure. And regardless of how ugly you are or whatever your limitations are you can always improve. I'm almost 22 dude, if you started getting in shape right now you could have the perfect chad body by the time your my age. If you want to be a father you have to turn yourself into someone who is capable of being a father. Be the man your future wife and kids deserve user, theres still time left but you can't afford to waste anymore.
William Barnes
4chan*
Aiden Myers
Props to psychedelic healing.
Try going to church, or hippy gatherings. Plenty of women there looking for a domesticated man.
Personality is more important though and if he's a bumbling sperg he'll have a much harder time fixing that than getting a hot body.
Ryder Price
but… why is he sad then?
Hudson Reed
Because he's in a place where he is telling himself he can't do it.
Cameron Jackson
Irrelevant, like i said you can always improve. Better to be an attractive sperg than be an ugly one. If your attractive some girls will find shyness/awkwardness cute. If you're ugly they'll just see you as a creep.
Not only that but it will boost your confidence immensely, especially if you have body image insecurities. When you're content with how you look being a confident and not sperging out becomes much easier.
Evan Robinson
Also working out/being physical/using your body in general will help take your attention away from being stuck in your head all the time.
Jordan Cruz
I agree with this but personality is important and he should work on socialising just as much as he works on his body. I wasn't saying don't do it, I was just pointing out that you need the personality too.
is this supposed to be me? i dont get it. You posted this on SORECHAN as well.
Cameron Harris
I am going on 21 years of being a virgin. people like you have odd priorities. I get wanting to kill oneself, working fucking sucks and you have to do it, but because some whore won't let you fuck her? wtf?
Jaxon Cooper
For reference, there is this retarded lolcow called fringewizard who gets butthurt when you drop his dox. You can still see his spergout in his thread on /cow/. He was most likely responsible for the latest spam attacks and attempted to force migration to the newest flavor of the day dead chan because SORECHAN agreed to enforce "no doxing" rule on his behalf as opposed to here.
Joshua Walker
SORECHAN
Isaiah Peterson
smiley?
Nicholas Bell
yes, that's what he goes by too
Zachary Powell
I'd rather die a virgin then be a cuck to some cunt
Jordan Gutierrez
he posted a picture of his bedroom on SORECHAN, he left his flag on and someone noticed and reposted the pic to him in another thread and he sperged out.
Lucas Kelly
again, it's not so much being a virgin as it is my desire to be a father. if i can't fulfill that dream, i don't really see a point
Justin Robinson
This got to me. Being a father is number one on my endgame list. And it only sinks in further as I grow older and watch all my friends around me beat me to that goal. About 2 years ago I was diagnosed with avoidant personality disorder, and it's really hard for me to go out and meet new people without struggling. I want to meet people, but I'm just flat out to afraid to initiate. I can get any amount of confidence or whiskey in my body to talk to someone and I always just walk by because I can't work up the courage to meet anyone. I just end up sitting in self-pity in my apartment all night, unable to sleep because I can't count how many opportunities I've probably missed throughout the day.
"Being shy" isn't cute when you're 23.
Adam Reed
Personality disorders are a scam tbh. They can be good or bad and all that they really are are people who don't fit into a certain box. It's pure quackery.
Cooper Rodriguez
there is more then one way to be a father
Julian Foster
Just kill yourself faggot.
Carson Harris
If you're 20 you have at least another 20 years of prime child-bearing years. You can always find a younger girl later, there won't be any shortage of them with daddy issues.
William Mitchell
umm… no
Brayden Garcia
Well, we do. It's just much longer than women. I hear the ability for men to have healthy kids stops right around 60. Having kids past then may be possible, but the kid is going to have a high chance of being fucked up
Andrew Young
I need to see some study for that the only thing I can think of is that age would wear down dna, which is possible, but I am not sure it would lead to birth defects, and even then he can freeze sperm
Nathaniel Perry
I have no study, that's why I said "I hear". Heard it a couple different times, but never bothered to look into it. Besides, any 60+ year old man having kids with a 20-30 year old woman has problems beyond his semen slowly dying.
Connor Morales
semen die the millions everyday no matter the age of the male the only problem would be in the making of the semen
Noah Cox
Obviously I was talking about what makes the semen. Calm your autism.
Henry Ortiz
Lmao cry more, I just turned 24 with the same situation. You have much to learn.
Caleb Miller
I have a person with whom I could actually lose my virginity at 20 but I've probably already put her on her pretty petal stool and would be too scared to bring it up. If I didn't find bright and pretty women scary and the rest contemptible maybe I wouldn't be here.
Michael Young
everyone on Holla Forums (minus Jim and 8wheels) are virgins
Get over it You're amongst your own here
Joshua Cooper
Therefore nobody has advice as to how I fuck this obsessively self-aware INTP or be attracted to women who aren't mental? I'm going to have to hire someone or beg a friend, aren't I?
Colton Baker
Christ, just rub one out you thirsty faggot.
James Jackson
What did you think I planned on doing tonight? It's not going to solve anything. What do you do for a living? How do you manage to not make contact with the female of the species?
Isaiah Thomas
I'm an embedded software engineer. When I'm not at work, I stay home in my apartment and never go outside.
Liam Williams
wait til ur 47 yov lik me ur suffring has only begun try not to neck i prbly gonnna
Jaxon Green
26 year old self-inflicted kissless virgin NEET here. I don't care nearly as much about sex/romance as I used to, but I do wish I wasn't as cripplingly shy around people.
William Adams
How does that work? Are the specifications for the platform so well-defined that you can control the device with a high-level language or do you get a say about the design of the architecture? Would you recommend it as a career? It doesn't sound as sexy as infosec but I doubt the field would get saturated.
Tyler Walker
28 incel. personality is everything. the worst part is i don't even care anymore i\ll just wallow and become an alky or opoid user later no doubt
my parents should have encouraged me when young instead of preventing/discouraging me and making me stick my nose in fucking books instead
Michael Adams
I work at a contracting engineering company so it could be anything based on the projects that all come from other engineering companies making products. Depends on the customer and their specific needs.
I'd recommend you make a career of anything that I hate work and I doubt any sane person would choose to have a job if they didn't need to have a continuous source of income to buy food, but you have to settle with something to pay the bills so that's where I'm at.
Nolan Phillips
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Charles Foster
they are with almost certainty it's not like a kid has any choices
Eli Martin
Fuck off Jung, Sigmund was right.
Eli Miller
same my parents didn't allow me to go outside as a child. to school and back and if i was home too late i got into trouble and was disciplined
I also wasnt allowed to have any female friends (because they thought i was going to have sex with all of them) or visit females after school. Even for school projects. We had to figure out how to do group projects while I was still in class or at school.
Then I magically hit 18 and all of a sudden they were wondering why I never had a gf or was married. FYI they were teen parents and I guess they didn't want me to have any fucking fun like they had when they were younger so they shut me in the house
now I'm a 30yo kv fucking pathetic i blame them for most things
Jacob Turner
So basically I can do anything anywhere provided I take time to train and aren't trapped in the hell of infinite possibilities not wanting to do anything but wake up my honey in the morning to the sound of my flute. So how come you're not married?
Mason Cook
I don't understand what you mean here. See
Jordan Cooper
meep meep don't worry bout it bb if you bend over someone will give you a sense of fulfillment
Jayden Martin
I mean I'm a freaking genius but I have no direction so I follow the path of least resistance which now has me interning unpaid at the one-man IT department of a literally-who corp and if I contemplate my career I get distracted by the fact that I'm in contact with only the second woman I've met that is my type and the first one didn't end too well. In order to gain control of my life I'm going to have to have sex, and I don't know how to bring this topic to her even though she's unorthodox enough to not be offended by it.
Asher Thompson
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Jonathan Gutierrez
Get over it fag
James Martinez
That kind of shit is written by bad people who wonder why their kids are useless.
Samuel Garcia
I turn 25 in a couple weeks. Never had sex either.
It's kind of nice knowing I'm not the only one. I had a dream last night where I fell in love with a girl. It was nice. And a couple nights before I had a decent sex dream.
If you're really good a lucid dreaming you can just bang anything you want.
Justin Rogers
I was a kissless virgin at 20 too, my man. I was a coward who blew every chance at kissing girls or even asking them out. However, I met an introverted girl at community college who had similar values to me and also happened to be a virgin because she had some crazy anti-sex issues in her head. 3 years into our relationship she finally felt comfortable enough and we had some pretty nice sex. Now we're living together, engaged, planning for our wedding next year and discussing kids. I don't mean to brag, I'm just trying to say don't count yourself out yet. I hadn't kissed until I was 20 and I hadn't banged until 23, but honestly you can get away with dating chicks that are like 10 years younger than you as a guy so even 30 year old virgins aren't too old to start a family.
Brody Ramirez
I wish I could have that mindset, finally feeling like you've found "the one" and being together and then waking up to realize she never even existed is a soul crushing experience for me every time.
Aiden Hill
i need to kill myself.
Kayden Harris
early 20s is your last chance. Once you are past 25 there is no coming back. You were lucky and I am happy for you.
