Canaan was the name of a large and prosperous country which corresponds roughly to present-day Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Israel and was also known as Phoenicia. The Canaanite people were highly advanced for their time. They created the first alphabet based writing system, mathematics, ship building and navigation. These people we're so profound the ancient Greeks modeled their gods after them! Canaanites were also very advanced socially. Their women were allowed to represent themselves in legal matters, women were permitted to be priestesses who were equal in status to priests, and a woman could file for her own divorce. This is why Canaan was called the "Land of Milk and Honey".
Later, Joshua (the Founder of Israel) was told by the Jewish god YHVH that the "Promised Land" was actually Canaan. So what did the All-Loving Jehovah command of Joshua? Did their god tell him to live among the natives peacefully? Noooo! That'd be too Jesus-like, and this after all is YHVH - his dad who is also him. Instead, he told Joshua to conquer the Canaanites and take their land, animals, women and young girls as spoils. That ever greedy merchant-deity even promised him:
According to their Jewish account, which we all know we can trust, the Jews conquered Canaan through war. They likely infected the Governments and turned society inside out, just like they have in every other place they've existed. Either way, the Jew conquered the land of Canaan and it was renamed to Israel.
The culture of the Canaanites was immediately destroyed and replaced with the culture of the Jews. The gods Baal and Astarte - main deities of the Canaanites, were transformed into some of the earliest Jewish demons. Mathematics and the trade of ship building was forgotten and replaced with merchants selling garbage to whomever would buy it.
The Land of Milk and Honey had become the Land of War.
This is what happens to you, on a personal level, when you abandon your own heritage and adopt that of the Jew.
I implore you, whether white or nigger or taco bowl: consider that Christianity actually is a tool of the Jew to control the stubborn gentiles. Take one year away from your religious practice, including prayer, and reunite with your own ancestral spiritual tradition. Experiment with it during that time and begin asking yourself why you gave up your:
and replaced them with Jewish:
Has the plot unraveled for you yet, my friends? Through Christianity, Judaism has caused you to replace your own soul with their own. And I'll bet that your people are far greater than the Jewish people. So, it makes no sense. Are you truly that afraid to die?
And here is the plot. They have made you replace your own natural:
with:
It's a very hard redpill to swallow, but for many it will be their first and last.
One frequent line of reasoning of why Israel is greatest ally is because many westerners mislead by their christian faith believe that jews are God's chosen people. However, christianity in of itself is not pro-jew(God wanted the jews to not ever have a homeland and be permanent wanderers, Jesus was against the bankers and pharisees) but it desperately needs reform to survive in a non-cucked state. True christians who are freed from jewish influence, zionist or otherwise, should be regarded as brothers-in-arms in the war against kikes.
Asher Anderson
If your claim was something that holds water, you'd also acknowledge that Paul forbade the Christian jews from imposing jewish practices onto Greeks.
Has the plot unraveled for you yet, my friends? Through Christianity, Judaism has caused you to replace your own soul with their own. And I'll bet that your people are far greater than the Jewish people. So, it makes no sense. Are you truly that afraid to die? And here is the plot. They have made you replace your own natural: with: Nonsense. The latter only exists post 50s or post 1917 in Russia. Finland though? We got it from the genocidal scum known as swedes.
The Greeks you fancy only exist on history books. The real Greeks were just as stupid as they are now, hence why they killed Socrates.
Isaiah Miller
Well written, but it will mostly fall on deaf ears. Off topic, but may I ask why you wrote the word science with a capital 's'? I hope you're not one of those faggots who believe every word from theoretical "physicists".
James Carter
I'd only consider christianity if it become pro-white and pro-white only.
None of this somalian christian bullshit. Whites and whites alone made the religion was it was at the turn of the last century. Cucking it up can't be tolerated anymore.
Nathan Sanders
thank you! and yes. i currently believe this is a simulation and i'm trying to wake up anyone else who might be real here. having a tough time so far tho.
Evan Cruz
that's fair. i'd go right along with that. but how would it work? christianity has a jewish history. you can't take out the history. can you?
Anthony Collins
Haha, wow, kike worshippers never cease to surprise me. So the real Romans were dumb as fuck too?
I don't think you answered my question. Why the capital 's' in science? It just basically mean to discover how things work, it's not a religion or ideology or anything like that.
Isaac Phillips
The kikes really did turn everybody into them… >Why is it that you do not understand what I speaketh? Somalis are mostly Sunni. Ethiopians are the ones who preserved the book of Enoch - untampered one that prophesied Christ.
By the way, OP, Ethiopia kind of ruins your premise, which is I do think that after Solomon it did become kike kingdom, indeed. But it was after he meddled with the forbidden. Blood libel is against God of OT and NT.
Liam Powell
A Letter to the D&C shills of Holla Forums:
Matthew Baker
If Christianity is so weak, Is that why as the west turned secular it grew weak and degenerate?
This "letter" is, besides illogical, use a tone of voice as if it is Christians who are in power now when it is secular liberals dominating the culture.
You are the one encouraging the alienation from our ancestors who turned to the one true God. We remember the tales of our ancestors but we know they are just tales.
You are disrespecting our ancestors and our civilization and encourage people away from their people's religion.
Adam Carter
i used the S to show they were proficient in several different sciences, like astronomy and logic.
Colton Wilson
nice 6s, SATAN! this is my reply and challenge:
name three virtues christianity can grow within a person, transforming them into a better individual, that said person can't develop without christianity?
Austin Johnson
I guess one option would be admitting that the religion was subverted and its message was manipulated by heretics or something.
And also just pointing out that the only people who accelerated the religions development were whites should be enough. Make it so that the other races simply aren't worthy.
Even then that might not work since the sand trilogy is just that, its full of sand people. If you could somehow put a positive focus on the roman legion and maybe spin it into them being the true heirs of the faith… I don't know lads, i'm just a goy
Lucas Watson
blessed be the lord is with us!
Christian Barnes
if its something you want to try out i hope it works for you. turn some of these bad people good.
Levi Taylor
I do not worship talmudists. Just as everybody at all times. Prophets and philosophers are killed.. what does it tell you? The ones who are killed are not the feel-good hippie gurus or the Rousseaus, but Socrates and Zacharias.
Do not disturb my circles.. Brutes will be brutes. I certainly wish we could ascend above them, but alas. Scientific innovations are not done by the majority. Until recently, at least, and it is due to common literacy.
Isaiah Cook
You make a good point. For example, I grew up in a liberal, irreligious single-mother household and yet here I am, a fascist with a strong moral code and a hatred for everything unjust. If anything, having papa jesus in my life instead of my absent father-ness could have turned me into the biggest faggot around.
Logan Price
thanks and im glad you did well for yourself! heres some nazi tits for you!
Brody Barnes
That doesn't make any sense, the easiest example to destroy your statement would be National Socialist Germany. Your argument is also based on assumption that Christianity holds monopoly on morality and strength. Was Europe a weak and degenerate shithole before Christianity came? Not at all, it was right after Christianity that a lot of European soil fell to foreign hordes for the first time in known history.
I know. So, based on the fact that Socrates was killed you think that these "real" Greeks were stupid? What about millions of Europeans killed because they didn't want to convert to Christianity? Greeks made countless achievements in art, technology, warfare etc. Which is infinitely more than what your semitic cult brought with it from the desert.
Dylan Kelly
checked and rekt! great points m8
Jason Cruz
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Henry Ortiz
You didn't address my points so don't expect me to.
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires.
Jace Morales
That's heresy.
John Hernandez
All is manifest from God, and we are His images. The forbidden fruit mankind ate was of Good and Evil. Now, although we have them, they do not manifest by themselves.
Asian countries, for example, are very close to us morally. Yet simply having a different view on the purpose of man, they show levels of cruelty to the animals I find abhorrent. They do feel bad for them, at least initially. You have seen anime, have you not? Christianity is fairly liberal in this sense - good deeds are good and evil deeds are evil, no matter the offender. Christians are simply ordered to be better than others at them, to show God's glory.
Your body is the temple of God.
But I would say that Hope is the Christian virtue, as the Buddhists didn't find it, and I consider them the best alternative if we didn't have Christ.
Dylan Scott
You're not a good Christian then. That is not what is in your holy book. You are a heretical apostate.
Christianity is for race traitors.
Logan Roberts
Christianity is super gay and not cool at all.
You homos are holding this movement back.
Christopher Ross
They invented democracy. They were as stupid as they are today.. socialism, democracy - fallacies. Obviously the Greeks were more successful than most others…
They were "as stupid as today." The modern myth that everything older is worse is bollocks.
Bentley Garcia
i will witness you dubs and reward your get with three virtues christianity may cultivate in a person, for whom otherwise would never have them:
without christianity the dark ages, witch burnings and etc would not have occurred. i dont care if some other thing killed more people. lets clean the dirt on our own faces first.
because of christianity, and only christianity, america considers israel its greatest alley. america is quite literally under the rule of israel. without christianity, us goys would never have agreed to that.
were it not for christianity we would have destroyed israel by now
Easton White
/thread
Nicholas Martin
That's a weird because I don't see any Nazis around anymore besides nerds LARPing on an image board.
All relevant civilization of antiquity comes from the med. All of northern Europeans civilization was during the AD beginning with the Holy Roman Empire.
Nathaniel Evans
From an heroing?
Jose Hall
The truly abhorrent core of Cuckstianity, the notion that a Semite is the center of the universe. That only through modeling one's life after a Semite can one be virtuous.
All Christcucks are race traitors.
Michael Hall
That image is so retarded.
I have never even heard of a state like texas keeping atheists from holding office, either. Also when christfags say they're oppressed they're not talking about themselves, they're talking about christians in shitholes like the middle east and africa.
Leo Turner
nuh uh u r
Blake Hall
lol at the pic. Anyways you don't need to be majority to be immune from persecution. After all look at what the soviet union or should I say communism or any state that wants sole power persecuting majority religion. As for small ones they are invisible.
Ayden Phillips
No, we would be much more hardcore if not for the christ cucks. You're soft and weak due to your desire to be moral faggots.
Benjamin Sanchez
there are serious get happenings itt and youre right about that! i fear the same may happen not with a religion but a race: whites. when we're 10% the population, will they exterminate us?
Leo Sanders
Romans killed druids, and they had very savage ways to do it. You mean because kikes got to tamper with the text? Scofield Bible and all that, not to say the infiltration… You are blaming the host for getting infected. The only ones to blame are the ones who let them in.
Limited perspective. Even more limited perspective. The Son of Man will crush the serpent's head. To see only the man in Christ is central to the kike dogma. A lie starts from oneself.
Yeah, you'd be skinheads that are easy to use (Azov, propaganda). Truly a glorious future…
Easton Morales
OK. The only thing I have to say to yet another DnC religion thread is what the fuck does it matter if you worship "muh kike on a stick", magical tree fairies/ Papa Odin, our Lord Kek, or even fucking Buddha the anorexic gook??? So long as you aren't a Mohammedan or a literal jew So long as you put your race above all else, you should be accepted. Holla Forums is the board of peace and diversity.
Hudson Torres
Pic is fucking epic. Too bad though Islam couldn't finish the job on the Hindus.
Jordan Hernandez
Forgot the last one. Why do you blame others of weakness? Where is the strength you have? What is the heroism you have done?
You are weak.
Jonathan Murphy
thanks for the question user! thank youuuuu
Thomas Green
Yeah, it's getting pretty obvious you don't know anything about Ancient Greece. Their democracy was nothing like what we have today, it was in Athens and didn't last long. Ancient Greeks were also not infested with shitskin genes like they are today, so no, they weren't the same as today's Greeks. I don't even know what's the point that you're making anymore and what has it got to do with Christianity being good or useful in any way, because by your logic, Christianity made people very stupid since they killed so many Europeans.
Julian Robinson
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Gavin Green
you ask me a question and then not only answer it for me, but insult me at the same time? please dont come to my threads if youre just going to get triggered and start insulting people. wwjd?
Levi Thompson
Yes, it was different from what we have now. It was closer to, say, Middle-Age Sweden where your social status gave you the right to vote.
They still voted dumb.
Cameron Flores
Why is it you blame others of weakness? You desire us to be strong (for you). You obsess over it.
Chase Morris
To see anything more than a Semitic cult leader preaching subversion against Roman authority and his own race is delusion. Yeshua was no one more special than the thousands zapped by the superspectrum every year, an alien contactee in an era when such things were taken seriously by idiots. We know now that religious phantoms are no different from reptilian visitors or hairy monsters in the woods. All of the lights in the sky have whispered communistic nonsense into the ears of men, and the weak listen.
There is no getting around the simple fact that Yeshua was nothing more than a mortal Semite and so to worship him as an Indo-European is spiritual betrayal of one's race. No semantics can counter this. Yeshua is not a mystic deity, he had no divinity transcending race. The very idea of spirituality which is divorced from race is antithetical to Indo-European idealism. Blood and soil are the foundation, and Cuckstianity is fully born of foreign blood and foreign soil.
Mason Bennett
By telling kikes to pay their taxes and not revolt against Rome?
Nathaniel Hill
yes. of course! the stronger you are, the more redpilled you are, the stronger i become. and theres a tradeoff: the stronger i become, the stronger you will be if you're also working to become powerful.
Hunter White
He made a jewish money changer pay quadruple to the men he had been cheating. That there is a miracle.
Carson Wilson
I know that many of you hate Renegade for what Kyle and Sinead have done or represent, but there are genuine authors on that site who are not linked to them, yet write on their platform.
There is no reason whatsoever why anyone should avoid reading these articles because they are on Renegade, for their information is spot on :
www.renegadetribune.com/all-christians-are-cucks/
www.renegadetribune.com/christians-cucks-2/
www.renegadetribune.com/christians-cucks-3/
www.renegadetribune.com/christians-cucks-4/
www.renegadetribune.com/christians-cucks-5/
Noah Gray
Are you going to argue any of my points or just make shit up?
Sebastian Reyes
So you are a leech? Why not become us instead and rebuild it as it should be?
Isaiah Jenkins
Sinead, the flat earther, 'crystal trees' woman?
Aiden Williams
a leech? become you instead?
lolno. you see, we who fight the jew are a people. and a people are only as strong as their weakest member. youre unique and important.
David Nguyen
alright im exiting the matrix. ttyl Holla Forums
Dylan Perry
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Christian Smith
Yeah, I'm sure that's because they were degenerate weaklings.
So Europe, aside from the Meds, was nigger tier and magically became advanced because of Jesus? You must be joking, Vikings alone show how advanced Northern Europe was, their ships and navigation techniques were superior and their metallurgy rivaled with that of the Celts, both Nords and Celts had superior steel than Greeks. That's one of the reasons why Romans conquered Norik. But all you know from European history is probably from highschool and Ziowood movies. Try reading something else than Jewish fairytales, it will do you good.
Kayden Powell
Go and try praying and see if he answers your call.
Brandon King
You mean as Cuckstians have made up an entire narrative of civilization beginning in Semitic lands ~12000 years ago instead of the truth of a European origin of civilization ~40,000 years ago? Or how Cuckstians constantly push the narrative that Europeans were savages before the enlightening concept of worshiping a Semite was introduced at the point of the sword? Or how Cuckstians speak proudly of the era of Christendom when it was an era of Europeans enslaved to the interests of rabbis and court jews, even being sent to die for a land which is irrelevant to Europeans?
The entirety of Cuckstianity is built on lies from the most basic lie of Yeshua being anything more than another subversive Semite. All Christcucks are race traitors, and it's always been their treachery which has led to the degradation of Europe.
Ayden Watson
Whoops, didn't want to sage.
Joshua Lewis
Sometimes I think that these "christians" are atheists trying to make us hate christianity.
- Neo-Paganism in the Public Square and Its Relevance to Judaism: archive.is/WxZsU VERY important - It shows what faith Europeans can follow that Jews fear the most
- Kemp on Christianity | The West’s Darkest Hour: archive.is/JEjpF
Joseph Thompson
You mean He. Reported for intl.
Jack Phillips
Reported.
Joshua Baker
Who can say? In the end most of the Germans and other Europeans who fought and died were Christian though.
Just because some of the party elites were playing with neo-pagan bullshit says very little about the real Germany.
Western civilization as we know it is built on the foundations of the Holy roman Empire.
The strange thing about these threads is that they are written from the perspective that the west is still Christian when it is mostly dominated by secular liberals.
By the way, the ones showing the most resilience to POZ has been places like Hungary, Russia and Poland where the churches are still a major force.
Daniel Brown
what the heck are you babbling about
Gavin Moore
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Ayden Jackson
How do we know when we're out of the simulation? Is escaping just being aware of what is a lie?
Andrew Smith
Wew
Brayden Murphy
Christians are massive cowards. Their whole life is based on fear of Hell and not wanting to displease God and wanting peace and happiness. It's so weak it's pathetic.
Happiness is such a shallow and pathetic goal. Just go get a lobotomy and you can be happy. Or go live in a crib wearing diapers and get the government to support you.
Strong and courageous men say: "Bring it on God (if you exist). If you want to punish me for exercising my free will (which you gave to me) then do the worst you can do and I will bear it." Real men seek to accomplish something through strenuous effort and even consider too much happiness a danger.
Jackson Watson
Reported for intl.
Ayden Diaz
No where did I say "sub-Saharan tier." Or any of the bullshit you're saying now.
You're making a straw man, genius.
wait to shit on 2000 years of Christian civilization of your forefathers.
Julian Collins
Thanx!
Jaxon Howard
Doesn't take them long to show their true colors, does it?
Evan Lee
40,000+ years of Indo-European (ARYAN) Tradition > 2,000 years of Semitic slavery.
Brandon Harris
Only someone who doesn't know absolutely anything about the 20th century would maintain the possibility that they were degenerate weaklings. What are you even doing on Holla Forums?
Oh, so real Germany is suppose to be Christian? Christianity isn't European, never was and never will.
Correlation doesn't mean causation, Czech Republic and Baltic states are the least Christian in Europe and they are all pretty resistant to POZ, there is nothing supporting your claim.
That's not entirely true and I don't know what point are you making with this? What is the foundation of HRE than? What has the existence of European civilisation got to do with Christianity? It was Europeans that built Western civilisation, not Semitic religion. Renaissance was rebirth of pre-Christian values and European culture and civilisation flourished like never before in middle ages.
Sebastian Ortiz
Yeah, europe was a continuous culture since even before the ice age? This is just mental.
Facts are western civilization, what amounts to the ruins of Christendom at this point, is what we have today. You're living in an imaginary past.
Zachary Foster
Abrahamic certification is all but required to become a politician in the US, how about you through some stats out on the percentage of non-Cuckstians vs Cuckstians politicians in other countries?
And the foundation of the Roman empire, Grecian states, Egyptian kingdoms, Chinese empire, Vedic kingdoms, and Sumerian states was the pre-Younger Dryas European civilization from which all European cultures were derived. Cuckstianity is irrelevant, and as a pseudo-monotheistic cult it also represents a rejection of the pantheistic spirituality which underlies civilization itself. It is an offshoot of Semitic tribalism and so those who associate with it are nothing more than slaves to Semites. It has been this way since Cuckstians spread their treason by murdering their own kin for the crime of remaining loyal to the faith of our race. Today the most vocal advocates of White Genocide are Cuckstians calling for open borders and reconciliation with Israel, positions which are official policy for every church sect including the Orthodox.
All Christcucks are race traitors, it's as simple as that.
Alexander Jones
I value Christianity for what it was. We may not have evolved to our present state without it. Thanks to the pain and challenges it caused us, we grew stronger and smarter and eventually outgrew it. It's something that belongs in the past now. Now we have new challenges to face and Christianity is only holding us back.
David Mitchell
Your veins aren't fit to carry European blood.
Dylan Lewis
You can be sure about that, Southern Europe wouldn't be mixed with shitskins, Turkey wouldn't exist, and there would be no kike menace.
Jackson Diaz
Hey, you ought to check out the materials on >>>/cucktianity/
I think you'd like it.
Jayden Edwards
1930s Germany was not secular. At any rate, I'm referring specifically to the majority of western Europe which is secular.
To claim Christianity made modern Europe weak is just beyond stupid, it's mean spirited dishonesty just to win an argument rather than look at true problems.
See pic related. The one getting Jewed here is you.
Dylan King
So where did non-Judeo Christianity originate from? Europe?
Mason Kelly
What I was getting at was more like "we wouldn't have rationality and science".
There will always be problems and threats to face, and that is a good thing. Without that we would quickly begin to devolve.
Caleb White
pick one Schlomo because you can't have both you jews will never be Israel no matter how much land you steal
Joshua Hernandez
What? Who is Israel then other than that foul demonic jewish race? Israel is a shitty desert, and its people are equally shit.
Thomas Davis
We had those things long before Semites had even been taught agriculture by Indo-European conquerors. Semitic follies such as the notion of the firmament set back our race's understanding of the world by centuries. The murder of the keepers of the European oral traditions by Cuckstians erased a priceless font of knowledge. It truly is a vile tradition which has done nothing but weaken our race. There would be no Semitic subversion of our leadership and culture if not for Cuckstians, and even today the second most fervent Zionists are those who worship a Semite. There is not a single reason to praise Cuckstianity.
Luis Ortiz
armenia
Jordan Hughes
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Christopher Gray
Is that where Jesus was born? Then it's not where original Christianity originated.
Hudson Reed
100% true. Red Ice just talked about this.
Aaron Scott
Right because Turkey would be part of a larger islamic empire along with a huge chunk of Europe.
There would have been no crusades and no unity between your precious white tribes because everyone would be worshiping a different tree.
Adrian Powell
Friendly reminder.
They are trying to divide Holla Forums with the great religion debate. Right now they are heavily raiding against Christianity.
Ignore the religion d&c shills.
Colton Ramirez
That's exactly what is was. Again proving you know nothing about NSDAP or history in general.
Just to win an argument? Faggot, every single one of your dumb posts was debunked instantly, you don't even make arguments, you make retarded claims based on nothing but your lack of knowledge about anything apart from your jew book. Christianity killed millions of Europeans just because they didn't want to worship a Jew - fact. Christians destroyed numerous art pieces, destroyed tons of knowledge and sought to replace European customs and culture in general with their semitic religion - fact. The only time European lands were conquered and occupied by foreign hordes was after Christianity came - fact. Pope called crusade on Byzantium where crusaders sacked Constantinople and by weakening it, enabled Muslims to conquer it - fact. Catholics didn't offer help to Vlad Tepes who was defending his homeland against the foreign hordes, calling him heretic and demonised him - fact. Christianity divided Europe by denominations which triggered numerous wars, including the 30 Years War - fact. Christianity is Semitic religion, based on Jewish mythology and thus foreign to Europe and European Racial soul - fact.
I'm not bothering with you anymore, so you can stop replying with your pathetic and laughable statements.
Ryan Wilson
You're little story there happened before Christianity even existed
Luke Clark
I'm sure you weren't the very one to make that post specifically so that you could perpetuate this false narrative of a divide and conquer effort. I mean, every post that's made is clearly the truth without the possibility of a layered deception. Sorry shill, but Cuckstianity simply isn't something which can be tolerated by race realists. It's a foreign religion, something which degrades the souls of those it influences. This isn't a raid, this is a population in perpetual rebellion against Semites and race traitors.
Benjamin Hughes
Islam would not exist without Christian scripture.
Mason Fisher
Not in its current form, but they were expecting a prophet, and their religion would be a morph of their polytheism and talmudism rather than Christianity. Muslims can become possessed ISIS, but they don't sacrifice children to appease the devil.
Jayden Moore
Interesting points, but they were obviously much more primitive back then. It was under the influence of Christianity that modern science and technology developed. That's all I'm wanting to give it credit for. Or was it just pure luck that it happened to develop under Christianity instead of prior to it?
Anthony Hughes
My hypothetical is a world in which europe didn't accept christianity, not a world where christianity didn't exist.
The fact is it did and does exist and had the europeans not accepted it you'd probably be typing in squigglies.
Brandon Reyes
Notice I delineated the party from the Germans?
How many Europeans died in WWII?
Yes. Because the degeneracy I see today is secular and born out of militant atheist commies. NOT Christianity.
Triggered much?
Gabriel Wood
oopsi poopsi
Cameron Roberts
Israel is the people of God.
CHRISTIANS are Israel.
"Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." Galatians 3:7. "For they are not all Israel which are of Israel; neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children… but the children of promise are counted for the seed." Romans 9:6-8.
Jeremiah Gomez
Right…
Justin Turner
cuck
Connor Gonzalez
Those who turn from God are no longer the children.
You know what atheists and Pagans have in common with Jews?
They reject Christ.
You become the children of Satan, just like Jews.
Grayson Morgan
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Daniel Cook
Lets pretend for a second that christianity is a religion foreign to Europe.
How many years does it need to occupy the land of europeans and dominate the culture of europeans and be run be europeans and be practiced by europeans and its buildings built by europeans and its doctrines interpreted by europeans before it becomes european?
Daniel Perry
Consider the idea that God is beyond time.
Julian Morgan
This is patently false. Cuckstians are even today suppressing the truth of this world in order to preserve their Semitic narrative. "Flat Earth" would not even be a meme if not for the Cuckstians replacing traditional knowledge with the Semitic concept of the firmament. It took centuries to peel away such falsehood. This is all to say nothing of the suppression of rationality in favor of devotion to a Semitic religion or fringe cases such as the murder of folk healers as devil worshipers. In every regard, Cuckstianity has been a terrible setback for our race.
Cuckstians must attack the truth and spread lies, otherwise the falsehood of their religion and its detrimental impacts will become clear to see.
What do those buildings have to do with the fact that Yeshua was a Semite whose preaching led to the creation of an offshoot of a Semitic religion? This all took place in the homeland of Semites, and entered Europe through subversion and murder. Cuckstianity is a Semitic religion, foreign to European blood and soil. All Christcucks are race traitors.
Race traitor
Isaac Edwards
I don't understand how what you said applies.
Luke Myers
If you're European, all of your ancestors were for close a thousand years were Catholic.
The son of God?
Tyler Brooks
True spirituality is not some kind of materialistic historical thing.
Ian Moore
Then true spirituality can't be determined by where something came from.
Logan King
geographically
Kayden Torres
Right.
Robert Reyes
Only an extreme snowniggering autist come dream up something like this.
Fuck off to hell.
Lucas Robinson
WHITE PEOPLE MADE PISSTIANITY GREAT NOT OPPOSIT
white people were great way before pissitianity even reached roman empire.
Logan Nguyen
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Levi Cox
If I had a son, I'd name him Joshua, or Josue to go Douay-Rheims. No better role model exists. He, almost alone, stayed faithful to the Lord during the Golden Calf incident. He was a fanatic, filled with the sort of fanaticism a leader needs to bring about his vision and found a nation-state.
>this whole thread Israel during the period Christians considered them to be God's people committed genocide on God's orders! Might makes right!
We don't owe any apologies for following God's will. Joshua did NOTHING wrong.
We need to start enforcing these laws.
Ah, Maria lactans. A venerable and properly feminine depiction of Our Lady.
Ryder Bennett
The religion can never be European because the core of the religion is the worship of a mortal Semite as a divine entity. This is both false and anathema to nationalist spirituality. No amount of time will change the race of Yeshua, the race of those who created the religion to which he belonged, nor the race of those to whom he preached. It is impossible for Cuckstianity to be anything other than a Semitic religion.
And before that they were "pagan" for tens of thousands of years. You spit on more ancestors by worshiping a Semite than by rejecting the foreigner. Considering it was those pagan men who were the first to forge civilization from savagery while the misguided Cuckstians tarnished the society into which they were born, I know which group is truly righteous.
No, mortal Semite. The time for believing in Semitic fairy tales has long passed. There is no longer a Cuckstian cultural hegemony able to suppress the truth. We know now that nothing of Cuckstianity is accurate, it is a disgusting foreign cult with a message as subversive as Marxism.
Andrew Wright
But Christianity was always great. Desert Fathers pioneered the monastic tradition, and were mostly not Whites.
Blake Perez
What's wrong with racist white hippies?
Joshua Peterson
when the roman empire collapsed the europeans were no longer abel to keep the aid virus pisstianity suppressed so it took over europe and then the elite simply accepted it.
until then only the middle est was christians and they pissed their pants when europe bacame christians as they feared to be take over from inside through european chrisitan influence.
so half and quarter jews ruling over the middle east at that time decided to create islam against europe.
islams existence is indirectly pisstians fault - especially the catholocs
Parker Bailey
Notice how only kike worshippers use this word. Their Semitic cult brainwashed them into being ashamed of their ancestors. To think that some of these people call themselves Nationalists is mind numbing.
Christian Russell
daily reminder jews hate christianity. christianity is european religion. op is a jewish shill - it is a FACT
Christianity is Not Jewish
1. Jewish Hate of Christianity 2. Differences Between Judaism and Christianity 3. Christians Saying Christianity is Not Jewish 4. Jews Saying Christianity is not Jewish 5. The Jews of Today are not the Jews of the Bible 6. Jewish Infiltration of Christianity 7. Scofield Bible ————————————————————————————————————————————— 1. Jewish Hate of Christianity
A (Zionist) Jew Says 'We Killed Jesus & Proud of It!' youtube.com/watch?v=iASHjjuPhKU ————————————————————————————————————————————— 2. Differences Between Judaism and Christianity
Judiasm and Christianity: The Differences convert.org/Judaism_and_Christianity.html ——————————————————————————————————————- 3. Christians Saying Christianity is Not Jewish
Sorry, obviously I did not mean to imply that Christianity was positively nurturing science and rationality! What I meant was that they developed under its negative influence of suppression and high discipline and so on. Things that make us uncomfortable and put us in a dangerous position often enable us to do things that we'd be too lazy or comfortable to do otherwise.
Why Jews Don't Believe in Jesus aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html ————————————————————————————————————————————— 5. The Jews of Today are not the Jews of the Bible
The Zionist-Created Scofield 'Bible' rense.com/general60/zcre.htm ————————————————————————————————————————————— Last Updated: August 01, 2015
Liam Young
If you believed Jesus was a divine entity would you also believe Christianity is european?
Luke Lewis
That so many people still keep the Faith despite anti-Christian public schools and incessant ridicule in the entertainment media shows just how credible and enduring the True Religion is. Despite the calumnies the more intransigent can still see that it is all true.
Leo Ortiz
wat
Nathaniel Gonzalez
If you believed you can fly, would you jump off a cliff?
Josiah Reyes
If i believed i could fly? Yeah I probably would.
Easton Hughes
christianity is jewish
its literally a jewish sect rejecting the teaching of the old testament. jesus calls himself the messiah like its called in the jewish prophecy for the messiah to come. the god is the same abrahamic god +1/3 jesus. christians believe in adam and eva to be the first people.
jews rejecting christianity does not make chrsitianity a non-jewish sect.
and could you please keep your post more on conversational level instead of blind cluster spamming?
Benjamin Watson
hmmmmmmmmmm
Jaxson Roberts
Cuckstianity is only growing in non-white nations. In European nations, men have awoken to the truth and reject the Semitic religion in greater and greater numbers.
No, he'd then be a Semitic deity and the religion would still be Semitic.
Carter Perry
LOL butthurt Mongolian. ÖSTERLAND not FINLAND ok. praise carolus
Jackson Ward
sorry you are wrong. you have facts there with sources. time to get redpilled friendo
Nathan Wright
Pagan: You seem to have good judgment in other matters and to be loyal to Our people. I trust you and can work with you to defeat a common enemy.
Deist: You seem to have good judgement in other matters and to be loyal to Our people. I trust you and can work with you to defeat a common enemy.
Atheist: You seem to have good judgement in other matters and to be loyal to Our people. I trust you and can work with you to defeat a common enemy.
Christian: There is something inherently flawed in you that only Christianity can fix and you have rejected Christianity. Get yourself behind me, Satan!
Joseph Scott
christians dont disbelieve in the old testament to happened (thats why its part of the christaian bible). what the christains do is saying the messiah was jesus and therefore the old testament is outdated and the new word of jesus is the valid one.
the most important fact is that under chrsitainity all white people turned slowly into beta male salves. in fact because jews compiled the talmud in 2 and 5 century they were able to infiltrate europe easily. most likely the jews were kicked out a country and settled to the next one and that helped to spread the m through europe.
also jews were able to acquire wealth and create the banking system so they ended up the the global players while europeans ended up as working slaves.
btw a jew can also be christian (or muslim) if he converts to christianity. and this is what makes christains so ignorant, they think jews are not a race. many of jews in israel are orthodox christians from russia. and thats also the major reason why christianity is not compatible with Holla Forums
Logan Barnes
You are actually proving Christianity right, my shilling friend.
Because you are basically saying that Canaan turned degenerate (rich, decadent and feminist) and a more religious and warlike people took it over.
The same way the jews lost their land and turned into decaying satanists, and the same way that we are being attacked now: Punishment for degeneracy.
Jaxon Young
This. Christianity needs reform, and parts of the Bible that include pro-white (or anti-multiculturalism), anti-Jewish themes need to be highlighted.
William Carter
I recently checked out /christian/ and you fucks were doing it again promoting this idea that you could 'subvert the kikes' and 'make the jews good again' like you have this fantasy they can be your friends or at some point in history werent the enemy of all men the worst part about christians I find is your lying and your capacity for doublethink
Brandon Cooper
hahahaha start reforming by having an own non semitic religion
if you preach to a jewish god and a jewish messiah. you can not reform the bible. you also can not reform the quran. the quran and the bible are about being multicultural social viruses bound to a formation of a state.
how can you reform things like "jesus loves all people". if you say jesus loves only white people than its contradicting jesus word. and why it has to be a semitic god and a semitic book coming from the middle east? why not compile a religion bound to DNA? if you have sand nigger genetics then you automatically drop out and will be executed.
the only reason someone want to stick with sand nigger religions is because he himself would fail the DNA test!
Grayson Cox
this sort of shit only comes from trailer trash whites
Dylan Taylor
bump
Austin Ramirez
nice try kike, did your shill thread get saged to bottom of catalog?
Benjamin Jenkins
Please read the bible and see what the canaans really did, then you'll understand gods judgement. You're selling canaan to us like it was heavon on earth, it was quite the opposite, though.
Also it was not what you call the jewish heritage which damaged the land of israel, it was in fact their whoring with the nations around them and bringing in their gods and habits which leads to them breaking the covenant with their god and therefore god leaving them. This is well documented in the books of kings (and i think book of judges as well) of Israel.
What you did is taking the whole thing out of context and looking on it from another perspective which is completely unfunded. Name me some sources if you disagree. I bet the only ones you can find are antichristian in some way and not historic at all.
How about you taking away for some time your own ancestral spiritual tradition and ask the lord Jesus Christ to open your eyes and show you his truth instead of pushing this nonsense to everyone else? I promise you, you won't regret it because the real truth will set you free, and that is Jesus Christ.
Don't fall for the false religions and it's teachers, stick with the real one god and be part of his eternal kingdom!
BTW. I Went through a lot of different pagan, spiritual, mystic, occult and even other monotheistic religions as well. I can confirm them from my very own experience to all be false and evil. None of them will bring any enlightenment upon you and none of them will save you.
Galatians 5 20-24 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
This is the truth, don't fall the redpill garbage. Morpheus is a false prophet. God bless.
Aiden Gonzalez
Yeah no.
Adrian Taylor
I said recently not within the last hour or so it was about a week back, a shill thread isnt concerning by itself what concerned me was the number of replies entertaining the idea
Hudson Watson
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Alexander Kelly
SHILL FOUND
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Isaac Hernandez
Canaan is a made up name, the people who originally ruled that land are completely gone , weakened by the sea people invasions the jews killed them all the only name I know it by us Upper Retenu because thats what the Egyptians called it when they owned it that region used to be fertile salt marsh but was made barren by millennium of improper farming and war the entirety of the Levant and Syria was a warzone on and off for about 400 years between the Hittite Empire and the Egyptian Kingdom the land trampled to dust under the hooves of thousands of war chariots the bastards burned Ursalim and built their Jerusalem amongst the ashes
ill check the catalog then shall I
Thomas Campbell
Even as a Christian, I wouldn't mind seeing a return to original unpozzed anti-Jewish Christianity, with core tenants of older, more brutal and aggressive belief systems included to protect it from any future infiltration and weakening and instead guide us to the stars.
However, the big problems that are occurring now, the infighting, D&C, the fake pope triggering everyone in and out of the faith and the massive betrayal of European White people all over the world, is that it's all part of the plan to bring actual Devil worship to the world - something that should always be considered part of our enemy's endgame, as according to this following text:
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
The source is here:
threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
I'm curious that in all five times I've posted this so far over the past months in these types of threads, it had no respondants at all for it from anyone.
Eli Ortiz
no u
Isaac Carter
Baal/El was worshipped in Scotland and Ireland.
I think you're a bit confused tbh, but if you keep on going you'll find more.
Phoenicians also sacrificed their first-born.
HOW PWOGWESSIFF!!!
Ayden Ross
Genesis 10 15-20 And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth, And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
According to Genesis, this was right after the flood, so it's most likely that the land wasn't inhabited before they arrived there. That's the historical proof I can offer, what's yours?
Ian Garcia
nearly all of those are made up names Amorites existed because the Hittites and Egyptians wrote about buying their loyalty and using them as a buffer state against each other Amurru was between Ugarit and Egypt and was probably somewhere in the Sinai region of Egypt Jebusite is the name the jews gave to the white non-hurrian residents of the Levant the city of Ursalim renamed Jerusalem after the jews sacked it was a Jebusite city guarded by a Hurrian clan that had sworn fealty to the Pharaoh of Egypt none of this was after the flood, this all happened in the 11th century BC shortly after the bronze age collapse had occurred and destroyed the economies of the four ancient great empires of Hatti, Egypt, Babylon and Assyria the new testament has some historical basis but the entirety of the old testament is lies concocted by jews while they were Nebuchadnezzar's prisoners in Babylon between 597 BC and roughly 550 BC
Levi Sanchez
But on which facts do you build all of those claims? Any documents or whatsoever?
Otherwise my historical proof will easily debunk that because:
There were no jews at this point of time because jews are the offspring of Judah who wasn't even born yet.
There wasn't any Jerusalem at this point of time as well
Please provide some sources.
Robert Sanders
Do you have any particular reason to think everything in the old testament is a lie? I think it's more rational (and widely accepted) that some scripture was handed down from before the Babylonian captivity and also that all of this was based firmly within the ongoing oral history of the Jews, not fabricated on the spot in the span of a generation.
By the way, a great deal of the OT is about events post-captivity. Are you actually familiar with the document?
Brandon Garcia
The very basis of cuckstianity is pozzed, born a sinner, to reform it is to get rid of it. As for anyone saying there's good, ethics and morals existed before it came along.
Tyler Adams
If you believe this you're too stupid to live.
Logan Hughes
always nice to paste youtube link related to threads like this
this video is pretty much /thread to most of these threads.
Dominic James
What the fuck? Are you saying that semites one day just cropped out of the ground because some semite called Judah was born? What's wrong with you? Kikes existed as a people for a long time and their recurring subversion was not alien to many ancient civilizations.
Or are you one of these kosher fags that claims "oh yeah, all we need to do is dismantle jewish religion and culture, then they will be alright"?
Genesis is literally a kike-ified version of the Epic of Gilgamesh you think kikes can come up with anything on their own? the flood myth and the garden of eden are plagarized from Sumer heres a little excerpt this was written on stone tablets and is at least 1000 years older than even the very first references of the jews
Jayden Barnes
Sorry, but really it's not. Genesis is a massive book and the flood story is just a small part of it, but you are right in pointing out the many parallels within that limited scope. The Epic of Gilgamesh is very much shorter and the flood story is only one part of it, as well. The rest of both are completely different.
That still doesn't answer my question though, which is what particular reason you have to dismiss not just Genesis (or a couple chapters of it), but the entire OT as fabricated and not based or influenced by anything whatsoever that really happened. Is that really a historian's approach?
Hunter Bell
this, they're essentially syncreticists, hence freemasonry. though freemasons seem to stand more in line with the Phoencian lineage than the Jews tbh.
Gavin Nguyen
jews pretty much steal everything they can get. they even stole the german language and called it "yiddish"!
even albert einstein stole his theory form 3 european sicentists.
what jews do is copying successful systems from everywhere and adjusting them so they can benefit of it.
i think its possible that jews have stolen several religions and part of religions and implemented them into the bible to make it "theirs"
Gavin Butler
there is very little left of Sumer thats why you cant draw many parallels because they no longer exist by the time Alexander conquered Persia Sumerian was almost a dead language and had been the sacred lingua franca of Mesopotamia for 2000 years already, like what Latin was to the courts of Medieval Europe Sumerian was to the ancient city states of the middle east its isnt give me a myth from the old testament and ill tell you where the kikes stole it from the Tower of Babel story is literally just kikes trying to rationalise Babylon and the Etemenanki the sky shrine to Enlil, the Etemenanki was the tallest structure in Babylon and the jews would have been in awe of it add that to the jews not being able to understand the 'many tongues of babylon' since Babylon was the capital of a multi ethnic multi religious empire at the time and they were used to living in their monoethnic city states of israel and judah and most of their dealings with foreigners was bribing them to not conquer them
Luke Bennett
oh most definitely Yahweh isnt even native to the Levant, archaeologists traced it back to a minor god in Ugarit and before that into Arabia minor Yahweh is a north arabian war god given patronage by the jewish elites that developed into a monotheistic cult they imposed on the rest of their tribe
Juan Edwards
How is a book on ECONOMICS and ATHEISM in that list of religious shit?
Or you're pne of them "baldness is a hair color"-retards?
David Bell
they're all written by jews is what hes getting at
Jason Martinez
Can you seriously fuck off, no one cares I'm not even Religious, I just think trying to constantly go on about religion is avoiding the real issues at hand Yes the churches are cucked as hell but it's obvious they're not following their own book except maybe the evangelicals who's book was edited by Jews
Elijah Reed
Have you ever heard of the term ethnogenesis? Just one example, the Mongol's ethnogenesis happened because of Genghis. Before him, there were the same old genes around there of course, but the ethnogenesis sort of led to a cultural phenomenon and, in the long run, a new ethnic and self-contained genetic group emerged.
When you talk about "jews" do you really have a good understanding of the timeline of their ethnogenesis? Before the split of the southern kingdom into the kingdom of judah, there was no such people group. And further, the larger nation of Israel started with Abraham. If you want to talk about the OLD Babylonian Empire (Hammurabi's line, not the Chaldean one), that empire rose and fell long before there was a jewish or a (biblical) israeli people.
Now the Neo-Babylonian Empire (the later one that ended up annexed by the Achaemenids) DID invade Judah and displaced them, but don't confuse that with the original, pre-Greek-dark-age empire. There was no Israeli identity or religion whatsoever in those times.
And one last note, the "Jews" of TODAY are yet another group. In fact, I assert that the ethnogenesis of today's Jews was not complete until sometime after AD 70. That is when the Rabbis (Pharisees) took over everything, packed their bags and went back to Babylon (again). Today's Jews are all descendants of the Pharisees, a sect of (biblical) Jews, who were at that time post-Maccabean, referred to in the NT, and properly known as, the "Synagogue of Satan" according to Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9.
Now to get to the main point, I guess. A huge chunk of the OT is post-captivity as I have said before. Obviously those parts of the OT weren't stolen. But as for the pre-captivity part of the narrative, many of our glimpses into the ancient past come only from the OT and not any other source. Unless you want to start believing the Talmud or something. You know, that book claiming Romans killed 40 million Jews during Bar Kokhba in the 130's AD. Now there is a book we can agree is pure fabrication based on nothing but Rabinnical whims.
Almost all historians agree that the bible is a historical document. There are thousands of manuscripts and other documents, which confirm it's authenticity. So what?
We didn't talk about semites at all but about jews. Judah was born by Leah. Genesis 35 22-23 And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father's concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve: The sons of Leah; Reuben, Jacob's firstborn, and Simeon, and Levi, and Judah, and Issachar, and Zebulun:
I don't know what you're talking about.
I assume by kikes you're referring to jews. No they didn't exist before Judah. That's nonsense.
I honestly don't know what you're talking about. What are you referring to by jewish culture? Is it the nowaday judean culture? Because Jesus calls it out like this: Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
The greentext you posted there isn't proof in any way because:
On which proofs do you found that claim? How do you date a stone tablet?
There were many different stories of the flood because the witnesses told it to their offspring and they told it to theirs and so on. Like this you'll get many differencies in those stories.
Genesis pretty much debunks your claims, all you say is Genesis is fake.
People, read the bible and don't waste your time with the false teachings of fallen angels. They're not giving you anything. You kind of want to believe in this whole jewish (offspring of Judah) conspiracy but you have no evidence to support this. Don't confuse the jews with the synagogue of satan. It's all exposed in the book of revelation.
Jonathan Price
faggot
Camden Perry
Christian "evidence" that Jesus isn't a stinking kike
Jonathan Jones
Always thought Marx was german. Why they are everywhere.
Jose Edwards
israelites/jews whatever you want to fucking call them their name is just semantics they're a northeastern semitic tribe that moved from southern Assyria to the Levant during a period of unrest and collapse across Mesopotamia and took advantage of the situation like the opportunists they are to steal Egypt's abandoned northern territories Abraham didnt exist and israel has always been a shitty little city state they barely extended their borders even before the Assyrians conquered them and gave them autonomous rule in their empire in return for many shekels I'm not I know the original Babylonian empire was formed under Hammurabbi 1300 years prior the birth of Nebuchednezzar its nice but you are literally just stuck in a loop thinking this they're all the same, their practices may have become altered via the differentiation into different sects but all jewish sects are the same shit with slight variations and they all descend from the original kikes snd their preists that adopted Yahweh as their god the OT is not used by any mainstream historian or archaeologist for anything they tried using it for centuries as a basis to find ancient ruins and it didnt work the only reliable historical way of understanding the ancient past is to piece together whats left from Hittite, Egyptian and the few Assyrian and Akkadian sources left because these people embellished far less than the jews, the Hittites are the best sources because they were meticulous bureaucrats like the Romans and kept records on everything but the largest sources we have are Egyptian who'd you trust more? a kike source or the words of the men who believed to tell a lie in any sense meant a monster in the afterlife would eat their heart and they'd wander in darkness for all eternity
Gavin Wright
It's hilarious how the torah, bible, and whatever other Abrahamic text is nothing more than a jewish self-signed confession note of stealing and genocide against peoples. The kikes go on and on about Israel being originally theirs when in their own book it admits they holocausted the Canaanites and stole their land to begin with. Evil little rats.
Xavier Mitchell
Jesus also was a rabbi. And he often referred as rabbi by his 12 jew-friends. Of course he was white european. Now listen his great morals and turn another cheek when jews slap you, goyim.
Daniel Murphy
He didn't call the Jews the synagogue of satan but those who call themselve jews but aren't. Rev 3:9
What you're referring to is this verse i guess: John 8 39-47 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
You should read the whole chapter to understand it better. This isn't against jews but against everyone who seeks justice by works instead of justice by grace.
Christopher Garcia
Marx is distantly related to the Baron Rothschild the one who petitioned William of Orange to create the first bank of england and set up all our banking woes for the next 3 centuries
Adrian Russell
And now they worship their own anuses instead! Truly an enlightened bunch, no correlation between the demise of christianity and the increasingly vicious decadence of our western civilisation.
David Brown
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John Williams
Lies, stopped reading there.
Leo Jenkins
No it's not. Jews are offspring of Judah and Israelites are offspring of Israel. Jews are therefore Israelites but not vice versa.
Prove it.
Prove it.
Proof it.
Again you have no proof for this.
Funny, we could use that against you.
they tried using it for centuries as a basis to find ancient ruins and it didnt work the only reliable historical way of understanding the ancient past is to piece together whats left from Hittite, Egyptian and the few Assyrian and Akkadian sources left because these people embellished far less than the jews, the Hittites are the best sources because they were meticulous bureaucrats like the Romans and kept records on everything but the largest sources we have are Egyptian Please, provide us your sources.
I trust in Jesus Christ only. I believe the Bible is 100 % accurate and no one here was able to disprove it yet.
Jayden Price
How hard is it to believe the following:
There was a normal civilization, "ethnicity A", not much better or worse than others. And then some actual kikes, the original kikes came up with a bunch of false myths that made them masters of everyone living there. Eventually, their actions led to the destruction of the host culture, and in the aftermath the kikes literally stole the name of "ethnicity A"?
It's been 2000 years. That's plenty of time to develop/evolve dysgenic and parasitic genetics of your own to replicate the kike degeneracy we all observe and acknowledge today. Oh but no, you say 2000 years is too sudden, that couldn't possibly be what happened. You say the origin of kikes would have to be 3000 years ago. Because 2000 years isn't long enough for it to happen. And there is no chance a parasitic subclade of kikes (pharisees) could have existed within a larger community either.
Get educated, please. You clearly haven't spent much time investigating these issues or the Bible directly. This is not a defense of anyone's semitic ancient civilization. I'm rather trying to prevent you from being fooled like most people are, into thinking today's "jew" has any legitimacy in that title. Anything Rabbinical is the source of kikery, and it led to an entire warped people group, still here today who claim the title of "jew," which was actually an ancient people who the kikes made to be destroyed by Romans in the first two centuries. Since then, only kikes have claimed the title.
We need to at least understand that much. How far fetched is it to realize that over the course of 2000 years the pharisees created their own twisted bloodline and have since made up any history they want, whatever is most convenient for them? I am saying they didn't even write the bible, they pilfered it and falsely take credit for writing it today. You are giving the synagogue too much credit, as a matter of fact.
Kayden Evans
utter rubbish marxism was the replacement for islam and christianity jews, muslims, christians, communists etc reject each other yet they are all the same
the only thing to warship is 卐
Andrew King
Jesus is still a lying Jew with a wrinkled cut dick
Bentley Moore
He's 100% on the mark, while you, aren't.
Brayden Turner
Nope Romans sacked the jews when it was needed the Romans didnt even annihilate the punics of Carthage properly and they Hated them they couldnt care less about kikes and kike problems unless it interrupted the flow of goods from east to west and the tax collection
then you're a goddamned fool and a weak link in the chain trust your kosher version of history and live in ignorant bliss why dont you
yeah Sumer had sails and ships, the constellations in the sky are universally used by every primitive people to navigate, mathematics arose independently across the world in different forms from the higher more advanced cultures and the first alphabet as we know it was Egyptian which is where the Phoenicians got it who passed it on to the Greeks on one hand that developed into the European alphabets excluding runic ones whereas the non-cuneiform using semites copied Phoenician and developed their semitic scripts like hebrew and arabic
Michael Lee
that's what brought us into this mess you dipshit
Alexander Adams
what happened was the trolling JIDF got out of hand and real Christian faggots moved in thinking they were welcome
Jose Morris
Holla Forums has always been a christian board, newfag, just as natsoc was
Charles Bailey
dumping more redpils for the newfags
Nathaniel Roberts
natsoc wasn't neccessarily about believing in God, it's about believing in the fuhrer. satanists and destructive religions should still be gassed though.
Ayden Gray
Nothing. What is curious is who his target audience on pol is supposed to be that such a vacuous response is supposed to sway them.
Hudson Parker
tl;dr
Jayden Smith
no it never was!!
>>>/christian/ always was a christian board.
only because you claim Holla Forums to be christain it doesnt mean it is.
this building were build by white people with money stolen by the church. christianity is majorly about paying money to the church so they can use it for brainwash and spread of pisstianity.
Easton Morales
They started some kind of kike rebellion for the third time and got the Roman boot so far up their ass, the entire city of Jerusalem was racially purged and forcefully kept that way ever since. I'm not saying that is a good or bad thing, but that's how it happened. It happened because the kikes started a revolt (again). The only survivors of that were a few fanatical kikes who congealed together again in Babylon, Iraq and started writing the Talmud. I am saying that reunion in Babylon is the ultimate origin of ALL of today's Jews.
Sure, they were still a powerful sect before that. But before that, there were also non-kikes who called themselves Jews and who would have gassed/stoned the kikes at any time if they didn't pull the usual kike tricks.
Camden Sullivan
oh great, another wave of anti christian jew shills
how does being abandoned feel, golems?
Nolan Barnes
Yep, 15%
Matthew Hill
And here is how Holla Forums handles the most retarded shitposting.
Owen Ramirez
it wasnt racially purged the jews barricaded themselves in their temple and a section of the city and started murdering goyim but the Romans didnt racially purge the jews the second time the temple burned was because the kikes started slitting the throats of the captured Roman legionaries the commander told the soldiers not to harm the temple because he intended to gut the innards of the temple and raise a huge statue of Jupiter in the temples inner sanctum as an eternal reminder to the kikes not to challenge Rome instead some pissed off Roman soldiers burnt the whole temple down and massacred a tonne of kikes for murdering their brothers in arms on their knees Before Christianity and Islam the jews were the bottom feeders of the world
Landon Wilson
Either way it's funny how they claimed Phoenician civilization as "ancient jews". Morocco, Turkey Libya, Tunisia and Algeria can claim similar thing in theory. It's like saying pyramids were built by niggers or something.
Easton Foster
Address the points presented, shoot them down, blow off of "shill," "d&c" doesn't work.
Jayden Martinez
same guy changes his ip 3 times to make it look like as if there are 3 people. its getting ridiculous.
Brayden Bennett
fuck off you lying faggot you're the newfag because the Christian meme on pol only started about a year ago faggot kike worshipping loser cunt
Jason Gray
except they cant Phoenicians colonised places like the Greeks did with small populations and coastal settlements only Cyrene is a good example of a Greek colony, literally the city of affluent white greek traders surrounded by nig nog native libyan tribes and berbers Carthage was the same as was Qart Hadasht in Spain look at Egyptian hieratic script m8 you'll see the resemblance
Joseph Morales
Lol, faggot. Now I know you're not from around here.
Carson Howard
daily reminder Christ is the last stand against Nazism
Dylan Foster
Bruh, I already mentioned Bar Kokhba and said third time. Not talking about 70 AD, that was just the first round.
After Bar Kokhba the Romans turned Jerusalem into some kind of meditaryan paradise with no jews, or christians that were ethnically jewish allowed. I can't say I blame them either.
This seems to suggest you didn't read my comment. I was talking only about the pharisees. And how they were parasites back in the day. Did you actually think kikes could run an actual civilization on any level? They never have. The only thing they ever wrote was the Talmud, the biggest joke since the "sanhedrin" fairy tale.
Brody Carter
Dejavu of destroying the holohoax with reams of info only to get bullshit responses like yours in return.
Christian Cruz
Pfffft. Can you get anymore new, dumbass?
Eli Peterson
ID:3c1e49 - SHILL probably a jew or a shit skin christian
Jordan Richardson
Yes, christcuckery stands in the way of replacing it with White ethnic identity and traditions.
Oliver Sanchez
But he's kinda right. Stuff not related to Trump is considered sliding on /nu-pol/.
Austin Mitchell
You're both retarded.
Asher Sanchez
Pick one
Ryder Walker
they have though i wouldnt consider it civilization historically when jews owned a city or land they sit on it and farm shekels somehow and try and steer clear of trouble, theres an excerpt in the Talmud where they write that an Assyrian army attacked Jerusalem in the 7th century and they say an angel/elohim came from heaven and burned all 1, 250, 000 Assyrians to death for them they found the conflicting account not too long ago that states an Assyrian general by the name of Tukulti i think laid siege to Jerusalem with about 20,000 soldiers and instead of fighting or submitting the jews/whateveryoucallthem paid a huge ransom of gold and precious stones to Tukulti to turn his army away which he did then some annual tribute was worked out and the jews survived like the roaches they are but yeah goddamned jewish lies even as far back as then
Josiah Russell
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika So which of those false religions that picked this symbol do you want to worship? In the end they're all false.
Are you a liar by being a Jew What lies can you find in him? Did you ever lie? I don't need an answer actually because you did. So you, as a liar, call out the only one on earth who overcame sin and therefore didn't lie. You should think about this. John 14:6 I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Why are you acting like a fool? Do you think comments like that will improve your credibility? This edgyness won't help you either in a rational discussion nor in the day of his return. And I pray for you that you won't have to be one of those who will go through the judgement but be righteous in gods grace. Repent brother.
Let's see what the bible tells us about fools: Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Not a "kosher version of history", whatever that's supposed to be, but the Lord Jesus Christ in which we are all saved and can have a personal relation with him. No serious historian will stand by your side with your claims and every follower of Christ will confirm his relation with Jesus and that it is real. If you are in doubt why don't you actually speak to god and ask him to reveal himself to you? You won't take any of your history books with you once you die. All your hope is in Jesus Christ. Let God save you and experience him!
Caleb Robinson
On topic: I've seen christcucks try to explain away luke 14 26, they failed, there is no way around what it says.
Michael Lee
heh get a load of this kikel
Jose Robinson
the only guy you've got on your side is Pastor Frank and the westboro baptist church cretin
Elijah Morales
Also on topic: You're a loser.
Owen Watson
another redpill bomb incoming
Asher Ramirez
Putting the kikes aside, it sounds to me like they had fallen to a proto-Marxism already.
Connor James
More on topic: catholic church is being paid 10 million a year to fly in shitskins into America. They justify destroying Whites saying the future of cuckstianity is africa and china.
Aaron Collins
you guys noticed? christains lost the discussions and started to derail the topic with: -anime pictures -spam -shitposts -posts without any content on topic -provocations
Xavier Diaz
We are already 10% of the global population.
Christopher Brown
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Only a Jew or another degenerate is this comfortable with being this emasculated.
Ryder Watson
They never ever had a discussion. Before anime it was 100% fedora.jpg spam.
Gabriel Collins
What's the matter, loser? Can't handle the bantz? You're a pussy. A big, fat, pussy.
Asher Cruz
you are not white christians are multicultural. (((jesus))) loves all people
Carter Myers
It does though. Schlomo, since when were you under the impression that Holla Forums was staunchly against genocide?
Hudson Kelly
more on topic: christcucks have been the key component in the population explosion of the turd world, doing so since just before the beginning of the 20th century, "for only a dollar a day."
Brody Rodriguez
The fuck does that have to do with what I just said. And yes I'm white, fucking kike.
Lincoln Allen
The Torah, Talmud, Bible, Quran, and Book of Mormon might as well all be renamed The Big Book of Jewish Crimes.
I mean, just read it. Some Jew having incestuous pedophilic sex with two of his underaged daughters in a cave, some Jew goes collecting foreskins from penises like some kind of psychopathic deviant, a bunch of Jews causing multiple genocides and Holocausts against various peoples, some Jew causing the very first murders ever, all Jews advocating for slavery, some Jew unleashes unspeakable horrors and literally ruined the world. It just goes on and on. The only good Jew was Jesus and even then Jews in the Talmud admit they murdered him.
David Wilson
thanks for admitting you pushed degenerate atheism before too, aschlomo
William Rivera
Too late. I am the narrative. And you're desperately trying to run away from knowing you're a failure. An absolute failure. Failure.
Henry Torres
I don't think that user was a shill m8.
Hunter Reyes
Another LARPagan thread
Connor Bell
he bumped a shill thread prim8
Gavin Edwards
Excuse me, the topic was about your claims. I haven't seen any proofs for them yet.
Jace Collins
You're fucking crap at this.
You have to go back in the oven
Not quite done yet.
Caleb Hall
an then the christians started to burn all people they called "heretics" alive! pure loving jesus christ likes it if you start burning "witches" or cats.
what about the torture of scientist? earth not flat? time slit your stomach and mutilate you until you admit earth to be flat.
Sebastian Flores
That verse easy to explain. But you need to finish reading the explanation and read a few more verses beyond to get it.
This is the full statement, and now read the explanation:
In other words, hating your family and even your own life, means facing the cold reality that nothing you ever do will be enough (without Christ).
He explains how anyone who ignores the fact you can't live a perfect life is like a man who starts building a tower without enough supplies. He will be mocked in the end because he didn't make a real talk assessment of what he could actually do first, but just started working on it anyway.
The point of that verse is: ONLY people who make that kind of realization about their entire lives are ready. That they can never live a perfect life and they shouldn't just try anyway, or live a lie knowing they can't do it. Only when you get past that, are you ready to be disciples and bear the cross with Christ.
Chase Bailey
sure you are. the best thing is on the internet you are white, pink, blue at the same time and you are smart.
but in reality you look like poo and your heard is filled with even more poo.
Hunter Campbell
Mainstream christianity is pozzed but so is every other mainstream institution. That doesn't mean you should attack pro-white christians.
Luis Clark
sage and report
do not reply to religious bait threads do not reply to religious bait posters
Jackson Ward
wew, must be a Tuesday
Grayson Richardson
where in the bible you can find words of jesus christianity to be pro white?
there is not such thing like pro white christianity. re-read the bible. bible and quran itself forbids dual beliefs.
just by assumption you are not a shill and say things like "pro white christianity" you are either really really naive or you dont understand biblical scripture.
Benjamin Russell
Jesus was a Jew. And not just by accident of birth, if you want to call it that, but an observant Jew.
You mean during the Enlightenment, when the West pulled out ahead of everyone so far that it stopped being a contest?
You need to learn history.
Justin Ross
Stopped reading right there. No wonder it fell.
Brandon Kelly
Very true. They have fought hard to make our nations shittier as well with their opposition to abortion.
Henry Mitchell
You're seeing what you want to see, it's not saying that at all.
Connor Fisher
You gave one of his lies a few sentences later:
If Jesus actually existed, he was another religious charlatan.
Evan Thomas
jesus also referred to some non jews as gentiles. its all in the bible.
Xavier Sanders
How is it a lie?
Why do you think that?
John Perry
How do you think America worked before the boomers and 1960s poz session?
There is this omnipresent concept in the Bible called nations, and nowhere does it say nations can be intermixed or destroyed, as the anti-whites are working toward doing now. That genocidal urge is all coming from the secularist movement, fomented by marxist kikes who had come from Eastern Europe and earned their title by refusing to draw a cross on a piece of paper.
American Christianity didn't follow the kike/humanist secular narrative, about class warfare and class struggle, like they treacherously do now. For most of our history we had a clean, segregated society in the south, and a near pure germanic stock everywhere else and it was explicitly known to be good and it was meant to be that way until the 1965 immigration reform. And even that late on, the only way they got it past was by tricking a bunch of idiots into thinking the immigration reform wouldn't change the ethnic roots of the country.
This is largely the result of Christians and false prophets being taught that "jews" of today are not kikes and that they are to be trusted, along with a decadent, feel-good, hippy outlook. Where does Christianity come in to that? It doesn't. The eugenics movement started here. We still imprisoned homos as late as the 1950s. In earlier times they would face the death penalty if caught.
How exactly is that greater (pre-1963) history pozzed due to Christianity? Because that's the time period when the ideology played a greater role– no moron could deny that fact. I think America accomplished a lot of good in those times.
jej
Ryder Perry
Daily reminder that Christendom was composed of ethnically homogeneous states for millennia. If this kumbaya multi-kulti version of Christianity that you seem to think is real were true, then how the fuck would Greece, Poland, Germany, Britain, hell, all of Europe, still exist as lily-white ethno-states up until the (((Twentieth Century)))? If your claims were true, they would have been cucked long ago, but they fucking weren't. You blame Christianity, or really a version of it that didn't exist before 1900, for ruining Europe. But everyone here knows exactly (((who is at fault))).
Also, if Christianity is a kiked religion, why do the kikes spend so much time subverting it? Why did kikes campaign to get prayer out of public schools, to popularize atheism, to champion separation of church and state?
I'll answer that for you: because a Church on Sunday with every pew filled is the perfect enemy to Jewry. Real Christianity has no affinity for the kike, and vice versa. I have never seen a kike campaign against paganism, and it should be obvious why: paganism is a personal and disorganized religion. Christendom is the opposite.
Just look at Europe in the 1300s. Who do you think passed those usury laws that kept Jews penniless and wandering? Who do you think allowed and even endorsed pogroms to keep Jews out of towns? Oh yeah, the Church.
The kike saw, correctly, that his enemy was the Church, so he subverted it. You are looking at a subverted, kiked, 20th century perversion of Christianity and saying "I don't like that." Well no shit, none of us do. But if you expect me to believe even for a second that the Crusades, the Reconquista, the Thirty Years War, the usury laws, and pogroms are examples of a kiked religion, well just go read a fucking history textbook.
Christianity has a long history of conquest. Orthodox Byzantium conquered Roman lands that had been invaded by the pagans, Christian Rome still expanded its borders until it was felled by pagan invaders, and Christian Europe was locked in endless combat and conquest with the Saracens.
If you hold strength and honor in such high esteem, and if you claim to be a fascist, then you would know that peace is a stupid goal. We don't want peace, we want conquest. So if Canaan was a land of war, and Christian Europe was a land of war, good. War is the spirit of a man.
Jonathan Gomez
Froghurt, is this you?
Anthony Bennett
They are running out of options.
In fairness, they are far from being the worst posters on Holla Forums. The big issue is that their belief system is so detrimental to whites, and frankly humanity at large.
The position of the Christians on Holla Forums would be something like pro-feminists coming on here and saying that feminism is what made the West great, and that the only other option would be to act like Muslim niggers giving women clitoridectomies.
Connor Fisher
What is recorded in the Bible is Jewish lies.
Fact is that Israelites were not slaves in Egypt. They were rulers. They had their own dynasty, and ruled from the city of Avaris (hence the word for greed avarice). But of course, Jews Jewed too much, and they got kicked out. They made up a story about slavery and a long journey to gin up sympathy from others. They were the ones who caused the Bronze Age collapse. People literally had to flee to the mountains to avoid their raiding parties coming from the seas.
Fact is the Jews WERE the canaanites, also known as the Phoenicians, also known as the Sea People. The alphabet they created was the same as ancient Hebrew. They are just called different languages based on where they were discovered.
And the Greeks did not model their fucking gods after them either.
Jews are to this day polytheistic. They only worship yahweh in public, but in private they worship Moloch (the brazen bull/golden calf). Every part of the Bible calling for a human sacrifice, they are making sacrifices to Moloch.
Also, Ba'al isn't a name. It's a title. It means "Lord" in English. Many Gods in the region had that title, including Moloch (but not Yahweh).
Luke Foster
Byzantium(Rome) taking Roman lands from pagans is conquest? I think you need another example.
Cameron Ramirez
So that means you can't believe in Christianity and multiculturalism, right?
Noah Flores
Because travel and migration options were severely limited. You could ask the same question about China, which obviously wasn't Christian.
What we do know is that the Church fought racism and racial awareness quite hard. What happened with the Spanish is a good example.
The Church did not want the Muslims driven out of the Iberian peninsula or even discriminated against, but converted to Christianity. The people felt otherwise, and the popes fought them for decades until a Spanish pope came in and approved Limpieza de Sangre.
>>>/cucktianity/81
Evan Clark
pretty much this but I disagree that Christian posters aren't the worst they're almost identical to JIDF in that they pretend to be from here and try to get you to follow a Jewish ideology
Liam Morales
Schizophrenia is inherently a jewish trait, and so are the ideas stemming from schizophrenia too.
Nathaniel Scott
And then OP conveniently omits that jews have persecuted and slaughtered Christians for hundreds of years, have parts of their talmud dedicated to describing how Jesus and Christians are in hell boiling in pots of urine, excrement and semen, that jews do not recognize the Bible from OT to NT, and Christians have expelled jews hundreds of times as well as hunted them down through the Inquisition.
Pic very much related.
Luis Evans
Interesting read but the infographic is nigger tier.
It's a shame more Holla Forumspacks have not accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. What is your source of morality, exactly. A bunch of dead gods? Academia? When you're ready to settle down with a good woman and raise a big family of well adjusted children maybe then you'll figure it out.
Jacob Miller
all that matters now faggot is that Christianity is subservient to Judaism
Aaron Morris
Christianity arose as the first and only ideology devoted to ending Jewish ethnocentrism. And at the same time, the Bible is filled with mentions of nations, and never once declares that all nations should be intermixed and bred together. That's the furthest thing from a Jewish ideology.
Willingly eschewing organized religion in favor of "muh personal spirituality" not only reeks of liberal thought, but also allows kikes to waltz in subvert. Without organized thought, you have nothing.
Caleb Flores
you don't know who I am faggot
Ethan Peterson
Except Christianity did. It made something out of nothing, whereas feminism, being Leftist jewish destructiveness, turns something back into nothing.
Did you know that you have Christendom to thank for European law and even our science? The foundation for the scientific method was laid by a friar who believed the pursuit of knowledge is what helps us to be closer to God.
Camden Perez
You're the cancerous faggot claiming that Christianity is jewish, when it clearly isn't. Jews have subverted Christianity after warring against it for hundreds of years.
Start gassing yourself anytime.
Sebastian Gonzalez
Kill yourself, shill.
Ayden Robinson
that's why everything in "the west" is jewified you dipshit
I'm not claiming Christianity is Jewish it is
Tyler Brown
All this is literally the 'muh kike on a stick' maymay from Something Awful in a new wrapper.
Report all shit goons.
Chase Adams
don't you love Jesus like the gay faggot he is
Owen Rivera
something awful didn't invent Jesus did by the fact he is a kike you stinking Jew-loving asswipe
Benjamin Allen
There is no 'judeo-Christianity', there is only Christendom.
Just the mention of 'judeo-Christianity' is rubbing salt in the wounds of Christendom, as it now lumps Christians together with the very manhunters and executioners they suffered under for hundreds of years.
If that were so then the jews wouldn't have had to spend decades getting rid of Christianity and implementing Leftism, now would they?
Reported for goon raid.
William Reyes
Are you talking about the Hyksos in Egypt? You realize the bronze age collapse was 400 years after that? And if you can prove right now the Phoenicians were the sea peoples, you could probably win some kind of nobel prize for that.
You realize the Phoenicians are the ones who founded colonies on Cyprus, Sicily, Sardinia, Ibiza, Iberia, and North Africa, including Carthage? You think that was Israel or Jews?
I'm afraid I'm gonna need about a billion citations for this post.
Logan Stewart
huehuehue
Andrew Russell
fuck yourself faggot
Carson Davis
Pre-Christian Western civilization was hardly nothing, it was by many measures the most advanced on the planet.
This is the game you guys play. If people who were Christians did something positive, it is due to Christianity. While that is crazy in and of itself, you guys take it one step further. Without hesitation, someone will mention crazy shit that the Pope did or Catholics did, and your response will be
So they are Christian when it is convenient for you, non-Christian when they aren't.
Mason Price
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Christopher Hughes
I can only imagine the absolute torture going on in your little goy brains as you slowly comprehend that you've been Jewed by the biggest lying kike to ever exist
Benjamin Adams
Plus some recent studies show that the Phoenecians were a Mediterranean people closest to Southern Europeans.
Honestly, I wonder what they get out of it. I understand the need for spirituality, but there is a lot to choose from out there.
The one area where Christians probably do best is helping people who are really fucked up on drugs and maybe other addictions. That's not even because their teachings are so good, but because there are churches everywhere, and many Christians are really kind to anyone they think they can "save."
Blake Cox
Daily reminder that nearly every soldier who fought and died for the Third Reich was Christian. Still kike shills?
Its leadership might have been ambivalent or antagonistic to Christianity, but its citizenry sure as hell wasn't. Germany never would have become pagan again, and I'm sure Hitler and Goebbels knew it.
Adrian Davis
how do you think the jews ended up owning the media, money and education?
a lot of blablablabla and in the end the jew owns everything and you sit with niggers together in the trees. btw the constitution is not based on christianity nor on christian values, therefore americans have the freedom of religion protected by amendment. so the thing that prevented americans from intermixing was not the bible! it was they themselves but the worst thing is that the bible does not advocate the physical extermination of jews. jews were well tolerated inside of usa.
example: for last 500 years g.w. bush has 3 ancestors with the name ISRAEL
usa is full of jews who call themselves christians and judeo-christians. so where is your christianity now?
yes! because multiculturalism is compatible with christianity!
Owen Harris
Thanks for the discussion to the guys i spoke in this thread. I think I said everything, tried to explain a few things to you from a biblical view and debunk some of the false claims. I'll leave this thread now because the same claims keep getting repeated by others and there's nothing more to say. God bless all of you. Just one more verse for those of you who don't want to hear. Matthew 10 12-15 And when ye come into an house, salute it. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Josiah Brown
"falling" for examining christcuckery, d&c for pointing out the truth, christcucks destroying from the inside like a traitor is on par to indeed worse than jews.
Austin Baker
Yes.
Yes. The Jews did, in fact, survive being run out of Egypt. Their evil tradition has survived a very long time, and has been called by many names.
Seems pretty obvious that the major seafaring civilization that conquered the Mediterranean coast was the major seafaring civilization that conquered the Mediterranean Coast.
Carthage sacrificed children in the brazen bull. Yes, Carthage was Jews. That is why Rome destroyed them so absolutely and totally. They never did that with any other place they conquered. Jews existed throughout the Roman Empire–likely descendants of those early "settlers" around those other colonies.
The fact that they used the same language and had basically the same religion, culture, and destructive practices should be enough evidence.
This is why Northern Europeans find Southern Europeans distasteful. Modern Italians are not the same as the Romans, just like modern Greeks are not like the Ancient Greeks.
Robert Butler
How are we supposed to reunite with something that disappeared 2000 years ago? Are you telling an American to LARP as a fucking Odinist? Brah. Even for a Norwegian that would be pretty fucking artificial at this point.
Isaiah Thomas
there was also a bunch of muslims fighting for hitler. time to convert to islam and preach to the same semitic kike god this time called allah.
Grayson Carter
Sounds p degenerate tbqh, fam.
Going to sacrifice a virgin to a Semitic demon god now. Thanks, fam!
Leo Hernandez
Reminder that there are no Christians on Holla Forums. There are only heretics on Holla Forums.
In that case you'd better not fucking go off about "muh heritage!" and "muh old gods!" if you think it's so acceptable to just create them or poach them. Christianity might as well be Europeans poaching a god from others as well, so I hope you won't complain about a "foreign" religion.
Sounds like fucking shit. No wonder they died out. Go shill for feminism somewhere else.
A) I don't give a shit about feminists being conquered, much less by ambiguous and questionably extant ancient Hebrews. B) Conquering is part of life. The only time I have a problem with it is when it detriments me or mine. As none of this has any relevance at all to that, I don't give a shit.
Hmm. What was that I was reading before? Oh, right: So it's okay to abandon your heritage sometimes, as long as you like the gods, right?
So the Old Testament says Canaan was conquered therefore Christianity is a tool of the Jew. Why didn't I see it before?
Wait, but what if I like the foreign gods more? You implied it was okay to throw away tradition. I'm getting mixed messages here. And what about the religions of my ancestors before the one you are supposedly referring to? Do you honestly believe there is one, definitive, "ancestral spiritual tradition" of anyone?
Fuck off, hedonist.
A) The paganism to which you are presumably referring is fucking dead, nigger. There's not even any sort of recoverable tradition from it. B) What makes the tradition of my ancestors since they had civilization less worthwhile than the vague tradition they had for a brief time before it?
You're just throwing whatever shit you like at the wall to see what sticks, aren't you? I haven't anywhere seen a coherent argument or a consistent point. Whatever you're trying to shill (because honestly at this point I could believe you're just here to make pagans look retarded) you're failing.
All in all, shit thread (as are all religious threads these days), and I rate it 0/10. Go fuck yourself, OP, since I know how much you like autofellatio.
Elijah Wright
(nice trips)
This, pretty much every Christcuck post can be summed up like this.
Ryder Ramirez
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Jackson Richardson
So you don't know what you're talking about. That's a relief of sorts. Well let me correct the record here for you.
The Phoenicians and Greeks were rivals and both of them colonized up and down the Mediterranean coast. One Phoenician colony was actually in Morocco on the Atlantic coast, by the way. There is no singular "the major seafaring civilization" in this picture. There were at least two at the top (if you combine the Greek city-states and Phoenician city-states respectively) and likely many more who maybe weren't at the level of setting up permanent colonies and sending their people out there to live.
The Sea Peoples is basically a filler element used by modern historians for whoever was responsible for burning down and enslaving cities along the eastern mediterranean, and apparently share some responsibility for the dark age of 1200-1100 BC. The Sea Peoples operated in that area only and the raiding by them occurred at a time before any colonization had reached outside of the immediate Aegean/Cyprus area. There is absolutely no reason to necessitate that The Sea Peoples were anything close to an entire civilization, they could be just a bunch of organized naval raiders who chimped out around the Levant coasts for a half century.
Nathaniel Lee
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Joshua Rivera
Makes more sense then telling a European to LARP as Jews
Noah Rivera
work 6 days a week. be careful to not to acquire any bigger wealth and love your enemy. also always forgive and whenever something bad happens to you its satans fault. and if its not satans fault then god is testing you because god knows everything therefore he needs to test you.
Cooper Nguyen
And their opponents weren't?
Charles Wright
I'll never understand the term 'larpagan', how are you larping your ancestors if you are your ancestors, it's our racial religion. If anything, it's a lot of Christcucks here that larp as Jews, kek.
Alexander Howard
Reported for intl.
Joshua Fisher
D&C will answer every question you have about why anyone on this board acts like a retard in the name of religion.
Blake Hughes
Reported for intl.
Aiden Cook
Reported for intl.
David Clark
Reported for intl.
Brayden Reed
Reported for intl.
Joseph Wood
Reported for intl.
Lucas Diaz
Reported for intl.
Ayden Mitchell
Reported for spamming.
Isaac Garcia
Reported for intl.
Daniel Turner
Reported for being annoying spambot.
Jason Hughes
Reported for intl.
David Sullivan
Reported for intl.
Lincoln Edwards
Reported for intl.
Jordan Morgan
Reported for intl.
Cooper Brown
Reported for intl.
Charles Anderson
Bumping for sage bot.
Ethan Thompson
sage
Connor Parker
Reported for bumping a spam thread.
Xavier Campbell
Reported for intl. It’s really pretty simple, chaim.
What made our ancestors great was their altruism tempered by their faith and their duty. Today we have mocked and forbidden faith for the masses, and duty has become something to be cursed. Our Christian forebears did not allow for evil in their societies and protected their families and nations as all honorable men should. More than this, where they saw evil they sought to destroy it; where they saw ignorance they brought the light of knowledge; when they found the lesser races fumbling in the dirt and serving the whims of demons, they gave them the true faith of Jesus Christ–they set up schools and gave them the rule of law. They kept themselves pure and defended what they believed to be important to the death. They brought their glory to the rest of the world and made the places they touched better. And even when their representatives did ill, the ideology of the mission was that it should be righteous. Of course, not all men were benevolent and altruistic, but their cause was, and the mindset of the nation was that righteousness be done. It is similar to how just a decade ago the US had to convince everyone their war was ‘just’. It, of course, was not, but society still demanded that things be fought for righteousness. This has all but disappeared today as we devolve into hatred–a consequence of forsaking God and embracing demonic concepts like ‘tolerance’ and ‘diversity’ in places once pure. Christendom shall rice once more. Every night I pray that God will have mercy on we few good men left in the West. That He will spare us, and for our piety redeem our nations. That He will cast out the jew, the muslim, the pagan, and the traitor. That He will give us the words and power to show them the light of Christ. And that when they have become our brothers they will return whence they came and bring Christianity to these spiritually barren places. Let Christianity rise once more. Let the world see that faith in God is rewarded, that redemption is ever-achievable for he who humbles himself before the Lord. It has happened many times before, but I pray that once more the world will bear witness to God’s glory, that the faith of a few will bring salvation to the many. Let the end not come in our day, let us be the last reminder to a doomed world–a final example of God’s mercy and power. One last revival of Christendom, then let it end. Have mercy on us, Father, and let the whole world see your power and tremble!
Chase Martinez
My interest in medieval science was substantially sparked by one book. Way back in 1991, when I was an impoverished and often starving post-graduate student at the University of Tasmania, I found a copy of Robert T. Gunther's Astrolabes of the World–598 folio pages of meticulously catalogued Islamic, Medieval, and Renaissance astrolabes with photos, diagrams, star lists, and a wealth of other information. I found it, appropriately and not coincidentally, in Michael Sprod’s Astrolabe Books, up the stairs in one of the beautiful old sandstone warehouses that line Salamanca Place on Hobart’s waterfront. Unfortunately, the book cost $200, which at that stage was the equivalent to what I lived on for a month. But Michael was used to selling books to poverty-stricken students, so I went without lunch, put down a deposit of $10, and came back weekly for several months to pay off as much as I could afford and eventually got to take it home, wrapped in brown paper in a way that only Hobart bookshops seem to bother with anymore. There are few pleasures greater than finally getting your hands on a book you’ve been wanting to own and read for a long time. I had another experience of that particular pleasure when I received my copy of James Hannam’s God’s Philosophers: How the Medieval World Laid the Foundations of Modern Science a couple of weeks ago. For years I’ve been toying with the idea of creating a website on medieval science and technology to bring the recent research on the subject to a more general audience and to counter the biased myths about it being a Dark Age of irrational superstition. Thankfully I can now cross that off my to do list, because Hannam’s superb book has done the job for me and in fine style.
The Christian Dark Age and Other Hysterical Myths One of the occupational hazards of being an atheist and secular humanist who hangs around on discussion boards is to encounter a staggering level of historical illiteracy. I like to console myself that many of the people on such boards have come to their atheism via the study of science and so, even if they are quite learned in things like geology and biology, usually have a grasp of history stunted at about high school level. I generally do this because the alternative is to admit that the average person’s grasp of history and how history is studied is so utterly feeble as to be totally depressing. So, alongside the regular airings of the hoary old myth that the Bible was collated at the Council of Nicea, the tedious internet-based “Jesus never existed!” nonsense, or otherwise intelligent people spouting pseudo historical claims that would make even Dan Brown snort in derision, the myth that the Catholic Church caused the Dark Ages and the Medieval Period was a scientific wasteland is regularly wheeled, creaking, into the sunlight for another trundle around the arena. The myth goes that the Greeks and Romans were wise and rational types who loved science and were on the brink of doing all kinds of marvelous things (inventing full-scale steam engines is one example that is usually, rather fancifully, invoked) until Christianity came along. Christianity then banned all learning and rational thought and ushered in the Dark Ages. Then an iron-fisted theocracy, backed by a Gestapo-style Inquisition, prevented any science or questioning inquiry from happening until Leonardo da Vinci invented intelligence and the wondrous Renaissance saved us all from Medieval darkness. The online manifestations of this curiously quaint but seemingly indefatigable idea range from the touchingly clumsy to the utterly shocking, but it remains one of those things that “everybody knows” and permeates modern culture. About once every 3-4 months on forums like richarddawkins.net we get some discussion where someone invokes the old “Conflict Thesis.” That evolves into the usual ritual kicking of the Middle Ages as a benighted intellectual wasteland where humanity was shackled to superstition and oppressed by cackling minions of the Evil Old Catholic Church. The hoary standards are brought out on cue. Giordiano Bruno is presented as a wise and noble martyr for science instead of the irritating mystical New Age kook he actually was. Hypatia is presented as another such martyr and the mythical Christian destruction of the Great Library of Alexandria is spoken of in hushed tones, despite both these ideas being totally untrue. The Galileo Affair is ushered in as evidence of a brave scientist standing up to the unscientific obscurantism of the Church, despite that case being as much about science as it was about Scripture.
Luis Jackson
And, almost without fail, someone digs up a graphic (see below), which I have come to dub The Most Wrong Thing On the Internet Ever, and to flourish it triumphantly as though it is proof of something other than the fact that most people are utterly ignorant of history and unable to see that something called “Scientific Advancement” can’t be measured, let alone plotted on a graph.
It’s not hard to kick this nonsense to pieces, especially since the people presenting it know next to nothing about history and have simply picked up these strange ideas from websites and popular books. The assertions collapse as soon as you hit them with hard evidence. I love to totally stump these propagators by asking them to present me with the name of one–just one–scientist burned, persecuted, or oppressed for their science in the Middle Ages. They always fail to come up with any. They usually try to crowbar Galileo back into the Middle Ages, which is amusing considering he was a contemporary of Descartes. When asked why they have failed to produce any such scientists given the Church was apparently so busily oppressing them, they often resort to claiming that the Evil Old Church did such a good job of oppression that everyone was too scared to practice science. By the time I produce a laundry list of medieval scientists–like Albertus Magnus, Robert Grosseteste, Roger Bacon, John Peckham, Duns Scotus, Thomas Bradwardine, Walter Burley, William Heytesbury, Richard Swineshead, John Dumbleton, Richard of Wallingford, Nicholas Oresme, Jean Buridan, and Nicholas of Cusa–and ask why these men were happily pursuing science in the Middle Ages without molestation from the Church, my opponents usually scratch their heads in puzzlement at what just went wrong.
The Origin of the Myths How the myths that led to the creation of The Most Wrong Thing On the Internet Ever is well documented in several recent books on the the history of science. But Hannam wisely tackles it in the opening pages of his book, since it would be likely to form the basis for many general readers to be suspicious of the idea of a Medieval foundation for modern science. A festering melange of Enlightenment bigotry, Protestant papism-bashing, French anti-clericism, and Classicist snobbery have all combined to make the Medieval period a by-word for backwardness, superstition and primitivism, and the opposite of everything the average person associates with science and reason. Hannam sketches how polemicists like Thomas Huxley, John William Draper, and Andrew Dickson White, all with their own anti-Christian axes to grind, managed to shape the still current idea that the Middle Ages was devoid of science and reason. And how it was not until real historians bothered to question the polemicists through the work of early pioneers in the field like Pierre Duhem, Lynn Thorndike, and the author of my astrolabe book, Robert T. Gunther, that the distortions of the axe-grinders began to be corrected by proper, unbiased research. That work has now been completed by the current crop of modern historians of science like David C. Lindberg, Ronald Numbers, and Edward Grant.
Jayden Miller
In the academic sphere, at least, the “Conflict Thesis” of a historical war between science and theology has been long since overturned. It is very odd that so many of my fellow atheists cling so desperately to a long-dead position that was only ever upheld by amateur Nineteenth Century polemicists and not the careful research of recent, objective, peer-reviewed historians. This is strange behavior for people who like to label themselves “rationalists.” Speaking of rationalism, the critical factor that the myths obscure is precisely how rational intellectual inquiry in the Middle Ages was. While writers like Charles Freeman continue to lumber along, claiming that Christianity killed the use of reason, the fact is that thanks to Clement of Alexandria and Augustine's encouragement of the use of pagan philosophy, and Boethius’ translations of works of logic by Aristotle and others, rational inquiry was one intellectual jewel that survived the catastrophic collapse of the Western Roman Empire and was preserved through the so-called Dark Ages. Edward Grant’s superb God and Reason in the Middle Ages details this with characteristic vigor, but Hannam gives a good summary of this key element in his first four chapters. What makes Hannam's version of the story more accessible than Grant’s is the way he tells it though the lives of key people of the time–Gerbert of Aurillac, Anselm, Abelard, William of Conches, Adelard of Bath, etc. Some reviewers of Hannam’s book seem to have found this approach a little distracting, since the sheer volume of names and mini-biographies could make it feel like we are learning a small amount about a vast number of people. But given the breadth of Hannam’s subject, this is fairly inevitable and the semi-biographical approach is certainly more accessible than a stodgy abstract analysis of the evolution of medieval thought. Hannam also gives an excellent precis of the Twelfth Century Renaissance which, contrary to popular perception and to “the Myth”, was the real period in which ancient learning flooded back into western Europe. Far from being resisted by the Church, it was churchmen who sought this knowledge out among the Muslims and Jews of Spain and Sicily. And far from being resisted or banned by the Church, it was embraced and formed the basis of the syllabus in that other great Medieval contribution to the world: the universities that were starting to appear across Christendom.
God and Reason The enshrining of reason at the heart of inquiry, combined with the influx of “new” Greek and Arabic learning, launched a veritable explosion of intellectual activity in Europe from the Twelfth Century onwards. It was as though the sudden stimulus of new perspectives and new ways of looking at the world fell on the fertile soil of a Europe that was, for the first time in centuries, relatively peaceful, prosperous, outward-looking, and genuinely curious. This is not to say that more conservative and reactionary forces did not have misgivings about some of the new areas of inquiry, especially in relation to how philosophy and speculation about the natural world and the cosmos could affect accepted theology. Hannam is careful not to pretend that there was no resistance to the flowering of the new thinking and inquiry but, unlike the perpetuators of “the Myth”, he gives that resistance due consideration rather than pretending it was the whole story. In fact, the conservatives and reactionaries’ efforts were usually rear-guard actions and were in almost every case totally unsuccessful in curtailing the inevitable flood of ideas that began to flow from the universities. Once it began, it was effectively unstoppable. In fact, some of the efforts by the theologians to put some limits on what could and could not be accepted via the “new learning” actually had the effect of stimulating inquiry rather than constricting it. The Condemnations of 1277 attempted to assert certain things that could not be stated as “philosophically true”, particularly things that put limits on divine omnipotence. This had the interesting effect of making it clear that Aristotle had, actually, got some things badly wrong–something Thomas Aquinas emphasized in his famous and highly influential Summa Theologiae:
Cooper Gonzalez
The condemnations and Thomas’s Summa Theologiae had created a framework within which natural philosophers could safely pursue their studies. The framework… …laid down the principle that God had decreed laws of nature but was not bound by them. Finally, it stated that Aristotle was sometimes wrong. The world was not ‘eternal according to reason’ and ‘finite according to faith’. It was not eternal, full stop. And if Aristotle could be wrong about something that he regarded as completely certainly certain, that threw his whole philosophy into question. The way was clear for the natural philosophers of the Middle Ages to move decisively beyond the achievements of the Greeks. (Hannam, pp. 104-105) Which is precisely what they proceeded to do. Far from being a stagnant dark age, as the first half of the Medieval Period (500-1000 AD) certainly was, the period from 1000 to 1500 AD actually saw the most impressive flowering of scientific inquiry and discovery since the time of the ancient Greeks, far eclipsing the Roman and Hellenic Eras in every respect. With Occam and Duns Scotus taking the critical approach to Aristotle further than Aquinas’ more cautious approach, the way was open for the Medieval scientists of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Centuries to question, examine, and test the perspectives the translators of the Twelfth Century had given them, with remarkable effects: [I]n the fourteenth century medieval thinkers began to notice that there was something seriously amiss with all aspects of Aristotle's natural philosophy, and not just those parts of it that directly contradicted the Christian faith. The time had come when medieval scholars could begin their own quest to advance knowledge… …striking out in new directions that neither the Greeks nor the Arabs ever explored. Their first breakthrough was to combine the two subjects of mathematics and physics in a way that had not been done before. (Hannam, p. 174) The story of that breakthrough, and the remarkable Oxford scholars who achieved it and thus laid the foundations of true science–the “Merton Calculators”–probably deserves a book in itself. But Hannam’s account certainly does them justice and forms a fascinating section of his work. The names of these pioneers of the scientific method–Thomas Bradwardine, William Heytesbury, John Dumbleton, and the delightfully named Richard Swineshead–deserve to be better known. Unfortunately, the obscuring shadow of “the Myth” means that they continue to be ignored or dismissed even in quite recent popular histories of science. Bradwardine’s summary of the key insight these men uncovered is one of the great quotes of early science and deserves to be recognized as such: [Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth… …whoever then has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start that he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom. (Quoted in Hannam, p. 176)
Tyler Morales
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Julian Barnes
These men were not only the first to truly apply mathematics to physics but also developed logarithmic functions 300 years before John Napier and the Mean Speed Theorem 200 years before Galileo. The fact that Napier and Galileo are credited with discovering things that Medieval scholars had already developed is yet another indication of how “the Myth” has warped our perceptions of the history of science. Similarly, the physics and astronomy of Jean Buridan and Nicholas Oresme were radical and profound, but generally unknown to the average reader. Buridan was one of the first to compare the movements of the cosmos to those of another Medieval innovation–the clock. The image of a clockwork universe which was to serve scientists well into our own era began in the Middle Ages. And Oresme’s speculations about a rotating Earth shows that Medieval scholars were happy to contemplate what were (to them) fairly outlandish ideas to see if they might work–Oresme found that this particular idea actually worked quite well. These men are hardly the products of a “dark age” and their careers are conspicuously free of any of the Inquisitors and threats of burning so fondly and luridly imagined by the fevered proponents of “the Myth”.
Luis Davis
Reported for intl.
Galileo, Inevitably As mentioned above, no manifestation of “the Myth” is complete without the Galileo Affair being raised. The proponents of the idea that the Church stifled science and reason in the Middle Ages have to wheel him out, because without him they actually have absolutely zero examples of the Church persecuting anyone for anything to do with inquiries into the natural world. The common conception that Galileo was persecuted for being right about heliocentrism is a total oversimplification of a complex business, and one that ignores the fact that Galileo's main problem was not simply that his ideas disagreed with scriptural interpretation but also with the science of the time. Contrary to the way the affair is usually depicted, the real sticking point was the fact that the scientific objections to heliocentrism at the time were still powerful enough to prevent its acceptance. Cardinal Bellarmine made it clear to Galileo in 1616 that if those scientific objections could be overcome then scripture could and would be reinterpreted. But while the objections still stood, the Church, understandably, was hardly going to overturn several centuries of exegesis for the sake of a flawed theory. Galileo agreed to only teach heliocentrism as a theoretical calculating device, then promptly turned around and, in typical style, taught it as fact. Thus his prosecution by the Inquistion in 1633. Hannam gives the context for all this in suitable detail in a section of the book that also explains how the Humanism of the “Renaissance” led a new wave of scholars, who sought not only to idolize and emulate the ancients, but to turn their backs on the achievements of recent scholars like Duns Scotus, Bardwardine, Buridan, and Orseme. Thus many of their discoveries and advances were either ignored and forgotten (only to be rediscovered independently later) or scorned but quietly appropriated. The case for Galileo using the work of Medieval scholars without acknowledgement is fairly damning. In their eagerness to dump Medieval “dialectic” and ape the Greeks and Romans - which made the “Renaissance” a curiously conservative and rather retrograde movement in many ways–they discarded genuine developments and advancements by Medieval scholars. That a thinker of the calibre of Duns Scotus could become mainly known as the etymology of the word “dunce” is deeply ironic. As good as the final part of the book is and as worthy as a fairly detailed analysis of the realities of the Galileo Affair clearly is, I must say the last four or five chapters of Hannam’s book did feel as though they had bitten off a bit more than they could chew. I was able to follow his argument quite easily, but I am very familiar with the material and with the argument he is making. I suspect that those for whom this depiction of the “Renaissance,” and the idea of Galileo as nothing more than a persecuted martyr to genius, might find that it gallops at too rapid a pace to really carry them along. Myths, after all, have a very weighty inertia. At least one reviewer seems to have found the weight of that inertia too hard to resist, though perhaps she had some other baggage weighing her down. Nina Power, writing in New Humanist magazine, certainly seems to have had some trouble ditching the idea of the Church persecuting Medieval scientists: Just because persecution wasn’t as bad as it could have been, and just because some thinkers weren’t always the nicest of people, doesn’t mean that interfering in their work and banning their ideas was justifiable then or is justifiable now. Well, no one said it was justifiable, and simply explaining how it came about and why it was not as extensive, or of the nature, that most people assume is not “justifying” it, anyway–it is correcting a pseudo-historical misunderstanding. That said, Power does have something of a point when she notes: Hannam’s characterization of [Renaissance] thinkers as “incorrigible reactionaries” who “almost managed to destroy 300 years of progress in natural philosophy” is at odds with his more careful depiction of those that came before. This is not, however, because that characterization is wrong, but because the length and scope of the book really do not give him room to do this fairly complex and, to many, radical idea justice.
Alexander Allen
Conclusion My only criticisms of the book are really quibbles. The sketch of the “agrarian revolution” of the Dark Ages described in Chapter One, which saw technology like the horse-collar and the mouldboard plough adopted and water and wind power harnessed to greatly increase production in previously unproductive parts of Europe is generally sound. But it does place too much emphasis on two elements in Lynn White’s thesis in his seminal Medieval Technology and Social Change–the importance of the stirrup and the significance of the horse collar. As important and groundbreaking as White’s thesis was in 1962, more recent analysis has found some of his central ideas dubious. The idea that the stirrup was as significant for the rise of shock-heavy cavalry as White claimed is now pretty much rejected by military historians. Also, his claims about how this cavalry itself caused the beginnings of the feudal system were dubious to begin with. Finally, the idea that Roman traction systems were as inefficient as White’s sources make out has also been seriously questioned. Hannam seems to accept White’s thesis wholesale, which is not really justified given it has been reassessed for over forty years now. That aside, this is a marvelous book and a brilliant, readable, and accessible antidote to “the Myth.” It should be on the Christmas wish-list of any Medievalist, science history buff, or anyone who has a misguided friend who still thinks the nights in the Middle Ages were lit by burning scientists.
Brody James
Christ wasn’t a socialist. He was a religious radical. He advocated charity by the individual. He did not want a complex temporal power structure established to tax people at gunpoint to subsidize poverty. Santa Claus, likewise, rewards virtue with toys and evil with coal. If anything, what he represents is a purely capitalistic idea–regardless of background, race, creed, etc., by virtuous and diligent behavior one will be rewarded materially. Whereas slothfulness and evil reaps nothing of value. A Wonderful Life is about valuing family, not about establishing a top-down economy. A Christmas Carol isn’t about a capitalist who turns into a socialist. It’s about a capitalist who overcomes the bitterness of his childhood and learns to value his family and his friendships more than his business. He doesn’t stop being a capitalist; he still solves all of his problems with money. The Grinch Who Stole Christmas is about a terrorist who realizes that his diagnosis of capitalist society as being corrupt and materialistic was wrong. He realizes that though the society acknowledges capitalistic values, it also has a spiritual core independent of that system. His realization that the two can exist in harmony allows him to come to terms with his own bitterness and join society, rather than living like a hermit up in the mountains. Charlie Brown, ironically, is the only story with any socialist values at all, and they’re negative. Charlie Brown used everyone’s money to make a terrible economic decision and invest in a bad tree that didn’t fulfill its intended function. The people were then forced to band together to make the best out of this smoking ruin on their own initiative. In essence, A Charlie Brown Christmas is about a government using the people’s money poorly, and then the public sector having to make the best of it with their own innovation.
Easton White
I find it ironic that people believe Christians can’t come to Holla Forums because it “violates their faith.” I’m not saying this in a “they are coming here to fish for sinners” kind of way. I’m saying it in a “maybe God wants us here” kind of way. Think about the things promoted on Holla Forums. Really think about them. We stand for strong family and strong fathers. We stand for logic and reason. We demand the utmost skill in conveying ideas. We promote freedom and free speech. We get a lot of flak for hating the Jews, blacks, and women. Anyone who has been on here more than a week knows that we don’t actually hate those people. What we hate is what they do and what they stand for. The Jew stands for greed and gluttony. The black stands for sloth and ignorance. The feminist stands for lust and oppression. We hate the idea of our children being influence by insanity, laziness, and greed. This is a statement that the outside world will never understand: Holla Forums is a bastion of moral superiority. In our anonymous and uncensored little world, we let flow our stark moral standards. That is why the world hates us. Not because we are immoral, but because we stand on a moral high ground so traditional that the cesspool of society cannot see it for what it is.
Aiden Peterson
The Bible teaches that those who clothe themselves in Christ are “born again, to a new heritage,” that is the “oldest heritage.” Christians, no matter the color of their skin or the face of their father, are sons and daughters of Abraham. All a man has in this world is what he was given by his parents. They may not leave him wealth, fame, or a place in society. What they do leave him is the culture of his people, the blood in his veins, and the morals and ethics of their own fathers. As the Old Testament taught, some men were stained from birth because of this. They were unclean, just as there was food that was unclean. But God says that there is another way–a better way. A man need not be bound by the lot that has befallen them. In the New Testament, Peter writes a letter in response to some Jews who do not understand the commandment to accept Gentiles as their own. It conflicted with their teachings, and they were refusing to accept them as equals. “We are the Chosen ones,” they argued, not them. In it, Peter berates them and tells them that the spiritual inheritance given by God supersedes the inheritance of the earthly father. Every man who accepts Jesus Christ as his savior becomes one of the Chosen. I will say it again, because it is important: Every man who accepts Jesus Christ as his savior becomes one of the Chosen. If you accept Jesus Christ into your heart, you are born again to the line of Abraham and will be given a heritage greater and older than any earthly bloodline. You will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. It becomes your birthright, and you will dwell there eternally. You become a Son or Daughter of God. Peter based his argument off of a vision he had, detailed in Acts 10, in which God laid out food before him and commanded him to eat. But Peter saw that the food was unclean, and so he refused. God then said this to him. What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. (verse 15) Later, Peter realized that this was not just a revelation about food, but about man himself. When Christ died, he came to cleanse man of the Original Sin. Thus his revelation. God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. (verse 28) This vision shows something very important. Why do the Jews believe that the Gentile is bad? Because he is “unclean”. What did God show to Peter? That the sacrifice of Christ has “cleansed the unclean”. There is no food now that cannot be eaten. There is no man now who is a Gentile. Not only food, but man himself has been cleansed. There are no unclean races. Not anymore. The only man who is unclean is the man who has not accepted Christ into his heart and become one of the Chosen. The only man who is clean is the man who has clothed himself in Christ; he is a Son of God and shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. In the leftists’ fumbling and bumbling, they scream about the color of someone’s skin as though that is the definitive qualifier for race. Their ignorance betrays you. Holla Forums argues that Zimmerman, in spite of being Hispanic, is an “honorary white” for what he did. Why? Because they understand that what a man is born is not as important as what he grows up to become. They know that there is more to a man than the mere quality of his blood or the shade of his skin–that this alone is not the ruler of everything he is, was, and will become. Zimmerman is a Christian. He has clothed himself in Christ. He is a Son of Abraham and will dwell in the House of the Lord. Whatever earthly heritage he bore has been overwritten and superseded by a spiritual one. Zimmerman is one of the Chosen. Why? Because God does not care about the flesh. “Build up not your wealth on Earth, for it will rot and decay. Build up your treasure in the Kingdom of Heaven, for it is eternal.” At the end of all things and the beginning of eternity, there will be no more flesh and all will be judged based on their choices and character.
Michael Harris
That is the revelation of God, the revelation of Christianity, and the revelation of Jesus. That salvation is no longer a birthright, but a choice. You were born flawed. God has the highest standards and all fall short of them, no matter the color of their skin. Were some more clean than others? Yes. But none were clean enough. But because He loves us, He has cleared away the debt of Original Sin. He has cast aside the earthly inheritance, and He has allowed any man who so chooses to rise above his earthy blood and become a spiritual heir to the Kingdom of Heaven itself. No longer must you be of the blood to be Chosen. Now a man may become Chosen though Christ, and only through Christ. Holla Forums will tell you that race is a matter of trends (meaning genetics), not individuals. My addition to that statement is this: the revelation of Christ is a personal revelation. It is an individual revelation. A whole race cannot be excused, an entire culture or people cannot be forgiven. You must have the wherewithal to come to God, prostrate yourself, admitting your flaws and failings and seeking forgiveness for your transgressions. You can only do it alone. No one can drag you to it. You cannot be converted by the sword, as a Muslim can. You are not born inferior, like the Jew would tell you. You must come to the revelation on your own. You are made Chosen by your own hands, by the Grace of God. You choose yourself, and because of that, God chooses you. Race is about trends, not individuals. So is damnation. There is no Christian who is not an individual over the trend. More people will fall than will rise. Many who are of good stock will fall because they could not raise themselves up to be better. Do not glorify the slaggard, wastrel, layabout, or the parasite simply because of his “good brewing”. They are degenerates, unable to so much as raise a hand to meet the face of God that has come down from such purity to meet them halfway. They are not the Chosen because they lack the willingness to apply themselves to the path of salvation–a path made so simple that it comprises but a single step. To believe otherwise–to glorify them because of their blood–is to behave as the Jews behave and to believe as the Jews believe. That is the true betrayal of leftist intention. That they parrot the beliefs of the Jews with only a few words changed. That they speak but do not hear. That they recite but do not understand. You scream “kike on a stick” and “christcuck” without comprehending the root terms. Holla Forums is against miscegenation for excellent reasons. Holla Forums is against multiculturalism for excellent reasons. Above everything else, Holla Forums is a overwhelmingly nationalist. If every Jew that pushed orthodox Judaism went to live in Israel and the only jews outside of it were those who disliked or who were not “jew-ish” in spite of being jews, and did not push any jewish interests or assert zionism, would anyone have a problem with them? “Every man in his country.” Zionists are Jewish nationalists, so why not leave them to their own nation? There would be those that criticized them for how they obtained their city-state. I would be among them, for as a Christian, I know that the covenant of the Old Testament was dissolved, so the Jews had no right to the land they took. They stole it, in other words. On the whole, however, there would be far less animosity against them. If Africans stayed in Africa and lived or died by their own laws, there would be far less said about them. If mussulmen laid down their swords and picked up plowshares to repair their waitron land, far fewer people would hate them. If cultures did not try to devour one another and races to subsume one another–instead leaving each other well enough alone with mutually respected boundaries–the world would be a far better place than it is today. But the Jew is not content with his own nation. He will take what he sees as his… and then take and take and take some more from everyone else. And that is why he cannot be tolerated. Because he will not stay behind the walls he has raised and foster his own people. Because he feels he must destroy and subjugate the world.
Brody Clark
This is the truth of the world that Holla Forums has realized, of which Christians have always been aware. The truth is that we did not start this. Ours is not an instigation, but a reaction. That is what liberals, Jews, mussulmen, what have you, refuse to admit, and it is the truth that they fear the most. Their enemies, whom they hate so deeply, once did not call any man an enemy and would call a stranger a friend. That it is those who the left protects and idolizes who started the fires–who pushed out the good things in this world for their own ego and profit. That is the truth of the world. We did not start the fire. The Crusades were justified and reactionary to centuries of Muslim conquest, slavery, and genocide. The Inquisition was justified and reactionary to Muslim taqiyya and the Muslim invasion and conquest of Iberia. Questioning the story of the Holocaust is justified, as all things should be questioned under the eye of rationality, even God. This is the truth that the left fears most: that we have been right all along. And they fear it because of their ego. Because their pride is too great for them to concede to having been wrong, about anything, ever. Pride has been the assassin of empires and nations. It has burned continents and ravaged civilizations. Pride, it is said, will be the one sin that drags the most to Hell. Pride so great that you cannot bring yourself to take the holy hand that has been extended to you. Pride so heavy and immense that you cannot bring yourself to grab the rope that has been thrown to you as you drown. Even though you hold the views you do through no fault of your own, your pride still stays your hand from that rope. And it will be that pride, in the end, that will be your undoing. That is why you are not worthy. That is why you are not Chosen. In the end, every knee will bow. Those that will not bow will be bent. Even that of the Antichrist. Liberals try so hard to divide and conquer. Do they never stop to think why they are compelled to do so? Do they never cease and wonder at why things such as as Nationalism and Christianity–which seek only be left alone–drive them to such heights of rage? It is because the mere existence of something that is not of theirs is a suggestion that they might have been wrong. Their pride demands their rage at these things. And they give in to that demand. And so the wheel turns and the fire rises. Stand for truth in a world of lies. Stand for purity in a world of corruption. Stand for chastity in a world of degeneracy. DEUS VULT.
Daniel Gutierrez
I don’t care about the context. Know why? Because the context wouldn’t be cared about if this scene took place in a synagogue or, Allah forbid, a mosque. CAIR and all the infiltrated parts of the Europeans’ governments would be up in arms. News stations would be squealing about the countless death threats being acted upon. For months the film would be marked as nothing but a hateful and despicable hate movie of hatred against “our dear Muslim friends who only want peace.” And if it was a synagogue? The movie would never have been made because the jews in Hollywood would have burst a blood vessel screaming, “ANTI-SEMITE!” loud enough to explode their lungs during the scriptwriting process. If it was made, the film director would be forced to apologize and all actors involved would be barred from entering most of Western Europe for taking part in a despicable anti-Semitic hate film of anti-Semitic hatred. The anti-Semitic actors would be marked as anti-Semites and would never be able to get a role in a film again. Or, if they did, it would be as sparse an opportunity as Mel Gibson’s current predicament. News organizations would be vomiting blood and Jews all over the US-of-Israel would be weeping tears, demanding political recompense for the film’s Nazi-like evil Nazidom and for triggering every Jew’s–every Jew’s–PTSD over the lost 6 quintillion. BUT SINCE IT’S IN A CHRISTIAN CHURCH, IT’S OKAY. Why? Because Christians don’t blow people up, rape young white children for 15 fucking years, push for Sharia Law, push for Israeli genocide of the Middle East, get people fired because they remind us of an incident we weren’t even alive for but which “totally happened because my grandfather’s second cousin twice removed was turned into a lampshade!” “But it’s just a funny scene in a movie, silly Christian! Relax!” Tell that to the victims of systematic rape and sexual slavery by over 100 Muslim men for 15 fucking years in Rotherham, Derby, and Oxford who were given no ear for their pleas and no protection if they spoke out. Tell that to the comedians, actors, documentary directors, and all other artists and politicians who get blacklisted, fired, and jailed because they say even the slightest thing against Israel, even when that country has an actual concentration camp of its own and continues the genocide of innocents because they are “collateral damage.” REMEMBER THE SIX OCTILLION! No. It’s not funny. And you people who laugh and enjoy it don’t know everything that has, is, and will occur behind and around the production of such a scene.
Oliver Cruz
There is no shortage of heresies these days. If you want to adopt some blasphemous, perverted, fun house mirror reflection of Christianity, you will find a veritable buffet of options. You can sift through all the variants and build your own little pet version of the Faith. It’s Ice Cream Social Christianity: make your own sundae! (Or Sunday, as it were) And of all the heretical choices, probably the most common–and possibly the most damaging–is what I’ve come to call the Nice Doctrine. The propagators of the Nice Doctrine can be seen and heard from anytime any Christian takes any “bold” stance on any cultural issue, uses “harsh” language of any kind, condemns any sinful act, or fights against evil with any force or conviction at all. As soon as you stand and say, “This is wrong. and I will not compromise,” the heretics swoop in with their trusty mantras. They insist that Jesus was a nice man and that He never would have done anything to upset people. They say that He came down from Heaven to preach tolerance and acceptance and He wouldn’t have used words that might lead to hurt feelings. They confidently sermonize about a meek and mild Messiah who was born into this Earthly realm on a mission to spark a constructive dialogue. The believers in Nice Jesus are usually ignorant of Scripture, but they do know that He was ‘friends with prostitutes’ and once said something about how, like, we shouldn’t get too ticked off about stuff, or whatever. In their minds. He’s essentially a supernatural Cheech Marin. Replies to my earlier statements about gay rights militants illustrate this heresy. That post prompted an especially noteworthy email from someone concerned that I’m not being “Christlike” because I “call people names.” He said, in part, “You aren’t spreading Christianity when you talk like that. The whole message of Jesus was that we should be nice to people because we want them to be nice to us. That’s how we can all be happy. Period. It’s that simple.” Be nice to me, I’ll be nice to you, and we’ll all be happy. This is the ‘whole message’ of Christianity? Really? Jesus Christ preached a Truth no deeper or more complex than a slogan on a poster in a kindergarten classroom? Really? A provocative claim, to say the least. I decided to investigate the matter, and sure enough, I found this excerpt from the Sermon on the Mount: “We’re best friends like friends should be. With a great big hug, and a kiss from me to you, won’t you say you love me too?” Actually, wait, sorry, that’s from the original Barney theme song. God help us. We’ve turned the Son of God into a purple dinosaur puppet. There’s no way to be certain, but most theologians believe that despite popular perception, Christ looked nothing like this. I don’t recognize this Jesus. This moderate. This pacifist. This nice guy. He’s not the Jesus I read about in the Bible. I read of a strong, manly, stern, and bold Savior. Compassionate, yes. Forgiving, of course. Loving, always loving. But not particularly nice. He condemned. He denounced. He caused trouble. He disrupted the established order. On one occasion–or at least one recorded occasion–He used violence. This Jesus saw the money changers in the temple and how did He respond? He wasn’t polite about it. I’d even say He was downright intolerant. He fashioned a whip (this is what the lawyers would call ‘premeditation’) and physically drove the merchants away. He turned over tables and shouted. He caused a scene. (John 2:15) Assault with a deadly weapon. Vandalism. Disturbing the peace. Worse still, intolerance. In two words: not nice. Not nice at all.
Luke Cruz
Can you imagine how some moderate, pious, nice “Christians” of today would react to that spectacle in the Temple? Can you envision the proponents of the Nice Doctrine, with their wagging fingers and their passive aggressive sighs? I'm sure they’d send Jesus a patronizing e-mail, perhaps leave a disapproving comment under the news article about the incident reminding Jesus that Jesus would never do what Jesus just did. Personally. I’ve studied the New Testament and found not a single instance of Christ calling for a ‘dialogue’ with evil or seeking the middle ground on an issue. I see an absolutist, unafraid of confrontation. I see a man who did not waver or give credence to the other side. I see someone who never once avoided a dispute by saying that He’ll just ‘agree to disagree.’ I see a Christ who calls the Scribes and Pharisees snakes and vipers. He labels them murderers and blind guides and ridicules them publicly (Matthew 23:33). He undermines their authority. He insults them. He castigates them. He’s not very nice to them. Jesus rebukes and condemns. In Matthew 18, He utilizes morbid and violent imagery, saying that it would be better to drown in the sea with a stone around your neck than to harm a child. Had our modern politicians been around two thousand years ago, I’m sure they’d go on the cable news shows and shake their heads and insist that there’s ‘no place for that kind of language.’ No place for the language of God. Jesus deliberately did and said things that He knew would upset people. He stirred up division and controversy. He provoked. He didn’t have to break from established customs, but He did. He didn’t have to heal that man’s hand on the Sabbath, knowing how it would disturb others and cause them immense irritation, but He did, and He did so with ‘anger’ (Mark 3:5). He could have gone with the flow a little bit. He could have chilled out and let bygones be bygones, but He didn’t. He could have been diplomatic, but He wasn’t. He could have told everyone to relax, but instead He made them uncomfortable. He could have put them at ease, but He chose to put them on edge. He convinced the mob not to stone the adulterer (John 8). and you’ll notice that He then turned to her and told her to stop sinning. Indeed, never once did He encounter sin and corruption and say, “Hey, do your thang, homies. Just have fun. YOLO!” The followers of Nice Jesus love to quote the ‘throw the first stone’ verse–and for good reason, as it’s a beautiful and compelling story–but you rarely hear mention of the exchange that occurs just a few sentences later in that very same chapter. In John 8:44, Jesus rebukes unbelieving Jews and calls them ‘sons of the Devil.’ Wow. That wasn’t nice, Jesus. Didn’t anyone ever tell you that you can catch more flies with honey, Jesus? Of course, you’d catch even more flies with a mound of garbage, so maybe ‘catching flies’ isn’t the point. While we’re often reminded that Jesus said, “Live by the sword, die by the sword,” we seem to ignore his other sword references. Like when he told his disciples to sell their cloaks and buy a sword (Luke 22), or when He said that He “didn't come to bring peace, but a sword.” (Matthew 10) Now, it’s true that He is God and we are not. Jesus can say whatever He wants to say. But we are called to be like Christ, which begs the question: what is Christ like? Well, He is, among other things, uncompromising. He is intolerant of evil. He is disruptive. He is sometimes harsh. He is sometimes impolite. He is sometimes angry. He is always loving. Christ was not and is not a cosmic guidance counselor, and He is not mankind’s best friend, nor did He call us to be. He made dogs for that role–our destiny is more substantial, and our path to it is far more challenging and dangerous. And nice? Where does nice factor into this? Nice: affable, peachy, swell.
Caleb Murphy
Nice has nothing to do with Christianity. I have nothing against nice–nice is nice–but even serial killers can be nice to people. They generally are exceptionally affable, except when they’re murdering. That means they’re nice to, like, 97 or 98% of everyone they meet. I guess they’re following Christ almost all of the time, right? And tolerance? Tolerance is easy. Any coward can learn to tolerate something. Tolerance is inaction: intolerance is action. We are called to refuse to tolerate evil. We are called to get angry at it and actively work to destroy it. Who’d have guessed it–anger is far more godly than tolerance ever could be. Obviously I’m not suggesting that anger is automatically, or even usually, justified. Christ exhibited righteous anger: righteous anger is the sort of anger that naturally fills our soul when we confront the depths of depravity and sin. It is wrong to seethe with rage because someone cut us off in traffic or gossips about us behind our back, but it is also wrong to feel no anger when babies are murdered and the institution of the family is undermined and attacked. Anger is good when it is directed at things that offend not us, but God. Just as Christ’s intolerance, like the intolerance we’re commanded to have, stems from a desire to save souls and defend Truth. Even when we have righteous anger, we do not have carte blanche to act on it in any way we please. But according to the Bible, there are times to use strong language, there are times to cause a scene, there are times to hurt people’s feelings, and there are times when we might need to use physical force. Jesus told us to turn the other cheek when we are personally attacked. He never told us to turn our backs entirely and let lies spread and evil grow. So enough with the niceties. Christians in this country sound too similar to the Golden Girls song and not enough like the Battle Hymn of the Republic. There’s too much ‘thank you for being a friend.’ and not enough ‘lightening from His terrible swift sword.’ We’re all hugging and singing Kumbaya when we should be marching and shouting Hallelujah. We’re nice “Christians” with our nice Jesus, and we are trampled on without protest. Enough, already. I think it’s time that Christianity regain its fighting spirit–the spirit of Christ. I think it’s time we ask that question, “What would Jesus do?” And I think it’s time we answer it truthfully. Jesus would flip tables and yell. Maybe we ought to follow suit.
Justin Rivera
I’ll address Luke 6:35. The “love” in “love your enemies” is ἀγαπᾶτε, a conjugate of agape. This is not love like you love your mom–storge–not love like in romance–eros–nor love for a friend–philos. This is loving your enemy like God loves them–agape. Now, God does not love by making you feel good for doing evil. God does not allow one to sin and not suffer the natural consequences thereof. Christ is saying we should endeavor to reform and rehabilitate our enemies. At first blush, this suggests that leftists are right–that killing them is not the answer. But it is not right to go on letting them kill or enslave young Christian girls to be sold on the sex market, either. Where is your love for our brothers and sisters in Christ? Will you throw them aside for some infidels? “That which you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me.” Matthew 25:40 So, with a choice between effectively letting someone enslave and rape Jesus or regrettably destroying evildoers that have already determined to use force, I think it is a Christian answer to fight back. However, at the same time, there are already people fighting back and this Oregon guy does not have the means to help in that way. If this guy is called upon to go martyr himself for the faith, he should do it. His sacrifice for spreading the word will do good for Christ. I do not feel that is what God has called me to do, but the Holy Spirit, while the same essence, may call on each of us to use our talents in different ways. To sum up, 6:35 is not a prohibition on fighting to save oneself or other Christians, although it does put in a strong suggestion about trying other methods first. Just like every secular ideology in history.
Brandon Jenkins
I’m going to use a quote from the Bible, to help us better understand what sins are and why things are sins.
Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you. Everyone who sins is a slave to sin.” John 8:34
I think that Jesus was incredibly insightful on this–the idea that being a sinner makes you a slave to your sins. Taking this idea forward, we can understand that sins are acts that make us slaves to our base drives and impulses that erode our ability to control ourselves and therefore make rational decisions. Even though this is a Biblical idea, you can apply it to examine certain acts and determine if they are sinful without listening to the letter of the law in the Bible itself. If we think about it this way, God didn't just arbitrarily make things sins because he doesn't like them. Sins are sins because they destroy us–because they are self-destructive acts or acts which destroy those who care about and love–which is an abomination to both nature and, if you so believe, God. Casual sex and pornography are not sins simply because they are offensive to God. They are sins because they manipulate the parts of your mind that are meant to be dedicated to forming stable and healthy sexual partnerships with other people. They are sins because they are habit forming and they destroy your capacity for real love. Hell, again, exists in more than just the spiritual sense. Look at the life of the true degenerate. Not just someone who occasionally dabbles in degeneracy, but the real diehards. The drunks, the homosexuals, the crack addicts. Are these people living a fulfilling, meaningful life ? Their lives are hell. They don't need to wait to die to go to hell, they're already there.
Owen Phillips
A lot of people seem to be confused because they’ve heard a moron or two say, “SJWism is like a religion.” They’re only familiar with Christianity, and most of them only have a surface understanding of it. Allow me to tell you why Christianity and Modern Liberal thought are incompatible. First of all, they’re predicated on opposite assumptions. The foundational belief is vital to a philosophy and is the one thing from which the philosophy draws its conclusions. This first assumption is often unable to be proven true or false, but can have evidence to support it. Proof and evidence are different things in this case–evidence being supporting observations, proof being a mathematical certainty. Christianity’s first assumption when it comes to society is that “people are basically bad.” Now, even though they believe that man was perfect once upon a time, they believe that he “fell” and became imperfect. Catholics believe that this is Original Sin–something you are born with thanks to the Fall–and that is cleansed with Baptism. However, Orthodox and Protestants hold that you are only born with a sinful nature–that you are born with a propensity to do bad–but not with an invisible mark. They believe you are held personally responsible for your sins. They hold to personal responsibility, as people are bad and must be made accountable for their decisions since evil deeds they commit are ultimately their fault. The Evil comes from within, not from without. “For it is not what goes into a man’s mouth that condemns him, but what comes out.” Because of this, they believe that society redeems man; it does not corrupt them. Institutions, manmade structure, rules, and moral objectivity–form walls and barriers for man’s safety to allow him to live his life without Evil. And, within this view, Evil is anything that harms both others and the self. Now, this is completely contrary to modern Liberalism which presumes that man is basically good. But then they must answer, “Whence comes Evil?” Their answer is from without. Since Man is basically good, if he commits evil then it must be because of some outside factor. In this case, society condemns man and does not redeem him. Because of this, Modern Liberalism seeks to reform society–rather than Man, as Christians do. To a Modern Liberal, since their basic assumption is that Man is basically good, it follows to believe that if the man is left alone, and not provoked by outside forces, (structure, “outdated” morality, artificial “patriarchy”, etc.) he will do good. Therefore, there is no such thing as evil done by the self. But Evil can be done to him, so they are concerned with the individual’s freedom first and foremost, as that means that no outside influence can come in and disrupt Man’s basic default state of “good” Modern Liberalism = Man is Good, Society Corrupts. Christianity = Man is Evil, Society Redeems.
Judiasm and Christianity: The Differences convert.org/Judaism_and_Christianity.html ——————————————————————————————————————- 3. Christians Saying Christianity is Not Jewish
Why Jews Don't Believe in Jesus aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html ————————————————————————————————————————————— 5. The Jews of Today are not the Jews of the Bible
Newsweek cites authorities who indicate that “the idea of a common Judeo-Christian tradition first surfaced at the end of the 19th century, but did not gain popular support until the 1940s, as part of an American reaction to Nazism…” and concludes that, “Since then, both Jewish and Christian scholars have come to recognize that–geopolitics apart–Judaism and Christianity are different–even rival–religions.” Joshua Jehouda, a prominent French Jewish leader, observed in the late 1950s: “The current expression ‘Judeo-Christian’ is an error which has altered the ccourse of universal history by the confusion it has sown in men’s minds, if by it one is meant to understand the Jewish origin of Christianity… If the term ‘Judeo-Christian’ does point to a common origin, there is no doubt that it is a most dangerous idea. It is based on a ‘contradictio in abjecto’ which has set the path of history on the wrong track. It links in one breath two ideas which are completely irreconcilable, it seeks to demonstrate that there is no difference between day and night or hot and cold or black and white, and thus introduces a fatal element of confusion to a basis on which some, nevertheless, are endeavoring to construct a civilization.” The few New Testament ‘proof texts’ utilized by Christian Zionists and secular proponents of the modern Judeo-Christian myth are the product of poor translation. Messianic Jewish writer Malcolm Lowe in his paper Who Are the Ioudaioi? concludes, like Robert and Mary Coote, that the Greek word “Ioudaioi” in the New Testament should be translated as “Judeans” rather than the more usual “Jews.” Israeli scholar David Stern also came to the same conclusion when translating the Jewish New Testament. Few Christians are aware that the translators of Scripture often mistranslated the word “Jew” from such words as “Ioudaioi” (meaning from, or being of as a geographic area, Judean). The word Judean, mistranslated as “Jew” in the New Testament, never possessed a valid religious connotation, but was simply used to identify members of the native population of the geographic area known as Judea. Also it is important to understand that in the Scriptures, the terms “Israel”, “Judah” and “Jew” are not synonymous, nor is the House of Israel synonymous with the House of Judah. The course of history is widely divergent for the peoples properly classified under each of these titles. Accordingly, the authoritative 1980 Jewish Almanac says, “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” A writer for The Dearborn Independent, published in Michigan in 1922, summarized the problem thus: “The pulpit has also the mission of liberating the Church from the error that Judah and Israel are synonymous. The reading of the Scriptures which confuse the tribe of Judah with Israel, and which interpret every mention of Israel as signifying the Jews, is at the root of more than one-half the confusion and division traceable in Christian doctrinal statements.”
Daniel Martin
Nobody is going to read any of that shit. Just saying.
Christian Morris
While the Pharisees recognized the laws of Moses, they also claimed that there was a great body of oral tradition which was of at least equal authority with the written Law, and many claimed that the Tradition was of greater authority. By their tradition, they undertook to explain and elaborate upon the Law. This was the “Tradition of the Elders”, to which the name of Talmud was later given. It had its beginning in Babylon, during the Babylon captivity of the people of Judah, where it developed in the form of the commentaries of various rabbis, undertaking to explain and apply the Law. This was the foundation of Rabbinic Judaism. This Judaism was very different from the religion of the ancient Israelites. The late Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, who was the Chief Rabbi of the United States, expressed this conclusively when he said: “The return from Babylon, and the adoption of the Babylonian Talmud, marks the end of Hebrewism, and the beginning of Judaism.” The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that the Talmud is actually “the product of the Palestinian and Babylonian schools” and is generally referred to as “the Babylonian Talmud.” Dr. Boaz Cohen in Everyman’s Talmud states the Talmud is the work of “numerous Jewish scholars over a period of some 700 years, roughly speaking, between 200 [BC] and 500 [AD].” Rabbi Louis Finkelstein in Volume 1 of The Pharisees, the Sociological Background of their Faith says, “Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaption of custom, and adjustment of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered.” The Talmud, more than any other literature, so defined Judaism that Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser admitted, “Judaism is not the religion of the Bible.” (Judaism and the Christian Predicament, 1966, p.159) It is the Talmud that guides the life and spirit of the Jewish people. This is to say, therefore, that the central message of the Old Testament has been fulfilled in the New Testament. It must be understood that it was the position of Christendom for at least 1900 years. It was the position, not only of Justin Martyr, but of such Stalwart saints as Irenaeus and Hippolytus; a position embraced by Martin Luther and John Calvin, the two towering figures of the Protestant Reformation. Christianity and Judaism are two distinct religious inheritances. The very term “Judeo-Christian” is a mischievous misnomer without historical or Scriptural validity. “Judeo-Christianity” should be seen for what it is–another secular twentieth century, manufactured for narrow political ends, that is supremely disrespectful to all true believers. Any fundamental unity that does exist between world religions cannot be appreciated by ignorant and secular scholarship, but only through knowledge of the great primordial and universal truths.
Jackson Miller
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Most Christians have been subverted by “Judeo-Christianity.” It’s not their fault. They were raised to be “Christian” and a combination of federal sabotage and Jewish lobby groups has ensured that this is what “Christianity” is for them. Believe it or not, the current institution doesn’t like Christians or Christian values at all. They haven’t for decades. Christians are too dangerous to keep around without being pacified in some manner. The real ones can’t be bribed, are almost impossible to threaten, and will do the right thing just because it’s the right thing to do or tell the truth even if it’s damaging because they feel it’s true and thus needs to be known. The leviathan the state has become has no love for Christian values or mores. It represents a direct threat to them and their power. Jews and Muslims both have passages about lying to others to protect yourself or deceiving others as to what your true faith really is so as to better attack your enemies. Christianity alone cleaves to the truth for no reason beyond that it is true. You will never see any Jewish or Muslim martyrs. The Christian predilection to make martyrs out of common men is what makes it a dangerous religion to globalism, corporate interests, and other sundry institutions. This is why Marching to Zion is so important. It’s a redpill that will turn any but the most terminally cuckservative Christian to our side. Enormous effort was put into suppressing the evangelical sector of America, the UK, and Europe for precisely this reason. If there is anything that world Jewry and NWO fear, it’s Christianity waking up. They believe they can suppress America, that they can control the UK, that Europe can do nothing to stop them, and that Putin will fall in line when pushed. They have the Chinese businessmen eating out of their hands, so desperate are they to have a seat at the world table. And Islam is nothing more than a false flag–a deliberately awoken animal made to run amok to frighten and confuse while the real criminals get away with their crimes. When the time comes, if everything goes according to their plans, they will be suppressed and incorporated into the whole, and Islam will be pacified or outright eradicated. If there is any nation where they fear something could go wrong, it’s America, where freedom of speech is protected–so you cannot simply legislate lies into being truth. If you are an American Christian, you are on the very cutting edge of the globalist suppression techniques. The greatest amount of brainwashing is being leveled at you. If anything goes wrong with their plans–if anything can completely derail their propaganda and turn the tide–it’s probably going to be Christians uncucking themselves. And if it starts anywhere, it’s going to be in America. People have grown sick and tired of establishment “conservatism.” They crave the real thing. They would not cleave so strongly to Trump if they were not prepared to shift towards it. This is your opportunity to actually push this information. You will never have another, better chance to redpill people than right now. Start with the Christians. They’re the most powerful ally in this fight.
Isaac Rogers
In his The Fundamental Question of Metaphysics, Martin Heidegger asks the primary question in philosophy, which is: Why do we have something rather than nothing at all? The question may seem abstract at first, but the essential issues Heidegger raises are ones that we all will wrestle with at some point. Why are we here and where has everything that we know come from? It should first be pointed out that the atheist and the theist both believe in the eternal. As succinctly pointed out by the great theologian Jonathan Edwards, you must go back to something that is eternal because, as Edwards put it:
• Something exists • You don’t get something from nothing • Therefore, a necessary and eternal ‘something’ must exist
The atheist claims that the eternal ‘something’ is the natural universe; whereas the theist says an eternal Creator brought everything we know into existence. The question then becomes, which possibility is supported by the best evidence? Scientists are unequivocal in their response that the Universe we know and live in is not eternal. Every intellectually honest drop of evidence points to the fact that the universe–at some point in the past–exploded out of nothing into what we know today. Anything that has a beginning (such as our Universe) cannot be eternal and therefore must have a cause beyond and/or behind it. The Scottish skeptic David Hume admitted as much when he wrote, “I never asserted so absurd a proposition as that anything might arise without a cause.” This truth can be put into the following series of logical statements:
• Everything that begins to exist must have a cause • The universe began to exist • Therefore, the universe had a cause
James Russell
Because there are only two, eternal ‘somethings’ that are possible–the universe and a Creator–and one of them has been ruled out by all the evidence we have, a reasonable conclusion is that an eternal Creator is the cause for why we have something rather than nothing at all. This line of argumentation is often called the cosmological argument for the existence of God. However, critics have tried to attack this argument in two general, philosophical ways. The first has been through asking the question, “If everything needs a cause, then who caused God?” The British skeptic, Bertrand Russell (influenced by philosopher J. S. Mill), tried to argue against the cosmological argument in just such a fashion. However, both Russell and Mill commit two errors when they attempt to undo the cosmological argument. First, they commit the logical error of a category mistake–you cannot cause the uncaused or create the uncreated. Second, the cosmological argument does not say that everything needs a cause, but only those things that have a beginning. God, who has no beginning and is uncaused, needs no cause. The second attack on the cosmological argument has come from atheistic scientists who have proposed other possible causes for our universe. The two main options put forth are the multiverse (multiple universes) hypothesis and the quantum mechanics theory that purports things can arise and come into existence without a cause. However, both alternatives fail when studied closely. The Borde-Guth-Vilenkin theorem has scientifically proven that that even if our universe is just a tiny part of a so-called “multiverse” composed of many universes, the multiverse must have had an absolute beginning. In other words, it also requires a cause. As for the quantum mechanics proposal, it is simply not true that things begin to exist from nothing in a quantum mechanics environment. Anything arising results from fluctuations in the quantum vacuum, which is not “nothing” by definition. Instead, it comes from energy that is locked in the vacuum, which is a sea of fluctuating energy governed by physical laws having a physical structure. No evidence suggests that things come into being from nothing in quantum mechanics. Both the multiverse and quantum mechanics arguments are examples of what in philosophy is called “drowning the fish.” You can use all the water in the oceans in an attempt to drown the fish, but in the end, it will still be there affirming its existence and presence. In the end, the cosmological argument for God stands intact. The reason we have something rather than nothing is because, “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Rather than being defeated by modern science (as is the eternal universe claim), the opening line of the Bible is supported by science. Quantum chemist Henry F. Schaeffer says, “A Creator must exist. The Big Bang ripples and subsequent scientific findings are clearly pointing to an ex nihilo creation consistent with the first few verses of the book of Genesis.”
Bentley Harris
Dr. John Lennox sums up the overall matter of the cosmological argument well when he writes: “There are not many options–essentially just two. Either human intelligence ultimately owes its origin to mindless matter; or there is a Creator. It is strange that some people claim that it is their intelligence that leads them to prefer the first to the second.” There is no debate among both atheists and theists that the Universe, the Earth, and life on earth displays design. The most vocal atheist alive today, Richard Dawkins, says: “Living objects… look designed, they look overwhelmingly as though they’re designed. Biology is the study of complicated things which give the impression of having been designed for a purpose.” Francis Crick, an atheist and co-discoverer of DNA, says, “Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was not designed, but rather evolved.” The theist responds that things look designed because they were in fact designed by a Creator. The teleological (from the Greek word telos which means end, aim, or purpose) argument for God contends that one way we can validate the existence of a Creator is through the marks of intelligence and design that the universe and humankind exhibit. The argument is stated in the following way:
• Behind every complex design is a designer • The universe has a complex design • Therefore, the universe has a designer
Who is right? Is everything simply the product of time + matter + chance or is there a transcendent Creator? Which way does the evidence lead? Opponents of religion such as Dawkins and Crick may say things only appear designed, however even they cannot refute the presence of intelligent design that appears in life’s building blocks, which is DNA. DNA represents what is called “specified complexity,” meaning it contains a complex design that defies any rational attempt at explaining it other than by an intelligent source. Atheist Richard Dawkins admits that the message found in just the cell nucleus of an amoeba is more than all thirty volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica, with the entire amoeba itself having as much information in its DNA as 1,000 complete sets of the Encyclopedia Britannica. The important thing to understand is that the makeup of these entities is not random, not just meaningless data, but instead is highly organized information.
Christian Williams
Noted biophysicist Dean Kenyon states the conclusion on DNA plainly when he says: “If science is based on experience, then science tells us that the message encoded in DNA must have originated from an intelligent cause. What kind of intelligent agent was it? On its own, science cannot answer this question; it must leave it to religion and philosophy. But that should not prevent science from acknowledging evidences for an intelligent cause origin wherever they may exist.” What do Dawkins and Crick postulate as the source for the specified complexity and information found in DNA? Crick, speaking for Dawkins as well, says: “Given the weaknesses of all theories of terrestrial genesis, directed panspermia should still be considered a serious possibility.” Those unfamiliar with the term “directed panspermia” should understand that Crick and Dawkins say the best explanation for DNA is that aliens came to earth and planted it here. It needs to be noted that even if Crick and Dawkins are correct and their argument granted, it only extends the issue to that supposed race of beings. Dawkins proposes space aliens for the reason we see intelligence here but he also says that the alien would have had to have evolved as well. The problem is if you cannot get the evolutionary process to solve the information process here on earth, why think it could happen elsewhere? Kicking the dilemma to outer space does not help at all. The truth is those who deny that an ultimate Creator is responsible for the intelligence and design reflected in life exhibit far more faith than those who affirm the teleological argument for God. In fact, it was the argument from and to design that convinced what used to be atheism’s greatest philosopher and spokesman–Anthony Flew–to abandon his atheism and embrace the concept of a Creator. Stating his position on the matter, Flew simply said: “I think the origins of the laws of nature and of life and the Universe point clearly to an intelligent Source. The burden of proof is on those who argue to the contrary.”
Chase Brown
The most rabid Zionist supporters are evangelicals, so the best way to counter them is to actually teach them the Bible. Most evangelicals are cults of personality with Bible flavoring and preach utter heresy–dual covenant theology and Zionism, for starters. The following are the best arguments for debating and trumping zionist evangelicals:
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. – Revelation 3:9
This points out how the Jews, as they call themselves, are not Godly, and that their subversion was predicted.
And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. – Galatians 3:29
This destroys any notion of a Jewish right to the land of Israel based on the Bible, as the chosen people are those that accept Christ as savior–not a particular race and certainly not those that rejected Him.
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. – 1 John 2:23
This destroys the idea that the Jews are still the chosen people, because they have denied Christ and so have denied God.
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. – John 8:31-47
Taken together, I have taught these passages to several tea party and conservative groups to massively undermine their support of Israel. You will be attacked at first, but if you learn the passages well enough, you can stump them and change the whole group.
Ryan Price
Jesus is the singular biggest enemy of the NWO since He claims to be the Jewish messiah. The end goal of the secular/pseudo-atheist/zionist plan is to bring forth a different messiah, at which point the false Jews who claim to be Biblical jews (but are not)–this synagogue of Satan–will try to install a global zionist tyranny with Jerusalem as the world capital. They hate nothing more than Christianity, since Christianity condemns their every deed. They have committed countless unspeakable atrocities–human experiments in the name of scientific progress, secret agencies going around murdering innocents, the planning and execution of genocides, wars waged to enrich themselves, killing millions of civilians in the process, turning healthy Christian societies into barbaric, sexually degenerate cesspools of immorality. The atrocities they have committed upon the world are beyond counting and their brutality and ruthlessness in obtaining their goals has no comparison anywhere. There has never been a more perfect global tyranny than that of today, where a small group of ‘elite’ global rulers control every single aspect of our lives while at the same time making everyone believe that this is freedom. Their NWO is 1984 on steroids. And Christianity has predicted all of this. The prophecies concerning these developments can be found in the New Testament–most importantly, in the book of Revelations where their entire mark of the beast plan to economically enslave the world has been laid out in detail. As is their ultimate fate–and although most of them are deceived and believe they are actually the good guys and that they can persevere and win a war against God–deep inside they know that they are walking on the broad path of damnation and that there is only one end to their journey: eternal torment in the fires of Hell. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate. – Matthew 23:37,38 Then answered all the people (Jews) and said, “His blood be on us and on our children” – Matthew 27:25 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you to councils, and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten. – Mark 13:9 Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And I say the truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words, ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. – John 8:43-47
Aaron Cook
Stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost as your fathers did, so you do. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which showed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers. – Acts 7:51-53 It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing you put it from you and judge yourself unworthy of everlasting life, we turn to the Gentiles. – Acts 13:45-51 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision, whose mourns must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake… wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith: not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. – Titus 1:10-14 The Jews, who both killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and have persecuted us: and they please not God and are contrary to all men: forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. – 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews and are not but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet… – Revelation 3:9 So Jewish.
William Ward
The main problem stems from the fact that the word Jew/Judaism has multiple meanings, but most people don't realize this. This confusion was brought about intentionally. The word Jew was invented a couple centuries ago in English translations of the Bible as a shortened form of the word Judean. This refers to the province of Judea, which at the time of the New Testament was a multi-racial, multicultural area, whose capital city was Jerusalem, which was controlled by the Pharisees. Jesus and most of his disciples did not come from Judea–they came from Galilee–and therefore were not Jews by the Biblical definition. Judea was originally inhabited by the Israeli tribe of Judah, but by this point was quite mixed. Whereas Galilee was inhabited only by the Israeli tribe of Benjamin. The only disciple that was a Jew was Judas, who betrayed Jesus. The Pharisees were the evil Talmudists who Jesus opposed, and who ultimately got Jesus killed for daring to disagree with them. Later, Jerusalem was destroyed, and some Pharisees survived and became rootless nomads. Along the way they mixed with more people who converted to Talmudism. Then, after the invention of the English word Jew, the Talmudists started calling themselves Jews, and renamed their religion Judaism. They started claiming that they’re the people who lived in ancient Israel, and that they’re the “chosen people” spoken of in the Bible. In reality, their religion completely contradicts the Old Testament–even the Torah–and they know it, but they’ll never admit it. They brought about such a deliberate conflation and confusion of the word Jew that today people now use a definition of Jew that is expanded to include everyone in ancient Israel when that’s not at all what Jew meant originally. They also like to conflate Judaism with Hebrewism, but the religion of the Pharisees (Talmudism) only began after they returned from captivity in Babylon, and the Old Testament religion of the Hebrew people before that was quite different. Today, only a tiny minority of people who call themselves “Jews” don’t follow the Talmud. The modern confusion comes from the fact that most people–even most Christians–don’t realize this linguistic and historical deception. This is especially true of the English-speaking world (Protestants, foremost), due to modern, bastardized, heretical translations of the Bible, plus a divorce from the true traditions of the original Christian church. They’ve totally forgotten how the Jews persecuted Christians endlessly before Christians eventually gained power through the Roman Empire and started dishing it right back to them. Just like a nation becomes ruined when it forgets its own history, the same is true of a religion. In fact, the same arguments used to claim that Christianity is inherently weak because it has now been subverted can be used to say that Western nations are inherently weak because they have been subverted, or that white people are inherently weak because a genocide is being committed upon them thanks to their altruism. It’s just not a good argument at all.
Angel Campbell
So say we need spirituality to reject materialism and degeneracy. I agree with that. But to form a community of spiritual people and come together. .how the fuck does that happen with paganism now? The west has been Christian for 2000 years and you're saying to flush all that and adopt something that is now alien if not dead and gone.
Dude think practically about what you're saying. Where am I going to go to "worship" as a pagan. With who? What do they even do? Are there rituals? What.
No, what you're actually going to do sit at your computer watching viking shit while Christians are actually out organizing and being motivated by an actual faith. Paganism is dead dude. Hell Christianity is on its way out too.
Landon Mitchell
Christianity embodies the rejection of the Jew, which is why it is the ultimate focus of all their hate. Just as Lucifer was the Lord’s favored angel, so too was Israel the Lord’s favored nation. Lucifer decided that his position in service to God was not enough and sought to elevate himself–even refusing to bow before Christ, thus stating that he was above God. The Jews, too, refused to honor God. Rather than doing as they ought and be the ‘holy nation’–the nation that was set apart from the rest of humanity, that was to serve as a light to all others–they became selfish, started to hate the other nations, and became greedy, claiming that they alone should be first among all men. Not only that, they created their ‘rabbinical doctrines’, which had been in the works for millennia, written by Scribes and Pharisees and culminating in the Talmud that it is today. They sought to elevate themselves and their word to that of God, if not above. They did just as Lucifer did. So Lucifer became Satan–the adversary. And the Israelites became the Jews–the sons of the Devil. Christians are God’s Kingdom now, and shall be forever.
Blake Lopez
The failure of our people in the past has always been from trusting Jews. There may well be some good ones, some who genuinely want to make the world a better place. The problem is every time they have been trusted, it has led to disaster. Every. Single. Time. I say enough. I think the rest of true Christendom agrees with me–we do not need them. We have our own great thinkers, our own great minds. Men of skill, men of purpose; men who can lead us out from this mire. We do not need anyone else; we do not need jews. One of the few things we will all agree on is nationalism. Due to our nationalist beliefs, we believe that the united people–be it by geographical location, by religion or by genetics–can build a society for ourselves. History has proven the truth of this–our nations being unquestioningly the greatest that the world has ever seen. What led to their downfall? Trusting the jew, taking their advice, accepting short-term gains over massive long-term losses. Small loans from Jews to help us with a war resulted in them worming their way into our society–into media, government, education, and recently even the Church where they defile our beliefs and the monuments we made to God. Taking their advice on immigration. Taking their advice in how we treat money–allowing usury, allowing international banks, allowing debt. Allowing them to brainwash our women into thinking a life of monotony and chasing a false currency is superior to that of raising a family. Allowing them to brainwash our children into believing that socialism is the path to utopia, that communism will work, that it only has not because our people just are not ‘good enough’ for it and thus must either be ‘reeducated’ or removed for their ‘hate crimes’. The Parasite is our eternal enemy. It is the child of the devil, and we are the followers of God. The adversary shall not triumph over us; we shall have nothing to do with it ever again. We shall serve as a bulwark against it, a mighty shield to protect our people from the beautiful lies of the deceiver, from the poisonous words of the children of he who masquerades as an angel of light. We know now to never trust them, and we never shall again. There is no need to ever ally with the Jew. If one says something good, express agreement and move on. Perhaps even say that it is a good idea and that as a Christian man of European heritage you may well seek to include it in your own nation, but never the Jew itself, never its people. We must remain forever separate. While it is a Jew it can be no brother of ours. It does not matter what it believes or what it says; it cannot be trusted. History has proven this. Revelations 18: Rejoice over her thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets. and of saints. and of all that were slain upon the earth. These merchants–by whose sorcery all nations have been deceived–shall be destroyed. They will pay for what they have done to our world; this time they will not escape the fires. They will be consumed in the wrath of God and we shall rejoice at the spectacle. The Lord's justice done, and our people finally avenged.
Xavier Lewis
You made it into a spam thread you retarded coward.
James Martin
Altruism tends to work pretty well in healthy, homogeneous societies.
Angel Moore
Reported.
Henry Thomas
The genetic altruism of whites flourished through Christian teachings. Teachings which–and intl hates to be reminded of this–tell you not to miscegenate and to kill anyone who threatens the safety of the group.
Josiah Robinson
You got some demon riding you.
Jose Russell
lol at presenting this as evidence of how enlightened they were this is like the one universal sign of a decadent society.
Zachary Cruz
No it didn't. And no it doesn't.
Asher Long
good morning, Holla Forums! i cant stay with you long cozza work stuff, but i've been reading your replies since i woke up! so far, the main argument for the good of christianity is that it produces morals in people, resulting in a less degenerate society.
so, i'll ask you what i've already asked and that is:
can you name three virtues christianity can produce or sustain in a person, which the person could not develop or sustain on his own?
Aaron Taylor
Reported for intl.
Jack Evans
Yep. Now go fuck yourself.
Daniel Martin
Sage the thread.
Christian Jones
Why would I support your degenerate behavior?
Jace Moore
Reported for intl, then.
Mason Martinez
Yet Christians can't help themselves when it comes to trying to spread their own NWO around the globe. Face it, Christianity is a mind virus that subjugated people adopted otherwise they would have been killed. Christianity was the exotic philosophy adopted by the disconnected elites of its time, and then forced upon the masses.
Isaac Butler
sage
Robert Jones
Nice argument, faggot.
Bentley Davis
You do realize that when reports are handled it goes into a log where everyone can see you don't actually report when you say you do.
So not only are you angry and disruptive, you are also a compulsive liar. Have you considered an exorcism?
Andrew Carter
sage
Jonathan King
You do realize that you’re reported for intl?
Nolan Gomez
Except I'm not?
Lincoln Taylor
lol sage
Jacob Wilson
Bump.
Sebastian White
sage
Jason Anderson
You should repent your ways and ask Jesus for forgiveness.
Noah Rivera
Bump.
Hudson Sanchez
sage
Aaron Robinson
sage
Austin Wood
Bump
Nicholas Cox
sage
Oliver Nguyen
Well, I take back what I said about Christians being far from the worse posters on Holla Forums.
At this point, you aren't even interested in discussion, just shutting down threads where you are getting destroyed.
For anyone interested, here is an excellent resource for responding to Christians
>>>/cucktianity/
Feel free to add to the information there. This toxic religion gets more and more exposed every day.
Ian Morris
Where do you "worship" as a Christain? The random building labeled "church"? The mega-mall "church"? Do you even need to "worship" anything? What's wrong with just organizing your community for a BBQ or creating your own local customs and traditions instead of perpetuating a desert myth? How can you forge a nation when you practice the adopted the rituals and religion of a people that isn't your own?
Brayden Garcia
sage
Brandon Ramirez
sage
John Long
First off, what's spiritual about Christianity? Repenting and begging Jewsus for free shit has nothing to do with spirituality. That being said, our ancestral religions are how our racial soul interprets Nature's Law and its forces, it's in our blood and definitely not alien or dead, it lives within us. You don't need a book to have a religion. Most Christian holidays are actually based on European rituals and festivals. Rituals, festivals, deities, sorcery and everything else that comprises European religions comes naturally from our European soul. There's no need to write a book about it and force other Europeans to read and remember it. All we need to do is to root out Semitic poisons that plague our people's minds and reconnect ourselves with Nature and its laws.
Austin Gomez
So retain Christianity and destroy Zionism. Got it.
Bentley Barnes
Jesus was a Jew-only preacher, it was Paul who changed his doctrine.
Technically, Paul went against Jesus' words and preached for the goyim.
Jesus would never have preached to non-jews (2 extraordinary exceptions in his lifetime).
Zachary Lopez
That's it. This spamnigger has convinced me.
I'm starting a 'pagan' temple and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
Lucas Hall
Reported for heresy. See: Blow your brains out.
Leo Kelly
They go to a beautiful church like this to meet with a nice feminist woman priest, or a priest like this who is into sex with godly black men, or a nice priest like this who is converting his church into a home for refugees.
It's a beautiful experience that you lowly non-Christians who defy the word of Jesus could never understand.
Deus Vult!
Jason Gutierrez
Enjoy being executed, intl.
Cooper Howard
>>>/reddit/
Read the bible. You're the heretic here.
Henry Gray
I just wish the dad would grab the baby's legs and smash thier heads into the ground. Only rabbi yashua Ben Josef could have ever convinced him that this was not the ultimate cuckening.
William King
Reported. Blow your brains out.
Joseph Garcia
Reported for intl.
Grayson Ramirez
That's not a real church is it? That's hideous.
Zachary Cruz
holy shit the autism
Easton Taylor
sage
Isaac Martin
wew lad
Gabriel Price
He was "touched by an Angel" as they say.
David Murphy
Imagine how excited Joseph would have been if he got to watch!
Michael Sullivan
www
Jordan Parker
Not an argument.
John Cooper
Yeah, it honestly is a church, one of the most grotesque buildings ever.
We can all acknowledge that many churches, particularly cathedrals, are extremely beautiful, but it has nothing to do with the religion. This is Exhibit A to demonstrate that.
Benjamin Barnes
If that doesn't prove Christianity is the ultimate cuck religion.
It would definitely take a miracle for any man to believe that line.
Dominic Wood
He actually makes Christcucks look bad with his faggotry, so I'm happy when he appears.
Jayden Hill
"Why does the son of God look half Roman, Mary?"
Noah Evans
...
Nathan Clark
Sorry Moonman. Being a Brony spammer isn't helping Christianity's reputation.
Sebastian Perez
Oh indeed. There is no debate about the beauty of Gothic cathedrals, but they were a product of European skill and creativity. Christianity just takes the credit. I don't think we, as a culture, would have much issue preserving them if they were more tied to the European people than the religion.
Joshua James
Not an argument.
Luke Campbell
Reported for intl.
Luis Murphy
sage
Carter Hill
Jews are simply Judeans in the time of Christ.
Levi Rodriguez
sage
Connor Garcia
Not an argument.
Nathan Roberts
sage
Aiden Murphy
I think you might be in this picture. I have a few ideas but nothing solid.
David Harris
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
CAN ANYTHING STOP HIM?
Zachary Anderson
The Christian God is not YHVH, but the trinity of father / son / holy ghost Stop playing jRPGs where you kill god at the end and read the bible.
Jackson Gonzalez
Yeah, Gothic architecture and style in general is very beautiful, I hope it will be reborn into something similar someday.
Cameron Ward
But it is you disingenuous Semite-worshipper.
Alexander Gomez
where's the proof, LARPer?
Joshua Reed
Jehovah which is YHWH's Latinized name is the God of the Hebrew Bible.
Anthony Long
sage
Bentley Anderson
Reported for intl.
Nathan Fisher
sage
Jace King
We could always start building castles again as societal art projects.
Grayson Collins
sage
Aaron Howard
lol intl
Noah Rodriguez
lol intl
Lucas Ross
even in kikespeak jehova means "ruiner" come on, chaim.
Nolan Baker
I think it has to happen naturally, otherwise it's just like forced memes.
Liam Foster
I feel like all these anti-Christ shills are just bitter gnostics.
Xavier Walker
Kill yourself
Thomas Morris
I meant more as "for our society" than as society as a whole, because yes it would totally feel forced to have government go "ok we building castles now". Best way to ruing good things is to get government or other authorities involved who have nothing to do with the good.
Caleb Powell
sage
Ryan Hernandez
sage
David Cox
Remember to sage.
Christian Davis
sage
Ian Powell
They’re intl. They don’t believe in anything but anti-Holla Forums.
Nolan Young
Remember to sage.
David Barnes
sage
Alexander Brown
You're retarded. It's Latinized kikespeak for YHWH.
Henry Moore
Something like Bishop's Castle.
Ian Clark
which would logically also mean ruiner, YHVH is some muh dick africa jew-demon. not the God of the bible
How the fuck are you in such denial? Sorry but some people actually believe that Christianity is indeed both Semitic and a cucked slave religion. Let's see, it was created by the Jewish Messiah in the Jewish homeland, using Jewish scriptures and Jewish history, prophesies and teachings. It was spread to other Jews, 100% of Jesus disciples were Jews religiously and racially. Then later another Jew named Saul spread the religion to slaves and dumb peasants. He instructed them to obey thier master, the government and to pay thier taxes because God put them in power and it was his will. Some of his earliest converts were niggers and when the Jewish and Greek converts couldn't get along he enforced a strict no racism policy to prevent racial hierarchy from forming.
What the fuck does this sound like if not a racial egalitarian Jewish as fuck cult for dumb slaves? Placing high value on poverty, meekness, humility, making pride sinful, making knowledge sinful, making becoming a god sinful, etc. all pagan virtues were made into sins. it's weakness and slavery because it was designed to be that way. Just like Islam is a psycho rape war cult for dumb niggers. They were designed by thier creators to be the way they are.
Jose Scott
I don't like it tbh. Pics related is what tickles my fancy.
Samuel Wilson
sage
Joshua Cruz
sage
Xavier Clark
Those would be massive projects, but still look great. If I understood the wiki, Bishop has been doing it mostly himself for 40 years.
Julian Turner
Sage the thread.
Dominic Perry
stolen money from white people to give it to an idiot who is preaching the yid hanging from the stick
Cooper Lopez
sage
Cameron Lewis
simply filter the spambot ID: 7cf2c7
Blake Ward
Roast in hell, intl.
Colton Brown
pick one ya pagan/atheist cuckolds
Chase Morales
okay, so heres what im going to do, im going to ignore that the religions are dualistic and there is CLEARLY two different entities at work in these stories, and im not going laying out all the evidence that youre full of shit because that takes hours, and every fucking time i post it you fucking fags ignore it, instead, but what I am going to do is post a passage from the bible, feel free to read it, then question your perspective:
Declare in Judah, and proclaim in Jerusalem, and say,
“Blow the trumpet through the land; cry aloud and say, Assemble, and let us go into the fortified cities!’
Raise a standard toward Zion, flee for safety, stay not, for I bring disaster from kthe north, land great destruction. A lion has gone up from his thicket, a destroyer of nations has set out; he has gone out from his place to make your land a waste; your cities will be ruins nwithout inhabitant.
For this oput on sackcloth, lament and wail, for pthe fierce anger of the Lord has not turned back from us.”
“In that day, declares the Lord, qcourage shall fail both king and officials. The priests shall be appalled and the prophets astounded.”
Then I said, “Ah, Lord God, rsurely you have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘It shall be well with you,’ whereas the sword has reached their very life.”
At that time it will be said to this people and to Jerusalem, “A hot wind from sthe bare heights in the desert toward the daughter of my people, not to winnow or cleanse, a wind too full for this comes for me. Now it is I who tspeak in judgment upon them.”
Behold, he comes up like clouds; uhis chariots like the whirlwind; his horses are vswifter than eagles— woe to us, wfor we are ruined! O Jerusalem, xwash your heart from evil, that you may be saved. How long shall your wicked thoughts lodge within you? For a voice declares from Dan and proclaims trouble from Mount Ephraim. Warn the nations that he is coming; announce to Jerusalem, “Besiegers come from a distant land; they shout against the cities of Judah. Like keepers of a field bare they against her all around, because she has rebelled against me, declares the Lord. Your ways and your deeds have brought this upon you. This is your doom, and cit is bitter; it has reached your very heart.” Anguish over Judah's Desolation
dMy anguish, my anguish! I writhe in pain! Oh the walls of my heart! My heart is beating wildly; I cannot keep silent, for I hear the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war. eCrash follows hard on crash; the whole land is laid waste. fSuddenly my tents are laid waste, my curtains in a moment. How long must I see the standard and hear the sound of the trumpet? “For my people are foolish; they know me not; they are stupid children; they have no understanding. They are ‘wise’—in doing evil! But how to do good they know not.”
I looked on the earth, and behold, it was without form and void; and to the heavens, and they had no light.
I looked on the mountains, and behold, they were quaking, and all the hills moved to and fro.
I looked, and behold, there was no man, and all the birds of the air had fled.
I looked, and behold, the fruitful land was a desert, and all its cities were laid in ruins before the Lord, before his fierce anger. For thus says the Lord, “The whole land shall be a desolation; oyet I will not make a full end.
“For this the earth shall mourn, and the heavens above be dark; for I have spoken; I have purposed; I have not relented, nor will I turn back.”
At the noise of horseman and archer every city takes to flight; they enter thickets; they climb among rocks; all the cities are forsaken, and no man dwells in them.
And you, O desolate one, what do you mean that you dress in scarlet, that you adorn yourself with ornaments of gold, that you enlarge your eyes with paint? In vain you beautify yourself. Your lovers despise you; they seek your life.
For I heard a cry as of a woman in labor, anguish as of one giving birth to her first child, the cry of the daughter of Zion gasping for breath, stretching out her hands, “Woe is me! I am fainting before murderers."
Ethan Rogers
But but but but but you’re just a “christcuck” shill! – intl
Robert Ross
What? I think that Bishop was just his surname.
Yeah, but that's just style, it can be applied to every building.
Kevin Lopez
forgot my image, how embarrassing
Bentley Nguyen
She's obviously mentally ill. That's a hard case to make for Christians who keep trying to import 3rd world trash because "muh Christian persecution".
William Torres
Now that's fancy.
Ethan Anderson
Damn, I didn't even read that! Christians are the most insane form of parasites.
Those are magnificent, but Bishop's Castle is the work of one man and his quirky personal vision, supported by donations from those who visit the castle.
Yeah, as the other user said, Bishop is his last name. If anything, the castle has a pagan vibe with the dragon.
Joseph Cox
No joke yourself bub. No one with influence has ever imported shitskins based off their religion. Even if they say thats why, its not.
Nathan Cox
i think you are an idiot taking people with geen hair serious. so you also admit that you are weaker minded than a woman and listen to her babbling.
you are literally a cuck who is watching retard woman
your home >>>/christian/ >>>/pone/
Colton Robinson
Why are you posting pictures of muds trying to adopt European culture?
Kind of like how we'll never know the motives of ISIS.
Jack Gray
>time to blow these anti Christian SHILLS the fuck out. Christianity is NOT Jewish!
Lad…
Jacob Myers
This is one of the arguments that Christcucks fall back on, finding some losers who call themselves pagan.
What they never show is an institutional drive by pagan groups to, say, bring in refugees or adopt niglets. That is a proud Christian tradition.
Elijah Myers
sage
Chase Bell
100+ posts shilling for a foreign religion, truly a shitposter ready for the gallows.
If every race traitor were to die in the next moment, not a single Christcuck would remain.
Joseph Kelly
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Daniel Cruz
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Nathan Carter
Fuck you deth metal fans, sweden is a piece of crap, the worse piece of shit in that fucking muslim hellhole called europe, you dont have the right to say anything, the only thing that you are showing to the world is that dumping christianity is equal to dump civilization.
Keep moving your heads up and down in the air while muslims move their heads up and down inside your women you stupid tard
Julian Gomez
REMEMBER TO FILTER SPAMBOTS
-no discussion -no fact or arguments -anime pics etc
Im not seriously labeling pagans like this, because im not pathetic enough for that, but ill tell you something
A friend of mine is a studying norse pagan priest, and he literally said to me the other day "Odin doesnt care what race you are"
is a male, no dyed hair, none of that.
My point is that maybe you should stop looking for excuses and just admit that cherry picking is BS, its the text that matters, and this is all d&c you pagans are falling for.
Jacob Anderson
they went out of arguments so they try the spam and bumplock tactic its no longer a discussion about christianity but only provocations, derails and shitposts
Michael Richardson
THIS. Holla Forums needs to purge the white trash from this board and stop making race (an ill-defined concept to begin with) their biggest concern. Religion is far more important.
Cooper Ortiz
The German National Socialists were Christian so it must be the people not the religion. These are white people brought up to be extremely moral. When the media is constantly telling them loving shitskins is moral, they are being exploited. Not the religion IMO. Thats why I'm a christian and I hate niggers/jews. :^)
Josiah Price
Literally every good thing in history comes from some authority, dumbass. Plebs don't just spontaneously build cathedrals.
Caleb Gutierrez
uses typical language of a shill, pretending that he is on my level and one of "us"
SHILL CONFIRMED
Thomas Diaz
That friend of yours is retarded, European ancestral religions are racial. They made by Europeans for Euroepans, while Christianity is universalist.
Kek, he sure did a lot of studying.
"Óðinn actually sends Heimdallr to Earth to create a better human race. His first attempt is called Trell (Thrall), but he is black, ugly and stupid, so Heimdallr pays no attention to him and keeps trying. The next result is Karl (Free Man), who had red-brown hair, is tall and strong. He is still not satisfied though, so he keeps trying. Then finally he gets a son called Jarl (Proto-Norse *EirilaR, English Earl), that is fair-eyed, intelligent, beautiful and fair (European). Heimdallr had finally created a man who is good enough for Óðinn and Valhalla, so he teaches him - and only him - the runes (secrets) of the gods and Valhalla is opened up to his kin. His kin is the only one that will be let over the bridge that leads to Ásgarðr ("the court of the Æsir" or "the yard of the Æsir"). The others will ignite and fall down like rocks if they set their foot on this bridge, that is guarded by Heimdallr."
If you can read that "jewish scripture" and write it off as propaganda for the jews, youve got some issues. Fags need to stop taking everything in the bible so literally, youre no better than fundie christians
Henry Gomez
So mods are fags again… thanks.
Ryan James
I didn't read it. Do you know why? Because I just don't give a fuck what it says. It's strung together bullshit plundered from the Jewish holy scriptures. If you can't even see that you believe a thoroughly Jewish religion then who cares what you say? It couldn't possibly be more obvious who created it or who wrote it.
Bentley Cox
If Cuckstianity was aligned with nationalist interests, where was the great crusade to aid the Reich? No, instead there were only other Cuckstian nations bombing Germany into oblivion and justifying it in the name of Yeshua. As always, Cuckstians proved themselves to be willing race traitors.
Juan Hughes
there is not really much mods can do. if you ban one spammer he gets a new ip and starts spamming again. if they bumplock the thread then the shills have archived what they want.
thats why the best thing is to not to respond to spammers and obvious shills or filter them
Sebastian Gray
okay boss
Are you a norse pagan priest? just curious.
So very very wrong. Christianity even in its most broad interpretation (the one that you dont like because it doesnt hate niggers) is not very different from buddhism, in that our time on earth is a series of tests, and the ultimate goal is to release our souls from the binds of the earth (something jews arent allowed to do, according to their own book, by the way) and become one with god.
In a more narrow interpretation, the one that actually explains all the strange passages that quote jesus as saying weird shit about being there for the jews and whatnot, is that jesus is exactly what god threatened the jews with, that is, their reckoning. Jesus was sent for the jews, as in, his whole goal was to convert the jews away from moloch and the devil, he never organized a religion, but instead told his followers to go out and convert them. Give the jew two chances to come back to god, and after that, let him be so that he may be bound to the earth forever.
This is part of the plan though, the jews were never going to convert, this was god just fucking with them, the men from the north he said he would send? What happened in the middle ages? christianity took over europe, and the men from the north laid siege to the people of the south, just as promised.
In other words, christianity's entire point is not to be a racial religion for its followers, but for its follower's enemy, its an antisemetic religion, and it had been for a long time before people forgot why they were taught to treat the jews as subhuman.
Will report to him what youve said, well see his retort, though im not seeing the part in that passage where it says "kill all the niggers!" which according to any topic like this one is a prerequisite for a religion to not be trash.
Charles Evans
You can do better than that…
Henry King
So Christians were bombing Christians but they were doing it in the name of Christianity. Get dismantled kid. Take notes from this Christian who is intellectually slaughtering you.
Evan Garcia
so why are you in the topic? If you cant maintain proper discourse, then you are a fucking D&C shill and you gotta go.
Daniel King
I dont have anything against pagans or atheists though. Just the fedoras who are anti-christian. If you are anti-christian you are pro jew. I said it once and Ill say it again. It will be continued to be dodged by you as well. I am calling this out beforehand
Evan Myers
So Christians were bombing Christians but they were doing it in the name of Christianity. Get dismantled kid. Take notes from this Christian who is intellectually slaughtering you.
(had to repost)
Ethan Campbell
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Isaac Morgan
Why are we arguing? I thought Christians were supposed to turn the other cheek and let the other person win?
Parker Wood
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Jayden Hughes
NOTHING is more important to those race traitors than shilling for Yeshua. The entire reason for their existence becomes the promotion of Semitic interests. This is a central aspect of their shitskin religion, because otherwise it would be rejected by other populations. One has to be groomed into an actively participating race traitor (thus why all Cuckstians promote white genocide in various ways) or else one has to face the cognitive dissonance which exists for all race traitors. If they allow the thought that there can be any path other than Cuckstianity, they have to deal with the crippling anxiety of having sold their souls to foreign interests while other men choose traditionalist ideology.
David Jackson
I just read it and it's as thoroughly Jewish as anything else from ol Rabbi Yashua's tome of Hebrew history and wisdom.
Hunter Fisher
Turning the other cheek isnt "just give in" you moron.
turn the other cheek, as in, present him with the other cheek and challenge him to slap it? Jesus is obsessed with second chances, that is the point of giving them a second chance. Someone might attack you out of passion, and you should give them the chance to back down, instead of immediately escalating shit like a nigger.
Adam Morgan
It is true that Jesus said to turn the other cheek in Matthew 5:38-42. However, many scholars do not believe pacifism (or nonresistance) is the essential point of His teaching in this passage. These scholars do not believe Jesus was teaching to "turn the other cheek" in virtually all circumstances. Even Christ did not literally turn the other cheek when smitten by a member of the Sanhedrin (see John 18:22-23).
Prior to His crucifixion, Jesus revealed to His disciples the future hostility they would face and encouraged them to sell their outer garments in order to buy a sword (Luke 22:36-38; cf. 2 Corinthians 11:26-27). Here the "sword" (Greek: maxairan) is a dagger or short sword that belonged to the Judean traveler's equipment as protection against robbers and wild animals. A plain reading of the passage indicates that Jesus approved of self-defense.
Jaxon Green
I'm going to ignore this ridiculous question.
No, it's you who's wrong, European religions are racial, they are made by Europeans and are for Europeans only. Christianity is in fact a universalist religion, everyone can become a Christian. It is based on Jewish mythology and foreign to Europe. Denying this is being either dishonest or delusional.
Jack Flores
Fuck off, anyone can call themselves that. Just because some fucking wiccatruar goes around spreading lies doesn't mean he has any authority. What that user posted clearly refuted you, he posted facts that show that Asatru is racialist.
Christianity is not racialist, these are facts.
Zachary Bailey
Wow, excellent job reading the post, moron I didnt even say that, I talked exclusively about christianity you faggot, either read my post before you reply or dont reply at all.
Jason Morris
But we can do raids against them, we just need some ips and instructions.
Nolan King
Funny, he went on a rant about you guys being wiccan fags who just make shit up to suit them.
like i said, ill ask him about this next i talk to him
it hasnt, its implicit, not explicit, no surprise though since they hardly imagined a scenario like this.
read the post, cunt.
Carter Bailey
Getting angry after being rekt the second time? I wrote it again to show the difference between ancestral and universalist religions.
You forgot to quote the rest:
Colton Moore
but why? why try to turn a jewish desert cult based on worshipping a kike, apoligizing for the sins you didn't commit and being oppressed into an all white pride religion when that can already be found in european folk religions? as long as you weed out wiccafags and look for organisations such as AFA and Odin's folk, you'll find a faith that values strenght, morals and has0 the (nuclear) family at it's base.
Hunter Martin
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Jack Ward
Holy shit I've been trying to make myself like Christianity lately but you guys are making it hard.
Nolan Thomas
No he didn't.
Logan Diaz
The glorious butthurt when AFA denounced fags.
Jaxson Adams
good thing we dont live for your approval faggot. Go sacrifice a goat or something.
Daniel Torres
this
Sebastian Miller
because its proven that cultural Christianity works. This means following the new testament. The new testament doesn't say racemix or import shitskins to your country.
Josiah Perry
Funny thing, considering the fact that the reason Jews are called kikes is precisely because of Him who you speak of as kike, specifically their hatred and disdain for Him
Parker Edwards
Read the bible instead of paraphrasing shit without even grasping its context you stupid nigger.
You are literally the same as faggots and liberals screaming " UUUMMMMM doesn't the bible comand you to love me!? like UUUUUMMMM be a good christian and die"
Liam Murphy
Oh so that's how you justify your "faith". You interpret it as you need it. Very jewish thing to do.
What?
Jews hate everything that isn't currency.
Grayson Bennett
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Isaiah Thompson
KIKES FEAR GENUINE ASATRU KIKES FEAR GENUINE CHRISTIANITY
NO Holla ForumsACK FITS THE STRAWMEN POSTED BY D&C KIKES NO MATTER THEIR RELIGION
SAY NO TO D&C
John Richardson
KIKES FEAR GENUINE ASATRU KIKES FEAR GENUINE CHRISTIANITY
NO Holla ForumsACK FITS THE STRAWMEN POSTED BY D&C KIKES NO MATTER THEIR RELIGION
SAY NO TO D&C SAY NO TO D&C
Dominic Moore
kek
Levi Long
"Loving your enemy" means to try to set them into the path of righteousness (so they are enemies no more), not bending over and getting fucked in the ass. "Putting son against father" means to do this even if your enemies are family, not being a "race traitor".
Judging by how many threads there are about "help me my family is full of cucks" and "let's spread or knowledge to help people see the truth", Holla Forums is by definiton, on a fundamental level, a christian board.
Jackass.
Nathaniel Lewis
lol no gothic architecture is a form of white privilege cuz the goths raided rome and slaughtered the kangs because problematic
Grayson Taylor
kek
William Collins
Getting rekt? you fucking arent even reading the post you cock goblin, youre just spitting out canned posts now.
Luke Cooper
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Ryder Hall
Sounds like cucking to me. "Hey, lets import refugees and set them on the path to righteousness!"
Christcucks say the same thing about America. How's that working?
Isaac Green
not gonna comment on the other guy, but what about "give him a second chance before you act" makes it hard?
Are you a nigger? When some guy calls you a mean name do you chimp out on him, faggot?
What bullshit. You are rationalizing because what is written in your holy book is so insane. The very next verse is
Matthew 5:40
You don't even know your own stupid book. You read interpretations written by others to make it seem less ridiculous.
Dylan Adams
That's nothing more to talk about. Christianity is unversalist religion of Semitic origins and European ancestral religions are racial, made by Europeans for Europeans. That destroys the whole point that you were making. Sorry m8, but there's really nothing you can do to change the fact that you've been BTFO, just like you can't change the fact that Christianity is universalist religion of Semitic origins, foreign to Europe and Europeans.
Landon Nelson
Why is "faith" in scarequotes? Are you really that stupid? Im not justifying any faith of mine, Christianity is a philosophy and tool, and im not interpreting it as i need it, im just not stupid enough to take it literally.
again, "remove the foreskin of your heart" how are you taking that literally, again? You arent, fag, because your heart doesnt have a foreskin, its a series of fucking poems you massive autist and to take it literally is to fundamentally misunderstand it.
Dominic Allen
all Christian thought leads to the rejection of race
exactly
Jayden Nguyen
good posts.
Jason White
Rekt.
I have $20 that says that the next reply will be some variation on >Protestants
David Thomas
I have no need for your primordial white nigger worship of rocks.
Ayden Butler
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Anthony Turner
Instead of chimping out and calling people niggers and faggots… why don't you "give him a second chance before you act?"
Spread those cheeks, cuck.
Zachary Harris
you are in for another redpill bomb, jewboy :)
Camden Bennett
No. No it isn't. Christianity is a religion born of a jewish cult. White European creativity is the only thing that can come close to defending because it's so ridiculous White people invent meanings to justify following it. The Asians don't do that . They just submit to the authority. Whites could be free of this mess if they would just let go of the stories.
Mason Robinson
Nice fallacy nigger, keep putting bullshit in the doctrine though, totally doesn't look like you are grasping at straws like the retarded faggot whitout and argument you are btw, it's called "missionary work" and you export the law of god, not the barbarians that would be better off following it
wew nigger are your eyebrows on fire by thinking of that masterful retort?
Hudson Robinson
Without turning this protracted D&C bait thread into a discussion on schism, it's important to note that Luther, Calvin, and Waldo's movements were constructed upon the culture developed by the Catholic Church. As such, analyzing tangent Protestant cultures for the purpose of critiquing their original organizational prototype is inappropriate.
Henry Morris
great consistency there, shill
Jordan Wilson
Weakness is attracted to strength because strength is a virtue. Christianity is one of the only religions that has managed to make weakness look like strength, thus attracting slaves, the weakest people of all. Bravo for those muds wanted to be White.
Colton Hughes
All christian thought leads to the rejection of race as a determining factor on your personal virtues, jacking off to IQ graphics and crime statistics makes you forget that your kin is also capable of great evil, judging by how, out of all races, whites spread and enforce jewish lies the most should be your wake up call that racial cohesion in not the end of all goals, without godly morals guiding people, racial presservation is meaningless.
Matthew Jackson
Pick one
That's probably how the jews fucked them. They probably started with some feminist bullshit to give more decisional power to women and then used that to destroy them through mass immigration and miscegenation supported by retarded women
Logan Allen
Oh you mean like Christians have been doing in Africa? Fantastic boon to the world that has been.
What's so fun about those anti-pagan christcuck meme collages is… those are an extreme minority of pagans, so few you have to really look to find them.
Meanwhile, non-degenerate christcucks are an extreme minority of christcucks, so few you have to really look to find them.
I can do an image search for 10 seconds and find tons of pictures of the leadership of all christcuck denominations engaging in heavy degeneracy. You have to scour and search to find some obscure "pagan" no one knows or have ever heard of.
That's what's so great with christcuck memes. They are as delusional as leftypol memes.
Colton Scott
It seems to me that Europeans twisted Christianity into a monotheistic version of their pagan religions, with many of the same traditions. Building large stone buildings with religious artwork came from the Romans pagan temples. The Crusades and trial by combat came from the northern European warrior culture and Wotanism. The only thing I can think of that was not uniquely European was the pacifist, guilt complex that Christianity pushes, as well as the Cannibalistic act of communion.
Evan Roberts
Ha ha, you won:
Calvin was as obsessed with the Bible and what was written in it as any major Christian leader in history.
If you want to argue for the Catholic Church, then that is a different position than most Christians on here, who always bring up the New Testament and complain that nobody else reads the Bible.
I brought up Limpieza de Sangre earlier as an example of the Catholic Church being anti-racist even 500+ years ago
Isaiah Cruz
I dont even own one, you larping sperg.
OH NO, YOUVE REALLY GOT ME THERE!
full verses from 2 seconds of googling:
Woah there, whats that? The whole passage is about not resisting the wicked? What ever could that mean?! wait wait wait, what was that last line? Holy shit guys, jesus wanted jews to stop being greedy? how cuckish, jews should be wealthy and powerful!
again, jesus is the second chance, he always offers the second chance, in this case he is telling the jews to be as he is, without lust for the material and to be lenient people, just as all non jews already are. Your fantasy about viking men who would just flip out and commit genocide when someone bumped into them at walmart is fucking rediculous, "turning the other cheek" is what rational human beings already fucking do, and hes trying to get the jews to start acting like rational human beings.
Jaxon Walker
I'll take "what is straw man 6,000,000" for $100.
Robert Bailey
Remove the foreskin of your heart? Can you not see how psychotic that sounds? "Just chop off the dick skin of your heart instead of your actual dick, goyim!" Why do you worship a god that told his chosen people to chop thier dicks off?
Leo Howard
please return to your reddit circlejerk.
Andrew Adams
hehe try again shill
Aiden Smith
Why do people spend so much time quarreling over esoteric bullshit like this christianity vs paganism shit when we have an are aware of the tangible shitstorm approaching just on the horizon?
These seem like discussions for later and it feels kind of silly seeing them surrounded by so many threads about tangible issues.
David Ross
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Jason Jenkins
here, have a white pagan instead :)
Bentley Parker
the fuck man. Christianity is about a Messiah pissing off kikes and roman admins in a nutshell, and then they Crucify him due to sheer butthurt.
Matthew Reed
See this:
Luke Miller
Nice try, Christcuck.
Jack Miller
Yeah, you prove my point. Some old faggot no one ever heard or cares about is gay and coincidentally also pagan.
Meanwhile…
Julian Rodriguez
again with the consistency little kike?
Jace Moore
1. not a jew, dont have to follow those rules 2. not how that rule works anyway 3. this thread has been pagan larping 24/7 for months now thanks to you morons eating d&c bait, the cheek has been turned.
Oh, well if christianity is what a pagan says it is, i guess it be.
You realize that by the incredibly loose definition of that fallacy you are using, there is no point in groups existing on this planet because they would all at some point fall into "no true scotsman"?
like Holla Forums, if one guy from Holla Forums says hes a nigger loving trap cuck, and you say he doesnt represent Holla Forums, Someone can just say "hurr no true scotsman"
you know theres a fucking fallacy dedicated to improper use of fallacy?
Dylan Mitchell
user that's just spreading the word of God like Jesus wanted you to do. You know, suck your enemies toes and if he wants to to sue your for your wife then give him to her and prep him.
Jaxon Morales
I've noticed generally that, among Holla Forums types, dislike of Christianity increases in direct proportion to ignorance of European history.
Isaiah Allen
See this:
Luke Jenkins
Pacifism, pathological altruism, and guilt obsession are not culturally Christian inventions.
Freemasons and Zionists pushed those narratives for the purpose of disarming Christianity and weakening its institution.
The Catholic Church compiled the Bible.
I can't speak for the innumerable sects of Protestantism, but race-mixing and cultural consolidation have never been traditions of the Church. All of these contemporary liberal priests that push pop-culture over Church doctrine are a new phenomenon consisting of a mixture of old Soviet and Zionist infiltrators as well as homosexual cabals seeking a more closed off and advantageous position to practice their lifestyles.
Christianity simply states that it's good for all people. Not that all cultures and races should mix under its banner. France, England, and Spain were all Catholic; did you see them forming a European Union? No.
The same goes for North African Christendom (before it was destroyed by Islam). Even though they held the same belief systems as Western and Eastern Christendom, none of them preached, or even felt the desire, to intermix.
Brayden Jenkins
Daily reminder that white males are the strongest , most intelligent, most humane and creative organisms in the universe.
Logan Wilson
I can't get seriously irritated at the anti-christian posters here because they are totally clueless on christianity or are Disinfo agents.
Ryder Jackson
wtf Im an atheist/pagan now. Dont worry he is probably a genius and portrayed christians as the true victims in the upcoming muzzie attacks.
Kevin Morgan
They're in the bible.
Gavin Hughes
bingo. my second post in there included an image of jesus along side lugh lamhfada, the artist was an irish catholic who installed the stained glass at a catholic school. The reasoning behind depicting them side by side is that they are parallel entities. The celts, did an admirable job of joining their new faith and old traditions, and it was pretty easy, not only did their old myths often reflect the new, they saw them as cycles of events, lugh being the light bringers of a previous cycle, and jesus of the current.
This is a little off though, the crusades were a result of hundreds of years of saracen raids and jihads.
Adrian Rodriguez
European civilization made christianity great, not the other way around, ask ethiopia.
I'am sorry, but i have to be honest, any person who has spent considerable time on Holla Forums and is still clinging to christianity at this point is either in denial, or is ignorant. Exeption being decendents of european spaniards or portuguese, they were already christian BY CHOICE, unlike in norther germany, scandinavia and england were christianity was pushed by force upon the ppulace worse than SJW'ism tries to do today.
I don't have a problem with the teaching themselves, if they are done with good intent, racial responsibility and community in mind.
What christians NEED to understand and stop lying to themselves about, is the jewish origins,content and character of christianity, don't even try to deny it.
I'am fine if they want to practice it with their families and christian neighbhors, what is definitely not acceptable, and should NOT ever be acceptable in a new reich, is shameless christian proselitism. First, because its easy as fuck to be infiltrated, as shown by many of the current christian denominations. Second because saying christianity is the root of european identity is simply a filthy lie. I'am sorry, but it is, and you and everyone else knows it.
Luke Lopez
You realize that every criticism of Christianity is met with "they're not TRUE Christians".
Yes, and you're committing it right now by insinuating that I'm misusing a fallacy and that my point is invalid.
Zachary Nelson
TURN THE OTHER CHEEK FALSE INFO SHILLS BTFO
Connor Hughes
Jesus washed the feet of his Disciples who basically were his Elite when Christianity was in Cult status.
A way to show apreciation and humility at the same time.
Same concept as King Arthur despite being King sitting with his Knights in a Round Table where it's implied they are all in same leve.
Austin Gonzalez
Obviously he's not a TRUE Christian.
Christopher Phillips
The abstract informs the physical, or do you really want to fight for the kosher gay reich just to expel non whites? do you really think that will solve something? there is a reason why things got this bad in the first place, and it's not a flood of shitskins, they are just the end result.
You just said christians are what's keeping africa afloat by doing missionary work, completely ignoring the millions of dollars sent by the american government, a secular, if not outright satanic institution. It's not my fault you are so fucking stupid as to believe evangelization is the bane of western civilizaion
Josiah Rodriguez
Everyone god's children, no difference between greek, jew, male, female, ..
Lincoln Young
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Liam Ward
It's christianity fault!!!! t. fedora useful idiot of his jewish lords
Lucas Nguyen
That first quote is actually in my copy of Meditations. If you are going to claim a quote is false why don't you put some actual substance in your post like, you know, evidence or some gay shit like that?
We can play this game for years, kike. But you are putting together too much wood, one day there will be a fire.
Leo Garcia
This. I really don't mind that people are christian in private. I've met moral and good christians although they are a minority.
What can never be accepted again is any sort of proselytizing. Things turned to shit during their watch, and it's obvious their spiritual system provided it's adherents with very little resistance to subversion.
The pagans at least had to be murdered en masse, tortured and have their wives kidnapped until they gave up. Your average christian just converts to marxism as if it was putting on another pair of pants.
Grayson Bell
/thread
Hudson Carter
Which language is your meditations?
Asher Phillips
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Easton Rogers
Protip: most of Europe converted to Christendom. Read a book my mane's
Gavin Hill
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Eli Howard
English as translated by Gregory Hays. If you were truly advocating that you would have posted a quote in Greek. But that's besides the point that if you are going to make claims you should back them up. This isn't reddit, we don't listen and believe here.
Gavin Morgan
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Wyatt Martin
This is terrible propaganda.
I assume there is some sort of backstory here, but you have to show that so the reaction appears justified.
This just comes off as some lunatic attacking some random nigger passing by on the street for no reason.
Ian Thomas
There are ethics and morals without a god.
Isaiah Ross
One book isn't enough, my cucked friend.
Kevin Perry
It is Cuckstianity's fault. All Christcucks are race traitors, and race traitors are the #1 threat to our race.
Colton Kelly
Pagans had proud Warrior "might makes right" religion.
So they wanted a Fight to see if Christianity was superior or not.
Christians won the physical fight, even by pagan standards Christianity became the correct one.
That said, I do agree proselyting shouldn't be done, simply people living Christian lives should be exemplary enough to have others want to convert in wishing to follow model
It always was, before Christianity. I was speaking of Europe. Christianity was a Roman Empire religion, not a religion for Aztecs/Mayans/etc.
Dylan Edwards
King Arthur is pre-Christian story, describing the test where those who wanted to become king needed to go through in order to prove their worthiness of becoming the leader of their people. It has nothing to do with Christianity, just like the majority of other fairytales.
Christopher Torres
It's so obvious, but with Jesus on the brain it can't be seen.
Justin Walker
I JUST asked how you were meant to take that literally and you respond with
jackass, you cant, there is no foreskin of the heart. Its important to know the full context, the foreskin removal is very, very unlikely to be a covenant with the one true god, as he redacts it later on, instead, it seems to be a covenant with moloch, there is even a passage where "god" tries to assassinate moses inexplicably, until he is offered foreskin, again, considering it is a dualistic religion, and that the devil is frequently reported to be a trickster whom imitates god, it is reasonable to say that this is the work of the jews's second diety, moloch.
considering this, the passage makes more sense, god suggesting that instead of doing moloch's bidding and removing your foreskin in physical sacrifice, the jews must alter their hearts (non literal) in sacrifice to him.
Jaxson Mitchell
Retarded.
King Arthur is based on General Arthurius during Fall of Rome Period, and on an actual King Arthur post fall of rome period.
Legend if based on those 2 characters, and those 2 characters already had Christianty..
I mean King Arthur was seeking the Holy Grail, which is a Christianity Artifact.
Are you dumb or a disinfo agent?
Owen Wood
That's not how the "game" works, he made a claim such came from jews and freemasons, except it comes from the bible, so he is incorrect.
Hunter Butler
Yeah you live for a Jewish god's approval, and you get it by sacrificing your own people to them.
Leo Wood
No. They are not.
Your soul is always the chief concern of your behavior and belief system regardless of who you help out. That's not altruistic in the least.
Christ was intolerant, violent, confrontational, and insulting. In many respects, He was a troll in how He provoked people with parables and word games to make a theological point. Christ was warlike: He gave us the sword (internal peace), and He never criticized anyone else for owning one (Before anyone brings it up: Christ did not demonstrate a principle issue with "living by the sword". He simply didn't want His apostles to take that path).
Scripture is adamant to point out that guilt is the mind-killer. In its most virulent form, it's known as "despair". At which point, it becomes a kind of intoxicant upon which people become dependent and use as a means of excusing themselves from staying in God's presence (see also: Adam and Eve fleeing from God in the garden). The reason we have confession is to relieve guilt, and not to fixate on it.
As Pope Leo XIII pointed, this pop-culture tampering and and evolution of the Church's perception in the public consciousness is a result of Americanism. Heresy.
Luis Baker
Yours is a moot point, i don't defend atheism, in fact, i abhor it, it is a cult for the spiritualy weak and intelectualy arrogant.
Look man, i'am not a shill, nor am i saying this stuff to piss christians off. Christianity IS a spin-off of judaism, and its ridiculous you guys trying to hide that fact on fucking Holla Forums of all places.
Look, understand something, i dont hate you or your religion as a whole, but its borderline insulting coming to Holla Forums, one of the few places left in the world were i can discuss my european heritage wich dates back THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
This is why people get pissed at christianity, its this proselitysm, the "tryhard" aspect of it. The very notion you consider yourself wiser or spiritualy superior because you will be "saving" my soul is the epitome of arrogance. Tell me something, once your christian soul is "saved", what are you going to do?
Are you going to confronty Yaweh? Are you going to ask god why he chose the jews over everyone else? Are you going to ask god why he told the muslims they culd rape and pillage european lands with no guilt?
I'am dead serious, to everyone who reads this post. Take some time for yourself, and delve into your own relationship with god (or gods).
And really, really ask yourselv this question:
Why am i serving Yaweh?
Thomas Rogers
The "pagans" are D&C shills who try to undermine the board and slide topics, the pagans are stupid enough to fall for it, and the christians are stupid enough to respond with cucky garbage.
Because some of the pagans are clearly not shills, i think it is important to try and steer them away from this nonsense, so the shills will lose their power.
hasnt worked yet though, some of these fuckers are obsessed.
Benjamin Thompson
reminds of "trump is bad because hitler" and "trump is bad because too jewish" arguments.
tl;dr - Pagan had "might makes right" mindset, and well, Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword.
Adrian Richardson
the lying Jew Jesus is not God he's a Jewish imposter and pushing the lying kike's values makes for a very shitty planet
Blake King
protip: no real Pagan will call himself a Pagan.
Do minimal philological research and you will find why. They are insulting themselves.
William Scott
heres an easy way to tell youre a moron:
is it in the book? no? okay then, probably not a true christian.
HOLY FUCK, ITS THE SAME SHIT YOU DO WITH THE PAGAN STORIES, BUT APPLIED TO CHRISTIANS, ITS LIKE FUCKING MAGIC
i commit no fallacy, you cannot commit that fallacy by pointing out that someone is misusing a fallacy, you are a moron relying on memes to make your arugments, kill yourself.
Jeremiah Allen
Again, Christcucks can't even see the point when it's spelled out clearly. Chopping off part of your dick is psycho. Jew God told Abraham to chop his dick. The idea that this God is loving and wonderful and blah blah blah is fucking crazy from that single idea alone. Wow thanks so much Jew God for saying we don't have to chop our dicks like you demanded we do before! Is all just an insane Semitic story that's my entire point.
Sebastian Myers
I dont really give a shit about pagans, dude, but thanks for the info.
the very thing you just posted was in reply to the answer you seek.
You mean the waste of European lives fighting for a Semitic holy land?
Aryans were "the noble ones", not "the strong"
Levi Russell
Kikes still hate Christians, moishe. No amount of shitposting will ever change that.
Gabriel Russell
Unlike the americas, spaniards where already part moor and didn't exterminated the natives, but formed political alliances and mixed with them to conquer the most territory. You are going to tell me that's on religion too when englishmen remained pure for the most part in the process of extending their empire?
Yeah, also the other secular white western first world nations, but that's completely besides the point. Yeah mate, charity work and proselytism is the driving force behind african demographic explosion, right.
Oh really? Where are the ethics and morals of the secularized western world then?
Liam Fisher
You're the one that's retarded and don't know shit about European history like the rest of your cucked brethren. That's why he pulls the sword out of the rock, it's was a pagan custom to stick a sword in thick object, like wood, if the current King couldn't fullfill his promise, and the one that pulled it out bet his honour on fulfilling that promise. Christian elements were added after Christians spread their cuckery all over Europe, the story of king arthur predates Christianity. It's the same with the Snow White, which describes the beauty contest, where the fairest of them all gets to be Queen. If you'd know anything about the May Queen and King and other similar festivals and initialisations, you'd know these stories describe them.
Tyler Bailey
Is that supposed to sound like mystical wisdom? Give me a fucking break.
Luis Gray
Ok, regardless if you are atheist, "pagan", christian, useful idiot or anything else, here is quick reference to spot D&C shills:
- Call themselves Pagan. - Extrapolate craziest conclusions from the Bible - Say Christianity is weak religion, then right after whine about the Crusades being too strong and unstopabble - Cherrypick Bible quote giving fake context - Say Christianity is bad because of semitic roots, but defends Jews as chosen people - Quote Christianity in a Socialist angle
Thomas Lewis
You mean the only reason you're not speaking arabic and praying to the moon god 5 times a day?
Ryan Harris
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Colton Garcia
But do they really? We only got their word on it after all. And they are pretty much always lying.
Remember, there would be no kikes in Europe at all if it wasn't for Christianity.
Isaac Brown
Hey man read this: and this:
Just because it isn't in the book LITERALLY doesn't mean it isn't there. You might have to interpret it, and if it is there LITERALLY then you probably shouldn't take it LITERALLY. Or something.
Literally.
James Davis
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Lucas Myers
Crusades are the reason you are not speaking Arabic praying to moon God.
Yet… as things are, Eurabia has been further away.
Your secularism is getting you closer to Islam as being the answer.
Carter Flores
faggots
Zachary Anderson
Given Indo-European migration routes and the Aryan concept as a Geneological one rather than Ideological (modern Germanics have little in common with Ancient Aryans from Indo European migrations, aswell as Hyperboreans), you are correct.
Ethan Rodriguez
Islam would not have come to exist if not for Cuckstianity, such is common knowledge here, ya know? You cucks should really stop trying to use your false narratives to justify your treason.
Nolan Sanders
who's being cuckish here?
useful idiots everywhere..
Julian Jenkins
wew
Andrew Clark
Its not mystical wisdom you fuckass, its the answer to the original inquiry, the same answer you are ignoring so you can set up dick cutting straw men
learn to read
good luck getting anyone to follow this
youre right, we should literally cut the pericardium from our chests because god said so, jews have been doing it for centuries and it seems to have worked out.
this is painfully retarded Islam is the result of a butthurt cult leader getting mad at zoroastrians, you moron.
Kayden Green
Crusades are the reason why Constantinople fell, see 1st Crusade. Crusades were a failure and humiliating defeat for Europe. Spain and Eastern Europe were occupied by shitskins while the Pope and his kike buddies were trading with the Ottomans. Where were crusaders when Vlad Tepes fought against the foreign hordes in the East? Right, the Pope called him a heretic.
James Ortiz
Praise the dick chopper, the kike and the holy bird!
Anthony Moore
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Nicholas Kelly
No Islam does not require Christianity to have existed.
Jesus simply gets a mention or two.
Actually, can be disputed if Christianity has more influence from Zoroatrism from Persia (Iranian/Aryan area per excelente) or Judeah, given Jesus refused all the local Jewish teachings.
Jonathan James
Sorry, I'm not a kike.
Robert Torres
so he was a bad Jew still a Jew you faggot faggots
Julian Roberts
Are you arguing that we shouldn't take the bible literally because that contradicts your statement that if it's not in the book then it's not Christianity.
Does the bible say who should offer these interpretations and which interpretations are correct? If not then you are not following Christianity.
Your words.
Matthew Baker
Want to guess how I know you have never read the eddas?
Sage for slide thread full of people talking about things they know nothing about and a profound lack of evidence for claims slung around by everyone.
Henry Scott
The fuck? Crusades reclaimed Iberian Peninsula as Christian, and gave Mediterranean Ocean Christian and European domination (it was dominated by muslim raiders before). Also battle of Lepanto prevented Ottomans from gaining more ground in Europe and Mediterranean.
Eastern Roman Empire is a loooong case study.. if only to see why it lasted 1000 years more than its Western Counterpart. Also Crusades started at the request of Byzantine Prince.
Jumping to conclusions like that is retarded and shows you as either a Useful Idiot or a Shill.
You still have much Ethnomasochism in you. Unless I'm talking to a sandnigger.
Aiden Allen
Good Goy. Attack the biggest defier of Judaism in History, hehe, that's very Aryan.
Dylan Brown
Oh shit I'm sorry, I meant the 4th Crusade, just google the sacking of Constantinople, they weakened the city enourmously.
James Barnes
you don't know the first thing about what Aryan means faggot kike-lover Jesus is and always will be a dirty Jew not an Aryan you faggot cuck
Sebastian Peterson
What?
Samuel Adams
oh, my bad, I didnt realize thats what you were going for.
To answer, youre still an idiot. If the bible doesnt say "cuck all your white women" (hint: it doesnt, and adultery is strictly forbidden) then guess what? any christian doing that as part of their faith is…get this, not a true christian.
which has no issue along side "dont literally start snipping at your heart, because you arent stupid enough to take clear fucking metaphor in a poem too literally"
Noah Thomas
Oh, and one more thing, if people really think christianity was only pozzed recently, they are terribly wrong. I highly ecommend christians on this board to read up on Bernard Hoffman and Ian mathias, crazy jews using christianity to try to take over europe in the middle-ages. The LITERALY took over the city of munster and declared its citizens the new israelites, and the region of munster the new Kingdom of Zion.
Do you think this is all a joke, do you really believe people criticize christianity on Holla Forums just to sound edgy? Do some research and find it out for yourself.
Gavin Taylor
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Zachary Wilson
Nice digits.
No, but it's confusing when one post says Christianity bad because too patient and tolerant of its opponents, and the other says Christianity bad because too powerful and overwhelming of its opponents.
There's the cognitive dissonance in every D&C thread on Christianity and you idiots fall for it everytime.
4th Crusade was after the mass killing of Knights Templar, the Crusader Elite, and they were replaced by.. Venitian Merchants, who had secret deals with the Seljuks (Turks) for the Silk road. They gave 0 fucks on faith, just on profit, and sacking Constantinople gave more money.
Hunter Williams
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Josiah Peterson
mp4?
We are talking about wwii gGermany here kid.
Levi Lee
Religion is a language of faith. All religions are capable of expressing truths that one could not manage without them. Whatever you think of Christendom, you surely realise that it's better than its current competition, which is socialism and scientism.
If you're not currently building alternative faith infrastructure IRL by starting communities, attending regular services, donating, etc, then you have no place criticising people for following the Christian faith. You're like someone criticising a starving cowherd for not following a vegan diet. His only options are milk and blood, or death. So go fuck yourself, basement dweller, your basement LARPing means nothing and if you don't recognise that then you have never truly valued anything.
Cooper White
Exactly, so much for Crusades being this saviors of Europe. It was all kike politics, nothing was done exclusively in the interest of Europeans. And those who did, like Vlad Tepes, were demonised by the Church.
Jace Long
Hitler was never killed for being against Jews. Only in post mortem propaganda character assassination.
He suicided or escaped for having lost the war and failing in his ambitions. He suceeded in reviving Germany, but his foreign policy failed utterly.
Ryan Cruz
I can do the same jewboy.
Jackson Carter
the best outcome is all the Christians are slaughtered by Muslims who are slaughtered by Jews who will be slaughtered by Nazis
Julian Ramirez
Until the 3rd Crusade everything happened Piously, even if with bloodshed.
4th Crusade was a disaster, no one denies that.
But user, there were 8 Crusades, just because the 4th was overtaken by Venitians who colaborated with Ottomans, does it invalidate the other 7?
Wyatt Jones
Doesn't the whole ideology of might make right hold up here and show that Jews and Christians are right because they're able to subjugate the entire world to their belief.
Brayden Cook
"Anyone who ever lost a war, no matter how they lost it, is weak and baaaaad! Don't attempt to emulate them, goy!"
Kevin Cox
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Grayson Rogers
Lying your way into positions of power is not might, its trickery, and will be dealt with brutaly.
Henry Davis
How do you know it doesn't? Are you taking your reading literally or are you basing your claims on the interpretation of another?
If basing claims on interpretations of another how do you know that is the correct interpretation? Does the bible say so? If not then how can you claim it as a Christian interpretation?
How do you know what to take figuratively and what to take literally? Is that information in the bible or is that an interpretation?
Is the bible the book where you decide how you want to interpret it? If so then what truth value does it have? How is something other than a book of jewish fables Europeans adopted as their own.
Feeding the meme offspring of others seems pretty cucky to me.
David Bailey
True. All Classical Antiquity was a Mediterranean thing.
Luke Williams
Pot, kettle meet user.
Charles Price
crusades were a defense against muds, and the catalyst was self preservasion, not cuckstianity.
Liam Sanders
-you
Adrian Mitchell
Oh user, if only things were so simple…
Kevin Edwards
That was dead on, OP
Christianity is a mental virus from the deserts of Arabia.
There was no failure in German foreign policy. The Rothschilds used the globalist Allied powers to destroy the German state because they had dared to take hold of their own banking and political systems. He defied the Judeo-Christian world order and was hunted to the ends of the Earth for it.
James King
fuck off faggot all the Semitic abrahamic faiths will be purged from the planet you cockgobbling asshole
Dominic Garcia
It's a slow process but Judeo religions are gaining ground in Asia
Subversion is just intellect and cunning, if the so called superior whitemen were better than Jews then why can't they even discern
Holla Forums is dumb as fuck these days
Jace Hill
There is a negative correlation between occurency of going into the woods and clinical depression. People who go into the woods are less likely to become clinically depressed.
Of course doctors will never talk about this, because "muh cosmopolitanism". Remember goyim. Fuck nature and fuck the roots of life. Fuck everything that makes us human and reminded of mortality. Watch more animes and cartoons!
Camden Jenkins
He never defied the Christian world order. Give me the "battle for Vatican" please.
Have you forgotten Fascism protected Christianity and that Italy was part of the Axis?
His foreign policy failed. Regardleess if his goals were good or bad, he lost the war.
Or do you deny Natsoc germany lost WWII?
Kayden Morales
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Juan Reyes
Yeah I'm sure all of his speeches calling out the international jewry and Nuremberg laws were fake. Thanks for proving you're just pulling shit out of your ass.
Why didn't the Crusades fought for the interest of European peoples as a whole? Why didn't these Crusades started right after the shitskins started to conquer Europe? Why didn't they help Spain? Why didn't they even help the Balkans when they were getting overrun by them until the shitskins hordes came to Vienna? Why was Vlad Tepes considered to be heretic and demonised? It was all kike politics, working for the interests of merchants and Christian elite.
Brandon Sullivan
no
Asher Campbell
Triggered much, little boy? Read
again.
UNLESS YOU ARE BUILDING A REAL-WORLD COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE A NEW-AGER.
Understand?
Thomas Stewart
You are a retard aren't you? I'm calling you out for doing the exact same thing you are calling other peoples idiots for and you just plug your ears and pretend I'm some shill with a host of VPNs with absolutely nothing to lead you to believe such except that I hurt your personal fee-fees. You're a real upstanding member of this community.
Xavier Peterson
He was demonised by the Pope, the Catholic Church called him heretic and refused to help him even when he said he'll convert to Catholicism.
John Green
Pagan who was critisizing christianity here.
But i'am gona be fair, the 4th crusade did NOT represent the spirit or objective of the crusades, it was a pozzed adventure instigated by venetian jews. I won't pin that one on the christians. The army itself was composed mostly of mercenaries, and no sane christian would sack the very heart of eastern christianity. The fourth crusade was a plot developed by greedy venetians, a medieval version of pope francis the sellout, and infiltrated jews.
Ian Brooks
fucking faggot there's no room for Semitic abrahamic faith to exist
Gavin Sullivan
Paganism is really gay too though. I think Hitler had the right idea regarding religion, which is use a non-cucked non-Jewish flavor of Christianity to win the favor of the public and eventually replace the peoples main philosophy with National Socialism and natural laws and shit.
Andrew Walker
"Yeah guys! Jews are the REAL untermensch! We should all want to be as 'cunning' as the dirty kikes that use that cunning to bleed us dry! Might makes right! Might makes right! Might makes right! It doesn't matter that none of these jews are particularly physically strong. It doesn't matter that they're completely unbalanced on the three things that makes a great people. Why worry about physical strength and creativity when you can just KIKE your way into power! Kek, stupid goyim!"
Zachary Morris
Shit or get off the pot, child. Put up or shut up. It's awfully semitic of you to only destroy, while creating nothing.
Matthew Jenkins
Strawman. I'm saying Hitler had to suicide or escape because USSR was coming to loot and pillage everything.
Had he won the war, his speeches against international jewry would be accepted as very good.
They did. Battle of Lepanto, reconquer of Iberian Peninsula, reconquer of mediterranean Ocean.
Still too much in post-roman colapse.
Also organizing a Crusade with enough people joining is extremely hard. It's unleashing demons to prevent a greater evil basically.
Political Game of Thrones. Today in Romenia he is seen as a Hero of the People.
There is much worse than Vlad. Knights Templars, Crusader Elite, were considered as much worse than heretics.
Landon Campbell
This is the sort of denial i was talking about eralier.
Go read some fucking history, man, the church cracked down and humiliated vlad as if he was satan himself, on behalf of ottoman gold.
Nathaniel James
Sedevacantism, radical eastern orthodoxy, or non-faggot paganism. These are your choices.
Leo Scott
What are you creating?
Wyatt Roberts
what are you babbling about every last stinking kike, Christkike and hadjikike had to be killed
Luke Miller
The rest of Crusades were pretty much the same shit. Europe was falling apart while Europeans were used as cannon fodder to fight in the desert in the name of their Jew God. If Crusades were successful and worked in the interests of European peoples, parts of Europe wouldn't get conquered and occupied by shitskins. It's as simple at that.
Lucas Rogers
If you worship the ancestors of Jews don't cry when they continuously take control of your churches and Nations!
This is the future you chose Christcucks
Jordan Lopez
WEW LAD FUCK OFF
David Adams
If you want to understand the Church without getting confused 200 times you need to take the Lucifer/Satan story seriously.
Do you think there would be no Satan spies infiltrated in Vatican?
Parker Hughes
I'm sustaining. I'm not the Thor-worshipper here
And then you die and your special secret blend of LARPy beliefs die with you
The kikes were protected by local uprisings by being sent from country to country, aided by the church and degenerate aristocracy. Christcucks like to show infographics about how Jews were tossed out from one christian european country after another.
What they don't focus on is that it's the same countries over and over and over. When people get tired of swindles and blood libels in England, all the Jews flee to Germany. 100 years later when all the local Germans are fed up, they flee back to England.
Christcucks would have you believe that the church and the (by then) degenerate aristocracy didn't know and understand what was going on. But isn't it much more likely that they were actively protecting the Jews? After all, they did business with them, gave them their positions, even interbred with them. Look at some oldenburgs on historical paintings. They look semitic as fuck.
The obvious conclusion for any rational person is that christcuckery is a Jewish psy-op and cultural war against Europeans. The Jews took over Rome after the "conquest" of Judea (coincidentally the same time as for the first time you started seeing non-Roman senators and caesars) and spent all it's resources on their cultural genocidal program against Europe.
Wake up christcucks.
Ryder Cox
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Levi Sanchez
Is that newspeak for doing nothing? Slaves sustain.
Xavier Robinson
You lost the crusades. Your goal was to capture Israel for Europeans. But in the end you just race mixed half the fucking continent. You also created Islam
Ian Adams
While this may be true in parts, i'am gona have to disagree in regards to the first crusade. If you study that year, and what eventualy led to the first crusade, you will quickly realize it was their version of our own current year, there were a LOT of happenings before they launched the first crusade, and it was a legit cause. The other ones, as you said, were not so much legitimate as they were a "hey, i'am a second son and stand to inherit nothing here, migh as well go crusading and try to grab some land while "doing gods work"
Aiden Green
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Kevin Ross
So you want your children to throw out your dumb LARPy "beliefs" (meaningless ideations) and heroically create something totally contrary? Just as well, then.
I'm out, tiny brain man, enjoy your rage and confusion as the world passes you by
Owen Kelly
Your church is the enemy
Joshua Carter
because went to school and learned how the tell the difference between literal and figurative.
are you autistic or something? I mean that genuinely, the way you talk about it makes you seem like you are on the spectrum.
Jaxon Nelson
Should I quote your post? You said that Hitler being against kikes is all post mortem propaganda. So than we agree, Crusades were not exclusively in the interest of European people.
And when was that, after hunderds of years after they got fucked by shitskins? And Battle of Lepanto has little to nothing to do with Crusades, the same goes for reconquista of Iberian Peninsula. You could argue it was inspired by the Crusades but that's about it.
Nicholas Hughes
You don't even know my beliefs. I'd rather my children be capable of dropping cancerous beliefs rather than sustaining them. I'm smart enough to know that I'm capable of being wrong.
Brandon Cooper
My god is your salvation, serve no earthly church.
Samuel Martinez
seriously, out of all the stupid anti christian memes, this is the dumbest and most easily refuted, no idea how people accept this
additionally, your image is missing a picture for the UK.
Julian Sanders
Everything he said.
Grayson Bell
Well yeah, that 'current year' shit wouldn't happen without Christianity in the first place. Check out how Crusades started, they scared people in believing that world is going to end and that they need to go to the (((holy))) lands to repent.
Easton Sanchez
(((they))) and their useful idiots will use any lie to bash christianity
Evan Morris
So you're using the interpretation of someone else? Or you're interpreting it yourself based on how you were taught to interpret things by someone else? Is that in the bible? How do you know you're using the correct mental tools to interpret what you read?
You say: "Ah, this can't be literal because I was taught so, thus I must interpret."
But how do you know what you were taught was correct? More importantly, how do you know your are capable of actually interpreting the figurative correctly?
I'm just following your words here. It seems you've never bothered to parse what you belief and how you've come to believe it..
Robert Hughes
Catholic monks taught niggers and they created Islam
Carson Brooks
Islam wasn't created by niggers you fucking nigger
Elijah Bell
I know all this, and it saddens me when christians on Holla Forums simply ignore important information.
I find it amazing how can they connect the dots on, say, 9/11, but remain willfuly ignorant and completely oblivious of the events wich took place in rome and europe in regards to how judaism and christianity were obviously pozzed and interconnected from the very fucking beggining.
And when you say this, they just get angry and call you a shill, they think we are trying to minimize things like christian art, or their contributions to science and philosophy. They are getting it all wrong. Its not about wheter we like or dislike christianity, we are not trying to deny it had a beautiful place in history, it obviuously did, thats a fact.
But christianity being a pozzed jewish cult is ALSO a fact, thats the whole fucking point of it
Wyatt Martin
Crusades didn't fail, if you see objective as making a counter-force to Muslim expansion in Europe and West.
4th Crusade did fail though.
Andrew Martin
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Jacob Foster
I'm not kidding when I say this. But I want that to be the last image I see when I die.
Xavier Russell
You realize Useful Idiots were often people made feel that they were "Intellectuals", right?
Lincoln James
secularism is a Christian value… so is celebrating weakness. Christianity was only Europe establish religion for 500yrs really, because it took 1500 to conquer every other faith. In 500 years it has lead to Christian-Communism. And you can't see how that makes sense?
Henry Clark
Yes, and War is Peace Freedom is Slavery
Brandon Fisher
jesus christ and when I thought you cant get anymore retarded
Ryan Thomas
Faggot Christians extend the "virtue" of ecumenism (a heresy) to everyone except white pagans.
Faggot Christians would rather let a nigger Christian fuck their daughter than a white pagan
Jace Reed
Christianity brings people of all Nations and races together under one brotherhood. That's what the "empire" was for.
Christopher Russell
"just fuck a nigger it's fine"
Jacob Gray
That picture is stupid as fuck, Those regions were all meditterenean/celtic a.k.a. white before the major invasions in the dark and middle ages drastically changed the ethnicities of the region. Greece, modern day Turkey, Syria, Northern Egypt were all white in 300 ad.
Nathaniel Butler
It's funny how they miss the point that it's not "division" when you were never welcome in europe in the first place. Also every time they move the goalposts by pointing at another sect of their cult with slightly different rules, is that not D&C among their own religion? Seems christkikes can't even stop backstabbing and shit talking each other to focus their hatred on the white man, lucky us.
Parker Sullivan
both claims are false friendo. pagan is as degenerate and destructive as a christian nigger. Christianity is only one of many traits of a white man.
Caleb Powell
Christianity made Lenin and Stalin a Saint.
Thomas Rodriguez
A desert religion created from the jewish religion is one of the traits of a white man
Logan Allen
It is. Haven't you watched TGSNT? No basic redpills? Hitler was about ridding Germany of Communists, defeatists, and Jews aswell, but main objective was to recover lost territories and influence that happened after WWI.
Demonizing him as the 6 million jews man is communist propaganda.
No we don't, Crusade =/= classification of heretic, the Crusading Elite due to French King Philip the Fair got wiped out.
Learn Christianity terms, you're saying 4+4= 13
Then why is Secular Atheist Euphoric West getting overrun by shitskins and USA can't win in Iraq or Afghanistan?
Why do you ignore that nowadays performance is much lower than Christianity back then?
Disinfo or retarded. Reconquista of Iberian Peninsula had Crusaders, Knights Templars, Knights Hospitallers, Knights of Santiago, Knights of Calatrava, and all other kind of religious military orders that spearheaded the Crusades.
Battle of Lepanto followed the Pope call to arms against Islam aswell.
Nathaniel Thomas
You missed the entire rest of the map.
Ryan Bell
And there's the anti white holier than thou Christcuckery that always rears its ugly head.
Matthew Martin
this is you. open any history book and youll see first christians were white. while pagans divided europe more effectively than any other kike could only dream of.
Adrian Johnson
Useful Idiots will believe in this.
Hunter Ramirez
I'm not even christian and you used your implication texts wrong you retarded faggot. I'm saying those regions that are listed as "shit skins" are wrong, the region was shit skins unitl the seljuk invasions.
Angel Moore
I'm getting tired on babysitting fedoras. Time to rev up my fedora atheist folder
Caleb Green
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Josiah Thompson
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Hudson Collins
Are you seriously trying to imply that the US didn't complete its intended goals in the middle east? Have you seen Europe lately?
Bentley Diaz
The majority of US military is Christian. It doesn't matter what Obama says. It's a Christian war losing because it wants to lose you fucking idiot. The Jews who you worship are creating the terrorists and the Christians are obsessed with caring about the fucking middle east!
The first invasion Western Europe ever lost to shitskins was Christian. And Christian values are SJW values but in a future time when technology has changed reality
Isaac Thomas
I see you are a bit slow so let me repeat that in a simpler form white christian > > > > white faggot, white sjw, white larper niggers etc. you are all race and culture traitors.
Luis Ortiz
Not an argument
Leo Scott
this whole thread is bullshit.
Blake Rivera
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Austin Long
Christians call it Satan, muslims call it Shaytan.
I call it bullshit.
Andrew Jenkins
"Any culture but your own culture!" "Only through worshiping a Semite can man be virtuous!"
Race traitors are truly disgusting
Jonathan Ward
Christcuck calling people race traitors? Oh my…
Evan James
Haha, you mean Christian marriage? That's what gave us millions of low IQ whites and why the mob rules while the Jew rules the mob. Christianity is the greatest dis-eugenics experiment in history.
Xavier Wood
Further, it was christians that came to pagan europe and divided you fucking mongrel.
Jackson Russell
ah yes, using another kike meme
Andrew Hernandez
HAHAHAHAHAHHA are you cuckedfilth by any chance?
Joseph Lee
Do you even have evidence he's a kike?
Jesus is the original kike meme.
Luke Torres
Yes. It got full of Syrians and Rapefugees. Was that USA goal when invading Afghanistan?
USA military serves a Secular Government. The Higher Ups is for all effects, secular.
Christian Nguyen
seriously xDDD people were sick of constant pagan warring and faggotry and every village worshipped different faggot made up god. thats why they so easily accepted religion preaching peace and cooperation between people.
Gavin Cook
Or not seriously… since Satan was a Catholic invention and the word just means any "adversary".
Lucas Allen
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Gavin Sanders
I give up. You guys eat up whatever crap your jewish masters put on the plate.
Spamming the words "kike" and "holohoax" didn't change that.
Levi Green
so do you :)
Jeremiah Johnson
Christianity is a secular government
Blake Phillips
Not an argument
Logan Morris
first sentence is : my mother was jewish
Isaac Fisher
Uhh literally no one but the EU wants a united Europe.
William Ward
Please tell me about the flood.
Remember kids, black metal is just music, nothing more.
Camden Fisher
I get it, christians are the only ones to give your angsts attention.
A picture of world leaders visiting a Protestant Church isn't a good argument on attacking Catholicism you know.
Jayden Morgan
Yes, you need to go look up the difference between a stated goal and an intended goal. Why do you think we are funding ISIS too retard? That isn't something you will hear MSM proclaim from the rooftops but they are still doing it. Your religion is blinding you to the genocide of your race.
Jacob Roberts
Rabbi, why are you forgetting kitos war again?
Ethan Hall
Give up, baby man. You worship little Jewish fairytales, you can't teach us anything real. Satan became all the Gods is Europe and the past. the word "adversary" became "Adversary!". Lucifer is a Roman planet/god
Xavier Bell
noice. saved
Evan Johnson
Catholicism isn't even a consideration anymore. It's just pure Marxism now.
Charles Bailey
So you admit your secular government had as a plan to flood europe with shitkins?
:)
Satan is a word amongst several ones. Story is that one of the top Archangels tried to de-throne God, and was banished.
He has many names asides from Satan and Lucifer. Even has a purely numerical one (easy to guess)
Parker Ward
Toppest of keks OP.
Ryder Flores
Only anti-Catholic post I have to give agreement. I'll give you that one.
Noah Williams
^^^
Matthew Morris
aaand here we go.
Zachary Martin
Did I ever say they didn't? Why don't you check IDs retard.
Michael Price
Yes, yes they are.
Jordan Reed
So christianity is bad because europe got muslim-free and secularism is good because europe now has ever growing islam?
either a sandnigger or a kike.
If the latter, you were abandoned by YHWH in 160 AD and became basically golems. That's why the spitefulness is insiatiable.
Cameron Gonzalez
ITT:christkikes have no arguments besides Thus confirming that christkikes are anti-white desert dwellers with the destruction of europe as the goal of their religion.
Carter Brooks
Agreed. But Socrates was a homosexual pedosodomite so we did well. t. Greek
Charles Barnes
Yeah: Odin Hitler Zues Indra Buddha Anu Morgana Venus/Lucifer Freya Anyone who disagrees with you.
John Thomas
No, we simply get attacks that cannibalize each other.
People attack Christianity on totally opposite claims. Some say it's too weak and undisciplined. Others say it's too strong and Imperialistic in terms of rule of the strongest.
When you get confronted by this 2 self cannibalizing opinions at the same time, what do you do?
Isn't it obvious attacking Christianity is a wet dream of the kikes since 160 AD?
Here I thought we had some SS material, but it's all Useful Idiots who learned edgy buzzwords.
Aiden Wright
There is a permanent ongoing battle between Holla Forums and the /christian/ diaspora. Every thread that can be in any way imagined, however slight, to somehow touch the topic of christianity becomes this discussion. Every time.
If you didn't know that you're pretty new.
But it happens for a reason. Christians want to put things back to where the semites ruled by degenerate god-kings backed by propaganda instead of false democracy backed by propaganda.
They somehow feel this time around it won't end up like it did the last time their semitic dogma had any clout. It's sort of a waste of time, because everyone with half a brain understands we can't go back, and shouldn't.
But the discussion is important to highlight things for newfags so they don't get suckered into the cult.
Benjamin Torres
Mixing kikes with christians… tell that to Luther or La Santisima Inquisicion.
Charles Cruz
If you've ever said "we're the true Jews!" Youuuu might be a cuck!
If you've ever said "I worship the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jesus Christ." Youuuuuu might be a cuck!
If you've ever said "The kingdom of God is not if this earth!" Youuuuuuuu might be a cuck.
If you've ever described a character from the bible as your personal hero, well, youuuuuuuuuu might be a cuck!
Lucas Morgan
Nope. Lucifer is a SINGLE entity. One fallen Archangel.
Do I need to explain how singular and plural work?
Nathan Carter
Your nose chaim, i can see it.
Ayden Carter
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Jeremiah Richardson
That's rich coming from a man who worships a Jew.
Hunter Brown
Neither is that .
Nathaniel Gonzalez
You were utterly abandoned in 160 AD anyway. You broke the covenant.
All you're doing won't bring YHWH favoritism back.
Mason Foster
"We have to use the merchant meme against these pesky goyim that are promoting racial hatred against our precious theological doctrine. We need to make it look like its the jews that are promoting paganism because only that delusion will bring them closer to Abraham!. This is a game of lies and we will win the goyim! As always! He He He"
Colton Allen
See this please:
Next time check id, you are being paid for this, its your duty.
Oliver Clark
We should focus on Jewish agents rather than on the Zerg rush of atheists (if there are heathens, prolly 0.2% of the anti-christianity posters)
Jason Foster
There is no archangels, there is no fallen ones, trhere is no sata, its JEWISH BULLSHIT.
Do i need to explain how LIES work?
Andrew Peterson
No one has said this in hundreds of years besides liberals who think that christcuckism is stuck a few thousand years in the past and is still a death cult, they just care about the poor muslims that were killed by one of their branches of their own death cult instead of the pagans. Now it's a suicide cult, great shift.
Carter Peterson
No you d&c faggot, I'm just intelligent enough to have actually read the bible and studied Christianity before forming an opinion on it.
This thread is bullshit d&c b&.
The fact OP literally used the Kangz angle just makes my sides go into orbit
Matthew Wilson
He said nothing about niggers my friend, but either way, you are fucking stupid if you really think setting your bloodline back 8 generations for white washing with a decent person is objectively worse than handing your offspring to the amazing atheist jus't because he's white.
Kayden Jenkins
Actually it is, but you didn't read finish reading it because it blows you the fuck out and you started getting red in the face.
Mason Lee
>>>Holla Forums
Nicholas Richardson
You too.
Aaron Morgan
Ok, so you're in this to promote atheistm and dawkins.
I don't give a shit about your lack of belief. It does not make you a special snowflake. You will die confused and alone.
Pagans would rather have their daughter marry a black totem follower than a white christian
Brody Morgan
lol
Jose James
Christucks really showing they are anti-whites ITT, good shit
Wyatt Wood
Hello leftypol collaborator.
Benjamin Long
What if the rush is filled with agents? Like this:
Jacob Walker
You'll die with a mullato spawn, jokes on you.
Michael Morales
Kek pic related, christians are the premier cucks
Owen Long
Here's the deal. Copypaste your strawman copypasta so I can debunk your "arguments" one by one instead of trying to fracture a shitty screencap.
I am pretty sure your agency has provided that in .txt form too, Schlomo.
Andrew Fisher
They are, but leading the agents are Jews.
Ignore the atheists and de-moralize the kikes on how and why G.D abandoned them due to their crime of breaking the Covenant.
Thomas Hughes
christcuckism = communism
Charles Brooks
Maybe the fact that 90% of posts in every christcuck thread ever since your raid began is negative comments about your cuckery means that Holla Forums is not /christian/.
At least, it would mean that if we are all shills, then 90% of Holla Forums are shills, so perhaps you would be better of finding some other place to spread the good word regardless.
Maybe to some of those billion people who follow pic related. They could need some deus vult updates I think.
Noah Wright
Reported for intl.
Bentley Parker
Your white daughter will fuck a nigger to rebel against your pro white paganism, jokes on you.
Angel Hernandez
hahaha what the fuck
Kevin Morgan
sage
Aiden Martinez
Nope, you lose, next.
Easton Reyes
WTF??? You are really clueless.
Here is 47
He is saying that even Gentiles greet their brothers. It is hardly a dig at Jews, it is an observation that even Gentiles do that, so that his followers shouldn't be proud of it.
Brody James
Are you president of Stephan fan club?
Bentley Roberts
Ohh, were you perhaps… reported for intl?
Luis Morris
Yes. Fedoras are actually that euphoric.
Luke Jenkins
reported for intl
Noah Rodriguez
nice try schlomo
Liam Adams
Face it, with or without electric jew you have 0 guarantees of whatever your daughter will do to rebel against your ideals.
Matthew Martin
Hi, intl.
Nathaniel Bell
Holla Forums tier of "argument"
Owen Martin
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Joseph Wright
You realize Bible doesn't even mention Blacks, do you?
Leo Young
REMINDER: FILTER SHILL SPAMMERS
no reply to sage spammers as the goal for them is to bumplock the thread
Asher Johnson
Why would they have any reason to think these things? Just because it's ingrained in every area of your life doesn't mean people can't exist outside of it Where do you think that shit came from? Commies just adopted the playbook christcucks wrote thousands of years ago.
Hudson Russell
We're at limit in 10 posts, who cares at this point.
Thread summary:
Christcucks worship kike on stick, and suck semite dick.
Hm, so you have to admit you have no guarantee you won't have black grandchildren should your daughter revolt against your white paganism.
Alright, that's all I needed to know.
Anthony Hall
Uh, wow. I didn't know they had increased the limit.
Implying there is anything wrong with that.
2d obsessions are an odd fetish, but if that works for some guys who can't get girlfriends, there are no effects on race.
Yeah, that's a real social issue if it leads to offspring. We don't want white nations looking like neighborhoods in Puerto Rico and Brazil.
Samuel Hughes
You're clearly having a totally different conversation then I am. Not everyone who replies to you is attacking your dying religion. Go back and read my posts then chastise yourself for being stupid.
Austin Campbell
PISSTIANS ARE FOLLOWING THE YID ON THE STICK PERIOD
Brandon Anderson
I have a better sum up: useful idiots and kike shills got btfo and had no consistency and were shown white people will defend their culture, even on Holla Forums
Brody Perez
You slaughtered your mudslime brethren as well, you both worship the exact same god, why would anything stop your death cult? After all the goal is confirmed to be destruction of all whites and European societies. Also lenin said it best
Luke Bailey
Hehe, good one.
Evan Price
Judaism is a museum religion. A bunch of people in denial about the fact that G.D abandoned them, and best they can do about that is go the wall of lamentations.