MGTOW

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now idea why that saged

what the hell

ew

Keep telling yourself that, cuck. Major white knight detected.

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no u

the perfect man to you deals with this, and fucking trust it to be a mother to your children

As someone who recently just dodged a sperm jacking by a spic semen demon, I approve of the message.

not everyone lives in your retarded burgerland culture, burger

This shit doesn't only happen in burgerland, because women around the world are still women. It works the same way as that a wolf held captive is still a fucking wolf.

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idiot

the west is a monoculture, and 3DPD are like this where technology has made life easy. So either live a 3rd world shit hole, or deal with 3DPD in all their hypergamous final form.

Stunning argument. You totally blew me out. I guess I was wrong this entire time.

lol gay

I'll bet all of their IQs put together wouldn't add up to a triple digit one.

Bitches around the world are like this. Not to mention, every other culture copies America, retard.

No comeback so it's gay, right? Your faggot nation and culture is probably gayer than what you're criticizing, foreign piece of shit.

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I literally know nothing about pop culture in other cultures because nobody here is interested, yet they know as much about the pop culture here as me.

Aren't slavs the most enthusiastic nig-hop consumers among white people?

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it doesn't even matter about the culture much
3DPD are like this if their standard of living is higher then the 3rd world, and is beyond agriculture based based economy

I agree. I was getting off the track.

anti-anti-feminism is feminism

This

Both Tradcucks and MGTOW seek to bind women in chains, the difference is the reasoning. Tradcucks see the chains as a relationship of parent and child, where the man is held 100% responsible for the actions of the female and that the purpose of the relationship is to serve society. MGTOW see the chains as a means of subjugating the female nature that seeks to destroy the men in their lives as well as society as a whole, where the man is only responsible for keeping the chains on the female, with society giving him assistance in that regard. In MGTOW, the interests of the man come first and society is built up from there.

MGTOW is male feminism

Doesn't change what he said. You're simply calling this group it's enemy, and it's absurd.

MRA is male Feminism. MGTOW is Male nature.
Tradcuckery is just as gynocentric as Feminism.

MGTOW seek to remove women from their lives entirely, hence "going their own way." This is why waifubots are such a recurring theme in these threads.

Feminism openly preaches female superiority, and has convinced society to continue promoting female superiority while openly treating men as second class citizens. MRAs and MGTOWs simply point out this open, on the books discrimination.

When the government and every major institution stops openly discriminating against males, and MRAs are still fighting just to take rights away from women, then maybe you'll have an apt comparison with feminism. But I don't see that day happening any time soon.

No, it isn't. Male nature is to protect and provide for women, feminism is the extreme exacerbation of that instinct to enslave men to the end of female supremacy. MGTOW is how men survive that situation in the years preceding the inevitable collapse caused by feminism.

Correct, MGTOW explicitly avoids marriage because as an institution, marriage is a suicidally stupid decision in our modern world. However, this isn't the final destination of MGTOW philosophy. There's a choice: If female nature is the cause of a plethora of societal ills, either we contain female nature by removing their rights and bind them in chains to serve us, or we abolish the female sex altogether after finding a suitable alternative.

Is it male nature, though, or indoctrination by society?

Is it male nature, though, or indoctrination by society?

Correct, MGTOW explicitly avoids marriage because as an institution, marriage is a suicidally stupid decision in our modern world. However, this isn't the final destination of MGTOW philosophy. There's a choice: If female nature is the cause of a plethora of societal ills, either we contain female nature by removing their rights and bind them in chains to serve us, or we abolish the female sex altogether after finding a suitable alternative.

Women are to serve us. They aren't disposable (yet) so I agree with the defending them theory, but certainly not with your proposition to serve them and let ourselves be pussywhipped. Stop putting the vagina on a pedestal, White Knight.

While there may be an element of nature to it, I think it's not a good idea to overlook the social aspect. Women act how they act because they are encouraged to act that way since birth. If a social change were to happen that actually encourages them to be more than selfish, sociopathic parasites, then I think there's a decent chance that future generations of women may actually have a higher percentage that try to act like actual good people, instead of soulless vampires.

For example, waifubots are probably what you were talking about when you mentioned "finding a suitable alternative." But the consequences of waifubots may be even more beneficial to humanity than many people realize, because they may encourage women to finally become good people. The more men are occupied by waifubots, the fewer men will be validating the parasitic actions of women. This will lessen their encouragement to be parasites. But beyond that, it will lessen the competition for them, and therefore they will have more incentive to treat men better, instead of treating them like hated beasts of burden. If waifubots were popular enough, a situation may even arise where women actually try to treat men like equals, like actual human beings. Now I know a bunch of tradcucks and others will complain about my touting of "equality," but you must understand that you're on the losing side of that equation now anyway. You are not seen as a superior, you are not even seen as an individual. You are seen as a hated servant class. If you begin to be treated as an individual, then your individual talents and skills, which you can then prove are superior, will be treated as such. Waifubots can help that happen.

The other thing that would help is artificial wombs, since then men can actually have children that aren't under constant threat of being taken away, along with everything else in his life, when a woman decides she's bored of him. But to think of the long term consequences of this, a man raising a girl can actually raise her to think of men as actual people, which is not how girls are raised in modern society. It will take a generation or two, but this will help create women that lessen the need for artificial wombs in the first place.

With enough use, waifubots and artificial wombs may well contribute to their own obsolescence. Not totally, of course. There will always be a wish for these things for plenty of reasons, but if they can encourage women to actually treat men like actual people, then that will remove a major incentive to use the devices, and leave recreation and biological hindrances to be the major incentive, instead of trying to escape a tyrannical system.

I don't see it working this way.
They would do more than contribute by representing the absolute obsolescence of women. Also, assuming that they could serve as an incentive for women to become more useful to men–thus making such technology no longer necessary–is assuming that women are rational in the first place. Either they will remain forever necessary to men or they will become obsolete. There is no middle ground.

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I take a more optimistic hypothesis than you, but ultimately our disagreement is immaterial, because we agree that we must execute this experiment, of popularizing waifubots and artificial wombs, either way. Then we'll see who is right. Either way, everyone will be better off.

Definitely. And I suppose through this experiment we would find out who is correct. I personally do not think this will inspire women to be more productive to men, but I would find out in the end result.

See I'd be okay with women just being productive to themselves instead of being leeches. All I want is a woman that doesn't treat me as less worthy of love and care than herself. I think it's possible, though it has historically been incredibly rare. Therefore, I turn to robowaifus.

That kind of amounts to the same. In this society, they are constantly requiring some sort of help from men, even though they have most of the capabilities that men have, including a few advantages. But I do not see them ever capable of being productive to themselves as well. They are far too needy. There must be some evolutionary reason behind their inability to exist without men, but I'm uncertain as to what that may be

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are you blind?
it isn't some cicada 3301 encrypted coded language if that's what you're thinking - it's just some random user who spams the board pretty frequently

See you're the type of woman that makes robowaifus necessary. All we ask is that you treat us with humanity, and you refuse. Your refusal to feel empathy is making yourself obsolete.

I try not to make assumptions and say people are incapable of things unless I can prove how. All that does is essentially let them off the hook, free them from responsibility. And they should very much be held responsible for their actions.

Cumdumpster in fear that her servants are waking up.

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People stop being lazy as soon as they are no longer given the things they want for free. Sometimes they can't get the things they want even with hard work, but hard work is foreign to women, so that's not the issue.

It doesn't, because I made it clear that they have most of the capabilities of men and a few advantages. They are far from off the hook. I suppose psychologizing women is pointless and maybe even harmful to men at this point. I was basically saying that they're just lazier than men.

Sorry, I deleted because I worded something wrong.
True. Maybe it's as simple as that.

that's not true, though. people who have the characteristic of deficient motivation/lethargic-tier self-drive, will still do the bare minimum they can to get by. they just modify their laziness.
some other ppl won't really do anything depending how far gone/powerless they are to their behavioral traits
this isn't something exclusive to women, though. but if you want to complain about a culture that enables women to get all the gibsmedats while men do the hard work - you need to also hold men accountable for allowing this sort of culture to continue to be harbored/nurtured, enabling it to keep surviving
it's not something you can just blame on the biological difference between you and a woman. stop hating all females tbh

Our society over does this. It has gotten to the point where men are literally blamed for things acknowledged to be problems of women.

That's fine. At least they're doing it themselves instead of being leeches. If they're happy living with the bare minimum, okay. But women get everything from money to love for free, taken from men who actually have to work for those things, and get nothing in return for this transaction except maybe, sometimes, sex. And of course women get sex too, without needing to work for it. But oh, I forgot, the fact that women get paid for having sex, and men have to pay for sex, makes men oppressors and women victims. That makes sense.

I do. Whiteknights are the worst, and they come from all walks of life. Gynocentrism is the one thing the left and the right agree upon. But once waifubots come along, it will slowly eat away at the general population, including whiteknights, and gradually solve this problem.

I have not been blaming biology. I am blaming society. I also never said I hated all females. I said society encourages them to be unempathetic parasites, and that we should encourage them to actually have empathy and not be parasites. Waifubots and artificial wombs would be two strong incentives.

i understand the sentiment behind your point and agree with it to a certain degree - what i think you're not taking into account here is how men willingly go along with this narrative because they know no better, effectively advocating for social change that works against their self-interest. they are cucked, and they need to be made aware of why they shouldn't just sit back and allow this to happen

prostitution is the oldest recorded profession in human history right alongside espionage. i agree with you that the demonizing of men by idiot college liberals is baseless and unjustified - but these people are slowly losing their legitimacy in the eye of the public if you ask me. i am all for legalization of prostitution but at the same token more strict conditions/due process before ""rape" accusations are taken seriously.

fair enough, and i agree. i don't think waifubots will play as significant a role as you think, as the spirit/animation of a female is not something that can be replicated in any meaningful way with AI YET, in my view. it may act as an incentive if dudes legitimately do lose a drive of going out and pursuing females - leading them to not be in such a position of retarded pampering by the oversaturated market of interested men.

idk i agree with you all in a lot of ways i think we just have different life experience which may shape our attitudes to be different in scope.

My argument regarding prostitution is that all romantic/sexual relationships are essentially arranged to be prostitution. Even historically. The woman gets free room and board and spending money if it could be afforded, and all she has to do is have sex and spend time with her family. But of course then they turn around and act as if having sex is bad, and if spending time with their family is bad. Sex is good for both people involved, but they managed to somehow convince the world that men should pay for it and women should get paid for it, if not directly in cash, then in other goods and services. Then they complain about spending time with their families, while their husbands died in war or mines or dangerous factories, kept going only by the imagined memory of kids they never actually got to spend time with.

Is it really something you want to recreate? A lazy and selfish NEET that demands you be thankful for serving it? Women largely just sit there anyway, even during sex. Giving it just the slightest subtle animation would be a step up. And spirit? Women don't have those anyway. At least they do their best to not act like it. We can do better.

Every little bit helps. And once the ball gets rolling, it will just keep gaining speed.

Hey mgtow poster, are you even aware of how fucking insane you are ?

You're on Holla Forums posting seriously.

Why not go back to your room and have a cry about the nasty girls, you'll feel better after that.

There are at least a few people talking about MGTOW, which you can see just by reading the conversation.

But oh, I forgot, women are encouraged to never actually confront any logical points made against them. Just talk about feelings and make ad hominem attacks. That will mean that their points are wrong!

Day of the robowaifu soon.

a funny thing if you're a MGTOW

t. jew

Hitler was a feminist

how much salt would generate if was the oposite?

Finally! The thread I've been waiting for.

we go through this shit every thread

anti-feminism isnt a male form of feminism

in the same way that: -

water isnt a liquid form of fire

medicine isnt a healing form of disease

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ummm…. wanting a sexbot makes me pathetic? right…
and femdom in 3DPD doesn't really work because 3DPD are weaker and more stupid then men

"Never marry or reproduce"
"Die all alone with a large collection of plushies"
― CIA Nigger

"So many CIA niggers, how can we kill them all in one lifetime?"
― Terry A. Davis

This

I hate Rene so bad.

Are you implying that the average modern woman is also a.. human being user? Lel. But otherwise decent, insightful post.

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Ofc, God has orchestrated circumstances in the universe to, in general, curtail the spread of evil including femshitism. If some deluded female becomes a stronk, indepyndynt thot, she wastes her only productive years as a useful happy female. Then she quickly transforms into a desparate, 30+ year old cow with little hope for a good outcome to her life, then she becomes a bitter, infertile old catlady who has no loving family to show for her life. Classic pottery tbh.

If on the other hand she marries a good man in her early teens, going straight from her father's care and protection into her husband's and they go one to produce lots of kids together, not only are they both very likely to have strong bonds together but they will both have a lasting legacy to their lives.

Either way, women get what they choose. One leads to death, other leads to life.

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