I'm a lawyer working in the bowels of Washington, D.C. – or "legalfag" as you would rightly call me. I lurk and post on halfchan and fullchan. Regardless, the purpose of this post is to discuss the legal implications of a purported imposition of martial law by the President of the United States. Therefore, I will outline what the President's legal team may do to craft a document impose martial law. The outline will focus on the basic legal premise of martial law and expand the argument with precedent. Ultimately, I will offer several conclusions.
Pardon in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors since I write this post with brevity at work.
I. CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES REGARDING MARTIAL LAW
The Constitution allows the federal government to suspend the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus if the public safety requires it. If Pres. Obama wished to issue a suspension of habeas corpus, his legal team would craft a document imposing martial law based on the thesis implied by U.S. Const. art. III, § 9, specifically regarding the writ of habeas corpus and the requirement for suspension thereof. The President's legal team must then fuse the aforementioned Section (§) with U.S. Const. art. I, § 8 regarding activation of the militia in time of rebellion or invasion.
A good legal team will rightly see that the federal government has the ability to impose martial, but the Constitution does not delineate if the President or U.S. Congress can impose martial law. There is one outstanding federal case that makes it fairly difficult for the direct imposition of martial law directly by a sitting President. That is of Pres. Lincoln during the Civil War.
II. PRES. LINCOLN'S LEGAL PRECEDENT
The internet is abound with Pres. Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War as a basis for an Obama-imposed martial law. Legally, an opponent could easily strike down such a direct imposition by a sitting President by citing standing precedent ruling Pres. Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War as unconstitutional in Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 2 (1866). The ruling in ex parte Milligan provides sufficient legal cover to declare any suspension of writ of habeas corpus as unconstitutional if military courts administer the law when there are civilian courts (civilian authority) is still operational.
1) President Obama would have to suspend all civilian authority regarding all courts in the United States for a "true" version of martial law. This would only occur if there was a direct attack on the United States by a foreign invader and every civilian court had to cease duties. This leaves sufficient wiggle-room for people to speculate the definition of an "attack" and what defines the imposition of "ceasing the operation of civilian courts.''' This in itself is a tract of legal precedent, interpretation and wrangling which would likely have Obama's legal team seeking a sustainable amount of legal footing to make such a legal argument constitutional.
If Pres. Obama would go this route, he would likely have a favorable legal interpretation presented as the basis for his argument and then impose martial law without seeking approval from the U.S. Congress. This would immediately be challenged on constitutionality and likely be ruled as unconstitutional by any court based on Milligan. However, legal challenges take time, so even if the act is unconstitutional, it would likely take a long time for the case to go through all appellate courts to the Supreme Court. During the time it takes for the imposition of martial law to be overturned, martial law would likely be imposed unconstitutionally.
The fail-safe in this case is the Armed Forces. If the generals refuse to take an "illegal order" from the President, meaning the military would wait for a court ruling until it complies with the President's order for martial law. This would create a stalemate between the military and a civilian President.
2) The President's legislative team could draft martial law legislation and have the House and Senate approve it. This would be a constitutionally congruent imposition of U.S. martial law,' since representatives of "the governed" sufficiently reviewed and voted on behalf of their constituents' interests for martial law. Thus, the court would view that U.S. citizens were "involved" in the imposition of martial law on themselves.
The aforementioned is the strongest legal argument, since legislation approving martial is passed by the legislative branch and approved by the administrative branch of government. The Supreme Court would likely not overturn this approved legislation (standing law, U.S.C.) unless there are technicalities regarding the legislation and approval thereof that would make the martial law unconstitutional.
In this case, the military would be utilized to impose martial law. The military, however, may refuse to impose martial law because the military simply doesn't believe martial law is a reasonable solution. Legally, the military would be criminal in its failure to indulge the Congress and President on any newly passed and approved statute regarding martial law. This is essentially the generals saying "fuck you" to both the President and U.S. Congress.
The military could be circumvented by ordering the police and other forms of armed law enforcement not under the jurisdiction of the Department of Defense to impose martial law. This could range from local police to DHS imposing martial law. The military would either stand down and do nothing, or engage in what would essentially be civil war. If this was the case, the President ask for international military intervention. If the U.S. military wished, it could easily remove the President, Congress and expel foreign nationals intervening on behalf of the President's imposition of martial law.
3) International law/Treaties. I don't know enough about this part of the law, but there may be a U.N. treaty where there could be interference based on some delineated clause in said treaty. I doubt this exists and if it does, it would immediately be taken to court and likely be ruled as unconstitutional because U.S. Congress likely did not pass the law explicitly regarding the suspension of writ of habeas corpus.
As explained above in Section 2, the President could ask for foreign military intervention and "assistance" in maintaining martial law. This would likely be ruled unconstitutional.
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Justin King
needless bump
John Bailey
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CONCLUSION
Challenging a law or an act of the President takes time. It could take months or even years (if not fast-tracked) for the lawsuit to go through the entire appellate process and be heard by the Supreme Court. This window of time gives proponents of martial law the ability to engage in whatever activities they have planned.
In my opinion, the people who have final say are the people of the U.S. Armed Forces. Do the generals in the military have the balls to stand up to any form of martial and protect the populace from the imposition of martial law? If yes, then we're okay. If no, hopefully the lower ranks of the military will have cooler heads and protect the people from martial law.
Martial law has never really been fully analyzed except by several legal scholars. The issue is that nothing is truly set in stone. States have imposed martial law, but an apt legal team could argue and help overturn such rulings.
tl;dr - There is no such thing as "tl;dr" in law.
We live in strange times, hail Kek!
Jace Garcia
tl;dr
Gabriel Butler
Thoughts on REX 84, Any strange mandates for execution like Guillotines?
Jaxson Cooper
It's law, there is no such thing as tl;dr in law.
Luke Campbell
How much is the chance happening in % units
Carter Phillips
So basically the chance that Obama will do this is very low, because a lot of generals support Trump and they would sooner tell Obama to fuck off than help impose martial law.
Assuming you aren't full of shit, wouldn't Obama trying anything like what you described ultimately result in civil war? The country is not at war with itself right now and it won't be unless their idea of stumping Trump is to block the White House's doorway. Not to mention other countries would be more likely to help topple the government than help said government oppress the populace.
Mason Fisher
there's the tl;dr right there. those who know the nation belongs to them will have no other recourse to repel the advances of those who think the nation belongs to them.
nobody is going to give a shit about legal precedent when the lead starts flying. that's a kike's game and they are known to be too weak to actually fight for anything.
comfy cozy.
Samuel Perry
Fuck
Blake Cox
I've always been skeptical about the idea that other governments would try to take over the United States. That's an insane overhead. The populace of the invading country would probably be really against it, not to mention Americans wouldn't stand for it and it would be insanely expensive for a policing force to try to get compliance.
Brandon Peterson
mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:…
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the…
National Security Act of 1947 allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.
1950 Defense Production Act gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.
Act of August 29, 1916 authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.
International Emergency Economic Powers Act enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.
Dominic Jackson
Given the precedents of war and the wargames, I think any martial action would be directed specifically at central figure. No need for lasting conflict if the entire leading body of movers and shakers are behind bars or dead.
Alexander Kelly
Habeus Corpus has already been suspended - October 2006
Elijah Moore
Pretty sure it's easy for them to have all of that already. H.R. 5122
Lucas Bennett
Hahaha Let them try this shit. Lol. Would love to see them get their asses squashed
Jaxson Howard
In case anyone else is lurking this thread and haven't seen what I've seen on civil war matters, let me state plainly: we would fucking win a civil war, and easily.
This subject is grossly complex and there is a lot to say about it, but I'm going to attempt to tl;dr the strong points for everyone.
1) The government requires ridiculous amounts of infrastructure in order to fight against the people/freedom fighters. They have military operations and communications that require a ton of logistical maintenance and support in order to correctly operate. Disrupting any of this would be easy to do and devastating. 2) A civil war means Obongo/the feds would have zero idea where anyone's allegiances lie. Remember that only 6% of Americans trust the media, and Obambu's support/popularity is at an atrociously low level. Civil war is guaranteed to produce many large chunks of the military that take our side, including plenty of high ranking military brass. This brings us directly back to no. 1 above. 3) Going along with 1 and 2, there will be some in the intelligence community who side with us. All we need are around 10% of their employees to side with us, and intelligence can be easily and utterly subverted or outright wrecked. Worse, the feds will have no idea who is actually a mole fighting for us and who isn't, and finding out is a large drain of resources and will hardly set us back. Disrupting communications and intelligence is a huge hit against the government. 4) Going off of 3, we, the freedom fighters, do not require the kinds of logistical and intelligence support the government does. As proven by this board alone, we are all trained to think and operate independently with no requirement for support, as we hold true to a certain set of values and understand what needs to be done. We are decentralized and have no leader or command structure, and we can operate in fragmented cells and amorphous blobs that can break and reform as needed. Fighter cells can disable electric grids or communications easily if they know where to look or go, and what to do, much like someone sitting on the ground kicking out a stool from under someone standing on it.
There are many more things to mention and exactly what those are and how all these things intertwine is both complicated and incredibly fascinating, so I suggest you faggots start searching and reading.
Xavier Lopez
bump
Juan Green
my apartment was flood a month ago - upstairs neighbors. walls/ceilings were gutted, mold was everywhere. management refused to move us or refund our rent. we only now got moved a month later. would it be worth hiring an attorney to sue? thanks legalfag
thanks - i did look into that tho. i was wondering if the attorney fees would likely be greater than the return, to make it even financially profitable to sue. id hate to pay 5k and only get back a single months rent..
Jaxson Thomas
Bump
Jeremiah Butler
If Obama tries to impose martial law the only hope for the people is the military stopping it by forceful opposition or inaction.
Elijah Nguyen
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Camden Garcia
state police forces cant lock down one neighborhood with active resistance much less a city. police would get annihilated thinking they are capable of anything beyond giving out traffic tickets. what you would need to be worried about is the active duty infantry, not even the national guard as they get shit training and are low motivation. but i doubt the infantry would do anything beyond round the niggers up. declaring war on the people is a losing situation for (((them))). most likely they want to make conditions bad enough that we willingly surrender total control to them. if martial law is declared, they will secure areas of operation and let the chaos/fire rising all around them draw the people into their hands. like what happened at the superdome. 90% of the people went there themselves. it will probably look like that movie divergent where the government controls a city but all the land around it is out of their control.
Justin Lee
No militaary would most likley support Obama, right when he was elected he purged a lot of top brass and replaced them with his own supporters only lower teir may refuse and at the moment the military is being turned into a leftist orginization according to some armyfags
Landon Carter
except that vast swaths of police and military absolutely hate the current regime. If it came to martial law, you can be sure shit would hit the fan for the establishment. police hate the MSM for constantly making shit up and giving voice to retards like BLM and twisting the truth about them, and the current standing military (those who haven't been purged) know a good deal about Obongo's idealogical gutting of their forces and complete fuckups in the past war operations. The ones that are with Obongo are relatively new replacements meant to act solely as support for him, and aren't actually competent as military officers. They're beaurocrats with brass. Keep in mind that the vast majority of military guys either are or become conservative, simply by virtue of being in the military (although that may not be as much today as it was before, since the pres has attempted to 'progressify' the fucking military).
his replacements are retards. They're there to do Obongo's bidding and follow his lead, they don't actually know what they're doing on their own. Of the few of those faggots who actually know how to command troops, even fewer are going to have any fucking clue of how to proceed in a civil war, fighting against one's own citizens.
Jack Mitchell
Bumb for interesting
Nolan Sanders
So lets sum up for a proper TLDR
1) If the chimp tries this success boils down to how much of the military sides with him
2) He's gutted the brass and replaced them with sycophants, but the rank and file despise him.
3) Civil war is almost certain. Unless the vast majority of the military goes along with it the nigger will lose.
4) People are stupid, fat and easily fooled by propaganda, so that's possible.
Basically the TLDR is that if they are sneaky enough they might get away with it, but even then it's iffy. If they are blatant they get completely ass fucked.
Hudson Cook
Any lawyer will give you a free phone consultation. Find one that will take a percentage of the settlement and let them go to town. Otherwise you'll end up with the guy nickel and diming you as the case progresses. This isn't legal advice. It's common sense.
Gabriel Sullivan
sharia law is against the law yet iys part of islam and the quran and therefore islam should be illigal same goes for bible and talmud
Jackson Ortiz
and esp.
In regular life, all of this legalese, the jargon and legal justification, amounts to absolutely squat. If Obongo pulls the trigger on this, he'd better be ready because it's civil war within a few hours - and he would be strung up. The military won't go along with it, not even after all of his officer purges. Too many corporations, and assets, and just plain guns won't go along with it. You do this, and well, Holla Forums would enjoy the spectacle, but the rest of the country would skin you alive.
So why would I bother to read all that legal jargon? If imposition of martial happens, the legal words justifying it won't a damn thing to me, anyway. As a normal fag reacting to a martial law takeover, the only thing I care about is where you live.
Wyatt Jenkins
THEY TRIED TO WARN US
Asher Scott
Not even. Assuming that ALL of the military sides with him, they still need to keep all of their infrastucture and logistics that support their massive military machine from collapsing due to sabotage from their own citizens. Even then, freedom fighters are everyday people with no real command structure and no uniform. They do what they want, when they want, and lack of identifying clothing makes it easy for them to hide among the "innocent bystander" population. Fighting against troops gives the fighters the advantage; they may have superior technology and firepower, but they're bogged down by command structure and logistics, and are easily identified. The troops will also be outnumbered: The most they could muster is 2.4 million people. That's EVERYONE in the military. Top brass, bottom brass, reserve military, EVERYONE. Including the president himself, 2.4 million people.
Our population is 320 million. Less than one fucking percent of our population would outnumber the whole of the military. Keep in mind that for successful revolution, the general benchmark is having 10% of your population on your side and actively involved in order to be guaranteed success.
Long story short A civil war would be a fucking nightmare for the establishment even if every single gun they had was loyal, and victory for them would be slim and also extremely Pyrrhic. Do note that they most certainly will NOT have a lot of the military on their side. I'd be shocked if they managed to even grab 60 percent, and that's being generous.
Adrian Morris
Have you guys factored UN intervention and any opportunism by competing nations into these feel good calculations?
Ayden Cooper
Bumping
Chase Brooks
Oh I also forgot to mention, I haven't even talked about outside powers yet.
If shit hits the fan and it comes to civil war, you bet your fucking ass that foreign powers are going to come running, eager to supply the rebels and facilitate the downfall of the current regime. China and Russia are the two biggest players in this situation, and they would most definitely stir the pot. The people would need to be vigilant against infiltration and attempted assumption of control from these powers, but if the people are smart, they'd be able to use these other countries for their resources without signing their souls away.
Remember, the USA has constantly done this in the middle east: today's friendly rebels doing the dirty work you want against the regime you hate, are tomorrows organized fighters who fucking hate you and are now fully stocked and supplied thanks to your foreign meddling.
Cameron Harris
top laff, the UN is a joke
Parker Perry
Thanks for making this OP. Its been on my mind all week as this appears to be the next logical move for globalists as Hillary's gig is up and prevailing election law will give Trump an almost unopposed election. That gives king nigger the perfect excuse per the globalist narrative used so heavily on America, mainly the necessity of "upholding/defending democracy". Martial law will give Obongo unprecedented access to military technology related to occupation and suppression of dissonance including biometric registration. Notice also that the nigger is turning the internet over to ((("international"))) organizations plays nicely into this as it strongly signals his willingness to hand over US sovereignty to globalists.
It will be interesting to see if Obama goes for it as civil war is guaranteed. I don't know if Trump will even be relevant then. And if it is civil war, those of us who do nothing but shit posts will have absolutely no excuses left for avoiding IRL activity, freikorp style.
Ethan Barnes
Don't forget what redteamanon wrote toward the end of his post: It's more profitable for them to start a major, global conflict than to risk civil war.
Easton Rivera
Found this screencap, some words of comfort.
David Evans
Trump could play into this now this wall is not to keep people out but to hold us in and that is true El Chapo used a tunnel to get out of jail they have tunnels that cross the border and tunnels all over connected to Jade Helm and that is what the military Trained for in Texas and other southern states. There are all of those coffins and I think they are gonna try a false flag or an inside job to declare marital law. They are not gonna get this going with politics they are gonna do a false flag or however much it takes to divide us into submission. That seems to be their gameplan I am liking trump but all of the nation can not depend on Trump to save us from this mess.
Logan Nelson
DISINFO ALERT
The truth of the matter is martial law has never ended and The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 established the UNITED STATES foreign Corporation. The Corporation only acts under the Constitution OF the United States and not the original Constitution FOR the United States
I will paste the historical timeline of events, here is a link
1st: Martial Law is declared by President Lincoln on April 24th, 1863, with General Orders No. 100; under martial law authority, Congress and President Lincoln institute continuous martial law by ordering the states to either conscribe troops and or provide money in support of the North or be recognized as enemies of the nation; this martial law Act of Congress is still in effect today. This martial law authority gives the President (with or without Congress) the dictatorial authority to do anything that can be done by government in accord with the Constitution of the United States of America. This conscription act remains in effect to this very day and is the foundation of “Presidential Executive Orders” authority; it was magnified in 1917 with The Trading with the Enemy Act (Public Law 65-91, 65th Congress, Session I, Chapters 105, 106, October 6, 1917). and again in 1933 with the Emergency War Powers Act, which is ratified and enhanced almost every year to this date by Congress. Today, these Acts address the people of the United States themselves as their enemy. 2nd: The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 created a private corporation (hereinafter “Corp. U.S.”, Trademark name, “United States Government”) owned and operated by the actual government for the purpose of carrying out the business needs of the government under martial law. This was done under the constitutional authority for Congress to pass any law within the ten mile square of Washington, District of Columbia (link to PDF image file of the full 1871 Act).
Aaron Gomez
3rd: In said Act, Corp. U.S. adopted their own constitution (United States Constitution), which was identical to the national Constitution (Constitution of the United States of America) except that it was missing the national constitution’s 13th Amendment and the national constitution’s 14th, 15th and 16th amendments are respectively numbered 13th, 14th and 15th amendments in the Corp. U.S. Constitution. At this point take special notice and remember this Corp. U.S. method of adopting their own Constitution, they will add to it in the same manner in 1913.
4th: Corp. U.S. began to generate debts via bonds etc., which came due in 1912; but, they could not pay their debts; so, the 7 families that bought up the bonds demanded payment and Corp. U.S. could not pay. Said families settled the debt for the payments of all of Corp. U.S.’ assets and for all of the assets of the Treasury of the United States of America.
5th: As 1913 began, Corp. U.S. had no funds to carry out the necessary business needs of the government; so, they went to said families and asked if they could borrow some money. The families said, “No.” (Corp. U.S. had already demonstrated that they would not repay their debts in full). The families had foreseen this situation; and, had the year before finalized the creation of a private corporation of the name “Federal Reserve Bank”. Corp. U.S. formed a relationship with the Federal Reserve Bank; whereby, they could transact their business via note rather than with money. Notice that this relationship was one made between two private corporations and did not involve government (see: The Clearfield Doctrine); that is where most people error in understanding the Federal Reserve Bank system—again, except by contract with Corp. U.S., it has no government relation at all. The private contracts that set the whole system up even recognize that; if anything therein proposed is found illegal or impossible to perform it is excluded from the agreements and the remaining elements remain in full force and effect.
6th: Almost simultaneously with the last fact (also in 1913), Corp. U.S. adopts (as if ratified) their own 16th amendment. Tax protesters challenge the IRS tax collection system based on this fact; however, when we remember that Corp. U.S. originally created their constitution by simply drafting it and adopting it, there is no difference between that adoption and this—such is the nature of corporate enactments. You must also note that this amendment has nothing to do with our nation, with our people or with our national Constitution; which already had its own 16th amendment. The Supreme Court ruled that it did nothing that was not already done other than to make plain and clear the right of the United States (Corp. U.S.) to tax corporations. We agree; considering that the IRS was created under the authority of Corp. U.S.
7th: Next (also 1913) Corp. U.S., through Congress, adopts (as if ratified) its 17th amendment. This amendment is not only not ratified, it is not constitutional; the nation’s Constitution forbids Congress from even discussing the matter of where Senators are elected: which is the subject matter of this amendment. According to the United States Supreme Court, for Congress to propose such an amendment they would first have to pass an amendment that gave them the authority to discuss the matter.
8th: Accordingly, in 1914, the Freshman class and all Senators that successfully ran for reelection in 1913 by popular vote were seated in Corp. U.S. Senate capacity only; respectively, the original jurisdiction Senate seats from their respective States remained vacant; because, neither the State Senates nor the State Governors appointed new original jurisdiction Senators to replace them; which is still required by the national Constitution for placement of a national government Senator.
Michael Torres
9th: In 1917, Corp. U.S. enters W.W. I and passes their Trading with the Enemies Act.
10th: In 1918, President Wilson is reelected by the Electoral College; but, Electoral College elections are required to be confirmed by the constitutionally set Congress; and,where the new Corp. U.S. only Senators were allowed to participate in the Electoral College vote confirmation, the only authority that could possibly have been used for electoral confirmation was limited to corporate only. Therefore, President Wilson was not confirmed into office for his second term as the President of the United States of America; rather, he was only seated in the Corp. U.S. Presidential capacity as the President of the United States. Therefore the original jurisdiction government’s seats were vacated because the people didn’t seat any original jurisdiction government officers. It is important to note here that President Wilson retained his capacity as Commander in Chief of the military. Many people wonder about this fact imagining that such a capacity is bound to the President of the nation; however, When John Adams was President he assigned George Washington to the capacity of Commander in Chief of the military in preparation for an impending war with France. During this period, Mr. Adams became quite concerned because Mr. Washington became quite ill and passed on his acting military authority through his lead General Mr. Hamilton; and, Mr. Adams was concerned that if war did break out Mr. Hamilton would use that authority as Commander in Chief to create a military dictatorship out of the nation. Mr. Adams worked extra hard to, and, averted the war through diplomacy; and, the title of Commander in Chief was returned to the President. (See: John Adams, by David McCullough, this book covers Mr. Adams concerns over this matter quite well. Mr. Adams was a fascinating man.)
11th: In 1933, Corp. U.S. is bankrupt; which forced what was called “a banking holiday” to exchange money backed Federal Reserve Notes with “legal tender” Federal Reserve Notes; accordingly, the Trading with the Enemies Act was adjusted to recognize the people of the United States of America as enemies of Corp. U.S.
12th: In 1935, the Social Security Act was formed to provide Corp. U.S. the “excess capital” needed to at least start paying some of the interest Corp. U.S. owed in the bankruptcy. Thereafter, if you were to ask the Social Security Administration for a relationship with their program (by filing an S5 form), they would [with the express purpose of generating Beneficiary funds to United States General Trust Fund (GTF) the Social Security Administration] create an entity with a name (that sounds like your name but is spelled with all capital letters) and an account number (Social Security number). They give you the Social Security card and let you know that the card does not belong to you but you are to hold it for them until they want it back. If you are willing to accept that responsibility over the card you activate the card by signing it, which gives you the ability to act as the fiduciary for the cards actual owner Corp. U.S. and you can use the card’s name and number to thus, transact business relations for the card’s actual owner. You are also to note that though the card verifies its agency (you as the single person with authority to control the entity so created) it is not for use as identification. On review: notice the Social Security Administration was the creator of the entity (cardholder), they offered you the opportunity to serve its Trustee capacity (by lending it actual consciousness and physical capacity), they gave you something (the card) that does not belong to you to hold in trust and they reserved the actual owner of the thing (Corp. U.S.) as the beneficiary of the entity—by definition, this only describes the creation and existence of a Trust. More importantly: the name they gave this Trust is not your name, the number they gave the Trust is not your number and your lending actual consciousness and physical capacity to this Trust’s Trustee capacity does not limit you or your capacity to separately act in your natural sovereign capacity in any way—what you do, when you do it and how you do it is still totally up to you (see: Corp. U.S’. Myth 9).
13th: In 1944, under the Bretton Woods Agreement, Corp. U.S. granted the International Monetary Fund (hereinafter, "IMF") drawing account access to the United States Treasury in exchange for the Corp. U.S. President acquiring control over the governors and general managers of the IMF; respectively, making Corp. U.S. a foreign controlled private corporation.
Lucas Kelly
14th: In 1962, considering the states were forced to carry out their business dealings in terms of Federal Reserve Notes (foreign notes), which is forbidden in the national and State constitutions, out of that necessity, the states began protecting themselves from the people by forming corporations like Corp. U.S. Accordingly, those newly formed corporate state administrations began adopting Corp. U.S. suggested uniform codes and licensing structures that allowed better and more powerful control over the people, which thing the original jurisdiction governments of this nation had no capacity to do. Our Constitutions secure that the governments do not govern the people; rather, they govern themselves in accord with the limits of Law as it is derived from the people through the constitutions. The people govern themselves. Such is the foundational nature of our Constitutional Republic.
15th: By 1972, every State government in the union of States had formed such private corporations (hereinafter, “Corp. State”), in accord with the IMF’s admonition; and, the people ceased to seat original jurisdiction government officials in their State government seats.
TL:DR US Government created private foriegn corporation in 1871. The Debt Money Monopolist installed their private bank in 1913, and it only took 30 years to make the Country broke with the fraudulent monetary system. All the "Citizens" were out up as collateral and we have been slaves ever since.
Remember, a free range chicken will produce more then a locked up chicken. The illusion of freedom makes us produce more without realizing we are actually slaves. There is NO NWO, ONLY the OLD WORLD ORDER.
Kayden Hernandez
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John Anderson
This is a good thread.
10/10.
Keep the high quality anonposts coming.
Brayden Carter
The United States have never been anything other than a corporation from the start. It was started by the East India Trading company, and that is where the US flag gets its stripes.
Adam Reed
I hope he tries. Finally get a civil war up in here to push the overton window straight off the chart on the rightmost side. Liberalism does not fare well in real war.
Benjamin Hill
This was the real red pill. I'm incredibly disgusted.
Connor Anderson
Wrong, the united states was created as a contract of sovereigns which created a trust indenture. The trust called government got it's trustee capacity to perform certain duties by the authority of the sovereigns. That is why they had to create a new Constitution in 1871 to create a private corporation which they were the heads.
All states soon followed suite and became corporations.
Aaron Powell
This is only partially possible. Most cities have independent power supplies. At most, NYC would be the single objective.
Cyber attack on all plants is ineffective/impossible due to the number of them and logistics, not to mention power can be transferred via power lines from other sources.
Julian Taylor
I am glad someone can see the truth. When I approach people and tell them that they were sold as collateral in the 1930's by a corporation called the united states, I am told I am crazy. If you follow the history and actions, it all makes sense. When we were transferred from sovereigns to 14th amendment citizens, gold was confiscated at the time through executive order for the bankers to collect for payment. You look into the train of thought, you will find the truth.
Nicholas Hernandez
all i got from that is amun-ra is the god of the jews and christians and he is a god of darkness.
Juan Gray
The UN…..? You mean, the organization that gets a huge chunk of its forces from the US? The same forces that will have defected? THAT UN?
Caleb Robinson
So what options are left on the table for them? It seems like if they try marshall law, they'll be hanging from nooses in less than a week. False flag? They're gonna need a hell of a false flag.
Carter Wright
This is a fantastic thread, but I want every user to keep the following in the back of his mind:
Believe nothing you see on TV. If Hillary dies or is dead, if Trump "does" or "says" something that's just wrong. Don't fucking trust any digital video.
What would we do with the snitches? No doubt every soccer mom would rat people out for their 30s of fame.
Benjamin Cook
So Obama purged the military, had 1 of the Supreme Court Judges assassinated, and there was a nuke radius Facebook thing in San Diego.
Nuke or dirty bomb goes off, Putin is blamed and Trump is implicated and possibly disqualified because Clinton poisoned or something, martial law and military doesn't refuse because top guys are cucks, and appeal will come at a 4-4 standstill. Did I miss anything?
James Smith
Oh, boy, a Sovereign Citizen. I don't know if you're a false flag shill trying to subvert us and make us look retarded, or just an idiot. Either way, fuck off.
Jordan Rodriguez
Interesting, but effectively irrelevant.
The country is what we agree it is. If we agree that fiat currency is worthless it's worthless. If we agree that obongo is a traitor then that's what he is.
The problem is that not everyone's opinion is equal. Comey's opinion on Clintons crimes matters more than yours or mine.
That's what this whole thread is about. Consent. If enough of us don't consent and pick up guns then none of those documents matter.
Brandon Foster
REMINDER THAT THIS EXISTS tried to embed but it was posted recently
Ayden Taylor
Where's that infamous screencap of some user accessing the pros and cons of a civil war? He ultimately came to the conclusion that the feds are deathly afraid of starting shit with us.
Parker Wood
Never underestimate a cornered foe.
Benjamin Walker
If by cornered you mean a threat to a big portion their paycheck, I guess.
Michael Davis
Pretty much everyone in our government risks being charged with felonies up to and including treason if Trump is elected.
They're backs are against the wall. They could do anything, no matter how stupid it seems.
Asher Phillips
So long as there are more firearms in civilian hands than able bodied men to wield them and sufficient munitions to kill every man, woman and child in north america several times over there will be no attempt to impose martial law.
Not to mention the military would never go along with it. Even if the top brass were cucked puppets (which is true to some extent) the middle level officers and especially the rank and file troops would never go along with it en mass, they would be far more likely to desert or even go rogue and fight with the people.
And then we haven't even considered the navy. Just imagine if even ONE captain of an aircraft carrier or god forbid a nuclear sub decided to say fuck you king nigger I'm not gonna play your game.
Ryder Bailey
This is extremely reasonable. Thanks for the analysis.
Daniel Sullivan
Yeah, because Trump cleaning out the DoJ and auditing the Fed isn't a massive threat to the entire corrupt system or anything
Dylan Powell
Do you really need to ask this question?
Ethan Torres
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Cameron Evans
lel
Zachary Cox
I think you overestimate Trump's willingness to not play nice with the establishment as President. He might go after Clinton for her crimes as a token gesture but I don't see much beyond that.
Remember that Trump picked Pence for his VP and endorsed Paul Ryan.
Christian Scott
really makes you think..
Gabriel Torres
What's the possibility of you being on one of these "legal teams", OP?
Samuel Myers
What are the chances the ZOGbot grunts would refuse orders to implement martial law against the American people?The whole process is to turn you into a robot. If it does come to civil war I'd imagine that a lot of the army would be gunning for us and only a very small amount would revolt. Hopefully the ones on the people's side wouldn't be idiots and would sabotage instead of a useless last stand before they're purged.
Nathaniel Parker
fuck you
Joseph Richardson
Sage
Liam Anderson
You do know that hailing kek delivers the U.S. and the World directly to the Oded Yinon plan and one world Jewish control? In just two days, not only have they sent a woman to produce a red heifer from an unnamed man to deliver to Masonry and the Whore of Babylon with their false Davidic line. And here you are praising a Hooked nosed frog that with blood sacrifice with provide then the keys to continue this cycle and destroy Christianity? What are you nuts? TEXAS did 911. And good luck hiding in the bunkers. The entire up and down go. Nice job with Hecete BTW.
Alexander Powell
The dawn has come and there is nothing you can do about it.
Adam Campbell
Well said, Peryokon.
Zachary Jackson
There are three sections in Article 3 of the US Constitution, user. None of them concern the writ of habeus corpus
Is Obama's buddy, Eric Holder still trying to get black people to riot as an excuse to implement martial law?
Alexander Edwards
it's kind of funny, but when I saw that crown above the S logo in that pic, I just thought it stood for Wall Street.
Eli Parker
They won't call it martial law. They'll call it a civil emergency.
Jacob Miller
even if he has 100% military cooperation.. the numbers have been run there is no way they come out on top. Best case for them is they retain power over a couple of states but the rest of the country completely balkanizes. and iirc that was one of the least likely outcomes.
Grayson Wright
I hope I one day see a platoon of blue helmets advancing towards me. Id love to do some kind of art deco thing with the helmets.
Jaxon Gonzalez
This is how it'd go for every single major city in america. Once the police and enforcement (white) people are gone, EBTs turned off, then the niggers will go fucking crazy.
Nobody has the financial capability to sustain such a welfare state bar the USA or fucking china. Any person or group who attempted to occupy the USA would be faced with red dawn uprisings from every corner of innawoods, and then from the inner cities it'd be gangs working to destroy an already weak provisional government and establish their fiefdoms a la mexico.
I dare them. They think we don't welcome this future? Why contain it.
Kevin Sanders
daily reminder that the kikes will unleash any and all weapons they have against you. Expect nigger waves (fighting against the white supremacist right wingers), jihadis, and foreign mercenaries. Expect a country that looks like Syria when it's finished.
Cooper Davis
see
William Hall
Empty threat is empty. He wouldn't dare.
Kayden Robinson
Bump
Elijah Parker
Fuck of faggot, there is literally no evidence they're doing this. ML would be political suicide.
Robert Morales
Thanks for Correcting the Record
Andrew Green
Your attitude is wrong.
Especially since it is a foreign server. If the Pepe thing bloats too much, they might, but not Martial Law - something like the Patriot act might be feasible, though.
Cooper Cook
Military is cucked to shit in recent years. But you might have enough feet dragging and limited mutiny to make it ineffecient to impose martial law.
Adam Foster
Pseudo legalism is nonsense. All that matters is what people will comply with and what they won't. They'll generally comply with uniformed men and people with black gowns. Unless they get sufficiently pissed. Then they won't. That's all that matters. Legality is a negotiation between (((lawyers))) and is only as valid as our trust in them.
Jace Jenkins
Show me the proofs then faggots.
Christopher Hall
ML is not feasible. ML would only be a feasible move if the US mainland has been invaded and significant sleeper cells exist causing damage outside of the front lines. The US mainland will never be breached by a foreign power, certainly not before November, so there is no way the people would accept ML. Colonization proved it's no longer feasible to rule over a country that doesn't want to serve you. There are zero scenarios where ML is declared and negative scenarios where it helps Obama.
RPing is fine but some of you faggots actually think it would happen.
Luis Scott
Hasn't Obama replaced a good amount of the higher-up Generals? If they're all pozzed then it seems to me that we're fucked.
Jacob Russell
(checked)
He's been trying to, yes… but I think it's the nuclear chain of command he is concerned about.
Well,
Because Israel is trying to steal our nuclear weapons, right?
Aaron Gutierrez
That is actually the UN plan. Its why we have drills and exercises and train foreign troops on US soil. So when SHTF foreign governments can be used to enforce martial law.
Why would we be working with troops from country's we supposedly hate, like russia and china.
Cooper Jackson
Nice try moishe
Connor Smith
(Continued)
You guys remember those two incidents where the US almost lost nuclear weapons?
I think Israel is trying to use their infiltrators to gain access to US's Nuclear stockpile.
I think Condi Rice was sec-state during the last one…. wans't she?
Something about them being moved to a "Staging Area" (((somewhere))) in the middle east, right?
Liam Gomez
I know you think you're helping lawfag, but this is exactly where its going to get very simple. The understanding must begin with comprehending that "the game is rigged" and ultimately what ever jew lawyering they can do, they will do to ultimately enslave us.
What you're describing is a fork in the road, and I agree with you that its coming. The simple outcome, when backed into a corner, is we will fight.
Iow: We're going to begin killing those who support the state, not as anarchists, but because it has been co-opted by kikes. When this happens, and they attempt some kind of grand police-state-gun-seizurr is exactly when…
RIGHT WING DEATH SQUADS
…become a reality. Personally I can't wait.
Jack Smith
Were you alive for 9/11? Do you remember how you felt on that day? How the nation felt?
If we get hit by a couple nukes to start World War 3, people will be too caught up in the polarizing fear to care what the government decides to do.
Daniel Hughes
Don't forget Putin arming and supplying any revolt against obama. Basically Obama's chance would be to quickly mobilize the national guards and deal with a few states (mostly The great plains states/texas) not going along with him and seceding/turning their NGs against him, drafting up the innercities, sanctuary cities,syrian refugees, and liberal college campuses to replace the Army and marines who leave, and begging mexico and canada or the UN to get involved. After that populations would quickly run from one side to the other, with conservative whites flooding the rebel territory, and minorites/liberals running to govt territory.
Jason Mitchell
Sleep has enlightened me.
WE ARE THAT INVADER
Obama, or TPTB will provide information that Russians have either killed Hillary, or have somehow manipulated the election. TPTB would release information that Pepe the frog is a form of communication among Russian cyber terror cells operating within the US. From there, TPTB would say that the American justice system is unable to properly dispense justice, as every jury will be infiltrated by these Russian cyber terror cells.
Since the civilian courts can no longer operate properly, martial law would have to be implemented to protect civilians.
Camden Campbell
what uh, what's going on in this gif?
Jeremiah Rivera
A murder on live television. Some nigger revenged on his ex-coworker journalists.
Nathan Collins
oh.
Owen Moore
its my favorite gif, she looks just like my law professor that nobody liked. It always gives me a chuckle watching it
Colton Rogers
Don't forget the moment even ONE person who thinks like us takes either an chemical, biological or nuclear facility. Game fucking over for the globalists.
There is fully stop 0 fucking reason not to immediately deploy such munitions directly into the heart of the enemy and its supporters across the world. Those fuckers are looking to exterminate our families, no sense in holding anything back. The continental US can be taken by gun and bomb. But the rest of the world? Better be shipping the patriots your spare equipment, or you get vaporized ports and major cities left and right. Have fun w that.
The stakes in this are even higher for them if they miss step just once because of this. Never mind the hurtle of trying to 'win' a conflict which is nearly guaranteed to last 6-10 years. And if they don't fully win, they lose everything. Hell of a gamble to take when you already own and control everything of note.
Just why would you play russian roulette like that?
Logan Allen
I would actually say the opposite.
We just went thru two long as fuck wars against an insurgency that frankly was never taken down even a notch. Most of the legitimate military operations ended up being accepted by the enemy and had little to do with our military in the first place dictating anything but 'I am here, shoot me' tactics. Sure some minor notes of worth beyond that, but objectively that is what happened.
With millions of vets (the primary targets of the purges by government in a civil war) having seen both sides of that kind of conflict. I seriously doubt very many of them are going to rush off to join up in an easily identifiable and uniformed military force to allow our own government its chance at slaughtering us or our families.
Instead I see them running straight into the most die hard zones of government support and fully infusing themselves into their locations. Why when hunting prey, do you walk into an empty desert, or move into the places in which they live?
Centralized locations would only be good for attracting the chaff and idiots so you can retain highly effective small units operating more like SF than line grunts, and maybe a supply zone / training ground for people to 'get gud' before moving back out.
William Wilson
Stay classy homeland security, I would say let the big boys debate it out here and take your blantant shilling to 4 shit, ok.
Adrian Watson
Wew Considering an American civil war almost guarantees WW3, the UN would be forced to use African Troops and likely Brazilian Troops, as everyone else will be too busy or won't care.
Chances are it would be a hybrid war, with rebel forces using both conventional and guerilla forces. Militia and resistance groups would pop up Ala Red Dawn and green berets/spetsnaz would help train then to fuck shit up behind the lines. But territory would be needed help civilians escape to, and conventional forces would be necessary for retaking territory and driving back occupational forces. Conventional forces and militia could work in tandem to form a formidable fighting force.
Blake Parker
The forces the UN calls on are mostly niggers and sand niggers
James Perez
Bamp
Kayden Russell
OP LEGAL FAG HERE: REPLIES TO QUESTIONS
Guillotines: The usage of guillotines would likely be struck down as unconstitutional because it may be considered by any court as "cruel and unusual punishment" under U.S. Const. amend. VIII.
National Security Presidential Directive (NSPD) 51, "National Continuity Policy": This is an intra-governmental directive. Therefore its applicability and outcomes vis-a-vis law enforcement may be challenged and appealed in court.
Aforementioned directive may grant rights to a branch of government that may – when challenged in an appellate court – be unconstitutional.
Since this is an operational directive under mandate from the administrative branch of government, a legal team would have to research how the directive itself was the cause for the government to breach a defendant's constitutional rights utilizing U.S.C.
Executive Orders: Exec. Orders can be struck down by courts if the legal argument justifying the executive order is unconstitutional. The list you pasted likely has Exec. Order that would be struck down by a court based on constitutionality if the executive order was actually challenged in court. My bet is no one has tried that yet.
In essence, all these Exec. Orders could be struck down by courts if someone challenged their constitutionality thereby negating their value. If no one challenges them, though – the Exec. Orders essentially stand.
In fullchan speak: "If user became president,went full 14/88 and issued an Exec. Order allowing the creation of Right Wing Death Squads (RWDS), I can do that. But kike lawyers would challenge my RWDS-related Exec. Order and it would be likely struck down, because kikes and a kike team of lawyers would put up money, time and resources to take the case regarding the Exec. Order allowing the creation of RWDS to court. Since they took the RWDS Exec. Order to court, they could strike it down."
I'll be back. Need to do some other shit, will answer the rest later and do a tl;dr.
Adam Bennett
Burgers saying they will go into revolution, uprising. This is fucking hilarious.
Burgers will never do shit, and burgercucks that have done a good contribution to what we have today in Internet and computing too say those grommed here that "run the world"… they think what needs to be done to maintain this hegemony will be done.
Not to mention you already have an example of anglosphere country with hyper-surveillance and control on steroids of its citizens, that's Britain.
Ryder Martinez
Hi can I get a job :^)
Aiden Peterson
Phenominal
Henry Hill
It’s the second most humane way to kill someone and 100% guaranteed to work.
Levi Thompson
Martial Law cannot happen under Obama or Hillary now, Trump secured the backing of the military today and had the whole of our media broadcast such to the people. The Obama birther shit was just a Trojan, the real message was who the military will side with in a civil war.
Ryan Taylor
I think that's our next match in this game.
Caleb Ramirez
highly likely, I'll dig into that tomorrow, just did a little on this for my degree.
David Jackson
Israel v US when?
Noah Wood
Is that an old precedent too? or has recent international law and subsequent policy skewed it to PC agenda?
Hunter Morgan
It would likely be Mexico and Canada. China will have bigger problems if the US goes full civil war 2: race war boogaloo.
Hunter Thomas
No it is inhumane becaus of the forshadowing and terrorist implications that would make this an act of domination not justice. There are times when it did not work the first time and If David Crowley can have himself and his family murderd for putting the guillotine in the grey state trailer there is something wrong here. I would rather be shot in the head than ritually beheaded like some isis victim.
Dominic Garcia
this is alarming.
Look at this photo. They killed the director mid production because of this. Stop it you neo-jacobin fuck its not gonna happen and if it is it will be the 6 million freemasons that will be beheaded not some vaugue enemys of the state.
Jaxon Morales
Ironic that the real goal of Holla Forums is prevent war.
Leo Phillips
What movie is that?
Easton Smith
What am I looking at?
Tyler Perez
It's a thing freemansons wear.
Jayden Lee
Reign of Terror 2.0 :^)
Matthew White
nigger what are you even talking about?
Brandon Myers
OY VEY. REMEMBER.. oh wait
Colton Wilson
thanks for the good thread. can you offer any general advice to anons with plans to go into law? starting law school soon.
Zachary Morgan
On the one hand, I see what you're trying to say.
OTOH, how long do you think he'd live if he'd kept up the level of rhetoric he started with to this point? He wants to effect change, not start a revolution–even if he's outspoken, the Don is ultimately an idealist and ultimately an optimist. The idea of another civil war is repellant to him, because he truly thinks we have what it takes to become great again.
Carson Bennett
No, not irrelevant at all. I am bankrupting a town this way after their police wanted a bribe. Set up kind of a logic bomb for them.
I smell pork.
Jose James
Oh BTW, you know what really fucks with corporate US maritime law?
Royalty.
Ask the Queen.
Eli Thompson
No one will admit to it because the charade will crash.
I've had a judge disbarred by pointing this out. It is 100% real.
Tyler Kelly
SARS 2 or rectal amphibian flu to scare the sheep
Ryder Kelly
OP LEGAL FAG HERE: REPLIES TO QUESTIONS II
Again, pardon any typos, grammar and apparently a citation error. As you can imagine, I write this with brevity.
Countering the "U.S. is a corporation legal mythology
A) You are propagating a myth. Your post is disinformation. I will discuss it in Sec. B:
B) Why the United States is not a corporation
1) There are governmental corporations – I believe there are 22. These corporations were incorporated by the federal government for various reasons. One such corporation is the Tennessee Valley Authority, or "TVA."
2) The legal argument in your copypasta is false, since the U.S. as a nation is codified as a sovereign nation in U.S. Const. This legal document enables the U.S. to operate as a sovereign nation among other sovereign nations. Other sovereign nations have different forms of governance, law and legal procedure per aforementioned non-U.S. sovereign nations' law.
3) The federal government can create corporations, but legal jurisdiction over U.S. citizens are derived from the U.S. Const. The U.S. Const. delineates U.S. national sovereignty. Only a sovereign nation can enforce criminal law upon its citizens.
Since a corporation is a creation of civil law and not a creation directly derived off a legal argument based off U.S. Const. and criminally enforceable U.S.C., which define the sovereign state of the United States. Criminal law supersedes civil law in legal "privilege." The U.S. defined by U.S. Const. as a sovereign state can create a corporation that is a creation of civil law, that corporation can not legally impose criminal law in the same manner as that of a sovereign state (the U.S.). Ultimately, corporations can have rules and arbitration boards, but the ultimate decision on any corporate matter can be taken to an appellate court under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Const. – which defines the U.S. as a sovereign nation with legal jurisdiction over its own citizens, since only the sovereign nation has the ability to impose law and subsequent legally sanctioned violence – like the death penalty. A corporation is a creation of civil law and thus does not have the legal authority to act as a sovereign nation, since a corporation is only an instrument of civil law.
Please understand that the whole U.S. corporation thing is a myth. If it was real, the individuals who propagate this myth could easily take such a case to court and have this mythical "U.S. federal corporation" dissolved immediately – since such an corporation would be unconstitutional.
C) Washington, D.C. is not under "martial law" argument
The law cited in your post was struck down in 1874. Washington, D.C. was handed civilian authority in the 1960's. Also, the State of Virginia took back its portion of Washington, D.C. (Alexandria and Arlington counties). Washington, D.C. is not under what is defined as martial law because that implies military courts enforce the law rather than civilian courts.
Legally, the whole "God" argument is "technically" true. The U.S. Const. is meant to protect the rights of humans which are already "God-given." The U.S. Const. does not grant rights but "protects" the rights given to us by "God."
In reality, the rights of people in any nation are not given to them by any 'God' but by the government (people) which has a monopoly of violence over its population. The monopoly of violence thus gives a nation its ability to enforce laws under the sovereign country's jurisdiction. Thus, rights are "granted" by the people who control the monopoly on violence, such as law enforcement and the military.
You are correct, it was a typo on my end. The fact I'm on fullchan at the firm I work for is a feat in itself. Let's say fullchan has allies in good places. We see the bullshit.
Here is the clause which it was originally my intent to cite:
U.S. Const. art I § 9
My apologies, I was writing as fast as I could. Thankfully this is not a post that requires me charging billable hours off a company retainer.
Levi Morales
OP LEGAL FAG HERE: REPLIES TO QUESTIONS II (CONTINUED)
If you want to work with highly functional psychopaths and sociopaths. You get paid a shitload of money, though. The hours suck. At least you don't see said psychopaths all the time, since essentially you lock yourself in your office.
The big firms hire from top-tier schools, like the Ivy League, NYU, etc. In my personal opinion, we have a tendency to pre-screen Asians and kikes since they always get high scores but suck when practicing law. We figure this is because many are forced by their parents to do something they don't really love. The best lawyers end up being ones who really enjoy practicing the law. Usually, we work the fuck out of associates to separate the wheat from the chaff.
For example, one of the greatest trial lawyers is Gerry Spence, who went to a shit-tier school in Wyoming, but he was talented because he could bullshit a jury.
Also, in law school you're going up against sociopathic and psychopathic students who will do anything to undermine you. Always watch your back, and the shit you learn in law school will rarely be used in real life. It's fucked up, actually.
There are several distinct type of lawyers, the "hard-working" Asians who usually suck in litigation but are awesome research robots. Then you have the "rainmakers" whose job is to simply bring in business by courting and connecting people to gain clients. These fuckers get paid millions of dollars. Then you have the trial team: extremely at the art of rhetoric, they have the presence and oratory skills that can convince a sandnigger in Iraq to buy sand at $1,000/lb. I hate kikes because they're their own little "group" in the firm and get ahead through nepotism. Finally, the partners are the big-shots and everyone guns to become a partner, since you're essentially secured wealth and status – at least at the firm I work for.
TL;DR
The people who can attain the monopoly on violence create the law. Whoever has the better trained people, more power and the most firepower will attain the monopoly on violence. Usually this is the military. All laws are derived from the monopoly on violence. This "monopoly" creates the stability for a functional and eventually legal government.
Those with the guns and training to beat the other side get to create law.
Joseph Adams
This is excellent work, user. I knew that something of this nature had occured both in the US and elsewhere, but this is the clearest explanation of it I've ever seen.
Jayden Watson
Let's face it, people. It's the best thing that could happen
Xavier Cooper
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Gabriel Jenkins
good thread
Jaxson Ramirez
Do you have any advice for people who might be interested in law school or at least studying the law on their own? Like good books, resources, other learning aides, etc.?
Isaiah Harris
By the way great thread, and nice dubs
Justin King
Thanks OP, nice write-up.
Thomas Ross
Yes, and don't forget nativist LatAm powers. Most Holla Forumsack don't seem to be aware of the mini cold war going on right now over South America. Chile, Peru and Colombia are firmly in the US camp, while Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil and Venezuela form a more or less aligned nativist/regionalist coalition.
