Mid-red pilled and questioning

I'm not often on this website but I'm sympathetic to a lot of the anti-Hillary stuff I read on here when I occasionally check in. I have an honest question for you all though, which I hope can be answered by someone without everyone just ignoring me/calling me a shill, etc. I'm not very well versed in politics and economics, so forgive me if the question sounds unduly naive or whatever. Anyways, here goes.

It seems like a major (and I think very justifiable) complaint people have with Hillary is that she is essentially a robot, bought and paid for by the big money, big government, globalist "system" instead of someone who genuinely cares about the welfare and wellbeing of the American people. I myself think she almost certainly is that. My question is why the same people who are adamantly opposed to Hillary, a person who wants to reinforce such an agenda and maintain the status quo of a government with more and more control over its people, why these same people are almost unwaveringly pro-capitalism. It seems to me, in my, again, admittedly underinformed sphere, that unbridled capitalism is what has, in large measure, led to the state of affairs we are in: a few small companies got bigger and bigger, gained more and more money, and then spent and continue to spend a great deal of this money on "buying" politicians in order to solidify their place in the hierarchy, leading to a government that is in large part controlled by big international corporations, etc. So I guess my question is, if you dislike Hillary, how can you still like unbridled capitalism, the very force which, in large part, paved the way for such a robot to exist and succeed in the first place?

Again, I realize that in my formulation I may have conflated a number of different issues. I expect answers to call me on that, and I hope they will explain where I'm confused (i.e. "it's not big businesses, but rather international unions that centralize power, that are the problem" etc). I guess, yeah, if the elites running things in their best interest at the common people's expense is the problem, why do you still advocate for the capitalist system when it raises individuals who abide by its principles up to the height where they can essentially purchase the government and run it in accordance with their own interests?

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cakravartin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Julius-Evola-Ride-the-Tiger-Survival-Manual-for-the-Aristocrats-of-the-Soul.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_(disambiguation)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces
media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1421139130259-0.pdf
media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1415712411857-0.pdf
transart.org/wp-content/uploads/group-documents/129/1389981663-schmitt_concept_of_political.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=NUhYJ2crKQk
mangafox.me/manga/kutsuzure_sensen/
forumforthefuture.org/project/megacities-move/overview
gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=A97A4CB4A88C7F019C62BE3F7D15921A
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

Oy vey

You're right OP, unbridled capitalism is bullshit, and fully Jewish. This is why you need a strong leader at the top with the power to put CEOs in a fucking box if they do anything against the people or sell out to foreign interests. This is also why many here hold views that are NatSoc/Fascist in nature.

Literally nothing?

Lurk more you fucking niggerfaggot.

Die in an oven, kike

Very helpful. Thanks.

This isn't a libertarian board. Generally speaking people here realise that power is power. Financial power is just one such power, and so is demagoguic power (especially as the intellect and morals of the nation declines under onslaught).

I personally don't believe in any universal political or economic ideology. What works for a small low-corruption high-income White country like Switzerland will not work for a massive multicultural empire. A nation like America must either be an enlightened dictatorship, or a dysfunctional populist oligarchy, or balkanised.

Communism has killed over 100 million people in peace time. On purpose.

Anarchy can't exist, any liberal-type such as lolberturdian goes straight into the anarchy bin.

Capitalism goes to shit when jews are involved.

Solution: Kill all the jews.

Lurk more.

oh boy, you are new

I'm going to say this now, that the USA and the western world in general isn't capitalist, it's corporatist. Now I'm not saying whether it's a better system or not but it is at least, slightly more moral. I'm personally in the belief of meritocracy with nationalist leanings but that's outside the scope of this post.

Materialism in general, and overproducing a bunch of shit no one really needs, aren't the way things always were. The best ways have been demonized and hidden from the masses.

It is much, much more nuanced than that. Watch Masters of Money you newfag. The root issue is the monetary system and the final boss are the Central Banking Cartels. Also pic related. Free market capitalism without central banks is ideal. Hitlers Economic miracle was accomplished by nationalizing the banking system and issuing debt free currency, other measures he implemented like price controls and such were a mistake but Germany succeeded despite them, not because of them.

Being passive aggressive is beneath you bud. Drop the liberalism and live a happier life.

The only people supporting unbridled capitalism here are kikes and deluded Americans that didn't lurk enough.


Pretty much this. I'd also add that kikes don't believe in any universal or political ideology either, they will adopt whatever advances their parasitic tribe and attack whatever endangers it at the moment.

So at one point they will attack Monarchism, at another they will defend and promote it. Same goes with Marxism, various modes of Capitalism etc.

But you won't see them defend national-socialism and similar ideas (maybe only temporarily hoping to co-opt it or to use it to fight their current enemies) because it's inherently anti-Jewish, as there is much less room for parasitism than with other systems.

Wasn't passive aggressive. I have a degree in ancient greek and catholic philosophy, so I appreciate and can get behind a lot of what I'm reading here about tradition, traditional culture, and living virtuously, and about the corrosiveness of our abjectly materialistic age. Just trying to get a better orientation in the conversation.


That Evola dude sounds like a boss.

The west is not anything resembling capitalism. The west is like a giant theme park, with rides and various concession stands. It superficially appears to be capitalism, but the prices are all rigged, beers are $10 a cup at every stand. There is regulation, you can't open a $10 beer stand without the parks permission which is never going to happen. Capitalism in this environment is all illusion. It just has the trappings of existing.

Back to real life. if you want to open a store, you have to get permission from your government. To get that permission you will agree to let them dictate the minutia of how you operate your store. You will have to buy all your products from one of the government authorized vendors.

Once you are in the system it readily becomes apparent that there is literally no features resembling capitalism. That what we actually have is unfettered communism.

You're quite right, unbridled capitalism leads to these things.

But capitalism is never unbridled. Nor should it be. All sorts of laws and regulations govern it. And they need fixing to prevent this state of affairs from occurring.

A first step in the right direction would be the outlawing of lobbying (as the blatant corruption that it is) and the pyramid scheming of central banks.

Ride the Tiger is a pretty good place to start if you're interested

cakravartin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Julius-Evola-Ride-the-Tiger-Survival-Manual-for-the-Aristocrats-of-the-Soul.pdf

I think that's one positive reading of fascism

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_(disambiguation)
from
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces

An authorative power governing for the group (and against the outside). In this system, people can work and sell (capitalistically) and gain power, but every transaction is watched over by another force (which is horrific in all historical realization of this).
So in fascism, you could have a tech company which makes some citizens rich, and sells products used by the people, but the government would not e.g. allow for one company to do stuff like lumber all woods in the country, because it's very bad for the group/citizens.

In our capitalistic system, you have the corporations take over the government and nobody in power gives a shit about the country having trees and fresh air, because the companies motive is the only one pushing for development.


Italian Fascism opposed liberalism, but rather than seeking a reactionary restoration of the pre-French Revolutionary world, which it considered to have been flawed, it had a forward-looking direction.[5] It was opposed to Marxist socialism because of its typical opposition to nationalism,[6] but was also opposed to the reactionary conservatism developed by Joseph de Maistre.[7] It believed the success of Italian nationalism required respect for tradition and a clear sense of a shared past among the Italian people, alongside a commitment to a modernized Italy.[8]

Some advice, this "website" is not about the election, in case you thought so, and most people here are not classical liberal capitalists, but national socialists.


Based on the fact that you're not in tears about people being literal nazis here, I think you'll fit in just fine, remember to lurk, though.

If politicians don't have incredible power over markets and industry, then there is no point in buying them off is there?

So when Liberals tell you to give them more power to regulate business one thing they're doing is driving up their value to those very same Evil Capitalist Fatcats.

I hope this observation stimulates your cortex.

Are you familiar with the jewish question?

Is the hope here that Trump will be a step towards this?

Sweet, I'll watch that shit right now.

Do you have any pro-fascist/NatSoc reading suggestions that provide a good overview of the system's strengths relative to our current situation? Relative to Marxism and Capitalism in general?

As you can imagine, most "scholarly" accounts of fascism I've encountered focus pretty heavily "the horrors of the holocaust" or things like that, so an account that is level-headed and explores its superiority to other systems without either diving into anti-nazi polemic or going in the polar opposite direction of complete anti-semitism would be best. (I recognize that many or most of you aren't too happy about Jews, but I feel like an account that wasn't too saturated in anti-Semitism might be most useful for someone who is surrounded by leftists and wants to get a rational account of NatSoc without causing my interlocutors to rage quit when I start talking about jews…..or do most people here genuinely believe the problem, most of all, stems from the jews, and that any NatSoc account that doesn't include them is avoiding the heart of the issue in the contemporary world?).

You can also read this OP. Its only about 50 pages.
media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1421139130259-0.pdf

If you want NatSoc stuff you can check this thread out

lol, laughing at poorfags right now

Judging by the first couple pages this looks like it will be incredibly useful. Thanks user.

Yes, that's why the Jews promote government intervention in economics through The Fed and communism/socialism.

Yes without a doubt.
NatSoc can never be not anti-Semitism. Everything in NatSoc is anti-jewish and not in the way that it just want to gas the kikes but in the way that it makes it impossible for a jewish ways to flourish. NatSoc is still NatSoc with or without jews it just happends that everything that NatSoc is opposed is promoted/performed by jews.

Ebola's pretty cool.

He walked outside during air raids in Austria to test his "karma." Too bad he got paralyzed due to it.

The whole point of our entire ideology can be bottled down to "DON'T LET A BUNCH OF CRAZY RICH FUCKS SELL OUT THE ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY", it applies to all nations wich, idealy i9n our program, would be homogeneous.

IE: We want africans, in africa, united, and fighting the people who are driving them to slavery 2.0 in diamond mines, as much as we want british people, in britain, to remain british, while conciously blocking ill-intentioned/greedy/shady people political power.

Our crux is not about killing everyone different, or taking over the galaxy, it's about making the world a better, more organized and concious place as a whole, not a mock slavery debt system painted as a socialist utopia.

The hope obviously in this situation would then be that the most powerful of the homogeneous nations wouldn't get too offensively power-hungry, exploitive, and imperialist, or too defensively interventionist, which history suggests is dubitable.

So what do you suggest is optimal, then? If the politicians don't have power to affect positive change because of their impotence in the face of business, but bestowing more power upon them just makes them more liable to corruption, how do we exit the cycle?

I don't really have any concise reading, every text is pushing politically.
The economic aspect of fascism which I tried to present from its potential positive reading has, like the system in general, the attribute of having to put the group it governs (which it wants to proper) in opposition to others.
The dilemma is that there'll always be a fight. Otherwise, if you have a fascist or technocratic system FOR the whole world, we in the west would have to make massive cuts.

media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1415712411857-0.pdf
transart.org/wp-content/uploads/group-documents/129/1389981663-schmitt_concept_of_political.pdf (couldnt find a better pdf)
when diplomacy fails, war is an extension of politics. - Machiavelli
War is the continuation of politics by other means. - von Clausewitz

Fuck off back to lefty/pol/, you commie faggot.

stop.

Ignore the obvious shill.

youtube.com/watch?v=NUhYJ2crKQk

Check this out too, it is pretty long, but it ranks up there with TGSNT in terms of importance, even if you aren't NatSoc it is important to watch to gain further understanding and historical context of the philosophical underpinnings of NatSoc.

Mostly Hoogeneous states will solve this problem naturaly, by allying locali to those who are closer to them ideologicaly and ethnicaly, to prevent agression from larger statis, like what is happening now between poland, hungary, and the slavs as a whole.

Ethnostates tend to stick to themselves, but can be very cooperative when faced by an external agressor. Wars will always happen, no matter what we do, the truth is that people sometimes are irracional. Our idea is to minimize the effects of war, from wars on a global scale to have wars stricly on a local sclae if they absolutely cannot be avoided.

I cant write to save my life when i'am drunk, sorry about that.

Why would you want that over a world where only Europeans exist? Even if Africans stop being niggers and so forth for the other races, their land has abundant resources which Europeans could use. I've only seen alt-right people ever express a desire for nonwhites to improve themselves, while avoiding the logical conclusion that is the eventual race war that will result in only one race remaining, because they either have too many nonwhite friends, or because they themselves are nonwhites.

Pol is more of a facist board.

Holla Forums is a nationalistic board with numerous flavors of nationalism and fascism is no way near the biggest. Most would probably identify themselfs as NatSoc but i think that the distribution is not that uneven among the most common ideologies.
Also

That image is such female bullshit lol, its the opposite of the truth and it pisses me off. The white middle class is the class suffering in America, the lower brown horde is getting their every wish .

"We lie for you" lol whoever made that image belongs in that category, it's communist naive-teen tier garbage

Yes, it does, and the resources in africa belong to africa, as much as every single inch of soil in italy belongs to italians.

If the africans decide to do good on what they have, or if they cimp up and ruin themselves, its up to them, not to us.

You see, natsocs need to understand that peace is not a shameful thing, hitler understood that, and so should the natscos on /pol. Remember, the fuhrer didin't want to take over the entire planet, he wanted to reform and fix german society, and as he put it brilliantly, "Every year of this war robbed him of this precious work".

This is what we should focus on, making OURSELFS better as a society, not destroying or overtaking others. Thats is costly, counterproductive, and quite frankly, a delusion.

What exactly would be the strategy? sacrificing the cream of our new society, young military minded intelligent men? No thanks.

There is Billions of people in africa, dangerous and crazy people, trigger happy and malicious, and we are better off not associating with them in anyway other than shooting their boats when they appear on the horizon.

Or we could create a gigantic nuclear wasteland on the heart of the planet, with no guarantees of any results in regards to advancing our racial interest, not to mention then the resources would vanish along with everything else, when we could be buying them if needed, there will be plenty of money to invest on our national interest once we dont have a huge mass of useless lazy people living on welfare and dragging society down with it.

And no, i'am not shilling, i simply believe this dream of a white army of swasticas invading africa for lebensraum to be absolutely retarded, when we take power, the last thing we should do is start interventionism, thats whats destroying america in the first place.

I also believe EVERY SINGLE jew with israeli ties should be investigate and heavily prosecuted if they engaged in criminal behavior, especialy finacial fraud, and those who are innocent (lel) should be sent to live in israel as soon as possible, with all their savings, property and secure passage, as a sign of goodwill, we have enough fairytales about babies and bayonets already, we don't need more.

tldr. imperialism is bad, it leads to multiculturalism and decline, and complete planetary hegemony of any race is a very very distant future, not to mention an agressive and expansive military is the best tool to bakrupt a nation in disguise, our military should be done after the Swiss model, deadly, reliable, cheap and socialy confortable for the people who adopt it, our weapons are strong enough and can operate in a large enough scale so that we dont need a billion zerglings like the USSR. Times have changed, but so have we, and our victory is assured, only a matter of time.

Absolutely everything you said was correct.

tl;dr Holla Forums does not support unbridled capitalism. Lack of intelligent regulations got us here (such as on banking). Shit like carbon tax is just stupid and a diversion from real regulations that would be required. You would think the Federal Reserve would be responsible for this, but the Fed is a private corporation unbeholden to the US government that only exists to make money for its shareholders. Watch Mike Maloney's videos on YouTube for how the Fed makes up money.

To be honest I had no relevant images so I google image searched "Capitalism" and that one came up. Nice deconstruction of the image's idealogical foundations though! I hadn't looked very closely at it.

lel

the most thing in common in several Holla Forums users is nationalism/patriotism and hate for open borders globalism.

then it comes in several flavours. nationalist libertarians, national socialists, fascists, authoritarians, nationalist democrats, religious nationalists, list goes on.

that's an oxymoron

It is, but sort of forming new shape here in Holla Forums. Maybe a new ideology grabbing qualities of the two of them will appear.

It was a reflection of the tone I thought he was taking. Had to go find it and download it to post it. Look at the file name before you jump to assumptions about something being posted unironically.

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if its a meta image then its very clever

tl;dr see pic

Reminder that Jesus is a translation of his real name, Yeshua.
Jesus was the top jew.

Of course kikes pretend to hate yeshua and fool christians into thinking that kikes "killed jesus". As long as they stay good obedient religious altruistic anti-racist anti-nationalistic goyim, all is well.
Especially if they worship a jew.

better version of last pic

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anime and nazis go together like peanut and butter

HONORARY ARYANS

He's right though. Capitalism was thought up by Adam Smith, a goy; but libertarianism (the worship of unbridled capitalism where the free market is in charge of demographics and morality) was thought up by jews like (((Milton Friedman))) and (((Ayn Rand)))

Is that an actual anime that you can watch?

at least everyone is autistic

it's a mango
mangafox.me/manga/kutsuzure_sensen/

Thanks user, have a track I really like as a thank you.

The problem is that you're trying to enforce those as the true definitions of those words. Corporatism is all people really think of when capitalism is said. If corporations were not able to buy off the government, then the current jewish system would not be possible.

Companies like McDonalds would not really be able to function in the way that they do without it, because they have overhead by having the set up that they do. It's just that nobody can afford the regulations and so on to open a small business and compete with those prices.

I think that both a truer enforced free market no meddling and a more fascist style economic policies should be looked at. First comes stopping the Final Solution of the Aryan Problem.


That's good, new people every day. That's how you affect change.

The various cuckservative outlets are hilarious, they really think this will just end if they can make trump lose.

Materialism is definitely a huge problem, though. The implication is always that all that matters is the amount of money in the economy. The people in it don't matter.


Agreed.


That's more about the illegals. There could be upwards of 50 million of them. The 11 million number is fake and old, based on census records from a decade ago. If they stay much longer, voting will no longer matter because they'll just vote their commie system from wherever they left back in again. He has shifted speech to where we can begin to talk about what an issue blank slateism is, however, which is good.

There are enough illegals that they murder locals in drunk driving in rural areas in my state. I'm not in a border state.

National Socialism isn't unbridled capitalism. NSDAP Germany had for more regulations than Weimar or Imperial Germany for all manufacturing and goods purposes. Of course one of the most important distinctions between it and Communism for these purposes is that the regulations are not only reasonably maintained for the goods they apply to, but that they also are meaningful regulations.

Hmm, would us writing a short distillation of Natsoc ideals, without too much (but it would have to have some) Jew-naming, be a worthwhile project?
We talk of entry-level redpills a lot, such a text could serve as a "final step" redpill for the short-attention-span normie.

Possibly. It wouldn't really need to have any. Just attacking corporatism, communism, globalism, materialism. Cover the bases right, and I don't see why it couldn't be done.

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No, that doesn't mean actual gun battles. It means you only make deals with other groups if you think it is in your groups best interests.

What was that saying? 'The best deal is one in which both parties think they ripped the other off'?

Wait, is that supposed to be a positive video??!

I'd rather fucking kill myself than live in a place like that.

Last I checked Corporatism was a Fascist or at least National Syndicalist economic doctrine, you mean Corporatocracy user

I think (and hope) it's meant to be negative, but I don't even know any more.

In today worlds people confuse, order with control Blinded to see that Nature is Organized Chaos in his purest forms, and yet it has Order as the judge ,jury and executioner.

The infantilization of modern society orchestrated by the kikes is truly dystopic.

Calm down ESL.
Stop overcapitalizing things like a spastic tinfoil and use punctuation correctly.
Faggotte

Hi newfags. That video is indeed meant to be positive- a glimpse into the sick mind of the liberal. We had threads about them months ago.

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i Do, it to not be ,tracked

You can either signal your "membership" to this "community", or how casually you browse when you find the time between slaying pussy and making fat stacks, but not both. Choose.

Hi, Holla Forums.

Damn, this is some serious paranoia. Believe what you want to believe, I guess, my fellow Nazi.

If we apply hegelian dialetics, adopting capitalism and socialism as thesis and antithesis, respectively, the synthesis of said reaction will result in our doctrine. Fascism. Or whatever the fuck you want to call it.
The point is, we have overcome the conventional and neverending conflict between left and right, we move forward.

What is forward?

Capitalism is just a fact of life. Trade between people is as old as time. Capitalism worship is the real problem. Why should one person own more than one home, just to gain profits from renters that can only not afford a house because people like you have so many. They're basically enslaved to you, you absorb all their money that could have gone into an asset of their own. Why should any of your country be sold to chinese just for numbers on a screen? Why should labor be exported, or cheap labor imported? Any organisation that only exists for profit has no business existing. All your arable land is covered in cash crops. All your resources are dug up. To be sent overseas. They get all your stuff. You get some numbers on a screen. People rabidly defend the rights of capitalists to do whatever they want. Citizens usually lose. Jews and asians in particular like to justify any bullshit they want to do through law. They think legality can justify anything.The landlords and the bankers seriously believe they aren't going back into the oven.

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It's an abstract concept of progress in the original meaning of the word, not economical progress, not social progress and not technological progress, but all of them at once.
But how are we to achieve "progress"?
For once we need to accept that evolution exists and get rid of the undesireables from our society. Second, we need to focus on becoming the" ubermesnch ", dedicating our efforts towards becoming the best possible person in our reach, both physically and mentally, instead of wasting our resources on pure hedonism. And last, we shall make all knowledge public, no longer should any of our race be tricked into a religious cabal by (((those who have interest))).
If a society achieves these three prerequisites, it doesn't matter if it's anarchist, communist or capitalist,it will thrive. However, which form of government would be able to achieve such societal changes? Lurk more and find out.

underrated post

I refused to believe this is meant to be positive. Don't you lie about this shit. Nobody could see that and think "Oh, how nice".

You're not redpilled, lurk more

forumforthefuture.org/project/megacities-move/overview

A lot of your criticisms can be levied towards globalism and not capitalism. I'm all for limiting the kike businesses like Wall Street through things like the reintroduction of glass steagal, but my family owns a few homes that we rent. It's not a cake walk by any means and I've bled plenty taking care of these properties. Yes it's for money, but the benefit I'm providing is lodging without needing to buy a home in case a person is testing out a new job and area before committing to a purchase.

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Holla Forums is anti-marxist and anti-capitalist

Homes are for families. You'll find some other way to chase money

Would Fascism as alternative work even in principle, assuming were guarantee to have enough resources within the boarders of our group?

you might think that you're increasing your privacy by varying your syntax metrics but actually you're the only one who's outside of the normal range so you stick out like a sore thumb. back to the drawing board sperglord.

The idea is that the leaders are less willing to act against the interests of the people because of the high social trust that exists in an ethnostate.

There is a ton of research showing that people are less willing to act in social ways (giving to charity for example) when they think that their effort is going to go to people unlike them.

Is that alone enough to run a civilization on? No probably not, especially in this age where professionals are trained in the art of dehumanizing their fellow man. But the alternatives of white genocide and extreme multiculturalism are so alarming that it's an attractive alternative.

Slavery through usury is a problem. The dysgenic effects of welfare are a problem.

Wanting a meritocratic market where actors are forced to act in the best interest of their race is not the same as supporting neo-liberal "capitalism".


Lurk more faggot

this is fucking terrifying

What is more likely to promote war, Fascism or completely unregulated capitalism?

Fascism because all the good goys will have to put a stop to their ways

Why should anyone own anything.

Off to the gas chamber with you, Schlomo.

Richard Tedor's "Hitler's Revolution" is a great read, and it goes into great depth about what Hitler's actual economic ideas were. It's pretty light on discussion in any direction about Jews, it mostly focuses on the realities of NatSoc Germany.

Here's a download link for your convenience, but if you find that it was a good book, buy a physical copy and support the author, please.

gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=A97A4CB4A88C7F019C62BE3F7D15921A

Wtf I hate land lording now

Life is long. May you find your way safely to an oven some day.

You sound like some bitter poorfag. It really doesn't suit what I would imagine the average user of this site to be.

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You're just a product of your environment so it's not really your fault. Few people here do or will ever own a home if the current trend continues, because few people do now and most people here are young. I seriously doubt you're going to be spending much time on this site and then decide to dig your claws in when you realise being a usurer or a landlord is becoming a hazardous thing to be. You'll probably adapt.

The problem with the housing market is chinks buying up a bunch of homes without living in them so they can hide assets overseas and avoid China's capital control laws, as well as banks inflating housing prices by credit expansion propped up by ZIRP. In every single market in which credit is artificially boosted by government intervention prices go up, same reason Fannie Mae taking over the Student Loan business caused tuition to skyrocket.

Because they won it through conquest - be it military or migrational or whatever. Those boundaries are not set in stone, but flesh. Your 'nations for those nations' argument ignores the fact that humans are resource hungry and will inevitably fight one another for dominance eventually.

I can agree that each nation is better separate and distinct from others with fruitful cultural exchange between them, but how do you account for expansion? To the victor goes the spoils as usual, or that somehow Israel still belongs to the Jews because at some point in the past they claim they owned it? Or to the Palestinians after they were displaced themselves? What about Tibet and other forms of displacement or conquest throughout history? The Greeks and Romans migrated into those areas too and conquered the native populations - was that justified or not?

Crony capitalism, whatever you want to call it.

He's not lying.

he's something i just though off as a way of counter acting agenda 21

the Originally named
being the establishment of many small community instead of single megacities

basically where i live there was an old lay (since changed) where every 10 miles there had to be a town ( a town being 1 city building usually a post office one school, and at least 2 residents) s propose we go back to that using the pre established grid of roads, most of these types of towns are still out there just "abandoned" so im going to green text the basic run down of the plan


im not the most clever goy but i know what i want and what i don't

and i want to live in a self sufficient Country community not in Mega city 1

i also don't want to pay taxes on land that i fucking own and have payed off

all this agenda 21 stuff had me thinking of how we can counteract it, and i think my proposal, being relatively simple could work

I'm not of any particular position on the general ideal of this post. I have to attack this part anyway.

While America wasn't founded by doing this, it could have been. You're saying it would not be possible to actually do what SJWs accuse Christopher Columbus of doing. It is of course possible. That also is by no means 'interventionism'.

Not only that, if people were having 10 children per couple this
is not happening, because even with deaths you've kept enough around to replace the deaths. This is only true while people have maybe one child.

That all said, no matter what is done even if all you do is cut off foreign aid there will still be up to billions of starvation deaths. In the meantime they may have hunted all forms of lions and other such creatures to extinction. There actually is no good ending at this point.

You won't learn anything if you can't learn for yourself. Might as well go on welfare and become a leech.

Yes, it is. At the same time it looks a good deal like the world in games like Remember Me.

FYI, they now call it agenda 2030 if you're going to go look anything up. The 21 was for 2021, which didn't give them enough time.

Yeah I really don't like the current system where you have to pay your property taxes or else it just goes up on auction. If it's farmland all you have to do if you are agracorps is salt the land then take it. I do understand the possible outcome if someone owned 1000 acres and had no heirs then died leaving the land to nobody would have to be dealt with in some way, however.

Thanks for that. I've been working my way through Revolt Against the Modern World as the first I've read of him, and it's been hard going. Feels like I'm trying to learn algebra without understanding basic arithmetic. I like what I've managed to grasp though, guess I'll take a step back and read Heathen Imperialism first.

Do you know a good source for his work? I checked that link you posted, cakravartin.com. Can it all be found there? I've had trouble finding this stuff for a while.

Is this possible?

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It's bad, because newfags should lurk. If you can tell they're new, they should be shamed. If they're allowed to post freely masquaraded as "one of us", the board culture will degenerate.

tldr

"im a poor failure and am blaming capitalism and not my own laziness and stupidity."

My ancestors have done that. They seem to get married to a 18 or 20 year old girl, then proceed to have one child every two or three years until that stops working.

t. mayflower snob

besides, that's what all the welfare people are doing, it's why that shit costs so much

That is true.


It's because you are doing something exactly like that. Just going to another of his books won't help. Here's a list some user posted at some point. I'm still working through it myself. OP doesn't need to because that was already his training.

The only people who could be into that are claustrophiles and soulless tools whose only interest in life is small talk.


Agreed. The only way things could be different is if we could somehow create infinite resources and infinite land. The first world is far beyond the point of ever getting along 100% peacefully with the rest of the world and vice versa, since we've yet to establish a mutual relationship which optimizes resource efficiency, consumption, and technological development. A redpilled African-American who goes on a killing spree of his own racial brethren feels more realistic than creating more redpilled African-Americans.

The only thing you can really do is find a way to desensitize yourself, or celebrate the chaos of shorter term happenings. Or go full hateboner like that one Canadian user who isn't fond of Asians existing on the planet, especially Canada.

People who obsess over the environment or animals as well. They would be better served by trying to fight against immigration because of carrying capacity of the land, but that doesn't matter somehow.

The problem is that there is no consideration of the future, they just have infinite numbers of kids. Because they have no concept of the future.
It used to be that only some would make it. Today if they come close to dying, people swoop in from the first world bearing all the resources that are needed. This creates an exponential crisis.

This explains things better than your image.

Hillary is a Jewish shill, if you don't know why, lurk moar.

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Corruption is the fault of the state, not capitalism.

Adam Smith described capitalism. He didn't invent it and didn't make policy statements, unlike the court economists of today.

Capitalism is as old as trade itself, it predates civilization.
A stone-axe is a capital good just like a chainsaw or a saw mill and whenever you have access to capital goods that allow you to produce enough consumer goods that you are able to trade those that you do not consume yourself, you are a capitalist.
That's why western countries are capitalist countries, because we're the only people on earth who were industrious enough to produce more than we consume on a regular basis, which turned all of us into capitalists to some degree or another.

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capitalism isn't good or bad, but a natural system that arises from success

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You need to lurk more, it has nothing to do with capitalism, America is not capitalist at the top. Everything Geo-politics related has to do with 2 things, population control and resource control (to control population). Once you understand that you will start to see the big picture.