Hi Holla Forums, I have a little game that I thought my friends here would be interested in...

Hi Holla Forums, I have a little game that I thought my friends here would be interested in, I'm going to pretend to be a complete Holla Forumsack and other Anons try to counter a typical Holla Forumsack's arguments as best they can, I thought this would be a good way to try and develop our argument skills and will be a good laugh at the same time.
I'll start off by the usual…
Here's some typical Holla Forums views.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, WEBM related is what a Holla Forumsack actually finds good music…

We don't need a devil's advocate when Holla Forumsyps are regularly hopping in here to say hi.

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kek still no valid arguments

We go through this every day either way. It's a waste of time. I have enough of Holla Forumsacks as it is.

Hm, then enlighten me, what would be a valid argument against it? I see tons of retard Holla Forums users running amock here but I don't see any decent counterarguments, maybe if we show them that their arguments are retarded by showing that our arguments and reasoning are more strong then maybe they might fuck off or at the very least genuine lurkers may see our point of view.

I'm mainly more curious as to what the average user's arguments are here, I know that there's tons of stormweenies trolling here but I'm genuinely curious here, maybe my plan is a bit shit but how would one counter those guys? Maybe just ignoring them because they clearly aren't going to take our logic as fact are they?

Then you aren't reading the post. Why do you think people would be able to formulate better arguments or you are a Holla Forumsyp trying to make feel better about yourself by posting your rhetoric here and expecting the leftist to jump at the opportunity to debate with you alt-right retards.

There was just a thread about jews where one guy was posting fake talmud quotes and using pathos to argue. If you think these people are efficient arguers you should fuck off.

*trying to feel better about yourself

And I meant to say: Why do you think people are going to come up with a better argument in this particular thread than the arguments people use when they're actually engaged in a real argument, with a real Holla Forumstard and their infographs.

If you think the Holla Forumslyps might have a point you can go to Holla Forums.

This is a shit thread. We want to discuss stuff relevant to our leftist cause. Not come up with counter arguments to shit that gets spewed here daily. You can't show a Holla Forumstard his argument is retarded. You can't show him other academic studies that might conflict with his preconceived notions of race or jews etc, because they rely on unfalsifiable statements to prove their points.

Like "da j00s" infiltrated the academia so this study is already biased and false without first looking into it.

Why do we want to come up with counterarguments that when it boils down to it, they will have the last word on the matter because of some info graph proving the reptilian jewish monopoly game we're all playing

Fuck off.

No dude. It is true that people respond to them with memes and allegations but for a lot of the reasons its because they've gone through the same dialogues over and over and over and over and over again, so people are just tired of all of it.They just call you kikes, niggers, sjw's, betas and pretty much anything without really discussing seriously. They end up harshly derailing the thread and so much focus on their spasms makes discourages the serious anons trying to make descent, in-depth posts and drives them off. I'd much rather discuss and debate other leftists here than go through that obnoxious show with the pol people. That isn't to say that every non-leftist here is stupid, a waste of time or from pol though.

also, I forgot to say, I'm so used to the pol people and have become so overly conscious, that I'm even suspecting OP to be one that would use this thread to link back to his friends to show them our arguments and get a whole lot of "fun".

Last time, I went through this with just one, debating him with a marxist here, it took about 300 comments until he started telling us how we may have a point and have influenced his perspective. He then made another thread asking for socialist reading materials.

It's so obviously a Holla Forumslack, or someone who just migrated here from Holla Forums and isn't sure if he should make the switch.

But I disagree you can convince a Holla Forumstard he's wrong. And even then it's not worth it. They should lurk more unless they're ready to come out and discard the word kike, cuck and nigger from their vocabulary.

Nah, it happens. Several people here have reported as being Holla Forumsacks until they came here and argued. I just think its a waste of time and shouldn't be our main preoccupation.

Real polack here, honest question :
Why are leftists okay with doing blanket statements about porkies but somehow feel it's wrong to do so with other demographics like suggests ?

Because it never happened.
*Leninist retarded kind of socialism never worked
I'm too lazy to write more than a one-liner for this.
Argument is not elaborate enough.
Partially correct
Correct
Leftist ideas are being torn apart by the very people who claim to support it(Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz etc), the truth is being exposed because people are waking up to the fact that rightism is killing the West.
Argument is not elaborate enough.
Argument is not elaborate enough.

Enough?

It's about memery, I personally don't mind nigger or kike, but cuck is way too overused

I'd say cuck in pol is as used as porky is in leftypol. That said, I think we can go beyond the memery. Why is wanting to kill all the wealthy people any better than wanting to kill all the kikes or niggers ?

The frequency of cuckposting outside of Holla Forumss is much higher though and it can be quite annoying. Maybe I'm getting old, but I prefer the good old faggot-based insults
Technically they don't need to be killed.

One is for a meaningless trait people are born with, the other is an economical role people consciously play that exploits others.
If you can't tell the different than you're an idiot.

ffix'd myself

that's because pol has more traction than leftypol.

Neither do niggers and kikes. The point is that leftypol wants porkies out of the picture as much as pol wants niggers and kikes out of the picture.

If you can't tell the different than you're an idiot.

You are born into that economical role just as much as you are born as part of a race. The difference is that pol and leftypol view life and relations through different mechanisms.

And shitposts so hard it leaks eveywhere, which can be quite bothersome, as I don't like having politics in my animu discussion.
How do you get them out of the picture without killing them? We're not at the stage of genetic engineering yet.

Send them into another country.

So this is satire, yes?

Nigger :D

Dude, like, don't make me think.

Socialism is like, good and stuff.

Fuck having laws n borders n shit.

this is bullshit. Holla Forums doesn't even say half those things. if we're going to hone our skills we should at least use decent, real arguments

of courshe!

There's a difference between describing how a material relation works( like looking at the system and thus what is required to maintain wealth, such as abusing employers with low wages or using slave labor in developing countries) and looking down on that, than looking at an ethnic group who could encompass everyone from a prole to a porky. An ethnic group like "blacks" or whatever can have rich porky blacks( like one of the exec's at citibank was black at one point) or the ones you see poor as dirt in ghettos.


So that's why. It's based on how a material relationworks. We also consider your "racialism" to be pseudo-science.

So there is a difference. Your talking about killing/deporting an ethnic group that could have a role anywhere in the system. We're talking about changing the fundamentals of the system.

If you don't understand this, I can't help you. We're not the same. Tankies or Nazbols come close to you, but don't try and compare Holla Forums nazis to anarcho-communist or mutualist.

Not as much, no. WIth a revolution you can change your relation to the means of production, you can't change your race at all.

Being against capitalism is far different than being against black people or Jews. Holla Forums thinking the two are the same just shows a lack of understanding of what a socialist viewpoint actually entails (not surprising since they think that it's all about SJWs/Feminism/Islam/LBQT/etc etc).

If you eliminate private property you can change all capitalists into workers. So through economic change we eliminate the problem. Race can't be changed.

Another big difference is that race only has immaterial basis for determining livelihood (i.e it only affects us in ways that we imagine it does), whereas whether you own production or you produce affects the world on a material basis. Obviously Holla Forums believes that race is the basis for everything in the world.