How many of your (nerdy) childhood memories have been poisoned by shitty corporations? How would you handle it...

How many of your (nerdy) childhood memories have been poisoned by shitty corporations? How would you handle it, if you were to create something yourself?

If you're a gamurr, then you're shit out of luck. Probably your fav dev/series has been assimilated or corrupted. Or maybe something else you once enjoyed is now mutilated beyond recognition?

But wait, there's more! If I were to create a game today, I would be extremely worried about accidentally copying the dirty tricks of the big corps. More specifically, I would worry about creating an addictive skinnerbox. In addition, I would worry about nurturing a cancerous fanbase before giving in and sticking with this audience for the sake of profit. Am I alone on these things?

You don't necessarily have to talk about the same issues ITT. Feel free to talk about anti-capitalist themes instead, and how you would implement them in your work.

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youtube.com/watch?v=pN1BWqIiAp4
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Ghostbusters, Mad Max, Star Wars.

My favorite childhood game is Ratchet and Clank.

Well, kinda ruined

I was a Westwood fanboy cause RA2 and Emperor Battle for Dune. … And then RA3 came.

Indies are not longlasting creations. They come and go. And AAA are all shit. Creativity is long gone in our era. Either you make a short game that nobody will trully play or you get a publisher and do as they say. Or you go full wageslave. A L I E N A T I O N.

In short, you cannot create long lasting works of art under late capitalism.

I enjoyed a good number of games in my childhood, but luckily I never paid a cent for them (they were all used and given to me by charity).

In hindsight, I'm glad my parents never bought me games and gave money to unscrupulous corporations and publishers.

Comic books. When I was a boy I loved capeshit and the wonder that was comics. As I grew older I saw price hikes, declining page count, and the paper itself seemed to get flimsier. Then I talked to artists basically living starvation income and how the comics industry and Hollywood ruthlessly mine the work of creators while giving them peanuts. It's disgusting and even if most comics were good I doubt I could enjoy them.


I have no idea. I'd like to write and direct movies, but fueling the collection of pedophiles and scum that run Hollywood is off-putting. Maybe I'd be able to do indie films and run a co-op production company, but I'm afraid of washing up and becoming a hack who directs romcoms or commercials.

This.

Fucking EA. I still play some of the older games. Dune 2000 still runs flawlessly, oddly enough. Even on windows 10

EA fucked up Dead Space with 3 before it could even become a major franchise for them, it still baffles me the sheer level of their incompetence. A weapon crafting system in an action-horror franchise… with microtransactions. Not to mention that they specifically asked for the game to be co-op and made the ending have the biggest cliffhanger only to shut down any talks of further sequels in favor of making Visceral Games work on Star Wars instead.

kotaku.com/how-the-dead-space-saga-lost-its-way-1640762555

I know it's >kotaku but it's an actually good article of how Dead Space as a game series was fucked over.

Soul crushing isn't it?

Starcraft+Brood War, Diablo2+Lord of Destruction, Age of Empires 2, Counter Strike (1.0.0.0) and Silent Hunter were the greatest games ever made and no games will rival them in fun and replayability ever again.

Cringe-worthy is more like it. Their trailer is the most downvoted video in youtube history. Also bitch on the right straight up looks like a gorilla. Feminism needs to die.

Casting an attractive black woman would have been sexist :^(

lol, there is no such thing

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What's wrong with killing mudslimes?

The only vidya to be saved from rape were too niche for the profit machine to mangle them.

fuck off

what's wrong with killing you?

sheboon detected

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yeah and what you gonna do about it?

I didn't say no you, I said, what about you? What makes you better than muslims?

try to communicate with you, let's see

OOGA BOOGA BIX NOOD

WATERMELONS AND CHICKEN, SHEEEIIIITTTT

when did I say I was better than them? I just fancy the idea of killing them because they are a threat to my people and way of life.

funny haven't heard that joke before

what is your people?

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What joke? I'm confused.

lol this is Holla Forums's punching bag, didn't you know that?

Why are you reacting like that? Why are you in this board?

white people obviously, did you even need to ask? White muslims don't count because they're traitors and need to die too.

whyyyyyyyyyy

And why are your people? All white people are your family? Define white.

You can figure it out for yourself, you're a big boy.

Except when Holla Forumsyps get BTFO everytime they try to bring their spooks into politics.

equality is a spook

are you ok my white friend?

you don't know what spook is

communism is a spook

no I can't, I've cleaned myself from spooks and propaganda years ago. I am a free man.

communism is a spectre that is spooking porkies like you

you are a spook

freedom is a spook

porky is a spook

stirner is a spook

nope, you just don't understand because you are lost deep into the propaganda

propaganda is a spook

A=A tho, and "equality" has its rational basis herein.

rationality is a spook

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race is a spook
religion is a spook

smacks lips

OKAY DEN

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Using "Spook" wrong should be a banable offense.

Yeah, everyone knows equality is a spook.

lol

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Thanks for the memes, I guess.

Agreed but leave my precious BW out of this.

shut up whore

Favourite game during childhood was Fallout 2.
Its sequels just keep getting more disappointing, streamlined, and made for the console market.

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This is why thread IDs would be a good idea.

It's not. It's rulecuckery and an impediment to anonymity, that has been discussed several times on Holla Forums. If you want to be recognized get a fucking trip.

Would it be possible to film some web shorts or indie stuff?

I considered making comics but it seems like such a nightmarish career choice. You either satisfy an employer by working yourself into a coma to meet deadlines, or you somehow satisfy a specific, deranged audience online while being afraid to accidentally piss them off. Sell your health or your dignity. Maybe both.

That said, making games doesn't seem any better. Terrible companies, terrible job security, terrible fans all around no matter how hard you work and try your best.

I don't think I can try for indie games, since I can't find any like-minded people willing to dev. My intention would be to create a game with actual well-written political satire, that doesn't rely on RNG skinnerbox shit. But the people I know who still like games just want to either relive their weeaboo childhood memories or mimic some recently hyped up grindan gaem sandbox RNG-fest.

Actually I take that back. Thread IDs are a great idea.

No, I want to shitpost!

Microtransactions, especially on full-priced games are absolute cancer and need to fucking die. It saddens me that the community are starting to accept and defend them.
TB, being a "pro consumer voice" defending Overwatches monetisation was thorougly dissappointing to me.
Mobile games are also fucking disgusting to me. Pure psycological manipulation and exploitation of their "player" base. With some companies going as far as to stalk "whale" users on social media, find out what appeals to them and add similar items to the game.
It can also be alienating to see games (like any art) displaying capitalist ideology in their themes and messages. I should be used to it by now but lately the alienation of society's ideolgy has really been getting to me lately.

Recommendations of truly leftist games would be much appreciated.

I also fucking hate how vaporwave has been reappropriated and stripped of it's anti-capitalism message. I've seen clothing shops that try to implement the vaporwave aesthetic and completely miss the point. They attempt to polish it to a sheen and use it to push the ideology of "party! enjoy yourself" and remove the underlying satire and uncanney-valley aspects to a sickening degree.

Of course thread ID"s are a good idea, they help us know which of our users need to be carefully tracked and then purged by the mod secret police.

Mental Omega is a good mod for RA2.


EA fucks everything because accountants. Most modern big entertainment companies do. It's called "Capitalism is slowing down progress".


I'll take the freedom to say that either US or GB is your people, and I see no problem in killing them as they are a threadt to my people and way of life, as south europa.


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TB has the point of "well, am gonna die soon and all I got is money", but the system overwatche uses, on a 60$ game is worse than paradox's cosmetic DLCs. :^)

Tetris.

Also, Capitalism sells CCCP shirts to bourgie faggots. Capitalism has no morals.

Electronic Arts is a perfect example of why intellectual property should be abolished and creative control should be in the hands of creators, not investors. They are a company that should have – by merit alone – gone bankrupt by the end of the twentieth century, but their sports licenses have assured that they'll stay afloat, and the developers who made some of the best games of the time got bought by them along with their franchises, which they ran into the ground, leaving them to stagnate until they decide they can make some shitty cashgrab mobile game out of it.

Red Alert was the first game I ever played (which is funny in retrospect) and C&C remains one of my favorite series. The guys who worked there were fucking troopers, and even managed to make good games like RA2 even after they got bought out.

This one goes without saying. These guys were pioneers of interesting ideas, but once The Sims made too much money, EA decided that's all they were ever going to make. They still got to make Spore, although EA shat all over that and neutered what could have been one of the best fucking things ever conceived into an awkward parade of minigames.

One of the first companies to get shat on by EA, and they got shat on HARD. The Ultima series more or less invented computer RPGs (and to a certain extent JRPGs as well) and they were riding fucking high when The Black Gate and Serpent Isles were released. Then EA started fucking with them, and Pagan became a jumbled, nigh-unplayable mess of strewn together content. Then there was Ascension, which is genuinely one of the worst games I have ever witnessed from an aspect of quality, technicality, storytelling and many other angles. If you ever want to see how badly EA can fuck up a series, I dare you to watch a walkthrough of Ascension.

They weren't bought out, but these fuckers get a special mention. I was playing their games since Orcs & Humans, and everything they released was fucking magnificent and an important part of my childhood. I still play Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3 to this very day. Then they peaked with WoW, which was fucking amazing when it came out, but decayed when Blizzard forgot what fun was and only cared about tiers and metagame bullshit. Everything after that has been a slap to the face, and I don't even bother looking at anything they make anymore. Overwatch has been all over my feeds, and I refuse to even acknowledge it. Except for the porn.

vaporwave was already kill by all those memewave kids from halfchan

"They want boobs! Give them boobs and make it like warcraft! Kids love warcraft!"
"Kids love to create stuff… make it cartoony! Kids will love it!"

Also
"Kids don't know WW1! Why not give them jetpacks? .. ok, you can have a go"

Capitalism slows down progress, cause too much money go in too little projects and they are not allowed to fail.
See XCOM2 being a bugfest with shitty modability (while being advertised for it) and Fallout 4 being a console shooter. And all the money goes to marketing.

With or without Yuri's Revenge?
Also YR was kind of broken.

It's funny because people were waaay more excited about Tim Curry, George Takei and J.K. Simmons being in the game. This is the internet age, for fuck's sake. We can get free porn anytime we want, so why even bother?

With. … and it's fucking hard. And not broken.


Problem is, I liked Sofia in 2 and can quote almost every line from the soviet cutscenes. (even some alied). They had boobs, but they weren't the point of it.
In 3 they lost the point of everything. And made the mechanics all about "fast paced multi with abilities". It's just not C&C anymore.

Was I the only one that vomited in my mouth a little when I saw Tanya in RA3? Just the cover?

It was pure cancer. And I read through the booklet…100% cringe.

Yuri could make money out of nothing if he had a soviet barracks and the mutator, and the cloning vats made it nuts.

Red Alert 1 Tanya will always be best girl. She was just SO FUCKING CRAZY that she turned me on way more than either of her successors.


No you were not. She looked like a fucking parody of herself. Soviet covergirl and Yuriko were pretty hot, tho. Still, no amount of 3DPD could make the game better.

I bought Overwatch purely because I can't stand how barren the shooter genre has gotten. It's not the most innovative game ever and the microtransactions are disgusting, but if Blizzard can get moba-kiddies some aim practice maybe their tastes will shift to more competitive shooters when they get bored.

Which brings me to a company with a similar track record as EA, FUCKIN ZENIMAX. There were a few good Bethesda games, granted, but the history of this company has been filed with mediocre and sometimes downright embarassing (Fallout 4) disappointments. But what I really wanted to talk about was Zenimax buying ID software. This isn't the first story about Zenimax buying out acompany and destroying its IPs and it probably won't be the last. When they aquired ID, Quake Live was a dying game that needed some serious overhaul in order to appeal to the mainstream. No I don't mean skins locked behind microtransactions (although something like that would've been less annoying than the subscription system they had currently in place), the game was practically unusable as a newbie. If you know your way around IRC you can still get matches very easily, but the game itself only had a crude matchmaking feature. Keeping in mind that Quake has one of the highest skill ceilings in a competitive videogame, there were only FOUR tiers. So basically if you were a newbie, you could only get matches with tier 3 opponents, meaning a majority of the playerbase was tier 3. If you are were REALLY good you could get into tier 2, and if you were a pro you could get into tier 1. This resulted in tons of tier 3 matches where newbies would get stomped and then never play the game again, because instead of matching players based on their relative skill they are matched with a random player out of the bottom 60% of the playerbase. Needless to say, after the steam release there were 6000 players playing and that dropped down to around 500-1000 because nobody could get good matches. So now their making a new Quake and if they fuck it up again, that's the end for my favorite shooter series. Doom had lackluster multiplayer, but for this new Quake all they have to focus on is multiplayer. If they try to pull that snapmap shit, say goodbye to the modding community. If they can't get matchmaking right, then say goodbye to the competitive scene. Of course, this is Zenimax we're talking about, so I have no hopes in hell they'll do this right. I may purchase after seeing gameplay if it looks more competitive than Overwatch, but not if they show that they are hellbent on destroying arena shooters.

Deus Ex and Vampire the masquerade bloodlines was my childhood. Never ruined by Capitalism :).

DOOM4 still had a surprisingly good singleplayer campaign even if multiplayer and snapmap were shit. I've always been more about singleplayer in shooters. I dunno why, but I was never able to get on the Quake 3 / Unreal Tourney scene.

I heard Carmack say they were talking about making the next Quake game in the style of Quake 1 with all the industrial eldritch themes. If that happens, I will be pleased.

I mean the mod is not broken

Yep. Less is more.
3 Tanya was .. .. Why is she wearing make-up???


They'll fuck it up. MP will be JUST like doom.
They're already fucking up modding, by "consol mods" being a shitstorm.
They just don't know/care how things work anymore. All they see is charts, infographs and checklists.


Deus X is ruined.
Vampire wasn't because it seized to exist. (Unless paradox decides to do something with it now).

Invader zim was pulled from Nick because it was "too dark" or something AKA it was highly critical of capitalist society and its institutions.

I only play games on an individual basis. Age of Empires 2 is still as good as it always was, SC4 is still amazing.


Override your fears for losing control over what you create, make it a cooperative. This way, it can never be sold (EA, Minecraft) or turned into an anti-consumer cash grab (MMOS).

The most effective way to prevent your lifes work becoming a capitalist shit and you being thrown out because of "creative disagreements" is to trust that the programmers working on your game make better decisions for it than your financial manager or your future self high on porkies bloodmoney.

IE if you create a bussiness with good intentions, you have two main enemies:

1. Porky trying to buy out your stock

2. Future you, being a junkie for cash you don't need.

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Oh for goodness sake OP.

As much as I'm fond of the games and shows and movies and comics I enjoyed when I was younger, they were always a product, sold to me (or my parents, peer group etc.) by capitalists to enrich themselves and fill my head with cultural messsages and themes that I still struggle with today.

Games themselves are an interesting topic - when you play a game you essentially submit yourself to its ruleset. No matter what moves you make it is within the confines of the game, and even if you cheat you can only affect the game on its terms.

I think it is telling that most games work within the capitalist ideology - hoarding resources, expanding markets, defeating or otherwise surpassing enemies who would destroy you given the chance, building empires / getting stronger. Even grinding is little more than tedious work.

Where do you even begin to challenge these tropes? It's a tough question especially if you were to approach it in a way which doesn't beat the player over the head with ideology or undermine the very notion of precariousness and competition that games thrive on and capitalism imbues in its players. Even Tetris, a game that came out of the Soviet Union, has you scoring points in order to quantify your achievement.

Where would you even begin?

Don't hire code monkeys then you dumbfuck.

Also, im talking about the dicision which to take the company to, not the dicisions of what kind of level design to use, thats what you have a create director for, which would be followed if he is any good.

If any of the "code monkeys" dont wanna play ball, fire them.

also

Shove your art degree up your ass, parasite.

Appeasing our primitive instincts is not the same as controlling us with them, although it does paint a frightening picture when you look at things like FarmVille and realize the slow-drip of minor gratifications it offers, lead on by the promises of greater rewards for continued servitude, is interchangeable with actual capitalist subjugation.

Farm ville would be an OK game if it did not extord you for money though.

OK from that perspective, not a gameplay perspective.

I'm trying, but it takes a lot of money and I fell out with the only guy I knew with a decent camera.

You want to endlessly toil? We have an app for that. It's called life. You don't need farmville.

you're a retard

Porky casrep/Damage control procedure off the top of my head
Alien (cancerous games; antagonizing and hotocketing the fanbase)
Battle for Dune and Red Alert (company absorbed by EA)
Civs franchise (DRM, steam, making religion a fucking DLC)
Diablo (muh always-online, fucking broken)
Dr. Seus (shit-tier reboots and adaptations)
Dungeons & Dragons (muh moral panics, 3.5 edition core books could have been one $10 book or published free in pamphlets at FLGSs and on PDFs online, 4th edition was another cancerous attempt to appeal to the masses, splatbooks wound up making the game a Lensman Arms Race; Weaboo FIghtan Magic a shit)
Ghostbusters (ditto; antagonizing and strawmanning fanbase)
KISS (lawsuits; antagonizing and strawmanning fanbase, sneering Nazi Nobleman attitude)
Mad Max (ditto; antagonizing and strawmanning fanbase)
Magic the Gathering (muh moral panics)
Metallica (Lars Pencildick vs. Napster)
SimCity (muh always-online; antagonizing and strawmanning fanbase)
Spiderman (contractual obligation movies, wangstsploitation)
Star Trek (shit-tier reboots, cash-ins that would be enragingly Porky even if I wasn't a Trekkie)
Star Wars (all of the shit for Star Wars and also independent of the tinfoil-y polyp bitching about black people existing and therefore le cuck librul jooo agenda, the plot is shitawful and the aliens look like something from a Sci-Fi Original movie; games full of DRMalware)
Superman (oooh we're dark and angsty like the other superhero movies we all cherish, my fellow kids)
Terminator (cancerous sequels and reboots)
The Hobbit (one book stretched to goatse-length, muh 3D, muh gopros, eat a Hobbit asshole at Denny's)
The Jungle Book (one long uninteresting flubber sequence interspersed with Mikeeposting and other Patient-Zeros for about 5% of the people with deviantart-tier fetishes having those fetishes)
Warcraft (Why am I renting my game again? Why does that game amount to a second job?)
Warhammer (Age of Sigmar is a transparent, cancerous cash-in and looks a totally-unintentionally homoerotic Manowar album cover, yeah that's way the fuck better than 30 fucking RL years of living history and a badass setting that could be both tongue-in-cheek and serious instead of trying to be serious and winding up being a fucking joke)
Warhammer 40k (lawsuits over coin-sized fucking doors with skulls on them so they could keep charging $30 per pair of them; DRM cancer on DoW2)
Winnie the Pooh (Theme Park Version and spammed to oblivion)

from later than my childhood
Paradox games (fuck their DLCancer, fuck their pockets that are as hot as a stellar core, fuck their smarmy anti-filesharing commercials; antagonizing and strawmanning fanbase)
Total War series (DLCancer)

other
Kinda liked Garfield before I realized how phoned-in it was. I never liked Casper or Lost in Space but they somehow made them more cancerous with the remake. Furfaggotry isn't a franchise but I resent the company that was at the head of every attempt to kill fair use since from the E-lawyering of late 90s to SOPA-PIPA trying to pander to them for monis with Zootopia. Lovecraft attracts a lot of cancerous shit but I'm not sure how much of that is Porky's fault as directly as the above. Avoided RIFTS because they are said to DMCA fucking everything. Not a yu-gi-oh or pokemans fan but fuck their e-lawyering. Crappy Tree Friends went from shitty to shitty and preachy by collaboratiing with youtube's copyright education shit. Got Dead Space used, refused to have anything to do with it after seeing them selling increased reload time and ammo capacity as a DLC with no in-game explanation (at least Mass Effect gave you a new gun skin).

coming soon
Dad's Army remake will probably suck

Generally I handle it by not giving them money, using only the old/good shit from before they sold out, and talking shit whenever it comes up IRL or on Sri Lankan crocheting BBSes. Also I make and save copies of fan content (art, mods, 34, etc.).


thanks comrade, may check it out.

Isolation is fine. Though full of non-gamebraking bugs, in true CA fashion.
After 4 it's shit for me. Also, see how modability drops and DLC rise?

Streamlining to get "Bigger audience" is the cancer of our times.
Also,
Sorry.. I have to.. youtube.com/watch?v=CdV-tXxfJQE

Proof Capitalism isn't good, even if done right.


Just make sure you have time. It's HUGE.

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Have you played witcher 3 comrado?

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Those tropes pre-date capitalism by a few million years at least.


No, games like farmville are the very definition of addictive skinner-box grindfests. They're the gaming equivalent of opiates, except not as rewarding.

I think the post-structuralists have a word for whats happening to video games: Managerialism

You know what was shameless cash grab that relied solely on the popularity of the first movie? The second Ghostbusters movie.

You know what was a shameless cash brag that relied solely on the nostalgia of the first & second Ghostbusters movies? The various Ghostbusters cartoons.

Anyone who bitches about a Ghostbusters movie because it has females in it should really reassess their outlook on life.

It does look pretty bad though.

The black lady is almost out of a ministrel show. I feel a little uncomfortable watching her.

I really don't see it, she's just a black lady. I've seen worse examples of sassy black women not taking any shit.

Is it really going to worse than ANY of the other Ghostbusters products? Like the second movie?

Soviet covergirl was okay but Boris in YR was still better.
Bring on the MiG's.

It's not about "all female". It's about the movie being a shitty reproduction of the first movie.

Then new Doom is a reproduction of old Doom. And everyone is fine with it. (as far as single goes).

It's also a general problem with modern US being unable to create comedies and original ideas in general.


She's just not funny. … Non of them is…
And, am I the only one who thought the second movie was .. meh - ok?


Boris was awsome.

On the one hand, this is true. Ghostbusters was somewhat novel, but the franchise was an undeserved and endless shit smear from day 2, and this is just the latest in a shameful, stupid history of gimmicks that ghostbusters has used.

On the other hand, I feel like there are other, better places to fight sexism in Western society. It isn't like you have to go out looking for it, especially on the internet.

So…like the second movie and the cartoons?

I mean I thought the second movie was ok as well but come on, if people really want to complain about Ghostbusters getting raped they really should look at the relatively unfunny cash grabs that have been over the years. In this case, the second movie came out only a year later and was a retread of all the other shit in the first one.

It somehow made the dynamics between the characters flat, unfunny and lifeless, the only saving grace being Bill Murray. At least this new one seems somewhat creative. Dancing alien ghosts? I don't really know how funny each individual actress is but there isn't a lot of content in the trailer to make that judgment.

Certainly, but that doesn't mean that the objective quality of the movie is diminished because of this. if anything, MRA reaction to this movie is far, far more potent then the feminist one has been, so I barely view it as a dumb attempt at social progress.

Most hack cash grabs aren't things they dug up from 30 years ago, they're okay-at-best continuations of what's currently trending. Everyone forgets about the garbage and remembers the good one. What they're doing is like pissing on a grave and inviting people to watch.

valvesoftware.com/jobs/

The only half decent corporation, also happens to be structured horizontally. Pretty much the only series I can think of that hasn't been corrupted entirely by profit.

youtube.com/watch?v=pN1BWqIiAp4

That doesn't the phrase "this is gonna suck, they are raping the franchise" has any merit when you look at the history of Ghostbusters. Reboots suck, but they suck on their own merit, people aren't actually commenting this particular movie and whether its good on its own.

Exhibit A

To add to this, i'd say Bioware is slowly turning into Bethesda with all their lazy and repetitive game making, with much of popularity coming from major game magazines like IGN propping them up as THE FUTURE OF VIDEO GAMES AS WE KNOW IT

They both need to just give their games to Obsidian.

Are you serious? All they do now is idly rake in dough from obscenely expensive in-game cosmetics with a market based on artificial scarcity. It's Veblen economics!

That's why I said half decent. And those cosmetics don't effect gameplay; Valve is still making the best games.

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I dunno, I think they've begun to pander to the lowest common denominator to sell moar hatz. TF2 is now basically a retard fest for scrub Pyros and sticky spammers.

I would forgive all of it, every bit, if they stuck by their guns with the sticky nerf.

Also, they have basically abandoned Left 4 Dead 2 when literally all they need to keep it fresh is more maps and voice lines.

I thought the second Ghostbusters movie was kinda good, the characters were still mostly funny and the SFX were good even if it did rip the plot off one of the episodes of the original Star Trek. One of the cartoons was at least okay some episodes, though the animation was crap and iirc Slimer was annoying and overused. Both had the original characters, I'm pretty sure the second one had the same cast. The RPG was a cash-in but it was good enough that WEG based the D6 Star Wars RPGs and iirc the D6 System on it.

I don't object to wymyn being in a movie, I object to another franchise I love being the latest battleground between tumblrina and polyp idpol factions or another weapon for their shitting up my internets with that noise. I object to another fandom I'm part of becoming another wasteland for their unwinnable perpetual 1984 idpol war/game of grabass with each other, of having its creative energies turned to its own self-destruction instead of making great art and hawt 34. I object to media being judged on the color of the actors' skin or configuration of their genitals rather than the content of the movie and the talent or lack thereof or the cast. I object to one more social setting where expressing an opinion on a matter of personal taste can get me ostracized or make people think I'm part of the worst cancer of the alt-left or alt-right. I object to where one side scores a local victory and drives the other out, they make fandoms and sites even more of an uninhabitable shithole for the people who built it into something worthwhile and meaningful.

And I don't appreciate Gawker media, the Jenkem-Huffington Post, some other birdcage-liners and now you claiming I'm a dweller with ass burgers, soggy knees and no life for my crime of not immediately falling all over myself to fork over my money to see a bad movie, then defend it on internet forums. Just like when I thought Mass Effect 3 and SimCity were phoned-in DRM-ridden dogshit. Or when I didn't want to pay Microshaft 500 dollaridoos to turn my TV into a telescreen that could play rented vidya. It's funny how not giving an antagonistic, shit-talking supply side my money and openly mocking them on the internets makes me a bad person so consistently, isn't it?

encyclopediadramatica.se/Fembusters
This Dramatica entry details a bunch of shit I either can't be arsed to summarize (the corruption, intimidating the original actors into shilling, the youtube hotpocketry, the shamefully racist bullshit that went on with the production of both the original and the pre-se-re-bootmakequel, the fact that we're arguing about this might Sony's viral marketing going Just As Planned), and some shit I don't care about (((le eppan semitic wifi hotspot maymay)))

How's this then?

I think the movie looks like garbage all on its own.

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It's basically feminist propaganda.

It's a greater problem with hollywood being unable to produce comedies.
They're best comedy in latter years was Deadpool and it wasn't even meant to be.

Hollywood and the gaming industry are suffering from creative stagnation. They are too afraid to take risks. And thus, they survive with explosions, overmarketized mediocre sequels and reboots noone asked for.

And when all else fails, they'll fall back to the creation of controversy and divide and conquere.

There is no bad publicity. Everyone will watch the GB movie. Exactly because it's gonna suck.

They watched Transformers. They watched Ninja Turtles.. .. well .. now they made bait for "feminists" edgy teen grills that "revolt" against ze patriarkhy and they'll get that crowd watching BIG EXPROSION!

Idiocracy is happening.

So many things.

Magic the gathering meant so much to me. I hung on to the game as the cards became commodities as long as I could, but when I saw Planeswalkers become a thing, a very expensive thing, I had to get out. Fuck power creep and stop price gouging me.

I liked Starcraft, mostly because it was what me and my weeb friends would play. I didn't even try to play Starcraft 2. I was also big into DOTA, back when it was just a custom map on Warcraft III's Battle.net. Tons of custom games back then that the community made because they were just bored. Tower defense, Golems, it was fun, maybe just for the sole reason that they weren't handing it to you. I play League of Legends now and it's just a huge pain in the ass.

Game of Thones. This one is just me being petty. I can't tell you how much it meant to me reading this relatively unknown fantasy book in school around 2006. I was a geek in the days when being a geek wasn't cool at all. I can't wrap my head around what it would mean to be a geek in high school today. It meant everything to me to read a book about losers fighting to survive in a world that doesn't want them. Now they made a show about it and everyone loves it. Daenerys is not supposed to be that hot. Jon Snow is supposed to be lanky, dorky and have pimples. Everyone's a pornstar. I used to be into it for the whole underdog thing, now I'm into it because Bran's story is the only plotline worth knowing.

Lord of the Rings. Jesus Christ how they butchered this thing. It was cool, it was epic, it was geeky in a world that wasn't. Now they're making 3 whole fucking movies. I'm so disappointed. My subculture has been laid to waste by salesmen.

Deus Ex - You don't need me to tell you how perfect the first one was. The second one was really lame. I didn't bother checking out the third.

I used to believe that only losers were into Superhero Comics. I don't know why I thought that. Anime, Computer Skills, Fantasy Games, Comics and Science-y things all had an alliance together, and I believed it. It really makes me mad thinking about all of it. The commodification of it all swept me off my feet and I had to admit that capitalism didn't respect traditions and people, so I suppose now I don't wave the Geek flag and instead I wave the Anti-captialist flag.

On the other hand it forced me to find new cultures to relate to. I can now talk to black people about hip hop and I like Adventure Time and Steven Universe. But I know that capitalism's gonna come from them too and will milk as much as they can out of it, they'll never let a good story rest.

Who cares though? It's just cosmetics which effect literally nothing, they're still updating the game with maps and new weapons…


Because they're working on L4D3.

I'm not sure I can forgive Valve for the evil they've created. They had an extremely well-designed game in TF2, got people hooked on it, and then they used it as a lab rat for their micro-transaction experiments.

I'm not sure I can forgive anyone for this shit anymore. It's not some coincidence. The devs know exactly what they're doing.

"We're creating loyal customers!! :DDD"

TF2 is now a gambling addiction for kids. All of the money Valve wrings out of it goes straight into their new business plan, which is to recycle existing games into more cash cow skinnerbox experiments. Love is over.

When Steam became a thing, I refused to buy into it. My friends thought I was paranoid. Now their games are held hostage to their good behavior, and I'm playing my survivalist stash of old games and most of them have breddy gud replayability. It's not as comfy as I'd hoped, I feel bad for them, and for my inability to convince them not to put their benis in the meat grinder. And more people drinking Gaben's kool-aid means fewer people modding games that you can actually own.

Also, Deadpool was a low-budget passion project produced independently of Marvel. Speaking from a capitalist perspective, what Hollywood really needs right now is a studio that is the equivalent to what Sub-pop was in the late-80s and early 90s. It is time for glam to die again.

OP here. One can rip out the usual competitive spirit, as well as the skinnerbox, by creating an adventure game with puzzles. That would even be simple enough to solo-develop. But it wouldn't pack any oomph.

When attacking the grind, use satire. Mock the worst offenders in the skinnerbox line of spectacular products, starting with World of Warcraft. But to do JUST that, I don't really need mad coding skills or magical kickstarter funds. I could just doodle some more cartoons.

I'm not sure I can manage to earn the trust of good programmers unless I'm a hot shit programmer myself. That is, if I was crazy enough to even try and get them to comprehend my vaguely moralistic goals. And boy, do I feel like mocking the skinnerbox.

I am remarkably bad at this and I wish I wasn't.

All I hear is some bitchhing about competitveness and challenge being bad. Are you in the no-fun squad by chance?

The point, I believe, is that the hoarding of points and pretending to be a big winner saving the day can be a big load of horseshit.

You don't even need to study this in-depth. Sucks to be a gamer but most games really are just opium.

Look, the best part in New Vegas isn't upgrading your plasma caster. It's having to face a nice big moral dilemma at the end of certain quests, or laughing at the insanity of a situation. You can accomplish a great deal through writing, without needing little score meters and steam "achievements."

What we need is another financial crisis.

I'll give you another example.

State of Decay.

It's an absolutely mediocre game, that doesn't know what it want to be and got fucked by microsoft, but couldn't be done any other way.

So, eventually they deside to update it, to bring it to XBONE. So, they fix grafics bugs.. .. and do you get if free on PC? Nope! Almost free? NOPE! "Here have 20% off".

And the point is, did they add new quests? Did they improve the game? NOPE!

They gave you NEW GUNS! For a game that is about killing zombies without making noise.

It's corporate BS. "the players want to shoot stuff!" And that's how F4 is not an RPG and Bioshock Infinite is a shooting gallery, you just want to get on with to progress the story.

But companies like electronic arts are an example of why it pays for people to start their own business and develop exactly those games that you love. Without intellectual property and the ability to sell it, the reward of starting your own shit is hugely diminished and the best and brightest will be smart and not start their own shit and thus you wouldn't have had those games you loved.

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When will this meme end? Their games was and still are updated despite microtransactions.

I do not feel grateful for modern updates because they are manipulative experiments, preying on children with predictably little self-control.

The fact that Valve normally enjoyed a stellar reputation only made matters worse. That just allowed them to sneak up on you.

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How can people defend this man? He turned PC gaming into his own monopoly and pushed for DRM to become the standard

There are still people that defend him?

Paying for cosmetics is nothing new, Valve just did it better than everyone else. And what do you think is worse? Putting out a terrible game or a fantastic game with cosmetic microtransactions?

How many video companies would change/revert something due to popular demand?

Stockholm syndrome or something thereabouts. Like with any other poisoned relationship, they don't want to admit how bad it's got and hope it doesn't get worse.

I'd rather play a game where it's crap it's for some other reason than me being too broke to win a bidding war at one more thing in life. If a game is crap but fans are allowed to mod it, it has a chance of becoming good. And I don't have to throw more money down a hole to get shit that I got free a few years ago, all because some fat fuck waste of life wants more cocaine money and knows people will keep putting up with his shit as long as he keeps occasionally cockteasing them that he might make Half Life 3 someday.