Is the Linux Desktop less secure than Windows 10?

wtf is this user?
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No one used chrome
Legitimate concern, but we can easily mitigate it.
Windows generally have similar problems.

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This guy meant GNOME gay faggotry by "GNU/Linux desktop", so he might have a point.

Botnet cancer nobody should use.

Deprecated, use FFMpeg instead.

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wtf I love telemetry now

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This is an obvious bait thread.

Hey anons,

plz use win10, it's safer^tm

-not microsoft shill brigade

In general, any Linux is more secure than any Windows. That's why Agent Fud doesn't want you to use it.

THE COLLECTIVE WILL SUFFER FOR ENDCHAN'S SINS

they're both garbage; unusable and unsecurable. there's not really any point in comparing them

ironic shitposting is still shitposting and it's starting to get fucking annoying


I would think linux appears less secure only because most vulnerabilities become public pretty quick and in turn also get fixed relatively faster. you can fuck around here and take a look for yourself

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Linux is probably the codebase with the widest readership of all time. Linux is studied worldwide by device driver writers, university students and OS researchers. It is practically impossible to insert spyware with all those eyes looking into any part of Linux. Code that doesn't have a maintainer will get excised from Linux so any attacker to Linux has to stay around and keep his work updated in plain sight of everybody who sees his work and is intimately familiar with what that code does.

So no, a formal audit is not necessary when the contributors are numerous and accountable to one another.

Were you purposefully trying to prove yourself wrong in your own post or...?

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There is NO OS more secure than windows 10.
Eat it linux faggots.

You must be GNU here.

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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

This board is a nightmare.

But it's our nightmare.

I blame reddit and cuckchan and whoever put the word out that we exist

Basically this.

Linux has how many million lines of code? And you're saying people are going to find a subtle bug in there, somehow. But let's take a look at a real-world scenario that actually happened: OpenSSL. It's a library that warrants even closer attention than than most the kernel since it's entire point is to provide security. The code size is significantly smaller by several orders of magnitude than Linux. And yet, a very serious bug managed to remain undetected for a couple years, resulting in lots of production servers being vulnerable during that time period.
When kernel is big and complicated like Linux, it's basically guaranteed there are serious bugs in there. And it was never designed for security to begin with. Linus didn't make that a priority. That seemed ok back in 1991, but we're in the age of botnet now.

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OS security, browser security, hell even plain-text whatever security is really dependent on the user.

Fact: Windows 10's secure kernel design provides the best protection possible on current hardware. But that is it. On IoT (formely known as embedded edition) every other component can be selected individually, just like for Linux, so the OS security depends on the components you use.

In Windows, the user has the ability see things. Instead of explicitly typing specific commands to ask if something is turned on, the user can just see it. The Windows Task Manager, the Firewall, the UAC prompts, the Group Policy editor and service manager, the proxy settings are so easy to use. For me, for an advanced user, it is really hard to misconfigure. And that makes Windows 10 the most secure OS available by design.*


*by design means that it is the most secure OS if we assume the OS and its components are trusted, bug-free and do what they say.

Do you really run every single driver out there?
Linux isn't built for security, but OpenSSL has much less money than Linux. People love to complain that some guy fucked up, but when it's time to pay for dev time all those voices are suddenly silent.

That guy is a super-asshole though. He basically wanted to avoid admiitting that he made any mistakes. That's the entire reason LibreSSL started. The guy wasn't receptive at all to criticism. For all we know he's a certified cianigger.

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Windows 10 also had more users than the GNU OS within the first fucking year. Its a dubious comparison at best. Hackers like targeting high-profile software for e-peen and that's typically always been Windows. Even with all the scrutiny the GNU OS has gotten for being open source people are STILL discovering new security exploits daily.

It is a dubious comparison, but how many more Windows exploits would be found if the source code was open?

Windows has and always will be shit. Have fun getting pwned by just connecting your computer to the internet.

In order to modify the Linux code, you have to understand what it does. If the code is nonsense, then that's a good excuse to excise it and replace it with clearer code. More eyes make all bugs shallow. Security problems are a form of bug and Linus takes any form of Linux bug seriously. OpenSSL had a bug because fewer eyes were looking at it.

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Feels good man.

You see what the OS tells you. You don't know what's going on in there and trying to find out what IS actually going on is against the law. I'll take my commands over that any day of the year.

Jesus, please go back to your IRC circlejerk.

Why?

Allowing computer-illiterates to use technology was a mistake. The internet could have been something great and now it's just a cesspool. This is just one more symptom of it.

Sir, have you read the whole post of only that one sentence you quoted?

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What are you trying to say?
Software using command lines can be just as buggy as software using a GUI. They can both parse configuration files badly and display values that are not true. Also there are many software with GUI which get information from raw hardware data, and many command line software which only use some high level API.

MAKE YOUR OWN HIGH QUALITY RIPS HOLY SHIT

I am saying that Windows is proprietary and can tell you something is disabled when it's not.