Achieving the Final Victory

This bothers me almost every moment of my life. I think, I think and I think but I simply can not see. What I am talking about is our final victory. Is it near impossible for one to sit and wait for a "boiling point" or civil war, it quite simply is not in sight just yet. And every second we wait is a second more further away from our success. Rewind back to 1930's Germany and you saw the NSDAP, through much struggle and sacrifice, on their way to claiming governance. Fastforward to 2016 and many of us are sitting here waiting for Trump (not me, I'm in Australia!) to be elected or are at most involved in small Nationalist groups. Before I we go further we must analyze and compare the situations of the NSDAP victory, to our current environment.

1930's Germany
- Much of the world in crippling depression. Suicide through the roof and many are starving to death.
- Democracy newly introduced.
- Many Germans disheartened from the loss of WW1 and their lands.
- Much of the Weimar Republic government very right wing.
- A mostly homogeneous nation.
- Culture and morals such as traditional marriage, nuclear family, Christianity etc. still maintained in mainstream society.
- The threat of blatant communism.
- Anti-semitic tendencies somewhat a common sight.

Modern Day
- World economy in a state which is bearable for the average joe (and still quite enjoyable for many).
- Democracy something we are deeply familiar with since birth and near all people see as the only option for a fair society.
- A society (mostly youth) depraved of ALL morals.
- Schools of blatant marxist indoctrination. (e.g. the destruction of the family unit and the destruction of gender)
- Communist and/or marxist infiltration in the government system. With nearly all politicians in power being left wing (especially Europe).
- Previously white nations which could barely even be considered to have white majorities anymore.
- Rampant consumerism and materialism.
- Large fronts against "racism", "sexism", "anti-semitism" and the like.
- A government which viciously spies on it's citizens through the various technological devices we all own. (Smart phones, computers, internet footprint etc.)
- A people who are distracted and mislead by the media. They are given a false sense of "everything is ok" so nobody has any urgency nor do they have any interest in political events.

Anyway I think you get the idea. Our situation is so much more different. Now I am willing to sacrifice my life for the cause and lead a movement. But the largest problem I have is the success rate. The NSDAP spent over 10 years working to achieve what they wanted with so much sacrifice and yet the environment for them to win was so much more in their favour.

So, is it possible to achieve our final victory through the democratic election of a party which mirrors the NSDAP? Or must we do it another way.

No matter the method, we simply can not afford to lose or have the movement subverted.

So basically, ITT: How do we achieve our final victory without sitting around waiting for a "civil war" which may never happen. The election of anti-immigrant or right wing parties will NOT give us our final victory (infact it may make it even harder believe it or not). So we must act now. I have plans on my own for an all out national movement, but will it work?

This is something that I ponder on daily and I was hoping Holla Forums could bring some insight into my daily struggle and create discussion around actual practical action.

(pic related, comparison of the times)

I don't know the answers to your questions, I wonder the same.


Act in what way? I don't know what to do.

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No, you can fuck off, Kyle.
Your thread is shit.
Accelerationism is a shit meme.
You just hate America and everybody knows it.

Stop using pol,go out , hit gym, socialize, have sex, make babies.

The influx of immigrants will make it that this year will come a conflict but this time eu will use their new army and jihadists and will eliminate most of the white european population. This is scenario number one.

The second one is that they will use immigrants and by 2020 europeans between 20-35 will be minority and then they will use their army to genocide white people.

It will soon end and I have no idea how anyone can prevent it from happening. I dont know how people are going to survive if jihadists in millions will attack natives because they will have no other choice and the eu army and NATO will be used also to kill them. Noone will protect them.

In 2020 most europeans will be dead.

I tried a lot of psychology to spread this into peoples brains but it is no good. There is not enough time for normies to awake and then also prepare. Most are still sleeping. Even in the eastern europe they are sleeping.

The future torch is asia. I hope asians wont fall for the jews and will genocide them when the chaos begin.

Are you autistic? Where and when did I say don't vote for Trump or any other right wing parties?

I included the "it may even make it harder" because I had theorized that if right wing parties were able to prevent the recent issues which has causes a rise in Nationalism, it may potentially lead to people becoming content again because they do not need to worry about the previous issues like the refugee crisis or 60 different genders.

If we do not seize this opportunity of mass instability it may be too late when things stabilize a little more. It's a bit like a stock market. Only a theory fuckhead, no reason so sperg out and yell "kike!".

Fuck off.
Euro detected.
Fuck off.

You're a fucking idiot user. Go be a child elsewhere.

Both times were full with semitic influence and the decadence of the west.Christians didnt even vote for Hitler during the elections

Chip away at the tree until it falls down.

once a global conflict turns into a war, you won't be sitting around much longer. don't wish for something you can't possibly imagine. war is hell.

Consider it an honor of the highest order to have been selected by fate to partake in perhaps the most important struggle in recorded history. Take it as a compliment that the universe saw it fit to stack the odds against you. Nature is challenging us and if we are true in our ideals then we shall surely win. Otherwise go down with a fight.

Take some zyklon B and think it over.

You mean Catholics didn't vote for Hitler (because they bloc-voted for their special-interest Zentrum party instead). Obviously for the NSDAP to do as they did and gain the biggest share of votes in a 95% Christian country, a lot of Christians would have to vote for them.

But do you believe that a political party much like the NSDAP right now would be likely to succeed in the current environment we have?

Or do you believe it is better to wait?

The main issue is how hard it is to wait right now while my country is flooded by niggers and the youth are systematically corrupted.

THE ONLY WAT TO WIN IS TO OWN THE MONEY AND THE WEALTH!!!

VICTORY IS BOUND TO WEALTH!
THE JEWS OWN THE FED, BANKS, AND INDIVIDUAL WEALTH

so they end up financing both sides (including the nazis), they buy up all the media and control the politicians because they control the money

Waiting is death. In 2020 most young between 20-35yo europeans will be minority. That means islamists will be majority in 3-4 years in Germany, England, France, Sweden at minimum. I dont think we have those years because it will be over at that time. The governments will take all freedom and people will just starve in misery.

Jews will profit of course again.

There won't be a "final victory". We will not gain any substantial political power and get to reform society like Hitler did. Nothing will be solved, and we as a race will not be magically saved from our current path.

West is like a withering corpse, parasites controlling our last motor functions forcing us to go through the empty motions, vultures and hyenas circling and feeding when possible.

Our lot is of minor, localized struggle. No grand armies, no large scale uprisings, no hope of 'being great again'.
Just you and me against the drones of the machine, until we are no more.

This is our worldwide Alamo, the last stand. Refuse to go out with a whimper.

This is the truth. The time of victory is no more. The west is already defeated. The time of heroes however is just beginning. The genocide of west and white people is not going to stop. Its the end of our world for us.

The time of heroes is a time where revolutions begin but when no revolution can be done and save your people like the west then the time of heroes is a time of revenge and great deeds. The last stand.

Once the decay accelerates and death is grasping us if you are able you can choose to fight for your own glory like Don Quixote.

Maybe you will be one of those who will be remembered like a hero and will become a myth being told who knows where. There were people who never thought they would be known in some shithole that didnt even exist at that time and it will be the same now.

This is the time of heroes and soon to be time of vengeance.

LARPer get out. If there's an ideology or a political party that's going to stop the programmed destruction of the western world it will not look, sound or feel like Nazism because that thing was specifically german, it was german ultranationalism.

I'm skeptical of anything that insinuates the NSDAP was funding by the west. There's too much propaganda from all sides.

Kill yourselves.

Bump.

fuck.

Oh what will it look like Shlomo? Communism I suppose! Yeah go- guys, lets abandon what fucking works and don't forget guys! Hey guys I'm really cool, because I called someone a LARPer!!

Fuck off please.

This. I guess those marxists have been larping for the last century. Those bodies are just pretend, goy.

It's honestly such a shame that so few on Holla Forums have leadership qualities. I suppose our only pathway is to build our bodies and minds in preparation of a conflict that will put our lives at risk, be it a pack of niggers chimping out or good goys removing a dangerous extremist. I'd say the user who says to build wealth is right, but at the rate that the situation worsens, I doubt many of us will be able to amass anything of significance in time.

I guess the best we can do is try to dispense redpill light to as many people as possible but as long as the conditions aren't hell on year with wheelbarrows of money rolled around to purchase bread, the average goy, even one we teach about the jew and the genocide inflicted on us, isn't going to pick up arms and forcibly remove the parasite.

Fucking. make. kids.
End of story.

Schlomo strikes again with his defeatism.

Niggers and shitskins are fucking animals that could be outfought by old men (if they even fight back when deported), the real front isn't the birthrate (for the next 10-20 years), it's the hearts and minds of the white population worldwide - what "we" need more than ever is redpilling, to get our parties into power and to stop good goyim America from nipping the anti-kike revolutions in the bud.

just end your fucking life normie scum.

Thanks for letting us all know you are anti-white.

fuck off m80.

Nice comeback.

DIE NORMIE SCUM

Oh look another anti-white who thinks the same old gore pics are going to bother anyone. You even through in a cool face, you're such an oldfag bro.

y u mad doh?

Fuck off, American.


Well, you're not making it very difficult to hate America, both on this board and in real life.

And what possible reason could the elite have for exterminating their most productive and most docile servants? I read some crazy shit on this board but this is something else.

We don't.
We have to remove the current bullshit by any means first as we will not survive on an (((equal playing field))).

After the mass removal
Not to be a defeatist but there is no "final victory".
No mater what influences, external forces, races, images, ideas, ect. Some one will always be there to stir the pot of discontent be it for there own gain or simple chaos.

The only hope we have after removing the current major players has always been the same sense we started settling. Teach to cherish the family unit above all else, moderation and correct history with out "Leaving it open to interpretation". With out moderation and correct history, some ones idea of "protecting and ensuring the survival of" there family unit would include the destruction of there fellow man by there own hands.
Shits as old as hell, but no one remembers it.

One might figure there was more than just upset neets at that time, because nothing EVER gets done without somebody calling the shots and paying the bills. Given that all heroes are immediately murdered, this doesn't paint a good picture. Some might say this was a future invested in.

I remember when Holla Forums wasn't filled with these kinds of retards

It seems like a distant memory, now.

No, simply from the amount of invading muds who get to vote. Even if we wake up 75 % of whites it's not happening parliamentary. Neither will the invaders simple give up and go home when told to.

Maybe the US can get lucky because of a system which institutes a pseudo-monarch to rule for four years at a time, and in that case the possible solutions are simple: Find a man like Trump and hope he's really more racialist than he seems to or find a man like Hitler who can tell the truth and still win the masses, and do is soon. For every place with proportional representation however the solution can only be violence and it is going to be born out of misery. Simple demographics make anything else impossible.

This was going to be a short thing but look how it turned out.

Oh well. There are going to be two main factors in the awakening accentuating each other.

1. Things are going to get bad because a society can only host so many parasites before it crumbles.
2. We are going to see ever more hostility towards whites from the parasites as their numbers make them feel ever more secure.

The second thing is going to breed racial hatred and the first thing is going to both enable it and enforce it.

Political correctness works surprisingly bad and with surprising I mean completely predictably on starving people. When staying PC is no longer a strategy to preserve your comfortable life, because your life is no longer comfortable at all, the conditioned fear in people of going along with their instinctive repulsion of the invading races is naturally going to fade.

At the same time their minds are going to look for ways to become comfortable again, because that is how the mind of the common man works, and they are going to see a simple chain of events in their minds. They'll be remembering having a comfortable life with bear and TV, then mudskins started to appear everywhere, and now everything is has turned to shit. They will reach the obvious conclusion of cause and effect from this, and their increasing urge to get back their comfortable lives coupled with their decreasing fear of thinking the wrong thoughts is going to drive them to accept what they deep down already knew.

Add to this that the invaders are increasingly going to harass them. Earlier that worked to guilt whites (who were trapped in the Jewish narrative) into submission, but once a person has made that mental transition and accepted the darkies as the cause of their lost comfort it has the direct opposite effect. And by opposite I mean it makes them mad beyond description.

Continued

I'm gonna divert here but I need to because I get the feeling many people here don't understand one thing and that is how purely dominated by emotion common people are. Sure we all talk about it when it comes to herd mentality but rarely it's mentioned how ordinary people become when they are dominated by instinctive hatred, and its hard to really believe before you have seen for yourself. They will over night go from fairly PC to far more radical than the typical habitual nationalist. They will see a bunch of black kids and tell you outright they just want to run them over, seething with hatred. These are normal people who were triggered to switch mentally, usually by their children encountering the enriches, and the change is total. Every ounce their humanitarian inhibitions is removed when an ordinary man learns to hate.

I also want to add, since it is important to the overall question, that white people have two modes of operation regarding conflicts; avoiding the problem if at all possible, and if not removing the problem. If a white person has a car run into his he typically doesn't jump out screaming like an ape and starts fighting like a colored person does. Instead he gets out, mad as hell, and settles the insurance issues. The other person may be mad as hell too, because he thinks the first guy stopped at a stupid place, but accepts he was the one who ran into a standing car and cedes. This ability to not descend into violence at every snag which must constantly occur in a large society is why our civilization works. It's also the reason white flight is a phenomenon while niggers kill each other regarding the most insignificant issues of their hoods: If it is possible to move out of the way of the problem rather than having a conflict white people usually prefer the former. It's a strategy that makes sense for small tribes in a hostile environment where conflict can easily lead to an entire tribe succumbing during the winter.

If the problem can't be avoided however the strategy changes to solving it permanently. If you are going to fight you may as well go all they. Case in point is Pearl Harbor. Though it was of course a manipulated event the change in mentality of the common American was obvious to see, as was the total dedication among the common man once the course of action had changed from peace to war.


Add to this that discomfort drives people's hatred even further. Add to this that us nationalist will be here to help people in making this transition. Add to this that the more people change opinion the easier and more certain the rest will change. The result is that when we get past the point of equilibrium, when things are bad enough and enough people have already spoken their mind to make the average man willing to join in, and the tide turns it will be an absolute flood. Once we get past a certain point the rest will join in nearly over night, and the result will be a bloodbath the likes of which have not been seen before on this planet. If a mere sneak attack on military vessels like Pearl Harbor could bring about a hatred great enough to result in what we saw from that single nation in that war, what will the attempted genocide of our entire race bring forth across the breadth of out civilization?

Did you know? There are countries outside of the USSA.

Did OP have a heart attack and die?

I apologize I actually forgot about my thread. Glad to see some productive things have been written in here. Thank you.

Reflecting on these comments, this is exactly the conditions we need, but these lost and angry sheep need a Shepard. And a real one. This situation is one where a phenomenon far greater than the NSDAP's rise to power would occur and an ultra-nationalist/national socialist uprising could spring up and take power with relative ease. That is of course provided our people ever get to that point.

But deep down I feel as if we still need a movement now in the case that something in the future may occur that prevents any sort of uprising whatsoever. Which is what I hope to achieve in the coming years.

Jerking off under your bed to Nazi anime pedo animal porn is not a plan. Real Nazis would have put a bullet into your manlet brain.

…okay? What does trump even have to do with nationalism?

Your that cuck civic nationalist faggot thats fine with 100 million niggers in the US huh?

Reminded of spengler when he spoke of the decline of the west he to was convinced this civilzation was over. The age of heros past the last brave souls died in 45

Just started reading DotW, but it seems to be more about the limits of what western civilization can do at this stage of its development, not that it is over. It can certainly fight for its soul but not reinvent it.

What the fuck are you on cunt? Is it really that hard to have a thread without spergy little retards or shills in it incapable of actual discussion?

Simple op, become the aryan.

Im almost there, just a little more.

We are white, we can class change to overman if we work our bodies as well as our minds.

Retard detected. Gas yourself, you are not welcome here.

When you've thought long and hard,and reached an IQ over 120, you can post again, faggot


What? Do you mean to suggest that the destruction of the old does not by necessity usher in the creation of the new? Do you mean to suggest that life and death are noth the vehicles for evolution? Do you mean to suggest that War is not the systematized format of War? Do you mean to suggest that War is not that field in which True Man realizes that defeat of the self and realization of the Self, through disregard of pety material concerns such as survival in exchange for higher sacrifice, bravery, courage, I AM? Begone.


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Evola speculated that in the grand scheme of things, is it not greater to actualize Transcendence when the odds are stacked against you? We forget that Plato or Shakespeare were Men. We are Men. My ideas and yours stand every chance of being equal to theirs.


In this current system, yes. Thank you for pointing out the obvious. Do you have any solutions, or should we wait 30 years until 10-20 Holla Forumslacks are multi-millionaires and can independently fund operations to save the White Race?

The only way to win is to destroy the economy. Really that's it, the only option.

Whites are at core a warrior race who conquered the entire fucking planet less than 100 years ago.

Meanwhile Arab are complete and utter dogshit at warfare. Your scenario is delusional.

There is
NO FINAL VICTORY
Just eternal struggle
And this is good
This makes us stronger

Think about it:
If you wanted to bring the best out of yourself, your nation, your race, what better way than an eternal enemy, a supervillain who never sleeps and never stops in his attempts to destroy you and EVERYTHING you love?
What better motivation can you imagine?

So get out there and
DO SOMETHING
ANYTHING
PLAY YOUR PART IN THIS ETERNAL COSMIC WAR
AND NEVER FEAR, THERE IS NO DEATH
JUST ETERNAL STRUGGLE
DARK AND LIGHT, POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE, YIN AND YAN
CHOOSE A SIDE AND FIGHT!
THIS IS THE ENERGY SOURCE OF ALL MATERIAL EXISTENCE
A PERPETUAL MOTION ENGINE OF OPPOSITES FOREVER CONTENDING

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The white race produces a lot of great leaders, the problem is that vision is as rare among them as among any other group.

This will work itself out the same way as for the angry sheep. It won't require a visionary mind like Hitler to realize what is happening or where things are going anymore so there will be more than enough able men to lead. If things are bad enough for the sheep to awaken so will the wolves.

The only issue is whether or not they understand who infected our societies with these subhumans, and that is where we have our single task. The revolt against our genocide will happen sooner or later so our task will lie solely on managing to direct the attention of our potential leaders to the hidden hand behind it all and making them understand that this problem requires a final solution.

Snekked it.

Bumping.

this would either mean to kick out all not wanted elements (nigs, kebabs, kikes) out of your country and building a wall or exterminating them for good so they cannot come back in 5 generations when your men become cucks again. Also abolishing all neocomunist policies (feminism, hate speech laws, political correctness etc.) is crucial.

Personally I don't fear the muds and the nigs. They are retarded and incompetent at war. Kicking them out would be enough, cutting off all foreign aid to their cuntries and watch them starve. The kikes however will never let you alone. Once you get rid of them, they go into another country to exile and mobilize all your enemies to fight against you. They simply cannot leave you alone.

you can never change anything in your cuntry by democracy. Changes are brought with iron and blood.

Aye that is something I can agree on, but there is no reason to not try. It has happened before.

I fear only their ability to outbreed us and overrun out homelands with the assistance of our current government (to which they will eventually dominate themselves).

But provided we organise and fight, they don't stand a chance no matter their numbers. Take the Spartans and Roman Empire for example.


This is why it is important to go all out or go home. We will never achieve our goals by getting these right wing parties to put band-aids on the festering wound. We must stand up and be proud, "Yes I want an all white nation!" "Yes I do not want any jewish influence in this nation!" etc etc.

We need a party/movement which can revolutionize our countries and how they are run. This is what I propose, I made this thread in hopes people could provide insight as to how we can achieve this goal with maximum success rate.