POTHEADS ON SUICIDE WATCH

POT PROVEN SOCIAL AND CULTURAL DISASTER

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It takes a 20-year study to come to the conclusion that using a substance that dulls your brain has long-term drawbacks

Anyone who has ever socialised with a pothead, knows pot is bad for you, but okay.

I'm glad. I've been hearing pretty ridiculous claims said it loud lately, it borders on "gays ate not predatory lyrics child fuckers" levels of stupidity.

Joe Rogan, like the podcast for the occasional guest, but his fans are largely pot heads and listen to him too much I fear. He was going on about how pot cures cancer the other day, while smoking a pipe.


Another one is


Simply ebin.

The five others become retarded and can't stop talking about it. "Duuude lool look I smoke weed"

Literally ruined my life and I'll never be the same mentally

lmao

This is so obvious you'd have to be an addict not to see it. Every single friend I have who was smoking pot as a teen has grown up to struggle with addiction.

Two friends have struggled to quite like cigarettes, two others are full-blown addicts.

I've seen them scrap the bottom of old jars and pick the stuff up from between keyboard keys to make a tenth of a joint.

One smokes to "stimulate" creativity, the other to suppress anger.

Smoking pot pure once a week was the greatest thing that ever happened to me, but that was because of the healthy attitude that I went into it with. I was seeking a permanent cure from my horrendous depression.

Once a week for six months, alone, meditating. It worked, but not in the way I expected.

We've forgotten how to use plants properly.

How did pot ruin your life?

I think if you abuse something it's bad, I have definitely indulged in excess in other things too.

It really depends on one's chemistry and attitude towards substances.

Moderation is key fam, make good decisions.

Great. Now if only we could treat tobacco and alcohol the same we treat pot.

These threads on weedand christianity really bring out features reminiscent. For a people who claim to be so
aware of trained emotional reactions to cues in normies, you certainly don't see it in yourselves.

Yet human brains have receptors that evolved specifically to take in THC and CBDs.

Yet sensimellia is mentioned in the book of enoch.

24.3 And there was a seventh mountain, in the middle of these, and in their
height they were all like the seat of a throne and fragrant trees surrounded
it.
24.4 And there was among them a tree such as which I have never smelt,
and none of them, or any others, were like it. It smells more fragrant than
any fragrance, and its leaves, and its flowers, and its wood never wither. Its
fruit is good, and its fruit is like bunches of dates on a palm.
24.5 And then I said: "Behold, this beautiful tree! Beautiful to look at, and
pleasant are its leaves, and its fruit very delightful in appearance."
24.6 And then Michael, one of the Holy and Honoured Angels, who was
with me, and was in charge of them,
25.1 answered me and said to me: “Enoch, why do you ask me about the
fragrance of this tree, and why do you inquire to learn?”
25.2 Then I, Enoch, answered him saying: “I wish to learn about
everything, but especially about this tree.”
25.3 And he answered me, saying: “This high mountain, which you saw,
whose summit is like the Throne of the Lord, is the throne where the Holy
and Great One, the Lord of Glory, the Eternal King, will sit, when he
comes down to visit the Earth for good.
25.4 And this beautiful and fragrant tree, and no creature of flesh has
authority to touch it until the great judgment, when he will take vengeance
on all and bring everything to a consummation forever, this will be given to
the righteous and the humble.
25.5 From its fruit, life will be given to the chosen; towards the north it will
be planted, in a Holy place, by the house of the Lord, the Eternal King.
25.6 Then they will rejoice with joy and be glad in the Holy place. They
will each draw the fragrance of it into their bones, and they will live a long
life on earth, as your fathers lived. And in their days sorrow and pain, and
toil and punishment, will not touch them.”
25.7 Then I blessed the Lord of Glory, the Eternal King, because he has
prepared such things for righteous men, and has created such things, and
said that they are to be given to them.

But note it is mentioned it's held for the day of judgement and for those of righteousness. We may see a modern jewish imposter nowadays, infused with chemicals to dull sensory perceptions and lower resistance.

Abuse yes. Started smoking in middle teens with friends on the weekends and progressed to smoking more and more often all the while I fell behind and school and even felt stupider, eventually I lost my social ability and developed psychosis. I don't smoke now but I won't recover.

But I agree with you moderation is key. I should have listened.

Likewise, took it up in my formative years and can tell I had a lot more going on upstairs before it. My parents met in MENSA and I did get their brains, but I went and fucked it up by trying to fit in will sub90IQ retards smoking half ounces a day between three people when I was at the height of my abuse.

Like looking in a mirror.

I never touch the stuff because I've got a heavy allergy to it, but even if I didn't, I wouldn't go near it. I've seen (and smelled) enough pot-heads to know a (((goyim trap))) when I see it.

this tbh, lost quite a few brain-cells and wasted my 19-22 years of my life doing fuck all but smoking and going to school, could have made gains or spent the money in something other than just smoking it up

I could easily respond by saying you're using something as an excuse for you own inability to moderate intake of products and inability to have willpower to accomplish things you wish. Which is also the reason why you were predisposed towards abusing a product and then blaming it for your mental faculties.

Of course I'd just be lying if I mentioned that, though.

that's not a thing
he probably smoked some that was laced with something and it fucked him up that way

Was in the same boat as you. Getting out for me was


All these are not possible for everyone but I would say they are in order of the most important. And I used to smoke heavy as fuck. Now I don't even like beer all that much because even my taste buds have changed away from all that oversweet beer and weed crap.

Oh look the idf sent in a drug apologist. That didn't take long.

This. But its nice having a real study to use as source, because potheads always use "DATS JUST LIKE YOUR OPINION MAN, SCIENTISTS DONT AGREE!", now however, they do.

Could you give more details on your diet? I'd like to do some changes in mine and don't know where to start.

I smoke, and I constantly tell others that it is indeed addictive as hell.
I knew this years ago before being redpilled, friends of mine would go on and on about how it's a wonder-drug with no addictive properties, I told them they were deluding themselves and they would get angry, taking it as a personal insult.

The fact is that there is no extra 'addictive' quality that is found in supposedly 'addictive' drugs.
It's as simple as this: cannabis leads to a release of endorphins, and so the brain will naturally seek out that high again. Same principle as why sex or chocolate can be addictive.

one day you'll look back at how much money you smoked up and all that worthless thinking you tried to attach to your dependence on some plant will bring you nothing but shame. I'd rather spend my spare change on real estate or a better car or some guns or a gym membership than smoking it up so I can masterbate intellectually with a bunch of faggots who say like in between every word

I don't spent money on marijuana or derivative products. I can spot someone using an excuse for their own faculties very readily, though, and it's typically ex-smokers who pretend their new life without the smoke is better, going from one crutch to another in their feeble attempt to be contrarian.

filtered

You wouldn't be lying at all. Even before I got into pot I had an addictive personality and rather lazy tendencies, that doesn't change the fact that it certainly had a pretty big fucking hand in messing with my brain at a critical point in development and essentially making me a high functioning retard with a 105IQ when I was tested to have 140-155IQ repeatedly through childhood.

Wow who would have guessed it.

You're a fucking idiot

Allfucking right it's about Goddam time I posted the damn book. Just in case I get way laid again here is the cover:

Wheat Belly Total Health

Dr. William Davis

Guy took on the research task of figuring out why we got so much healthier when we dropped wheat, blew open a whole field of dietary research I would call "grain-free health."

If abused as hard as I did from lower teens until mid 20s you can bet your ass it will fuck with your IQ.

I personally think pot isn't the boogeyman that it is typically made out to be around here but it should absolutely stay out of the hands of people until they are past puberty.

Thanks, i'll check it out.

Thanks man. You do help show that being an addict shows weak mental faculties from the onset.


So, there you go. You have no willpower and an addictive personality likely inherited from your parents, which they were intelligent and/or had enough willpower to not fall into.

Since this triggers the potheads-turn-contrarian-meme-of-the-week braindead faggots; I'll help: marijuana abuse is an indicator of other mental problems and weakness in willpower. Marijuana can enforce this cycle of laziness, but you will not fall into it if you're not predisposed to it.

I used to snoop dog that shit up during my critical developmental years, and yet here I am, business owner with papers processed to buy my farm next week at 23. Stop using x as an excuse for your own inability to buckle down and be an adult. I have evidence that shows humanity has THC and CBD detectors in the brain set to capture these particles, along with scripture reference to fragrant flowers being taken into the bones of the righteous after the day of judgement. you cannot tell me marijuana is not a godly plant. But shills will also ignore this caveat:

OH MY GOD THE DAILY MAIL

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Kek yeah I know what you mean. Not to sound pretentious but I did notice how dim all the smoker types seemed I guess I was being willfully ignorant ignoring that and should have took it as a warning.

Lads…

There are many studies showing that heavy use in teens does as said

And it's just anecdotal but everyone who has admitted to heavy smoking at a young age also has said it fucked their head up ITT

why so many slide threads today?

I work at a pot shop and help countless veterans who struggle with massive pain and PTSD.

You faggots are so gullible. Have you considered the possibility that people were already retarded before smoking pot? Or the fact one of the world's greatest Astro-physicists and intellectual minds wrote an entire book on it's benefits.

I don't get how this board is pro-nazi and doesn't even realize that the Aryan race cultivated pot and used it as a transcendental meditation enchancer to increase their levels of Vril.

Jews own big pharma and the paper industry that originally shut down pot.

Enchance your inner Vril and take a hit, you pussies. A thinking man is never a slave.

All you really need to know about marijuana is that it can turn you into a murderer for hire.

How early did you start? I've been smoking (a lot)from 17 to 25 and haven't had any loss in IQ. Definitely damaged my motivation and the reward pathways in my brain but not intelligence.
I've heard that starting too early can lead to a drop in IQ but I've never met anyone who happened to measure it before/after

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dumbass pothead

M8…. come on now

Nah for most people if they have any level of agency they can handle alcohol just fine.

if you smoke the pot you win

I've been smoking on a daily basis for over 10 years.

Call me degenerate, idgaf

I don't pretend it's completely harmless, but I always laugh when Holla Forums gets their panties bunched up about it (and those posters usually have no clue what they are talking about). I've been on Holla Forums for many years. Drugs, especially weed, is one topic I never agree with the board on.

So this bowl I'm about to spark is for you Holla Forums. Maybe one day you'll learn that you can benefit from altered states. Drugs should always be taken responsibly and in moderation, I've learned a lot about myself and often go on reading sprees when I'm high because it unlocks curiosity within. No, I don't need it to have curiosity and inspiration, I'm just saying it can be a tool to help with it.

Blaze it faggots.

Anyone have a direct link to the study? I'd like to know how heavily/frequently the users were using.

I'm not trying to be the "dude weed lmao. It's just a plant, bro" guy, obviously regularly ingesting any substance that alters your brain chemistry is going to cause addiction, dependence and a host of negative effects, but it still seems like weed isn't as bad as alcohol. Speaking of which, it would be interesting to know if they controlled for alcohol use, most of the major stoners I have known have ended up becoming frequent binge drinkers aswell.

To reiterate, no, I'm not saying weed is harmless.

I know im gonna get called addict or whatever, but its literally the only degenerate thing i do.

Also:


Filthy short-term planners.

12 or so, I went to very multicultural schools because my mother was one of the most left leaning people on the planet

Thinks that 20% THC weed is stronger than 50% THC hash that has existed for thousands of years.

Clueless weed noob and chemistry dunce who doesn't think before typing.

Fuck off, kike.

Yeah, every time I tell that story some dopemonkey comes scuttling out to say that, so I checked with my friend a few years back to make sure. It was nothing but weed. Chain-smoked himself into retardation.

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Not even him, but that is not a thing. That comes mostly from research chemical abuse.

I suspect that chronic, long term use of cannabis might have negative consequences but have you ever had sex while stoned? Sheeeeit!!!! It's one of the most pleasurable things I've ever experienced. Even if it's bad for you, it's worth using it just for that occasion. Of course, I'm talking about heterosexual intercourse occurring in a lifelong relationship with the purpose of creating white children - I'm not a degenerate!

I'm pro-cannabis (though not necessarily pro-legalization) and even I noticed that it has weird affects on schizofrenia. My roommate would always go on these long rants whenever he would smoke, it was honestly worrying.

You can vaporize weed which avoids combustion altogether.

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I think your passage from Enoch is alluding to the tree of life from Genesis.

yeah you are totally "aryan" selling drugs to veterans bro

It's the truth though. Mad Arab mystics drugged their followers with hashish to do their bidding, turning them into Hashashins.

Well It does. I smoke once a week, and have for 20+ years.

I cough alot, my doctor says its some sort of chronic inflammatory disease.

Surprise, surprise, combustion of material for the purpose of inhalation is going to damage you.

Still miles less dangerous than other drugs or booze/cigs health wise.

But yeah, the only ways to consume cannabis safely is vaping and edibles (although mothers come out of the woodwork on those screaming for the children with depressing regularity.)

Would you prefer that a veteran smoked weed or took SSRIs?

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Frankenstein was the fucking doctor, not the monster. And no, he didn't mean 'monster' in a metaphoric sense. This shit makes me REEEE.

No need to be skeptical since I'm sure there aren't any other studies that refute these rather loosely-worded claims that appear highly context-dependent.

Half of these claims probably apply to sugar consumption but nobody's going to go ape over that.

We have a 95% success rate of transitioning stage 3 cancer patients into remission. What do you do for society?

Holla Forums is contrarian to nearly everything normalfags beleive, which we should be, thus many posters have the knee jerk reaction to reject the possibility of anything mainstream being correct. Fags do need to stop with the "it's just an herb, man" shit though.

agreed.
I never would have gotten redpilled if it wasn't for smoking, weed led me to shitposting on Holla Forums only to actually start reading and becoming engaged during holohoax dumps and happening threads.

while there are many downsides to the habitual use I myself partake in, without pot i never would have found Kek.

Can we agree weed probably isnt "good" for you, but that it is probably the least harmful drug?


/r/ing pic of who needs friends with hitler and a bag of weed?

Weed helped me break out of a negative spiral I was in. I also had a lot of fun when I smoked with friends. It changed my life, and I stopped when I needed to get serious for work. People that binge on weed and become stoner dudes are ever present and if they weren't potheads would just be fatasses by binging on food.

If stoners didnt have a supply they would be addicted to something else.

You have some evidence of 50% THC hash used by genuine Aryans?

I've never heard of such things.

Hash is a by-product of cannabis cultivation. It sticks to your hands and you roll it into a ball.

In fact, considering hemp was far more common than potent cannabis for most of history we can surmise that hashish probably came first, as it would have built up on yhe hands during hemp production.

I was led to Holla Forums by fucking MLP. Bad things can lead to good things.

DUDE WEED LMAO THO

In the current cultural climate, I am hand-on-heart surprised this even got through.

And having said that, it's perfectly fine to have proof no matter how common sense the conclusion is. The fact that you have proof typically gives you power in a discussion. That's how it used to be, anyway. It's dubious how much weight it has when you're surrounded by cucks.

Mods will delete this thread in 10 minutes, calling it "D&C" because differing views might be expressed in it. Oh well.

Knew this before the study. I've seen enough cases.

dude weed lmao

Who on earth didn't notice it's addictive? I'm still not sure how much worse than alcohol it is, but a nontrivial number of acquaintances can't hold jobs anymore because of the harmless "basically like broccoli"

everything in excess is bad for you, even water. weed can not be a crutch, lest we become degenerate. but as a tool, cannabis can have many benefits.

it's meant to make you go REEEEEE

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I hope no one on Holla Forums is still drinking the high fructose corn syrup Jew.

sounds like total bullshit

Ill tell you my friend, we have HAD this discussion.

And I mean HAD.

Anyone creating a common topic that has been overdoen to hell and back should be i.p. range banned.

This is a two year old article. Fuck off.

I started smoking at 26 which was 6 years ago and regularly break from it regardless of money, people abuse shit, in other news water is wet and teenagers that are everyday smokers are fucking retarded and know its bad for their development yet still persist so no sympathy for any long term effects for them

You wanna talk about addictive shit, lets talk about fucking high fructose corn syrup.

I guess now the people saying is alright to smoke the herbal jew will shut up.

Where can I read the study?

What the fuck are you trying to imply with that shitty post?
I'm not saying it's not addictive.

Those receptors aren't "specifically" made to be able to take in THC/CBD. Those receptors are there to be activated by the natural endocannabinoid system in your body. That THC and other cannabinoids fit into these receptors and activate them doesn't mean they were evolved "specifically' for THC you fucking moron.

That's like saying your mu-opioid receptors were specifically made for diacetylmorphine (heroin you stupid fuck) and therefore heroin is good and natural

I think drug threads (or other common topics) are fine to have a few times a year. People who don't come on as much might not've seen the previous one, and if you're lucky you can get new arguments in a new thread. On that note, I've been away for a bit, maybe we've had a number of them recently, but I haven't seen one for a couple months.

This one also has a study, which is a bit more substantial than just starting a topic with a pot leaf and the body: "drugs? character limit character limit character limit character limit character limit", which is perhaps ban-worthy.

Also, nice sage?

How is this new news again? We can make the same article about alcohol. Nothing like cherrypicking since we still need a reason for the DEA and weed dealers are lowing hanging fruit to them. It's just another part of the government trying to remind the normalfags they are still needed and need money.

Morphine is also good for dealing with pain. Should we advocate recreational morphine use faggot?

Started when I was 19 because I didn't want to do anything to hurt myself when I was young and forming, least of all develop an addiction. Have smoked for 3+ years. If anything it helped increase my intelligence and well being, I would also read more, clean more, work out more, and in general do things to improve myself, hell when I was stoned I would sit down and play Starcraft II for like 6 hours and it got me to Grandmaster MMR, it had the opposite effect of reducing motivation for me. I didn't feel nervous all the time and didn't obsess on my own short comings and instead decided to actually work on them.

It's almost like every drug effects people differently. Or maybe because I'm part native and smokum peace pipe is part of gene's now.

It's the dipshits who smoked when they were 12 smoked all fucking day like an alcoholic on a binge, and didn't stop for 10 years that fucked themselves. What substance won't hurt you during your formative years? Replace alcohol with liquor and you're gonna see a literal degenerate moron.

Also, I've never experienced addiction for pot while I smoked for 3+ years I take breaks every 6 months or so for about 2 months to lower my tolerance, never really had a constant urge to get any, or even buy it if I didn't have the money. I wanted to smoke weed, mostly just so I could relax after a difficult day or had a day off and was bored out of my mind and had no motivation, and couldn't concentrate, knowing weed would help.

Cigarettes on the other hand are cancer in every form, I decided to try smoking for 6 months to see if I had the will to break addiction, every day I wanted to go buy a pack and smoke. It was a gnawing feeling, but I did quit. Weed was more like an absence of fun and focus. I never felt a compulsive urge to go out and do it.

Isn't that keif?

Hash is less a byproduct and more a product itself, made through processing the material, to my knowledge.

And none of what you said is evidence to the effect requested, you just added more materials requiring citation of some sort tbh fam.

There's the primary problem. Believing that a substance is harmless will lead to abuse.

Weed is definitely addictive and makes you retarded but I don't think it makes you have mental health issues other than plain old stupidity. Most of those mental illnesses aren't real and exist for jews to sell mind-control drugs.
MK Ultra never ended, half the population gets the kike pills, the other half dopes themselves with pot and other illicit and dubious substances.

I don't think you can equate treatments with salves

You're just a lazy piece of shit making excuses like every lazy liar ever.

And I would tell anyone who wants to inhale anything to use a vaporizer of some sort. The ones that use glycol-based liquids are better because the hair-dryer style still depends on degrading the material by heat rather than true vapor.

Still, we are talking about mental effects too. We're getting raided by shills who are yelling "pot no down my iq faggit" when the reality is no ethics board will allow a scientist to put subjects, much less minors, through chronic abuse of a drug like that. So the data will always be a bit wonky. But if pol has taught anything to me it's that the conservative mindset is valuable precisely for what it teaches me to avoid, like unproven things that I have ever my own anecdotal evidence against.

Lastly, lots of people understate how much they smoke, and lots of people also smoke on even when they could vape. Just watching the Rogan podcast hell sit there and smoke five bowls with a vape sitting right in front of him. The childish Pyro obsession is still real and somewhat controlling unfortunately.

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What is this guy's eyecolor???? Not brown but not green.

I'm talking about vaping cannabis with a volcano, not your faggy pen vapes. That shit is mega aids for you.

I smoked pot regularly for two years, I am the type to obsess over his IQ and take weekly tests.
When I got off the weed I had gone from high 120s to 111.
And vaping weed is fucking sketchy, I have had vaporizers explode on me and still have the first and only bong I used and still occasionally hit pipe tobacco out of it for the head-rush.

There's an enormous difference between watered down beer used to sterilize drinking water, or wine used in religious ceremonies, vs simply getting drunk and being a degenerate. The latter is modern and has no claim to European heritage.

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Jokes on you I never paid for my weed as my friend was a dealer and insisted on smoking me out for free. Any other canards, cuck?

Fuck off, idiot. People should make the right decisions and not ruin their lives with drugs. However, something in our society is making people gravitate towards pot use. Banning pot or any other drug won't fix that.

Can confirm from experince. still cant give it up 100%

The high is technically called marijuana psychosis for a reason.

You know that feeling you get when you smoke and you listen to a 3 minute song and the shit feels like it's an hour long

yeah. that aint normal

You'd have to be an idiot that smokes way to much weed to deny this

can confrim from experince again

but dude medicine and shiet it like helps people with cancer sometimes like it doesnt actually fix the cancer though it just give chemotherapy patients more appetite to eat so like it must be like good for me to somehow like dude weed

So says the totally objective organization that is funded jointly by the liquor industry and big pharma. Shill harder, faggot.

But time is illusory.

wew
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Like everything else, the brain is use it or lose it. If you dull your senses and your thinking with pot, or alcohol or what have you, you will eventually, yes, lose your capacity to think well.

So we are getting a lesson from a low-agency fag that can't give it up?

I build houses, I don't sell drugs and dress it up as medicine like a white nigger

I did my best programming high. It helped me approach problems in different ways. I don't need to smoke, but it's not just hedonistic.

when zog comes to kick your door in, do you want to be high as fuck with slow ass reflexes or on point and ready to dump an ak drum?

i dont care about people who smoke weed on special occasions like camping or vacation but smoking every day is degenerate.

a 3 minute song is objectively 3 minutes long.
If time were an illusion the same exact song would not last the same eaxt time span. everytime you play it.

it's called being high and forgeting basic shit that's inherent in every human that isnt normal or you to foget. what normal functioning brain can keep track of the pssage of time?

a stupid fried stoner brain

Bet you can't even rack a wall dipshit

I assume most people who smoke this that post here treat it like beer or wine. No shit your driving is impaired while under the influence, meanwhile breathing underwater tends to get people killed. We should ban pools.

Agreed 100%.

Do you not know what time dilation is?

Do any of you faggots realize that this article is two years old??

I enjoy weed many times over beer and certainly more than wine. I don't have to feel alcohol pounding my liver's asshole and can wake up feeling refreshed. Drinking anything at all makes me sleep like shit, guaranteed. That means my next day sucks cock and I'm hugging my coffee machine.

i'm not in denial about what i do like stoner degernates who are proud of their degeneracy


no shut the fuck up

grow up kid

I'm saying if you can't give it up don't blame the weed, blame yourself you low energy cuck.

Rubbish.

(((Prohibition))) never works.

just shut up
two stoners arent getting high in a air plane travelling in diferent directions.

this is your brain on weed

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You are seriously one of the biggest faggots I've ever seen on pol

I knew this thread was going to be a gold mine of weedfags rage-quitting Holla Forums because they can't handle it when their degenerate habits get called into question but they have no problem shitting on others

Do me a favor. Go lace up some shoes and go on a hard 10 minute run without stopping. Then when you get back and watch ten minutes worth of videos or anime you enjoy. Tell me, which one feels longer?

sauce?
I'm aware of ancient ayyyrans and bhang, but i'm curios as to where you get the idea that it boosts vril.

whoa dude so trippy

How could I be "making excuses" for having psychosis? My personality changed forever from smoking, it's no fucking joke. You know what yeah I was probably lazy in my teens, but that doesn't change the fact how much smoking then fucked me up permanently.

its some we wuz kangs melanin iz majik tier shit lad

Jews also probably own that pot shop you work in.
I used to brew hash and the only fucks that would even consider buying it from me(vendor in medi. state, not street dealer) were grubby yids.
Most shops are owned by either kikes, spics, niggers, or flips, muh aryan race smoking pot my ass.
also:

some anecdotal evidence for you all:


When I quit weed:


I think weed is the perfect source for liberals to convert people on the right to become like them. It destroys brain cells, makes them think like animals and generally destroys all logic.

That being said, people who use weed liberally and on occasion might benefit from it by escaping reality. Those who turn weed into a "culture" should be fucking deported.

I agree with this guy. The big pharma kikes are a cancer to this world.

THIS IS HOW RETARDED YOU SOUND WHEN YOU ARE DRINK ALCOHOL

And that shit is legal. I'd rather have everyone smoking weed starting at age 5yo than anyone getting drunk on alcohol EVER.

Stay drunk, Moshe.

Oh look another Holla Forums nigger migrated over again. Don't you have some advertisers you need to be emailing?

Everyone I know who smoked pot regularly is a multi-cultural oversimplified wigger.

He's thinking about Khat, and even then he's a retard.

And those very same kikes are shoving their grubby yid-tentacles into the pot industry now that we're trying to legalize and promote it.
Decriminalize and make socially unacceptable is only option.

Do you think it's likely those people would have been that way without weed too? That's what we're saying.

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exactly this. If your responsabiel with it and not getting high multiple times a day and creating a 'dude weed' culture around it its fine. Everything in moderation

*responsible

The article is bullshit OP, kill yourself.

I don't have a problem with weed per se, but I absolutely fucking detest weed culture and stoners and all that bullshit.

I've smoked weed a small handful of times in my life, and I don't have a problem with someone trying it out or using it every once in a while. But I absolutely have a problem with the people that smoke weed on a regular basis. Especially the ones whose whole lives revolve around the herbal jew.

Of course, I could expand my thinking towards other substances as well. For example, I don't have a problem with social drinking. I don't have a problem with people getting trashed on infrqeuent special occasions. But the ones who act like fratbros, whose lives revolve around getting shitfaced every day of the week? The degenerate alcoholics? Into the trash they go.

To the pot naysayers, I invite you to try watching American Psycho high. It's an amazing experience. Whether it was true or not I felt like I understood scenes in ways I didn't when I watched the movie sober.

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This.

Nice strawman

So it took them this long to provide a study for this?

I've seen too many intelligent souls and geniuses in my life who could of been something great but touch the stuff and become uncaring losers, all their potential just sapped away. It's like watching the spirit of someone die off, but their shell still lives without them. Too many good minds of our generations have gone because of the stuff.

Video related.

I just finished a French course, where we had a rasta classmate. Bigass dreadlocks, talks openly about ganja, you know the type. Guess what, the pothead had the best grades of the whole class, also studied Greek, and was getting a PhD in literature or something like that.

Only because you got double Dubs

Sounds like a starbucks barista in the making

Alright, so I've been lurking for about a year or two and throughout this period of time I've seen user rip those who enjoy smoking. Potheads are literally worthless retards, but they're retards before they start smoking.


People who are idiots are much more likely to take risks than the more reserved individual. I didn't start smokin until around 17, when I "gave up" on my life due to my white trash circumstances at home and abuse from my father. Through smoking I started reflecting much more often, went from D's in algebra to A's in calculus in 1 year's time. I excelled to the top of my class senior year. I started working out on a regular basis, eating foods that are healthy for my development and and branching out to my community. I became very interested in electrical engineering and had a 4.0GPA until I dropped out from the constant abuse, relationship problems (after smoking I started to respect women as individuals more, and stopped crying about faggot shit and how they favor cock over static companionship) and injuries with my leg from when I was a child. I'm still trying to gather money to go back, but being white trash is hard. To be honest, I don't know if I ever would have developed into the man I am today without it. Then again, I'm an introvert and much smarter than most of my peers. Anyway, I'm working and shouldn't even be spending time typing this up.

Tl;dr: if you're 17+, not an extroverted mouth-breather, can use critical thinking and understand even the lightest discipline, pot can help you reflect and step out of the situation and see things behind the thin veil of muh feels.

So pot brings more people in danger than guns (car crashes alone)

We don't have Starbucks in this country, I believe.

Yeah, me and my mates have been smoking at least once every couple of months for the past 5 years. I don't know if it's the weed but I know that after I smoked my first few joints, my overall approach towards life became slightly more relaxed (not in a lazy, nihilistic way), I started to enjoy life a lot more and my social anxiety calmed down massively. I started to make eye contact with strangers, I began to work out often and I began to read more often. Occurred around about the same time I began to lurk on Holla Forums so I don't know which one caused my life to improve but I would say its likely that both contributed.

I think that weed isn't really different to alcohol, if anything weed is less harmful than alcohol (compare potheads to alcoholics). Obviously its unhealthy to drink a bottle of wine every day and its unhealthy to smoke a joint every day, but when taken in moderation (once a month) the health effects are reduced and mostly short-term. Its hypocritical to not mind people drinking a couple beers in a pub at the weekends but then think its outrageous when people smoke a couple joints socially at the weekend.

I know a few people who smoked weed every single day and it has fucked with their brain, but to be honest they were the same people who started smoking tobacco when they were 13 and generally have addictive/abusive personalities.

If you've got a healthy mind and the willpower to avoid addiction, smoking weed is just something you can do occasionally to relax while doing something else like reading or working out or listening to music

TL;DR - Weed shouldn't be abused nor should alcohol be abused, there are different people who smoke and for weak minds it can fuck them up but for strong minds like me and many other people it can be used to relax, enhance other hobbies and spend time socially with friends. Addiction is a choice at the end of the day. You can always just stop smoking weed just like you can stop eating chocolate.

sauce?

This guy bothered to write up what should be obvious.

I quit smoking weed cold turkey no problem but god help me I cannot control myself if there's Nutella in my house.

So basically your approach was better because you used it as a tool to help you confront your problem instead of a drug to suppress your problem but let it continue to fester.

It's called Hazel user. It's green with some brown pigmentation mixed in.

This

I reckon if you ate a tub of nutella every single day you'd probably end up like a fat fuck needing heart surgery, just like if you smoked 5 grams every day you'd end up with a brain like a fried egg. Retards and cowards are the people who get addicted to anything.

Gun homicide: 3.5/100k en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

Accident fatalities: 10.6/100k en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

According to op weed doubles risk of crashing a car. So if the same percentage of people who own guns started smoking weed. (50%). The accident rate will rise up to: 0.5*10.6+21.2*0.5=15.9. So that's a 5.3 increase. 5.3>3.5. So pot usage at the magnitude of gun usage is more dangerous than gun usage.

DUDE IT'S JUST A PLANT

Discussing drugs on Holla Forums is an exercise in futility. Too many hardcore NEETs here with no understanding of the real world. Take OP for instance.

That sounds about right for all pleasant things. I'd say more than 1/6 people become addicted to vidya or alcohol. That's not specific to weed, that's just a human weakness thing.

No, it doesn't. It makes them appear earlier in people that were already predisposed to them. This is true for all psychoactive drugs, even caffeine. It doesn't cause these issues, it just triggers them.

This part is true. Kids should not be smoking weed. Nobody should until their brain is fully developed, which is around 25. This applies to all psychoactive substances. Good luck enforcing that one, though.

Everything I've seen says the opposite. Not to mention that most studies on it get people blazed out of their minds before they test their driving ability, which is obviously a bad idea and only idiots do that. But studies on light to moderate "highs" show that high drivers actually are safer than the average driver in most conditions. Their reaction time is not as good as normal, but they drove slower to compensate. That said, you still shouldn't drive high.

What a load of shit. You ever sucked dick for weed? Are there weedwhores out there living in alleys? Do pimps get kids hooked on weed to keep them around? Weed is no more addictive than video games or alcohol, and it is completely dishonest to compare it to heroin.

The increased risk of accidents only regards people driving while intoxicated, you're assuming that everyone who smokes weed would drive intoxicated 100% of the time.

nice dub dubs though.

Pot fucked me up but I was retarded to begin with. Would have been much, much better off without it though

This

Well there you go missing what I said completely. The volcano is a solid material / heat emitter type of rig. It will produce a grey haze kind of like smog, not as bad as smoke, but if you saw it out the window you would say "my air is polluted".

By liquid vape I meant one of the nice box mod rigs you can build yourself off of parts. It should be closer to the size of a pack of cigs, and cost 100-200 dollars, and it should be refillable. Vape pens are aids-related but not because they go in your ass, it's because they rape you in the wallet while not even giving a good mist off.

Pic related is a good vaporizer setup, can be used for anything.

I smoked weed every day for years I wouldn't have if I knew then what I knew now while I was in high school and me and all my friends were hardcore nationalists with hints of white supremacy. Anecdotal info is worthless.

People with any level of agency can handle pot even better than alcohol.
I'm all for full legalization, let people grow it in their yard.
The idiots will be "weeded" out.
The master race will prevail.
Give me one good argument against this eugenic tactic.

I love pot and it doesn't dull my brain. Suck on that, kikes.

Well the equation assumes 50% of all drivers being under the influence of weed. I would need a pen and some paper to find the critical percentage (it's just a linear equation) but I am not at home. I guess the critical percentage is around 30%. As long as it's legal it is possible that people drive while under influence of weed.

Btw I know the number of deaths is negligible. The reason I bring this up is because liberals are often anti gun and pro weed. It's basically a you can have your weed if you allow us to have our guns debate.

Holy shit you kikes are desperate.

Most people realize that but there are an insane amount of kikes shills pretending pol hates cannabis for some reason.

Another problem with stats about car accidents and weed is that weed persists in your system for much longer than pretty much any other drug. Weed is detectable for at least a month after the last time you got high, vs a couple days/weeks for alcohol, meth, coke, etc.

Anyway, a lot of these stats come from tests on people who were in car accidents and when they find weed in their system, it goes straight into the "weed causes crashes" stats. Problem is that you can't tell if that person was actually high, or if they smoked two weeks ago.

People become addcited to their escapes from reality. Nothing new, but the fact that potheads denied it for so long and it is getting thrown back in their faces is funny.

pic related is where stonerfags belong

You can get better. Exercise a lot, socialize more, go travel to other countries way out of your comfort zone. Meditate, exercise, nutrition, etc.

If you feel you won't or unable recover then you are setting that limit yourself. You have to tell yourself you ARE getting better, while making the steps to do so.

Forgiveness must come from within and you can move on.

I'm not there yet, but I feel like I am getting better too.

Take care m8.

wow so literally nothing but learning how to grant farm?

I think a lot of people think that everyone who smokes weed is a 420 BLAZE IT FAGGOT loser dressed up in rasta gear sporting shitty dreads. The problem is that it's just those fags are the noisiest and draw the most attention to themselves, putting weed leaf stickers on all their shit and never shutting their goddamn mouths. But there are plenty of responsible people who smoke weed while leading productive lives and contributing to society. But obviously these people don't go talking about that because it's illegal and it would largely ruin their lives if they got caught.

Same for nationalists, especially white nationalists. Trashy skinheads are the most vocal so they've become the stereotype, what uninformed people picture when they think "white nationalist" even though most of us aren't anything like that.

Pot isn't a problem as long as you have moderation. Smoking weed 24/7 obviously isn't productive but there's no harm in just smoking on the weekends or every once in a while as long as it doesn't cause any conflicts or get in the way of other things. If you spend your normal Saturday sitting in a chair playing video games all day then it won't make a difference if you do it stoned I'm 17 so underage ban me but I've smoked hundreds of joints and I'm still a straight a student. I've gone weeks smoking every day and I've gone months without smoking at all. Weed is as addictive as soda, so you like it which makes you want to do it again but you do not go through withdrawals when you don't have it like you would with heroin or any other addictive drug

how the fuck would you use an tank designed for eliquid for dried plant matter?

The NSDAP met in a fucking beer hall, faggots.


no way 30% of drivers even have trace amounts of THC in their system, 30% of all drivers are certainly not intoxicated. Where you only factoring weed smokers as "all drivers"? Would be great ammo against liberals though If you could figure out the exact risk. I'm no statfag, so i'm going to stop trying to critique your methodology.

fucking boomers man

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I don't see many people arguing for adolescent marijuana use.

I've never even visited Holla Forums, m8.

Feels fukking gutte mayne

Thanks man

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Right on. Too many "weed ruined me forever" fags in this thread. I'm pretty sure adolescent use did some damage to me too, but that doesn't mean you're a lost cause and you should give up on life.

Like you said, exercise, meditation, a clean diet, regularly challenging your mind by studying complex subjects or learning new languages, etc. All of this will, in time, reverse any damage weed did to you. People underestimate how plastic and malleable our brains are. It won't happen overnight, but your brain can be largely rewired with time and effort.

Any past psychological trauma you may have suffered, as long as there wasn't physical damage (and sometimes even then) you can recover from with a dedicated and sustained effort. Our brains can change much more than most people think, even if you're old.

Being an a student is easy in the public school system.
Also fuck you for buying weed that supports mexican gangsters.

How did you find fashy goy friends, user? I live in a liberal college town yes, I know the two are synonymous and have never met anyone who was advanced much beyond the paleo conservative stage and all of the people my age are liberal bernie bro types.

Fuck beaners It's legal in California

So much this. Like everything else in life, weed boils down to moderation. Is weed completely harmless? Of course not. But it's perfectly possible to enjoy weed and still lead a healthy, active life.

This vaporizer actually vapes dried plant matter so you don't have to drop a mint on the oils. You can also save the leftover vaped weed for cooking purposes.

The best way I've found to consume cannabis is to do it at most twice a week, only while exercising+cooldown. It's pretty easy to avoid stoner culture fags by not eating fucking cheetos and watching netflix all day when consuming. Also I only consume flower/concentrate that I know who it was grown by/what they used on it, since 99% of legal/medical shit is basically poison.

top kek, so you think dealers TELL their customers drugs are laced?


wow, so you have the same job mexicans who sit outside home depot do? *bows down to superior aryan worker*

This pretty much. I mean smoking for the first time in high school was what made me stop getting my news from the daily show and being a self deprecating beta to get girls, but that's probably not how most people see it. Basically weed will make you tolerate whatever environment you're in, unless you're in a police station. I know for a fact the KKK smokes at all their meetings in my town, but so do all the bernouts obviously.

I assume you're from the US too? Yeah that's not gonna happen. Full legalization in every state in the next 15 years. Might as well buy some cheap land in a to-be legal state and read some books on growing and biochemistry to compete with the kikes. Not nearly as hard as people make it out to be, especially if you don't smoke.


I bet everyone you know in general is a multi-cultural oversimplified wigger. Go to the deep south to the 100% white towns, every single person there will smoke–the judges, teachers, cops, etc.

Noice.

Wat.

So they blaze reefer as well as crosses?

yea, well at least it's preferable to the WN group who's just a bunch of retarded methheads

I'm not even criticizing it, just surprised.

all these "muh pot doesnt cause bad effects" shills.

Even if it didnt, it does make its users lazy, apathetic and easily manipulated into communist bullshit. It is thus extremely degenerate and shall not be tolerated.

pro-tip they are probably in a frat, I really missed out on frats tbh, my younger brother was in a buisness fraternity and all the guys were basically arkan's tigers "soccer club" tier politics wise

I've been in a similar situation to you.

First you change your mindset, don't just look for people to reinforce your worldview, that's a defensive take.

Then you go on the offensive, and work on changing other people's mindsets, it's not as difficult as you might think think, just remember you're not going to change everyone. But you'll ironically have a stronger bond with ultra-liberals you helped to see the light.

To me this is the third position mindset, one of going on the offensive, putting oneself into uncomfortable and unfavorable positions, to explore and conquer within and without. A revolutionary mindset.

I don't know about the study (since the article doesn't actually link it, already a warning sign), but it seems the daily mail's vague wording seems to be pushing an agenda

Oh, so it's basically the right wing equivalent of Salon or Jezebel

My dad smoked pot from 25 - 65 y.o. and, shortly before he died, an MRI showed atrophy in his brain that the doctor said was typical of alcoholism. He didn't drink, he only smoked massive amounts of weed. He also had emphysema and died of prostate cancer, again, most likely related to "lifestyle choices" according to the doctors. Take from that what you will.

Dependent as in they will keep doing it when they feel like it because it's enjoyable. Like alcohol, tv or videogames.
Only if you're predisposed to them. I knew a shit load of people who smoked weed in highschool and none of them developed any psychotic disorder.
Odd, I graduated highschool with honors while being a somewhat heavy user in grade 12. Even got a 96% on an English test when I was baked while nearly everyone else failed.
Probably the only good point. Driving high is risky, although I know people who seem to do it easily with no noticeable differences in their driving.
They should probably study heroin if they're going to say something that retarded. After heavy use in grade ten, I took a 6 month break with ease. Then in grade 11 I stopped completely for the whole year, I started again in grade 12 because I didn't feel any better with it completely out of my system and I know I have the willpower to stop at any time. Weed addiction is more psychological, while heroin is extremely physical with horrible withrawals. Out of all the people I knew in highschool that smoked weed, there's only one who I'd call an addict. As in he needs to smoke any chance he gets, but he has an extremely addictive personality as well as anger problems if he's sober.

It affects everyone differently. Sadly some people enjoy it too much and feel the need to make their lives revolve around it, which makes some naive people think that all weed smokers must be like them.

are these long-term use issues?

Anecdotal evidence is pointless since it varies from person to person. However, since most anecdotes in this thread are con, I'll list some of my own experiences. Note, if you smoke pot, you should only be having sativa. Indica is the one that truly makes you a lazy and effortless couch potato, and I think that's what most people in this thread are basing it upon. Indica does happen to be the more popular strain among heavy stoners as well.

Pros
Cons

The common theme with any sort of substance is moderation. I'll be damned if there aren't alcoholics in this very thread who condemn pot because its "bad for you". You don't take too much of anything.

Too much pleasure is called degeneracy. Too much alcohol? Degeneracy. Too much food? Degeneracy. Too much pot? Degeneracy.

Additionally, I think the study OP linked isn't actually linked in the article which is a decent sign of bias.
Makes sense. But dependent=/=addiction.
Again, makes sense. However, as mentioned earlier, moderation is key. Alcohol is a big cause of liver cancer yet we all still drink it.
This one is true simply because of teenagers and their growing brains. But if we're on the subject of how pot is bad in general, then we can assume we are speaking of adults.
Well, no shit.
A person who regularly smokes can go on a break and not have withdrawal symptoms. A person who regularly consumes heroin cannot.

It mostly only does that to people who are already naive idiots.

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That IQ change shows why weed is so detrimental to someone with average intelligence.

You sound like an idiot.

Also,
Daily reminder that the first two drafts of the declaration of independence was signed on hemp paper

Hemp is the main reason why weed became illegal in the first place. The paper industry didn't want to compete with hemp, as hemp is much more efficient at making paper and eliminates the need to cut down trees.

You may see a lot of hollywood movies where jew actors play characters who smoke pot, yet a lot of jews smoke weed in real life. The idea that the "herbal jew" is to make goyim stupid is retarded when so many jews, well known ones or not, smoke weed. Yet you will NEVER hear any mention of the paper industry being behind banning weed in jew movies about weed. Kikes need to keep getting their shekels from the paper industry they've already invested so much into.

Liquids are almost uniformly aids for your body. I forgot the lung condition that results from inhaling some of the chemicals but it's out there. No thanks, I don't want to be a test generation for a new drug vehicle when there hasn't been any longitudinal studies on it.

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I don't know if it makes you an idiot or not, but I can confirm weed is exceedingly popular among Jews.

I guesstimate 50% of kikes under 30 smoke weed.

See, the thing is, with addictive substances, you're inevitably going to lose your desire to "moderate".

Cool statistic dude

I was talking about his sentence structure and grammer.

bad b8 m8

it's pretty much entirely about the user, either you're a fucking loser or you're not, smoking weed really doesn't effect that one way or the other.

obviously you should use it appropriately and not be high as fuck 24/7 or get into the absolute degeneracy of "stoner culture". not wear anything rasta, dont smoke blunts, dont listen to rap dont be a faggot.

but if you're gonna be john q public working your 9-5 and not being a cunt, who cares if you toke a bit? (preferably something you grew yourself)

also never buy from blacks.
(libshits have the best weed, and none of them ever own guns)

this is not right for everyone.

We've been using vaporizers to administer medicine since before I was born. What is an inhaler? And what is a humidifier? Have fun smoking retard it's your choice.

I wouldn't use the dried plant matter. Predone weed liquids or edibles (not that I'm interested in doing them anymore, just that's what I would do if put to it).

Nice try, counterkike, but this isn't a thread about pharma jew, it's about chronic abuse of a drug and the drug leeching out into the community of minors. Suck a dredle you degenerate hippie, and quit telling people not to worry about taking chemical substances just because you manage to live your shit life while stoned.

Many years ago I was on the fence, I watched reddit's /r/trees community to see if potheads were decent people or if they were the human garbage of stereotypes. They pretended to be upstanding members of the community but then there was a thread about how to print fake coupons to steal shit from stores and they were all super excited about it and downvoted everyone who pointed out they were being niggers. They're human garbage and legalization will be a disaster.

lets make a reich and improve the state of the nation before we start labeling tobacco/cannabis/alcohol as things that need to be banned.

Smoking marijuana taught me to distrust the Jews.

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No one said that Ritalin or fucking Prozac is better than this shit.
In fact, nobody should ever take a mind-melting drug in their lives.
You are an idiot.

Frats are one of the few organizations that are still overwhelmingly hwite, makes sense.


Dubs of truth. I've found that most liberals are pretty receptive to the JQ and I've converted some people towards basic civicuck nationalism, but have yet to convert anyone to full natsoc. Guess I need to try harder. How do you talk to normies about race without them flipping shit?

Polite sage for off topic.

Everything pleasurable is addictive, period, it is a matter of degree. And there are many people psychologically addicted to pot.

Simply ebin, Holla Forums. Good to see you're still just as statist as the commiefags on Holla Forums

When I was sitting in a uni class I overheard a bunch of liberals getting butthurt because someone had insinuated that nogs sell shitty weed. They went onto rationalize how it wasn't true and cited a few vivid cases where they Bought dank from a dindu. Lels were had.

Hey man similar situation here. Had psychosis and got tossed in the mental bin twice. You can definitely recover.

Hi, /liberty/. Did you even read the thread? Most anons are even defending weed as OK in moderation.

also, how does it feel to have your party's presidential nominee be Gary "don't call them illegal" Johnson?

dont you cucks realize it was rich jews who illegalized it in the first place?

kikes just want you to be utterly dependent upon their pharma kikery.

if you think it should be illegalized the day of the rope is coming for people like you who seek to take our freedoms and regulate what we consume.

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Do inhalers use glycol or diacetyl? Enjoy your popcorn lung.

Everything has its own time and place. I respect something like but the recreational use is retarded and all the heavy pot users I've met are burned.

So you know losers who smoke (as do I) but I also know kids that are pharmacists and in med school who are huge pot heads. I severely doubt it does much to alter a person's inherent potential. If the person was meant to be a loser then smoking isn't going to be the thing that makes a person do that. It just becomes the assailable hobby that he has in conjunction with other losers

It's a waste of time and money kiddos. Flush that shit down the toilet.

If you feel the need to use drugs, you are probably subhuman.

Any kind of drug can easily become an easy way out if you're having trouble dealing with life. I've been addicted to videogames and internet porn for more than 10 years, I should know what I'm talking about.

You disgust me.

Good look bringing about the Forth Reich while campaigning on a platform of nofun allowed.
Anyone have the goebbels speech on moralism?

Now do the same study with opioids.


Let' just give the american population opium! It's safe! Weed is dangerous though because 1 and 6 people who regularly smoke weed have an addictive personality.


Fucking retards.

Found it.
This is obligatory reading for threads like this.

What do you need a sharp mind for goyim?

The chosen race are here for you!

Yet we're still allowed to choose to poison our bodies with alcohol and tobacco?
Marijuana is far better for you than these 2 legal drugs that are far more destructive to the family unit, to society and to yourself and yet no one gives a shit.
I believe in the right of people to determine what goes into their body as long as it doesn't impact others.

No better than an alcoholic.

How can you be for legalising another harmful substance when there are so many problems generated by the legal ones?

Keep telling yourself that.

yeah you buy black, there's less in the sack.
simple as that.

Because its really not that bad in moderation like the already legal drugs you can't outlaw all fun and going out to drink with your mates is a fun way to unwind after a shitty day like sitting down in front of the idiot box and watching shitty tv shows, or getting on the internet to shitpost on an anime message board.

Old science taught our brains didn't change much after adolescence, they were wrong.
Old science taught us that some substances were so addictive a monkey would use drugs to the exclusion of all else until it died, turns out it wasn't the drugs it was the complete social isolation that caused the extreme abuse.
take the quiz and see how much Old science you still have damaging your perception of the world of drug abuse
chasingthescream.com/how-much-do-you-really-know-about-the-drug-war/

You're a fucking retard. The body also has opiate receptors. The endogenous ligand for CB receptors is arachnoic acid, a byproduct of cell membrane damage while endorphin binds to opiate receptors.

Just because other compounds in nature bind to it doesn't mean its supposed to you fucking retard. By that logic meth and heroin are meant to be ingested

Minor annoyance but why do you people always put spaces between external links? Why not just remove the http:// or https:// at the start if you want people copying and pasting rather than clicking the link there? It won't be recognised as a hyperlink if you do that so newfags will still be forced to copy and paste. Only adds an extra second to remove the space in the url your way but.. just why do it in the first place?

Polite sage.

Kill yourself.


Kill yourself.

You can see the trending effects of potfags in this thread alone.
>>>Holla Forums

Hey man pot makes you super smart and it cures cancer, don't hate on it if you dont-…haha I forgot what I was sayin

So you're saying that alcohol and cigarettes aren't worse for your health than weed?
You have to be pretty retarded to believe that considering how many deaths are directly related to alcohol and cigarettes and yet no fucking deaths are directly related to weed consumption.

If people knew the dangerous effects of alcohol before it became widespread consumption then they sure as hell would've banned it along with cannabis.

This thread:

Which one is it?

Right but how many people can enjoy alcohol without it ruining their health and lives? and why should they be denied that just cause some of you niggers are too autistic to enjoy something in moderation without killing yourselves or others?
I guess we shouldn't have guns either I mean they're responsible for killing other people too right? since no one seems to have personal accountability for their own actions.

What a fucking stupid argument

The whole point of banning something is stopping stupid people from acquiring it and causing harm to themselves.

Your shitty false equivalencies don't work here bud, only the clinically insane are the ones that guns shouldn't be given to, any low IQ borderline retard knows a gun will kill them but harmful substances that can be consumed will alter their minds and put them in a place where they can't make rational decisions.

Yep, I do. Already live in a state where it's fully legal(probably why it was nothing for me to get into such a rut with the shite) and saw the 500% increase in transients seeking the herbal jew, gets worse every fucking summer. It's like living in 2008 Holla Forums with more degenerates.
I ran an experiment and tried to grow some the "traditional" way and the bud was a completely different thing than what they sell in stores, no Idea how to describe the effect, much more psychedelic and less couch-locky even though I grew indica.
I think "GMO" weed is already here, I don't even like smoking the shit they sell in stores socially anymore and haven't touched the shit since the grow experiment quasi-failed(I just got tired of having the lights on all night and having to rig up electric mesh because no pesticides, it created a low humm throughout my house that probably would've drove me insane)

Reminder that Donald Trump has never smoked pot and doesn't drink.
He's 70 years old and has a full head of hair and the energy of a 30 year old man.
Treat your body right and it rewards you.

Justifying a bad habit by pointing at someone else and saying he has a worse habit.

Fucking this, I regret ever touching the shit.

Nigger you're fucking retarded, popcorn lung happened to people who worked in popcorn factories because of the artificial popcorn flavouring they used. Not because of glycol. Glycol has been used in asthma inhalers for years.

The Donald watched alcohol destroy his brother so he would never want that shit to happen to anyone else

why do you think children are banned from drinking, because it fucks their brain up, any mind altering chemical is going to have bad effect on a childs mind.

Consuming psychoactive plants is völkisch as fuck.

I am one of those veterans. Weed is fantastic for giving me an appetite so I'm not a hungry skeleton and it helps me get to sleep.

Fucking newfags I swear to christ!

This post can be summed up as

Diacetyl is frequently found in ecig liquid.

America has more nigger crime than China. By your retard pothead "logic", that would be due to something bad about America's very existence rather than there being more niggers in America than in China.

You have nothing but MUH FEELS and DUDE WEED LMAO.

Hitler was a regular user of oxycodone, an opiate. So was Goering.

It's also been said he liked cocaine, although the evidence on this is a bit lacking.

You don't have to be clinically insane to go use a gun irresponsibly and harm yourself or someone else.
Keep pretending these things aren't equatable just to make your shitty excuses for why a harmless drug should be illegal because you love the government restricting you.

These are shit tier arguments. I took the time to go through OP's points one by one and critique them past "nuh uh u r dumb" and agreed with the reasonable one.

You "lmao dude weed" fuckers are more annoying than the "420 smoke every day" faggots. At least they usually know they're potheads, but your sort has the same false sense of superiority as the average liberal.


There are plenty of reasoned, nuanced positions in this thread. Did you even read it?

No its impossible to overdose and die from weed is my point its very easy to overdose on alcohol and its not been linked as a carcinogen either so it doesn't cause cancer not to mention its health benefits in pain relief and other areas.

Who doesn't like cocaine?

I was using cannabis for about 3 months, using it everyday when i got home from work. it was a waist of time but a can't really think of anything else i could have been doing, also was less damaging than my day drinking. It was very obvious to everyone around me that i was using, but i didn't really care. would cough a lot, i also had trouble eating when not high.

In my honest opinion weed should probably be legal, but we need to do something about the media pushing it as cool. That's what causes kids to want to use it, because they think its cool. I and a lot of other people here have noticed a pattern of those who smoked weed in school as being slower, it must have something to do with brain development. Its the same thing with alcohol, All they wanna do is drink and party like its the only method of social meetings.

Hey whats Holla Forumss attitude on hallucinogens?

One funny little anecdote, jaguars regularly trip on DMT to relax.

are you trying to pour gas on the "pagans are degenerate" meme?

I tried shrooms and acid years ago. The former I'd maybe do again some time in life, the latter I wouldn't.


Kek, pagans are degenerate regardless

Drugs have been taken since antiquity, and not just in the downfall periods of the empires we regularly extol. No-fun christians always seem to poke their heads out in these threads.

Have you ever wondered why most murders involving guns are done with the criminal on some form of subtance, be it alcohol, anti- depressants and other drugs?


Oh great we have a lolberturdian here, the cognitive dissonance potheads have is nauseating at least fat people admit their addictions are harmful to their bodies.

Yes before you ask I would ban fast food as well, to stop lower IQ members of the population from harming themselves.

What went wrong with the LSD?

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Everywhere that has legalized weed shows kids using it less because it's not an edgy, rebellious thing to do anymore. Especially if responsible adults are known to use it, it's just not cool anymore.

I think hallucinogens are fantastic, excellent tools to really understand how your mind works and why you think the way you do, allowing you to find and address any defects that may have built up over years. However I don't like seeing people do hallucinogens recreationally. I've seen people fry their brains doing too many hallucinogens too often, they are shouldn't be considered party drugs.

Not using drugs

Do you have a single fact to back that up?


You took the time to post your personal opinions on the matter as a counter-"argument" to facts and statistics. Your degenerate drug use has rendered your brain into a state of libtardation.

For saying potheads are degenerate idiots, you guys are really shitty at making actual arguments. You argue like liberals, appealing to the crowd and using shaming tactics.

We should be sending alcohol drinkers and tobacco smokers to jail pronto!

So much this.

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I have a friend whose been using LSD lately.

He takes it alone.

He learned and accepted some things, but says that lately its just been a bunch of bad trips. Could you recommend some things he could try watching or doing while on it, or what do you think?

Suggest to him to stop being a drugfag degenerate. Alternatively, hand him a loaded gun next time he takes some and tell him it's filled with candy.

What's your argument then? That blacks smoke weed so it's bad? That hippy multicult faggot stoners smoke weed so it's bad?

It's clear that kids shouldn't smoke weed because it's damaging to developing brains. But for adults, what's your argument against it?

Tell me this, is it possible to smoke weed in any regularity without being a pothead?

Nothing went "wrong", really. Mushrooms felt warm and weird, like a state of deep understanding whereas acid felt like facing something cold and unknown.

I didn't like LSD. I didn't take it in a calm situation so that might have been my mistake, but it felt overpowering. MDMA was my best drug experience though.

Take another toke, degenerate.

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How often is he doing it? I'd say even monthly is too much. I like how Alan Watts put it

I haven't smoked in years, user. Try again. Is it so hard to articulate why you hate weed so much? If so, maybe you have some thinking to do.

sage for doublepost

Oh ok, that makes sense.

Mushrooms apparently have a "lost" feeling to them

While LSD is more of a "explore" feeling

Does that sound right to you?

i love a cokeAcola a few a week but i get the glass bottle real suger coke so yummy its imported from mexico i will risk mexican water over HFCS

If it's damaging for developing brains what makes you think it magically isn't damaging to developed brains? What's the cut off point for when weed stops having any effects on your brain? 18? 20?

Quite frankly it's waste of time that is propagated by DUDE WEED LMAO kikes to keep us from bettering ourselves. If all you want from weed is escapism then read a book or watch a movie, don't poison your mind with shit like alcohol and drugs.

Weekly

Thanks man I'll tell him that.

That pot is harmful for developing brains has been well known for a while now. Alcohol is as well. That said, what is the arguments against adult use without driving? SSRIs are a far more dangerous demon.

Do you want an essay on why I oppose niggers, jews, and uncontrolled immigration too?

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There's a big difference between consuming a substance and participating in the habituation culture that surrounds that substance.
I have nothing against drinking, but have something against drinkers for instance.
If you drink a beer in front of me, won't think you're a degenerate. but if every time I see you you have a beer in your hand I'll probably think less of you.

If you'd read my posts, you'd have seen that I said the brain is generally done developing at around 25, and I don't think anyone under that age should smoke. However, it's worth noting that every psychoactive drug has similar detrimental effects on developing brains, including caffeine and alcohol. Not to mention hardcore shit like adderal and SSRI's.


You keep avoiding the question. I don't think it's very complicated. Why do you hate weed so much? I'm not looking for an essay, just any old answer.


Well said.

What if I said it does none of those things to me and actually helps me? Be honest, have you ever smoked weed? You sound like someone who judges without ever having experienced it. Also, do you drink?

I smoked weed a few times in highschool, but by the time I was in university I stopped being a fuck up.

Stop fucking your minds with that poison. Alcohol, drugs they will all fuck you up and stop you from becoming a decent productive member of society.
If you "try" it beyond a few times when you were a normie I can understand it.
But I really don't get the amount of potheads in here browsing Holla Forums

weeds bad
and meth is to white like crack is to black stay away from drugs and pharmaJEWtacoolz

And who is the propaganda surrounding weed aimed at? People aged 16-25. The amount of stoner comedies coming out to get kids hooked on this shit most of which is made by (((g-d's chosen))) is inexcusable. To make average IQ kids turn into dribbling retards that just spend their welfare money on weed and alcohol.

Sure, but that's a problem with modern degenerate culture, not weed itself. That's definitely a problem though.

There is a lot of research to suggest that smart people are intellectually curious about drugs. Since I consider the average Holla Forums user to be above average it really doesn't surprise me that there's so many people who have ha positive experiences with drugs. I have a job and graduated with a STEM degree in a good state Uni so it's obvious that it didn't fuck me up.

I don't see why smoking weekly to enjoy some anime or a movie makes me any worse than fags creating dead zones in their brain by pounding beers.

Perhaps you should try reading? Or does something being said in greentext format make it impossible to understand for your damaged brain?

Of course user, just like you need to live with niggers to see how bad niggers are, live in cartel-owned territory in mexico to see how bad cartels are, inject yourself with heroine a few times to know heroine is bad. Right, Chaim?

Now tell me how legalisation will make this problem go away.

Yeah, wouldn't be wrong to say that.

You are addicted.

Professer hall did absolutely NO fucking research for this "Article"

High quality argument from a drugfag right here.

So I'm not wrong then? That niggers and spics abuse hard drugs doesn't dictate the goodness or badness of a thing. If you took nigger behavior into account to decide the goodness of an action, then we probably shouldn't own guns because chimps are shooting each other in chicongo. Drugs are harmful if used irresponsibly, as are all things.


I haven't smoked in two years because of work, but I miss it sometimes. Alcohol is awful.

Professer hall did absolutely NO fucking research for this "Article"

It is his "Review" of other peoples research.

Which is incredibly sad.

It's a fucking opinion piece that cites nothing.

Do you have a job? Or own a business? You strike me as a very bitter NEET with no real experience or understanding of the things you hate.


Well making it legal or illegal won't affect cultural Jews pushing it on kids, just like they used to push cigarettes on kids. However there has been a number of examples showing that legalizing weed and making it normal actually reduces the weed consumption rate in young adults because it's no longer cool and rebellious.


You are addicted.

For real though, he didn't say he needed it, only that it was nice and complements the experience. Just like enjoying a beer with friends doesn't make you an alcoholic.

Your brain is so addled from drug use you can't even understand what you're responding to.


Jesus christ you are pathetic.

I've spent most of my adult like addicted to pot. It's had seriously negative repercussions on my life. I'm 35 and I've smoked since I was 15. The longest period I've stopped was two years, and that was when living in a country where they cracked down hard on the stuff. It was also the most productive period of my life. I think about it all the time if I haven't smoked in a few days.

Can confirms.

STAY AWAY FROM THE HERBAL JEW KIDS IT'S NOT YOUR FRIEND

I can confirm pot is terrible.

My uncle was addicted to pot for a long time.
Then he OD'd on pot one day from smoking way too much and fell into a pot-induced coma for a week. After he awoke, his craving became more and more desperate.
He eventually started to use pot needles until one day he contracted HIV from sharing a used pot needle.
He's unfortunately not with us anymore.
Rest in piece.

BREAKING NEWS
SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS BAD

Took them 20 years to work this out at god only knows what cost to the taxpayer.

Explain it to me then. I guess my drug addled mind is too slow.

Not him but holy shit that projection.

Just like legalisation of alcohol made it less rebellious and cool right?

It would strangle the nigger gang's income sources since they aren't slinging on the block anymore.

While weed is bad, those pictures are bullshit. Upper left is some kind of burn or bacterial infection causing blood-filled cysts, mid left is textbook lymphatic infection, probably bubonic plague, and bottom left is a high temperature burn, probably boiling oil. Upper right is blunt force trauma to the face, causing bleeding from the mouth and nose, middle right appears to be a mostly healed abrasion on the skin, and I have no idea what caused the bottom right. Even in lethal doses, THC can not cause wounds like those that appear in the pictures.

Let's add "you need to cut off a finger to know dismembering yourself is bad" to that list, will that make your thick skull understand better?

Here is an actual study on the effects of marijuana on drivers.

"It is well established that alcohol increases accident risk. Evidence of marijuana’s culpability in on-road driving accidents is much less convincing.

Although cannabis intoxication has been shown to mildly impair psychomotor skills, this impairment does not appear to be severe or long lasting. In driving simulator tests, this impairment is typically manifested by subjects decreasing their driving speed and requiring greater time to respond to emergency situations.

Nevertheless, this impairment does not appear to play a significant role in on-road traffic accidents. A 2002 review of seven separate studies involving 7,934 drivers reported, “Crash culpability studies have failed to demonstrate that drivers with cannabinoids in the blood are significantly more likely than drug-free drivers to be culpable in road crashes.” This result is likely because subject under the influence of marijuana are aware of their impairment and compensate for it accordingly, such as by slowing down and by focusing their attention when they know a response will be required. This reaction is just the opposite of that exhibited by drivers under the influence of alcohol, who tend to drive in a more risky manner proportional to their intoxication.

Today, a large body of research exists exploring the impact of marijuana on psychomotor skills and actual driving performance. This research consists of driving simulator studies, on-road performance studies, crash culpability studies, and summary reviews of the existing evidence. To date, the result of this research is fairly consistent: Marijuana has a measurable yet relatively mild effect on psychomotor skills, yet it does not appear to play a significant role in vehicle crashes, particularly when compared to alcohol. Below is a summary of some of the existing data.

“At the present time, the evidence to suggest an involvement of cannabis in road crashes is scientifically unproven.

To date …, seven studies using culpability analysis have been reported, involving a total of 7,934 drivers. Alcohol was detected as the only drug in 1,785 drivers, and together with cannabis in 390 drivers. Cannabis was detected in 684 drivers, and in 294 of these it was the only drug detected.

… The results to date of crash culpability studies have failed to demonstrate that drivers with cannabinoids in the blood are significantly more likely than drug-free drivers to be culpable in road crashes. … [In] cases in which THC was the only drug present were analyzed, the culpability ratio was found to be not significantly different from the no-drug group.”

REFERENCE: G. Chesher and M. Longo. 2002. Cannabis and alcohol in motor vehicle accidents. In: F. Grotenhermen and E. Russo (Eds.) Cannabis and Cannabinoids: Pharmacology, Toxicology, and Therapeutic Potential. New York: Haworth Press. Pp. 313-323."

"Evidence of impairment from the consumption of cannabis has been reported by studies using laboratory tests, driving simulators and on-road observation. … Both simulation and road trials generally find that driving behavior shortly after consumption of larger doses of cannabis results in (i) a more cautious driving style; (ii) increased variability in lane position (and headway); and (iii) longer decision times. Whereas these results indicate a 'change' from normal conditions, they do not necessarily reflect 'impairment' in terms of performance effectiveness since few studies report increased accident risk.

REFERENCE: UK Department of Environment, Transport and the Regions (Road Safety Division). 2000. Cannabis and Driving: A Review of the Literature and Commentary. Crowthorne, Berks: TRL Limited."

The "Study" that OP posted is pure fucking bullshit.

It's not even a fucking study.

Do you really think those two things are analogous? Don't you think you're being a tad facetious? It's like describing the taste of a fruit you have never tried.

This board is sadly becoming more and more bullshit.

A 2 year old article about how pot is horrible.

If your not going to smoke weed then you better not EVER do MDMA, Amphetamines, get drunk, take any pills, or even drink coffee. Almost every drug available including wine, coffee, and sugar are more damaging than pot.

The only way pot is going to fuck you up is if you abuse the Christ out of it for a long period of time, on the other hand you might get drunk one time and end up having your stomach pumped or having a car accident.

Also there are actually faggots in this thread who claim weed is bad and that MDMA is their drug of choice. MDMA will put holes in your brain after just a few uses and many intelligent people have smoked pot for decades and not had visible brain damage.

I wish I could just succumb to the herbal jew and be content. Unfortunately the only thing that makes me feel normal is the Opiate Jew.

It's called an analogy, nigger. I used more obvious, extreme ones because you're too fucking stupid to comprehend your original "argument's" notion of "you can't have a negative opinion on things if you don't try it first". Kill yourself.

An addiction is an addiction no matter how intelligent you are.

DUDE WEED LMAO
The faster you fags understand the DUDE WEED LMAO aren't from around here the better.

You guys refuse to make arguments and toss ad hominems left and right but can't stand the taste of your own medicine.

Argue like a rational adult or don't bitch when you get treated like a child.

do they pay you to shill on the internet or do you do it for free?

Except for cigarettes, caffeine, and alcohol.. that stuiffs alright, despite their death rates.

A bunch of fags arguing against weed abuse ITT as if that needed explaining that it's bad.

But when asked repeatedly for a single argument why a responsible adult shouldn't be allowed to smoke weed, they freak out and avoid the question endlessly.

You want to destroy your body with alchohol?

GREAT! that's fine!

Want to trash your lungs with tobacco?

SUPER AWESOME!! heres some fee samples!

Want to get high?

STUPID GOYIM, IT'S NOT YOUR BODY, it belongs to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!

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Roe VS wade can be used as legal precident against Wickard vs Filburn.

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So just like alcohol, caffeine, and tobacco. Better ban that stuff too, I mean if we're trying to help the teenagers and not pharmaceutical profits.

You're the only one here making shit arguments based on projection and basic bitch lolbeturdian principles.

I've already told you substances that become abused by the lower IQ ends of society shouldn't be legalised. Maybe all those years of pot made you so thick you can't recognise an argument when you see one.

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I've been reading this thread for a while and have yet to see a single argument that pertains to adults enjoying weed responsibly.

But go ahead and copypaste them all here, make me look like a fool. I'll be waiting.

So weed should be banned because idiots don't use them responsibly? Would you also ban fast food and guns?

Weed legalization is only the beginning. These Jews wan't us to be pacified on fentanyl and they are working hard to ensure that every city has its fair share of methadone clinics/state santioned injection sites

Yeah, just look how dumb it makes scientists while all the "smart" people are getting drunk.

What happens when a WEEDLMAO faggot tries to make a stronger argument.

Read the thread again nigger, I'm not going to copy and paste every single thing I and others have said against you just because you're too doped up to have noticed them in the first place.

Better ban Holla Forums too then.

I'm hearing childish name calling and and ad hominem, but no rebutal. I'm guessing all the years of alcohol abuse have ruined your higher brain functions. Oh well, was hoping for a debate with a non-idiot.

Yes I would


Again I have to repeat this shit, any borderline low IQ retard knows a gun is dangerous. Ever wondered why most gun murders involve the perpetrator to have been abusing some form of drug or alcohol substance?

I agree, we need to ban guns too, I mean if we're banning everything that can be abused. Better ban logic since you're abusing the hell out of it.

You're obviously new here, stop posting.

I agree. Pot is very addictive to me. But coffee/ alcohol is just as addictive and actually more toxic. Most pills are much worse than alcohol and coffee. And drugs like MDMA, research chemicals, and cocaine are much worse than any pill..

Is ad hominem all you can do?

What a loser

The only way pot gets legalized if it's used for medical purposes. Chemo is expensive as fuck and still has many side effects. However, we must still continue to find a new cure or have we? for cancer. Pot is just a cheaper but potentially more dangerous alternative to Chemo. t.former cancerfag

what about the great carl sagan?

You're hearing text? Put the joint down.


No fucking shit.
Citation needed nigger.

You seem to derive a lot of emotion from your stance against weed. I pointed out that your analogy was absolutely fucking retarded in a nicer way. It's okay though, you seem incapable of having a conversation of consequence.

Not a lolberg.

You know your guns = drugs equivalency doesn't hold any water it's not even an argument.

More ad hominem. Still can't explain how some of the smartest people on the planet smoke pot. I guess the alcohol killed most of your brain cell already. This is fun. I'm having fun.

They're all just using angry ad hom arguments.
They're fucking comparing it to meth, there's no reasoning with such idiots.

POT IS BAD FOR YOU? NO SHIT!

Also, why are we giving pot to kids. That is retarded. If it were legal why would the same rules not apply to it as alcohol, hell I'd argue for an even older age to make it legal like 30….

The real argument is why does the government get to regulate what you put in your body? If you do not own your body and do not have the right to do as you wish with it, are you truly free?

No I'm saying if we ban thing just because they can be abused, we have to take away guns too. And women, elections, oxygen. Pretty much everything.

There is such a thing as water poisoning if moderation wasn't obvious enough.

The analogy is 100% accurate. You're too retarded to understand simple concepts.


Television celebrities, nigger rap "artists"? Who are these "smart" people you're trying to refer to?
Smoke your herbal jew, kike.

Looks like CRT got to this thread late. Oh well. Look at her waddle!

Pretty sure our forefathers smoked dope

Other people fought and died in wars for Israel, guess we should do that too.


0/10 bait m8

I point out smart people smoke pot, you reply that they must be idiots. I have therefore proven that you don't actually know enough about the effects of pot (hint: they're temporary) to be part of discussion. Hey, they have a pony thread over on Reddit. Check it out!

nice false equivalence there

It's all CRT has these days.

Kek you're grasping at straws at this point Weedman, I said mind altering substances so I'm clearly talking about drugs and alcohol.


Oh my you've lost the plot completely haven't you.

ad hominem
ad hominem
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ad hominem
ad hominem

We get, it you lost. Go get a new assignment from Huma.

You have not posted any single specific example of a supposed "smart person" that has been proven to smoke the herbal jew like your degenerate ass.


it's quite literally the same exact argument your fellow degenerate posted. "Other people did X therefore it's good to do X too"


Those evil dastardly cathode ray tubes.

Alchool is worst.

My sources are personal experience. I've abused pot, coffee, and beer and I find that pot is the least toxic as long as you only smoke a small/ moderate amount.

So here's my logic:
Say you have 2 cups of coffee in the morning, your going to be flying around cleaning shit and working hard for a couple hours then you crash and kinda feel weird/ like shit. Prolly should have not skipped breakfast and drank more water..

Or you could drink a couple beers at night but then you wake up feeling like shit because you didn't get good sleep since alcohol inhibits REM sleep, you also are somewhat dehydrated and notice you are starting to grow a diabetes belly.

Or you could just take one or two hits off a pipe when you are feeling really depressed or having bad anxiety, it takes the edge off but goes away after an hour and you feel perfectly fine unlike after drinking coffee or beer.

If someone sneaks a little vodka into your lemonade, are you going to end up shoving a comic book up your ass too? Jesus christ.

I enjoy a joint in the evening with my cup of tea,
I run my own business in IT employing ~10 people, am very active in my community, have never had an automotive accident or even been caught up with johnny law yet all the faggots on here talking about it like it's heroin on crack makes me laugh.

People will be predisposed to a variety of conditions depending on their genetics and these conditions can be triggered or exacerbated by certain chemical compounds. This is why side effects to medications can be so varied. I would have thought Holla Forums of all places would understand this.

I won't drink rum, it turns me into a horrible person, so you know what I do?
I dont drink rum.

The issue isn't the substance, it's the individuals inability for self control.
ANY SUBSTANCE WHEN ABUSED WILL CAUSE HARM
The whole premise of this thread is retarded D&C shit with a 2 year old link.

See this is the biggest thing with Weedmen who jump around the internet spreading their bullshit, they always bring up alcohol like it's be all and end all equivalency that makes it ok for Weed to be legalised.

One thing though, if we knew what the effects of alcohol were going to be, you sure as hell would've seen people ban it a lot sooner, and it could've spared a few families the misery of having an alcoholic as a family member.

If you think legalising weed is so great, just look at what alcohol has done to the people who drink daily and abuse the hell of it because it's legalised. and inb4 alcohol prohibition was a mistake lel it was obviously too late for that to do anything but piss off those who have already become addicted and will shell out their hard earned money for it.

Where'd you buy that IMAX Projector, Chaim?

And if we want to protect those who aren't genetically equipped to have self control for such subtances then it should stay illegal.

This

See

Holy shit user, thanks for the info!

I think marijuana should be legalized and regulated even though it's bad for you and degenerate, but I'll be damned if all the people making excuses for their bad habits don't make me want to change my mind.

Nobody gives a fuck if you smoke a joint but for God's sake quit trying to pretend that it's healthy and virtuous. It's a bad habit, just like drinking, smoking cigarettes, overeating, or gambling.

Alcohol also has some proven health benefits when used in small quantities but you don't see anyone defending alcoholism. Caffeine also has some proven health benefits but you don't see anyone pushing caffeine.

Stop being such FAGS about, JFC.

What?

Why would those of us that frequent Holla Forums not know what CRT is? And this thing where you accuse everyone of being "new" when they disagree with you? That's right out of the CRT playbook.

yep, it thins your blood slightly.

ad hominem… ad hominem… ad hominem… ad hominem… ad hominem…

CRT pls go

The current argument is not that it's good to do, having a lifestyle revolving any drug is degenerate, but to over-exaggerate the negative effects and down play the medicinal properties is just down right irresponsible. You know you can use weed without smoking it or getting high right? You're either a kike shill for the paper industry or just some massive idiotic troll. It can be abused, like anything. The thing most people here are trying to say is that out of all the possibly negative things you can put in your body, weed is one of the least dangerous, there are over the counter drugs that are worse for you, when you exaggerate the small dangers of weed you just sound like the idiots from the 40s and 50s who thought it made you an insane cannibal rapist.

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Mushrooms and alcohol are the only real white man´s drugs, alcohol is definitely the less aryan of the two though. Many other drugs can be useful in certain situations but have been kidnapped by the hippies and so have a stigma to them leading to often being used by dude weed lmao types.

Weed is a rather shit tier drug, doesn´t provide any real long term or practical gains. I can imagine it is useful for PTSD sufferers and the like however, maybe people in very high stress job environments too.

Basically almost all drugs have their uses, be therapeutic or recreational. If you can´t handle alcohol or drugs or you know youre prone to addictions dont use them, only worthless cunts who can´t control themselves nor think logically have drug problems. Like many other things they should not be outlawed just because the moron part of society are to stupid to use them properly and get fucked as a consequence.

One of the most prevalent jew tactics is to limit the people´s access to whatever they deem 'dangerous´ and unwanted all in order to get them to fall in line all nice and quiet.

You're literally going "lalalalalaa I can't here"

Fucking hell man grow a pair and actually make an argument

So you. You can't control yourself and you want all of the rest of us to ban something just because you can't say no. Tell you what, we can't control making fun of you, so you should leave and be banned. It's to easy for us to abuse you.

You aren't making the point you think you are, but maybe you're too high to notice.


Nigger, shillary's group is C T R
C T R
Do you really think it's Correct Record The or something?


Holy shit user, that is some high quality retardation you've got there.

WEEDMAN CAN'T TAKE THE BANTZ

Dude I weigh 120 lbs, 2 micro brews and I'm sleeping in my bed with the lights still on. And It's not a hang over its the feeling when you got shit for sleep.


Yea the whole point is that coffee and alcohol dehydrate the shit out of you, give you diabetes, and clogs up your liver.. Weed doesn't..

How many drinkers do you know who actually drink enough water to not have symptoms of dehydration in the morning?.. No one drinks one glass of water per beer dude and that's what you need.

That's hardly comparable to all the people reporting benefits after smoking. I can personally attest that smoking soothes my anxiety.

Or law makers simply want to protect the low IQ members of society that are prone to addiction from these harmful substances. If you're smart and you want to try drugs, there's no one stopping you.

I did. I pointed out that some of the smartest people alive smoke pot. And you just replied with "hur dur deh stupid".

CRT, pls go

Are you just gonna cherry pick that one sentence or make a rebuttal

webmd.com/diet/features/health-benefits-wine#1

foodandwine.com/articles/8-health-benefits-of-drinking-wine

Two links out of many many links that show health benefits. These benefits are 100% better supported by clinical studies than any health benefits from marijuana.

Alcoholism is still a huge problem, nobody is saying it isn't.

Tell me how the same logic that says "ban weed and fast food because retards abuse them at the detriment to themselves and society as a whole" doesn't apply to guns as well.

I love that I tricked you into getting mad that I was using the wrong name for your employer. I outed you CRT.

he wasn't always like this
ban assault marijuana

You just made the argument that laws don't stop people from using pot. So why do you want there to be laws against using pot, CRT?

The benefits of wine are from the antioxidants (available in other sources without alcohol) and the possibly the anti-aging effects of reservatrol which can be found at Sam's club in pill form. None of those benefits are from the r-group alcohol.

So? I'm sure intelligent people have also tried LSD, doesn't mean ever tom dick and granny should be trying it, kek are you still in highschool by any chance? I ask because I've seen 16 year dude weed lmao kids make these kinds of arguments.

Found the problem right there. Alcohol kills brain cells. Pot does not.

It's already illegal for 16 year old to smoke pot. What's your point?

Laws don't stop SMART people from trying pot you moron, we need to protect the stupid members of our society as well from the herbal jew. That's what the law is for, stopping stupid people from doing stupid things.

Stop being a skeleton. Go lift.


Rebut what? That you think I'm a paper industry shill now for not being a drugfag degenerate, or I'm a troll for disagreeing with you? That unsourced claims of OTC drugs (which ones? Name a specific example with information on how exactly it is worse than DUDE WEED LMAO) being worse therefore smoke herbal jew it's fine?


You fucked up, Chaim.

Thats just appealing to the lowest common denominator
might as well ban guns for those who can´t control their anger
or ban cars for those who cant control themselves on the road
or ban sugar for those who can´t control their eating habits

Appealing to such people fucks over the rest of us, can´t limit the potential of the whole race based on the few flawed individuals


this could be a valid way to fix this problem

Let's not make this a weed vs alcohol thing. Alcohol is obviously way worse for you than weed is and marijuana laws are obviously bullshit (it's classified as having no medicinal use and being highly addictive, both of which are false) but the fact that something as damaging as alcohol is legal is not an argument to legalize weed. It just points out the hypocrisy of the laws.

So you're saying laws don't work, that's why we need more laws?

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What's your answer to

Not per beer, but if I'm gonna have a few beers during the evening, I'm gonna drink about two glasses of water and wait for a piss before going to bed and I usually wake up perfectly fine.

Alcohol has always been a drug of degenerates.

Historically almost everyone drank watered down alcohol because they didn't know how to keep water from getting dirty or they drank with meals. The people who got drunk were the rapists, the criminals, the lechers, and the fools.

In actuality nothing much has changed in the past 3000 years, just the perceptions of society which are cultivated and crafted by (((those))) in power.

I think pot, alcohol, caffeine, tobacco, guns, and abortion should all have the same exact legal status. If one is illegal, they all are. If that was enshrined in the constitution, the politicians would have to actually do work.

Guns are weapons, even low IQ morons realise they're dangerous.

Now take that same low IQ moron and give him a mind altering substance like alcohol or drugs. Now you have a problem, now you have someone who is becoming addicted to something self destructive.

The same moron has a gun, does the gun change him in anyway? No it doesn't alter his mind one bit from the "hurr guns are dangerous, I shouldn't point them at kids. Jesus christ why do I have to explain this on Holla Forums of all places that guns and drugs are fucking different things? It feels like I'm having to educating a bunch of middle schoolers

personal experience but I have found that the preservatives they put in the beers is what gets me.

Around a year ago I started brewing my own at home and I won't turn back now.
I would have 3 - 4 beers in the evening on a saturday and wake up with a mild hangover on sunday.
Since the change, nothing, I can have my refreshments, go to bed and wake up fine, I even prefer the home brew over store bought now.

Resveratrol has low systemic bioavailability and is not well-absorbed orally—just like most dietary supplements. It's always better to consume thing naturally than it is to take a supplement because there is no guarantee that taking a supplement will make the nutrient bioavailable.

drugs.com/resveratrol.html

It's a moot point though, because there is evidence that not just wine has health benefits, but rather, all alcoholic beverages:

mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/alcohol/art-20044551

All of this is further still moot because very few people can drink only the recommended 2 drinks a day and instead become degenerate alcoholics.

Yup. If you live in colorado/washington 100% DO NOT buy anything in the stores. washington is the worst, a state run by idiots who eliminated the medical market, then gave all the grow licenses to naive businessmen who hire DUDE WEED horticulture majors who don't know shit about actually growing. Most hort schools just tell you MKP then use pesticides. Colorado created a moratorium on licenses and are being dominated by pathetic operations like Livwell and Native Roots.

Build a small ass greenhouse for cheap and grow a plant or two, it gets the full potential out of the genetics.


If you want info on legit GMO weed, check out united cannabis lel. They understand the market very well–and have thousands of DUDE WEED stoners sucking up any propaganda they spew.

I love you bluepilled psychiatry believers. Keep believing in a jewish subversion of the study of human behaviour, goy.

The gun doesn´t need to change the moron in any way though to become dangerous in his hands.
Not equating drugs and guns btw just pointing shit out

Conductor, we have a problem. (((cedabf))) suffers from legitimate mental retardation.

So you're telling me that inner city basketball Americans realize how dangerous guns are therefore practice proper firearm safety? And these same people that understand the dangers of guns and are careful to use them responsibly are incapable of doing so with marijuana?

Cuz that's bullshit. If we're talking about protecting morons from themselves, they don't understand how to own guns responsibly and neither do they know how to use drugs responsibly.

I'm not equating guns and drugs, I'm pointing out that they are both potentially dangerous things and any logic that says we should ban drugs to protect idiots from themselves also applied to guns.

That's funny, that's what we feel about you.

The 2 drinks a day is good for you meme is because a person who does do that on average is relaxing a bit more so he won't keel over with a heart attack because his job is killing him with stress. That doesn't mean the alcohol itself is good, but that an outlet is good. I think weed is a better version of that outlet.

Niggers should not have access to guns. In fact they should be sent back to Africa.

If you really need a source to compare THC to something like diphenhydramine then you are indeed an idiot.

If you're denying that alcohol abuse is way fucking worse than weed abuse, then I don't know what to tell you. Your friend f2c855 would probably ban you from buying fast food cuz you're too dumb to make important decisions for yourself.


No shit. I'm just pointing out the flaw in his logic.

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kek I was thinking of white people when it came to IQ, I wouldn't let a single nigger own a firearm or even let them in my society to begin with.

About as well as homeless alcoholics represent everyone who drinks now and then.

If one has enough agency they should be able to moderate themselves when it comes to drinking and smoking.

If you're not a 53 IQ imbecile with the will power of a Jew in the Wiemar Republic you should be able to: "Hey I've already smoked quite a few grams already this month. Perhaps I will go completely dry til next month then I'll smoke some more."

If you are so weak willed that you turn to booze and marijuana because muh depression and muh anxiety then you should isolate yourself from everyone else, turn your IPod on, put on "Iris" by Goo Goo Dolls, and not reproduce. Life isn't about constantly feeling euphoric and good every single moment. You're going to have to feel bad sometimes. I'm talking about the people who cry and complain and who're overly sensitive for absolutely no reason. I'm not talking about people who have sincere depression or anxiety. Equally if you deny yourself of all pleasure then you are rejecting a vital part of life. Nature isn't stupid and has given you a great gift: The ability to feel and the gift of sensation. When listening to your favorite song it makes you feel good. When watching your favorite movie it makes you feel good. When you're making love to your mate it makes you feel good. Degeneracy is over indulgence in pleasure and anti-moral behavior and smoking a joint and drinking a beer on occasion isn't going to turn you into a homeless man selling his butthole to eager AIDs infested faggots.

I'm not sure what's going on in this thread but you ever take three diphenhydramines and see what happens? Shit isn't good for you

And how do you know the difference between the two? Just born with the knowledge in your brain? Post a source nigger.


More niggers in America than in China, ergo it must be a problem innately with America for high nigger crime, nothing to do with numerical statistics and higher amount of niggers higher amount of nigger crime. :^)^)^)^)^)^)^)


Non-degenerate people don't randomly take drugs to see what they do.

FYI most of those basketball Americans you're talking about are already addicted to some form of substance when they start chimping out with a 9mm in the neighbourhood

You still haven't answered my question, after all this.

If your goal is protecting stupid people from themselves, and to that end you would ban weed and fast food, why would you not also ban guns?

you wrote a big screed for what could be simplified to 'moderation is good'

I do live in one of those states and am actually familiar with the Native Roots operation. They get shilled so fucking hard around these parts. I don't smoke at all anymore, but do want access to safe RSO capsules for a legitimate digestive issue it supposedly aides so I may grow for cannabidiol then brew edible hash with it.
I wish I could build a greenhouse, I live in one of those filing-cabinets for people we call a city.
wew, this triggers the freetard.

good timing, these pieces of shit were pushing for legalization over here

This bullshit non-argument goes both ways.

What you BELIEVE is irrelevant. There are multiple scientific studies that show it's the alcohol itself, not just "relaxing", that provides health benefits. Scientific evidence > your beliefs.

As a matter of fact, feels not reals is the biggest problem with weed advocates. Give me some fucking non-anecdotal evidence and maybe I'll take it seriously, otherwise it's all excuses to justify your habit.

I'm sure weed does have some minor health benefits, but it's being touted as a cure-all with 0 scientific evidence to back that up.

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Ok I'll make it simpler for you because I'm really wondering how you're not understanding this.

x moron + x gun = fine, safe, common sense prevails etc.

now this is what happens when you throw drugs into the mix

x moron + x substance abuse = wife beatings, suicidal, unstable, mentally ill.

I can't make it any simpler, I'm sorry.

I'm bored as fug tbh. Waiting on my pizza to get done and I got carried away

People abuse it trying to get high and to hallucinate, but even an accidental overdose can fuck you up, too much of it in your system can mess with your serotonin levels and make reality seem less real, you'd end up super depressed from the anxiety it gives and the constant threat of it triggering panic attacks. It can also constrict blood vessels and cause heart and blood pressure problems.

This is commonly used and an anti-histamine and people give it to their children.

Quitting weed was super easy for me, but then again I never got into the "I need it to do X" trap and just smoked it for the shits. It still made me a fucking retard though.

Unlike with sex/gender, this isn't a binary.

I hate to let go of my addictions, as does anyone, but other way around should be more effective. If we make a reich while being tobacco/cannabis/alcohol free, we provide an example for future laws, and we're fucking sober while we make that reich.

Your argument falls apart at the basic level because moron + gun does not equal fine and safe. It leads to crime, kids getting their hands on guns and shooting themselves or other people on accident, people shooting themselves trying to show off, and all kinds of shit.

If you have enough common sense to handle a gun responsibly, you have enough common sense to use drugs responsibly. Do you understand?


Again, potheads represent all weed users as well as alcoholics represent all drinkers.

I'd be fine if we agreed that weed in moderation isn't harmful even if we don't agree in benefits. Alcohol is a carcinogen that causes mouth, esophageal, liver cancers ontop of cirrhosis and fatty liver. That plus its neurodegenerativeness means that its downsides outweigh whatever nebulous 'benefits' it might have. Weed doesn't do these things and might only have certain specific psychological effects like inflaming tendencies towards schizophrenia.

No retardation was pointed out in your greentexting though, you just stated facts you disagreed with. I'm not trying to change this convo into a shit flinging sperg out, just thinking it would be better if you offered more on why you hold your views about this shit.


ppl who smoke enough to have to "quit" in the first place shouldnt be allowed to smoke anyway.


Only full on retards indulge in ANY kind of substance before properly reading up on it.
Same goes when doing it for non recreational purposes.

It's almost like the antihistamine was created and intended for exactly the suggested dosage posted on the box rather than shoving the whole thing down your throat to get high. Filthy degenerates.

Did I say that you dumb fuck? No, I didn't. So why the fuck is it in quotes?

how is your first day on this website?

yeah they have patents in the process of getting approved that patent specific cannabinoid ratios, kek. They have a stake in just about everything–Blue River Terpenes, Harborside in California, pharma labs in Canada+Jamaica. Also have a very close partnership with DNA Genetics, hired execs from monsanto, etc.

The thing is some people have to take it regularly and suffer the ill effects anyway.

You put in greentext something I neither said or implied. In other words, you're making shit up because you've got no real ground to stand on.

The gun doesn't alter your mind the way drugs and alcohol do. If someone shoots their gun at a gun range for a few hours, do they become intoxicated the way someone does after a few beers? They're not equal things, your argument falls flat just admit it.

That's an irrelevant point. Something doesn't have to affect your brain to make it unsafe. You said you'd ban fast food but that doesn't make you intoxicated after a few meals.

You want to ban everything that retards could hurt themselves with, but somehow you think guns are exempt.

Not him mate, check your IDs senpai.

Then why do you keep copy/pasting what other people said about your pet jewleaf and replacing "weed" with "alcohol" as if that disputes a point?


Is that a "have to" or a " "have" to"?


My VPN's retarded and jumps around between 3 or 4 different IPs for no apparent reason but come on now.

This guy looks exactly like me, minus the hair and beard of course. And earring.

The analogy isn't that drugs = guns, it's that both require responsibility to use in a constructive way and that misuse is very easy.

So you look like a shitskin? And you admit this? Suddenly your stalwart defense of the jewleaf makes more sense.

Have to as in recommended or prescribed by a doctor for chronic allergies.

Goddamn I am getting tired of repeating myself. You dumb fucks make the same stupid arguments over and over. Here's a blow by blow for you.


Do you see my point?


My mistake.

You're the one who brought guns into the argument of substance abuse, it's not my fault the two things don't correlate.

No the argument I made was


then you go

Why do you keep on avoiding my main point? We've been debating irrelevant shit and you still won't answer it.

You want to ban anything that retards could use to hurt themselves, including weed and fast food. How does that not apply to guns? And if you try again to say that retards can use guns responsibly, god damn. That's such obvious bullshit. Tell me what person you envision that can own a gun responsibly but can't buy fast food responsibly.

Aren't low IQ members of society misusing guns as well? Or do you think all the chimps in chicago are all rocket engineers?

If it's prescribed, it's not OTC.


None of that has anything to do with the posts you're responding to. What's more accurate is

We're going to need a lot of rope.

You mean the ones off their heads on crack and weed?

You race traitor faggot.

Frankly, I wouldn't trust you in particular with a gun.

my… defence? I'm talking about skull and face shape. Minus the shitskin beard this guy would look just fine. But you're right, sorry for attentionfaging.

So maybe it's just that untermenschen are prone to shirking their responsibilities? It's a little dishonest to pin their gang banging on their weed smoking.

ANOTHER post avoiding the question. Man, you should be a campaign adviser for Hillary.

no idea what happened, meant for

kek I want to ban fast food because it's causing physical harm to these people who don't know better.

Guns aren't a substance, what don't you understand about this?

Here's the thing:

Marijuana has legitimate medical uses. That much is scientifically undeniable. It may not cure cancer but it can deal with serious nerve issues in a way other medication usually can't and can do it cheaply and efficiently.

This does NOT mean it should be smoked however you please. A rationed pill can handle the job just fine.

Are you even trying anymore?
And how can I avoid the question if it wasn't asked of me in the first place? You're acting schizophrenic, put the joint down and think with your brain.

But your position isn't that you want to ban substances, it's that weed is bad because retards abuse it and do damage to themselves and society. That's why you also want to ban fast food. Given that position and reasoning, what makes guns any different?

I'm just gonna start copy-pasting my comments and save a lot of time.

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If you want to ban weed and fast food to protect people from themselves, limiting society for the lowest common denominator, then how does that logic not also apply to guns'?

You may as well, because you refuse to accept any answer that isn't "ok you win dude weed lmao is good and non-degenerate please sell me some" and keep posting the same shit over and over.

I reply to my own threads to establish a chain of posts.

I'm continuing my post with an addendum.

I'm specifically talking about substances here lol again you're the one who brought guns into this argument thinking it's an equivalent. Also I'm far more certain the harm these substances have caused to our soceity in the long term outweighs the presumed threat you have about guns.

Give a gun to a normal low-mid IQ guy and he'll probably go to a gun range and shoot it for a while. Give that same guy some heroin, and now you have someone who is dangerous.

Answer the question and I'll stop asking it. I've rephrased it 15 times and gotten 15 avoidals. Is the cognitive dissonance too uncomfortable for you? Any reason you can give for wanting to ban weed because people can't be trusted to use it responsibly also applies to guns.

If you want to ban weed and fast food to protect people from themselves, limiting society for the lowest common denominator, then how does that logic not also apply to guns?

You might as well concede the gun argument and find a new tack, he's got you there. Ignoring it and pretending like he doesn't have your rhetorical balls in a vice is just silly to anyone who can read.

Nah, dude… Weed messes with MK-Ultra conditioning.

That's one of the reasons why it's illegal, because it's harder to brainwash people who are high, because they are constantly questioning things.

kek your cheerleading is offering nothing to this at all.

Again they're not equivalents. You keep saying guns = drugs so why not ban both like it's some ultimate revelation. No they're not the same dipshit, one alters the mental aptitude to do normal tasks, the other is just a piece of metal that fires a projectile.

Man are you stupid. I am not saying guns = drugs, never once have I said that.

Read carefully - If you want to ban weed and fast food to protect people from themselves, limiting society for the lowest common denominator, then how does that logic not also apply to guns?

This isn't Holla Forums, nigger, you can post all that shit in one post, there isn't an arbitrary 20 line limit.


Again, my VPN is retarded and jumps between 3 or 4 IPs but f2c855 is not me. You're thinking everyone against you is the same person.

Do you hear voices in your head?

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Weed alters your perspective, which messes with the carefully arranged propaganda patterns in your brain…

It increases the chances of someone waking up from the mind control.

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I'd give you individual responses if you made individual arguments. Until then, I'm gonna stop wasting my time typing the same shit 15 times over.

If you want to ban weed and fast food to protect people from themselves, limiting society for the lowest common denominator, then how does that logic not also apply to guns?

kek you're the one who can't seem to grasp that there is nuance between the two things.

Wanting my people to be protected from addictive substances =/= taking away people's right to bear arms.

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Alcohol doesn't alter your perspective, it just lowers your inhibitions.

Tobacco does nothing for your perspective.

Caffeine doesn't alter your perspective either.

Cocaine just makes you hyper and feel good.

Acid alters your perspective, but it doesn't really allow the deep self introspection that weed does, its more that it just alters how you physically perceive the world, not so much mentally.

Nice retort… how long were you thinking of that one?

It's a Shakespearean masterpiece, leme tell ya.

Those hot opinions sure convinced me.

It's not just the x% who are full-blown alcoholics. The reliance upon pub culture for socializing and romantic liaison-forming may have a harmful effect on socializing skills and relationship-building. We've come to view alcohol as a necessity for compensating other societal trust-reducers such as diversity. I wonder whether this aspect alone could outweigh the health benefits of 3 glasses of wine per week or whatever is the sweet spot in terms of number of drinks. I seem to remember hearing about research on the harmful effects of pub culture on culture culture but can't find it now, maybe it was mentioned on Convict Report of all places.


Alcohol carries a risk of direct lethality due to either one-time overdose or prolonged/ chronic usage, both of which distinguish it from marijuana. The study OP linked speaks for itself, marijuana can impair brain development in youths, and also fuck up your endocannabinoid system as well as cause panic and other behavior issues that can be problems in & of themselves. And of course there's the argument that it induces malaise on a long-term basis. But if you're (not necessarily (You) but anybody making this argument in general) arguing that the thing which makes you lazy & stupid is actually worse than the thing which can fucking kill you in one sitting, then you would need to articulate that argument in very clear & explicit terms.

Thanks potpol, i'm now literally a potmissile

Finally an answer! So you think the difference is that the right to bear arms is a guaranteed right, so that's what makes it special. Even though the same argument that would ban weed would ban guns.

For the record, I am very pro gun. Shall not be infringed and all that. But for the same reason I am pro-gun, I am also pro-weed. If I thought people were so stupid they couldn't handle drugs then I wouldn't want them around guns either. I full well understand the difference between the two, but if we're arguing the point that weed should be banned to protect fools from themselves, do you see how that also applies to guns?

Why don't people realize that we can use Decriminalization of pot to get all of the pro-gun reforms we want?

I'm talking about repealing the NFA, reforming the importation laws, give us a National Carry license which would nullify any anti-carry laws,allow people to produce moonshine,vodka,and rum for personal consumption,ect.

Throw in Pardons for the non-violent pot heads who have a great prison record,and we could pardon gun owners who broke laws such as Carry restrictions,and violating the NFA.

Inhibitions can have a limiting impact on perspective. Like the way a lot of people have an implicit notion about blacks/ Jews or whatever, which they've been trained to suppress even in their own thoughts by higher education and the media.

Dude weed lmao

Like all things in life, moderation, mindset and health are all key. Smoking weed a few times a month isnt degenerate or bad.

Smoking weed erry day lmao is however degenerate and bad.

Same with all things we label as degenerate, minis all fetishes.

Yes, And alcohol lowers their inhibitions.

Protip: If Trump gets elected, MANY large and small cannabis companies are moving to Canada. I'm not kidding. They don't even understand Trump is the best candidate for cannabis. If some Holla Forumslacks got together they could legitimately take over the industry.

I'm not f2c855, you're asking me to defend someone else's argument. Are the voices making it hard to see IDs?


Why are you still talking about alcohol in a response to a post that has nothing to do with alcohol beyond saying, truthfully, that alcohol vs jewleaf isn't a binary issue where you're either a pothead nigger or a slav-tier alcoholic and nothing but one of those choices?
Even on that, you have to take a metric fuckton of alcohol in that one sitting for that to happen.

I hear childish name calling, but no rebuttal.

I don't see how the argument for stopping one gives the same logic for stopping the other.

One law's intention is to keep the people of my nation sober and clean while the right to bear arms keeps them alert and ready to defend them selves from physical threats. They go hand in hand while the drug induced chimp out chaos you're proposing doesn't

Found the black guy

okay

It's not your nation, it's our nation.

It took you almost an hour to come up with that?


You have to go back, this is not your home.

filthy fucking non-white scum

If you don't want to defend someone else's argument, then make your own.

It's been made clear ITT that adolescents should not smoke weed and that you shouldn't smoke and drive. Past that, what is your argument against adults using weed responsibly?

And the reason people bring up alcohol so much is because it highlights a clear hypocrisy in anti-weed rhetoric. Alcohol is far more addictive, far more harmful, and overall much more damaging to society than weed is. Compare the average alcoholic with the average stoner, for example.


How do you not get what I'm saying? You're arguing against weed, and when pressed for why you feel that way you said it needed to be banned to protect idiots from themselves, same as fast food. Given your own logic (that I don't agree with) then why would you not also ban guns to protect idiots from themselves?

Found the libtard

I already have, you intentionally ignore them and expect them to be repeated because you're too lazy to read. Your argument from the start was "this scientific study is wrong because my feels say so".

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These people still have common sense, that stops them from picking up a gun at the store and going on a rampage. I'm not talking about braindead morons here, just people who aren't mentally equipped to deal with self control so they must be protected.

Do you want me to copypaste my rebuttal for you? Also, are you saying that your argument is that my rebuttal was feels? Tell me where it was feels over reals in there. Was it the part where I said weed is clearly not as addicting as heroin?

Arguing with you guys is like arguing with a fucking stick in the mud. Logic just doesn't affect you. You keep telling me to just go back and look at your arguments, but then you say that your VPN switches you between 3 or 4 IPs, and so you're saying you've been posting with 4 IDs and I'm supposed to guess which ones are you, read through all posts by those IDs, and then respond to them.

Fuck that. Just post your arguments dipshit.

>from the start
Put down the joint and READ nigger. READ. Is that impossible for your jewleaf-addled mind to accomplish? Read and comprehend the words that are on the screen.

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You can take the time to go back through and find all your IDs, but you can't be bothered to copypaste any arguments you made? Fucking pathetic, you're running scared. I'll do the legwork anyway you slippery Jewish bastard. I know you're hoping that I won't, because you know you have no good arguments otherwise you would have just copied them or restated them.

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No arguments. Just insults and shitposts.

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Same here. Insults and shitpost response to other user's arguments.

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Any arguments here? Nope. Insults and shitposts.

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Holy shit. Still nothing.

user you made 40 fucking posts ITT and didn't make a single argument. You did nothing but shit up the thread and destroy any chance for a quality discussion, and every time you were pressed for an argument you refused to, saying you already made one, and that they should stop being lazy and should just go back through your history.

You are worse than any stoner fuckup.

Weed is addictive because the more you smoke it the more your cannabinoid receptors turn "off". Without the stimulation your body doesn't provide nearly enough natural human cannabinoids to do certain daily functions propery, mostly just sleeping, dreaming, and hunger. The withdrawal literally just makes sleeping harder and you won't notice when you need to eat. So basically, its fucking nothing.

anyone?

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Again from the same person whose starting argument was "this article and scientific study is wrong because my feels say so".

Just fucking give it up. I linked every one of your comments. Feel free to tell me which one has an argument.

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Try reading them again. Maybe you'll actually see it if you look a third time. Maybe if your brain wasn't fried from jewleaf usage you wouldn't need to try so many times.

I noticed you gave up trying to "argue" against f2c855 as well. Problem, user?

You are the most slippery bastard I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with. I read every one of your comments, that's why it took me so long to respond. There was no argument. I wanted to find one so I could rip it in half, because if you had a strong one you would have just presented it to me yourself. But it was worse than I thought - I expected you to have some flimsy arguments, but instead there were NONE. Fucking shameful display.

As for f2c855, I got preoccupied with your bullshit. To his credit, though I strongly disagree with him, at least he made an argument and defended it. You have done NOTHING this entire thread but shitpost, and that's all you're doing now. Embarrassing, really.

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This is true in cases of alcoholism, not moderate use of alcohol.

I'm not even saying that marijuana should be banned, just the opposite. I'm saying that people need to stop claiming completely unsupported health claims for marijuana and admit that it is addictive and has the potential to cause long-term health problems because it does.

Nobody is claiming that alcohol

This is all bullshit. When people use arguments like these, former users and teetotalers can see it's obviously bullshit. These types of arguments are harming attempts to get marijuana legalized more than helping it. If marijuana advocates were to admit that it's a bad habit, but overall slightly less harmful than alcohol, and to point out the benefits of regulation as opposed to the clear deficits inherent in the current black market system, it would go a lot farther towards getting it legalized.

Weed is defacto legal in most of the U.S. at this point. Why are you degenerates shitting up the board arguing about it?

It's addicting, it's motivation killing, and it's degenerate. I hope one day you realize what a pathetic human specimen you are, and stop using.

I am speaking from experience, so don't bother brushing this off as some inexperienced kid which you degradingly (hilariously ironic btw) referred to the whole of Holla Forums as.

Does anyone have the dump of like 50 articles that talk about how bad marijuana is?

for a moment i thought that was a 3d printed lower with a smug pepe etched on it. but not i have a great idea lol.

Didn't realize so many Dude Weed Lmaos were on Holla Forums. This is pathetic.

I wonder why popular media pushes weed so hard? OBVIOUSLY they just wanna liberate the people and have them fight back against their oppressive rules right? Weed is obviously a positive thing to have in society right? why else would puppets like lil wayne and snoop dog push it into being cool. Its not like the jews are trying to make a docile cattle like population that has no will to fight against the oppression NO THAT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS KEEP SMOKING THAT STICKY ICKY GANJA BRUDDA 'I AM A SUCCESSFULL BUISNESS MAN WHO SMOKES ONCE A YEAR AND HAS A BILLION DOLLARS TRUST ME GOYIM SMOKE WEED'

Make me feels good, man

You'll never be a stage 10 redpill.

Feeling good is not the natural state of man, good feelings come from hard work and a stable life so by short circuiting that you demotivate yourself into a pit of uselessness and future despair.

That's because lots of folks think diaceytl is tasty in e-cig juice, e.g your cake and fried doughnut and custard flavored juiices, etc.

Weed is still bad for you, this coming from someone that has grown it longer than I haven't. Don't smoke much lately, and it isn't a magical amazing wonder drug except certain preparations work pretty damned good topically for certain cancers, and that has nothing to do with getting high at all.

Just a scientist, and am supporting glycol way more than I am supporting THC inhalation.

This thread = anecdotal evidence.

You don't have any good stories about weed smokers because normal working people that smoke don't bring it into their social life in that stereotypical pothead way. I like to smoke once in awhile after bad days at work. In my profession, I have to stand up for 12-13 hours a day. The first couple of years weren't that bad, but nowadays I ache when I get home. A lot of the time I'll get home at midnight and have to work at 9am the next day for another huge stretch. It helps me sleep.

If I want to use the plant in a reasonable way, where it doesn't affect anyone else, who are you to shame me. I too despise new age hippies and stoners. You don't take an aspirin and say "duuuude im so faded right now".

I'm going to have to go back to the classic point. Alcohol is socially acceptable, and is a white tradition going back centuries. Most people that drink aren't alcoholics. Because they aren't, it doesn't change your life in any way, and is a non-issue. Most people that smoke are the same way.

Hitler himself felt alcohol was degenerate. He respected the tradition though, and his volk's right to partake in it.

You know what else feels good? Freebasing heroin.

Quitting weed was the single best thing I did to get my life on track

I promise you if I kept smoking I would still be an obese degenerate getting high in my parents attic today no matter what else I tried. Weed promotes person instability, poor diet, uneven mental states, and sedentary lifestyles. Its just a waste of time, food, and money.

The only positive thing about weed was that it stopped me from having nightmares, but honestly those are preferable to living that sort of life again.

"If you can't beat em, join em, until you can beat em" - Sub Zero

Happy 420 Don Johnson!

"It's been really hard in this episode. I went so far undercover I had to become like them. My everything seems lost. Only hope is words like Triumph and Will. Nobody believes me anymore." -Don Johnson on Miami Voice set

What's your opinion on weed's non-recreational value?

PRAISE KEK SMOKE WEED BRO LMAO

Nope

Is this better?

Ayyyy

Glad you got better, I went through something similar but not quite the same

That isn't impressive at all

Having some beer with a few friends is fine, getting piss drunk and doing stupid shit is another thing

Pointing to other bad habits isn't good you know?

but dude lmao current year

let the 3rd world invaders pour in lol yolo XDDDD

This is a good thing. Before this 20 year study was out, people who were against pot smoking could only rely on a few relatively smaller scale studies and anecdotal evidence to back them up. This study provides strong ammunition against the usual propaganda that we see almost everyday on television, the internet, and from people we encounter who unquestioningly recite the propaganda that pot is harmless, and the most harm it does to people is make them feel hungrier and eat more shitty food. Even people who don't smoke pot think of it as generally harmless.

The study is completely made invalid because it validates the jewish practice of psychiatry.

Pot smoking is degenerate and signals that you're a massive cuck who can't deal with reality

Every pothead known to man is a lazy, demotivated parasite to the society.

Only think they work for is the legalization of ol' butt hash.

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

We had people like Jung - who shamelessly named the Jude and gave zero fucks.

Ironic really Freud's work is obsolete and archaic where majority work with Jung's work. Like MBTI for example.

This

You all goofed.

I wish I had a loli smug enough for this, so have my best Hitler avatars

Marijuana is relatively harmless in its wild and original state.

Modern cultivated marijuana is extremely dangerous because habitual use causes THC toxicity. It's always been known that like alcohol it fucks up people under 19~26 who don't have fully developed frontal lobes. But THC in high doses without the other cannabanoids that counter the more negative effects of ingesting or inhaling marijuana cause negative long-term effects.

Crack-head who wrote a piece on us here, take my frog avatar.

Except heroin is less degenerate than weed, user. If you get pure heroin and are talented with veins it is negligible to overall health

More like jews poisoned that well, just like they poisoned socialism with their Marxism.

True, the study of human behavior isn't inherently jewish, but doing so within the current subverted framework of study(what this study did) is absolute heresy.

TL;DR field can be salvaged when you stick to Aryan heritage and traditions

Thanks doc

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People under 30 shouldn't be able to use it, imo.

My quaint argument against marijuana while smoked was the following:


It's pretty weak and easily counted by other methods of consumption (eating, private dwellings, etc), but I like objective underpinnings and reasoning to codes of conduct and law.

Although it's true that (((Freud))) founded the field and based almost all of his theories on his (((patients))) and their (((unique))) disorders, this doesn't automatically invalidate the field, especially when most of the field of psychiatry and psychological therapy in general have already moved on past his bullshit.

And as has noted, as long as you are aware to (((their))) influences and disorders, the field can be salvaged and used to promote healthier traditions, as opposed to typical Hebrew-Oedipal machinations.

Its doesn't dull you brain it enables your imagination.

You guys are such faggots. You are cowards afraid of your own conciousness. Yes weed is incompatable with left brain dominant activities but alcohol is incompatable with right brain dominant activities. Your slave masters only need your left brain. They don't need you to think creatively.

If they smoke weed and they browse Holla Forums , your argument kinda defeats itself.

This is your brain on pot.

This. Sagan was smart as hell but to call him "one of the world's greatest astrophysicists" is just plain delusional.

That's just an argument for not allowing marijuana smoking in indoor public places (as you acknowledge) so it's pretty weak.
Also why should second-hand impairing of the mind be worse than second-hand increasing risk of cancer, etc. (marijuana smoke doesn't have the same cancer-causing compounds that are in tobacco smoke)?
Also why mention that alcohol impairs mental faculties only briefly? Just like pot alcohol can impair you for a long or short time depending on the amount consumed, tolerance, weight, etc.
There is really no reasonable objective basis for banning marijuana unless you also ban alcohol.

It certainly doesn't hold up in private places or for methods of consumption that are not smoking.

I would say the mental faculty disruption directly creates an immediate and long-term economic problem - if every is high, certain jobs suffer from reduced quality workforce.

Your liver processes alcohol at about 1 ounce per hour, so you can drink well, go to bed, and be ready to work the next day without its impairment (minus hangover). While pot persists for about a week in one's system (how active it is during that week is unclear though), meaning smoking it could very well still affect your performance the next day or even week.

But then again legalized weed has created booming industry (which is why states are honestly terribly tempted by it lately - tax revenue is incredible). Likewise alcohol's tax revenue is great and the social benefits of happy people is likely worth it.

Me and myself are fine thank you.
And the other me.


:^)

Internet and sugar are even worse regarding addiction.
Not saying that the cancer-creating supplements for sugar are any better
Are there any stats for Internet killing social life? Don't think I need ink or accurate data on it, but social media is by far the worst thing to happen to social life for my generation, and porn for my life.

That said, natural pot is just too tame for me. Gonna hunt for shrooms even today.

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Anyone who sits on their ass all day smoking pot is a fucking degenerate, to be sure. Weed culture is obviously degenerate as fuck.

But don't be fucking stupid, faggots. The WHO and the people who put together this report are in the pocket of big pharma kikes who have a vested interest in keeping pot illegal. Pot does have medicinal uses, and since it can't be controlled/patented by the kikes they want to keep it illegal.

There are thousands of good people who get hooked on big pharma's painkiller opiates every year, and have their lives spiral into addiction as a result. Weed is most definitely a preferable option for a ton of people in this predicament, and yet they're being denied this because some yid wants to make a buck off of them. It's fucking horrible.

So try to have some perspective when it comes to weed as a whole. You can despise potheads and also realize why weed shouldn't carry a jail sentence.

Also OP is a faggot this article and study are from 2 years ago

If you think weed is a good substitute for opiate painkillers, you've never been in severe pain before.

I didn't say it was appropriate for every case. Doctors hand that shit out like candy, that's the point. It's too much.

I think it would also greatly depend on the individual.

Weed == Alcohol

Y'all debating too much.

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Have you posted this in an OP before?

This is called political leverage. The two things would have to be in a single bill.
A national CCL would be unconstitutional. I want full legal carry recognized at the national level without a license.
We could even use the looming threat of global war to arm the citizens.

Why do potheads and every other type of addicted degenerate argue like they belong straight in reddit?

>I only suck my wife's boyfriend's cock smoke once every other month. I mean, I'm not a degenerate after all

Why anyone who has taken the red pill wouldn't seek to free themselves of all vice/Jewish influence and constantly work on self-improvement is beyond me.

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the answer is in the question, user.

It's appropriate for very few cases of pain. It's basically a muscle relaxant and does very little for the majority of types of pain.

If you're talking about substituting marijuana for Tylenol-2 or some weakass shit like that, then yeah, I can agree with that. Tylenol-2 is a worthless drug that doctors throw at people for the placebo effect. Prescription-strength ibuprofen works better than Tylenol-2 or weed in cases where weed works at all.

Anybody who tells you that weed works miracles on their pain probably just likes getting high. What it really does is makes you not care as much that you're in too much pain to do anything other than watch TV. It's probably good for menstrual cramps and tension headaches ("migraines") and minor shit like that, but again, 800 mg. ibuprofen will work better without affecting your ability to think clearly.

You know what else works as a pain reliever? Alcohol. Every western and Civil War movie has a scene where someone gets a bullet dug out of them after drinking a shit-ton of whiskey. But nobody recommends alcohol as a pain reliever any more because the side effects are really bad, it can lead to addiction, and opiates work better with less stress on the body.

I agree that the pharmaceutical companies and the doctors have been making a crapload of money off prescribing opiates and benzodiazepines to people who really don't need them, but that doesn't make opiates a bad treatment. Hell, there was a doctor in the news a while back who prescribed this shit to people and he didn't even have examination rooms in his office; he just had a waiting room and a room with his desk in it. We don't need to get rid of opiates, we need to reel in the pharmaceutical companies and get rid of more bad doctors who are running prescription mills. The government is doing a pretty good job on cracking down on prescription mills, but they're doing nothing to stop the pharmaceutical companies.

Coincidentally, other than some new designer formulations, most opiates are available in generic form and are cheaper than hell. Much cheaper than weed or alcohol. Walgreens carries hydrocodone/acetaminophen 10/325, 120 tablets, for $27.50 retail (no insurance). Compare that to how much it would cost to get high 4 times a day for 30 days straight.

Rationalization: the thread.

It's pretty fucking obvious that potheads can't drop their addiction/habit due the fact it's the only source of pleasure of them.

My life's mission is to fuck those lazy parasites. All of them live off government gibs, some shitty low end jobs or their parents.

Most of them can't cope with reality or their lives, so they opt out. Potheads are spineless cucks that lack inhibition control.

Libtards are cancer and belong to plebbit.

Learn English you retarded potheads

Tut, tut. user. You should've known better.

Cannabis is proven to lower people's cognitive functions.

Those two potheads are living proof of this, don't cha agree?

posts along these lines are why this place is dying

What is the fucking point? This place is so slow. Browsing the catalog takes no time at all. It's passive aggressive and gay.

You take yourselves too seriously

That is also why this place has generated virtually zero memes outside of its own walls. It's funny, there have been several times that I've posted the most popular post from a reddit or 4chan thread here and I'll get like 15 responses of laughing reaction images.

4chan reached (and has maintained) a solid balance of not taking itself seriously. As a result, discussions happen between people with severely divergent philosophies all while a bunch of hilarious shitposting goes on in the background.

4chan seems like a bunch of guys having a good time, shitting each other up and occasionally getting serious.

Holla Forums seems like one guy who is a huge faggot and hates everything but won't even engage anyone in a discussion on why.

It's not fun, and it is the essence of why this place has not accomplished anything and never will.

just thought i'd let you know

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Oh right, I forgot, you guys don't believe in psychologists or psychiatrists. Let me float you another fact that you would like, the hormone oxytocin is considered the hormone that induces trust and love in a person. Guess why women don't make good leaders, on average they have a way higher content of oxytocin than men leading to the conclusion they trust too easily.

Like I give a shit about some study made by goverment/big pharma paid shills. And yes, alkohol will fuck you way more then weed can in worst case scenario.

Everything is killing you, from sunlight to oxygen. 420 blaze it faggot and get over this.

Opinion disregarded. Go LARP as a white somewhere else nigger, the "2 year" lurk obviously didn't work.

To all those saying they were intelligent before weed and think they are now fucked up:
Remember this:
You are here in one of the most obscure corners of the internet
You are intelligent enough to have seen through the lies and broken the conditioning==
Those you think are more intelligent than you are tools of a system that will eat them at some point
Show me a more intelligent group that are not being jewed anywhere in the world
You have not "lost" your intelligence, at most you bent it or put a dent in it
If you had not done so, you would most likely be yet another intelligent bluepill drone
FUCK THAT!

You take yourself too seriously

It's definitely up there. I would say minor intake of caffeine or minor intake of alcohol, aka wine one glass a day is right up there with a joint.

NEWFAG CANCER

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Good. I may be a regular pot smoker, but that does not mean I do not understand it is addictive and long term usage will have negative effects, same goes for the coffee I drink all day, though the effects are different.

So can we now make it legal like alcohol? Though I would like to see yearly "Pothead Cards" so you can go to you potshop, pay for your pot Including Taxes, we tax alcohol I refuse to see Pot not also be taxed. your pot seller can pay the city/county their property taxes, business tax, and associated permit fees.

Same with the rest of these contraband drugs. Push those fucking dealers into the daylight, and allow the addicts to be no worse than the alcoholics. That's what grinds my gears. I want to see my neighbors congratulating Tyrone on getting his 5 year chit from NA.

No shit. blazefags are the most lowbrow, annoying cunts on the planet. lol dude weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddd. Did anyone ever not think pot makes you retarded?

No one said medicinal use is bad you defensive sperglord.

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Thinking all people who smoke are pathetic stoners is like thinking everyone who drinks is a homeless alcoholic. How do people not realize that? A responsible adult can use them the same way - sparingly, to relax after work, usually with friends.

If weed is degenerate, then so is alcohol. You can't have it both ways.

who wudda guessed?

By the way, it seems like nobody noticed:

>archive.is/LVJ74

Duh. It all depends on how young you start smoking, just like drinking. If you start smoking weed at 13 and you live in a trailer park and you think you have nothing else better to do and you smoke a lot then yeah chances are you'll end up with an impaired intellectual development. I knew people with that kind of problem but it was with alcohol, they started drinking at 12.

I started smoking at 20 and I had a ton of other things to do / study / work on.

It looks like another study that blames it all on the substance by using correlations.

>Study's author said: 'If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin'

That's a stupid assertion. There are different types of addictions and the addictiveness of heroin/oxy/etc. has nothing to do with the possible addiction to cannabis. I as an adult could easily become addicted to painkillers if I started taking them regularly for some reason but becoming addicted to weed now? Forget about it. It wouldn't even work even if I tried to become addicted to it.

This is misleading.

Dependency is psychological.

THC has a psychotic effect but CBD has an anti-psychotic effect. So marijuana high in CBD low in THC is good for schizophrenics or those at predisposition for it but high THC low CBD is bad.

Heavy use lowers IQ only temporarily although lasting for months after stopped use and it's only heavy use that does this which actually means 5 blunts per week is what they call heavy in the study i recall.

People driving high on weed are actually more cautious so im sceptical of the doubling.

Degenerate in denial spotted.

Try harder nigger.

…maybe it will also be useful to someone else, who knows?

Pic unrelated

Can we actually see the fucking study? Why the hell would people on Holla Forums believe the daily mail. Are you trusting your enemies purely because it supports your biases

Sugar addiction is Hell. And horribly destructive the body.

Wish I had never started.

Now I am considering going to all sorts of extremes in order to reset away from sugar.

Why do we need the study when we've all these anecdotes in the comments?

ITT faggots, faggots everywhere.

SO BASSICALY THE EXACT SAME RISKS AS DRINKING WHEN YOUNG OR TAKING TO MUCH MULTI VITOMMAANNSS. CRAZY ITS LIKE IF YOUR GROWING UP YOU SHOULDENT DO IT. NUTZ

tl:dr entire thread - got bored with it

most of Holla Forums - smoking is stupid
some of Holla Forums - smoking weed is okay, but not part of a self-improvement regime
some outliers - smoking weed is brilliant (these are the faggots who mislead the gullible)
me - smoking weed causes dain bramage, wish I had never

I spose there's two ways to live life: dreaming of a living fantasy, and living in a reality.
You are free to choose whatever you like, just stay away from me (for your own health…) if you are smoking pot AT ALL.

The only addiction I am proud of anymore, is engaging with pretty women of my own species.
Anything else, and fuck off.

Implying your not a fat basement dweller who only interacts with trannies through Steam.

Jew.

Actually, chaim, still here. You've yet to present your argument, though.

Vols doing 'a good job with people like you.

It takes one to know one.


Oh good lord.


Any stoner ougta recognize this stilted walk.
She looks high as fuck, and trying her best to hide it.
Now I know Hillary's on drugs.

starts @1:50 ish

weed was my gateway drug to the red pill

Then don't allow teens to smoke it, like we don't allow teens to drink. Simple.

Bullshit.

I smoked for 10 years, quit a month ago. I started after I was 18, and it definitely was a mistake, and became a problem when I went to, and dropped out of, college.

If you have above average intelligence, and the opposite of an "addictive personality", you may be able to get away with some occasional pot smoking, but after 10 years of it I'd recommend completely steering clear. For me it was easier to quit than cigarettes or alcohol, which I'm still addicted to, and struggling with.

Also I always drove more carefully when I was stoned as a kid (had 2 minor accidents in my first 3 years of driving, one was me and a guardrail while going around a wet corner, sober; and the other time some jew crashed into me in a parking lot because he was looking down at something in his lap or the passenger seat as he drove straight towards me, also sober), but I can definitely not say the same of a few of my friends at the time. One childhood friend still drives fucking 90 miles an hour whenever possible in his honda with a bubbler sitting in his cupholder. I wouldn't ever get in his car again.

…and I don`t want 911 threads about 9/11 on my way to get comfy and read through this, Holla Forums. I might get all the opinions and facts I need to make me drop for good the herbal jew - and archive.is does not saves the images and/or videos.
Love you, guys.

Don't care,I'd still rather smoke than be a worthless drunk.
Sage for slide thread

You lot are no different to the Marxists who go out to attack right wing folks, the only reason you are right wing is because it is now the counter culture

I'm still pulling myself out of the lazy mess my life had become with weed.

Even if I get all the way out, I'll always desire it.

It's awful.

isnt it obvious everyone reacts differently to substances…
Some people drink and become angry and violent, others happy and carefree. Some people who drink lives fall apart and dont have the willpower to put it down, others drink it on weekends to have fun, some drink a glass or two when they get off work to relax.
I know how weed has effected different people in completely different ways, it all comes down to will power and knowing yourself. If you cant handle alcohol or weed without falling apart, then dont do it. If it causes you to become violent or depressed or crazy, dont do it.