Is pornography and prostitution compatible with socialism?

I recently decided to begin abstaining from both porn and masturbation with help from NoFap, and create & live a new, porn & wank-free lifestyle. While making online adjustments to help with my reboot, I recalled Chris Hedges' views on pornography and prostitution from his TruthDig columns, particularly these paragraphs:

m.truthdig.com/report/item/pornography_is_what_the_end_of_the_world_looks_like_20150215

The quotes are specifically about porn but probably apply to prostitution as well.

What's Holla Forums's take on this? Is porn and prostitution compatible with a post-capitalist, socialist society?

Here you go OP

I am struggling with this too
In one hand they don't want to ban porn in the other hand porn is a literal cancer that consume us in passivize us to the need for love real love

It is a capitalist trick to keep us from feeling that the system is tearing us apart , they even give to you for free as a stable form of social service
The fact that liberals defend porn is disgusting we need to replace porn with real post romantic movies where ppl learn how achieve love
That until capitalism end and we can have relationships as we like under communism

As always, lurk more, faggot.

chris hedge is an autist. his views on sexuality are pathetic and irrelevant.

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No need to ban it, some few individuals enjoy making it, but most do so out of economic necessity and so as such most would cease to exist in socialism.

I gave up watching porn a year or so ago, I fap to only my imagination now, and I gotta tell ya it's no different really, if anything it's better because there's no post-fap shame.

That's just you having been a teenager though, nothing to do with porn.

Is it just me or is there a big overlap between Evangelical Christians and sjw's, they all want to ban porn, hate sex, want to control how people act and think.
I once read an article comparing the idea of muh privilege to original sin.

Of course these sjw's would never admit they had anything in common whit Christianity.

oh also that no fap shit.

Now that i think more, old christian ideas have become pervasive in the secular world under new names and with bro science or political reasoning

I don't think so, honestly I think the shame came from knowing how exploitative and shitty the porn industry is. I'm in my mid-20s.

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of course not
mostly homemade and what little professional work is done would be done by art students and stuff.
Also there's enough porn ready for a lifetime.

we've had this thread way too many times.

All threads about porn or prostitution or pedophilia need to be fucking immediately deleted. This is getting out of hand.

user, your problem is that you've been making the mistake of fapping to actual people.

Indulging in sadism and depravity isn't quite the same when it's all faked for entertainment.

It's no different from the argument that violent video games make people more violent in real life. What it really does is give people an opportunity to channel otherwise antisocial feelings into a healthier medium that doesn't harm anyone. We're sapient beings that can control our behavior, but repressing feelings will only erode your mental health and make it harder to function. Denying this chemical release is what causes people to become fascists–they believe everyone but them and their closest peers are savage animals.

I mean, obviously porn actors are often harmed, but is this not just an egregious example of capitalist exploitation?

Also see

There isn't anything wrong with the concept of porn. It is disgusting how fresh face young porn stars are used and abused but it's hardly any worse then the kind of awful things done in general to people in the creative fields. Aspiring actors,musicians, writers,directors, video game designers and artists are treated like absolute shit. I don't know why people take some kind of special offense at porn. There's a problem with the entertainment Industry in general and there has been one for a long time. Never stops people from enjoying other forms of media but with porn suddenly it's a huge deal. I guess western society may never escape it's prudish Christian roots.

Probably the best argument for 2D/3D-animated porn I've ever seen.
Never even really considered this before, good job comrade.

pornography as a form of "art"? I'm not sure, I guess other people know more about that.
Prostitution? No. Why would you want to sell your body when there is no money anymore to sell your body for? It doesn't make sense.

Sexual favours for services or commodities?

The exploitation of people in need of money is obviously wrong, but theres plenty of people who are exhibitionists or make drawn or rendered porn.

Just look at a subreddit like /r/gonewild. They don't do it for money, so there is really nothing wrong with it.

this guy needs to commit suicide

op are you actually taking this article seriously?

I oppose this false notion

Prostitution is a decadent product of our society, a cancer we must erradicate with violence if necessary. And dont get me wrong, im not talking about prostitues, since these women are the first victims of prostitution, im talking about the pimps and the clients, they must be our objectives.

Engels is the key to understand the relation between capitalism and prostitution. I cannot reccomend 'On thr Origins…' enough, its an entry level Marxism book that will give you a good perspective on issues such as the family, the women struggle and histotical materialism.

What is wrong with decadence?

In the UK there are sex workers' unions that call for full legalization and stand on a left-wing basis, arguing as said in that if proper economic livelihoods or support was available to these women, most wouldn't do it in the first place. A sex worker from one of these unions spoke at a public meeting I went to a while back and said around 60% of sex workers are single mothers, often of pre-school age children and unable to afford childcare so take customers by night. Many are also illegal immigrants unable to claim any benefits or welfare payment.

there is no exchange in communism.

Its pure bourgoise behaviour, its a waste of resources in indulgent shit. Its the subproduct of a society that glorifies hoarding and excessive expending.

lmao

Read this.

NoFap is a fucking cult.

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I think you need to read marx again

Mormon-tier pseudo science peddled to repressed burgers like yourself

Well user, refraining from fap for a few days does make it more sensitive and helps you build up excess semen.

Well duh, but we both know that is not what NoFap is about.

You should stop pretending you know how to read first.

Unless the bullet factory is producing without any labour, then clearly its not true that people are taking but not giving back. People can only take what has been produced. Taking but not giving is only possible if others are giving. It is impossible to have a situation in which everyone takes and nobody gives, because there is nothing to take in the first place if nobody is giving

There used to be a fucking great debunking meta-post screenshot of the entire NoFap shit.

Anybody got it?

Holla Forums specific porn

This is why Holla Forums are, and will continue to be failures.

prostitution is, in its essence, when you take away all the ethical concerns, is a trade of services for resources.
In a purely socialist state it could not exist.

Nofap is a fucking religion, infecting gullible idiots with a spook.

Having orgasms is not sapping you of your mystical powers. Please, if you believe in Nofap, you're a sucker.

If you have something to go do in life, go fucking do it. If you feel like you dont' feel motivated enough to do something, then spend your mental energy hyping yourself up to do that *specific* thing. If fapping makes you tired, then do it before you go to bed.

Srsly.

Having self control and wasting your self control on a bullshit are two different things.

Having self control when it comes to things which matter is good. Resisting the temptation to eat a second helping of cake is good because it helps you stay healthy. Motivating yourself to get up early every day and study is good because it's self-improvement.

No-fap is pure bullshit though. It's like having the self control to avoid stepping on the cracks in the sidewalk or remembering to sacrifice a goat to the sun god every day. It's a futile, unscientific waste of time and energy.

That's Holla Forums, fam.

Sauce of the background porn manga? Don't tell me it's that hairy armpit milf author.

porn is disgusting bourgeois garbage

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