THE STATE OF OUR UNION

THE STATE OF OUR UNION

It appears to me that Holla Forums has forgotten what exactly needs to happen as a result of this election. Whether this is from a gradual replacement of the people here, buying into your own bullshit, or simple laziness when it comes to principles, I'm not sure. Regardless, the reason this board largely supports Trump, Farage, Wilders, and other "kosher" nationalists should not be due to pure agreement with every one of their politics, or head-in-the-sand denials that they will solve all of their countries' problems overnight. In fact, I'd say that to expect that after the numerous decades of gradual subversion and poz we've been subjected to is incredibly unrealistic. As much as people compare our current state to Weimar Germany, that's not true; they had it better.

Throwing our support towards these options is part of the desperation of our current state; in fact, it could be argued that these options even existing and being as popular as they are is the world agreeing that the current state is desperate. Britain would not be pushed towards decisions such as Brexit without this malaise that has washed over the west. These are not perfect men or even our allies. They are mere tools to be used by us to pull the people to our side.

Getting honest about (((Trump)))

Let's be real here. Trump surrounds himself with Jews. It's easy to say that he does so due to his connections in New York and it practically being a job requirement to do business there, but really, how realistic is it for someone to spend 70 years of their life surrounded with Jews, allying with Jews every step of the way to earn their millions, and keeping Jews as business partners and close confidants while secretly being a 14:88 BLAZE IT shitlord? Not at all. These connections are honest and his affinity for Jews and Israel is not one that should be understated.

This creates an interesting paradigm. The Jewish media depicts him as Hitler and his voters a bunch of kike-gassers, all the while he has many Jewish confidants and his voters are largely shabbos goy evangelicals. Something has to give here, and should Trump win, this will not end. The parentheses, while they were an effective redpilling technique, only did so much. Most people just thought it was Stormfront being Stormfront and wrote it off as nothing important. The next trick is getting them to see the light; why are all of these left wing Jews attacking Trump as anti-Semitic when he has a bunch of Jewish advisors? What do they have to gain from lobbing charges like that around? Keeping the Jews acting neurotic and histrionic may benefit us in the long run, and the Jews Trump has around himself can be leveraged against themselves, in a sense.

However, it needs to be said that these (((advisors))) show that we won't get what we want. In fact, we might not even get any of it. But that's not a bad thing, necessarily, as long as he does just enough to stem the tide.

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The First Step

Trump needs to be used as a means, NOT as an end. Any of you that think once he's elected, walls will pop up out of the ground, Mexicans will be catapulted back across the border, nogs will turn into respectable members of society, and our lives will turn into advertisements from a 1950s magazine need to get that idea out of your head right now. He won't fix everything. Hell, he might not even fix 10% of what we want him to. Let's address these things right now.

Trump is pro-legal immigration and bringing in people to take American jobs, provided they work. He is not nativist which is what we need, and certainly has no interest in bringing our demographics back to 1965 levels.
Trump is pro-Israel and pro-interventionism in the Clintonian sense. No boots on the ground, but jets overhead. His relationship with the current military state has yet to really be addressed.
Trump is pro-gay rights and has not addressed anything to solve the crisis of the failing American family or the current transgender agenda infecting our schools.
Trump is fine with bringing in Muslims from countries if they're "vetted" and has not said anything about bringing in persecuted Christians from the Middle East.
Trump supports massive tax cuts which will drive our nation further into debt to China. If you want to control someone, make them indebted to you.
Trump has started using DR3 rhetoric and catered to black communities recently during his campaign, and will likely try to draw them into the Republican tent under him.

That's not even getting into the lack of support many of his measures will get from the globalists in Congress, globalists that have been proven nearly impossible to primary.

He will fail us. But we need to be counting on this. After all, this election is about sending a message, both to those that want to pervert all that we hold dear and to those that might have leaned our way a little, that a third way is rising. One that rejects both the nihilistic progressivism of the left and the cucky Churchianity of the right, one that seeks to create and define ethnostates not from a supremacist standpoint but as guardians of a shared culture and history, one that rejects consumerism and the rise of the market-state, one that combines identity and tradition into a positive pro-white movement. This election is nothing more than the first step down the long road of guiiding people to that end, even if that step is simply plugging the neck of the hourglass a little and shilling to drum up support.

Build it up, tear it down.

Surely there will be many people who supported him for reasons similar to ours, even if they don't vocalize it or are even towards us yet. The unfufillied promises of a Trump presidency will leave them wondering what could have been. Where's the candidate that was going to bring jobs back to America? Why are there still a bunch of Spanish-speaking mestizos and fresh off the boat Africans milling around town? Whatever happened to us pulling out of NATO, or taking a harder stance on Muslim countries or China? Why are the companies still leaving?

Where's the great America I was promised?

And do you think they'll look to the globalist left for answers? The one openly advocating for white genocide, third worldism, trannies waving their female dicks around society, armpit-and-leg-hair feminism and niggers rioting all throughout downtown whenever a cop gets an itchy trigger finger? The ones wanting to sell our country downriver to the UN and ship our jobs to Vietnam?

No, they'll look further right.

What you all don't realize is Trump and the support we've given has stopped cuckservatism in its tracks BUT only if he wins. If he loses, odds are the (((establishment Right))) will be right back with more Wisconsin dairy-fed pozz, DR3 and globalism with white people instead of third worlders. Trump winning will administer a serious blow to the cucks, and 2018 will be a referendum on the heart and soul of the Republican party. It's key to support people that would support our causes over the McCain/Ryan wing of the party.

It's also key to ruthlessly attack and dog Trump for not doing enough to benefit white Americans.

We know he will fail us. To provide loud voices that advocate for the promises that others will want fulfilled will make them realize that they're not alone. If they feel like what they want cannot be accomplished through American politics, then more power to us. If they feel like the Republican party needs more people that represent our common interests, more power to us. To expect something similar to the Murdoch Murdoch video, where he flies in on an eagle, severed Muslim head in hand, triumphantly arriving to save America is foolish. But to those that expect it and don't get it? That's why we're here.

On Accelerationism

There are those that say that a Clinton presidency would do more to help our cause. This is completely false when you consider her personality and the way that the winds of change are blowing when it comes to globalist opinion. We've scared the ever loving shit out of them. Do you honestly think they would let us rebound? Do you think someone as ruthlessly Machiavellian as her, with the pile of bodies of vanquished enemies would simply shrug and say "They have a right to express themselves?" After all of the rhetoric she's thrown around this campaign, where it went from being all about her dusty old vagina to calling everyone to the left of Chomsky a bigot?

Hell no.

Take a look at the recent actions of Obama. The ICANN handover should be reason enough to be suspicious. Why on earth would he do such a thing? Do you think he honestly cares about promises like that? Consider Britain's problem with the EU and why they left. Nigel Farage would constantly talk about a group of unelected bureaucrats deciding the fates of Europe, with member states being expected to just get along regardless of their own laws or thoughts on the matter.

The reason why ICANN was given over was to set us up. It was to circumvent the guarantees Americans are granted under the Constitution. These are the fruits of globalism, extranational organizations created by elites, for elites with the goal of zero-accountability sovereign control over member states and its citizens. The Bill of Rights? Null and void if the UN ends up getting the kind of power it desires and that globalists want to give it.

Hillary would accelerate this. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that's her goal. Collect as many shekels as possible from as many countries as possible to part off American interests to the highest bidder, or give them away to the UN in the interest of stripping the US bare. Not to mention, she would ramp up the third worldism, flooding our streets with mudslimes and mestizos to secure Democratic victories for the rest of time, turning the US into a functional one-party state and leaving white Americans, who already have an incredibly hard time emigrating places, with nowhere to turn to. We'll be Boers.

If this is the future you want, then go on, buy into accelerationism. When you find the Firestone around your neck, don't say I didn't warn you.

The Game Plan

For now, support Trump. On November 8th, vote Trump. On November 9th and from then on, if Trump wins, attack Trump for cucking on issues that are important not just to us, but to the base that voted for him. Keep the redpills handy and be judicious in dealing them to the ignorant plebs. Consider registering as Republican and running for a low-level office, such as county board or something. That Cruz cuck Rob Morrow won by simply being the first name on the ballot.

If Hillary wins, then you'd best /meadhall/ up as soon as possible because this site and others like it aren't long for this world. It'd be a good idea to start now, in fact.

Just remember, our fight doesn't end in November.

Sorry, ‘wait for hitler’ shill. You’re reported.

Try to be less predictable, Goldblatt

He said otherwise. Kill yourself.
pic related.
Or you could do some fucking research of your own.
Said that the faggot marriage ruling shouldn’t have happened.
Meaning, if you’d actually listen and not be a paid shill, they’re not coming in.
Holy fucking shit, at least be subtle with your shilling.

1. China’s portion of our FOREIGN debt isn’t even the largest.
2. China’s portion of our TOTAL debt is nigh meaningless.
3. The debt itself is meaningless due to the structure of our monetary system. There is more than 1 dollar of debt in existence for every dollar in existence. IT. BY. DEFINITION. CAN. NEVER. BE. REPAID. therefore it is meaningless kike bullshittery. Meanwhile, TRUMP HAS FORCED THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM TO INCLUDE A COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS RETURNING TO THE GOLD STANDARD and explicitly wants specie himself.
The chinks have not won a war in FOUR HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS, you cocksucking faggot. You know nothing.
If only that meant something.
Yeah, we need niggers to vote. What’s your point? They have to go back, too.

Reported again. Blow your fucking brains out.

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Oh look, it's another concern trolling larpfag. Greatest accomplishment: shilling against the only successful moderately pro-white person around.

Nah, I'm not reading all your autistic bullshit. Everyone is already reserved about Trump. You're no smarter than anyone else here and not privy to any secret insights about anything. Do something useful or do your concern trolling after the election queer.

Bump for OP. Trump is a means to an end right now. He has shown that he is the most useful tool we have but we are the most useful tool he has

Post your pic.

He said that from a states' rights perspective and not from a moral perspective. He said so as a defense of the 10th Amendment and judicial overreach and not as an indictment on gay marriage. His reply was avoiding the topic.

You must have missed where I said that him disappointing all of you in the end should be expected, prepared for, and turned into a positive? He's not the be all end all, we are.

He mentioned "historical immigration levels," whatever that means. Once I hear the number "1965" leave his lips then I'll believe you. Until then? Could be many things.

Sure, sure. Think in terms of well wishes and absolutes. Just remember what I said if he lets you down, we'll be right here to pick up the pieces. You know what you want and I want the same thing. Do you know it's what he wants and will be able to accomplish? You do know Congress is almost 100% globalist still, right?

I'm trying to inject a little realism here.

Ah, fuck.

Only shills like you think that he’s hitler. Every single actual Holla Forumsack knows he’s only the first step.

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lol sage

When was that written?

Not an argument

1961.

So it's a piece old enough to apply for AARP membership, and you don't think his views could have been molded by other influences in his life since then?

This is you. Tell your handlers to fire you.

This place is fucked. Sucks there's no good Holla Forumss anymore. If I posted this on end/pol/ I'd get the same treatment for supporting Trump instead.

You’re not even trying. Go fuck yourself. We don’t give a shit if you never come back.

I'll level with you OP,

I agree your interpretation of things is on th spectrum of possibilities, but I do find it to be on the pessimistic side of it, if not the worst possible read on Trump.

I would argue Trump did not even go as far possible, be it for the mere level of pozziness our societies is in atm, considering the % of people that are bluepilled and brainwashed

I would argue he already stretched as far right he could in order to wake up the remaining shread of intelligence of normies and making the left fit out of their mough exposing the left. while at the same time stopping just short of political suicide. he truly read the population and accurately stretched the rubber band way further the left even imagined was possible.

I do hope that it will also show politicians wanna be ya can say your mind without being lynched, and hopefully help more people talk about true issues without fear.

but time will tell, Trump first, then pressure him into doing what he said, even if partly.

If it's normal for you to criticize him, then why does my criticizing him make me a shill?

We have legitimate reasons. You’re just a fucking retard.

I really hope that this is the case, and yes, he probably is going as far right as he can without losing people. Maybe this is all calculated. So do you think his base would end up happy with his presidency? Look into the future a little, say, November 2017. Where do you think we'll be?

Trump won't do anything we say. He is just another tool, any intelligent human being knows that. He is just on the "right" side. He doesn't give a shit about whites, he cares about bringing money to America. If he could turn America black but make it 10x richer he would.

Any real party with support(that could harm the establishment) would be immediately attacked and destroyed from all points.

They assassinate journalists, whistle blowers and even individuals who try to expose police injustice. Do you think they would have any problems infiltrating these groups, killing off the main people and then taking control of these groups?

Look at the alt-right. It's infested with jews, homosexuals(and their admirers) and other degenerates. They don't talk about the jewish problem, they don't talk about white genocide. All they talk about is how bad the liberals are. Just like these jews in canada:youtube.com/channel/UCGy6uV7yqGWDeUWTZzT3ZEg

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no idea, the story has not even begun, his election will be the premice of a new book on societies ultimate and last ditch effort to redeem itself, we know the protagonist, we know the evil overlord, we even know some of traps they can use to curb the hero. they might try to collase the economy, use their money to create a new war forcing Trump into fighting it at a loss, they can cuck the law and negate all attempts by Trump to fix things.

what we DON'T know is Trump, he is the wild card, can he handle it? will he try something new no one ever had? for example he couldreach an agreement with mexico to enply mexicans and mexican quarries to help build his wall, stimulate their economy, sell the idea to mexicans that the wall will stop guns, and starve cartels of drug money, make mexico a tourist haven those are reasons enough to have mexico pay to build the wall. He can trully find a way to deal with russia on common grounds, change some rules about speculation and work with the gold standard. IF he knows his history, he might try to find an underhanded way to deal with the feds even, as log he dont tell his plans, he might have a chance and not get shot.

he has it right about one thing, never tell your enemies your plan, and so far he didnt give no details, wishful thinking, but i suspect he knows the enemy is within

employ

UNTIL TRUMP PUTS THE FULL PALM OF HIS HAND UPON THE WAILING WALL HE IS STILL ONE OF HIS!

I understand the sacrifice he made by allowing his daughter to marry a Jew, the sacrifice of his own blood, will allow us to have some.

Wait what base are those numbers in?

If that's his plan, then that's making me a lot more optimistic about this. Him advocating the gold standard during the campaign would be more than political suicide, I'll say that much. Look at what they did to Gaddafi over it.

I guess I've just been burned too many times before. Bush campaigning to avoid "nation building" after Clinton's adventures in the Balkans. Obama talking about "hope and change" when the only change he's brought has drained us of hope. I might just be too used to seeing our leaders campaign on one thing and then have the opposite happen under their watch.


Don't give them ideas, user

When will you shills realize that this shit has literally never worked?

Its insulting that you're this fucking stupid.
And to think you wasted all that fucking time writing up this stupid bullshit that I'm not not going to even bother reading.

Donald Trump's daughter and heir is married to a Jew. That alone validates what OP is saying. Donald Trump wants America to be great again but he is a Jew lover and insane. He is useful but still capitalist. A proper socialist is needed to fix the problems at the core of America. Donald Trump is still a race traitor.

Fuck off

The problem with talking honestly about Trump is that the shills often come in to try change "be skeptical about Trump" to "Trump is a complete fraud". Keep pushing Donald Trump memes and vote for Trump in November but try to understand who Trump is and why he is running for president.

I could have seen that coming.

They do it for you, they do it for me, they do it 3333

OP here, I punched that up while waiting for laundry to finish at my family's. I ate a 6 hour ban for this post as well as getting it locked. Banned for "getting ahead of myself."

I was saying that it doesn't matter, that if he is, which I doubt, we can use it to our advantage.

Personally, I think he'll try to follow through on some of his promises. Just some. And the globalists in Congress will hamstring his efforts. He's no more a fraud than your average candidate, and frankly, probably more honest than any we've seen since Perot.