Brit/pol/ #1213: Who needs an "ology" Edition

american

sounds civic to me

she does have a pronounced jawline and chin

First for best MDE episode yet

AHHHH WTF

The thread only just updated and I'm not first

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It was very abstract but I liked it a lot

Don't find her that attractive tbh

What does civic mean in the context of britpol. I read it everytime I come here.

*no bully pls*

link?

Yeah it was great

Really surreal

youtube.com/watch?v=x8WA_q2Pau0

youtube.com/watch?v=x8WA_q2Pau0

I love Charles

it's pretty fluid. Sometimes it means non-whites, other times it means non-british or non-english.

Forgot to mention, sub to that channel, he uploads all the other episodes

He's great

How do I get past the "too deep for me" shit, lads?

*Charls

do you dislike it or just not understand it? There are threads on Holla Forums going crazy over the hidden meanings if you want to read those.

What do you mean? do you mean you dont get? or dont like it?

It means civic nationalism, the idea that national identity can be preserved regardless of race. It's basically used as an excuse by nationalists who have fetishes for non-white women.

Pic related is civic.

she's a bit hit and miss, she gets thicc and then slims down again

I think it's Charles, lad… why would it be Charls?

I like things having a point and I don't really understand it tbh.

I don't get it which takes away from me liking it tbh.

It means that if you act British you're British, regardless of race.

This was posted in the MDE halfchanthread might help you get it

World Peace is the theme, so taking a guess:

1st - Cost of peace. The husband relents on the brother tripping his wife, in order to maintain peace. The cost is the damage to his wife. They all behave calm and don't move in spite of what happened. Allegory to modern war politics, say syria, where countries sit on the sidelines, or turkey where obama admin was: we support the democratically elected gov. Additionally, show the blind eye people take, aussie are trash, but you're OK black gf. Showing that people are OK with bigotry in certain forms, and that blind eye keeps peace.

2nd - Hypocrisy of peace. Idiot who doesn't know what he's doing makes a mess of the gym. All the others (countries) are silent. Yells at others for being loud, even though the loudest. 'murican/American military allegory for are foreign exploits.

3nd - Road to peace. Kill the instigators/adjitators. FB shapes media traffic, ex giving libs bad repub news and good lib news, and vice-versa, instilling extremism and unrest between groups. Essentially a call to arms.

4th - Fate of peace. Guy who just accepted his fate like a sheep came home to find it ruined. Allegory for nations' cultures - ex, euro migrant crisis. Or just any place that's your "home", thus the house symbol. The shanking being played off as simply accepting the anger against you, ex minority/black violence in eu/us. The flip out realizing what's just taking all the hits and never hitting back has resulted in losing what you cared for.

Sorry for poor grammar/spelling, I'm too lazy to cleanly type it out.

It's Charls
It gives him a unique name with the film actors guild

tbh id probably CIVIC up with a euro if she was qt and liked me

id probably end up killing myself though, so all is good

I read that and I like it, but it would only make sense if everything in previous episodes also tied into the title.

that's fucking disgusting you mixing piece of shit.

Was having to do tasks today lads, what did i miss with the nige show?

Reminder that not all whites deserve our protection. Some of them are as degenerate as the Pakis and the niggers.

I've never understood their problem, it's perfectly okay to find non-white women of certain races attractive. It's not okay to want to breed with one or have them live in your country.

They all have different themes though. Other anons posted other theories as to what each episode symbolised

All of the episodes dont have to have the same message laddo

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I can understand that. I think surrealism is either something you enjoy or you don't tbh.

Some of these explanations are a little out there so I'm cautious about believing it but I like it. The theories about what WORLD PEACE refers to and ties them together are my favourites.

But they'd have to tie in with the title. It'd be weird if only this episode did that, and would make interpreting whatever meaning there is even harder.

this tbh

Well I can enjoy it in the way that I like the characters and the somewhat eerie look.

what channel is the proms on lads?

To be fair to the yanks america is already a majority non-white country

He's like a modern German woman, they get weak at the knees for anglo cock these days.

Careful joking about that user, the way things are going Britain will end up that way.

THE KRAUT CRAVES THE BIG BLACK BRIT DICK

HAHAHA!!!

Sorry Jerry, it's true

Germanic tribes literally cucked the Celtic savages who populated Britain.

what if women found non-white men of certain races attractive, though?

I think it's fine to fap to non-white porn but don't get in relationships with them. Same as it's fine to watch a violent action film, but don't go Elliot Rogers.

nah as much as memesters from yankistan like to joke we're at 87% whites and London is half-ethnic brit which doesn't include European whites (which yanks fucking shill for all the time the fat fucks)

We'll be fine the US is a lost cause even if trump wins it's already collapsing

It's not really a joke. Ya'll gotta do a lot more than build a wall to solve the problem.

Socially, not genetically.

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I enjoy indulging them, hopefully when its done Sam could explain them all, but I doubt he'll do that

Yeah I guess so, I only hope that we'll get an explanation from Sam himself, would make understanding these episodes all the more easier but like I said to the other user I doubt that will even happen

If I was being fair I would allow them the same standards, however women don't posses the same mental or emotional capabilities of a man. I am worried they could not control themselves when it comes to breeding.

It's probably a lot worse than that, you can never trust (((official))) statistics.

it would be better to just fuck non-whites. Pornography conditions the mind a lot harder than sex. You'll find yourself preferring civics to English roses after awhile. Like that chink poster

I do too. Hidden meanings and subtlety are interesting to me and I like reading about it.
And I have to agree, it's more sam's style to let people go on not knowing and thinking up theories.

You don't understand genetics and why a high IQ black will degenerate into an average black. Short term it works, long term it does not.

Fucking forms bonds in the way porn does not. I can fap to anything I want and walk away clean afterwards. I can't invest in a woman and walk away clean

who else /enjoyssomehomebrew/?

I wish they were longer, tbh

If the children didn't get the rights to live here, I could support a whitening of certain other cultures. Might even give those countries a chance to make something of themselves.

Then don't fuck women unless you intend to marry them. But don't at the same time assume your porn habit is healthy.
When you masturbate to porn and do it regularly you change the way your brain interprets pleasure.
Porn can turn straight men gay and innocent young boys into /d/eviant's.

I really wanna buy the book

But he said he probably isnt gonna ship internationally

How much do you think is cut?

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Probably half of each episode.

I don't agree, while feckless promiscuity is a bad thing, trying out at least more than one woman before you commit is to key to a healthy marriage which provides the best chances in life for your children. I don't buy the first car I test drive, and women cannot be trusted until you get to know them better. They are practised deceivers. Just use protection until you find the right woman you feel would make a good mother to your children. Also if white men aren't "playing the field" then you can rest assured other races are and that's putting the white man out of the market.

Sounds a little on the immoral side tbh. But my main problem with that is that white men would have mixed children. You can't just turn off your paternal instincts. I fear a lot of men would start trying to get their brats citizenship if other races started to become enriched. I believe that's what happened to the Spanish.

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How you get that picture lad?

Well yes it would not work now in reality, but in a perfect world there should be more people with white genes than non white genes.

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While I don't mind what you're saying in theory, what happens in a system where everyone "tries their first woman out" is that it often leads to promiscuity on the side of both genders.
I tend to believe the cultural arbiters need to push the idea I put forward. That way people always know that when they have sex they are being immoral. I would hope that would deincentivise promiscuity

He's more mindfucked than his son believe it or not.

why?

Indeed. It's a damn shame we don't live in that world but that's just how it is I guess

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read his book

Why is he such a little cunt

Cant stand him

It's two pages long?

God he's a spastic isn't he?

Australian settlers managed to breed out most of their mixing with the natives after a few generations of re-coupling with whites, just like in America where mixed children either bred back into the black or white population.

You wouldn't able to tell that a lot of them weren't 100% white if nobody told you tbh.

His dads a dirty lefty cuck too, his son is the natural progression when one of them breeds.

I think if someone is raised correctly they can learn to have a few relationships especially when young before they chose someone to marry. It's those raised by bad parents that end up promiscuous. I would not want my own son to end up saddled with the first woman he sleeps with. During teenage years your well frankly not in control of your own urges or hormones enough to be trusted to make a lifelong commitment. Also as I said, women are fucking liars and deceivers. Some whore would steal his heart to get at his wallet and I could not countenance that. If you raise them right they won't end up promiscuous, those raised wrong reap their own "rewards".

As one user said, it reads like a confession.

While we're on Gordo, here's his latest video in case no one has posted it yet.

The real cover is worse

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How can one man be so bad?

The quietest intro known to man.

Everybody who is a STAUNCH remoaner, 99% of university students and just liberals in general.

He's a man on the edge.
Good thing for the archive.

I have a problem with any non-white genetics being a population tbh. Also aboriginals are the least enticing of all non-whites.
I don't know I just feel like it's playing with fire.

I do believe that teenagers will be having some amount of sex and that's not the end of the world, or necessarily a bad thing. But the key word here is "raised correctly" isn't it? What happens in a system where most children aren't raised correctly? Not by much, just a few parenting mistakes. You need them to understand that promiscuity is all out bad, because the ones that weren't raised right will push the limits and end up corrupting the local girls, or ruining their own lives by becoming to focused on sex.

How many days has he been wearing that shirt now?

Retardation really does run in the family

Australians truly are Lemurian

Apparently those Irish-Australian fathers disagreed lad.

I don't get it

It's not easy resisting the temptation

tbf though, from that poal in the last thread, people would prefer an abo to SA.

I want to believe that many of the sort of fit ones were taken and BLEACHED and only the ugly ones remained. But the more likely scenario is that the Micks had drop too much whiskey and would shag anything.

If SA looked like the cute girls he keeps posting we'd all be lining up to have a turn tbh.

This whole episode is gold.

Even pic related is better looking than an Abbo… How do Abbos even breed with Abbos?

which would you rather lad

The one on the right and I don't even care if it's actually a man because I feel so unutterably repulsed by the thing on the left.

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one on the right is pretty cute tbh

Is he upset people call him what he is?

what happened to across the grand space time and the multiverse etc

Beautiful tbh

Yes. He honestly thought he had fans so he started talking to them and then discovered they were actually fun of him the whole time.

He admits to masturbating his fucking hamster. How can he get offended by being called what he is?

Too much hand-drawn penis tbh.

bullying starting to get to him

What time is last night of the prom on lads?

He realised it sounded fucking ridiculous.

You tell me.

Who /gettingreadyfortheracewar/ here?

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BBC has it's proms coverage starting at ten to nine lad.

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good way to fuck your knees up

I just realised I sound like him if he wasn't autistic. Fuck my life.

What?

I always feel a trickle of fear whenever he starts muttering incoherently like that.

The only person he's a danger to is himself, and even then, he would never do it.

Only 90's kids will remember this

I know there's quite a lot of lads over 30 here who might remember that.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Heading to the Lidl . See you in an hour!

FUCK YOU, BILLY. FUCK. YOU.

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bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37315684

Wtf I hate white people now.

Seriously, when do you ever read of something like this in the news with the races the other way around?

Homebrew is love

These arseholes in the gym smh tbqh(pbuh)

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One
Drop
Rule

Mixed mutts didn't get absorbed into the White population. That's why American blacks have something like 20% White ancestry on average. Because the black population absorbed all the mulattoes.

this made me dislike

Didnt he die or something

I know lad, I was memeing

Apparently whoever made that OP doesn't understand English. Do you pakis even read it or is that asking too much for 2-digit IQ plebs?

WEW LAD

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What a twisted, racist society.

I think we have an angry Canadian in our midsts

Do you think, if people keep treating him this way, he'll stop making videos?

I do. :^)

I think he is trying to get a huffpost article out of it but he'll at best get to Salon

That little boy. Gordon likes.

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Based.

What the fuck is he doing? Also his face whenever he has fun is so fucking creepy.

It's the noises for me, dear god…

Dont think so:
dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1184341/How-Milkybar-kid-drunk--showjumper-musician-gardener-We-stars-rode-sunset.html

We doing classic ads.

It was for the best, I suppose

those jerky crossfit motions are shit for your joints tbh, its mostly flashy trend shit. lifting should be controlled, slow and steady like a glacier forging a mountian peak. all the fast pumping comes in the after work cool down with the freaks lad

The show and intro always creeped me out tbh. Having death and all that sort of stuff. I think I was pretty young though tbh.

Why was it so much better back then lads?

Wendigo pls go.

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it's why millennial generation are so into multicultural left wing environmentalism

This was genuinely the most terrifying part of the video.

Is he bipolar? I thought he had accepted his fate as a lolcow.

I loved that show

CIVIC

He was trying to outsmart us so we'd get bored of him, but he's not a good actor.

I don't know, man. I don't think children are able to pick that up while watching it, and subliminal messages doesn't really work. If anything I can agree with not turning every greenery into concrete. That sort of environmentalism I am for.

That's fucking hilarious. It was called immediately as well.

I just want to eat arses of fitgirls tbh

He's not all bad.

ass eating is degenerate lad don't corrupt women's sensibilities, especially the rare ones that take care of their bodies. the vagina is the proper outlet

but I don't want throat cancer

Any form of sex that isn't under the covers, lights out, missionary, with a sheet(with a hole in it) in between the two of you, is degenerate.

must be the autism

Does he enjoy it, lads?
Is he like ttpw?
Is he ttpw?

just use your meat stick lad

My waifu

I know lad.
Abuses are for gays tbh.
I eat pussy for hours its my favourite thing

*anuses

Enjoy your throat cancer.

Take your (1) put it in a suitcase and go away with it

Top kek

Why are women so awful lads?

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I've posted in this thread before, I just switched IPs for some reason.

Lol Fucking Brit/pol/ threads you cunts make my day

The people who advocate eating pussy are similar to the people advocating getting a job. They only do it because they have done it and now feel like shit. They want to spread their filth and pain.

Gets me everytime

Gordon lives in his dads house and says he's parted ways with his dad.

Get a fucking job, you waste of space.

Lad its the best

I don't recommend you do it because if you don't get the woman off its a waste of time tbh.

Why would you even want to eat pussy, it tastes pretty bad. but you should get a job you fucking neet

What type of pussy have you been eating?

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I'll probably cum in under a minute and then my job is done. I don't really like sex tbh.

Sure. Some day. I am sure 6 years of not doing anything only makes it easier to get one.

Eating pussy is more cucked than sucking nigger cock. Sorry, lads

I-I'm beginning to think some of the lads on Brit/pol/ aren't very sexually experienced

But it's hard.

Jesus fucking christ lad.

maybe it was just my gf having a bad vagina, only ever been with her

I'll never ever put my face anywhere close to a cunt, lad. Sorry. You can't bully me into it.

Enjoy your HPV and nigger DNA

Filtered tbh, you've wasted nearly a decade of your life, why should anyone take you seriously

You can tell he has autism training because he tries to look at the person when finishing his sentence. It's not how normal people converse.

And now I feel bad for Gordon again.

FUCK HIM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I was enabled by my parents, lad

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FILTERED FOR SURE LAD

I'm married and my wife was a virgin when I met her.

Not even kidding

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FEEL SORRY FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PLEASE DON'T FILTER MEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Oh, ok. Never mind.

Its not for everyone

MUMMY SAAAAAVE MEEEEEEE

I am lad.

Bought a gum shield today, but it makes me look goofy af.

Need it for some training I'm planning to do though.

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It's not really an issue for you tbqh lad

Was meant for

Thanks for the double (you)s, lad. Good lad. What are you training?

Why?

Hey he lost a stone

I do a workout every other day, body weight exercises, shadow boxing and then hitting a heavy bag.

Had haggis and potato farls for dinner, thoroughly enjoyed the celtic flavours.

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THEY'RE CALLED TATTIE SCONES YOU FUCK

they were from ireland though

Jealous

Dooesn't fucking matter lad and who the fuck has tattie scones with Haggis, you have mashed potatoes and turnips.

cba making mashed potato

I hated those classes at first when I was a kid but I'm thankful I was forced to go now. If I try hard I can pass for a quiet normie for a few weeks with new people before I accidentally slip and bee myself and they think I've had a stroke or something and all ask what's wrong and I just say "a-autism." Wait, what, really? "Yeah". Then I end up having to move on to another group. Even got a girlfriend for a while once. Put my penis inside her and everything. Thank you eye contact and speech coach guy I forget the name of.

lad its the only way you can eat it.

wew lad.

going to have the rest in a sandwich tomorrow

What super power did you get, lad?

How bad were you?

Would you shag ttpw if it meant every non-white (including poles) being deported from the UK?

You'd have to take one for the team if that was the outcome.

I'd probably kill myself after though.

Hypothetical question, so fuck off.

Lads, I was to propose a question to you.

It's 2056, all the whites are dead except your sister and you. She's in her 20s, you're in your 30s, you've protected her from Pajet, Muhhamad and Tyrone. You finally have a secure place to live with decades of food stored for at least 10 people.

In this situation is it ethical to (consensually) fuck your sister or is incest still wrong?

Based Benny Shapiro ROASTS the media's biased treatment in favour of Hillary

Lads, I want to ask a question.

It's 2050 and all the whites are dead but you and your sister
You have protected her from Pajet, Muhammad and Tyrone. She's always looked up to you as her protector and her big brother
You find a secure bunker with food for several hundred years inside and it's nearly impossible for any one else to find and even harder to break into
Is it ethical to fuck your sister in this situation?

It's not my fault mummy was a stupid whore and got pregnant by an already old man with ruined sperm when she was in her 20s and then got abandoned by him and started drinking tbh.

None really. It's just debilitating. Wish sometimes I did have a calculator in my head or something useful from it.

Couldn't look at people properly or speak for long without getting really nervous. Couldn't walk normally, kind of bounced with my arms kept still. When I got bullied I'd kind of go comatose and be silent and still for hours and nobody could move me. Even if some kid punched me in the face I'd be still. Creeped everyone out. Sometimes I would snap out of it and beat the other kid up but take it too far and get in trouble for doing something cruel like holding them down and breaking their fingers. Also did what Gordon said he did in that video recently and I kept dead things for a particular phase of weirdness I had. I liked just photographing them (rats, birds, etc.) at first but when I found a dead kitten I kept that as a pet in a sand castle bucket before mummy found it and got mad.

Is it ok to commit a sin to get something you want.
Duh no?

Procreation as a last ditch attempt to continue humanity may well override this sin.

Lad, Zinc tbh

medicalxpress.com/news/2016-08-zinc-reverse-brain-cell-autism.html

nothing wrong with incest

At that point the only way the "white race" would continue is through more and more inbreeding. Your great grandkids would look like the bad guy's family from Feminist Road. There's no point, in such an apocalypse you both (read: both) might want to embrace degeneracy and defeat, it's up to your own values lad, but don't delude yourself.

Sounds like a tough break lad, at least you aren't as autistic as Gordo.

Why won't he kill himself lads?

The rope keeps snapping.

Iktf. I'm a fuck up too but in different ways.

I wonder if this apparent interest autistics have in dead animals is something Steinbeck noticed when researching for Of Mice and Men

Should switch to wrist slitting

No blade long enough to get through the fat.

Why 2056, lad? I have a Gondola with that year in it, but I can't post it

Because I don't want to. Only reason I'd kill myself would probably be if I was in too much physical pain, or if I got crippled.

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Anglos are immune to incest. This is known.

Fuck him

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I love you lad how loud were people screaming when you broke their fingers in class?

Can't wait till a future regime sets up a breeding program to eliminate the autistics

Can't wait until a regime just genocides the non-functioning autists.

Just spent an hour making a folder for all our BREXIT posters and related OC. Almost got my 3 year old fuck fest organised.

Now we know just how depraved Jahans is, are we, like TRS, going to stop memeing him?

Morality Man heads to Boston post Brexit

youtube.com/watch?v=Hv5gYovQiZA

Autism didn't exist in any significant way since women entered the workplace and the nuclear family was disrupted

What?

Can't wait until a regime just genocides the neurotypical normies

Probably. Got a bit bored after he kind of got chummy with us, and now he's just back to his same old.

Could you share please?

* before

Sorry lad I thought you were the one talking about that

Do these start really quiet and get louder for any one else.

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BOSTON PETER

You'd die out within a generation as there aren't enough autistic women in the general population in comparison to autistic men.

Latest track.

"You Will Find The Truth" featuring Minette Fourie.

It's chill SynthWave.

soundcloud.com/user-625608547/you-will-find-the-truth-featuring-minette-fourie-free-download

Where are these threads, because I found it the worst episode tbh?

When only autists are left women will be forced to take on autistic traits to survive and be like their masters

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just leave me aloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooone

Yes he got the sound wrong on his intro.

Adding that to my collection, thank you. It's like somewhere inside he knows he's wrong.

fucking hell

Don't watch this video lads.

What happened in Gordo's discord chat lads?

Bit big lad, 8,000+ files at 7gb.

Reported.

Brit/pol/ is shit lately lads

It's because nothing's happened tbh m8

I mean the webms

took me years to get over the autist walk
took me years to get over the autist voice
took me years to get over the social anxiety
took me years to learn how to dress myself

now i can pass as a normal person

YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ah no, works fine for me I'm afraid.

STOP POSTING THESE FUCKING FEELS WEBMS

I DONT WANT TO FEEL ANYMORE LAD

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I don't think Enoch knew what VLS looked like, or else he would have laughed it off since there's nobody alive who would get offended by a mess like him.

are you me?

Shame that shit's own by facebook now.

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tbh you'll crack when you're put under a social spotlight in under 10 seconds.

Also, I never realised that he died.

Give them hell, lad.

Heard it on the radio when it happened, was a bit gutted really. At least he went in a pretty Scottish way.

song name?

What… what is that he's holding?

A small dagger

Sorry, I don't know, lad.

Obvious Blood Dragon.

Why do all you faggots like ecelebs
They are worse than trips

You actually become something more than normie once you've progressed from autist level. It's like you had to learn how to be a normal person not from instinct, but learning how people work and how they react to what you say, what buttons to press.

I already had to put myself in tonnes of social situations, parties, etc, while being a complete aspie. Sure I got made fun of in the learning process but it was only friendly banter, and it helped me realise when I was doing something aspie, like repeating a certain phrase over and over or doing a certain hand movement every time i spoke.

I've had to put myself in situations where I get social anxiety so much I stopped caring and now I'm just unphased by everything.

Oh. That's a relief. I thought it might be his mummy's dildo tbh.

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Why has MW been so sluggish lately? It's not like he's working for a living.

Sounds like the pathway to slip back to autist tbh.

What's the autist walk/voice?

He's a bit tubby now tbh
Must hurt the knees

Mixed emotions.

ty never played fc3

sluggish as in unproductive

I love Gondola

Me neither, I just listen to a lot of Synthwave.

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split into 1024MB packs and upload to mega

Thanks for the video.

He's busy banging his qt German gf.

This is probably due to the weight gain lad

She's a well known gilf lad

isn't she a 50yo milf?

Manlet Wobble is what MW means now tbh.

Apparently he's too fat to fuck and can't get a hardon.

kek

We just walk weird. Maybe it's because we're not self aware, maybe it's because we don't go outside and walk a lot so we don't know how, I dunno, but you just look weird and unnatural. People used to say I "bobbed my head" weird and then when I tried to look more normal people said i "swung my arms from side to side weird".

It feels kind of bad when from something as simple as walking people immediately know you're an aspie.

many forms but the one i had and encounter a lot is the "putting on a weird deep and strained voice because you're insecure and anxious" voice

and i would stutter and not know what to say and just blurt out noises trying to speak because did not have good social skills and didn't know what to say

kind of like gordons voice i guess, he doesn't know he's speaking like an aspie, that's just how autists naturally speak

He spent most of Pale Hominid's visit to Scotland alone in his room with his gf while PH sat downstairs. Kind of cunty tbh.

Farage is absolutely correct and it's something I've been saying for years. There is a ridiculous and over-educated snobbish obsession with every-fucking-one going to university, getting more people into debt and still having nothing to show for it at the end, whether they take a real course or a mickey mouse course. It's just a place for more smug, leftist and politically correct circle jerking amongst intellectualist professors and acting as priests to their leftist students.

pointbite.com/2008/03/24/are-universities-destroying-the-economy/

(unfortunately I can't access it at the moment, but I saved the webpage ages ago and have screencapped it)

There's a good article that puts a lot of my thoughts on the matter into perspective.

I suppose to a few intelligent people university can be a huge wake up call as well. Those places really are full to the brim with the worst kind of people in society; degenerates and smug cunts.

He took a tour round Europe and saw how fucked we are. He's becoming black pilled and readying for war rather than pissing his time away on Youtube which will make him homeless if he releases another hate speech video.

is this true?

Have we broken Gordon lads? He seems pretty mental in his most recent video. Think he's gone over the edge

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He's storing calories for the food shortage.

Face it lad, they never come across them anymore, there's no reason she should know.

he will be able to give his cummies to his gf tbh

He's a weak little bitch. Couldn't even release his Rotherham vids because muh feels.

Have another Gondola or two tbh lads.

Does Wews still live with his dad? Fucking hell, don't think I could endure living with my parents in my late 20s

He had a mental break down mate, can't live on his own in case he white knights another woman who runs him into the ground and leaves him out of touch with reality

He'll lose it all as the swathy hordes advance north and he's chased form his creature comforts.

Yeah, he doesn't look like the warrior I'd want stood next to me when the Kebab horde charges towards us.

He's become a fat fuck in a very short space of time tbh

His confidence in videos seems to have wavered too. It's like he's receding into a ball of frightened fat.

Maybe he really did see something in Germany that made him lose it.

/r/ing more sad gondolas

he's early 30s now I think

Didn't he?

mid 30s

He never finished it

It's a shame, vinyl and tape are better than mp3s & other digital formats.

While tape does decay, it's not prone to corruption like digital storage is. Even CDs crap out after a decade or two.

There's so much technology I hate that I could rant about, but this isn't the place.

I tend to alternate between liking new technology and being a luddite.

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on the brink of middle age and calls himself millennial

His entire group has stopped producing content. They were always artfags larping as fascists so maybe they woke up to reality.

He's 35-40 as I recall

He gave up on the series although he swears he will finish it some day. The videos he put out so far didn't even have anything to do with any of it. He sperged out on history for 6 hours and this was his idea of "attracting normies"

This happened? Where does he talk about this?

Fucking hell, it's worse than I thought

Have a lewd one instead lad.

SOME OF US HAVE TO LAD

Yeah, he's really lost his nerve lately.

Rumour has it that his gf is still a virgin, because he can't get it up.

Also with putting on weight, he's decided to weaken his position and side with the pathetic leftist Gordan Jahans, calling those that had a laugh at him "sociopaths" on facebook recently.

Putting on weight is supposed to lower testosterone, and I don't think Woes had a lot to begin with.

r/ing pics of Woes looking fat.

a lot of people are now using vinyl tbh

Fixed. He's a useless cunt and snake oil salesman just like so many others.

THREE HOUR VIDEOS AND PODCASTS; NO ONE CARES! WHO'S GOT TIME TO WATCH AND LISTEN TO ALL OF THESE AND DO SOMETHING?

UK electorate collectively decided to give up our housing stock to foreigners

True, but that's no excuse for being a lazy NEET who lives with your parents. Housing in most of the country outside London and the South East is still affordable

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It's really not, up north here it's extremely expensive. You need to understand wages are a lot lower here and all they do is build shit flats for more and more social housing.

I'm living proof of it. Granted I've had help and support from my parents, but I paid over half of the deposit for the house as I expected to.

London is a cesspit hardly worth the time aside from places like Essex. Let London burn and we'll pick up the pieces within 2 years MAX and neve rlet another shitskin live there again.

BIG DOG. LITTLE BABY

we will all make it

How can jobless NEETs afford anything?

>archive.is/Bq7qj

More of an analog man yourself i see, I mostly use digital to store and backup my things really, I'd listen to vinyl most of the time if it was more convenient or took up less space.

Only hipsters because no-one else does.

That was my point lad. It's possible to get your own place if you're not a NEET.

I live in London tbh lad

you can live in a shithole full of pakis and it will be cheap, but if you want somewhere reasonably British like York, Harrogate, Durham you will be having to spend a lot. Elsewhere it can be a struggle to find work.

Any good movie recommendations for tonight?

Hitler dubs speak truth!

Fatty Woe's a pretentious lazy cunt that pretends to be perpetually busy so nobody asks him what he's actually up to

His video quality has gone down of late too

As well as that, he allows that known police informer and hyper autist Cmrd Knightmarez in all his hangouts, and to piss all over the skype groups

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY ARE THEY SO FUCKING RETARDED AS IF THE SEXES WEREN'T ALREADY DIVIDED ENOUGH MUMMYYYYYYYYYY SAAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEE

I think it's "the abyss". He talks about how he was in love with a woman, cucked himself to her over and over saying he was fine with just being friends as she fucked any guy she wanted but him. Ended up so depressed he had a psychotic break and had to move back home because of it.

Fucking middle class twat.

Only reason i can even live in my hometown is because my Granddad left me his house when he died.

But I'm a NEET, lad

Tell me more lad

East and West Midlands is okay in a lot of areas and you can find affordable ex-council houses which are decent builds and the areas not too bad, preferably East Midlands where there aren't QUITE as many xenos.

Short of London being ethnically cleansed, nothing could ever make me want to even visit London ever again, just the travel and congestion. Everything is overpriced too. Such a shit hole.

i wonder who my grandparents will leave the house to when they die

im scared they'll just sell it

i just wants that house tbh lads

up north?

kek get fucked you jealous prick.

MP3s were OP, people hated them being so clear so they had to add noise to them so people would feel comfortable.

In the East Midlands mate. It's Paki and Pol central, DO NOT RECOMMEND unless you're coming here to build an enclave

Cmrd Knightmarez has been speaking to the Prevent program since early this year, talking to them about all kinds of shit

I bet he wanks too much

Why didn't his parents raise him properly?

Details lad details.

Yeah, to gay porn

Then he can't get it hard for his kraut waifu

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And Woes puts up with that? Fucking hell, disgraceful

How are the police so fucking cucked?

Fucking A

More North than you can imagine lad. My little town is slowly becoming a suburb for people who work in the city, so prices are going up.

I can see your worry really, its also worse because you can't persuade them without seeming like you really want their belongings/money.

Police need to be removed.

Muslims are fucked then

The "psychotic break" happened at daddy's house.

He's an odd duck for sure, and he doesn't even produce these days so there isn't really anything positive anymore. I feel bad for the silly cunts who give him d'nations to buy fags and pizza.

He is unironically liking each of Jahan's videos even whilst Jahans is chatting shit about him in the vids he's liking. He's a mess and having listened to him on the Daily Shoah he honestly seems like a humourless tosser.

Superfresh new Jahans.

Have you ever been in their skype group mate? It's toffee nosed twats larping

How do gondola put clothes on without arms

BASED ULSTER

make it stop.

Knightmarez got into a fight on facebook with some antifa. They threatened to kick him in

Stupid Autist Knightmarez went to the police, saying he had been threatened with violence

The police looked at the facebook convo, saw Knightmarez had been saying racist shit, and Knightmarez, instead of backing down, got into a full blown shouting match with the pigs, IN the station

They approached him later and asked if he'd like to get ona special program to educate people, and the idiot agreed

It turned out to be the Prevent anti-extremist program they put the twat on, and he's been talking to them ever since

Don't want their money tbh, I just don't want them to sell the house, it's not big at all, but it's nice enough and imo not worth selling considering how cheap they got it in the 60s
They're not that old really(they'll probably live to 90+ tbh), so it'll probably be 20-30 years before anything happens

Does anyone know what the episode was where TDS got their Gordo saying "nigger" drop from?

Nottingham's a shithole and parts of Derby like Normanton are dumps, it's not all bad though aside from the city centre, Normanton and Allenton. Mansfield is going downhill but there's a lot of angry people there too.

Nah it was the way you came off. I earn less than 20K a year, paid more than half of the deposit and did nothing but save money and get a good deal. I'm not going to apologise just because my parents aren't boomer cunts and wanted to give me a bit of help.

I would pay money to see that tape.

His parents are getting divorced.

I don't sorry but I will webm anything on request.

You don't really think it's going to apply to them do you?

How old is he? He seems 17ish

Never said you has to apologise, I'm saying don't say something is affordable if you need someone else to pay for half of it for you, that ain't affordable.

HIs parents got divorced already a while ago. His mum was diagnosed with 'bipolar disorder' read mental bitch and dropped Gordo's dad, now she has a part-time boyfriend. It's all on the /cow/ thread

Same here lad, they gave me a nice little 2 bedroom bungalow, when i have kids i can always make them share a room. I honestly don't care about the size of this place and same with my granddad, got it for dirt cheap in the 80's when he moved out of his old house.

:)

Their legs are very articulate

The guy is a fucking retard

You can hear him talking about his first meeting with Prevent in this video, if you can stand to sit through it

Ah yeah my bad, I got carried away and thought something new was coming out about it. My bad reacting live. Thank you.

time stamp please

How do people have time to make/watch all of these fucking streams? Is the time of autists really worth that little? Shame Wews has started doing them now too

Why are gondola videos the saddest things ever?

Its what the whole video is about, but aspy twat is talking in riddles the whole time

That was after his first meeting - turns out he met them continually after that as well!

That's fucked, lad.

If the boy was brown, do you think they'd have saved him?

>How do gondola put clothes on without arms
YOU NEED TO STFU TBH LAD

What a fucking bell end.

Cranks and weirdos.
WHAT NONSENSE

They're friendless losers who use google hang outs for their entire social life

im on day 4 nofap
dont do this

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I can only imagine what Joe would say if he knew about all these groups of autists that Adam Wallace and Woes have around them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald

Contrast this with the murde rof Saint Lawrence.

as opposed to using brit/pol/

Knightmarez is in his late twenties early thirties. H'e the perpetual child type. The state gives him money so he never has to grow up, so he spends all his time playing games

Kill again

The music? They just seem so lonely and at times at peace.

the images too, they really capture this modern life tbh

disgusting

Had to chuckle when I heard about his old antics of sending razorblades to jews in the post.

Afraid its different now up here lad, this was back in 2004 when we were behind you in PC cancer, now we're at the same levels.

Since this is anonymous, most of us (other than the most diehard of aspies) accept that this is not an acceptable substitute for actual conversation. Hangouts, as they are talking to a person (although online) lull people into this false sense of having friends, when we all know that internet friends is a not-thing.

Young Joe seems like a right lad

No bully lad, cheekiness should be outlawed tbqh

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34527215

(((Robert Spencer))).

ive met up with adam wallace tbh

Pretty much this sums it up correctly, yeah

don't worry tbh

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>>>/fit/

I think the FAT SUMMABITCH should consider thinspo first
pastebin.com/raw/93cLG9jj

Get out of my general fatty.

Cheers for the in depth response, lad.
I guess I've just had this feeling for a while that some psychologist would consider me mildly autistic, and I was wondering if I exhibited any of the traits associated with it.

I can't really imagine a voice being deep and strained: when I think of a strained voice, I imagine it being high pitched and a bit adolescent (like the spotty teen from the simpsons).

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What do you think about importing Polish girls to asmr you irl lads

Im for it tbh

Of course they would, making shit up is what keeps them in a profession.

Autism is largely made up bullshit.

Fuck off with your asmr obsession you sad cunt

How to ruin my night: The picture

THIS
All he does is preach to the choir. He has no network of real life people to talk LOCAL politics with. Same with all these podcasts, really.

I don have an obsession?

Why are you so hostile

Bit of a wanker arent you

Filtered

You constantly post these vidoes

So we hate MW now lads?

The thing is, I literally don't, this is the first time I've ever posted about asmr here

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is daddy farage coming back?

When will then realise
all crimes are hate crimes as they dehumanise the victims

youtube.com/watch?v=sGrkCjn4uTo

youtube.com/watch?v=sGrkCjn4uTo

Filtered you sick pervert.

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Well apologies I thought you were the guy who posts this stuff every thread, didn't know that many people listened to that stuff

Never liked the cunt tbh.

i wish

Lad, he's an eceleb

Did you remember to buy your fluoride filters today lads?

You're the one who thought of daddy as a sexual term lad, the other lad could be thinking of him as a father figure. You sick fuck.

If we don't get the Brexit that we want by 2018 I think he said he's coming back and doing it himself

Same, I cant stand him.

Same goes for for that fat hamster molesting freak

Dont know how people can watch him for more than 5 seconds

Why is fluoride meant to be bad? Stops your teeth from rotting

can't believe alex jones gets away with selling so much shit

it fucks with your brain you dumb cunt

youre not supposed to swallow toothpaste

turns frogs gay

uncucked british movies

please recommend me something to watch for tonight

dracula

store.infowars.com/Infowars-Life-Select-1-Year_p_1698.html

It's like you dont even prepare bro

Digest too much fluoride and you gradually turn into a globalist tbh

That's actually bullshit, it damages your teeth, no shit.

This is sort of what I was getting at when I said it.
We do seem to live in such insane times that people can be pathologised for not enjoying small talk.

but nige is pretty hot tbh

The man who would be king.

It also crystallizes your pinial gland and turns you dull

God damn read up on it lad

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Heart String Marionette (2012)

Lad that's the meme. Every time someone calls him that someone else replies that they interpret it in a sexual way and have filtered them. I didn't really filter him.

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These are your teeth on fluoride

Lol this question is clearly the normie litmus test

What a sicko.

Once you take the Joe Pill, you can't go back.

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Flouride gets built up in your "third eye" / Pineal gland.

Silver Amalgam fillings have up to 50% mercury.
They leak mercury gas into your lungs and cause brain damage.

youtube has removed most of the good videos about this.

Check out: "You put what in my mouth?"

thanks

how do I stop getting bad teeth lad? brushing them makes them hurt, but not brushing them makes them seem like they get infected with some shit(well not infected, just the gums get dirty n shit)

Lads help

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/?report=classic

Really makes you think.

LOL obvious troll is obvious

Floss carefully every night retard.

Thank you! Looking for them now!

Too much fluoride

Start filtering your water and stock up on brain force

Not really needed tbh, there are much better alternatives. I agree with the theorists on this one.

The aspartame one is bullshit though, there's nothing wrong with it.

They oppose vaccines for the wrong reasons too, the autism thing is bullshit. I don't trust vaccines because of contamination issues which have occured in the past (polio vaccine) and counterfeits being on the market.

how is this trolling?

I'm asking a serious fucking question

flossing wont get rid of shit on the top of my gums

Parents already have a water filter lad

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Based

Now make sure to stock up on pro pure liver cleanse

Yeah, they still leave the easily debunked and half-truthed ones up which are made by idiots.

got the webm of alex jones taking his shirt off?

I got something similar

So much Alex Jones posting in such a short period of time

WE'RE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Where has he actually said this? Or is it banter?

Lad.

When you brush, do you brush side to side, across your teeth?
Or do you brush up and down…
With the top of the brush facing directly upwards (or directly downwards?)

Also, if you have bacterial infection in your teeth.
Start eating mangoes and cooking chicken.
You get little to no bacteria in your mouth.

Lastly, rinse / swish with water after EVERY meal.

I once heard him argue that This war of mine MUST be played by all Alt righters because it gives real experience of a collapsed society.

Pity rather than hate. He's an art student who saw the Emperor has no clothes.

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side to side

alright fam

store.infowars.com/Infowars-Solar-Base-Station_p_1752.html

And this is supposedly the guy who talks about race wars and civil wars? What a joke, he'll be hiding under his mummy's bed.

You don't wanna do side to side. Do the directly verticle. its harder to position, but you will actually get the shit along your upper / lower gum-line

Pretty hot and heavy

I wonder why the Israelis decided to start putting flouride in their water again, they stopped it for a while in 2014 IIRC. Guess they're not so smart after all.

hmm

Who knows, the upper echelons probably don't drink that water, it's good to keep the lower kikes pacified I guess. I read that in New York the only neighbourhoods with clean water are the Jewish ones, don't know how true that is.

I've always secretly suspected that if the "jews" win.
After they are done wiping out the goyim, the elite jews will use machines to kill the pon jews.
& eventually, there will only be the elites left to repopulate.
Sheeeit, that's why I'd do…

noo, we're critical of everyone

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go away

No bullies, just rain

How come your pictures all have numbers??
How do you find the pictures at all?

Perhaps I will meet the King under the mountain.

MUMMY I'M HUNGRY!

mountains only ever contain jews

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I'm picking the ones I like from boards.4chan.org/wsg/thread/1264936/gondola-thread#p1265871

gives me feels

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Shit you lads going to watch the Proms? Going to be patriotic man, hope the EU cunts get wrecked

Maybe we'll all meet him one day

i don't have a tv license

this genuinely makes my ears uncomfortable

It's the chan filename formatting, but 8ch moved to a 32 byte hash. It's also the number of milliseconds since 1970.

Watch it online and lie about having a TV licence.

Beautiful

Be a madman

Yeah it has a negative affect on some people

It should make the top of your head and your spine tingle and make you feel like a jelly

Love this

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Is it affect of effect? I always get them mixed up

So you never rename your pictures??
You just keep them as numbers??

Are you sure you aren't chat bots?

In
context it would be effect.

Kek love this

Ahh right, thanks

Some do, some don't, some download as the original filename. Each to his own tbh.

Thank you! It works. I thought that they have some checking in place, but you just need to run flash.

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It makes me want to kill the person doing it.

Tbh just reading this made me want to kill you - particularly the 'make you feel like a jelly' part.
Stop typing like a ten year old girl. Why do so many lads try to act 'cute' these days? It's atrocious enough when women do it.

this meme is so normie it gave me a social life

Wow, this one is really stunning…
Thanks for showing me that link :D

4pol isn't so bad… is it?

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Game of verdun anybody?
lurking the steam group with nothing to do.

Just don't tell the bullies you go to 4chan and you'll be fine.

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You're gay

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ill play verdun with you tomorrow lad

last night of the proms soon lad add me if you want tbh, im the first admin

Only stuck up twats watch the Proms, working class lads are too busy watching TNA wrestling on challenge

Very devilish of you tbh

I watched it on friday replay on wooo

Delete or Decay is 10/10

kys2bh

If the beta's anything to go by, BF1 is absolute trash not even counting the stuff in that pic tbh.

I don't watch anything on BBC, it's shite

Defending Jahans? He said that on Facebook. He was serious, not banter.

kek

alright,look for the name full and add me

will do

i wasn't asking to play bf1 mate

Don't really watch tele anymore.

WEM'EMs only plz

But I can't make webms, lad. I tried to learn once, but it was too hard.

I know lad, just felt like commenting on it tbh.

He doesn't deserve the pains of being the Syrian leader.

fuck off lad you uncultured swineherd
its the highlight of my year tbh

Then do what I do and gather as many as possible so you can just post them and act like you know what you're talking about.

One wonders if his brother would have been just as based.

Whats this map then lad?

I wasn't expecting these feels tbh lads.

Purchasing power index. How far your money goes.

But I didn't have that one and I was desperate for (you)s.

Broken Matt is fucking amazing.

I will help you grow stronger, friend.

Found something better tbh
taima.tv/r/wooo

Nah all the erectile dysfunction stuff

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awful lad
cuck gets stuck with bitch wife who took multiple sloppies to the vaginal region and goes back to dirt poor life farming turnips with infertile meat flaps wife
id rather die tbh

REEEEEEEEEEEEE I WANT A FAMILYYYY

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DECIMATE THEM ALL VARG

BECOME THE KING OF YOUTUBE

AHHHHHHHHH I AM JUST SHARING FRESH VARGS

What has Varg ever done for politics, though?
N O T L O C A L

He's guiding us on how to prepare and survive the RaHoWa lad

it's for the best tbh, they would just get raped by muslims

All I've got from Varg is third party and it amounts to burn churches fuck women fuck immigration.

LADS
WATCHING THE SIMPSONS AND I NOTICED THIS

Sounds like a
HEALTH CLUB

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No.

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She seemed proper scared lol

Isis was an egyptian god.

are you just now realizing ISIS is an egyptian god?

Wouldn't be the last time you see that…

DAFTIES

lads was hoping to fool a few lads, you're smarter than i thought

How did Varg meet his wife? Is she one of those women that are attracted to prisoners and she found him or what?

Egyptian mother goddess adopted by the Romans and Greeks and in the early 5th century Isis and Horus imagery in Egypt was Christianized into the Madonna and Child iconography
christ as a baby with mary statues and paintings is literally the result of the Egyptian desert father christians secretly harbouring boners for Isis and Horus and altering their icons to reflect Christ so they would survive
tbh

Varg is an attractive musician.

ISIS WAS FORMED THE VERY DAY CRUDE OIL TOPPED OUT AT 104.50

ISIS was reported for the VERY FIRST TIME.
On the final day before Crude Fell $80…

(((COINCIDENCE… RIGHT?)))

checked, you beat me to it by a few seconds

the whole egyptian throughback thing of the elite occultists is very obvious. naming their secret arab military ISIS was a dumb move. They tried to push ISIL but it was too late.

Oh. So I only have to become attractive and a musician?

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Really makes you think.

He made a video on it tbh lad

Which is your favourite Varg song?

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worst part i found about the name was hearing about a seven yo white girl being bullied at school because her hippy parents named her Isis and the media began using the acronym ISIS so she got bullied for it
worst reason too, Isis was a nice goddess

Vargs a singer?

the one that isn't power chords and screaming

Imagine going on a date with Vargs daughter.

Wew.

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BURZUM and some early Mayhem collaboration before he killed Euronymous

How fucking unfortunate, banter must be off the charts though.

How's The Proms been so far?

Is that really her lad?

He has a daughter that old?

Do people actually watch it before the last night?

How do I defeat the Yanks, lads?

I guess nothings really lost not paying attention to him.

His ambient later stuff is nice

Those latter black metal albums are some of his best

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He killed a guy?

+1 due to the church fire where a fireman was killed

did you read the post you replied to??

oops

I highly doubt normies give a monkeys about it until it's popular among their peers (the last night) so I doubt it.

Looking for some elaboration.

From another woman

Yeah he knocked up his ex-girlfriend before going to prison

Not every woman holding a baby is a reference to Isis, you know.

like this

Why does everyone hate Woes now?

Who's that woman? I saw a painting that looked just like her somewhere.

Are the Lethal Weapon movies any good lads?

please smash up remoaners ultra-nationalists
please smash up remoaners ultra-nationalists
please smash up remoaners ultra-nationalists
please smash up remoaners ultra-nationalists
please smash up remoaners ultra-nationalists
please smash up remoaners ultra-nationalists
please smash up remoaners ultra-nationalists
please smash up remoaners ultra-nationalists
please smash up remoaners ultra-nationalists

Bit of a twat tbh.

Yes.

He got fat, lad. Bullies love soft targets.

That was a rumour that came from TRS

Apparently Woes couldn't get it up for his German gf, and tried talking to one of the ladies from the waif view, who went ahead and told other people

Moral of the story - never trust a woman with your secrets

they have proof in Egypt lad
statues altered to remove the golden grain stalks on her head with a wimple and chipping the falcon headed babies face into a crude humans face all dated to 5th/6th AD in Egypt
everywhere except Germany, Italy and Greece didnt give up their native gods entirely even when christianity came

I bet the Freemasons did this

He smokes too much.

You smoke too much cock

Well smoking is known to do that and he sucks down a hundred a day.

Remainiacs gonna get fuuucked uuup

Sure you'd know bender.

wew

10:13

it all goes back to the book of thoth lad

Smokes too much, drinks coke, doesn't exercise at all, doesn't go outside

He's King of the NEETs

Hmm, never thought of it like that lad, interesting.

so they modified existing statues, doesn't mean shit
they can chip the Tsar's beard off his statue to make him look like Medvedev, doesn't mean they're the same guy

He fucked up the one benefit of smoking

LADS REMEMBER TO SCREENSHOT ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS DURING THE PROMS
THE REMAIN TEARS WILL BE GREAT

He didn't look cool either.

nobody died in his church fires

he stabbed the fuck out of a former bandmate. he says it was self defense but he was convicted of murder and served 15 years