The proletariat have no country

no you clot, you were being mocked. Do you understand that? This tirade of yours is shitpost-tier at best which is why precisely none of the replies have been the least bit serious.

pretty sure that's Marx, but I could be wrong. like I said, I'm no expert. I was just interested in hearing a logical, reasoned response, which I'm now finding out no one here wants to do

by killing millions of innocent people by having foreigners invade the country? do you really think that's going to turn out well for anyone in the Western Hemisphere (or even the world)?

Alger Hiss did it. Are you saying its never happened? How do you know its not happening now? Isn't the main communist tactic infiltration and entryism?

I like how you picked out the one ad hominem and argued against that rather than everything else. That's called tone trolling. that's what SJWs do

wasn't my post. it was copied from another thread

So, you're dismissing the whole thing without reading any of the citations? isn't that what SJWs do?

Yeah, I have a hard time trusting this guy's ideas on wizardry based on his credentials.

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do you even citation

yes because every single immigrant is a borg drone with "MUST DESTROY WHITE PEOPLE" playing on a loop in their heads.

nice anecdote. Also, saying "b-but what if this is habbeding" is not terribly convincing.

because your silly little rant is shit post tier, so you're getting shitposts in return.

what fucking citations.

there are two other citations in the OP. Care to tell me what is wrong with those, so we can put this to rest?

nice. saved

nice strawman bro

I see Holla Forums post that all the time. Are you saying that Marx believed that proles do have a country, or are you just being a faggot by screaming "citation" – my guess is the latter

It's not an anecdote. perhaps you should read some history? McCarthy was full of shit with that list, of course. But, you're saying Communists have never tried to infiltrate the government, nor were ever successful? You realize Hiss was part of a larger cell, right? And, that wasn't the only cell that was discovered. This is factual history, not anecdotes. No one in the Academe denies this, you know

There were four cited works in the OP, but the fourth was not about Hegel.

Voeglin's article
pic related book
Alvin Gouldner's article

it isn't if you and your ilk spam it everywhere

No, no excuses. citation or GTFO.

I am not about to waste my time reinforcing YOUR position. Want to not look like shit? have some facts ready. Furthermore, let me bring good ol' Hitchens into this: "that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"

So you can babble about Hiss and communist infiltration to kingdom come but it doesn't mean a fucking thing unless you provide a (you guessed it) citation.

why must you turn this board into a house of lies.

But you haven't really disproved that case. If he's wrong then why are there so much evidence stating he's right? Just the pictures alone that show that 99% of them are males in the age range of 18-35, something is clearly wrong here and no amount of sugar coating it will change that fact. Not all of them have to be against "whites" but just a sizable amount to ruin it for established nations. After all, wouldn't this be a perfect Trojan horse situation?

Consider that the grand majority don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. Yes there are some troublemakers but tarring them all with the same brush isn't fair.

The actual quote is that the working class have no nation - the meaning being that the nation is owned and controlled by the ruling class, not the working class. No working class is the world has a nation; they are owned by them, they do not own them.

Of course people have material human relationships around them; communities, cultures, and connections to people and places. Marx would never deny that. Socialism at it's core is about localism, about bottom-up workers' democracy.

And no, the "left wing" of the governments are not communist and don't have any illusions of being so. They are not proposing the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism. They are proposing reform to it, which is very different.

I'm not going to bother responding to the part about Hegel because its a) stupid and b) not relevant to revolutionary leftism. Hegel was not a socialist, a revolutionary, or even vaguely a leftist.

nice ad hominem bro. you have no idea what my "ilk" is i don't believe in spooks btw

i don't need a citation if you don't disagree. I'm going to assume you agree with me, then, and chalk it up to a win. thanks

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Why are you so adverse to differing ideas? Not all of them are wrong, you know. Also, when you strawman me like that, I have no idea what you're responding to.

Since that's clearly derailing, I'll chalk that up to a win.

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Yes, because communists walk around declaring themselves. It's always interesting to me that you claim fascists are everywhere with no citations, but communists? oh no, can't be.

Obama is a communist or a socialist for sure. probably the former considering his history

wew lad. another logical fallacy

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You're not doing very well, tbh

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it doesn't have to be that they are all really an invading army. all they have to do is destabilize, or even paralyze, the country. I'm not claiming foresight, necessarily.

also,
WHY WON'T LEFTYPOL ADMIT MASS IMMIGRATION HURTS THE WORKING CLASS

WHY WON'T LEFTYPOL ADMIT DESTABILIZATION HURTS THE WORKING CLASS

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Because it doesn't. Paying workers the different amounts based on their citizenship or country of origin hurts a subset of the working class.

Finally, a well reasoned answer. Thank you.

yes they are. Theda Skocpol wrote a book on social revolutions in the modern world and wrote a book in '92 calling for feminism to lead a social(ist) revolution. now, that may not mean the violent overthrow of the government, so I guess that's no technically a communist. But, considering her history I'd say it does.

Also, Obama's history tells us he is. Or, he's just a very sly opportunist. let's not live in denial, here.

Ahh, now you ventured into the logical fallacies again. It's actually quite relevant to everything at the meta-level. If you don't realize that "Theory" is actually instrumentalist – is itself an ideology – then you're not perceiving reality objectively, are you?

Its the most relevant bc if you don't realize you're being lied to then how can you know what to do? I suggest you take a longer look at what I said there. There are a whole slew of implications packed in, and just brushing it off like that is unscientific, anti-intellectual and terribly imprudent.

*based on the different work they do
FTFY

You have no proof that disrupting that system is going to be a net benefit to the world "proletariat" let alone to the working classes directly effected. Why do you live in denial

my jimmies remain unrustled, and I already gave four citations. the redtext was a stylistic, not emotional, decision

The only one emotional, here, is you or you wouldn't be spending so much time trying to troll me. I can see I've really gotten under your skin. :^)

either i'm going mad or you're telling porkies

suuuuuuure

m8 the issue here is your citation phobia.

oh i should add that Skocpol was Bill Clinton's political advisor, so what does that tell you?

see
also Robert Michel's Political Parties, but its not really relevant.

They are all in the OP. Maybe you should learn to read?

it's like if I asked you for a specific street and you gave me a city name.

"Capitalism is, and always will be, […] the […] most efficient of the […] productive forces […] to ever grace humanity. […] Through time, Lenin will prove […] that capitalism […] doesn't real […] and the bourgiesie are just […] a spook. Thanks […] Saint Max."

- Marx, Collected Works, 1871.

But Michels analyses how the political parties function under Capitalism. And he does that through a Marxian point (classes, mode of production, production forces, social reproduction, ideology, and so on and so on).

What about it? Is his theorization sorcery, as well? Maybe you should re-read him.

I don't think you remember one critical piece of information.

If they are really refugees then there should be a healthy mix of actual families, not what they are showing us are refugees. I'm all for helping your fellow man out but you also have to remember that there are people that will take advantage of that kindness to further their own goals. This whole thing seems to reek of a plan to destabilize a nation. After all, this wouldn't be the first time in history this has happened. The hand that feeds them will feed them regardless, so what's to stop them from committing acts of violence under the guise of religion?

Correct, if you're talking about countries that is.
That doesn't mean that we have loyalty to institutions founded to keep us under the boot or the arbitrary plots of land they sit on.
Capitalism is doing a better job of that than we ever did.
Okay McCarthy, then why isn't there anything even close to communist policy being proposed?
How about you try to read something in it? To dispel all the stupid Holla Forums memes you've got rotting your brain. Or at the very least rid you of these stupid red scare mentality that has lead you to believe that anything you don't like is a communist conspiracy.

You sound like my crazy uncle that makes posts about the Illuminati trying to turn people gay with fluoridated drinking water.

Butthurt Nazi detected.

The white working-class just needs to gain 20 IQ-points (through proper diet and reading books) and become a rootless, upper-class urbanite like me.

But the whole fucking book is on that topic

are you fucking retarded?

Nope. Not at all. Not in the slightest. It's about organization, period. Please read the book before you say such silly things. At the end he even claims democracy (of any type) is impossible, though he thinks its still good to try. He does have some (anarcho)syndicalist sympathies, at that time in his life. That's why he went to Italy.

I don't know what you are talking about here. My point about sorcery is that "Theory" is mental manipulation. That is all.

already preempted that argument

already preempted that argument, and its an ad hominem

Anything I say, you'll say "that's not real communism." The point is destruction, not implementing positive policies. That's what you have to understand. Then things become more sensible.

implying. kid, I've read way more than you. your problem is you stopped reading at, probably, Trostky (with maybe the exception of your buttbuddy Zizek). You have 70 yrs of catching up to do.

oh boy, here we go. ad hominem. not replying to that.

more ad hominems

nice ad hominems and strawman, bro. got any more?

Yet you defend countries.
Top fucking kek. Name one thing, just one thing he's done that's even remotely socialist or communist.

No. It is about organization under capitalism.

Just because you figured that's what the response would have been doesn't mean it isn't true. Communists would like to see the fall of capitalism, but that doesn't mean that capitalism falling is caused by communist subversion. Capitalism is itself an unstable system with contradictions in its logic that lead to it creating its own fall. We had nothing to do with it.
An insult isn't an adhominem, learn the difference.
You think they're intentionally trying to destroy capitalism without building socialism? Even if that's the case, name one policy and the Marxian theory its linked to.

You clearly haven't, at least where Marxist theory is concerned.

Or maybe I have 70 years less McCarthyite indoctrination in my head.

Once again, insults aren't ad hominem, learn the difference before you go spouting fallacies like some fedora tipping faggot.

kek, this

want to know how I KNOW you don't even know what the Venona cables were?

I didn't "defend" anything. I said that you have really existing objective material institutions. That's different. That's material, not an idea

Go to a liberation theology church. (liberation theology was first creating by a communist) and practice Saul Alinksy's Community Organizing. While in office it gets more tricky bc he has a whole myriad of institutional prerogatives, not least getting reelected, that he has to worry about.

You should stop being so naive.

No its not at all. It's about organization, period. And, the arguments he made are largely from human nature, or the nature of organizations simpliciter – you're reading your ideology into the book. What part of "Iron Law of Oligarchy" don't you understand? What part of "the Socialists may win but socialism will lose" do you not understand? I suggest you read the book again.

Just because you regurgitate "dialectical" garbage doesn't mean that is in fact what is going on.

And, this goes to my major point: "theory" IS ideology, and you are under the spell of it. its pretty funny tbh

okay, so its a red herring. you're still a retard

I stopped reading there because you clearly are not interested in having an intellectual conversation but rather just throwing around insults, and playing the dick-swing-i've-read-more-books-than-you game. Believe me, you haven't. Just because I don't support your interpretation doesn't mean I haven't read them

Remember, again, what I said about you being under the spell of an ideology that's called "Theory"? lulz

Whiteaker Chambers, etc etc. Holla Forums only reads jargon-filled garbage, not real history, bro
;-)

Holla Forums should read "You are Being Lied To"

nice samefag. you made absolutely no point there

Oh, I'm sure there was espionage, but that's just intelligence gathering. That doesn't corroborate the theory that there was some whimsical conspiracy to destabilize the government from within or that there are still Soviet operatives active a good 25 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Someone wrote this unironically

Hell janitor/mod. How can you be so sure on that?

No one was arguing against the institutions. The meaning of the fact that the international proletariat have no country is that they have no loyalty to institutions meant to keep them under the boot.

Liberation theology is a largely Catholic tendency. Are you suggesting Obama is a Catholic?

Obama engaged in community organizing, therefore he was a communist. Sure, fam, let's just ignore that it wasn't even explicitly socialist, like union organizing or agitation.

Not in his second fucking term. Surely, if he had some ebil communist policies he wanted to implement, he would have done so by now here at the end of his second term.

You should stop being so paranoid. And get off the Holla Forums memes.

If you paid attention to economics instead of this tinfoil hat bullshit, you'd see that the decline we're in is purely economic, and the rut the economy is still in is due to capitalism's contradictions coming to a head.

I'll post it again, fam
youtube.com/watch?v=5Ch5ZCGi0PQ

Just stop. Stop trying to use fallacies, especially when you don't know what they are.

Also, pointing out fallacy doesn't constitute an argument.
yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

Yeah, because your tinfoil hat bullshit is real fucking intellectual.

And yet you weren't able to produce an easy Marx quote when it was requested here

Not someone: three scholars that are cited in the OP and twice again ITT. are you fucking stupid?

I never said they're "Soviets"

*cold and calculating
FTFY

Read Foucault's Knowledge/Power, the first interview in the book. He points out the precise strategy: infiltrate institutions so as to basically create a shadow government, then, when the time is right, you can take over quite easily. His point was that you have to do this not only in government, where the left had already been doing this, but also in things like psychiatry, economics, etc., too, so as not to have to rely on the bourgeois scientists after the revolution and therefore be subverted from within by "reactionaries"

What's also interesting about his project is he goes after basically every institution dominated by jews. just a coincidence, I'm sure.

If you don't know this then you are way behind the curve, user. The point is learning how to recognize them, which is difficult and uncertain. It takes loads of study.

I don't care what some guys with polsci or law degrees said about Hegel being a sorcerer.

The last premise of your statement is unfalsifiable conspiracy bullshit. Just go back to Holla Forums

What is bad about community organizing? Seriously, explain to us OP.

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WRONG! It was started by a "Baptist" pretty sure jewish socialist entryist
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Rauschenbusch

wew lad. you should study more. :^)

as well as liberation theology. you cannot isolate one fact from the other and then try to refute them. You have to look at the whole constellation of facts. It's almost like you're not even a holistic thinker :^)

Also, David Horowitz (former communist) says Obama is a communist. Are you suggesting Horowitz is lying? If so, you're an antisemite!!! :^)

see, there you go again with the ad hominem/red herrings. You should really quit that. It makes you look like an autistic faggot that doesn't even know shit. :^)

You never pointed out a logical fallacy. You made one (an insult) and then moved on as if you had refuted the point. That's either an ad hominem or a red herring. I'll let you pick, smart guy who didn't even know liberation theology was Baptist. So well read, you are!!! :^)

Not an argument. Explain what is in that video that I'm supposed to understand. also
Have you ever thought that maybe you're not dealing with a Holla Forumstard, but with somebody who actually might know more than you? You haven't. If you did, you stop being a faggot. If you did that, you might even learn something. oh wow, to think!!! :^)

Says the user who didn't know liberation theology was started by a Baptist! haahahahahahahaaha :^)

I wasn't interested in producing a Marx quote. You're not attacking my central point. That may not technically be a logical fallacy, but it sure is stupid. :^)

The Venona papers revealed Soviet spies by attempting to decrypt coded messages by intelligence forces of the Soviet Union.

More like it didn't work considering the Soviet Union collapsed rather than the United States, the whimsical part comes in from you believing that these supposed Soviet saboteurs continued to operate even after the fall of the Soviet Union.

monoskop.org/images/5/5d/Foucault_Michel_Power_Knowledge_Selected_Interviews_and_Other_Writings_1972-1977.pdf

Where the fuck does he say that? I've been reading for a bit and all he's talking about is the judicial system in Maoist China.

Even if he did claim anything remotely like that, what gives you the impression that it's factual?

Please just go.

i thought I was supposed to be the anti-intellectual one, since I'm so clearly "from" Holla Forums protip: I'm not. I'm from here originally

What's bad here is that you need to learn how to read. I never made a value judgement, silly. :^)

I know, right? You should just go become a Mason and start diddling little kids. haha (if /fringe/ is to be believed anyway)

I never brought up the Venova Papers. You're misinterpreting my statement. I said the people today are not Soviets.

I know, right! You and I agree on this part!!! :^)

okay hold on. maybe its the second interview. I'll find it.

What.

About sorcery? Yes.

wew

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavo_Gutiérrez
This is the guy that actually named Liberation Theology (in his book appropriately titled A Theology of Liberation). He's clearly Catholic.

This guy may have inspired Liberation Theology, but he was by no means the creator of it. He created a different theology separate from what we know as "Liberation Theology"

He was lying.
Yes. He lies all the time.
I don't care.

No, because you exhibit the knowledge of the average Holla Forumsyp high on infographs.

I'll give you a chance, though. Name and describe one concept from Marx's LTV.

Are you really saying that Michels is talking about HUMAN NATURE?

MY GOD.

Read the fucking book. He explicitly talks about classes, capitalism (or liberalism for your retarded brain), and organization in his present day. What part of the TENDENCY for political/economic centralization didn't you understand?

I guess he didn't live in TRUE CAPITALISM (tm) but on CRONY CAPITALISM.

lmao

okay, so here, if I'm not mistaken, he's talking about subversion from within the State Apparatus as a major strategy and "all the corrupt elements have not yet been purged" – not sure just yet what he means by corrupt, but you can see what he's talking about – subversion of institutions and a fight that was still going on.

pg 18 at the top

here's the quote, if it starts off as

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Resistance,
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Algerian
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also, 26-27 there is a really good discussion about the revolutionary form of institutions. it's not the precise quote that I'm talking about, but it gets to a similar point. at the top of 27 look for the part about the intellectuals being intermediaries. I think you'll like this. it's quite interesting.

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sorry more about mid-to bottom of 27

From what I'm reading, he's just talking about attempts to purge the Left from institutions by the establishment, not the other way around. That's what had been going on for thirty years, not Leftist infiltration.

dude, chill out. we're having an engaging discussion. either join in or fuck off

It's a combination of human nature and necessary organizational structure. its not about one or the other. he makes a lot of arguments, user. please, try to keep up

stop being a retard. the content came from a Baptist and Trinity United where Obama went is Protestant.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_United_Church_of_Christ

I didn't read the rest of your post bc retard.

Please explain. Is it just the word "sorcery" that you have a problem with? What if I called it "Instrumental Ideology" or "Applied Memetics" – would that make you feel more comfortable?

read the citations and stop shitposting faggot. already there have been half a dozen replies just like that. also, see above.

He only takes what he says are tendencies, exactly under the system he investigates. Which is democracy, under capitalism.

Jesus. This is retarded.

Yes, the idea that Hegel was a "wizard" is what I have the issue with.

It's funny watching you call other people retard, when you're clearly lying about ever being a marxist and couldn't even bother to respond to the simple question LTC asked.

You're clearly from Holla Forums. The "you disagree with a jewish guy? ANTISEMITE" Is a Holla Forums meme. I know this because I used to be a Holla Forumstard, it get's posted on 4pol almost daily. You either use Holla Forums now or did at some point.

Also he didn't just come up with the name you retard, maybe you should try and read his book. All the central tenants of liberation ideology came from his book, and he's very clearly catholic.

The "technically a communist" part is what matters here though; what a person calls themselves and what they actually say and do are not always the same.

And I didn't say that theory was irrelevant or unnecessary; I agree with you on its fundamental role in all politics. I am just saying that Hegel in particular informs very little leftist political theory. If you were to try and blast Marx or Proudhon, that would make more sense.

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Oh, I thought you were talking about the Liberation Theology that was supported by the Sandinistas, not black liberation theology.

Black liberation theology has literally nothing to do with Marxism. You're off it, m8.

Not to worry fam, I just asked to you name and describe one concept from Marx's LTV.

Wow, such good faith arguments OP. Really enlightening the dumb leftist masses here with your red pills.

No "we're" not. You're being a retard and insisting everyone take you seriously.

>entryism doesn't exist. that's why they even have a whole name for it – to prove it doesn't exist!
Oh jesus, fuck off.

the quote I was looking for is not as juicy as I imagined originally, but the context is the same/similar. technically he could be talking about violent revolution or infiltration
it's on 59-60

I have a whole RAND Corp document on the idea of subversion and the take-over of institutions, but I'm sure you'll scream "propaganda" so I guess I won't provide it. Btw, the RAND Corp document admits its not only communists that do it.

Is your uncle Alex Jones, Marx Poster?

It's a well-known Holla Forums meme, and I was joking

You're right! you hear that FBI – the Marxists say I was clearly never, and certainly not now, one of them! Proof!!!

Well, you shouldn't quibble over definitions.

even though he was a Baptist. whatever you say buddy.

NOPE! not at all. Being a member of a group that believes they are revolutionary communists is what is at issue. Communists come up with all different reasons for what they do – accelerationism, etc. You can't really judge on that. The discourse and strategies are always changing.

Dude, read the whole book. You have to think more holistically my friend. :^)

He says things like "it is in the nature of people to need leadership" and "it is in the nature of leadership to [essentially lose touch with the membership]"

Yes, its a tendency, and these tendencies added up together create the "Iron Law of Oligarchy"

You don't believe in sexual dimorphism, for instance? Wow. okay Judith Butler. I never knew you were a third wave feminist!!! :^)

Okay, I'm done here since you all are spergs and half the replies are retarded macros that make no sense in the context.

Have a nice day fags.

Have a nice day and remember

I'M RICH — YOU'RE NOT — AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

:^)

BERNIE LOST BC OF ALL THE SPICS AND NIGGERS YOU LOVE SO MUCH

Doesn't blacks and Hispanics not voting for the "handouts" candidate actually disprove the stereotypes?

Holla Forums is probably going to ban you now.

That is actually kind of funny.

Black "liberation" theology has absolutely nothing to do with communism and actual liberation theology was made by a catholic.

My point was you claim to be familiar with leftist literature like Marx or Stirner or Proudhon yet you very clearly aren't.

Strawmanning this hard?

No. Most of the replies were actual rebuttals to what you said. You'd say something retarded, get backed into a corner and then move the goalpost.

>newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2016/03/you-asked-us-why-do-black-voters-support-hillary-clinton

Black people vote for Clinton for basically the same reason white people vote for Trump and previously for Reagan: a false assumption of "experience" that's based on a carefully managed public image instead of actual achievements. This is further egged on by a puerile need to be contrary to people criticizing their personal choices, which is a major flaw in American culture in general.

Ironically, despite mostly voting Democrat, black and white voters seem to share the same empty concerns over "degeneracy" in popular culture and a general tendency toward social conservation and authority, which meshes well with the US's nasty habit of being constantly in fear of boogeymen.

Simply put, most Americans are idiots and the two party system exists mainly to create false ideological dualities so each party can have a consistent voter base.

are you that autistic ayncap that used to post here?

If my uncle wasn't so gaunt, I'd have suspicions.

You still haven't named and described one concept from Marx's LTV like I asked.

that's where you're wrong, kiddo. it's time you met Yuri Bezmenov.
youtube URL because Holla Forums is too low energy to handle an embed, seriously what the fuck.
youtu.be/y3qkf3bajd4

I don't know from what to laugh harder at. Your flag or the fact that you believe that video

Youtube embeds are disabled because google can track you through those you tech illiterate fuck.

wow, it's almost like you agree with Yuri.
pretty sure Google knows who you are when you visit their site directly

Yeah, but people that don't click on the link won't have to worry about getting tracked. Only a retard would cut corners in defending their privacy for the insignificance convenience embedded video gives them. Just kill yourself. You would be doing the species a favor.

Nah, I'm not a collectivist. Society is an ass.
Also I just realized you don't have IDs on this board. Meaning you must not get shilled too often. Meaning you are not actually resisting anything in an effective way, else wouldn't porky be sending armies of shills here to disrupt your activities?
No, skirmishes with Holla Forumslacks who post multiple paragraphs disagreeing with you don't count; on Holla Forums we pretty much only get one-sentence driveby shills, why isn't your board infested with similar posts?

Because it isn't nearly as popular as 4pol.

I was speaking about 8pol, which, judging by post count, is still about an order of magnitude more popular than 8leftypol. And yet…
Macs have their share of malware, even though they're an order of magnitude less numerous than WinPCs. This happens even though hackers and ransomware authors have nowhere near the same need for total domination and penetration of their evil ways that porky supposedly does, let alone the budget necessary to achieve this.

I don't know what your point is. The left movement is pretty much dead anyway. There are legitimate right wing populist movements and parties. There is nothing of the same for the left as of now.

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It's not, learn your fallacies

What the heck, this board is so easy to get baited.

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Stop using meme arrows, you fucking retard.

ITT, commietards prove once again they are unemployed no-life loser leeches on society whose life consist of shitposting on the internet.

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nice projection m8

the critic is centered on the notion of nation-state, not a geographical place with cultural affinity and social bonds.

focusing on marxist though is bad but ignoring the most important thinkers of europe with jewish heritage isn't. Nice contradiction. Don't read Spinoza or David Ricado guys be a dumb Holla Forums in a bubble of notions created by fascist porkies.

waste of time, read Weber instead, it's based on Weberian sociology. And anarchists have talked about it for decades before, nothing new in that statement.

thought**

You've been memed on.
facebook.com/declasscucked.memes/posts/1703643399911864

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I'm not OP.